The UNTOLD TRAGIC PAST of Kinger! - An Amazing Digital Circus Theory and Discussion!

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @CommanderSteelTrap
    @CommanderSteelTrap Год назад +2205

    Really feels like he’s gonna be an Ice King type. Initially we see him as just a fun, random character who does silly things, but eventually we’ll get some backstory that makes him way more tragic and endearing, possibly making him very important to the lore and story of the world.

    • @azlanmalik247
      @azlanmalik247 Год назад +97

      That can be a good idea, imagine if it turns out that Kinger was revealed to be the one who trapped them in the circus as he wanted friends as nobody ever saw him as anything but a chess piece in their game, and the gang saw him as a person

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 Год назад +52

      I now headcanon Kinger's real name to be Simon

    • @azlanmalik247
      @azlanmalik247 Год назад +25

      @@rosykindbunny1313 Resident Simon how do you plead?

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 Год назад +22

      @@azlanmalik247 We'll need your testimony on the stand

    • @Funnemonkeman
      @Funnemonkeman Год назад +12

      ​@@azlanmalik247He pleads: AHHHH

  • @jamesverner9132
    @jamesverner9132 Год назад +1981

    I don't believe kinger is really insane. I believe his behavior is an act to avoid abstraction and to survive canies games and challenges. Kinger is the smartest character, calling it now.

    • @Mariwend
      @Mariwend Год назад +216

      For a chess piece that actually makes sense.

    • @taraktaras7327
      @taraktaras7327 Год назад +67

      Kinger be the smart boy

    • @mikedoesthings2134
      @mikedoesthings2134 Год назад +49

      I don’t get how pretending to be insane would prevent abstracting though

    • @andrewTateOhio
      @andrewTateOhio Год назад +66

      I think at the end of the season/series he'll do the thing where a character stops pretending to be insane and is revealed to be the one pulling the strings.

    • @gabbreilblue443
      @gabbreilblue443 Год назад +17

      @@Mariwend I actually really like that.

  • @TheMediaLover
    @TheMediaLover Год назад +1066

    I'm actually really interested on how Pomni got into this game in the first place. What was her goal? Her life? Did she have loved ones? I have to know!

    • @bunnyconcubus8468
      @bunnyconcubus8468 Год назад +92

      My take is that Pomni was a clown that was down on her luck and needed cash. C&A provided and sent her into the game with the others in hopes that it was fixed by now which would make sense if they get new people every once in a while.

    • @ouuma
      @ouuma Год назад +95

      @@bunnyconcubus8468 i agree but i dont think she was specifically a clown, probably just like an average office job or smthn

    • @somechupacabrawithinternet8866
      @somechupacabrawithinternet8866 Год назад +2

      waht a cute name! i like it

    • @kamikeserpentail3778
      @kamikeserpentail3778 Год назад +63

      When she reacts to that one PC in the office area, it makes me suspect that that's exactly the one she used to get in.
      There's even a headset sitting on the desk near it.
      And that particular PC looks pretty run down, out of place even.
      At the very end the camera zooms out and it keeps going past the void until it's outside of that computer screen.
      My thought is Kinger is the original Caine. He worked on digital circus and accidentally trapped himself there. Other employees didn't know what was going on and trapped themselves as well, but were less able to handle what was going on so they abstracted. Kinger partly kept himself sane by deciding that instead of trying to escape he would focus on trying to find bugs in the system to fix it, which is why he's obsessed with his insect collection.
      Years later someone finds the computer in like the basement or something and sets it up in the main offices before getting trapped, and while scavenging or exploring the place on a dare or whatever Pomni stumbles upon it.

    • @TheMediaLover
      @TheMediaLover Год назад +7

      @@kamikeserpentail3778 That's a decent theory you got there. Good job

  • @HeraclesN-fp1bw
    @HeraclesN-fp1bw Год назад +512

    I like that theory that Kinger has some big connection to the Circus especially since there is a classic trope of the crazy person knows more than you think, & also the Queen could have “sacrificed” herself

    • @meat3958
      @meat3958 Год назад +42

      I was thinking this, hes a Chess piece and so is She; In a Real Game, the queen is the most powerful piece minus the king, the queen is the king’s most powerful defending and attacking piece both followed by the rooks. A queen sacrifice would make sense, it’s a brilliant move under the conditions of a good player, or a blunder completely under a newer player. So her loss was either a brilliant move or a blunder 🧐

    • @williaml840
      @williaml840 Год назад +17

      ⁠@@meat3958Sacrificing a queen is rarely a “brilliant move” - it can certainly be the best move if it results in an advantageous trade, but you won’t see something like sacrificing a queen to trick the opponent into a checkmate amongst skilled players often.

    • @emersondomondon5191
      @emersondomondon5191 Год назад +3

      4:40 can someone tell me what animation is this?

    • @Minetendo_Fan
      @Minetendo_Fan Год назад +1

      What if that “sacrifice” was a “blunder”?

    • @HeraclesN-fp1bw
      @HeraclesN-fp1bw Год назад +2

      @@emersondomondon5191 That would be Disney’s short called “Inner Workings”

  • @TheMediaLover
    @TheMediaLover Год назад +510

    Kinger is the most funny and intriguing character to think about. He has a lot of potential

  • @sodaholic4182
    @sodaholic4182 Год назад +231

    The analysis of Kinger's design actually seems extremly valid and well put together. Makes me start to think more deeply about the designs of the other players. Maybe Pomni was some sort of entertainer before being transferred, like a streamer or youtuber testing out an old, forgotten game, hence the jester design.

