Experimenting with Budget Injection Molds
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- A series of experiments in making cheap molds for an injection molding machine to avoid CNC milling costs
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I had good feelings for that epoxy putty, glad it worked!
Thank you for the recommendation 🙏
@@EvanMonsma you might also want to check out high temperature 3d printing resin (i.e. druckwege type d high temp is resistant to up to 260°C) and printing the mold directly might help you in reducing flashing.
@@clockworkvanhellsing372you would just need to make sure the print is super dialed in as the layer lines on a negative would be really difficult to take care of
Holy Shit that is a huge compliment coming from you............... but also good job my man
I don't speak English but with your slow and calm way of speaking I can understand something! Thanks Evan for what you do, almost 20k well deserved!! Support from Italy🇮🇹
Thank you! I love to hear that!
Di dove sei? Se ti interessa lo stampaggio a iniezione fai da te scrivimi, io sono a cesena.
@@dadoVRC Grazie ma non mi interessa, seguo Evan solo perchè sono appassionato di fai da te in generale.. 👨🏻🔧
well, i thought i was done watching RUclips for the evening. i was wrong.
Sorry :)
@@EvanMonsma never, love watching your journey
Me too lol!
Ok, this has absolutely made injection molding seem so much more attainable for me
It is a lot of fun
Keep in mind that you're breaking bonds when you recycle plastic; if you get some virgin beads to mix into your recycling it will probably help quality.
Ooh good to know, I'll mess around with that. The next step for me is definitely ordering some pellets to melt down
There’s something so beautiful about watching someone creating with such apparent passion. Thanks Evan
Thank you 🙏
I stumbled upon your channel with the Will Osman handle, and I'm so happy that I did. Your visual style and storytelling is distinct and relaxing, differentiating your channel completely to most stuff out there, and I'm here for it. Thank you for pouring your heart and soul into your projects and the videos about them. It's very inspiring to see all the upcycled and repurposed bits and materials :)
Thank you! I appreciate that
This is excellent work, even more so that a lot of it is improvised with available materials.
I have to recommend Robert Tolone here on RUclips for learning more about mold making and casting. He's the absolute best for techniques and materials and I've learned so much from him. His approach would be to make one large silicone mold to produce a dozen or more pieces at once.
Thank you! I love Robert Tolone, he and Crafsman are my go-tos for moldmaking
I still think the most underrated thing about this channel is the amazing music. I feel so lucky that RUclips not only pushed some of your videos my way, but that you are someone who wants to share creativity with the world. Keep being awesome.
Thank you! That means a lot
You should leave easter eggs for future videos in the bokeh. You don't have to I just think it would be engaging. Cool molds 😎the last frame is pure art. So satisfying.
There's so much stuff that ends up in the background on accident, there's always a bit of easter eggs :)
letsgoo new vid
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Keep up the videos, Im excited to see what you keep bringing us
man its amazing to see your injection setup and the will your putting into those props, i kid you not when i say you are an inspiration, making for the sake of making is the greatest motivation a creator can have (imo) and i really apreciate you and your content, amazing filmography and editing, love you color grading its so cozy, im really happy i found you
Thank you! I appreciate that a lot. Glad I can provide some inspiration
Fuck yeah dude. Best channel I've found yet. It's like you're doing stuff that's inside my head---shit I've thought of doing but haven't bothered. Thanks for sharing Evan.
Thank you! haha I like the idea that my channel is just diving into every intrusive thought for makers
Awesome video! Short, sweet straight to the point. The Crafsman tested using 3D printed resin for injection molds, which also seemed to work pretty well! I imagine if you wanted to make a mold of a physical object you had, you could scan it into an .stl file and make the mold from that, but it would lose all of the surface texture of the original sculpt.
Dear Evan, I love your Videos! Please consider that Epoxy often contains carcinogenic substances, which are harmless when hard/dried but can be absorbed by the skin while liquid or breathed in when polished (the dust can be carcinogenic).
Please stay healthy ❤
Thank you I'll keep that in mind!
The Copilot pieces are shiny now!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Casting a mold out of epoxy is pretty dope.
Its very satisfying haha
Great to see you pumped Evan. Good luck with the move!
Great video!! Really enjoying this dive, always been on the fence about injection moulding but this is swaying me
I really enjoyed the video Evan... thank you. Keep up the great work.
Super cool to see this all unfold and change! I'm looking forward to seeing how this progresses and what you learn along the way!
Evan watch out, look behind you!
theres something about your videos that make me watch them
This is my favorite comment
This has turned today around, this looking super good.
