This happened in 1937, prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec 7,1941. Japan attacked Nanjing, China, and Japan had borrowed so much from the Chinese: culture, religion, architecture, writing, government. Many Chinese were ruthlessly killed and the women raped when Nanjing was invaded. And the Japanese have never apologized to China for the invasion. Japanese history books do not go into detail about the brutality of the Japanese army when they invaded and conquered Southeast Asia. It is no wonder that the younger Japanese people are so clueless as to the brutality of their ancestors. Thank you for mentioning: The Rape of Nanjing" which also happens to be a great book ( which the Japanese say is a fabrication).
I guess we forget the American war on the Philippines. All sides commit atrocities. Of course you only here of the enemy ones. The only one i hold beyond the others is the eating of P.O.W.s live and dead for symbolic reasons not starvation. Japan did that on certain islands with captured pilots. That is just not explainable as a horror of war of a modern people.
Amen! Now strongest of Pacific Allies. We steamed with the Japanese Navy. We were impresses with their professionalism durning night operations underway replenishment. Impressive. Kempai Kempai Kempai! Nippon.
All IJN carriers had red disk painted on their flight decks during Midway because of an incident at Coral Sea, which was not accurately depicted here, although they discontinued painting the red disk on the flight deck after Midway. They realized it actually helped US dive bomber to aim effectively when diving.
@@anarchyandempires5452 it would've been awkward if Yorktown had let them. Imagine that. Japanese pilots: Man, what a day. Guess we'll go to the bridge to rep- *sees American bridge staff* Nani?!
This is actually a surprisingly good movie. Took a while to find an English subbed version but I managed to watch the whole thing. Quite well done, would recommend.
@Edward Smith wodfix... It's a free movie app.. and it's got everything including shows n older movies as well as movies that are still in theatres.. and yes this movie as well, with subtitles. I just looked it up for y'all, thought I could help. Enjoy 😊
+一山田 I dont know why you are so upset. We saved the Japanese people living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki millions of Yen a year on their electric bill by making them glow in the dark.
+Chau Anderson what I mean is that they are already hopeless under that situation. what they can do is to keep whirling around to create confusion to american bombers. but you know, the velocity is terribly slow compared with those birds in the air.
The acting and directing is quite good. I cannot say whether it is an accurate portrayal of events, but the film does a great job of conveying the gravity and seriousness of the events. You can see it all over the actors' faces and in the tone of voice (even if you do not speak Japanese.) When the Admiral looks out and sees the ships burning, he seems to realize that Japan has lost the war and that his entire way of life may come to an end.
I read recently that that whole story about hesitating to use torpedoes or refueling was a hoax made up by some Japanese officer prisoner of war trying to cover up his own mistakes. It wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
This movie is for the most part accurate However some inaccuracies have been pointed out by people like 5 Yamato class battleships were seen (none were present in this battle), the flak being too thick and too frequent (Japanese got alot of AA but they suck ass) and 2 historical pilots were switched place
The interesting thing about the battle of midway was that when it was concluded, the IJN advantage in carriers was reduced to a rough parity with the USN. IJN lost 4, USN lost 1. Then, neither side had enough carriers for offensive operations in the pacific. Thus, the IJN offensives were halted and a stalemate was achieved. Worst outcome for Japan because the US shipbuilding and industry capacity was a huge advantage as Adm. Yamamoto had predicted. Another interesting fact is that the american carriers carried more planes than Japan's carriers did therefore 2 american carriers had the equivalent aircraft of roughly 3 IJN carriers. So that factors in as well in determining what "parity" was.
It ironic that The Japanese keep bombing the Combat ships in Pearl Harbour, However they ONE HUGE mistake, they never bomb the Fuel Depots that was located next door.
"Then, neither side had enough carriers for offensive operations in the pacific" Not true as in August, three months later, the Americans pushed, and won, at Guadalcanal.
Well, most of the CV players are *lonely* on the back, isn't it? (Dunno about you guys, so i'm sorry for offense). Which make it vulnureable to enemy ship/aircraft attack. In this situation, however, the 4 carrier were protected in their Battle Group. If it was a game, the AAA should be good enough to take all of 'em-Or... not?
Barri 2410 In wows CVs can defend themselves against air attack with good enoughAA and fighters (unless the enemy CV don’t care about losing their planes afterward) and if CV go with the team they’ll most likely get torpedoes or shot to death.
@@firecracker739 well, no. Many CVs has weak AAA, so they need Both their Fighters and Allied ship AAA so the enemy Bombers couldn't get through to attack. That's why no CV in real life ever go alone, they need Escorts to protect them from Attack (Air, Surface, Underwater) Also, if you want to keep your friendly CV alive for the rest of the battle, *protect them* (
@@norrisphillips4360code breaking was irrelevant for Midway. As stated, let’s say the IJN decided to approach with surface ships up front and the carriers were behind. So go ahead and explain what the US would do. They have 8 cruisers with 15 destroyers plus their 3 carriers. The IJN is approaching in various division groups with 11 battleships, 22 cruisers and 64 destroyers. Plus they had 9 carriers available but obviously didn’t use them properly but let’s say they did.
One of my favorite movies is the old 1976 version of Midway with Charlton Heston, Pat Morita, Hal Holbrook, and the great Toshiro Mifune as admiral Yamamoto.
That movie from 1976 is great. They tried to be very accurate with sub-titles describing the names of the pilots, and the names of the ships on screen at the time. It was a little long viewing for its time, IMHO.
Like the movie too, but you can fast forward through the ridiculous (and utterly unnecessary) romantic subplot between Edward Albert and his Nissei girlfriend.
Yes, Hollywood puts modern haircuts on the pilots, throws lots of cliche jargon, and always has a guy yelling while firing a machine gun. This scene was far better than Hollywood movie drivel. That said, it would be great if Spielberg or Tom Hanks could produce a miniseries like Band of Brothers based on the book Miracle At Midway. Showing all the preparation and intel games that went on before the battle, the recon aspects of the battle, and the sheer luck (good and bad) involved in the battle.
The Greatest battle in American Naval history. One of the reasons I joined the US Navy. We all remember D-day but the battle of Midway was a far greater prize.
+MrKe4bss D-Day involved over 10,000 vessels on the allied side, not even counting aircraft and other forces. Midway involved fewer than fifty vessels on the American side, and fewer than 100 on the Japanese. Calling Midway greater than D-Day is like calling a puddle greater than an ocean.
+Merely Correct What naval vessels did the germans lose vs what naval vessels did the japanese lose? Notice that he said in Naval history, not just history.
+Merely Correct You judge a battle by numbers or by size? David defeated Goliath? The Allies could have survived a defeat during D-day 1944 but at Midway, June, 1942 the USA, standing alone, had to win. You fail to see the forest for trees. How sad.
I've read two different accounts of how Yamamoto reacted when informed of the losses at Midway: one was that he was playing cards and continued to play, never seemingly hearing about the losses; the other was he got up from his desk and went to a window and stared outside, never moving, for nearly an hour. Anyone know how he reacted to hearing the news? Thanks.
Midway is one of the most interesting naval actions in history from a leadership perspective. Both sides suffered equally from bad luck and poor timing, but neither flag admiral made any significant tactical errors.
Nagumo didn't make errors? Caught with his decks full of planes rearming and refueling was not bad luck it was more a series of bad decisions that led to him being caught with his pants down so to speak
@@wildwillie5408 It was bad luck and bad timing. Launching his torpedo-bombers against the American carriers with conventional bombs would have been a waste of time and effort and the combat air patrol did exactly what they were meant to: Intercepted the American torpedo-bomber attack.
HE bombs might not have sunk US carriers but they could've blown/burned up wooden flight decks. plus forcing the US carriers to defend themselves couldn't have hurt. from the japanese view that surely would have been preferrable to how it did play out@@jamesharding3459
And somehow the American bad luck ended up being their goodluck The Us submarine that was sent to aid the battle somehow found itself in the middle of the Japanese fleet, which got a destroyer on its tail as the fleet move away Despite living with no damage dealt, the submarine happen to be right in a lost US aircraft squadron trying to find the IJN fleet, seeing the destroyer (having given up on hunting the submarine) going back to their fleet, the squadron followed the destroyer and see the IJN fleet just as the last US squadron attack was finish, causing an almost instantaneous follow up that caught the Japanese completely unprepared
well I'll be damned. i never heard of this film, but I must say this is probably the most well made cinematic naval battle I've ever seen. the series the Pacific missed a golden opportunity to include these incredible moments like at Midway, Leyte, etc. fantastic filming.
***** But Japan is not fucked forever they fucked up with ww2 but as soon as the Imperial regime fell they started to rebuild and nowadays they are leaps and bounds ahead in several ways then the country that beat them. Rather sad actually.
+James Wil As iconic as that line is, there's only sketchy evidence actually tying it to Yamamoto (he believed that America - like any nation attacked by deception - would fight all the more viciously for it, certainly).
Stupid bastard, mention shit with context: The US was attempting to force Japan to negotiate over their recent invasions in Asia, the only reason Pear harbour happened was because the Japanese faked negotiation interest whilst decreasing the expectation of attack. Furthermore, the only report of a potential attack came from a dutch double agent that US wouldn't trust, especially over an ambassador with potential peace talks. Either you're too stupid to fact check shit or you have a vendetta against the Americans.
Yeah. At first the Japanese thought of that as something of a bluff, but when the Pacific War was close to an end... And the drop of the Atom bombs. Japan was written to be defeated the moment America developed those bombs, and when they spit at them on Hawaii.
One of Yamamoto's faults was that he tried to be on time and keep a precise schedule. We intercepted their code and knew where he would be, exactly. We took the best of the best pilots in a few P-38's and the rest is history. The bomber that was carrying him is still resting in the jungle
Thank you for posting this movie clip. I think it is important to see the opposing side of the conflict even though the war ultimately turned against Japan. It is beyond regrettable that so many young lives were lost during the conflict. Let us hope this sort of war never comes to pass again.
Every death on those ships was all the more regrettable thinking just how absurd a situation they were put in, told to essentially do an almost impossible task with what they had and then blindsided by the IJN's own foolhardy ego, poor doctrine, and sheer bad luck. And then they had the audacity to blame Nagumo for it. Yamamoto sat on his ass the entire battle expecting the enemy to just do whatever he needed but they blame the guy who not only KNEW had no correct choices to make but was trying his damnedest to succeed anyway? No wonder the IJN lost.
The Jspanese were fighting to stop the Chinese. The Germans wanted to stop the Russians. Had the USA not interfered, what would the world look like today? Would it be a better place?
Unfortunately Putin is busily following the footsteps of Hitler so we are all in danger of just such events 😞 Here's hoping his successor is less of a paranoid warmonger 🙂
Yamaguchi was correct.....until the American Task Force was discovered. Nagumo should have launched the planes armed as they were. Bombing a carrier is better than waiting too long. If he had launched The Second Wave as is, who knows what would have happened. No bombs laying all over the hangar decks. Fighters would have been in the air. Midway could have waited.
@@krismurphy7711 Also they had plenty of CAP int the air, problem was it was all chasing the remnants of the torpedo squadrons, or the ones from Midway.
For an accurate description, read 'Shattered Sword'. This book correctly shows that no Japanese carrier was ready to launch a strike when they were hit at 1020hrs, as the only aircraft on deck were replacement CAP. Constant attacks from Midway aircraft beforehand meant that the strike aircraft and munitions were still below deck waiting for a chance to spot the strike. This position is clearly supported by the official Japanese war history, and movies such as this and 'Midway' were simply created for both sides to say 'we were that close'. If you question this, then look at the official war photos taken immediately before the 1020hrs attack as the decks were in constant use taking care of fighter CAP needs - there were no aircraft being spotted on the carrier flight decks, and trying to spot armed aircraft on an carrier tearing donuts in the ocean is dangerous to say the least.
This movie only shows fighters on deck, the old idea that Japan was moments away from victory come party from the fact that SBD's saw aircraft launching during their dives, but these were just CAP fighters
I love the Japanese actors in these movie clips. I never saw this movie, but I can appreciate Salior's bravery even if is the enemy or a hostile regime. These Japanse actors did a very good job at portraying what took place within the IJN Task Force that day
Yeah. This is a wonderfully shot and acted sequence, but radically different from what we now know happened. Basically, it's the Fuchida version of the battle.
In fact, Lieutenant Nanko received the mission to attack the carrier immediately, tried to accept that proposal. But Chief Staff, the Kusaka Lieutenant Colonel Gerend of the Air had strived to attack the enemy carriers after accommodation of the First Attack Corps, so Nagumo from a torpedo adopted this opinion. Nagumo climbed this decision until after all. Originally, Nagumo was reflecting that fleet be in crisis due to the battle of the Indian Ocean, so agreed with Mr. Yamaguchi's opinion. The greatest failure of Lieutenant Nagumo is he tried to catch up the distance to the enemy carrier by the time of the transfiguration. This is very dangerous in Midway Island's insufficient attack effect, it will be a two front strategy against the enemy carrier and Midway Air Force. In fact, during the military transformation, the offensive from the land bomber and the destruction of the lightning strike launched from the aircraft carrier were being dropped to the water surface from the normal altitude. For that reason, despite the patrol aircraft around sky is none. It be vulnerably attacked by SBD dive bomber.
+BTL Y-Wing Maybe, but his inability to make a decision and stick with it ended up being worse than making the decision either way. None of the three carriers would have been fatally damaged if they hadn't been full of armed and fueled aircraft when they were hit. Nagumo failed to understand how critical it was NOT to leave his ships in that state any longer than absolutely necessary.
