I did enjoy this,found it useful BUT, your method is kind of sloppy. 1. With the Glue in Stove Jack kit, you would be better off the coat all but the heat resistant Hole with the Glue. Then cut your ring in the canvas the same size as the Heat resistant ring, and add a second Jack kit on the inside, and do the same, this will seal every thing, and give you 2 flaps to close to keep the bugs out when not using the stove. It also keeps the Canvas from tearing. 2. The sew in patch use the glue on that as well and use 2 of them, one inside and one outside. (I use a glue roller to take out the wrinkles and seal the glue.) 3. On ANYTHING that is not CANVAS, make sure it is treated for HEAT, Nylon tents often are not, and this can become a serious fire hazard. AND you should always have something between the back of the stove and the Canvas, the heat from the stove can make the Canvas brittle. I have done this on Canvas wall tents, when I decided to move the stove jack to a different location, The way I did it lasted over 10 years.
Nice job showing different options. For many years when I need to put a hole in canvas, nylon cordura etc i use a round tip soldering iron. This seals the hole for fraying and I never have to worry about cutting a hole to big.
I have a Teton Mesa canvas tent and installed a canvas stove jack on a wall. Tried using tear mender, but had issues with it as an adhesive. I ended up using an outdoor water resistant canvas repair tape, which was mess free and easy to apply. I overlapped the tape for a better weather seal. So far no issues and the canvas tape seems to be strong and adhering well. Minus the cost of the tear mender, it cost me about $60.00 for the stove jack and a couple of rolls of the canvas tape. Your video was very informative.
Pro tip, use plinking shears to cut canvas and it will stop the material from fraying, these are the same shears people use when tailoring clothing then you can sew the edges over and inward to the tent so it looks a lot nicer, doing this will make sure it never frays, then you can hit the cancas with some silicone and white spirit mixture to seal it forever
Good reviews and ideas. Couldn't come at better time. I have a synthetic teepee 16' in diameter. I have a Winnerwell like yours, but it's too small for the size of tent. So I purchased yesterday, a conventional camp metal stove, 5" pipe, which reduces to 4" (nesting). The top of my teepee is constructed like a historical teepee, with flaps controlled by ropes. I guess I'll be on the hunt for a Winnerwell type heat protector to go straight up, the 11.5 feet to the top and higher so sparks hopefully are dead by then, and/or spark arrestor. Cheers
Hi, very interesting video. I have a tent with a pre-made stove jack. In your opinion, for extra security, can I also install the flashing kit inside the hole of the pre-made stove jack? I have an Oxford 900d tent. Thanks
Great video! Can rain water enter through holes in the heat shield on the stove pipe? Looks like it would be able to come through hole and drip down into the tent
It could come in through that hole if it's raining hard. But in my experience, if you put the stove jack on the wall it's not a big problem. And when. It comes in onto the stove itself it burns off into vapor right away from the heat of the stove as long as it's running. Could be a problem in some situations, but preventable if you use one of those silicone flanges.
I am looking at the glue on method, with a cut to fit hole stove jack. I noticed on some of the installs there is considerable gap between the jack and the stove pipe. Is this desired, or more prone to water and bugs coming in your tent... especially during the day where the stove may not be in use... or at night in a rain storm
I wouldn't necessarily say the gap is desired, but it's sort of a side effect of the pre-made jacks not being made specifically for everyone's stove pipes. I also would argue it's not a huge deal, even in rain or snow. In my experience, it doesn't let a tone in, and most of it evaporates off from the heat of the stove pipe before it ever pools up in the tent. You could add one of those silicone flashing kits to this to get a tight seal.
Your experience installing the various types of stove jacks is very helpful, but I notice that you have not attached any wires to the stovepipe to secure them from blowing over or coming apart in a windstorm, and I know that can be an issue. Can you address this issue?
