24:00 God, "being gay is not a spectator sport" is such a perfect way to describe it. This goes both ways, with straight people being into gays of the opposite sex because it's hot. It feels like a lot of people view homosexuality as a fetish, like there's some taboo appeal about it. So much old yaoi on the internet had this weird trope where a guy would basically sexually assault another guy, but then they realize they're gay mid-coitus and get into it. It feels like they see gayness as the same as like, incest, like in a fictional context, two girls making out is the same as a mother and son. It's really messed up??? Fun Pizza Tower stream, everybody!
yeah, the biggest problem with it all is just the mere fact that it's always just alluded to, and never sold concretely. it's not just a problem in anime, western cartoons (especially made for kids) just have a problem without right saying the word "gay". kipo is the first cartoon i know of that just, straight up said in the damn show itself that one of the characters is gay. it took til 2020 for a show like that to exist! it just feels so wrong that it's "kind of" acceptable, but there's still this air of tabooness over our existence that stops writers and especially the higher ups at corporations from allowing our existence to be acknowledged in meaningfully tangible ways that isn't just "oh they're staring at each other with bedroom eyes"
@@EeveeEuphoriato be fair to children's cartoons, not being able to actually say gay was more often due to execs being assholes than the creators themselves being weird
1:10:55 The flamboyant Choose Goose voice you're talking about? That's an impression of Ed Wynn, a vaudeville actor and comedian who is probably best known for voicing the Mad Hatter in Disney's Alice in Wonderland. An impression of his voice is also what Alan Tudyk used for King Candy in Wreck-it Ralph, what Chuck McCann did for Jollo from King's Quest VI, and many more.
Joseph "Jacob" Greyfruit takes to the stage solemnly at 1:29. He is here to express to you all, a story of the soul, a tale of malice, hatred, identity, and what it can all do to a person with underlying issues, and something to prove. This will not be an easy story to stomach. For some it may feel like a personal attack, but that is all the more reason to listen, so you too do not close yourself off to the world, and go down this dark path. So best get comfortable with your seats, as this masterful actor express to you all the tale of the Pizza Tower and The Noise's Decent...
The reason why Oregano Desert's code-name is "Badland" is because they needed to call it something other than "Desert". The code-name for "Desert" is taken up by the old version of Oregano, which was seemingly too significantly different to just edit layouts of, so they just made entirely new rooms for new Oregano. (Also, if you're ever using the wiki, don't use the Fandom one. It gets heavily vandalized and the original owners of it have moved to hosting the wiki on Miraheze instead. The Fandom one has a lot of misinformation.)
That situation with Fandom sounds VERY familiar. The Yume 2kki community had a similar issue back in July, when the moderators announced that they would be transitioning to a new hosting service, and Fandom promptly unmodded all the moderators and refused to shut the wiki down. Now, that's pretty shitty, but it also led to some truly hilarious vandalism on the Fandom wiki, like the logo being replaced by an edit of the Seinfeld logo, the background for the main page was replaced by the old man from Up with muscles, and there were pages made for Saul Goodman World, ctf_2fort, and many more. It's all since been reverted, but it's still archived on the Discord and it's hilarious
Yuri on ice HAD to say at any turn that it didn't had the gay in it, otherwise the rating and overall brocasting of the show would have been very different, the creators reinforced the idea that it was purely a sports anime so that the network didn't fucked them over, also aparently it was as vague as posible so that it wasn't banned in other countries like russia
your story about trying to beat the advanced chess player with your unorthodox moves may not work out well in chess, but that shit works sometimes in fighting games
2:16:10 I think you saw the anchovy guy in the spider web, and he "disappeared" because the background scrolled to a point where he was behind the wall
Kirby's Air ride is probably my favorite Gray+Lark video, so yeah, I'm all for one-offs as he said. That said, I really enjoyed the LarkSouls series, I'm glad I discovered Souls game through it.