Oberstgreup Nagumo's dilemma developed slowly. First, Lt. Commander Tomonaga radioed that a second strike against Midway was needed. So, he heeded the warning that message contained: Midway was still a threat. This became too obvious over the next half hour or so, as Midway bomber groups made several attacks, including a high level bombing by USAAC B-17's, a glide bombing attack by USMC Dauntless dive bombers (led by Maj. Loftus Henderson, some of his pilots were barely out of flight school and were too green to attempt an actual dive bombing), and another dive bombing attack by USMC SB2U Vindicators. All failed to even score a single hit. As the switch from torpedoes to contact bombs neared half completion, a scout plane radioed a contact with a U.S. Navy surface fleet of "10 ships." Nagumo ordered the scout plane to ascertain ship types, and the scout answered moments later that the American surface fleet was "accompanied by what appears to be a Yorktown class aircraft carrier." Nagumo then ordered his aircraft rearming halted and switch back to torpedoes, Midway would have to wait. While this confusion was going on, admiral Yamaguchi suggested sending off the strike force however they were armed. In the meantime, American air attacks continued, this time torpedo planes; which were slaughtered by the zero fighters. After the last American torpedo attack, Nagumo thought of doing as Yamaguchi suggested, but it almost immediately became unfeasible. His strike planes from Midway were returning and reporting low on fuel, as were his defensive air wings. This is when he ordered his aircraft taken below for rearming and changed course to close distance with the U.S. carrier group (believed to be the Yorktown's). His plane service crews were now disregarding safety regulations and haphazardly leaving ordinance wherever on the flight deck and in the hangars it was out of the way, which contributed to the dangerous situation. Honestly, I'm not sure what else Nagumo could have done with the information he received when he received it. Japanese ships had no radar, needed reports from scout planes that in one case had a broken radio, and couldn't see U.S. dive bombers until it was almost too late.
Just shows how crucial accurate intel can be, and how rapidly a battle can change. No plan survives contact with the enemy, better to fight though, then get shot like a fish in a barrel.
GamerM1235 Hindsight is always 20/20. Nagumo had to make do with the intelligence he had when he got it. Plainly, there's nothing different he could have done with the information he received when he received it. He needed his planes rearmed when Tomonaga radioed that a second strike against Midway was needed. He had no intelligence reports of any nearby U.S. carrier group. He sent out scouts, and one discovered task force 17, the Yorktown's group, and he knew he had to switch the rearmed planes back to torpedoes. His ships repeatedly had to dodge air attacks during this time, which only increased the urgency of readying his own strike force. Just as it appears he could have launched a partial strike against TF 17, his own Midway strike force was returning and the carriers needed to use the decks to land them. This meant he needed to take his standby force below decks to finish the rearming. Just as it happened that he'd recovered his Midway strike force and the now rearmed second strike force was on deck and ready, out of nowhere American SBD Dauntless dive bombers attacked Nagumo's carriers, leaving 3 out of action. Again, there's really nothing Nagumo could have done differently with the information he received when he received it. The intel he got was what he was able to obtain with the technology of the time. There were no military satellites taking real time data for quick analysis, the Japanese had no radar (the video depicting the Japanese as knowing American planes were inbound is entirely inaccurate, they knew no such thing). Those were the times.
why do most WW2 films involving the japanese navy seem to include an old captain/admiral with an aggresive second in command who tends to be very loud while the commander is usualy taciturn? anyone else notice this?
Because its not the captain's job to get people to do things and assign tasks, his job is more broad and it narrows down. There's no point in him being anything but taciturn.
That was the relationship between two of the commanders at Midway. I can't remember exactly who but the same commander requested a third attack at Pearl Harbor, and further attacks at the Coral Sea, messaged the taskforce commander asking permission of launch an unescorted torpedo and bomb attack that may have prevented what you see here.
FYI guys, this is a clip of a 2011 film about Japan's greatest admiral, Isoroku Yamamoto. Pearl Harbor and Midway were Admiral Yamamoto's doing. IMDB describes the film as: "The life of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, from the early 1930's to his death at the hands of the US military in 1943." The film is very accurate and includes intricate detail about Yamamoto's plan and execution of the attack on Pearl Harbor and Battle of Midway. And the film does a good job showing the United States successfully targeting and killing Japan's then-top Admiral and a national hero. (A film clip of the attack can be seen here on RUclips). I have the film on DVD (found it on eBay). If you have an interest in WW II in the Pacific history you must have this DVD in your collection. The title in English is: "Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet;" the original Japanese title is "Rengô kantai shirei chôkan: Yamamoto Isoroku." I don't know if there's English-dubbed versions, but I have it with English subtitles, which I prefer in all my foreign films. P.S. Search on RUclips to see videos posted by tourists who have ventured on to the island where the Admiral's shot down plane sits to this day.
FYI, or maybe not, The British considered the ambush of Yamamoto's plane by US P-38's in 1943 to be "outside the rules of warfare". Of course, Britian was the same country who fire bombed the mostly un-armed German City of Dresden into a pile of charcoal, killing tens of thousands of civilians.
@@Gallagherfreak100 Yes, some U.S. military leaders whispered among themselves the opinion the plan an assassination. Of course, no one dared vocalized that belief because at the time Yamamoto was the WW II version of Osama bin Laden. Americans wanted Yamamoto dead, by any means possible.
I like how the dive bombers are shown after they release their bombs to basically parallel the paths of the bombs for a few second before pulling up. A small detail but well done.
+Johny “Animated” Anime That anime is the best show of Japanese historical revisionism when it comes to WW2 by treating the Japanese as the victims and the Allied forces as evil humanless monsters. and when I say best, I mean god aweful shit. Fuck revisionism.
Enterprise be like: "Notice me sempai." Yorktown: "..." Enterprise: "Hmmmm... Akagi is nice, stoic, and covered with gasoline. If I toss a match her way, maybe she'll notice me..."
3:31: “The air was just like a beehive.... I was utterly convinced that we weren’t any of us coming back because there were still so many Zeros.... And then I saw a glint in the sun that looked like a beautiful silver waterfall. It was the dive-bombers coming in.” - Lieutenant Commander Jimmy Thach, VF-3, USS Lexington, about the Battle of Midway
i think its one of the best war movies out here. portarying two sides of war hasnt been sufficient in most of movies. but miday did it with ease and amount of detail and subject of realism is unbelievable.
Yamamoto's complicated plan to trap the U.S. carriers and destroy them was based on classic Japanese thinking. Too complicated and fraught with too many unknowns for them to adjust and adapt. Of course, it didn't hurt that we were able to break their encrypted communications and knew exactly what they were going to do, where and more or less when. Thanks for sharing. I would love to get a copy of this movie.
I wonder if that logic can also be applied to Nanking. The truth is, you fucked with the wrong country on Dec 7th. Within 6 months we were sinking half of your navy.
Massacres committed by the IJA Alexandra Hospital massacre Laha massacre[68] Banka Island massacre[69] Parit Sulong Palawan Massacre SS Behar SS Tjisalak massacre perpetrated by Japanese submarine I-8 Wake Island massacre Tinta Massacre Bataan Death March Shinyo Maru Incident Sulug Island massacre Pontianak incidents War Crimes Bataan Death March Burma Railway Comfort women Hell ships Panjiayu tragedy Sandakan Death Marches Three Alls Policy War crimes in Manchukuo Changteh chemical weapon attack Kaimingye germ weapon attack
In the past there were very good war films of their day made by American filmmakers. Tora Tora Tora was an amazing film made jointly by American and Japanese directors. In that film they even had WWII pilots fly the aircraft in combat maneuvers.
The historical accuracy isn't that great in this movie. From what I read, the scout plane that found the American carrier(s) wasn't exactly positive that it was a carrier. Because of this Nagumo delayed his strike and brought his planes back in to reload. Also, the first planes to attack the Japanese carriers were torpedo planes, not dive bombers. But yes, dive bombers were the type of planes that did destroy those 3 carriers.
Eventhough america was fighting in both fronts and even their focus were mostly on the european they've still manage to handle the pacific, great job Respect to the veterans of the war.
2 things you might want to learn. 1 at the time of midway all of the land based fighting in Europe was done by the Russians, the only other fighting was bombing missions over Germany done mostly by British forces at the time with some US forces. In the pacific war it was not a us only show a large part of the pacific fleet was British and commonwealth ships. US films are mostly very inaccurate. Remember the Russians won ww2, they killed more Germans and Japanese than the rest, the USA was terrified of Russia invading Japan that’s why they nuked them.
4:01 Dick Best right into the gut FTW. Massively high stakes and probably the single most dramatic combat moment in the Pacific War, if not all WW2. Imagine seeing this in person 4:46
The real Nagumo's actions immediately after the wounding of his carriers contradict the depiction of him in this movie. He switched his flagship to one of the cruisers attached to the Kido Butai and pressed on with the attack. The Battle of Midway was only decided once Yamamoto called it off upon learning of the carriers' destruction.
What's really interesting is how quick it was over. In the blink of an eye you lose three carriers and go from the dominant power in the Pacific to on your heels for the rest of the war.
Most single engine prop planes will sound like that when the engine is stressed... it is just more common in a 172 because you are close to full RPMs all the time
This is such a good video. I'd love more well made WW2 movies from other perspectives. Not corny, over-the-top propaganda, special effects demonstrations, lol. Just good stories, realistic delivery, accurate to history, and from other countries.
Wow, I guess the Japanese can get the events of Midway wrong as well as the much older American Battle of Midway movie. This one has a lot of things wrong with it - the Japanese WERE NOT on the verge of launching any attack when the US dive bombers took out the three carriers shown here - they needed at least another half hour to 45 minutes to do that. Nor did the Japanese somehow magically know when the US squadrons were due to attack. This scene is clearly meant to suggest that the Japanese lost the battle through either bad luck or the stupid decisions of the admiral in charge. That was, in fact, not the case - the Japanese lost thanks to a number of fundamental deficiencies in Naval doctrine and attitude that were to plague the Imperial Navy all through the war. Since it was Japanese scholars who first discovered that the quasi-mythical version of the Battle postulated by Fuchida and other military memoirs in fact contained a lot of fiction I doubt that historians in Japan considered this film all that accurate if the scene here is any indication of its supposed historicity!
Ranillon I can't speak of all the details, but the scene does carry the essence of the situation. The Japanese were equipping their planes for an attack on Midway. Suddenly, they became aware of an American Carrier, spotted b a Japanese Scout, that, according to the Japanese plan, was not supposed to be there. Once they were aware of the Carrier, they knew they could expect an attack from the Americans. This scene portrays the impact of that discovery on Nagumo and his decision. It was a pure WTF moment for him.
TangomanX2008 Sure, it is broadly correct in that the Japanese were at Midway and did learn such things, but the details I point out are important. The version shown here, which is the one that members of the military after the war offered as a subtly fraudulent version of the details, is meant to make the Imperial Navy look as good as possible without actually telling obvious lies. A prime example is Mitsuo Funchida who offered this scene of the Japanese carriers full of planes on the verge of launching the great doomsday attack that would flatten the Americans when - shucks darn -- the gods of war turned against them as the US dive bombers arrived just in time to ruin everything. That "fortune was just against us" story makes the Imperial Fleet look competent and effective with only uncontrollable ill fortune being the cause of their defeat. It even plays into American egos by showing their flyers as being plucky warriors able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat through daring and skill. Problem is that the story is a lie - the Japanese carriers weren't anywhere near close to launching a strike. Now, point that out and that brings up awkward questions people like Fuchida didn't want being asked like why it was the Navy wasn't better prepared or wasn't able to get a strike going in anything like enough time? The answer lies in FUNDAMENTAL deficiencies in the Imperial Navy of the time that in turn pointed to bad planning, political infighting, admirals like Yamamoto deliberately covering up embarrassing failures, and so forth. Basically, the "winds of fate" version shown in this movie suggests to the viewer that the loss of the battle was for obvious reasons and in doing so nicely leaves the Combined Fleet looking as good as possible considering they still lost. This may sound like unimportant details, but in fact the implications can be vast. After all, producing an artificially rosy picture could have encouraged a false faith in the military or allowed certain individuals to avoid the consequences of their failures. Basically, truth should never be compromised merely to cover someone's ass!
Ranillon I haven't seen the movie, just the scene, so I do not know to what extent or what themes this scene is used to explore major themes related to war, such as heroism, the fog of war, sacrifice, changes of fortune, etc. To what extent this could be done seriously at the battle of midway, that is another question. I do understand your concerns about the importance of history, but movies (and theater) do take liberties with history, but we are talking about a movie here. Its going to contain oversimplified themes, glossed over and distorted facts, and may coddle its intended audience.
TangomanX2008 1) It shouldn't show or imply an impending major strike from the Japanese - at the time of the US dive bomber attack there were only a handful of CAP fighters on the carrier's flight decks. Kido Butai was at least a half hour from launching any major attack. This is the biggest error. 2) It shouldn't imply that Yamamoto withheld information from Nagumo (to be fair the scene states that Kido Butai (the carriers) should have picked up the message on enemy movements, but it still implies a mistake was made by not verifying that the info got through. We know that it did, but Nagumo didn't act on it for whatever reason). The intelligence was also less direct than what is implied here (maybe its clearer in the full scene from start to finish). 3) Finally, the Hiryu bridge crew shouldn't count the minutes before the expected US attack. The Japanese had no clue when the dive bombers were going to show up (a torpedo squadron also showed up at the same time, but made an ineffectual attack on the Hiryu which is why it survived for the moment).
@David Boson, It would be interesting had the Japanese and German codes not been broken but I still think the ending would have been the same. Demographics, logistics, geography and of course secure communications rule. Sun Tzu and Carl von Clausewitz wrote about war and the Japanese and Germans seem not to have studied the information. Indeed, they likely would not have gone to war had they really understood the facts.
@@WJack97224 ohh really germany were so advance in terms of tanks planes ships stc uk bissmark that thing scared the british like hell that they just send half of their navy to destroy single bismark and you are saying they are better....
@@dota2gamer469, Read The Art of War by Sun Tzu and then study Claus von Clausewtiz's notices. You have missed the point: might does not make right; immorality will be punished.
Reading an interesting book written by an IJN officer who was a successful destroyer skipper that was transferred to a training school. He wrote there was of course the supply problem, but a bigger problem was the IJN high command had largely never seen combat and made unrealistic strategic decisions. Yamamoto knew the inevitable outcome of an all out war with the US-but his country called upon his services and he did the best job he could even though he knew the war would end in disaster for Japan.
this is so false, they had probably one of the best naval combat experiences for any navy at the time, after the russo japanese war the japanese navy got a lot of experienced, and yamamoto himself was a veteran from that war as well as many other naval high command personnel. You could say that they didnt have experience with carrier battles, but no one had. let me remind you that ww2 is the first war where carriers where used, they were a very new technoligy and a perfect doctrine hadnt been made for them yet. The kido butai was probably the most experienced carrier forces at that time.
