Dutch Mantell on if he Ever Got Stiffed on Pay at SMW

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @Ohionortheast
    @Ohionortheast Месяц назад +58

    Jim Cornette does not seem like the type to stiff wrestlers I don’t always agree with his opinions but he seems like a straight up guy

    • @greaves1178
      @greaves1178 Месяц назад

      You'll get paid so long as you stiff his wife!

    • @Jewish.Redneck.Hybrid
      @Jewish.Redneck.Hybrid Месяц назад

      @@Ohionortheast Commie Cornette is well known for stiffing his own mother. He will stiff anyone.

    • @NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
      @NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot Месяц назад

      Same. He’s a typical crazy leftie, but i think he has the pride to pay the guys before he makes a penny

    • @thesupervisor3270
      @thesupervisor3270 Месяц назад +2

      Thank u

    • @mox19380
      @mox19380 Месяц назад

      I've never heard a wrestler say he didn't get paid.

  • @CraigSmithII
    @CraigSmithII Месяц назад +28

    In one of Cornette's podcast episode when he buried Tim Horner, Corny said he had to pay guys out of his pocket because SMW was starting to slow down & Rubin had backed away from the product then

    • @DanaHoltzbert
      @DanaHoltzbert Месяц назад +13

      His rant on Tim Horner is legendary.

    • @CraigSmithII
      @CraigSmithII Месяц назад +10

      @@DanaHoltzbert
      The part when he talked about Horner's wife screaming at him with the baby in her arms in front of the guys was something. When she done that, Horner's time at SMW was over

    • @tomr3422
      @tomr3422 Месяц назад +3

      he wanted to pay the guys that lived in another city and pay horner the next day when the bank opened but horners wife told horner he had to have the money that night. So cornette had to pay him out of his pocket.

  • @TheGrandStrander
    @TheGrandStrander Месяц назад +9

    The Ron Wright angle in the wheelchair back then was Gold. The Gangstas too. Dutch with the cue cards as an announcer to open the show......good stuff. Had to edit, I forgot.....bring back Thunderfoot!

    • @Voysh2Voysh69
      @Voysh2Voysh69 Месяц назад +1

      Tracy Smothers vs Dirty White Boy was amazing. I also loved Brad Armstrong’s run in Smoky Mountain and the Armstrong family vs Cornette’s gang of villains. And Buddy Landell had a good last run as champ in his prime.

  • @tommyfraz.
    @tommyfraz. Месяц назад +12

    I believe Cornette paid wrestlers out of his own pocket at the end, because he didn’t want to screw any of the boys over. When the sale of SMW went through, he essentially broke even after paying out those he owed any money to. Say what you will about Corny, but he wasn’t going to owe anyone money.

    • @gfear24
      @gfear24 Месяц назад

      He repeatedly did it in ROH because Greg the Office Boy kept leaving with the money before the show was over. It's what led to Jim quitting ROH in 2012.

    • @Snt-Berg
      @Snt-Berg Месяц назад

      Jim mentioned an international sale of SMW footage after the company was done helped him break even.

  • @timeschangepress5332
    @timeschangepress5332 Месяц назад +6

    if I correctly remember the story on how cornet and Ruben met and this is from a cornet himself Reuben came to the Omni in Atlanta one day for an nwa show and Ruben's two favorite wrestlers was cornet and Flair

  • @boombringer4078
    @boombringer4078 Месяц назад +2

    Jim strikes me as a stand up guy, he has morals.

  • @MrDoneboy
    @MrDoneboy Месяц назад +9

    The same Rick Rubin that produced Johnny Cash's last albums.

    • @michaelhutton8668
      @michaelhutton8668 Месяц назад +4

      Yes. He was the money man behind SMW

    • @roberthuber7031
      @roberthuber7031 Месяц назад +1

      Yes Sir the very same. He is a music producing legend that I believe started Def Jam Records with Russell Simmons back in his NYU days. He produced across all genres of music from country to the Beastie Boys and Jay Z.

  • @timthegem
    @timthegem Месяц назад +11

    For anyone who isn't familiar with Rick Rubin, he founded Def Jam Records with Russell Simmons and went on to produce some of the biggest albums in music history from numerous genres. It would be like having Steven Spielberg as a backer for your wrestling promotion.

    • @FnRenner
      @FnRenner Месяц назад

      From Spielberg to Weinstein by going to +20 years of Diddy parties lol

    • @christianrapper5
      @christianrapper5 Месяц назад

      I was wondering if that was the same guy.

  • @atlurker8037
    @atlurker8037 Месяц назад +8

    It was his momma's money. Sheesh. Everybody knows momma was rich.

  • @freedompaisley
    @freedompaisley Месяц назад +2

    Rick Ruben did a interview with Jericho a few years ago and he talked about Smoky Mountain and how he became involved in it

  • @gfear24
    @gfear24 Месяц назад +2

    Cornette knows what it's like to get stiffed in pay, that's why he always paid. Hell, he even paid out the ROH talent out of his own pocket when "Greg the office boy" would leave the house shows and TV tapings with the money before the show ended.