As a vod viewer, him not going for the sequence break really hurt. Afaik he only addressed it at the beginning where he said it would probably put him even further in the level than necessary So now I have to endure him not going for the strat, not knowing if he didn't know the skip would place him directly on the tower guy room, or if chat told him and just insisted on doing the peppino route
Something with WEIRDLY good, natural queer representation is the Borderlands series. Off the top of my head Hammerlock, Hammerlock's quest-giving ex-boyfriends, Wainwright Jakobs, Athena, Janey Springs, Moxxi, Tannis, and Axton are all explicitly queer. And I know there are some sidequest npc's I can't remember too.
2:31:32 idk how you even saw that he was there, i counted and there was exactly FOUR frames where you could see the very end of the dissapearing animation with the 4 dots. You literally couldnt even see the guy at all. I mean it made the disappearing noise but it's crazy you also knew exactly where he was
1:52:10 I feel the exact same way for everything, except Touhou music. Not only remixes, but also the OG OST but with lyrics. The stuff Lyrica Live makes is, while definitely not objectively good, finds it’s way into getting stuck in my head. Maybe it’s because she makes interesting lyrics to go with the banger Touhou tracks.
My favorite touhou arranger is definitely Akatsuki Records, they have such a good variety of genres and Stack's vocal range and performances are just sublime. Honorable mention goes to A-One and other eurobeat arrangers,cause haha funni vroom vroom music
A piece of media that I think has excellent queer representation is Bugsnax. They don't make a huge spectacle of it, no ogling whatsoever. It's treated entirely naturally and it's super refreshing to see! One of many reasons to love that game man
The Chess story actually happened to a friend of mine. During an intercadets Chess tournament their main guy got sick so my friend put his name into play. He didn't know how to play Chess but actually managed to win his first two games through blind luck
Completely get what you're saying about the whole thing with Joker in Persona 5, but I disagree to /some/ extent. Definitely weird that they seem to characterize joker as a horny mf for no reason here and there, that's not what I'm disagreeing with, but while yes he is a blank slate for the most part he's characterized in other ways too. I mean just look at the dialog response options, they characterize Joker pretty damn well I think. Granted some of that characterization is in your control since you're picking but they're all valid thoughts and responses for him to have at any given moment and shows a glimpse into the mf we play as in that game.
20:50 I completely agree, if it's not a demonsticated animal. Cats and dogs are not only happier and healtheir in captivity, but for cats especially they really ought not be in their "natural habitat" anyway (killing literally every rodent and bird in a few mile radius). unless it's like, in the savannah where they're from, but those aren't cats, those are ocelots (not cats), we've been on this train for tens of thousands of years and there's no stopping that. same with dogs but way longer.
news flash: guy who is a huge fan of jojo talks about sports anime being gay i have a gay friend and whenever we're talking about BL (he's a big fan of BL and bara and all that stuff) one thing we always talk about is how much straight women step in on gay man spaces that straight men just don't in lesbian spaces. It's a rare instance of something like that, we're used to men being the perpetrator of things like that. We also tend to agree that men watching lesbian porn seems different than women watching gay porn, just in what is gained out of it, like gay men are still more taboo and unspeakable than gay women for whatever reason. I don't want to speak too much on his behalf though, it wouldn't be fair. Yeah queer media in japan has to be "queer with plausible deniability", at least mainstream stuff and not doujin, is indeed because of where japanese society is rn. It's indeed just a facet of the animation/manga industry and the state of things and all that. I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert of japanese culture, of course.
Oh damn I had the same exact issue while watching a bit of My Hero Academia. I'm not like super into slice of life stuff, but the show has such dogshit pacing that we're doing fights and hero stuff 70% of the time, 20% of the time is solely dedicated to flashbacks I swear to god, and then 10% is them actually in hero school doing hero student things
Well, the specific issue with trans people in media having the backstory of being sexually tortured is that it's actually a specific stereotype of trans people and of LGBTQ people in general. that is, "ah, you must have become [slur] because you were abused as a child". and like. yeah there are people that have a nuanced relationship with their sexuality because of sexual abuse. but not all, and it's used as a way to compartmentalize the complexity of sexuality, and dismiss and invalidate people's lived experiences as "just because you're fucked up" or whatever.