@Janoa Caster That war was fought in 1905, 35 years before Pearl Harbor. Most senior Japanese officers were very junior or not even in the Navy at that time. In actuality, very few Japanese officers were combat veterans when the war started. Yamamoto may have served in that war, but most other senior officers did not. The war in China was mostly an aviation war as China had no Navy. What Japan did have was total military control and intensively trained personnel. However, their pilot training program was never designed to replace the losses they suffered in the first year of the war. From late 1942, the Japanese pilots were becoming less and less trained each month. Additionally, Japanese aircraft never could keep pace with the Allied aircraft they were now facing. Every type of aircraft the Japanese faced in combat was replaced by a faster, more powerful replacement. The same applies to ship types as well; Essex class carriers, 3 classes of fast battleships, Baltimore class heavy cruisers, Cleveland class light cruisers, Independence class light carriers, 175 Fletcher class destroyers, 70 Allen M. Sumner class destroyers, 105 Gearing class destroyers just to mention a few. The U.S Navy was not any better, probably even worse at the beginning of the war.
@@patrickmccrann991 IJN: _spends decades building a fleet meticulously calculated to destroy the USN in two decisive battles, then wipes out the majority of the USN's on-paper combat strength in a single attack_ USN: _reinvents naval warfare to make most of their losses irrelevant, ctrl-z's the destroyed battleships back into existence, and replaces their losses so hard they set multiple records for "most produced [ship type]" in under 5 years, all while only using 10% of their power_
Japanese command: “The Americans are arriving simultaneously from all 4 sides! We cannot possibly defend these unorthodox vectors! They are exercising some of the best coordination we have ever seen!” Americans: “I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOIN- OH LOOK A SHIP!”
Lt. Cmdr. Rochefort: We've already won a great victory, Admiral. Maybe we oughta get our people out of there. Admiral Nimitz: You mean... break off, run for home? Lt. Cmdr. Rochefort: Before they can hurt us again. Yes, sir. Admiral Nimitz: Well, that might be the smart play, Commander. Trouble is, I *want* that fourth carrier.
And the Initiative was with Chester. He seized it. Or did God give it to him? That battle saved the U.S. from disaster. What a terrible loss of life all around though. One wonders why . .
@@happysawfish how did The Battle of Midway save the US from disaster? In every possible way the attack on Midway Atoll it was a low percentage roll of the dice by the Japanese with little risk to American aircraft carriers even if they had stayed in Pearl Harbor. That the Americans had already laid a trap by use of the false "low on fresh water" misinformation test, simply enforced how low that percentage truly was.
@@ivanjulian2532 Well the Japanese taking Midway would strategically have been quite a blow. They would have unsinkable airbase in range of Pearl Harbor and would set back the American war effort dramatically. And in a long-term sense, Japan's decisive defeat at Midway helped shorten the war by God knows how long. A draw or defeat for the US could have meant the war in the Pacific dragging on into 1946, which would've meant Soviet involvement and likely the splitting of Japan, Korea/Germany-style.
@@Midironica They would have had a devil of time keeping Midway supplied and defended. In the long run it would have been more of a burden than a blessing.
Yamamoto, having studied at Harvard and had been naval attache to the USA in 1919-1923, warned the Imperial High Command they had 6 mos. and then this giant (USA) would come back at them. Even accounting for the era it occurred (20th century) Midway is considered to be the most devastating loss in the history of naval combat.
This was the MOST decisive and Shattering Victory in the Pacific War and Top 3-5 in Navel Warfare History. Imperial Japan literally lost WW2 in a Span of 5-10 Minute's just 6-7 Month's after starting it. I've ALWAYS wanted Hollywood to remake this Epic Battle, Yamamoto was right in promising "Only being able to run Wild in the Pacific for 6 Month's to maybe a Yr."
What would you call the movie made in 1976 starring Henry Fonda,Charlton Heston,James Coburn,Hal Holbrook, Glenn Ford and Tom Selick????? they even used SENSURROUND
I always think it's incredible that the USA, at the same time they were invading Europe, was able to fight and win a war with an established naval power, Japan, on the other side of the world. Really shows how America became a superpower in this period.
US territory and industry were out of danger. In 1942-1945, most of German forces were on the Eastearn Front against USSR, and Japan held most of its infantry in the mainland against China and the British in Myanmar, elite army KantôGun was in Manchuria to counter a soviet attack
@@nadohawk The Royal Navy and Commonwealth forces in the Pacific came after the more important battle of the Atlantic was over (May or even June 1945); there was little time left to make much of a mark before August 1945. But the Royal Navy, Australian Navy and so on were there until the end, a task force within the huge allied effort to defeat Japan.
I do not know if those ships are CGI or Models, but either way I love when WW2 movies actually depict the ships that were there. Tora Tora Tora did a decent job of this as well. Micheal Bay's 'Pearl Harbor' However you see modern era ships being bombed and B-24s taking off from a Modern Carrier. With the budget he had, you'll think he'd have done a better job depicting WW2 area vessels.
This movie, while beautifully made, complete revised history by not mentioning or showing Emperor Hirohito at all. The Emperor is the reason (or excuse) why the whole nation was ready to commit suicide in his name, yet they replace his name with "Japan" and picture with Hitler and Mussolini (in a poster) with one of the Generals. Imagine if Germany made a movie or Italy showing the 3 Heads of State in the Axis but without Hitler or Mussolini? Like wtf?!!
+at1212 b Aye. The Emperor of Japan has been nothing more than a figurehead and a political tool for others since the Warring States Era. Back then the warlords were the one exacting power in his name and his WWII descendant was no different. Sure has a say on what goes on in the country but the final say lies in the military that had taken over the government. Dreadful time it was letting generals think what's best for the country.
***** Looks like you haven't seen the movie. There is NO reference to the Emperor,.. including a famous poster that IN REAL LIFE originally had Hirohito, Hitler and Mussolini. IN the MOVIE, Hirohito is not in that poster, and they refer to "FIGHT FOR JAPAN" in the movie instead of 'FIGHT FOR THE EMPEROR" that was used to motivate the soldier and nation in real life.
diane moore Doesn't change the fact that his name and existence was used.. IN Real Life: "We must fight to the death for the Glory of the EMPEROR". IN the Movie: "We must fight to the death for the Glory of JAPAN" You sound like a Japanese sympathetic revisionist.
Probably the worst mistake out of all of this is something never mentioned: Having those carriers so close in the first place... Hiryu managed to survive the first attack because she was several miles away. If the carriers were spread out, the outcome would have been much much much much different... Never mind that they screwed up in the minutes pointed out in this clip, they could have made up for it later if one carrier was destroyed but due to the carriers being spread out, the other three survived to carry on the battle....
They were trying to approach Midway under radio silence. Back then all communications between ships needed to be via flags or lights and they needed to see each other to follow. Likewise, most ships stayed relatively close to that AAA guns and patrol fighters could cover each other and so that torpedo bombers didn't have such easy drop lines towards the carriers. Aircraft at 20,000 feet could easily see five to ten miles so if you spread out too much, you increase the chance you'll be seen and make it harder for individual carriers to fend off attacks.
Imperial Japanese navy was probably not worried about sub attacks as they thought they would have the surprise element. But sub were another reason ww2 ships tended to stay closer together easier for the escorts to defend them
The first attack was torpedo and dive bombers aircraft from Midway, second was B-17 from Midway attacking from high altitude way above the the Japanese fighters. The third attack was by unescorted Avenger torpedo bombers. The first and third waves drew down the IJN combat air patrol to the deck. The dive bombers approached and attacked from medium altitude nearly unopposed. Akagi and Kaga were hit as was Soryu.
Let's not forget the four B-26 Marauders, each carrying a torpedo. Two were shot down, & one of these tried to crash into the Akagi. The other 2 barely made it back to Midway. One of the 2 that returned to Midway flew, at low level, over the Akagi's flight deck.
I would recommend Parshall and Tully's "Shattered Sword" as a definitive history of the battle. It removes the American victory from the realm of the "truly miraculous" to the realm of victory due to aggressive, competent leadership emboldened by faith in the men they led.
the americans staggering their waves of dive bombers, torpedo planes and high altitude bombers essentially won them the battle. the japanese fighters had to stay in the air constantly to fight off waves of attacks and they were distracted/ran out of gas just as the enterprise's dive bombers dropped out of the clouds and hit 3 of their carriers. the early waves of attacks were utterly decimated by japanese fighters and flak with few survivors. but their lives were given so that the final wave could make an unchallenged attack run
@@InTecknicolour it was not done on purpose, it just happened that way. There was almost a hour between the Torpedo planes attacking and the Dive bombers coming in.
This battle gave the United States the initiative in the Pacific much faster than waiting for the overwhelming wartime industrial productivity to come into play. Japan was only ever able to enjoy early success of surprise on a peaceful nation unprepared for war. The most surprising thing is Japan knew before they started the war that they could not win it.They foolishly thought we would rather let them keep the areas conquered then go to war. As was the case in all of WWII nations made poor assumptions of each other and based military action on them. To think the men in charge of nations would act so foolishly this far in human development is astonishing even in events of today.
don't think highly of yourself cause Japan was a small country. now it's china's turn. let's see if USA has gutta. your not going to bully them around.
don't think highly of yourself cause Japan was a small country. now it's china's turn. let's see if USA has gutta. your not going to bully them around.
The size of a country does not matter, at least not as much as it used to. There are so many other factors that contribute to a countries military strength that to say the amount of land it controls is the determining factor in a conflict is naive.
You're pretty dumb to be saying shit like that. Japan got lucky on one aspect. We ran short of nukes, The next ones would have fallen on Tokyo. which wouldn't have hurt my feelings at all.
The soundtrack accompanying the moments of raids on the Japanese carriers is utterly impressive... it was a critical minutes when just a handful of American bomb divers ended every thing and decide the fate of the pacific war . Although I think that it was better for the humanity that USA won the war but I can’t refrain myself from some kind of empathy with Japanese who lost everything in just minutes! That was ultimately destructive.
Even if Midway had not happened, the US would still have defeated Japan. In fact, Midway wasn't even decisive in that it destroyed IJN carrier forces...after the Battle of Santa Cruz, the USN was down to one damaged CV still in the Pacific, while the IJN still had multiple CVs. What Midway did, however, was destroy the overwhelming advantage the Japanese possessed in an intact 6 CV squadron (Kido Butai). Without those 4 CVs, the Japanese were drawn into an attritional battle with the USN that it could not hope to win. Because by mid-1943, the Americans would replace all of their losses with better CVs. While Japan never could really replace ANY of their losses with even equivalently powerful ships. Midway abruptly ended the ability of the IJN to confidently sail their death star strike weapon into any waters and be assured of local air superiority for a few days.
"...some kind of empathy with Japanese" Say that to the residents of Nanking, or in fact anywhere the Japanese conquered. Korea comes to mind. Add that to how the Japanese teach about WWII today and repeat that phrase.
When you think about it deeply, it's hard to blame Nagumo or any of the Japanese commanders. We Americans did what we should and sprang a trap on them. The tragedy is that the senseless war between two people who share so much had to happen in the first place.
The only mistake the Japanese did was attacking Pearl Harbor and thuse bringing the US in the war. Yamamoto knew how horrifically dumb this was but no one else listen to him.
Senseless war? Tell that to the thousands of Koreans, Filipinos, and Southeast Asians who were enslaved and raped by the Imperial Japanese military. Also, tell that to the Chinese after what the Japanese did to them after the Rape of Nanking.
@@Adam-mj5hl it was a senseless war. It was utter nationalist imperialist folly that led the Japanese to commit horrible acts of war. Nanking was senseless. Attacking the Korea and the US was senseless. It was a senselessly violent, cruel, destructive war.
@@Papershields001 Yes, but my point was that the United States’ involvement in WW2 was not senseless. The US were not aggressors. It was the unchecked Imperial Japanese government’s bloodthirst for nationalistic expansion that caused some of the most gruesome atrocities in modern history. The US simply responded in DEFENSE to Japanese aggression.
@@Adam-mj5hl I fail to see the relevance of your statement. I was never indicting the allied reaction as senseless. I’ve spent a lot of time in Japan, I was in Tokyo just this last month. Many of my families closest friends are Japanese. Being an American in Japan today you get a sense of the madness that World War Two must have been. It was crazy for the two peoples of Americans and Japanese to ever have gone to war with each other. What the Japanese militarists did was senseless. It led to untold loss of life and unimaginable suffering. Men of sense would never have done it. It was a SENSELESS waste of life. I don’t know what modern American Nationalist impulse made you think I was criticizing the motivations of the United States and forgiving Japanese atrocities, but I wasn’t.
Two different systems where one side was " locked in" to custom and formality and the other trusting training men to make the best decisions based upon training.
not sure I agree. Although the Japanese did spin the tale for many years that they were just moments away from launching their attack on the American carriers when the USN dive bombers came in, this has been shown to be false. Any IJN planes on the decks were CAP fighters not strike force. (ref. "Shattered Sword")
He did say "much accurate than" not perfectly accurate, and I agree with him. I felt I was watching a damn videogame cutscene when watching Midway 2019, a totally unrealistic despiction of the battle regarless of showing or not stuff like only CAP fighters on the flight decks and so on.
En los tres minutos en que fueron tocados de muerte los portaaviones Akagi, Kaga y Soryuu, Japón perdió la guerra, no sólo por los buques, sino por la cantidad enorme de experimentados pilotos navales que murieron.
Cierto, tomaba demasiado tiempo entrenarlos para que tuviesen esa eficiencia y al bajar los requisitos para tener más pilotos, los que entrenaron no tenían la misma percia.
The Japanese planes at Midway did not have any voice radios, they usually only worked on reception and with Morse code. And due to the lack of radars, the Japanese could not have any messages about any incoming enemy planes, they responded only visually.