    • @bella_daze3092
      @bella_daze3092 Год назад +14

      WAIT THIS MAKES SENSE- omg 0-0

    • @panicatlabiblioteca
      @panicatlabiblioteca Год назад +32

      That actually makes sense- she talked about a not being able to take a headset off, so I thought she was a streamer or player. Honestly I thought ALL the people were players but this makes me think

    • @nuclearstuff9442
      @nuclearstuff9442 Год назад +2

      ​@UTTPJimmywhats uttp

    • @alesio2946
      @alesio2946 Год назад +23

      So that means Pomni's streaming never ended manualy, and her RUclips video was way too long… the audience must have panicked at her sudden disintegration

    • @katulingamesandanamats8098
      @katulingamesandanamats8098 Год назад

      ​@@alesio2946in a way this is also kind of satisfying to think about... Because there is a chance that people outside could know what's going on and be looking for a way to help

  • @whitneyl.1856
    @whitneyl.1856 Год назад +210

    I'm glad someone else came out with the theory of Kinger being the lead developer of the game. It's the same theory I've had for days now. Also that Kinger had a spouse who worked on the game with him.

    • @flopcartman
      @flopcartman Год назад +10

      Me too, I always though he was one of the mods because he is a king piece and he kept talking about "insect colections"

    • @SweetTooth1102
      @SweetTooth1102 Год назад +4

      That's reminding me of squid game lol

    • @theslaya1576
      @theslaya1576 Год назад +2

      Btw the character's name is Queenie, Gooseworx revealed this herself as well as the cast's ages and other little bits and bobs of info.
      Edit: it was all said on Tumblr.

  • @parkervance3646
    @parkervance3646 Год назад +223

    Fun fact there was concept art of kinger abstracting this implies that instead of kaufmo it would have been kinger I’m glad they kept him.

    • @TrinityCore60
      @TrinityCore60 Год назад +27

      I’m happy, too. I’ve never really been much for a clown aesthetic.

    • @pepperoniislices
      @pepperoniislices Год назад +23

      Wait where did you find that concept art?? I'd really like to see it!!!

    • @based980
      @based980 Год назад +13

      where is the concept art

    • @John2011the3rd
      @John2011the3rd Год назад +19

      Also I kinda want to see kaufmo as an actual character

    • @Stanfordscienceman
      @Stanfordscienceman Год назад +29

      Maybe that was being referenced when zooble said “no offense,but I always thought kinger would be next”

  • @theknightwithabadpictotall7639
    @theknightwithabadpictotall7639 Год назад +548

    If the actual story is like this, it's gonna be extremely sad
    That being said, wouldn't it make more sense for Kinger and the queen piece to be enemies? Considering they're opposite colors and all

    • @AzariahMarinaStarcaster
      @AzariahMarinaStarcaster Год назад +115

      Okay but imagine if they weren't supposed to be together because one or both of their parents were high key racist and disapproved of them being a couple, but they decided to just make it work anyway.

    • @butterssscotch
      @butterssscotch Год назад +82

      Like magnets, “opposites attract.”

    • @Flam_Is_Cool
      @Flam_Is_Cool Год назад +46

      juliet and romeo be like

    • @ImTheGuy
      @ImTheGuy Год назад +31

      @@Flam_Is_Cool It's Gnomeo and Juliet

    • @Crystre
      @Crystre Год назад +31

      @@Flam_Is_Cool*the better version

  • @oddtomato1049
    @oddtomato1049 Год назад +71

    The way Finn talks about this hypothetical version of a company we don't know anything about has such an emotional performance behind it. The bitterness of his tounge is palpable whenever the corporation or it's metaphorical suits are mentioned.

    • @Thispersonisreal
      @Thispersonisreal Год назад +9

      Because it translates into real world, holy shit are there a lot of bad higher-ups in the gaming industry

  • @jordanhunter3375
    @jordanhunter3375 Год назад +143

    I personally believe at this time that the reason no one had gotten their headset off in-game is because in actualization, theyre not physical bodies attached in a VR headset, but rather artifical constructs built by data from brain scans of human beings.
    Thinking along the lines of works like SOMA.
    I mean, if theyre were still attached to a physical body, it would require someone in the real world to keep the users from physically dying from malnutrition/dehydration/lack of sleep/external events.
    Plus, they dont remember their names, yet they recall putting on a headset

    • @sammig.8286
      @sammig.8286 Год назад +23

      So basically, they're AI clones of people rather than the actual people themselves? Sounds plausible.

    • @taddad2641
      @taddad2641 Год назад +6

      depends on if the body is..... consumed in the process.

    • @alien.astronaut
      @alien.astronaut Год назад

      @@sammig.8286oh so kind of like The Hollow

    • @jc_art_
      @jc_art_ Год назад +7

      ​@@sammig.8286it would make sense, as there would be no reason for them to forget their previous memories otherwise.

    • @TerraSoftTV
      @TerraSoftTV Год назад +1

      Also had the 'ghost in the machine' thought and I really hope that doesn't turn out to be the case because it would be so heartbreaking.

  • @anonimni1288
    @anonimni1288 Год назад +34

    Theory : Bubble is actualy a glitch that randomly spaned in the game hence why Caine calld him a parasyte. But once Kinger got sucked into the game there was no one to delet the glitch and Bubble stuck around and became Caines personal pet

  • @kaligath6616
    @kaligath6616 Год назад +226

    I am starting to think the "exit" is basically the Debug section of the program you know like how developers have a debug room to test things because it does lead to the void that is technically area to expand on development of the game project.

    • @alesio2946
      @alesio2946 Год назад +7

      I Guess most of the void's stuff ressembles unfinished projects, as Kein never finished the exit in the first place… all (and the best) he could do was to put memories of how you got trapped

    • @zadovrus1624
      @zadovrus1624 Год назад +5

      Debug room is just it - a big room where you can test game mechanics in isolation or in combination of your choosing. Exit in show leads to some kinda backrooms deal, like procedurally generated stuff.