@@fruitsalad5802 Yeah. I checked saveData1N for my first noise save. I decided to find him in a level again, but this time I beat the level and the number changed to 1. very strange
@@arturliviuI think if he was, he'd play some on stream; he is a variety streamer. Also, even though he just finished Mother 3, I don't think he likes playing them too much. In his Persona 5 review, he said that Bella ended up playing most of it while he watched. I think if he's into one, he's mostly into it for the story, presentation, and other such things. EBF is mostly focused on gameplay from the few I've played. Not that I *wouldn't want* him to play it, just that I think he wouldn't
A lot of more popular BL media online, or at least spaces with BL communities around otherwise non-BL fiction, focuses on having a will-they wont-they dynamic and treating homosexuality like its a taboo. One other commenter put it better than me: A lot of BL features scenes where one sexually assaults the other, but they both get into it because they realise they're both gay, which suggests it is some kind of taboo secret or guilty pleasure of some sort. Nobody is saying you can't enjoy romance that isn't about sexual orientations that you don't align with, but its moreso the way BL is treated by its fanbase that infantalizes and fetishizes the idea of two men being gay.
It would be oh so nice if you go left instead of going all the way to the right at 2:53:37 my liege. It would save you like 5 seconds, my liege. e; thank you chat thank you very much chat
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21:06 Gray: He brings so much to the table, y'know? and I just want to bring-
the music (perfectly in sync): *BRING THE NOISE!*
24:00 God, "being gay is not a spectator sport" is such a perfect way to describe it. This goes both ways, with straight people being into gays of the opposite sex because it's hot. It feels like a lot of people view homosexuality as a fetish, like there's some taboo appeal about it. So much old yaoi on the internet had this weird trope where a guy would basically sexually assault another guy, but then they realize they're gay mid-coitus and get into it. It feels like they see gayness as the same as like, incest, like in a fictional context, two girls making out is the same as a mother and son. It's really messed up???
Fun Pizza Tower stream, everybody!
yeah, the biggest problem with it all is just the mere fact that it's always just alluded to, and never sold concretely. it's not just a problem in anime, western cartoons (especially made for kids) just have a problem without right saying the word "gay". kipo is the first cartoon i know of that just, straight up said in the damn show itself that one of the characters is gay. it took til 2020 for a show like that to exist!
it just feels so wrong that it's "kind of" acceptable, but there's still this air of tabooness over our existence that stops writers and especially the higher ups at corporations from allowing our existence to be acknowledged in meaningfully tangible ways that isn't just "oh they're staring at each other with bedroom eyes"
What the fuck
@@EeveeEuphoriato be fair to children's cartoons, not being able to actually say gay was more often due to execs being assholes than the creators themselves being weird
fun pizza tower stream everybody !!!!!!!!!!
"I guess that's it for today" meanwhile the video progress bar is only halfway full
"I gotta head out in about an hour" 2 hours left of video
1:10:55 The flamboyant Choose Goose voice you're talking about? That's an impression of Ed Wynn, a vaudeville actor and comedian who is probably best known for voicing the Mad Hatter in Disney's Alice in Wonderland.
An impression of his voice is also what Alan Tudyk used for King Candy in Wreck-it Ralph, what Chuck McCann did for Jollo from King's Quest VI, and many more.
Joseph "Jacob" Greyfruit takes to the stage solemnly at 1:29. He is here to express to you all, a story of the soul, a tale of malice, hatred, identity, and what it can all do to a person with underlying issues, and something to prove.
This will not be an easy story to stomach. For some it may feel like a personal attack, but that is all the more reason to listen, so you too do not close yourself off to the world, and go down this dark path. So best get comfortable with your seats, as this masterful actor express to you all the tale of the Pizza Tower and The Noise's Decent...
you spoil us, cannon ball king VII
@@HoneyHatty I do it because people deserve the best, hope you have a lovely day.
You a real one king
local fruit man respectfully rips fujoshis a new one
The reason why Oregano Desert's code-name is "Badland" is because they needed to call it something other than "Desert". The code-name for "Desert" is taken up by the old version of Oregano, which was seemingly too significantly different to just edit layouts of, so they just made entirely new rooms for new Oregano.