This is one of the top 3 WW2 movies I’ve seen. Definitely the best from Japan’s perspective. Admiral Yamamoto was a very good man. He desperately wanted to avoid war, even risking assassination attacks to do so.
Umm, he was a war criminal who gave orders for crews of merchant ships to be killed by Japanese submarines and later surface ships. He would have been hanged had he not been bushwacked.
During the war-gaming by the Japanese prior to the Midway attack, the red team (USA) devastated the blue team (Japan) by surprising the Japanese carrier fleet with American carriers place north of Midway. The rules of the exercise were then changed to prevent such an outcome. It is hard to believe how accurately that first Japanese war-game predicted the actual battle of Midway.
For a movie that worked on half the budget of giant hollywood movies the CGI (Computer Generated Graphics) are amazing, The Dive bomber scene and defense machine guns shooting, Bad ass movie with great perspective outside of American stories.
We broke their code which was a huge advantage. The Japanese had no idea that the American carriers were waiting for them. Still, there was a whole lot of luck with many brave sailors and airmen involved. What a battle it was.
At 2:14 the two ships shown are Akagi bottom and Hiryu top is wrong. The Hiryu was out front, trailing behind Hiryu was Soryu then Akagi and slowest of the four carriers Kaga was bringing up the rear. At 3:34 a lookout aboard Akagi shouts into the voice tube "planes overhead dive bombing" Is wrong. The Akagi was blissfully unaware that she was under dive bomber attack. The Hiryu saw this happening signaled via the ships light a warning to Akagi but no one knows if Akagi received that message. At 4:03 there were no planes on deck as reported by pilot Richard Best and Akagi was not under evasive maneuvers because she wasn't even aware she was under attack. The single and only bomb hit on Akagi was by pilot Richard (Dick) Best. Later that day he planted a second bomb hit on Hiryu. At 5:08 is Akagi destroyed by a single bomb hit. Next is dead in water Kaga destroyed by three bomb hits. The first hit was by pilot Norman Jack (Dusty) Kleiss who later that day planted a second bomb on Hiryu and the next day a third bomb hit on the cruiser Mikuma. Lastly the shattered Soryu who suffered four (maybe even five) bomb hits. Some say the Americans got lucky at Midway but I disagree. Norman Jack (Dusty) Kleiss in his book Never Call Me a Hero states that luck had nothing to with victory. He said their success was from their training, skill, dedication and devotion to duty is what won the battle.
4:35 love how it shows the Japanese pilot running out of ammo while chasing an American plane. They just didn’t have enough time to completely land, rearm everything and takeoff again
***** I am aware. that doesn't mean these men weren't brave. I understand the Japanese culture to be of a cult like at that time in history. I am certainly no expert but I understand the Japanese have made significant changes to their societal structure as a result of WW2...I think.
It wasn't "absolutely" true to real facts. It completely omitted the massacre of the unescorted torpedo bombers, which resulted in the Japanese fighters being at low altitude and without fuel and ammo. This left the carriers vulnerable to the unopposed dive bombers.
It's sad that a movie so well done ( effects and editing are quite good) would have so many errors. As mentioned in the comment below, historical research (originally in Japan and followed up by US) has now shown that the Japanese were not "just about" to launch a strike. They were busy recovering and launching their CAP which was running out of 20mm ammo shooting down American torpedo planes from Midway and from the U.S. Fleet. Nagumo lost the battle army that day when he lost the scouting battle and the U.S. Found his fleet first. From then on he was on the defensive and the odds then caught up with him. This doesn't diminish the heroism and sacrifice made on both sides. The poor Japanese handling of munitions under great stress and poor damage control also contributed. They are not the first to make at least the first mistake as poor British handling of munitions cost them several cruisers at Jutland.
He probably lost it when they went in and did not realize 3 enemy aircraft carriers and Midway airfield were all waiting and prepared for the Kido Butai
@@Jake-fy1pn He had four carriers with the best Naval Aviators on the planet. If they had found the US first it would have been dicey. All the planes from Midway missed so it’s the US carriers that did the damage and timing played a big part.
By Midway everyone knew that Carriers had replaced battleships as the power of the seas. The war would come down to who had the most carriers. Japan built something like 12 carriers of all sizes during the war, the US built something like 70.
+Aaron Paul What really doomed the Japanese was that their High Command came to the same conclusion but far too late, only after Midway. They quickly attempted to build new carriers by giving them the highest priority and taking shortcuts converting some cruisers and even the then under construction Super Battleship Shinano, but Japan simply lacked the domestic raw materials and shear industrial capacity of the US had. Early in the war its overseas supply line remained relatively intact but after the US fixed its little torpedo problem in 1943 (actually a HUGE scandalous problem), Japan found its raw material supply chain suddenly being choked off with a ruthless efficiency. They simply ran out of steel to build ships with by the end of 1944.
KlunkerRider High command, I think knew the importance of carriers, but underestimated the scale that that US would use them. The goal of pearl harbor and midway was to destroy the american carriers, so they knew that it was carriers who ruled the seas. You are right about the torpedo issue, kinda amazing what to look to convince the brass that americans didnt just suck at marksmanship.
+Aaron Paul they had 25 carriers and the USA only had 27 carriers so i don't see how these numbers you got match and the USA just by midway had learned from their enemy as at the start of the war japan was winning until America realized what to do.
josh kidd In total, the japanese had 15 Fleet Carriers, 5 light and 5 escort carriers, including other ships converted. The US started the war with 7, but built 24 essex class and 9 independence class carrier during the war. Giving them a total of 40 that served. Japan started the war with 10 carriers, meaning that 15 were build during the war, compared to 33 american carriers built. Of the japanese carriers, all of the prewar carriers were confined by the washington naval treaty, and many of those built during the war were converted. I apologize for my original numbers, i was too lazy to do research and commented from memory. It was not accurate but the point remains. America built more carriers during the war than the japanese had in total. by a wide margin.
La batalla naval de Midway representa el mejor ejemplo del uso de una posición de expectativa para esperar y derrotar a una fuerza enemiga superior, pero desprevenida.
I recall reading or seeing somewhere that the big Rising Sun national emblem painted on the JIN carrier flight decks was an excellent aiming point for USN aircraft.
Two inaccuracies here: a) When the divebombers attacked the Japanese carriers, there were no planes on the flight decks. Except for Zeros flying CAP, all the planes were in the hanger decks being refueled and rearmed. b) For some reason, there is nothing in this clip about the first attack by three squadrons of TBD Devastators, which lost almost all their planes but which forced the Japanese out of formation, caused all the Zeroes to cluster in one location, and pulled them down too low to confront the dive-bombers.
Yeah, you think you've got it made compared to the grunts, you're in an indoor bed every night, enough food, and then suddenly you and thousands of other men burn to death, or drown, or are eaten by sharks.
The astonishing thing about the USA-Japan War is that barely ten years later every American wanted a Japanese motorbike and every Japanese loved Elvis.
The concept that 'timing is everything' is true for everything. Battle of Midway was just another example.
"The Rape of Nanjing".
This happened in 1937, prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec 7,1941. Japan attacked Nanjing, China, and Japan had borrowed so much from the Chinese: culture, religion, architecture, writing, government. Many Chinese were ruthlessly killed and the women raped when Nanjing was invaded. And the Japanese have never apologized to China for the invasion. Japanese history books do not go into detail about the brutality of the Japanese army when they invaded and conquered Southeast Asia. It is no wonder that the younger Japanese people are so clueless as to the brutality of their ancestors. Thank you for mentioning: The Rape of Nanjing" which also happens to be a great book ( which the Japanese say is a fabrication).
I guess we forget the American war on the Philippines. All sides commit atrocities. Of course you only here of the enemy ones. The only one i hold beyond the others is the eating of P.O.W.s live and dead for symbolic reasons not starvation. Japan did that on certain islands with captured pilots. That is just not explainable as a horror of war of a modern people.
Some people only remember what they want to remember!
bodasactra
google 'Unit 731', please
Let the USA & Japan be at peace with each other now & forever.
Lucky that is precisely what happened
A Prius Googoomobile with a COEXIST sticker will save humanity.
Amen! Now strongest of Pacific Allies. We steamed with the Japanese Navy. We were impresses with their professionalism durning night operations underway replenishment. Impressive. Kempai Kempai Kempai! Nippon.
Both army are still fighting today...in the underworld
Amen.
All IJN carriers had red disk painted on their flight decks during Midway because of an incident at Coral Sea, which was not accurately depicted here, although they discontinued painting the red disk on the flight deck after Midway. They realized it actually helped US dive bomber to aim effectively when diving.
I'm not sure I would call AN ENTIRE FUCKING JAPANESE SQUADRON lining up to land on a Yorktown, as just an "Incident".
That incident happened at night.
It's called a meatball, not a disc.
@@anarchyandempires5452 it would've been awkward if Yorktown had let them. Imagine that.
Japanese pilots: Man, what a day. Guess we'll go to the bridge to rep-
*sees American bridge staff*
Nani?!
@@anarchyandempires5452 LMAO WHAT?!?!
1:06
Hiryu and Vice-Admiral Tamon Yamaguchi had so iconic stories.
This is actually a surprisingly good movie. Took a while to find an English subbed version but I managed to watch the whole thing. Quite well done, would recommend.
You can't just do that and not tell us where we can watch it! I've been looking for ages!
@Edward Smith wodfix... It's a free movie app.. and it's got everything including shows n older movies as well as movies that are still in theatres.. and yes this movie as well, with subtitles. I just looked it up for y'all, thought I could help. Enjoy 😊
"Actually a surprisingly good movie" - you watch way too much Hollywood movies, please come out of the well you living in...
@@risingsun9595the app has a four letter name, starts with "K" and ends with "I"
3:37 *OUTTA NOWHERE !!!!*
Japanese commander calmly: "Hm, well that's quite unexpected. Guess we're fucked then"
*continues starring calmly at the waves*
一山田 A little later at Surigao Strait:
Fuso Captain: "HOLY FUCKING SHIT, TURN AROUND, TURN THE FUCK AROUND !"
+一山田 I didn't see any civilians in this clip. What are you talking about?
+一山田 me neither. He is probably referring to all the millions of Chinese people the Japanese massacred for no apparent reason.
+一山田 I dont know why you are so upset. We saved the Japanese people living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki millions of Yen a year on their electric bill by making them glow in the dark.
+Chau Anderson what I mean is that they are already hopeless under that situation. what they can do is to keep whirling around to create confusion to american bombers. but you know, the velocity is terribly slow compared with those birds in the air.
The acting and directing is quite good. I cannot say whether it is an accurate portrayal of events, but the film does a great job of conveying the gravity and seriousness of the events. You can see it all over the actors' faces and in the tone of voice (even if you do not speak Japanese.) When the Admiral looks out and sees the ships burning, he seems to realize that Japan has lost the war and that his entire way of life may come to an end.
"The acting and directing is quite good"
What a joke...
To point the eyes on an imaginary point is the level zero of acting and directing.
@@BFVK Yes...all those CGI bridge officers and pilots in frame.
I read recently that that whole story about hesitating to use torpedoes or refueling was a hoax made up by some Japanese officer prisoner of war trying to cover up his own mistakes. It wouldn't surprise me if it were true.
This movie is for the most part accurate
However some inaccuracies have been pointed out by people like 5 Yamato class battleships were seen (none were present in this battle), the flak being too thick and too frequent (Japanese got alot of AA but they suck ass) and 2 historical pilots were switched place
Missing the heroic sacrifice of the US torpedo bombers..
The interesting thing about the battle of midway was that when it was concluded, the IJN advantage in carriers was reduced to a rough parity with the USN. IJN lost 4, USN lost 1. Then, neither side had enough carriers for offensive operations in the pacific. Thus, the IJN offensives were halted and a stalemate was achieved. Worst outcome for Japan because the US shipbuilding and industry capacity was a huge advantage as Adm. Yamamoto had predicted.
Another interesting fact is that the american carriers carried more planes than Japan's carriers did therefore 2 american carriers had the equivalent aircraft of roughly 3 IJN carriers. So that factors in as well in determining what "parity" was.
...so many ifs and buts wasn't there...i think the original plan called for six carriers...the same six that went to pearl harbour.
It ironic that The Japanese keep bombing the Combat ships in Pearl Harbour, However they ONE HUGE mistake, they never bomb the Fuel Depots that was located next door.
Don't forget that the US had already broken the Japanese radio encryption.
..."Then, neither side had enough carriers for offensive operations in the pacific"
Not true as in August, the Americans pushed for Guadalcanal.
"Then, neither side had enough carriers for offensive operations in the pacific"
Not true as in August, three months later, the Americans pushed, and won, at Guadalcanal.
"stupid CV"
"report CV"
"useless CV doesn't help"
this is what they actually feel
Lol you play wows😂
And also "noob CV"
XD A wows Player (im a cv Player too and ım not like this)
Well, most of the CV players are *lonely* on the back, isn't it? (Dunno about you guys, so i'm sorry for offense). Which make it vulnureable to enemy ship/aircraft attack.
In this situation, however, the 4 carrier were protected in their Battle Group. If it was a game, the AAA should be good enough to take all of 'em-Or... not?
Barri 2410
In wows CVs can defend themselves against air attack with good enoughAA and fighters (unless the enemy CV don’t care about losing their planes afterward) and if CV go with the team they’ll most likely get torpedoes or shot to death.
@@firecracker739 well, no. Many CVs has weak AAA, so they need Both their Fighters and Allied ship AAA so the enemy Bombers couldn't get through to attack.
That's why no CV in real life ever go alone, they need Escorts to protect them from Attack (Air, Surface, Underwater)
Also, if you want to keep your friendly CV alive for the rest of the battle, *protect them* (
1. Scouting Advantage
2. Complete Map Control
3. Timing Attack
4. GG
You left out massive vessel disadvantage for US and poor battle planning by the IJN. What you listed is irrelevant.
sounds like starcraft broodwar
You left out code breaking. It was the usn knowledge of Japanese intentions that made everything this else possible
Not to mention breaking their code.