    • @kaligath6616
      @kaligath6616 Год назад +4

      @@alesio2946 Well Caine does say "they will be spoiled" and the fact that caine being the AI of the program even said "not even i know" when referring to the void and to add to that he even admits the exit is not real and does not like people seeing his unfinished work that leads to the void.
      So putting those together indicates it is basically a debug for new or unfinished content.
      Also it could indicate Caine is in fact true AI that is learning and the people in the world give purpose to this learning hence he might not want them to leave.
      Also to add to this theory is he gives them adventures could he be using said adventures to learn from human psychology.
      Why do i feel as if Caine is going to become like GLaDOS...

    • @GamerDashYT
      @GamerDashYT Год назад +2

      I believe that the exit is a true exit because when pomni sees the one computer something in her breaks like it unlocks a memory. I believe that pomni used to work for C&A as a tester but C&A actually is corrupt so when they have pomni test it they actually want to trap her. One theory of mine is getting deeper into the void will force you out of the game or if you abstract your mind and body leaves and the game worlds character avatar becomes a monster because it has no mind or body to keep it stable so all that's left becomes unstable and corrupt.

    • @kaligath6616
      @kaligath6616 Год назад +1

      @@GamerDashYT nah because if they wanted to do that they could have easily made it so she instantly abstracts it would be so easy for them to do it if it was to remove her.

  • @skylanderproductions4341
    @skylanderproductions4341 Год назад +32

    I knew he has a bigger role when Jax said that he Kinger was supposedly here the longest. He’s gonna be very important to the story I garuntee it

  • @seashelltheseawing
    @seashelltheseawing Год назад +2576

    Maybe kinger's mental instability is actually saving him from abstracting, cuz you can't have an existential crisis if you can barely think.
    Edit: Welp. A lot of people agree with me I guess.

    • @kamikeserpentail3778
      @kamikeserpentail3778 Год назад +212

      My thought is he worked on it.
      And instead of making his goal to escape, he made it his goal to figure out the bugs so everyone could escape.
      And this is why he's obsessed with his "insect collection"
      I do also think him going a bit mad is what is protecting him from abstracting.
      It is his pillow fort so to speak.
      And I'm uncertain if I should be drawing a connection between the mask the mannequin shoots off, and Kinger's reactions to Gangle.

    • @Biveybive17593
      @Biveybive17593 Год назад +15

      Hi

    • @wafagdplqs4421
      @wafagdplqs4421 Год назад

      ​@@kamikeserpentail3778interesting !

    • @Anton-de5vu
      @Anton-de5vu Год назад +64

      That was what I was thinking too. He’s not crazy, he’s just detached in his own little world as a coping mechanism, Constantly daydreaming. This is why he’s always saying whatever’s on his mind (the insect collection) and is constantly getting startled by those who are right next to him, as they snapped him out of whatever thoughts he was lost in.

    • @unripetheberrby6283
      @unripetheberrby6283 Год назад +15

      Interesting addition 🤔

  • @cweidmann312
    @cweidmann312 Год назад +16

    Kinger reminds me of a goofy dad that really needs a nap, and he's pretty much immediately become my favorite because of it. Gentle too but she needs more screen time if I'm honest.

  • @EvenEEvenII
    @EvenEEvenII Год назад +399

    It’s crazy how it’s been only around a week yet there’s so many theories already on the show.

    • @EvenEEvenII
      @EvenEEvenII Год назад +4

      @UTTPJimmy UTTP kinda fell off after 2020 ngl

    • @yemboy6304
      @yemboy6304 Год назад +1

      ​@UTTPJimmyYou ain't preventing cyber bullying by acting like a bot bru.

    • @alesio2946
      @alesio2946 Год назад

      Mine Is Kingler developed autism

    • @YanntastischGER
      @YanntastischGER Год назад +5

      Just gets to show how successful it is. I am so happy for the animators!

  • @Dark_Slayer3000
    @Dark_Slayer3000 Год назад +22

    Gooseworx gave an age list for the characters on social media and Kinger is by far the oldest at 48 years, that also adds to your theory :)
    Everyone else is in their 20s except for Ragatha, she's 30.
    Also the queen is called "Queenie" :D

  • @WarioWareFan01010
    @WarioWareFan01010 Год назад +485

    Why do I have the *slightest* feeling that C&A has been doing a little “human experimentation”? Also I feel like The higher ups will eventually become a certain Jaw person and circle we all know.

    • @timelymatters
      @timelymatters Год назад +15

      @jellylynnyeah I know I was saying that

    • @Inkys-tenatuous-channel-hub
      @Inkys-tenatuous-channel-hub Год назад +23

      This is my idea for what the first interaction between kinger, queener, the first 3 and Caine would be, without much delay… Inky’s factory (sponsored by joey drew studio’s) presents Queeners last gambit!
      Kinger: Uh… where are we (insert girlfriend’s name)?
      (Queener and kinger stare at each other for a solid 5 seconds before screaming)
      Queener: who the (hell) are you!?
      Kinger: I’m (insert employees name). WHO are you?
      Queener: then I guess the question is… where are we?
      (They start wondering about looking for some answers while assuming where they are and adding new names to themselves)
      Kinger: We’ve wandered for hours… (screams into the sky) WHERE ARE WE!?!?
      Caine: Oh! Hi there preformers!
      Queener: who are you? A JPEG?
      Caine: FIRST OFF… rude. Second is I’M CAINE and your in the amazing digital circus!
      Kinger: wait. Corporate got us stuck here too!?
      (They both are about to begin screaming again when Caine mutes them until they stop)
      Later
      Caine: Meet the rest of the cast! We got gangle, Jaz, and Ragitha!
      Ragitha: hey there!
      Gangle: Hi
      Jax: Hey nerds.
      Kinger: You guys haven’t abstracted? Good Good Good. I’m the developer!
      Jax: What. YOUR the guy who made the game?
      Queenie: Well, he used to have a team but the fat (censored) at the top fired the team and we had to code it together.
      Gangle: (Gets so surprised yet frustrated that her mask for rage burns leavening a pile of ash)
      (Ragitha just looks looks slightly frustrated)
      Jax: I… I could CHOKE you but you two lovebirds don’t have necks and we can’t die besides being abstracted
      Kinger: the reason an extra map is there in the code is that I try to remind you of your previous life but the fat cats put a head set on us so we are here too
      Ragitha: I’m going to trust you but one question: Is there an exit?
      Kinger: Good question! We never made on until we came here so we are stuck here, forever.
      (They all stare at him besides Caine just zones out as his eyes floats away like a rec room vr hand