(Also, if you're ever using the wiki, don't use the Fandom one. It gets heavily vandalized and the original owners of it have moved to hosting the wiki on Miraheze instead. The Fandom one has a lot of misinformation.)
That is actually fascinating. I had no idea why some levels had seemingly trivial internal name changes before.
-also its fandom, the company running the way it does...
That situation with Fandom sounds VERY familiar. The Yume 2kki community had a similar issue back in July, when the moderators announced that they would be transitioning to a new hosting service, and Fandom promptly unmodded all the moderators and refused to shut the wiki down. Now, that's pretty shitty, but it also led to some truly hilarious vandalism on the Fandom wiki, like the logo being replaced by an edit of the Seinfeld logo, the background for the main page was replaced by the old man from Up with muscles, and there were pages made for Saul Goodman World, ctf_2fort, and many more. It's all since been reverted, but it's still archived on the Discord and it's hilarious
At 2:12:18 Tower Guy disappeared because of the time reaching one minute and not because the Noise got close enough, so it didn't count.
if you get another chinchilla name him sock
no, name him shoe as well
@@dailyheavy416 shoe 2
@@concept8192 2 shoes. full set, two of em
none of you know the prophecy of The
they will be The the chinchilla
Grayfruit never caved in to the sequence break in Freezer. A true hero in the face of adversity.
Who up towering they pizza?
I be eating my pizza rn
I got ranch on my pizza rn
I'm hungry af man
omg me
@@eggpling hell yeah
their*
They*
oh my god he actually did freezer ptg legit. i didnt even know that was possible
2:11:36 It's kind of wild how once you're good enough with Noise, the game basically becomes about precision flying.
you better not be looking like greyfruit when i get back
my Johann Lambert side portrait looking ahh:
Yuri on ice HAD to say at any turn that it didn't had the gay in it, otherwise the rating and overall brocasting of the show would have been very different, the creators reinforced the idea that it was purely a sports anime so that the network didn't fucked them over, also aparently it was as vague as posible so that it wasn't banned in other countries like russia
ruclips.net/video/yDp3cB5fHXQ/видео.htmlh52m52s
It was on the gay witching hour, witches be gay
your story about trying to beat the advanced chess player with your unorthodox moves may not work out well in chess, but that shit works sometimes in fighting games
2:16:10 I think you saw the anchovy guy in the spider web, and he "disappeared" because the background scrolled to a point where he was behind the wall
That Pig City sample,whenever i hear it in any song, the first thing that I'm reminded of is Vela Nova from Sonic Rush
Kirby's Air ride is probably my favorite Gray+Lark video, so yeah, I'm all for one-offs as he said. That said, I really enjoyed the LarkSouls series, I'm glad I discovered Souls game through it.
As a vod viewer, him not going for the sequence break really hurt. Afaik he only addressed it at the beginning where he said it would probably put him even further in the level than necessary
So now I have to endure him not going for the strat, not knowing if he didn't know the skip would place him directly on the tower guy room, or if chat told him and just insisted on doing the peppino route
Something with WEIRDLY good, natural queer representation is the Borderlands series.
Off the top of my head Hammerlock, Hammerlock's quest-giving ex-boyfriends, Wainwright Jakobs, Athena, Janey Springs, Moxxi, Tannis, and Axton are all explicitly queer. And I know there are some sidequest npc's I can't remember too.
FL4K is also nonbinary
Wait, Axton is too? thought he had a wife/didn't make any mention of being bisexual from what i remembe4
@@deejorno He's bi. In the Dragon Keep dlc Moxxi asks the hunters what they'll spend the money on and he says "guns and women... and sometimes dudes"
Also Mr. Torgue is openly pan, as shown with some comments calling the vault hunters hot
2:31:32 idk how you even saw that he was there, i counted and there was exactly FOUR frames where you could see the very end of the dissapearing animation with the 4 dots. You literally couldnt even see the guy at all. I mean it made the disappearing noise but it's crazy you also knew exactly where he was
1:52:10 I feel the exact same way for everything, except Touhou music. Not only remixes, but also the OG OST but with lyrics. The stuff Lyrica Live makes is, while definitely not objectively good, finds it’s way into getting stuck in my head.