@@norrisphillips4360code breaking was irrelevant for Midway.
As stated, let’s say the IJN decided to approach with surface ships up front and the carriers were behind.
So go ahead and explain what the US would do. They have 8 cruisers with 15 destroyers plus their 3 carriers.
The IJN is approaching in various division groups with 11 battleships, 22 cruisers and 64 destroyers. Plus they had 9 carriers available but obviously didn’t use them properly but let’s say they did.
One of my favorite movies is the old 1976 version of Midway with Charlton Heston, Pat Morita, Hal Holbrook, and the great Toshiro Mifune as admiral Yamamoto.
That movie from 1976 is great. They tried to be very accurate with sub-titles describing the names of the pilots, and the names of the ships on screen at the time. It was a little long viewing for its time, IMHO.
they actually used footage from the attack on midway, Ford was with the task group when the attack happened
That was a great movie. One of my favorites.
Like the movie too, but you can fast forward through the ridiculous (and utterly unnecessary) romantic subplot between Edward Albert and his Nissei girlfriend.
It was in SENSURROUND. An early use of subwoofers in theaters.
I personally prefer this over the actions scenes of the newer movie. This feels more dramatic and closer to reality
Midway atleast showed us what it was like to pilot a full dive.
Yes, Hollywood puts modern haircuts on the pilots, throws lots of cliche jargon, and always has a guy yelling while firing a machine gun. This scene was far better than Hollywood movie drivel.
That said, it would be great if Spielberg or Tom Hanks could produce a miniseries like Band of Brothers based on the book Miracle At Midway. Showing all the preparation and intel games that went on before the battle, the recon aspects of the battle, and the sheer luck (good and bad) involved in the battle.
This one seems to show the carriers fine one frame then the next three are on fire and sinking. Like ok it's skipped through the most important bit xD
The Greatest battle in American Naval history. One of the reasons I joined the US Navy. We all remember D-day but the battle of Midway was a far greater prize.
+MrKe4bss D-Day involved over 10,000 vessels on the allied side, not even counting aircraft and other forces. Midway involved fewer than fifty vessels on the American side, and fewer than 100 on the Japanese. Calling Midway greater than D-Day is like calling a puddle greater than an ocean.
+Merely Correct What naval vessels did the germans lose vs what naval vessels did the japanese lose? Notice that he said in Naval history, not just history.
+Nathan Ferreira baba bullshit comment
+Merely Correct You judge a battle by numbers or by size? David defeated Goliath? The Allies could have survived a defeat during D-day 1944 but at Midway, June, 1942 the USA, standing alone, had to win. You fail to see the forest for trees. How sad.
+Merely Correct The USA could afford to lose at D-Day 6-6-44 but could not afford to lose at 6-4-42. That's the difference.
I've read two different accounts of how Yamamoto reacted when informed of the losses at Midway: one was that he was playing cards and continued to play, never seemingly hearing about the losses; the other was he got up from his desk and went to a window and stared outside, never moving, for nearly an hour.
Anyone know how he reacted to hearing the news? Thanks.
He took it calmly and ordered the surface ships to close for a night engagement if the enemy could be brought to one.
He probably reacted like this
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He finally took a big dump he'd been holding in.
@@Thomas_Anders0n wow, thanks for tracking down that historical footage!
hard to say we can know
Fantastic score.
+一山田 Not sure if you know, because I wasn't very clear. I meant the soundtrack.
+Eric Moss My favorite part o fthe film bar none and one reason why I uploaded this.
The first Naval battle in which the 2 opposing navies never saw each other.
That was the Coral Sea.
+Eric Moss nope there wer ship to ship contact
Midway is one of the most interesting naval actions in history from a leadership perspective. Both sides suffered equally from bad luck and poor timing, but neither flag admiral made any significant tactical errors.
lol.... you are delusional
Nagumo didn't make errors? Caught with his decks full of planes rearming and refueling was not bad luck it was more a series of bad decisions that led to him being caught with his pants down so to speak
@@wildwillie5408 It was bad luck and bad timing. Launching his torpedo-bombers against the American carriers with conventional bombs would have been a waste of time and effort and the combat air patrol did exactly what they were meant to: Intercepted the American torpedo-bomber attack.
HE bombs might not have sunk US carriers but they could've blown/burned up wooden flight decks. plus forcing the US carriers to defend themselves couldn't have hurt. from the japanese view that surely would have been preferrable to how it did play out@@jamesharding3459
And somehow the American bad luck ended up being their goodluck
The Us submarine that was sent to aid the battle somehow found itself in the middle of the Japanese fleet, which got a destroyer on its tail as the fleet move away
Despite living with no damage dealt, the submarine happen to be right in a lost US aircraft squadron trying to find the IJN fleet, seeing the destroyer (having given up on hunting the submarine) going back to their fleet, the squadron followed the destroyer and see the IJN fleet just as the last US squadron attack was finish, causing an almost instantaneous follow up that caught the Japanese completely unprepared
well I'll be damned. i never heard of this film, but I must say this is probably the most well made cinematic naval battle I've ever seen. the series the Pacific missed a golden opportunity to include these incredible moments like at Midway, Leyte, etc. fantastic filming.
After this battle Japan realized that they....had fucked up
True,but they still had a chance then after this they knew they had no chance
mhm 0hsnappl3s
***** But Japan is not fucked forever they fucked up with ww2 but as soon as the Imperial regime fell they started to rebuild and nowadays they are leaps and bounds ahead in several ways then the country that beat them. Rather sad actually.
+Aharon Chan They had a very slight chance. What they were hoping was that the massive blow to our fleet would crush our morale.
AJ808 They actually have another chance to push the Americans back in Guadalcanal but they also fucked up that one
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
Quote from Isoroku Yamamoto regarding Pearl Harbour.
+James Wil As iconic as that line is, there's only sketchy evidence actually tying it to Yamamoto (he believed that America - like any nation attacked by deception - would fight all the more viciously for it, certainly).
the US freezed all Japanese gold/bank assets and oil, the US warmonger bastards wanted that war and knew perfectly pearl harbor was coming
Stupid bastard, mention shit with context: The US was attempting to force Japan to negotiate over their recent invasions in Asia, the only reason Pear harbour happened was because the Japanese faked negotiation interest whilst decreasing the expectation of attack. Furthermore, the only report of a potential attack came from a dutch double agent that US wouldn't trust, especially over an ambassador with potential peace talks. Either you're too stupid to fact check shit or you have a vendetta against the Americans.
Yeah. At first the Japanese thought of that as something of a bluff, but when the Pacific War was close to an end... And the drop of the Atom bombs. Japan was written to be defeated the moment America developed those bombs, and when they spit at them on Hawaii.
One of Yamamoto's faults was that he tried to be on time and keep a precise schedule. We intercepted their code and knew where he would be, exactly. We took the best of the best pilots in a few P-38's and the rest is history. The bomber that was carrying him is still resting in the jungle
Never heard of this 2011 film. It looks awesome. Going to order the DVD asap!
Thank you for posting this movie clip. I think it is important to see the opposing side of the conflict even though the war ultimately turned against Japan. It is beyond regrettable that so many young lives were lost during the conflict. Let us hope this sort of war never comes to pass again.
What an absolutely idiotic, political post.
Every death on those ships was all the more regrettable thinking just how absurd a situation they were put in, told to essentially do an almost impossible task with what they had and then blindsided by the IJN's own foolhardy ego, poor doctrine, and sheer bad luck.
And then they had the audacity to blame Nagumo for it. Yamamoto sat on his ass the entire battle expecting the enemy to just do whatever he needed but they blame the guy who not only KNEW had no correct choices to make but was trying his damnedest to succeed anyway? No wonder the IJN lost.
The Jspanese were fighting to stop the Chinese. The Germans wanted to stop the Russians. Had the USA not interfered, what would the world look like today? Would it be a better place?
Unfortunately Putin is busily following the footsteps of Hitler so we are all in danger of just such events 😞
Here's hoping his successor is less of a paranoid warmonger 🙂
@SMChurchill I'm pretty sure the Biden administration is trying to outdo Hitler.
The Japanese depiction of Nagumo's dilemma at the Battle of Midway and Tamon Yamaguchi adding unhelpful mental fuel to the fire.
Yamaguchi was correct.....until the American Task Force was discovered. Nagumo should have launched the planes armed as they were. Bombing a carrier is better than waiting too long. If he had launched The Second Wave as is, who knows what would have happened. No bombs laying all over the hangar decks. Fighters would have been in the air. Midway could have waited.
@@krismurphy7711 All with the benefit of hindsight, something neither of them had that day.
@@krismurphy7711 Also they had plenty of CAP int the air, problem was it was all chasing the remnants of the torpedo squadrons, or the ones from Midway.
For an accurate description, read 'Shattered Sword'. This book correctly shows that no Japanese carrier was ready to launch a strike when they were hit at 1020hrs, as the only aircraft on deck were replacement CAP.
Constant attacks from Midway aircraft beforehand meant that the strike aircraft and munitions were still below deck waiting for a chance to spot the strike.
This position is clearly supported by the official Japanese war history, and movies such as this and 'Midway' were simply created for both sides to say 'we were that close'.
If you question this, then look at the official war photos taken immediately before the 1020hrs attack as the decks were in constant use taking care of fighter CAP needs - there were no aircraft being spotted on the carrier flight decks, and trying to spot armed aircraft on an carrier tearing donuts in the ocean is dangerous to say the least.
This movie only shows fighters on deck, the old idea that Japan was moments away from victory come party from the fact that SBD's saw aircraft launching during their dives, but these were just CAP fighters
I love the Japanese actors in these movie clips. I never saw this movie, but I can appreciate Salior's bravery even if is the enemy or a hostile regime. These Japanse actors did a very good job at portraying what took place within the IJN Task Force that day
Yeah. This is a wonderfully shot and acted sequence, but radically different from what we now know happened. Basically, it's the Fuchida version of the battle.
The Japanese codes were broken and the Americans knew where and when they would be. Without that the battle could have ended very differently
Great post and spot on. Shattered Sword was meticulously researched using Japanese sources.
In fact, Lieutenant Nanko received the mission to attack the carrier immediately, tried to accept that proposal. But Chief Staff, the Kusaka Lieutenant Colonel Gerend of the Air had strived to attack the enemy carriers after accommodation of the First Attack Corps, so Nagumo from a torpedo adopted this opinion.
Nagumo climbed this decision until after all. Originally, Nagumo was reflecting that fleet be in crisis due to the battle of the Indian Ocean, so agreed with Mr. Yamaguchi's opinion. The greatest failure of Lieutenant Nagumo is he tried to catch up the distance to the enemy carrier by the time of the transfiguration. This is very dangerous in Midway Island's insufficient attack effect, it will be a two front strategy against the enemy carrier and Midway Air Force.
In fact, during the military transformation, the offensive from the land bomber and the destruction of the lightning strike launched from the aircraft carrier were being dropped to the water surface from the normal altitude. For that reason, despite the patrol aircraft around sky is none. It be vulnerably attacked by SBD dive bomber.
"Between a rock and a hard place" doesn't nearly do justice to the dilemma Nagumo faced then
+BTL Y-Wing Maybe, but his inability to make a decision and stick with it ended up being worse than making the decision either way. None of the three carriers would have been fatally damaged if they hadn't been full of armed and fueled aircraft when they were hit. Nagumo failed to understand how critical it was NOT to leave his ships in that state any longer than absolutely necessary.
Oberstgreup "load the torpedoes!" "Wait no load the armor piercing bombs!" "Forget the bombs back to the torpedoes!"
Oberstgreup
Nagumo's dilemma developed slowly. First, Lt. Commander Tomonaga radioed that a second strike against Midway was needed. So, he heeded the warning that message contained: Midway was still a threat. This became too obvious over the next half hour or so, as Midway bomber groups made several attacks, including a high level bombing by USAAC B-17's, a glide bombing attack by USMC Dauntless dive bombers (led by Maj. Loftus Henderson, some of his pilots were barely out of flight school and were too green to attempt an actual dive bombing), and another dive bombing attack by USMC SB2U Vindicators. All failed to even score a single hit.
As the switch from torpedoes to contact bombs neared half completion, a scout plane radioed a contact with a U.S. Navy surface fleet of "10 ships." Nagumo ordered the scout plane to ascertain ship types, and the scout answered moments later that the American surface fleet was "accompanied by what appears to be a Yorktown class aircraft carrier."
Nagumo then ordered his aircraft rearming halted and switch back to torpedoes, Midway would have to wait. While this confusion was going on, admiral Yamaguchi suggested sending off the strike force however they were armed. In the meantime, American air attacks continued, this time torpedo planes; which were slaughtered by the zero fighters.
After the last American torpedo attack, Nagumo thought of doing as Yamaguchi suggested, but it almost immediately became unfeasible. His strike planes from Midway were returning and reporting low on fuel, as were his defensive air wings.
This is when he ordered his aircraft taken below for rearming and changed course to close distance with the U.S. carrier group (believed to be the Yorktown's).
His plane service crews were now disregarding safety regulations and haphazardly leaving ordinance wherever on the flight deck and in the hangars it was out of the way, which contributed to the dangerous situation.
Honestly, I'm not sure what else Nagumo could have done with the information he received when he received it. Japanese ships had no radar, needed reports from scout planes that in one case had a broken radio, and couldn't see U.S. dive bombers until it was almost too late.
Just shows how crucial accurate intel can be, and how rapidly a battle can change. No plan survives contact with the enemy, better to fight though, then get shot like a fish in a barrel.
GamerM1235
Hindsight is always 20/20. Nagumo had to make do with the intelligence he had when he got it. Plainly, there's nothing different he could have done with the information he received when he received it. He needed his planes rearmed when Tomonaga radioed that a second strike against Midway was needed. He had no intelligence reports of any nearby U.S. carrier group. He sent out scouts, and one discovered task force 17, the Yorktown's group, and he knew he had to switch the rearmed planes back to torpedoes. His ships repeatedly had to dodge air attacks during this time, which only increased the urgency of readying his own strike force.