    • @Cure_Hana
      @Cure_Hana Год назад +11

      I’m not sure about Bubble, but Gooseworx herself stated that Caine is just an AI.

    • @WarioWareFan01010
      @WarioWareFan01010 Год назад +6

      @@Cure_Hana Then what would happen to the greedy ceos that caused this mess and trapped everyone?

    • @McDonalds-Empty-Cup
      @McDonalds-Empty-Cup Год назад +6

      @@WarioWareFan01010you seem to act like consequences exist for the rich

  • @sporesisters
    @sporesisters Год назад +13

    Another connection that came to mind when mentioning that Kinger is a game designer that collects bug is that Satoshi Tajiri, the creator of Pokémon, was an avid bug collector and this hobby helped inspire his series. Also while typing this, Kinger autocorrected to Kingler which is the name of a pokemon for those who don't know, not sure if that means anything lol.

  • @jakubthegooguy
    @jakubthegooguy Год назад +173

    There’s actually another reference in his design his eyes are bloodshot, which suggests he’s been worked to the point of not sleeping which supports the theory

    • @bella_daze3092
      @bella_daze3092 Год назад +5

      Holy fuck you’re right 0-0

    • @dice9270
      @dice9270 Год назад +7

      But they don't need to sleep? If they get no mal nutrition then they also shouldn't get any strain on their eyes, it must be by the design of his new body

    • @jc_art_
      @jc_art_ Год назад +6

      "Guys if you look at Jax's design, you can clearly see that his eyes and teeth are yellow, which suggests that he was extremely unhygienic, as well as having jaundice"

    • @Rasyidi7
      @Rasyidi7 Год назад +10

      @@dice9270the new design both according to the official lore so far and the theory states that your costume is based on your original personality and other traits.
      kinger was overworked (his trait) and thus the design had eyestrains. But it’s not official that these are permanent so maybe not.

    • @dice9270
      @dice9270 Год назад

      @@Rasyidi7 official lore where was this stated it's based on their personalities cause that's a great detail of true

  • @WillButtlerYeets
    @WillButtlerYeets Год назад +136

    I feel like he’s not actually as jumpy and timid and we’re gonna find out he’s hiding something. Would be the perfect twist as the main villain.

    • @gongqinshen6576
      @gongqinshen6576 Год назад +12

      @UTTPJimmyyour name is litttle jimmy

    • @ourlordandsaviorsquirtle3278
      @ourlordandsaviorsquirtle3278 Год назад

      @UTTPJimmy shut up

    • @erca02
      @erca02 Год назад +15

      NOOOO MY BELOVED KINGER CANT BETRAY US LIKE THAT 😭

    • @Asmodeus_682
      @Asmodeus_682 Год назад +8

      Or he's acting insane to avoid abstracting

    • @Queggletank
      @Queggletank Год назад +6

      He is the white king so "his side" makes the first move

  • @RavenStarMedia
    @RavenStarMedia Год назад +64

    I applaud your use of It Just Works for one of the clips! Fantastic theory about Kinger! Also I'd love you to do more theories on how the other characters entered the game!

    • @WarioWareFan01010
      @WarioWareFan01010 Год назад +1

      And I have a feeling those higher ups are a certain Mouth and circle duo we all know and love.

  • @hakulives2613
    @hakulives2613 Год назад +70

    I absolutely ADORE this theory, but I have an extension to add to it:
    What if Jax is Kinger and Queenie's son?
    HEAR ME OUT.
    Imagine Kinger and Queenie having a kid: a precocious and mischievous, sometimes bratty but ultimately good-hearted little boy. Imagine that as he gets older, this boy turns out to be good at coding, like his old man: delighted, Kinger teaches this boy his craft. (This is why Jax has keys inside the game for various places: using his programming knowledge to unlock places!)
    Imagine the kid, as a late teen/young adult, learning that his mom and dad have gone missing in the middle of their big project snd, worried and curious, breaks into the office for answers. Finding a project headset, he puts it on, enters the game, and becomes Jax.
    Meanwhile, Kinger and Queenie obviously aren't doing well inside the game, but Jax appearing and the realization that their boy is stuck in this nightmare with them is the last straw: reaching her breaking point, Queenie Abstracts, and Kinger snaps, not only causing his instability but causing him to forget who Jax is.
    All the horror and loss causes Jax to become cynical and bitter, and his mischief takes on a cruel edge: he also distances himself from Kinger, partially to keep from reminding Kinger of bad memories (similar to the kid of a dementia patient not challenging their delusions) and partially because it hurts too much.
    Obviously, a bit far-fetched, but if it were true...

