Audia Flight FL Phono preamp...end game?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 2 года назад +5

    Nice to see that Italy has some audio that is world class.

    • @ount252
      @ount252 2 года назад

      Sonus Faber is out of Italy. That is mainly just loudspeakers though.

  • @techrider2088
    @techrider2088 2 года назад

    Congratulations. Enjoy! Happy to hear your excitement.

  • @paulpavlou9294
    @paulpavlou9294 2 года назад +2

    I’ve been running my end-game phono/pre-amplifier for many years and that is a Vacuum state FVP-5 preamplifier which has what I consider to be one of the finest Phono stages built into the preamplifier. I have a resister installed on the inputs and I am using a Audio Technical step up transformer as my heavily modified Nakamichi MC1000 reference pickup’s output voltage is only 0.2 mV with an impedance of 3.5 Ohms. its also dead quite and makes sweet music on my modified Goldring Lenco with Syrinx PU3 Arm. The Phono stage can be purchased separately from “Custom Analogue Audio” in Australia for just AUD $1550 it’s the JLTi phono preamplifier Mark 5B an absolute bargain. See the review in the Stereophile 2015 review and recommendations. Thoroughly enjoy your videos, keep them coming.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Nice, thanks for sharing!

    • @LetThereBeSound1
      @LetThereBeSound1 2 года назад +1

      +1 for the classic Syrinx PU3 tonearm from Scotland! I have one too! It is brilliant!

  • @analoguecity3454
    @analoguecity3454 2 года назад +3

    Sweet! I can't afford it unfortunately, I have to use the lower end "schit mani" ! But it's fantastic for the low price! If I could afford this baby, I'd upgrade in an instance! Wanna take the time to say that you're channel is absolutely fantastic 👏👌😀! Very happy to be one of your subscribers, eventhough some of my comments are long-winded (sorry) ! I get a nice education everytime I watch!

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 года назад

      if you get the chance try and get the Tom Evans microgroove x £600 but second-hand would be a lot cheaper nothing is better under £1,000 then that.
      another candidate second-hand should be good the dynavector Mk 4. £1000 new and is a current gain phono stage not voltage gain. that's only applicable really if you got MC at very low voltages, would benefit more or less.

  • @timleelim9930
    @timleelim9930 2 года назад +7

    This is an outstanding phono stage. Clearly improved sound when compared to the Parasound JC3 I have been using for a long time, itself an already superb unit at its price point.

  • @jonthurston8275
    @jonthurston8275 2 года назад +2

    The new glasses made me think of Michael over at the 45 RPM Audiophile channel!

  • @rtacconi
    @rtacconi 2 года назад

    After this nice review and some research I ordered a used Audia flight FL, I was not convinced of the PS Audio Stellar phone and its remote.

  • @bryantaylor2946
    @bryantaylor2946 Год назад +1

    Fabulous review! The Audia Flight Phono is $6950 in Canada in Canadian Dollars (about $5300 USD current exchange rates) a bargain!

  • @unityoc
    @unityoc Год назад +1

    7:15 why do so many manufacturers hide load settings on the back of the unit, behind a door and selectable via jumper? Is there some sort of audio quality reason for that? It's awkward as hell. I'm not for one second suggesting my Pro-ject Phono Box S3 B plays in the same league as the Audia, but at least it has loading and gain selectable on the fly on the front of the unit with a little light indicating what is currently set.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Год назад

      Because it is extremely expensive to make a selectable knob in the front. The whole project is redesigned to allow that do if you are using jumpers and plastic switches you aren't going to want them in full sight....I would for convenience! ;-)

  • @codygrayland
    @codygrayland 2 года назад +3

    Running a Manley Chinook, it's not dead quiet, however it is insanely quiet or a tube unit, about $3K, mated with a Kiseki Purple Heart.
    Thanks for your channel. :^)

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 года назад +1

      try and keep away from tube phono stage's especially in the first gain stage, just stick to the preamplifier being tube and solid-state for the phono stage.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 2 года назад +2

    For that price it should include a time share:)
    Good stuff man

  • @stimpy1226
    @stimpy1226 2 года назад +5

    If I were in the market for a phone preamp I would love to hear the Audia. I must admit that I am more than satisfied with my PASS XP-15 phono preamp and XP-22 line stage pre. The only issue that I have with this combination is that my prior tube preamp the AudibleI Illusions Modulus 3B with the John Curl phono board had just the slightest amount of air around the instruments that the PASS does not.

    • @thomasnoe1193
      @thomasnoe1193 2 года назад

      I'm in a similar boat. Have the XP-22 and was considering the XP-17. This makes me very curious about the Audia Flight as well.

    • @stimpy1226
      @stimpy1226 2 года назад

      @@thomasnoe1193 if you are considering going from the 15 to the 17 which is an improvement, then you must be an ultra critical listener because I am thrilled with the XP 15. This is just my opinion.
      Good Luck

    • @thomasnoe1193
      @thomasnoe1193 2 года назад +1

      Oops, sorry ... I wasn't clear. I currently have an iFi Phono3 phono pre, not an XP-15. When I upgrade the iFi, I was strongly considering the XP-17. BTW, for US $1k, the iFi is an excellent phono stage, but I know I can do better (within reason, of course).