Just as it appears he could have launched a partial strike against TF 17, his own Midway strike force was returning and the carriers needed to use the decks to land them. This meant he needed to take his standby force below decks to finish the rearming.
Just as it happened that he'd recovered his Midway strike force and the now rearmed second strike force was on deck and ready, out of nowhere American SBD Dauntless dive bombers attacked Nagumo's carriers, leaving 3 out of action.
Again, there's really nothing Nagumo could have done differently with the information he received when he received it. The intel he got was what he was able to obtain with the technology of the time. There were no military satellites taking real time data for quick analysis, the Japanese had no radar (the video depicting the Japanese as knowing American planes were inbound is entirely inaccurate, they knew no such thing). Those were the times.
why do most WW2 films involving the japanese navy seem to include an old captain/admiral with an aggresive second in command who tends to be very loud while the commander is usualy taciturn? anyone else notice this?
Because its not the captain's job to get people to do things and assign tasks, his job is more broad and it narrows down. There's no point in him being anything but taciturn.
albertjester
because the commanders can't lose their shit
In this particular case - seniority. Nagumo graduated Etajima earlier than Yamaguchi.
That was the relationship between two of the commanders at Midway. I can't remember exactly who but the same commander requested a third attack at Pearl Harbor, and further attacks at the Coral Sea, messaged the taskforce commander asking permission of launch an unescorted torpedo and bomb attack that may have prevented what you see here.
Clem Cornpone
Practicality. Winds at sea change quickly, and it wouldn't take much to lose the hat (part of the uniform) for good at sea.
FYI guys, this is a clip of a 2011 film about Japan's greatest admiral, Isoroku Yamamoto. Pearl Harbor and Midway were Admiral Yamamoto's doing. IMDB describes the film as: "The life of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, from the early 1930's to his death at the hands of the US military in 1943."
The film is very accurate and includes intricate detail about Yamamoto's plan and execution of the attack on Pearl Harbor and Battle of Midway. And the film does a good job showing the United States successfully targeting and killing Japan's then-top Admiral and a national hero. (A film clip of the attack can be seen here on RUclips).
I have the film on DVD (found it on eBay). If you have an interest in WW II in the Pacific history you must have this DVD in your collection. The title in English is: "Isoroku Yamamoto, the Commander-in-Chief of the Combined Fleet;" the original Japanese title is "Rengô kantai shirei chôkan: Yamamoto Isoroku." I don't know if there's English-dubbed versions, but I have it with English subtitles, which I prefer in all my foreign films.
P.S. Search on RUclips to see videos posted by tourists who have ventured on to the island where the Admiral's shot down plane sits to this day.
FYI, or maybe not, The British considered the ambush of Yamamoto's plane by US P-38's in 1943 to be "outside the rules of warfare". Of course, Britian was the same country who fire bombed the mostly un-armed German City of Dresden into a pile of charcoal, killing tens of thousands of civilians.
@@Gallagherfreak100 Yes, some U.S. military leaders whispered among themselves the opinion the plan an assassination.
Of course, no one dared vocalized that belief because at the time Yamamoto was the WW II version of Osama bin Laden. Americans wanted Yamamoto dead, by any means possible.
I like how the dive bombers are shown after they release their bombs to basically parallel the paths of the bombs for a few second before pulling up. A small detail but well done.
Probably the best movie I'd seen so far of the Battle of Midway from the Japanese's perspective!
Wheatley GLADOS what is the name of the movie?
Angelo Theofanous Isoroku Yamamoto is the name of this great movie. My favourite warmovie.
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And then Akagi was reincarnated to become a Kantai Girl.
lol, akagi senpai
+hereLiesThisTroper She's afloat!!
+Johny “Animated” Anime That anime is the best show of Japanese historical revisionism when it comes to WW2 by treating the Japanese as the victims and the Allied forces as evil humanless monsters.
and when I say best, I mean god aweful shit. Fuck revisionism.
Enterprise be like: "Notice me sempai."
Yorktown: "..."
Enterprise: "Hmmmm... Akagi is nice, stoic, and covered with gasoline. If I toss a match her way, maybe she'll notice me..."
Rabbit on Da Moon Yandere Enterprise-chan?
3:31: “The air was just like a beehive.... I was utterly convinced that we weren’t any of us coming back because there were still so many Zeros.... And then I saw a glint in the sun that looked like a beautiful silver waterfall. It was the dive-bombers coming in.” - Lieutenant Commander Jimmy Thach, VF-3, USS Lexington, about the Battle of Midway
Amazing considering the USS Lexington was sunk a few weeks before at Coral Sea.
@@canuckster24 Thach and VF-3 were reassigned to the USS York after Lexington was sunk at Coral Sea.
i think its one of the best war movies out here. portarying two sides of war hasnt been sufficient in most of movies. but miday did it with ease and amount of detail and subject of realism is unbelievable.
Yamamoto's complicated plan to trap the U.S. carriers and destroy them was based on classic Japanese thinking. Too complicated and fraught with too many unknowns for them to adjust and adapt. Of course, it didn't hurt that we were able to break their encrypted communications and knew exactly what they were going to do, where and more or less when. Thanks for sharing. I would love to get a copy of this movie.
You have to admire their steadfast discipline if nothing else. Its something that certainly died with them in 1945.
+一山田 We're proud of winning the war.
I wonder if that logic can also be applied to Nanking. The truth is, you fucked with the wrong country on Dec 7th. Within 6 months we were sinking half of your navy.
+一山田 Do you know what your country did in china? Unit 731?
Massacres committed by the IJA
Alexandra Hospital massacre
Laha massacre[68]
Banka Island massacre[69]
Parit Sulong
Palawan Massacre
SS Behar
SS Tjisalak massacre perpetrated by Japanese submarine I-8
Wake Island massacre
Tinta Massacre
Bataan Death March
Shinyo Maru Incident
Sulug Island massacre
Pontianak incidents
War Crimes
Bataan Death March
Burma Railway
Comfort women
Hell ships
Panjiayu tragedy
Sandakan Death Marches
Three Alls Policy
War crimes in Manchukuo
Changteh chemical weapon attack
Kaimingye germ weapon attack
+一山田 After what Japan did to China, hell yes.
It's a shame that when it comes to historical accuracy, the Japanese are making better movies than Hollywood. All we get is crap like Pearl Harbor.
In the past there were very good war films of their day made by American filmmakers. Tora Tora Tora was an amazing film made jointly by American and Japanese directors. In that film they even had WWII pilots fly the aircraft in combat maneuvers.
try Letters from Iwo Jima.
The historical accuracy isn't that great in this movie. From what I read, the scout plane that found the American carrier(s) wasn't exactly positive that it was a carrier. Because of this Nagumo delayed his strike and brought his planes back in to reload. Also, the first planes to attack the Japanese carriers were torpedo planes, not dive bombers. But yes, dive bombers were the type of planes that did destroy those 3 carriers.
We got Band of brothers and saving private ryan which were both very realistic
what about Enemy at the Gates?
Eventhough america was fighting in both fronts
and even their focus were mostly on the european
they've still manage to handle the pacific, great job
Respect to the veterans of the war.
2 things you might want to learn.
1 at the time of midway all of the land based fighting in Europe was done by the Russians, the only other fighting was bombing missions over Germany done mostly by British forces at the time with some US forces.
In the pacific war it was not a us only show a large part of the pacific fleet was British and commonwealth ships.
US films are mostly very inaccurate.
Remember the Russians won ww2, they killed more Germans and Japanese than the rest, the USA was terrified of Russia invading Japan that’s why they nuked them.
4:01 Dick Best right into the gut FTW. Massively high stakes and probably the single most dramatic combat moment in the Pacific War, if not all WW2. Imagine seeing this in person 4:46
japan's best actor Hiroshi Abe was here !! I'd like that man
The real Nagumo's actions immediately after the wounding of his carriers contradict the depiction of him in this movie. He switched his flagship to one of the cruisers attached to the Kido Butai and pressed on with the attack. The Battle of Midway was only decided once Yamamoto called it off upon learning of the carriers' destruction.
What's really interesting is how quick it was over. In the blink of an eye you lose three carriers and go from the dominant power in the Pacific to on your heels for the rest of the war.
3:02 was my first time to hear a zero sounding like a c172 skyhawk
Most single engine prop planes will sound like that when the engine is stressed... it is just more common in a 172 because you are close to full RPMs all the time
😂 This made my day
@Spencer Kurth, Yeah... Nah, Grand Caravan and Pilatus Porter actually sounds like a jet plane.
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This is such a good video. I'd love more well made WW2 movies from other perspectives. Not corny, over-the-top propaganda, special effects demonstrations, lol. Just good stories, realistic delivery, accurate to history, and from other countries.
Where can I find the full movie
Actually the movie itself rather glorifies, almost deifies, Yamamoto. It's a decent film but hardly unbiased or completely historically accurate.
@@NealX_Gamingwhat is the name of the movie
@@hercegovac9999 Look description
@@GaleGummola thanks
Wow, I guess the Japanese can get the events of Midway wrong as well as the much older American Battle of Midway movie. This one has a lot of things wrong with it - the Japanese WERE NOT on the verge of launching any attack when the US dive bombers took out the three carriers shown here - they needed at least another half hour to 45 minutes to do that. Nor did the Japanese somehow magically know when the US squadrons were due to attack. This scene is clearly meant to suggest that the Japanese lost the battle through either bad luck or the stupid decisions of the admiral in charge. That was, in fact, not the case - the Japanese lost thanks to a number of fundamental deficiencies in Naval doctrine and attitude that were to plague the Imperial Navy all through the war.
Since it was Japanese scholars who first discovered that the quasi-mythical version of the Battle postulated by Fuchida and other military memoirs in fact contained a lot of fiction I doubt that historians in Japan considered this film all that accurate if the scene here is any indication of its supposed historicity!
Ranillon
I can't speak of all the details, but the scene does carry the essence of the situation. The Japanese were equipping their planes for an attack on Midway. Suddenly, they became aware of an American Carrier, spotted b a Japanese Scout, that, according to the Japanese plan, was not supposed to be there. Once they were aware of the Carrier, they knew they could expect an attack from the Americans. This scene portrays the impact of that discovery on Nagumo and his decision. It was a pure WTF moment for him.
TangomanX2008 Sure, it is broadly correct in that the Japanese were at Midway and did learn such things, but the details I point out are important. The version shown here, which is the one that members of the military after the war offered as a subtly fraudulent version of the details, is meant to make the Imperial Navy look as good as possible without actually telling obvious lies.
A prime example is Mitsuo Funchida who offered this scene of the Japanese carriers full of planes on the verge of launching the great doomsday attack that would flatten the Americans when - shucks darn -- the gods of war turned against them as the US dive bombers arrived just in time to ruin everything.
That "fortune was just against us" story makes the Imperial Fleet look competent and effective with only uncontrollable ill fortune being the cause of their defeat. It even plays into American egos by showing their flyers as being plucky warriors able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat through daring and skill. Problem is that the story is a lie - the Japanese carriers weren't anywhere near close to launching a strike.
Now, point that out and that brings up awkward questions people like Fuchida didn't want being asked like why it was the Navy wasn't better prepared or wasn't able to get a strike going in anything like enough time? The answer lies in FUNDAMENTAL deficiencies in the Imperial Navy of the time that in turn pointed to bad planning, political infighting, admirals like Yamamoto deliberately covering up embarrassing failures, and so forth. Basically, the "winds of fate" version shown in this movie suggests to the viewer that the loss of the battle was for obvious reasons and in doing so nicely leaves the Combined Fleet looking as good as possible considering they still lost.
This may sound like unimportant details, but in fact the implications can be vast. After all, producing an artificially rosy picture could have encouraged a false faith in the military or allowed certain individuals to avoid the consequences of their failures.
Basically, truth should never be compromised merely to cover someone's ass!
Ranillon
I haven't seen the movie, just the scene, so I do not know to what extent or what themes this scene is used to explore major themes related to war, such as heroism, the fog of war, sacrifice, changes of fortune, etc. To what extent this could be done seriously at the battle of midway, that is another question.
I do understand your concerns about the importance of history, but movies (and theater) do take liberties with history, but we are talking about a movie here. Its going to contain oversimplified themes, glossed over and distorted facts, and may coddle its intended audience.
Ranillon
You know, I saw the scene again and it looks pretty legit to me. What changes, and where, would you make to make the scene more accurate?
TangomanX2008
1) It shouldn't show or imply an impending major strike from the Japanese - at the time of the US dive bomber attack there were only a handful of CAP fighters on the carrier's flight decks. Kido Butai was at least a half hour from launching any major attack. This is the biggest error.
2) It shouldn't imply that Yamamoto withheld information from Nagumo (to be fair the scene states that Kido Butai (the carriers) should have picked up the message on enemy movements, but it still implies a mistake was made by not verifying that the info got through. We know that it did, but Nagumo didn't act on it for whatever reason). The intelligence was also less direct than what is implied here (maybe its clearer in the full scene from start to finish).
3) Finally, the Hiryu bridge crew shouldn't count the minutes before the expected US attack. The Japanese had no clue when the dive bombers were going to show up (a torpedo squadron also showed up at the same time, but made an ineffectual attack on the Hiryu which is why it survived for the moment).
That camera pan to see 3 IJN carriers in flame is so simple, yet such a great scene.
shit happens especially when your codes have been broken, and you don't know it.
@David Boson, It would be interesting had the Japanese and German codes not been broken but I still think the ending would have been the same. Demographics, logistics, geography and of course secure communications rule. Sun Tzu and Carl von Clausewitz wrote about war and the Japanese and Germans seem not to have studied the information. Indeed, they likely would not have gone to war had they really understood the facts.
@@WJack97224 ohh really germany were so advance in terms of tanks planes ships stc uk bissmark that thing scared the british like hell that they just send half of their navy to destroy single bismark and you are saying they are better....
@@dota2gamer469, Read The Art of War by Sun Tzu and then study Claus von Clausewtiz's notices. You have missed the point: might does not make right; immorality will be punished.
@@WJack97224 well i will read those..
The codes weren't fully broken at this point, it took alot of guess work and luck for Midway to happen.