A couple thoughts. 1. For this video I wasn't actually camping, I just did the stove jack work and set up the stove for demonstration so I didn't bother with securing the chimney. 2. Indeed guy lines for the chimney are a good idea in really windy weather or for extended campouts. 3. I rarely actually do that because it's a hassle and kids trip on the guy lines and the stoves I have are pretty darn secure even in 40mph gusts. But that's just me.
Probably that last one I called the minimalist method. You'd just want to match the right kind of adhesive for your tarp material. You could also run one seam along the top or in the corners to reinforce it. Just make sure you seal them up with seam tape or some kind of sealant. Good luck!
Interesting, but..... #2 SEW IN That won't last long. ANd what;s that crap at 7:54??? Come on! This is a long term mod, so why doing it on the cheap with shortcuts???? You need to fold all 4 sides then do the stiching. Also, why using a knife to make the hole???? Last, trace the template on the tent while mounted, but do NOT do the stiching until the canvas is flat on a table or the ground. #3 GLUE IN It's simple, don't use that methode. #4 NO HOLE Stay away from that if you care about your tent and safety. #5 MINIMALIST Again, not good. One final word: You can buy a pre-made stove jacket (the one with the flap is great), but you can also use a piece of welder blanket. Just go to a welder ask if he/she has an old one still good to use, or buy it new at your local hardware store.
Got questions about my methods? 👇 Ask them down below and I'll do my best to answer them.
I did enjoy this,found it useful BUT, your method is kind of sloppy. 1. With the Glue in Stove Jack kit, you would be better off the coat all but the heat resistant Hole with the Glue. Then cut your ring in the canvas the same size as the Heat resistant ring, and add a second Jack kit on the inside, and do the same, this will seal every thing, and give you 2 flaps to close to keep the bugs out when not using the stove. It also keeps the Canvas from tearing. 2. The sew in patch use the glue on that as well and use 2 of them, one inside and one outside. (I use a glue roller to take out the wrinkles and seal the glue.) 3. On ANYTHING that is not CANVAS, make sure it is treated for HEAT, Nylon tents often are not, and this can become a serious fire hazard. AND you should always have something between the back of the stove and the Canvas, the heat from the stove can make the Canvas brittle. I have done this on Canvas wall tents, when I decided to move the stove jack to a different location, The way I did it lasted over 10 years.
Nice job showing different options.
For many years when I need to put a hole in canvas, nylon cordura etc i use a round tip soldering iron. This seals the hole for fraying and I never have to worry about cutting a hole to big.
Great tip, that is for sharing!
Great idea
I was planning on cutting a hole in my Teton tomorrow, definitely bringing my soldering iron now. Thanks for the tip. 👍🏻
This is a pretty informative video which, I am sure, took a lot of work on your part. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! And yes, it took at least 3 full days to make a 20 minute video.
I have a Teton Mesa canvas tent and installed a canvas stove jack on a wall. Tried using tear mender, but had issues with it as an adhesive. I ended up using an outdoor water resistant canvas repair tape, which was mess free and easy to apply. I overlapped the tape for a better weather seal. So far no issues and the canvas tape seems to be strong and adhering well. Minus the cost of the tear mender, it cost me about $60.00 for the stove jack and a couple of rolls of the canvas tape. Your video was very informative.
That's awesome! I like your idea of the canvas tape too, sounds easier and less of a mess. Thanks for watching!
Pro tip, use plinking shears to cut canvas and it will stop the material from fraying, these are the same shears people use when tailoring clothing then you can sew the edges over and inward to the tent so it looks a lot nicer, doing this will make sure it never frays, then you can hit the cancas with some silicone and white spirit mixture to seal it forever
Great tip!