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i might have to make one of these
Very fun concepts here :D love seeing projects I haven't thought much of before. Love following along in the process
Creativity and effort is fun!
That epoxy is game changing. I didn't even think of using putty that's so much easier! Fuck dude I can do this! Injection molding doesn't seem near as hard anymore! Thanks man!
Im currently doing the same thing, cnc molds are definitely your best bet. Im an eng student so learning CAD was second nature but i highly recommend learning Fusion 36O getting your molds ready to be CNC and heres the secret, Trade Schools usually have young highly passionate CNC wizards that would love to work on small community business projects. Definitely worth taking a trip to ur local College and talk to the shop manager since getting CNC work can get expensive. Best of luck
I hope the world recognizes your effort and rewards you with resources so you can keep this up :) We need more people like you, especially in RUclips.
By the way, what mic are you using?
Something I think most plastic projects benefit from is a post processing step where they sit in acetone vapors for some amount of time. Evens out ridges and leaves a glossy finish 👌🏿
I love your thumbnail style. The feeling is amazing. 👍🏽🙂
This episode calls for a beer!
You can make the vent small enough that the air can still get out but the plastic will not flow through. It will be hard to measure, but try to get the vent to only one thousandth of an inch thin, or less, at the edge of the mold surface, then you can let it open up into a larger vent. So hopefully it will vent and you won’t have to cut off vent plastic
another evan banger
I've been doing my own sort of research on how to make budget injection molds of good quality...
I didn't consider epoxy putty... It makes sense, it's just going to be really hard to use for the level of detail I'm looking for, however... On some of the larger things I plan on making, it might work...
Thanks for spreading this information ;) it's super useful!
goated with the juice channel, dude got me wanting to do my own molds
It might be worth looking into PLA pellets. It's the same plastic that any entry level 3D printer uses, it comes in many different colors, and when compared to filament it is extremely inexpensive. It also melts at a reasonable temperature, so compared to the buckets it will likely be easier to mold.
I really like the score.
I have been wanting to do something like this with bad 3d prints. Look forward to testing these things with pla. Great video.
Nice work. I like the jb weld mold. Thinking outside the box on that one and it paid off.
I love this new channel
Love the videos man. I’m new to 3d printing. Trying to find a way to recycle my filament. Let’s just say Turning the waste back into a spool will be to time consuming and costly for me. The main issue is the grounds gets stuck because it’s not in pellets when trying to extrude into a spool the grounds go through a funnel into a screw to a nozzle. This injection molder solves the issue of the ground waste getting caught up just melting everything in one big reservoir. Time is money right? Anyways thanks for inspiring me and many others!
Can’t wait to see your ideas and the final design! Keep it up boss!
Absolutely- dropping the failed casts and scraps right back into the barrel is so satisfying
You can use liquid epoxy to smooth out the inside of the JB weld form. This will ensure nice finish of the part. People do this with 3d prints, there are a lot of videos on how to do this on youtube. You should definietly check it out.
Is is very good and I am learning a lot. Thanks man!
Thank you 🙏
Subbed for this series, really interested to see these experiments. I have a few mills so I've been eyeing small scale injection molding for a while but haven't had a real need for one just yet. Are you planning on milling your own molds eventually or outsourcing?
Definitely more coming! I would love to mill the molds myself but I don't really have the space or funds for a CNC setup right now, will probably outsource for the moment
You should look into casting polyurethane into silicone moulds. Edited: changed from silicon to silicone.
Will check that out, thank you!
Coming up, you shouold totally give it a shot with Dices! =D
Quack! Damit, I have enough projects!
When I worked in a thermoplastics factory, we largely used ABS and PVC for our extrusion and injection molds since they were the easiest materials to work with. PVC can make nasty fumes if it's the wrong type, but ABS might be worth experimenting with to avoid the ripples? It requires a high temp to melt but it molded better than anything else we used
You could also try doing a plaster mold, youd need shellac, bar soap(mold release) and plaster. Its what I use for molds and I havent tried using it to fill out plastic but Id assume itd be pretty heat resistant since it is a ceramic.
I was looking into that to maybe approach in this video, but not super familiar with it. Are you using plaster of paris?
Yes, heads up tho when trying to create the mold from the 3d print I remember I ended up breaking the print because it wouldn't release. I think it had something to do with the plaster shrinking when losing moisture or the rough texture of the print.