I can see the midway from my front yard, it's parked in the San Diego naval base...but now it's a museum
Reading an interesting book written by an IJN officer who was a successful destroyer skipper that was transferred to a training school. He wrote there was of course the supply problem, but a bigger problem was the IJN high command had largely never seen combat and made unrealistic strategic decisions.
Yamamoto knew the inevitable outcome of an all out war with the US-but his country called upon his services and he did the best job he could even though he knew the war would end in disaster for Japan.
this is so false, they had probably one of the best naval combat experiences for any navy at the time, after the russo japanese war the japanese navy got a lot of experienced, and yamamoto himself was a veteran from that war as well as many other naval high command personnel.
You could say that they didnt have experience with carrier battles, but no one had. let me remind you that ww2 is the first war where carriers where used, they were a very new technoligy and a perfect doctrine hadnt been made for them yet.
The kido butai was probably the most experienced carrier forces at that time.
@Janoa Caster That war was fought in 1905, 35 years before Pearl Harbor. Most senior Japanese officers were very junior or not even in the Navy at that time. In actuality, very few Japanese officers were combat veterans when the war started. Yamamoto may have served in that war, but most other senior officers did not. The war in China was mostly an aviation war as China had no Navy. What Japan did have was total military control and intensively trained personnel. However, their pilot training program was never designed to replace the losses they suffered in the first year of the war. From late 1942, the Japanese pilots were becoming less and less trained each month. Additionally, Japanese aircraft never could keep pace with the Allied aircraft they were now facing. Every type of aircraft the Japanese faced in combat was replaced by a faster, more powerful replacement. The same applies to ship types as well; Essex class carriers, 3 classes of fast battleships, Baltimore class heavy cruisers, Cleveland class light cruisers, Independence class light carriers, 175 Fletcher class destroyers, 70 Allen M. Sumner class destroyers, 105 Gearing class destroyers just to mention a few. The U.S Navy was not any better, probably even worse at the beginning of the war.
@@patrickmccrann991 IJN: _spends decades building a fleet meticulously calculated to destroy the USN in two decisive battles, then wipes out the majority of the USN's on-paper combat strength in a single attack_
USN: _reinvents naval warfare to make most of their losses irrelevant, ctrl-z's the destroyed battleships back into existence, and replaces their losses so hard they set multiple records for "most produced [ship type]" in under 5 years, all while only using 10% of their power_
Japanese command: “The Americans are arriving simultaneously from all 4 sides! We cannot possibly defend these unorthodox vectors! They are exercising some of the best coordination we have ever seen!”
Americans: “I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOIN- OH LOOK A SHIP!”
I could really relate to that helpless moment at 4:55. You're watching a complete disaster and there's nothing you can do.
Admiral Chuichi Nagumo was held responsible for this loss. He committed Seppuku on Saipan in 1944.
No, he shot himself in the head.
blond knight Thank you. You are correct! I am becoming forgetful. Admiral Nagumo, like Tojo, did not have the honor nor the courage to commit Seppuku.
I thought Nagumo was shot down by a P-38.
You're thinking of Yamamoto.
blond knight Ah, okay.
Lt. Cmdr. Rochefort: We've already won a great victory, Admiral. Maybe we oughta get our people out of there.
Admiral Nimitz: You mean... break off, run for home?
Lt. Cmdr. Rochefort: Before they can hurt us again. Yes, sir.
Admiral Nimitz: Well, that might be the smart play, Commander. Trouble is, I *want* that fourth carrier.
And the Initiative was with Chester. He seized it. Or did God give it to him? That battle saved the U.S. from disaster. What a terrible loss of life all around though. One wonders why . .
@@happysawfish how did The Battle of Midway save the US from disaster? In every possible way the attack on Midway Atoll it was a low percentage roll of the dice by the Japanese with little risk to American aircraft carriers even if they had stayed in Pearl Harbor. That the Americans had already laid a trap by use of the false "low on fresh water" misinformation test, simply enforced how low that percentage truly was.
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@@ivanjulian2532 Well the Japanese taking Midway would strategically have been quite a blow. They would have unsinkable airbase in range of Pearl Harbor and would set back the American war effort dramatically.
And in a long-term sense, Japan's decisive defeat at Midway helped shorten the war by God knows how long. A draw or defeat for the US could have meant the war in the Pacific dragging on into 1946, which would've meant Soviet involvement and likely the splitting of Japan, Korea/Germany-style.
@@Midironica They would have had a devil of time keeping Midway supplied and defended. In the long run it would have been more of a burden than a blessing.
Yamamoto, having studied at Harvard and had been naval attache to the USA in 1919-1923, warned the Imperial High Command they had 6 mos. and then this giant (USA) would come back at them. Even accounting for the era it occurred (20th century) Midway is considered to be the most devastating loss in the history of naval combat.
The Armada was a much bigger loss, killed more people (20,000), lost 73/130 ships and bankrupted Spain in the process.
@@JB-yb4wn I agree with you
General Tamon Yamaguchi is one of the most admirable naval general in WWII, I think.
He is an admiral, not a general and he is overrated.
This was the MOST decisive and Shattering Victory in the Pacific War and Top 3-5 in Navel Warfare History. Imperial Japan literally lost WW2 in a Span of 5-10 Minute's just 6-7 Month's after starting it. I've ALWAYS wanted Hollywood to remake this Epic Battle, Yamamoto was right in promising "Only being able to run Wild in the Pacific for 6 Month's to maybe a Yr."
navel.. lol
America break the japanese code , the america carrier were waitting for the japanese, the japanese has no chance.
Uh no, The Shattering Victory was the Battle of Leyte Gulf which completely obliterated the IJN's ability to wage war in anyway shape or form.
What would you call the movie made in 1976 starring Henry Fonda,Charlton Heston,James Coburn,Hal Holbrook, Glenn Ford and Tom Selick????? they even used SENSURROUND
except Kursk basically turned the entire War around, not just the pacific.
I always think it's incredible that the USA, at the same time they were invading Europe, was able to fight and win a war with an established naval power, Japan, on the other side of the world. Really shows how America became a superpower in this period.
@IJN Yamato let's just say the allied alliance won they didn't win by themselves it was their team work.
US territory and industry were out of danger. In 1942-1945, most of German forces were on the Eastearn Front against USSR, and Japan held most of its infantry in the mainland against China and the British in Myanmar, elite army KantôGun was in Manchuria to counter a soviet attack
Russians did most of them work in the eastern front. That's what defeated the Germans for the most part.
IJN Yamato Commonwealth did quite poorly in the Pacific
@@nadohawk The Royal Navy and Commonwealth forces in the Pacific came after the more important battle of the Atlantic was over (May or even June 1945); there was little time left to make much of a mark before August 1945.
But the Royal Navy, Australian Navy and so on were there until the end, a task force within the huge allied effort to defeat Japan.
the special effect is very realistic in this movie, even better than Midway 2019.
Right. It's CGI, but, it's not a "CGI-fest." That is the flaw with Midway (2019).
I do not know if those ships are CGI or Models, but either way I love when WW2 movies actually depict the ships that were there. Tora Tora Tora did a decent job of this as well.
Micheal Bay's 'Pearl Harbor' However you see modern era ships being bombed and B-24s taking off from a Modern Carrier. With the budget he had, you'll think he'd have done a better job depicting WW2 area vessels.
This movie, while beautifully made, complete revised history by not mentioning or showing Emperor Hirohito at all. The Emperor is the reason (or excuse) why the whole nation was ready to commit suicide in his name, yet they replace his name with "Japan" and picture with Hitler and Mussolini (in a poster) with one of the Generals.
Imagine if Germany made a movie or Italy showing the 3 Heads of State in the Axis but without Hitler or Mussolini? Like wtf?!!
+at1212 b Aye. The Emperor of Japan has been nothing more than a figurehead and a political tool for others since the Warring States Era. Back then the warlords were the one exacting power in his name and his WWII descendant was no different. Sure has a say on what goes on in the country but the final say lies in the military that had taken over the government. Dreadful time it was letting generals think what's best for the country.
***** Looks like you haven't seen the movie. There is NO reference to the Emperor,.. including a famous poster that IN REAL LIFE originally had Hirohito, Hitler and Mussolini. IN the MOVIE, Hirohito is not in that poster, and they refer to "FIGHT FOR JAPAN" in the movie instead of 'FIGHT FOR THE EMPEROR" that was used to motivate the soldier and nation in real life.
+at1212 b I believe that was Tojo?
he didn't have control of his military and never met Hitler . his own people never even heard his voice.
diane moore Doesn't change the fact that his name and existence was used..
IN Real Life: "We must fight to the death for the Glory of the EMPEROR".
IN the Movie: "We must fight to the death for the Glory of JAPAN"
You sound like a Japanese sympathetic revisionist.
NANI?
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我コレヨリ航空戦ノ指揮ヲ執ル
Just like in JoJos
kome yaro!
Kansei dorifuto?!
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Probably the worst mistake out of all of this is something never mentioned: Having those carriers so close in the first place... Hiryu managed to survive the first attack because she was several miles away. If the carriers were spread out, the outcome would have been much much much much different... Never mind that they screwed up in the minutes pointed out in this clip, they could have made up for it later if one carrier was destroyed but due to the carriers being spread out, the other three survived to carry on the battle....
They were trying to approach Midway under radio silence. Back then all communications between ships needed to be via flags or lights and they needed to see each other to follow. Likewise, most ships stayed relatively close to that AAA guns and patrol fighters could cover each other and so that torpedo bombers didn't have such easy drop lines towards the carriers. Aircraft at 20,000 feet could easily see five to ten miles so if you spread out too much, you increase the chance you'll be seen and make it harder for individual carriers to fend off attacks.
@@BW022 i must commend your determination for informing a 5-year-old comment
To be fair if they were more spread out maybe Hornets air group would have done something productive in the battle.
@@scottl9660 Maybe lol
Imperial Japanese navy was probably not worried about sub attacks as they thought they would have the surprise element. But sub were another reason ww2 ships tended to stay closer together easier for the escorts to defend them
The first attack was torpedo and dive bombers aircraft from Midway, second was B-17 from Midway attacking from high altitude way above the the Japanese fighters. The third attack was by unescorted Avenger torpedo bombers. The first and third waves drew down the IJN combat air patrol to the deck. The dive bombers approached and attacked from medium altitude nearly unopposed. Akagi and Kaga were hit as was Soryu.
The torpedo planes were Devastators, not Avengers, which were deployed later to carriers squadrons.
@@rikk319 Early arrivals of Avengers also took off from Midway Island.
Let's not forget the four B-26 Marauders, each carrying a torpedo. Two were shot down, & one of these tried to crash into the Akagi. The other 2 barely made it back to Midway. One of the 2 that returned to Midway flew, at low level, over the Akagi's flight deck.
wrong about drawing down the CAP...dive bombers attacked 20 min later....more than enough time for the zeros to climb back up
The whistling noise the bombs made while being dropped was actually the bombs themselves screaming 'MURICA as they fell.... True story.
Kiyoshikii I always thought they were saying "Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee- DOM!"
i thought it was giving the classical bald eagle screech
France= "We surrender"
UK= "Get some tea motherfuckers"
USSR= "UUUUrraaaahh"
Finland= "We have bombs?"
Kiyoshikii hell yeah🇺🇸🇺🇸!!!!!!
I would recommend Parshall and Tully's "Shattered Sword" as a definitive history of the battle. It removes the American victory from the realm of the "truly miraculous" to the realm of victory due to aggressive, competent leadership emboldened by faith in the men they led.
well some parts were miraculous, like Dick Best pulling out of his dive and Hiting Akagi instead of Kaga
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Shattered Sword is an amazing book.
the americans staggering their waves of dive bombers, torpedo planes and high altitude bombers essentially won them the battle. the japanese fighters had to stay in the air constantly to fight off waves of attacks and they were distracted/ran out of gas just as the enterprise's dive bombers dropped out of the clouds and hit 3 of their carriers.
the early waves of attacks were utterly decimated by japanese fighters and flak with few survivors. but their lives were given so that the final wave could make an unchallenged attack run
@@InTecknicolour it was not done on purpose, it just happened that way. There was almost a hour between the Torpedo planes attacking and the Dive bombers coming in.
3:39 The way he says Full Starboard is so satisfying
This battle gave the United States the initiative in the Pacific much faster than waiting for the overwhelming wartime industrial productivity to come into play. Japan was only ever able to enjoy early success of surprise on a peaceful nation unprepared for war. The most surprising thing is Japan knew before they started the war that they could not win it.They foolishly thought we would rather let them keep the areas conquered then go to war. As was the case in all of WWII nations made poor assumptions of each other and based military action on them. To think the men in charge of nations would act so foolishly this far in human development is astonishing even in events of today.
Well when u believe u r in the protection of divine wind, u tend believe anything is possiblr.
don't think highly of yourself cause Japan was a small country. now it's china's turn. let's see if USA has gutta. your not going to bully them around.
don't think highly of yourself cause Japan was a small country. now it's china's turn. let's see if USA has gutta. your not going to bully them around.
The size of a country does not matter, at least not as much as it used to. There are so many other factors that contribute to a countries military strength that to say the amount of land it controls is the determining factor in a conflict is naive.
You're pretty dumb to be saying shit like that. Japan got lucky on one aspect. We ran short of nukes, The next ones would have fallen on Tokyo. which wouldn't have hurt my feelings at all.
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The soundtrack accompanying the moments of raids on the Japanese carriers is utterly impressive... it was a critical minutes when just a handful of American bomb divers ended every thing and decide the fate of the pacific war . Although I think that it was better for the humanity that USA won the war but I can’t refrain myself from some kind of empathy with Japanese who lost everything in just minutes! That was ultimately destructive.
Even if Midway had not happened, the US would still have defeated Japan.
In fact, Midway wasn't even decisive in that it destroyed IJN carrier forces...after the Battle of Santa Cruz, the USN was down to one damaged CV still in the Pacific, while the IJN still had multiple CVs.