Maybe it’s because she makes interesting lyrics to go with the banger Touhou tracks.
My favorite touhou arranger is definitely Akatsuki Records, they have such a good variety of genres and Stack's vocal range and performances are just sublime.
Honorable mention goes to A-One and other eurobeat arrangers,cause haha funni vroom vroom music
@@posteriorpepperoni Hard Agree.
Our Desires, Rain Dance, Money Money, Sekibanki are all just a few absolute bangers they roll out.
The word you're looking for is "fujoshi"!
The Noise’s new and kinda weird cohost begins the show at 1:30
A piece of media that I think has excellent queer representation is Bugsnax. They don't make a huge spectacle of it, no ogling whatsoever. It's treated entirely naturally and it's super refreshing to see! One of many reasons to love that game man
the doise is in the doom mod , but he is not FROM it , he's an oc someone made
the man behind the slaughter
That chess story is the plot of a Smart Guy episode where he goes against a computer. Except it works.
Return To Tower Pizzaface: Noise or Be Poise'd
dont think you realise how hard you schmoove in this fucking game
If I made a game I would add dev times but for how slow you can beat a stage.
But whens Doise Nrip hunting
california roisen
The Urple fit really is the best one
Why he ourple tho
The Chess story actually happened to a friend of mine. During an intercadets Chess tournament their main guy got sick so my friend put his name into play. He didn't know how to play Chess but actually managed to win his first two games through blind luck
14:07 YEAAAH GEXUMA YIPPEEE, also really excited to see your take on video essays
you love to see it
How can one be sick of piss a towerr
piss towel
3:09:05 you know, you could have done it much more easier and faster by breaking the ice block next to the door of the ice blocks room
I love prizza tower
noise has the best ____
A) Drip
B) Grip
C) Trip
D) Crip
The secret 5th option
@@Linguini_Guy E) Piza
D
this is a matter of opinion
@@InkInkly F) Dip
Completely get what you're saying about the whole thing with Joker in Persona 5, but I disagree to /some/ extent. Definitely weird that they seem to characterize joker as a horny mf for no reason here and there, that's not what I'm disagreeing with, but while yes he is a blank slate for the most part he's characterized in other ways too.
I mean just look at the dialog response options, they characterize Joker pretty damn well I think. Granted some of that characterization is in your control since you're picking but they're all valid thoughts and responses for him to have at any given moment and shows a glimpse into the mf we play as in that game.
hey mr. fruitman you probably already know but if you beat the game in swap mode the end credits have some small changes that are pretty neat :D
the gray lad shows up at 1:30
fall in the direction of the smoke (the smoke coming from underneath the tower before the pizzaface arena)
Another comment trap for the algorithm (praise be)
@@quartzofcourse what
nurple poise
me and the boise when hes green:
The smoke outside of the tower is just from Peppino's fireplace or something, to show that you can fall down there to unlock swap mode
chat does he know
@@jellystarlight44 apparently he does not
Hey Grayfruit, you caught one
i think itd be better if the house thing and the swap mode thing was a surprise
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wondering when the subbathon might be it sounds good
I don't think you'd be able to submit the run since you had the level timer instead of the full game timer + the speedrun timer, unfortunately.
20:50 I completely agree, if it's not a demonsticated animal. Cats and dogs are not only happier and healtheir in captivity, but for cats especially they really ought not be in their "natural habitat" anyway (killing literally every rodent and bird in a few mile radius).
unless it's like, in the savannah where they're from, but those aren't cats, those are ocelots (not cats), we've been on this train for tens of thousands of years and there's no stopping that. same with dogs but way longer.
news flash: guy who is a huge fan of jojo talks about sports anime being gay
i have a gay friend and whenever we're talking about BL (he's a big fan of BL and bara and all that stuff) one thing we always talk about is how much straight women step in on gay man spaces that straight men just don't in lesbian spaces. It's a rare instance of something like that, we're used to men being the perpetrator of things like that. We also tend to agree that men watching lesbian porn seems different than women watching gay porn, just in what is gained out of it, like gay men are still more taboo and unspeakable than gay women for whatever reason. I don't want to speak too much on his behalf though, it wouldn't be fair.