    • @cupcakepitcherfungulf4221
      @cupcakepitcherfungulf4221 Год назад +15

      And the ages of characters add up as kinger is 48 queener would mostly be around the same age and Jax is 22

    • @bella_daze3092
      @bella_daze3092 Год назад +13

      Far fetched but I am CLINGING to this theory. I fucking love it

    • @Minetendo_Fan
      @Minetendo_Fan Год назад +3

      One hole I can quickly find is that it’s not likely that father and son would be only 18 years apart (it’s confirmed that Kinger is 40 and Jax is 22)

    • @Asmodeus_682
      @Asmodeus_682 Год назад +8

      Well Gooseworks did describe Kinger as a dad on Tumblr apparently so while farfetched this theory is somewhat plausible

    • @Stanfordscienceman
      @Stanfordscienceman Год назад +8

      @@Minetendo_Fanthe first kinger age info was that he was in his 40S,it was revealed recently that he’s 48 specifically.

  • @nicholaspeterson6366
    @nicholaspeterson6366 Год назад +51

    Just saying this, but I just learned that an official tweet from gooseworks says that the queens name is Queenie not Queener

  • @jettsimmons7441
    @jettsimmons7441 Год назад +12

    I had the theory too that maybe Kinger was the creator of the Digital Circus, because of his sudden knowledge of the world, as Jax asked 'since when do you know so much about the digital circus?'

  • @xoxoAZURAoxox
    @xoxoAZURAoxox Год назад +8

    This is really similar to my own theory! However, I feel like they cannot get their headsets off because they are unable to move their physical body after being put into the game, rather than being transported into it entirely. I also think that Kinger went into the game to try and tell the participants about the exit / how to exit the game but ended up losing a lot of his memory when he got there / Caine got in his way somehow, prolonging his stay, slowly losing his memory more and more. Queenie followed him in once she found out but, ended up either sacrificing herself to save Kinger at some point or abstracted (caused by Kinger forgetting so much and not knowing what to do / having a crisis because she doesn't know how to get out, only Kinger knew).
    I am so interested to see where this show's story goes and learning about more of the character's backstory 😃

  • @Sotako511
    @Sotako511 Год назад +12

    I’m glad I’m not the only one spotting Queener’s crossed out door. She’s probably one of the Abstracted monsters down in the Cellar Ocean

  • @viral4983
    @viral4983 Год назад +15

    I believe Bubble is the NPC character that explains how to play the game/gives prompts on figuring things out

  • @adrynseidl2507
    @adrynseidl2507 Год назад +12

    I think Pomni was either a reporter or a private investigator looking for some missing people and her only lead was the headset, so she turned on the game to see if there were any clues on it. Also I think the part where they forget their names is intentional. It could have been a way to protect someone's personal information, after all Cains interaction with Pomni is similar to how other games start. We get introduced to the world we are entering and then we get a chance to give our character a name, one we can choose or have one randomly given.

    • @Sodelulu567
      @Sodelulu567 Год назад

      And you cant use your personal names in a game😦

  • @TheRandomMan001
    @TheRandomMan001 Год назад +23

    I would love to see more of your theories on these characters, and I will say your backstory if Kinger feels pretty solid. Of corse, time will tell how many shots it can take, but as if writing this it honestly makes a lot of sense.

  • @thechaoticthing4414
    @thechaoticthing4414 Год назад +10

    Yeah I'm curious how Kinger got Queenie abstracted
    Headcanon: Jax has a insect collection. Jax has insects like centipedes which he put in Ragatha's room. And Jax might've showed Kinger a insect collection to make him go insane and paranoid like Jax will release them into his room while Kinger slept..

  • @endo45
    @endo45 Год назад +13

    18:50
    If that’s okay, then yes. Your story writing is so addictive and fun to watch.

  • @wolfsanimated
    @wolfsanimated Год назад +46

    Can you please continue to make more amazing digital circus character analysis (I'm personally especially curious about jax)

  • @LunarMartin
    @LunarMartin Год назад +12

    I have a different idea, what if it scans the brain of people, and a copy of them stays in the digital world. The copy wouldn‘t know it‘s a copy and it doesn‘t break reality by having people dissapear into a vr headset. This would make sense as the last thing their minds would see is that computer from the pilot episode, but it would be weird because certainly people must notice new entities being introduced to the game acting like the embodiment of the beta testers conciousness
    Edit:
    It would also make more sense, as it wouldn‘t require the company to force vr headsets on him and his girlfriend to remove them from the world as he must have tried the game, which is why his avatar is in the game and also maybe leave open the possibility of having updates to the game in upcoming episodes

  • @gingerkitten13
    @gingerkitten13 Год назад +84

    I don’t want Kinger to have a heartbreaking backstory, he’s just too silly-goofy 😭
    And yeah, silly-goofy is definitely a word

  • @potahtwah9591
    @potahtwah9591 Год назад +6

    In "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream", Nimdok, in his forgotten past, created the elixir that keeps the humans alive. As Kinger was the longest spent in there with very little grasp on his sanity, perhaps there is a literary comparison to be drawn.

  • @nightwatch3889
    @nightwatch3889 Год назад +30

    "This ain't no yoga class so not super long stretches"
    _Proceeds to write a entire fan fiction explaining the entire lore of the whole series_

  • @Bicentennial007
    @Bicentennial007 Год назад +7

    Maybe jax never moving the inside of his mouth could be a metaphor for "lying through your teeth"

  • @space_planet
    @space_planet Год назад +36

    i wouldn't mind seeing a theory video on how people get in to the game

    • @Azure64248
      @Azure64248 Год назад

      @UTTPJimmy yeah... "Animations".