What Midway did, however, was destroy the overwhelming advantage the Japanese possessed in an intact 6 CV squadron (Kido Butai). Without those 4 CVs, the Japanese were drawn into an attritional battle with the USN that it could not hope to win. Because by mid-1943, the Americans would replace all of their losses with better CVs. While Japan never could really replace ANY of their losses with even equivalently powerful ships.
Midway abruptly ended the ability of the IJN to confidently sail their death star strike weapon into any waters and be assured of local air superiority for a few days.
@@dclark142002 In short, the Japanese should’ve stopped at Manchuria in 1931
"...some kind of empathy with Japanese" Say that to the residents of Nanking, or in fact anywhere the Japanese conquered. Korea comes to mind. Add that to how the Japanese teach about WWII today and repeat that phrase.
True, I'm curious to know how the Germans and Italians teach about the second war.
Very well made movie. The actor who acted as Yamamoto made a good work as well.
5:06 I lobe how the trumpets sound when the music ends
演技とはいえ5:00付近の南雲中将のやっちゃった感が凄い。
大祐 俳優さんってすごいよね
この映画の南雲は凄いよかった
この映画、永野修身と南雲忠一を無能扱いしてるのがなぁ、、、
山本五十六主役だからって永野修身なんてまるで山本の行動を妨害する悪役上司みたいになっとるし
When you think about it deeply, it's hard to blame Nagumo or any of the Japanese commanders. We Americans did what we should and sprang a trap on them. The tragedy is that the senseless war between two people who share so much had to happen in the first place.
The only mistake the Japanese did was attacking Pearl Harbor and thuse bringing the US in the war. Yamamoto knew how horrifically dumb this was but no one else listen to him.
Senseless war? Tell that to the thousands of Koreans, Filipinos, and Southeast Asians who were enslaved and raped by the Imperial Japanese military. Also, tell that to the Chinese after what the Japanese did to them after the Rape of Nanking.
@@Adam-mj5hl it was a senseless war. It was utter nationalist imperialist folly that led the Japanese to commit horrible acts of war. Nanking was senseless. Attacking the Korea and the US was senseless. It was a senselessly violent, cruel, destructive war.
@@Papershields001 Yes, but my point was that the United States’ involvement in WW2 was not senseless. The US were not aggressors. It was the unchecked Imperial Japanese government’s bloodthirst for nationalistic expansion that caused some of the most gruesome atrocities in modern history. The US simply responded in DEFENSE to Japanese aggression.
@@Adam-mj5hl I fail to see the relevance of your statement. I was never indicting the allied reaction as senseless.
I’ve spent a lot of time in Japan, I was in Tokyo just this last month. Many of my families closest friends are Japanese. Being an American in Japan today you get a sense of the madness that World War Two must have been. It was crazy for the two peoples of Americans and Japanese to ever have gone to war with each other. What the Japanese militarists did was senseless. It led to untold loss of life and unimaginable suffering. Men of sense would never have done it. It was a SENSELESS waste of life.
I don’t know what modern American Nationalist impulse made you think I was criticizing the motivations of the United States and forgiving Japanese atrocities, but I wasn’t.
This move is way better than the American “Midway” movie from a few years back
Agreed
you talking about the new one or the old one
@@russianarmy-rh2wi I’m guessing the cheesey new one. The older films are good.
Two different systems where one side was " locked in" to custom and formality and the other trusting training men to make the best decisions based upon training.
the depiction of the Battle of Midway here is much accurate than Midway (2019)
not sure I agree. Although the Japanese did spin the tale for many years that they were just moments away from launching their attack on the American carriers when the USN dive bombers came in, this has been shown to be false. Any IJN planes on the decks were CAP fighters not strike force. (ref. "Shattered Sword")
He did say "much accurate than" not perfectly accurate, and I agree with him. I felt I was watching a damn videogame cutscene when watching Midway 2019, a totally unrealistic despiction of the battle regarless of showing or not stuff like only CAP fighters on the flight decks and so on.
@@battousaihimura7853 haha he focused more on the action scenes not on the background story🤭😂
En los tres minutos en que fueron tocados de muerte los portaaviones Akagi, Kaga y Soryuu, Japón perdió la guerra, no sólo por los buques, sino por la cantidad enorme de experimentados pilotos navales que murieron.
Cierto, tomaba demasiado tiempo entrenarlos para que tuviesen esa eficiencia y al bajar los requisitos para tener más pilotos, los que entrenaron no tenían la misma percia.
The Japanese planes at Midway did not have any voice radios, they usually only worked on reception and with Morse code. And due to the lack of radars, the Japanese could not have any messages about any incoming enemy planes, they responded only visually.
Looks to be a great movie. Cannot wait until I get my hands on it!
It does look great! May I ask....when was this made? I can't find any info.
+Folma7 4 years ago, it's from 2011.
White Knight Of the Internet what is the name of this movie?
This is one of the top 3 WW2 movies I’ve seen. Definitely the best from Japan’s perspective. Admiral Yamamoto was a very good man. He desperately wanted to avoid war, even risking assassination attacks to do so.
Umm, he was a war criminal who gave orders for crews of merchant ships to be killed by Japanese submarines and later surface ships. He would have been hanged had he not been bushwacked.
You should check out Isoroku Yamamoto from 2011-great film!
During the war-gaming by the Japanese prior to the Midway attack, the red team (USA) devastated the blue team (Japan) by surprising the Japanese carrier fleet with American carriers place north of Midway. The rules of the exercise were then changed to prevent such an outcome. It is hard to believe how accurately that first Japanese war-game predicted the actual battle of Midway.
所以說是天滅日本，它兵棋推演出來也不用，還是去送死！
Yes they told the officer that the Americans would never deploy there
For a movie that worked on half the budget of giant hollywood movies the CGI (Computer Generated Graphics) are amazing, The Dive bomber scene and defense machine guns shooting, Bad ass movie with great perspective outside of American stories.
We broke their code which was a huge advantage. The Japanese had no idea that the American carriers were waiting for them. Still, there was a whole lot of luck with many brave sailors and airmen involved. What a battle it was.
Don't forget the marines on Midway. They were, technically, the bait.
Lots of mistakes on both sides.
At 2:14 the two ships shown are Akagi bottom and Hiryu top is wrong. The Hiryu was out front, trailing behind Hiryu was Soryu then Akagi and slowest of the four carriers Kaga was bringing up the rear. At 3:34 a lookout aboard Akagi shouts into the voice tube "planes overhead dive bombing" Is wrong. The Akagi was blissfully unaware that she was under dive bomber attack. The Hiryu saw this happening signaled via the ships light a warning to Akagi but no one knows if Akagi received that message. At 4:03 there were no planes on deck as reported by pilot Richard Best and Akagi was not under evasive maneuvers because she wasn't even aware she was under attack. The single and only bomb hit on Akagi was by pilot Richard (Dick) Best. Later that day he planted a second bomb hit on Hiryu. At 5:08 is Akagi destroyed by a single bomb hit. Next is dead in water Kaga destroyed by three bomb hits. The first hit was by pilot Norman Jack (Dusty) Kleiss who later that day planted a second bomb on Hiryu and the next day a third bomb hit on the cruiser Mikuma. Lastly the shattered Soryu who suffered four (maybe even five) bomb hits. Some say the Americans got lucky at Midway but I disagree. Norman Jack (Dusty) Kleiss in his book Never Call Me a Hero states that luck had nothing to with victory. He said their success was from their training, skill, dedication and devotion to duty is what won the battle.
Frankly, Yamaguchi should have swallowed his pride and booked it out of there once he realized his was the only carrier still afloat.
4:35 love how it shows the Japanese pilot running out of ammo while chasing an American plane. They just didn’t have enough time to completely land, rearm everything and takeoff again
so many brave sailors and airmen. it always strikes me when I watch this movie how many good men participated on both sides.
***** I am aware. that doesn't mean these men weren't brave. I understand the Japanese culture to be of a cult like at that time in history. I am certainly no expert but I understand the Japanese have made significant changes to their societal structure as a result of WW2...I think.
***** define coward.
one of the best WW2 movies so far. Absolutely true to the real facts
It wasn't "absolutely" true to real facts. It completely omitted the massacre of the unescorted torpedo bombers, which resulted in the Japanese fighters being at low altitude and without fuel and ammo. This left the carriers vulnerable to the unopposed dive bombers.
wrong..thats a myth. dive bombers showed up 20 min later..more than enough time for the CAP to climb back to alt@@timothyhouse1622
It's sad that a movie so well done ( effects and editing are quite good) would have so many errors. As mentioned in the comment below, historical research (originally in Japan and followed up by US) has now shown that the Japanese were not "just about" to launch a strike. They were busy recovering and launching their CAP which was running out of 20mm ammo shooting down American torpedo planes from Midway and from the U.S. Fleet. Nagumo lost the battle army that day when he lost the scouting battle and the U.S. Found his fleet first. From then on he was on the defensive and the odds then caught up with him. This doesn't diminish the heroism and sacrifice made on both sides. The poor Japanese handling of munitions under great stress and poor damage control also contributed. They are not the first to make at least the first mistake as poor British handling of munitions cost them several cruisers at Jutland.
He probably lost it when they went in and did not realize 3 enemy aircraft carriers and Midway airfield were all waiting and prepared for the Kido Butai
@@Jake-fy1pn He had four carriers with the best Naval Aviators on the planet. If they had found the US first it would have been dicey. All the planes from Midway missed so it’s the US carriers that did the damage and timing played a big part.
There are very few single moments i, history that have monumental change but this is one of them
ミッドウェー後の南雲の心中を想像するだけでエグイ
敗戦責任者候補だとずっと思ってました
@@Googleユーザー-v5h 結果的に正攻法で攻撃しようとした南雲も、間違いではないんですけどね。
こんな失敗をしても日本では上級国民はお咎め無し。
敵空母発見に備えて用意していた対艦攻撃部隊を陸攻撃用に換装を具申した源田実が戦犯。
南雲提督や現田参謀も死ぬかもしれない危険な現場で指揮を、取っていた実際赤城は、飛弾して沈没してる
牟田口将軍よりは、マシでは？
By Midway everyone knew that Carriers had replaced battleships as the power of the seas. The war would come down to who had the most carriers. Japan built something like 12 carriers of all sizes during the war, the US built something like 70.
+Aaron Paul 86 were in service at the end of the war.
+Aaron Paul What really doomed the Japanese was that their High Command came to the same conclusion but far too late, only after Midway. They quickly attempted to build new carriers by giving them the highest priority and taking shortcuts converting some cruisers and even the then under construction Super Battleship Shinano, but Japan simply lacked the domestic raw materials and shear industrial capacity of the US had. Early in the war its overseas supply line remained relatively intact but after the US fixed its little torpedo problem in 1943 (actually a HUGE scandalous problem), Japan found its raw material supply chain suddenly being choked off with a ruthless efficiency. They simply ran out of steel to build ships with by the end of 1944.
KlunkerRider High command, I think knew the importance of carriers, but underestimated the scale that that US would use them. The goal of pearl harbor and midway was to destroy the american carriers, so they knew that it was carriers who ruled the seas. You are right about the torpedo issue, kinda amazing what to look to convince the brass that americans didnt just suck at marksmanship.
+Aaron Paul they had 25 carriers and the USA only had 27 carriers so i don't see how these numbers you got match and the USA just by midway had learned from their enemy as at the start of the war japan was winning until America realized what to do.
josh kidd In total, the japanese had 15 Fleet Carriers, 5 light and 5 escort carriers, including other ships converted. The US started the war with 7, but built 24 essex class and 9 independence class carrier during the war. Giving them a total of 40 that served. Japan started the war with 10 carriers, meaning that 15 were build during the war, compared to 33 american carriers built. Of the japanese carriers, all of the prewar carriers were confined by the washington naval treaty, and many of those built during the war were converted. I apologize for my original numbers, i was too lazy to do research and commented from memory. It was not accurate but the point remains. America built more carriers during the war than the japanese had in total. by a wide margin.
La batalla naval de Midway representa el mejor ejemplo del uso de una posición de expectativa para esperar y derrotar a una fuerza enemiga superior, pero desprevenida.
I recall reading or seeing somewhere that the big Rising Sun national emblem painted on the JIN carrier flight decks was an excellent aiming point for USN aircraft.
ミッドウェー海戦時の日本4空母の甲板には日の丸描いといてほしい。
それは確かにそこにあるはずです。
Bullseye 🎯
Wow, these effects are not bad. I'll need to watch this whole movie.
Two inaccuracies here:
a) When the divebombers attacked the Japanese carriers, there were no planes on the flight decks. Except for Zeros flying CAP, all the planes were in the hanger decks being refueled and rearmed.
b) For some reason, there is nothing in this clip about the first attack by three squadrons of TBD Devastators, which lost almost all their planes but which forced the Japanese out of formation, caused all the Zeroes to cluster in one location, and pulled them down too low to confront the dive-bombers.
Charles Larrivee- Another inaccuracy in the Film is at the begining it says that the Invasion force was 2,000 men, when it was 5,000.
4:03 実際は､飛行甲板に攻撃部隊の艦載機は出せていなかったみたいです。攻撃を受けた際､まだ格納庫で魚雷の搭載を艦載機にしていたそうです。
Naval warfare is scary.
They didn't even show the sinking parts. that and being in a plane with nowhere to land is scary as hell
They didn't even show the sinking parts. that and being in a plane with nowhere to land is scary as hell
Brady Lyter There was a fourth Japanese carrier.
Yeah, you think you've got it made compared to the grunts, you're in an indoor bed every night, enough food, and then suddenly you and thousands of other men burn to death, or drown, or are eaten by sharks.
@@rutabagasteu Hiryū was a quite small by fleet carrier standards so she couldn't handle them all
The astonishing thing about the USA-Japan War is that barely ten years later every American wanted a Japanese motorbike and every Japanese loved Elvis.
Communism was a greater enemy and threat that required the world to banned together to resist it.
This is my favorite anime
The description of this battle was absolutely terrific in Herman Wouk's book, "War and Remembrance."
*But did Wouk point out China timely alerted FDR a Full 48-hour ahead of the Sneak Attack of Pearl??????????*