If you use a vacuum chamber to remove air from the resin and put the mold back in the vacuum chamber after you pour in the resin, you shouldn’t have any air bubbles
Wait, you have a resin 3d printer but don't print the molds themselves? Just CAD out your design with a small runner, a vent and print both halves. Clamp between aluminum (needs to be more rigid than wood, they are rather brittle) and you'll get perfect results. Use a high temperature resin made for moldmaking - Siraya Sculpt transparent is often the cheap go-to. Great for prototyping and very small production runs (and with how your models look, there isn't much to chip away, so you could get 50 - 100 parts out of it with correct pressure). Remember to put a gate on your part - here you inject straight into it, which makes it later a pain to remove the runners - it'll both look bad and take lots of time to clean up. A gate would let you inject faster (since all you need to wait on, is the gate to freeze). For the vent - it needs to be very shallow, to allow air to pass through, but not the plastic. It needs to be like 50 microns deep, and wide, but very short. I'm in the desktop injection molding business, so I can give you a few pointers, so you don't repeat my mistakes
Thank you for the advice! I don't have a resin 3D printer, those masters came from shapeways. I've been looking into it recently though, seems like its gotten significantly cheaper in the last 5 years so I might have to invest in one to make some molds. And yeah gang molds will definitely be the plan for final production. A gate is totally something I should do- wasn't familiar with that part of the process before. Thank you for all the pointers
Dang, man, this is sick!🫡
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good job, best wishes
this give me an idea to recicle my failed pla prints....
this makes me want to get myself an injection machine :D
Great vid, really inspiring ! You should check TheCraftsMan Steady Crafting video about cheap injection molding, about 2y ago, if you have not yet. And other ones from this guy on the same topic
I'm curious about the deformation of thé epoxy mold over time. Would be great to have a follow up video.
New sub for sure
I love the crafsman! He's a big part of the reason I set out on this project haha. Yeah we'll see about the epoxy over time. Realistically for the final production run I'll get an aluminum mold made when I have the final designs nailed down
Get this man a 3d printer
Hey, you could also make molds with a resin 3D pointer if you have one. I used this technique in school with pretty good results.
Evan, I wanted to go to bed, now I can’t for another 8 minutes :(
Sorry :)
This is rly cool :D
I thought you were making your own beyblades for a second, but unlike most other RUclipsrs, i didn't click away after figuring out i was wrong 🖖
Let it rip!
have you tried 3D Printer filament waste? as a source of plastic aka spool ends and failed prints. It should be easy to obtain if you have no printer as most people will just be dumping it anyway. It should give you a wide options of colours and types of plastic to make object from.
Even the way you speak reminds me one certain Spirited Man, bro.
Cast the Apoxy mold into aluminum, with a crucible and recycle cans
very cool, any other plans for DIY prototyping or manufacturing for the game?
Absolutely, there'll be a lot more. Custom embossing and screen printing metal tins is a big one coming up
its not an evan monsma video if there is no wooden frame
Gotta use scrap wood on every project lmao
Are you using a vacuum chamber for mold casting with resin? I know that kind of casting still takes longer than injection molding, but you shouldn't be throwing away nearly half of them due to bubbles.
The ripples could be from the mold being too cold in the beginning.
This is really cool! What is the machine you used yo inject the plastic into the moulds?
waht're you using as the heat chamber fo the plastic? can you link to it?
I have a press, curious to see if I Can adapt the heating chamber to it. :-) small ad cheap is beyond my budget right now lol, but I like to research stuff. ;-)
and what about ABS or PLA from a roll of 3d printer filament?
Would totally work, definitely something I'm gonna try
what about just inyect a hard wood mold? its cheaper and its really hard. There are cnc cheap like any 3d printer.
So we could bring you *any* mold to adeptacon…?
Possibly 👀
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Hey, psst, wanna buy some injection-molded parts? I got some right here in my car.
Hehe I'm the miniature spaceship dealer
“Pouring liquid reading & hoping it cures without air bubbles”? Is that really honestly what you’ve been doing?
You do know that both the resin and the mold contain air, right? Lazily dumping your resin in there was NEVER going to give you a passable result.
What you want to be doing is spraying mold release into the mold, vacuum pumping the air out of the resin before pouring into the mold then once it’s full placing your mold in a pressure pot. This can easily be done for little money and at small scale.
I'm aware- but for large batches in gang molds, my thinking is that a large pressure pot setup isn't gonna be the best workflow for me compared to the fast demold time of the injection molder. Definitely something I wanna get set up but not the end goal for this specific project
I hope the world recognizes your effort and rewards you with resources so you can keep this up :) We need more people like you, especially in RUclips.
By the way, what mic are you using?
Thank you! I appreciate it a lot. My mic for voiceover is the Rode Podmic, I would highly recommend