Good reviews and ideas. Couldn't come at better time. I have a synthetic teepee 16' in diameter. I have a Winnerwell like yours, but it's too small for the size of tent. So I purchased yesterday, a conventional camp metal stove, 5" pipe, which reduces to 4" (nesting). The top of my teepee is constructed like a historical teepee, with flaps controlled by ropes. I guess I'll be on the hunt for a Winnerwell type heat protector to go straight up, the 11.5 feet to the top and higher so sparks hopefully are dead by then, and/or spark arrestor. Cheers
Wow! That sounds like quite the setup. I'd love to hear how it ends up.
Thanks for sharing
Hi, very interesting video. I have a tent with a pre-made stove jack. In your opinion, for extra security, can I also install the flashing kit inside the hole of the pre-made stove jack? I have an Oxford 900d tent. Thanks
I don't see how it would hurt. It's not 100% necessary, but nice for a secure, water tight seal.
Could you combine options 1 and 2 for a better result?
Not a bad idea.
Great video! Can rain water enter through holes in the heat shield on the stove pipe? Looks like it would be able to come through hole and drip down into the tent
It could come in through that hole if it's raining hard. But in my experience, if you put the stove jack on the wall it's not a big problem. And when. It comes in onto the stove itself it burns off into vapor right away from the heat of the stove as long as it's running. Could be a problem in some situations, but preventable if you use one of those silicone flanges.
@@theoutdoorempire excellent thank you! Love your channel.
when using glue always round off the corners of the patch
That is great advice, thank you.
I am looking at the glue on method, with a cut to fit hole stove jack. I noticed on some of the installs there is considerable gap between the jack and the stove pipe. Is this desired, or more prone to water and bugs coming in your tent... especially during the day where the stove may not be in use... or at night in a rain storm
I wouldn't necessarily say the gap is desired, but it's sort of a side effect of the pre-made jacks not being made specifically for everyone's stove pipes. I also would argue it's not a huge deal, even in rain or snow. In my experience, it doesn't let a tone in, and most of it evaporates off from the heat of the stove pipe before it ever pools up in the tent. You could add one of those silicone flashing kits to this to get a tight seal.
Your experience installing the various types of stove jacks is very helpful, but I notice that you have not attached any wires to the stovepipe to secure them from blowing over or coming apart in a windstorm, and I know that can be an issue. Can you address this issue?
A couple thoughts. 1. For this video I wasn't actually camping, I just did the stove jack work and set up the stove for demonstration so I didn't bother with securing the chimney. 2. Indeed guy lines for the chimney are a good idea in really windy weather or for extended campouts. 3. I rarely actually do that because it's a hassle and kids trip on the guy lines and the stoves I have are pretty darn secure even in 40mph gusts. But that's just me.
What method would you use to put a jack in a synthetic tarp?
Probably that last one I called the minimalist method. You'd just want to match the right kind of adhesive for your tarp material. You could also run one seam along the top or in the corners to reinforce it. Just make sure you seal them up with seam tape or some kind of sealant. Good luck!
🙈 P r o m o S M
Interesting, but.....
#2 SEW IN
That won't last long. ANd what;s that crap at 7:54??? Come on! This is a long term mod, so why doing it on the cheap with shortcuts???? You need to fold all 4 sides then do the stiching. Also, why using a knife to make the hole???? Last, trace the template on the tent while mounted, but do NOT do the stiching until the canvas is flat on a table or the ground.
#3 GLUE IN
It's simple, don't use that methode.
#4 NO HOLE
Stay away from that if you care about your tent and safety.
#5 MINIMALIST
Again, not good.
One final word: You can buy a pre-made stove jacket (the one with the flap is great), but you can also use a piece of welder blanket. Just go to a welder ask if he/she has an old one still good to use, or buy it new at your local hardware store.
Thanks for the feedback and the tips. My examples definitely leave room for improvement. Happy camping!
@@theoutdoorempire This time, they do. But other videos were top #1
Okay well how would you do it smart-guy?
@@GarageGeek ...in a smart way Mr. Not-so-Geek....
@@DiabloOutdoors If you don’t want to say I guess you are the only one who will ever know how clever and smart you are.