  • @ryanvannice7878
    @ryanvannice7878 Месяц назад +5

    Cornette had said that SMW went out not owing anything, outside of maybe a tv station or production company and big amounts. Of course, he's a biased source. Outside of you saying Tommy Rich, i dont recall any wrestlers saying Cornette owed them.

  • @TheRiderInBlack85
    @TheRiderInBlack85 Месяц назад +4

    I’ll give James a lot of credit. I wasn’t alive for a lot of Dutch’s career. However, this podcast has me really interested in about the different territories and federations of the old days!

  • @JimCornetta
    @JimCornetta Месяц назад +3

    Now I want to know the story James!

    • @I_feel_a_little_like
      @I_feel_a_little_like Месяц назад

      Well hey if it's ever the only piece of real estate he owns someday maybe we'll hear it

  • @italion9101
    @italion9101 Месяц назад

    Awesome shirt James.

  • @jd9119
    @jd9119 Месяц назад +1

    Corny said one of the reasons he took the WWF gig was to payback the people that he owed from SMW. And he said it took him a long time.

  • @rp9040
    @rp9040 Месяц назад +1

    Rubin pulled out at some point at the end Jim was flipping the whole bill

  • @TheJDough1
    @TheJDough1 Месяц назад +1

    I heard it was only 20-30 thousand in the hole

  • @Clockworkorangecassidy
    @Clockworkorangecassidy Месяц назад +2

    I think cornette said he got his money back so implies he didnt lose out but didnt make millions either

  • @joesshows6793
    @joesshows6793 Месяц назад

    Now you need to tell the story

  • @Parlimant_Strifey
    @Parlimant_Strifey Месяц назад +1

    Jimmy is the greatest wrasslin fan, he was trying to be Tony Khan before Tony Khan. If only he had bigger pockets to scoop up some of his fave wrasslers. That no good Vince McMahon destroyed the market.

  • @PassivePortfolios
    @PassivePortfolios Месяц назад +1

    A few guys got stiffed by the defunct Florida Championship Wresting when it went broke and Eddie Graham committed suicide.

  • @fixpacifica
    @fixpacifica Месяц назад

    Tell the story!!

  • @Trill_4_Life
    @Trill_4_Life Месяц назад

    Ask Dutch about MECW based out of Nashville, Tn from ‘98-‘00.

  • @davidmiles4678
    @davidmiles4678 Месяц назад

    😂 dang it know I really want to know the story

  • @vibingwithjv5980
    @vibingwithjv5980 Месяц назад

    I thought Rick Rubin was a music producer

    • @jamesoldham9237
      @jamesoldham9237 Месяц назад

      He was but he was the backer and money man behind the scenes

  • @eddieoliver930
    @eddieoliver930 Месяц назад

    Cornette has gloated that when SMW ended he owed nothing to talent unlike Heyman.

  • @cryogenixoldskool5803
    @cryogenixoldskool5803 Месяц назад

    Not with Rick Rubin funding SMW he didn't

  • @TheSlowCyclist330
    @TheSlowCyclist330 Месяц назад

    I have a question for Dutch .Did they really win a million dollars for winning the crocket cup?

  • @krishaymon3245
    @krishaymon3245 Месяц назад

    Corny had to file for bankruptcy because of the collapse of SMW.

  • @Christoffski
    @Christoffski Месяц назад

    Stay humble, James Also that Tommy Rich reach was super weak and unnecessary.

  • @Lantern72
    @Lantern72 Месяц назад

    😂😂😂

  • @FIXTREME
    @FIXTREME Месяц назад

    NEXT WEEK
    🧔🏼: "......I met Rick Rubin ONE time.☝️"
    THE WEEK AFTER THAT
    🧔🏼: "Yeah, I met... that guy once or twice."

  • @OliveMule
    @OliveMule Месяц назад

    Gnostic dutch = accepts Americanism
    Catholic James = doesnt accept reprobates

  • @timplumb21
    @timplumb21 Месяц назад

    It wasn't Tommy Rich that had the bell I forget who it was but it wasn't Tommy Rich for some reason I'm thinking it was Tim Horner that pulled that shit but definitely not Tommy Rich

    • @tomr3422
      @tomr3422 Месяц назад

      Horner had to turn over the belt (an angle) that he won unfairly - he showed up in the ring with a diabled child holding the belt, Bob Armstrong had to take the belt, Armstrong was not happy about it. Cornette wanted to pay the guys that lived out of town and pay horner the next day when the bank was open, horners wife told him he had to get paid that night so cornette had to pay him out of pocket. - I dont remember T Rich ever doing much in SMW.

  • @QuentinDude
    @QuentinDude Месяц назад

    one-time-he-got-a-roll-o-nickels-instead-o-dimes🤣🙃😛🤠🥳😎😈🤬💩☠👹👺🤡👽😹💔