  • @sssspammywammy8319
    @sssspammywammy8319 Год назад +3

    The trope where the silly, usually not serious character with questionable mental health is the character with the most major role in the lore, is a trope I immediately saw with kinger.
    A trope I've loved since gravity falls and adventure time

  • @rileyanthony
    @rileyanthony Год назад +112

    Also did you know Jax is labeled as Pomni best friend that’s really interesting

    • @YkwhatIwannafuckJake
      @YkwhatIwannafuckJake Год назад +6

      Where did you hear that?

    • @Moximanu
      @Moximanu Год назад

      ​@@YkwhatIwannafuckJakemabey on the website

    • @theactionwhale
      @theactionwhale Год назад +24

      ​@webber4471 The joke merch advertisement they posted where it also has Jax's famous quote "You go girl"

    • @rileyanthony
      @rileyanthony Год назад +9

      @@YkwhatIwannafuckJake cartoon universe and the creator did character bios of each of their characters.

    • @Minetendo_Fan
      @Minetendo_Fan Год назад +7

      I would have thought Ragatha would have became Pomni’s best friend

  • @liviilazii7679
    @liviilazii7679 Год назад +1

    Bruh, these edits are sending me! How have i not found this channel before?? I'm so hyped for the next theories!

  • @brendoncrouse2837
    @brendoncrouse2837 Год назад +6

    The longer i watched, the more and more stuffed clicked together, which was so satisfying. Kingers' already my favorite character, and this just solidified that

  • @dumbcowboi8803
    @dumbcowboi8803 Год назад +25

    If theory is true this explains everything exept how Pomni entering the game. Could she be a wonderer or a witness to corporate crime or something else entirely?

    • @dumbcowboi8803
      @dumbcowboi8803 Год назад +3

      I was thinking more and realized it's not just Pomni but all other characters we met including Cosmo that entered after Kinger. So the company did something really sinister even after getting rid of main developer.

    • @Thispersonisreal
      @Thispersonisreal Год назад +6

      Her design is a jester, what if she was an entertainer, like a RUclipsr or something before she got into the digital circus

  • @92814323
    @92814323 Год назад +4

    My thought on this is that Cain is on of the original beta testers, and was also one of the first to abstract then recompile back into a playable avatar/character, due to his abstraction he gained the ability to manipulate the world on the level of a moderator/developer. and his unstable state is just leftover from when he initially abstracted.

  • @GwenDUNN-y4b
    @GwenDUNN-y4b Месяц назад +9

    Update on theory: Queenie was more than Kinger's girlfriend, she was his wife.
    Also she's the one who got him into liking bugs.

    • @GwenDUNN-y4b
      @GwenDUNN-y4b Месяц назад

      This has been confirmed with episode 3

    • @Miavoli
      @Miavoli Месяц назад

      Her liking bugs (glitches) could mean that she was a playtester as they like finding bugs... what if she was the first who got trapped in the game, Kinger wanted to save her and tried sending other people in to help, but ultimately he just wanted to be with her again so he joined the circus and maybe that made Queenie feel sad that he's also trapped so she abstracted.

  • @Che3zyGaming
    @Che3zyGaming Год назад +16

    Kinger is peak character design

  • @iraitzmm2571
    @iraitzmm2571 Год назад +9

    I have a theory: the queen was a very close friend of kinger (or even girlfriend but that is weird because they are from different colors) and the queen was more crazy than kinger is rigth now, so at one point the queen just got abstracted (and inside the basement) leaving kinger ultra crazy and alone

    • @Koshoeditz
      @Koshoeditz Год назад +1

      That’s racist, (you said that it’s weird she’s be his girlfriend because she’s a different colour) that could offend people

    • @iraitzmm2571
      @iraitzmm2571 Год назад +2

      @@Koshoeditz bro i said that because kinger is White and quenie is black, in chess they are suppose to be figthing each other. + kinger should be with the White Queen not the black one. Is the basics of chess😒

  • @alyx5491
    @alyx5491 Год назад +16

    Hey Finn, did you know that Kinger's game show quote is also a reference to Gooseworx's animated short called 'Elain the Bounty hunter" which is her second short involving game show vore.

  • @Dion06
    @Dion06 Год назад +7

    I feel that Kinger will have a similar character development as the Ice King/Simon

  • @svgaming263
    @svgaming263 Год назад +10

    I would love to hear your theories about the other characters backstories aswell!

  • @holybamboozler
    @holybamboozler Год назад +3

    Thinking of Kinger as a lead programmer (which seems to be very likely) makes me relate his design to that one really old Windows XP user icon of chess pieces. I have no idea if that's what they were going for, but its an interesting thought

  • @scale455
    @scale455 Месяц назад +4

    I'm surprised how accurate this theory is now that I've watched episode 3-

  • @Ariesmatic
    @Ariesmatic Год назад +5

    This is the first video ive been recommended by you, and youve gained a subscriber! You are very clear and thorough with your explanations and Im having a great time watching :)

  • @frogchamp.
    @frogchamp. Год назад +20

    Hey finn did you know that the gameshow in a stomach line is ALSO a reference to Elaine? Another gooseworx project?

    • @frogchamp.
      @frogchamp. Год назад

      ​​@jellylynneyes of the universe, im a long time gooseworx fan (:

    • @junjiecheng4431
      @junjiecheng4431 Год назад +1

      finn:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @pundertalefan4391
    @pundertalefan4391 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hole heck, I didn't even notice the intro connection. Nice catch!
    I love this theory, btw. What a great story. If the show doesn't explain it, I'm gonna consider it canon.