Yeah queer media in japan has to be "queer with plausible deniability", at least mainstream stuff and not doujin, is indeed because of where japanese society is rn. It's indeed just a facet of the animation/manga industry and the state of things and all that. I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert of japanese culture, of course.
Oh damn I had the same exact issue while watching a bit of My Hero Academia. I'm not like super into slice of life stuff, but the show has such dogshit pacing that we're doing fights and hero stuff 70% of the time, 20% of the time is solely dedicated to flashbacks I swear to god, and then 10% is them actually in hero school doing hero student things
@@omnisel brother he ain't readin all this
Well, the specific issue with trans people in media having the backstory of being sexually tortured is that it's actually a specific stereotype of trans people and of LGBTQ people in general. that is, "ah, you must have become [slur] because you were abused as a child". and like. yeah there are people that have a nuanced relationship with their sexuality because of sexual abuse. but not all, and it's used as a way to compartmentalize the complexity of sexuality, and dismiss and invalidate people's lived experiences as "just because you're fucked up" or whatever.
1:59:13 guys im stupid is he joking or is he serious i cant actually tell
He said he intentionally left out any mention of Swap Mode from his main channel video to generate engagement. He's joking about that.
@@Velovetre OHHHH thank you droglodyte also hi droglodyte
i did not expect fruit man to talk about the Ethics of Yaoi during funny pizza tower speedrun
game starts at 3:27 :)
‘Finale’
We do need custom levels tho gray
shoe 2 electric boogaloo???
You gotta name the second chincilla Sock
this is a mother 3 song???
Mother 3 has a TON of musical samples and references in its soundtrack. The original version of this song is Gymnopedie No. 1 by Erik Satie.
say what you want about vgm but man on the internet is pretty good tho
such things have never been hunted before fruitman! think of the environmental consequences!
I just did them all and didn't get the clothes, so I checked the save file and I only have two of them. I'm confused as to why none of them worked
you certain you're looking at the right save file? each one has a normal Peppino version and a Noise version
@@fruitsalad5802 Yeah. I checked saveData1N for my first noise save. I decided to find him in a level again, but this time I beat the level and the number changed to 1. very strange
that music is from mother 3???
Can you play epic battle fantasy 5?
You keep asking this, but you are aware he doesn't seem to be an RPG guy, right? Also, he probably wouldn't stream it even if he did play it.
@@Allukard353 how do you know he isnt an rpg guy?
@@arturliviuI think if he was, he'd play some on stream; he is a variety streamer. Also, even though he just finished Mother 3, I don't think he likes playing them too much. In his Persona 5 review, he said that Bella ended up playing most of it while he watched.
I think if he's into one, he's mostly into it for the story, presentation, and other such things. EBF is mostly focused on gameplay from the few I've played.
Not that I *wouldn't want* him to play it, just that I think he wouldn't
@@Allukard353 well I would still like somebody to play this game
Its hella underrated
FIRST IS THE WORST...!!
Based stream this one
Not sure where Gray got that BL stuff is queerbaiting? Like im genuinely confused as to how he reached that conclusion
A lot of more popular BL media online, or at least spaces with BL communities around otherwise non-BL fiction, focuses on having a will-they wont-they dynamic and treating homosexuality like its a taboo. One other commenter put it better than me: A lot of BL features scenes where one sexually assaults the other, but they both get into it because they realise they're both gay, which suggests it is some kind of taboo secret or guilty pleasure of some sort. Nobody is saying you can't enjoy romance that isn't about sexual orientations that you don't align with, but its moreso the way BL is treated by its fanbase that infantalizes and fetishizes the idea of two men being gay.
what is bl????
oh
@@Natoursofcourse from what I'd always heard that kind of stuff was more a problem in yaoi rather than bl
It would be oh so nice if you go left instead of going all the way to the right at 2:53:37 my liege. It would save you like 5 seconds, my liege.
e; thank you chat thank you very much chat