  • @alternativeaccount6568
    @alternativeaccount6568 Год назад +6

    In a few years we're gonna think "Back when we thought kinger was the maker"

  • @thatguygold
    @thatguygold Год назад +54

    I personally have the exact opposite theory for kingers backstory, we see that when pomni sees herself her puplis dilaite, she likes how she looks, if kinger was wealthy, important, but faceless, he probably wouldn't like being a faceless king.
    I suspect he would have been a very poor person, probably one of the first to enter, as hes been here the longest, so he would have been made a king in the digital world, as someone very poor they likely would have had to deal with a lot of incects in their home, in a way, the incects would feel like home, hence why kingers pupils dilate when he sees the gloink queen, it feels like home to him in his broken brain, the queen was likely a partner who went in with him.
    If we take the idea of people liking their appearances further we can make a few assumptions about the rest of the characters
    -zooble - likey couldn't physically express themselves how they would like, as they are based on a mix and match toy, and also likely not cis gender, as the creator stated that not even zooble themselves know what gender they are.
    -ragatha - probably very self conscious about their looks, so became a doll, likely something they played with in their childhood, possibly also abused, since ragdolls cant be broken by beating them, also they had cleaver in their head in the teaser.
    -jax - a furry
    -gangle - probably depressed, and had trouble displaying their emotions, their comedy mask allows they to (at least temporarily) be happy, but their tragedy mask allows them to express themselves fully.
    -kaufmo - someone who wanted to make others laugh, but also someone who likey needed approval, so became a clown to get as many laughs as possible
    -pomni - honestly I've got no clue personally.
    -jax(for real this time) - probably someone who constantly gets into bad situations, weither becuase of bad luck or becuase hes an asshole, he became a rabbitoid, hes fast to escape any mess, and rabbits are associated with luck.
    Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

    • @TheFnFan
      @TheFnFan Год назад +8

      I like this theory, the only thing I disagree with is what you think pomni’s backstory is, as you’ve made a single critical mistake
      Gooseworks said pomni is 25

    • @kaeyoyoroll
      @kaeyoyoroll Год назад +5

      I thought that when she looked in the mirror it was just cementing in the fact that she's stuck in basically a video game, and that this her new appearance and home forever

    • @thatguygold
      @thatguygold Год назад

      @TheFnFan shit, forgot about that, fair point

    • @thatguygold
      @thatguygold Год назад +1

      @kaeyoyoroll thing is your pupils dilate when you see something you like, and throughout the rest of the episode her pupils are very small becuase she's in a stressful situation.

  • @bella_daze3092
    @bella_daze3092 Год назад +5

    1:42 I feel like the “insect collection” could be referring to bugs in a game. Perhaps he was a beta tester and that’s how we got trapped.
    Edit: Okay. NOW I’m further in. Now I’m curious to see more of this

  • @cardinalhamneggs5253
    @cardinalhamneggs5253 Год назад +1

    I like how your theory about the corporate side of Kinger’s backstory basically lines up with the original cause of the Death Game Incident and Kayaba’s partial insanity in _SAO Abridged,_ another animated series about people trapped in a VR game. To wit:
    Guy (Kinger/Kayaba) creates amazing VR world with help from romantic interest (Queenie/Rinto). Guy pitched game to a company (C&A/Bethesda) that can fund its creation. Company rushes guy to finish game, resulting in a major issue (people’s minds are trapped/in-game death translates to real life) which the company overlooked as a major issue. Only differences are: in SAOA, the bit about trapping people in the game was an intentional addition by a half-crazed Kayaba in an attempt to pass the death bit off as being a “master plan” of some sort; Kayaba willingly entered the game in order to help people survive once he saw how idiotic most of the players were; and Rinko never entered the game at all.

  • @j.corbygaming
    @j.corbygaming Год назад +15

    Goosworkz confirmed the ages of the main 6, and Kinger is 48, so that could fit lead developer age if he has been working on it for years

    • @kevinmcginn5972
      @kevinmcginn5972 Год назад +4

      And it would explain the graphics, considering the technology being used at the time was limited, and we do see like old fashion computers, which were the most advanced thing for kingers time and given the fact that VR was a concert that existed back then, but didn’t really go anywhere cause the technology wasn’t great and we also don’t know the year exactly but could off of the technology and the age of the rest of the character since the rest of them are in their 20s while ragitha is her 30s could be used to make a rough estimate

  • @MixingClixing
    @MixingClixing Год назад +5

    gonna be honest, this might be the most Lore accurate and realistic theory on TADC that I've seen, every piece fits together like a puzzle.
    one question does remain, at what point did kinger code in bubble? i never heard you talk about bubble's character until you connected them to the bible

  • @kingfishproductions3476
    @kingfishproductions3476 Год назад +15

    Great theory but the question still remains how did the other five get in after words and why did Pamni placed the head set on

    • @sodiepop666
      @sodiepop666 Год назад +1

      ​@UTTPJimmythose aren't animations. Those are Microsoft PowerPoints

  • @sapphireaurora9634
    @sapphireaurora9634 Год назад +5

    I've said Kinger is my favorite character and I'm glad other people are seeing that as well

  • @calebditch8648
    @calebditch8648 Год назад +2

    I totally agree with all of this, and yes, I would love to see your theory episodes on how everyone else got trapped, I would love to see what you've come up with❤❤

  • @RussellToons
    @RussellToons Месяц назад +7

    This is slowly becoming true

  • @randomnessanimation6831
    @randomnessanimation6831 Год назад +4

    Yay! A video dedicated to Kinger, my favorite character!

  • @1ightningstormOfficial
    @1ightningstormOfficial Год назад +5

    This is such a great theory! I totally wanna see your theories on the rest of the cast!

  • @fallonsky_
    @fallonsky_ Год назад +1

    absolute off the wall stretching scenes until they break having ass good time. great shit keep it up man

  • @ColeHudek
    @ColeHudek Год назад +7

    Please do a video on Gangle, she is one of my favorite characters, have a good day❤
    BTW: great videos keep it up 👍

  • @finalfantasylord1
    @finalfantasylord1 Год назад +5

    anyone else find it strange that Pomni showed up in the form of a clown just as Kaufmo the clown became a monster? a show like this feels like something bigger is going on that tickles the look for hidden details senses

  • @dazzledoodle
    @dazzledoodle Год назад +3

    That's such a good theory, by far the deepest theory I've seen on this show, a bit stretchy but I really like it, I'm gonna subscribe

  • @thepigvillage
    @thepigvillage 11 месяцев назад +1

    The idea of each of their forms represents their worst flaw is really interesting! I’d like to see you make a video on that for each character!

  • @aleescudo4413
    @aleescudo4413 Месяц назад +6

    HE DID IT
    HE GOT IT RIGHT
    PROBABLY

  • @spikey950
    @spikey950 Год назад +2

    These funky little characters are so fucking cute bro i cant get over it. They're all so charming

  • @gabef4746
    @gabef4746 Год назад +6

    I don’t think it’s an insect collection, but an incense collection like a bunch of scented candles

  • @TheAllSeeingEye2468
    @TheAllSeeingEye2468 Год назад +5

    Zooble doesn't have a face either so does that mean she's also important?

  • @ThePizzaPagel
    @ThePizzaPagel Год назад +18

    I know this is a very dorky and gen z thing to say but Kinger is literally me.
    I mean:
    -Says random bullshit
    -Is insane
    -Acts tweaked out but doesn’t do drugs
    -Austic

  • @sammig.8286
    @sammig.8286 Год назад +1

    That scene with the queen x-ed out on the door: I thought it was a picture of Kinger and was really confused. Makes more sense now that it was a different character.

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034 Год назад +5

    Kinger does seem to have knowledge consistent with a programmer

  • @intrepidhero
    @intrepidhero Год назад +2

    My guess is Caine created the office space because he either has or had access to the building security cameras at one point. He know this is the world the human residents came from but doesn't know what's outside the building. So he doesn't know what to put on the other side of the building's exit doors.

  • @AzariahMarinaStarcaster
    @AzariahMarinaStarcaster Год назад +8

    I highly encourage more theories on how the others entered the game! Jax, Pomni and Ragatha especially

    • @Thispersonisreal
      @Thispersonisreal Год назад +1

      Pomni was likely an entertainer, like a twitch streamer or RUclipsr, the jester design kinda supports it, this is a job to entertain people
      Either this or she's somehow related to kinger as jesters are usually servants of the king

    • @AzariahMarinaStarcaster
      @AzariahMarinaStarcaster Год назад

      @@Thispersonisreal Interesting thoughts!

  • @drago6568
    @drago6568 Год назад +1

    This is insanely detailed. Love ur stuff

  • @xXpigiepicguy123Xx
    @xXpigiepicguy123Xx Год назад +4

    I can't ignore the bfdi assets

  • @kandyeggs
    @kandyeggs Год назад +2

    I wonder if this isn’t the only instance of the amazing digital circus. What if there are other “servers” hosted by other Caines? Maybe some Caines are far better at caring for the humans, and maybe some are exceptionally good at the opposite 👀

  • @dragnofmetal
    @dragnofmetal Год назад +3

    A great theory! Who knew so many pieces existed for theorists after just one episode.
    Here's hoping we get a full season to explore.

  • @Matheus-gc5fn
    @Matheus-gc5fn Год назад +1

    kinger: has completaly random information here and there
    finnthepony:

  • @pnevmastudio6968
    @pnevmastudio6968 Год назад +3

    Me feeling dread as I hear meat circus

  • @wolfrosefrost5475
    @wolfrosefrost5475 Год назад +1

    A theory I’ve got is that Kinger was originally the lead developer of the VR portion of the Amazing Digital Circus, working with a team of AI developers that would create Caine to help debug, run, and maintain the game.
    Another theory I have is that the reason the character don’t remember things is cause of a bug from piece of code that made the mind forget it is supposed to be in a human body as the mind generally doesn’t take well to something being different such as an organ that they don’t recognize. The bug itself causing them to forget their human memories and eventually abstract.

  • @hierophant_requim
    @hierophant_requim Год назад +3

    1:05 FOUL. 😭

  • @mrinfinity5557
    @mrinfinity5557 Год назад +2

    Man, this is a great fan theory! Bubble will love eating it (she eats all the good ones before caine sees them)

  • @ohfairyairy3626
    @ohfairyairy3626 Год назад +4

    Honestly, I can’t decide who I like more, Kinger or Gangle. They’re literally both sides of my personality 🤣

  • @jellyleo6491
    @jellyleo6491 Год назад +1

    I’m so happy to see someone talk about the xed out rooms

  • @dim307
    @dim307 Месяц назад

    this is the best theory i’ve seen so far, i love this vid! and kinger. he’s my fav. ty for the good vid! i do think that the humans are still alive tho, its more like the scan creates a clone.
    also congrats on this aging very well so far 😊

  • @Eric69299
    @Eric69299 11 месяцев назад

    Honestly I've been watching this over and over and I've watched a lot of kinger theories because he is one of my favorite characters And I'm gonna say yours is probably the best that I've seen

  • @skylarrossspeedpaintstheory
    @skylarrossspeedpaintstheory Год назад +1

    Box Theories in BFDI would be a funny reference

  • @zenmanlovesgames9906
    @zenmanlovesgames9906 Год назад +2

    Hey Finn! Did you know, that Kinger’s ‘gameshow’ quote is a reference to another one of Gooseworx’s animations, Little Runmo I think?

  • @jesterscircus.3490
    @jesterscircus.3490 Год назад

    It makes a lot sense so far, we will have to wait until the next episode

  • @cheezeYT
    @cheezeYT Год назад

    Gangle: I think it’s an nest
    Kinger: *has a mental breakdown*