    • @stimpy1226
      @stimpy1226 2 года назад

      @@thomasnoe1193 Understood

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Great stuff. That is the magic of tubes!

  • @Kairo1985
    @Kairo1985 2 года назад

    I have a D. Klimo LAR Gold Plus phono stage, although not original. I bought a kit of it from AliExpress and after lots of research and time, put the unit successfully together. I wouldn't dare run it on an MC cart as it would most likely end up being too noisy, but the MM cart I have is only slightly audible from close up on my Avantgarde Acoustic Duo Mezzo XD speakers (107db sensitivity). So I consider this a successful project. Very much enjoy the sound.

  • @zsm4995
    @zsm4995 2 года назад +1

    Yess, Excellent

  • @2011RAIMONDS
    @2011RAIMONDS 2 года назад

    My favorite is ML 585,5, sound quality outstanding.

  • @monochromios
    @monochromios 2 года назад +1

    Hey Guido, congrats, great piece of equipment. Lehamnn Black Cube is one of the best products on the market for price to perfomance. I'm taking a look at the Gold Note PH 10 with additional external PSU and an Auditurium 23 step up transformer: I'm enjopying a lot the sound from the old and trusty Denon DL 103 and I believe the upgrade from Lehmann to Gold Note+AU23 will be a big, important step up.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      Great choices there!

  • @rtacconi
    @rtacconi 2 года назад +1

    Great review, I would buy used like you did (it does not seems popular in the UK), otherwise is out of my budget!

  • @latheofheaven
    @latheofheaven 2 года назад +1

    WOW!!! I know you do not usually recommend something this expensive, but I can clearly tell you frigg'n *LOVE* this l'l puppy! 😁 And, coming from YOU particularly, that is very good to know, thank you sir! By any chance have you been able to listen to the IFI Phono 2...? I happened upon some stellar reviews, similar in tone to yours here, and I was able to find one new although they've been discontinued. I was able to get one for about $450. The newer model, the IFI Phono 3 is $1000! BUT... along with many other reviewers, I have been *VERY* impressed with this little phono amp. It has like a million micro switches for both MM and MC which gives you a lot of choices, AND it is Class 'A'! The sound on my system is quite impressive, very dynamic (which you mentioned about this one) and the soundstage and separation is excellent! I wish I could post a link to my system so you could get an idea how it is set up, but usually any posts with links are automatically removed. Just briefly, my system is comprised of two tall completely open baffle dipole line arrays with 13 drivers a side, each channel powered by a separate amp (dual-mono) A third amp, a Crown 2502 400/side drives the two 15" dipole woofers. The system is obviously designed with a very large and spacious soundstage in mind. But, this little baby you are talking about sure does sound tempting! I would LOVE to hear it! 👍

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your enthusiastic comment! It's nice to read. No, I haven't tried it but intrigued! You can send me a link by email (address in the info tab of the channel)

    • @latheofheaven
      @latheofheaven 2 года назад

      @@anadialog Thanks Bro! 😁

  • @klaymoon1
    @klaymoon1 Год назад +1

    Great review. I think it will be very helpful if you can tag your videos with Gold Medal, Silver Medal, etc.

  • @AD-fj8ue
    @AD-fj8ue 2 года назад +1

    I am looking for a phono preamp for my Linn LP12 with a Krystal cartridge. Do you think that one is a good choice, or do you have other ones in the back of your mind? Thanks Andi

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      I love the Audia, still have it...usually I change after a few months! I think it would be a great paring.

    • @AD-fj8ue
      @AD-fj8ue 2 года назад

      @@anadialog let me know in case you want to sell it ;-) Cheers Andi

  • @fortheprofit2186
    @fortheprofit2186 2 года назад

    I'm running a opamp based phono stage, diy. You can swap the opamps to tune it to your signature sound.

  • @_F5X
    @_F5X 2 года назад +1

    thanks for your very informative videos, may I ask you if Audia Flight FL Phono preamp will also work with Grado MI low output cartridge (Output voltage: 0.5mV, Load impedance: 47k ohms) thanks

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Yes, no problem. My Dynavector is 0.3 and its a MC. You will need a MM section and if gain is not enough you have the 10db boost which should nw more than sufficient. Otherwise, a good old step is transformer is the way to go.

    • @_F5X
      @_F5X 2 года назад

      @@anadialog low output with MC is never a problem but with MI wich has 47k ohm input impedance and in most cases not more then 48 db gain it's a bit problem. it would be perfect if 7k ohm input impedance can be set with MC custom capacitor value :)

  • @jbcasalta8622
    @jbcasalta8622 2 года назад +1

    There is a small French manufacturer who builds very good tube phono stages : Halgorythme

  • @martingraz9549
    @martingraz9549 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the informative benchmark.
    As I recall you also benchmarked the SpL Phones
    Can you compare the two phono stages regarding dynamic, resolution, stage and separation, would be an interesting benchmark
    Thanks an best regards from Austria
    Martin

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  10 месяцев назад

      No, I never “benchmarked” any phono preamp except for this one which is still today my reference. The SPL was only extremely powerful. Not much else to signal. I sold it immediately after.

    • @martingraz9549
      @martingraz9549 10 месяцев назад

      @@anadialog thanks for the quick reply 👍

  • @carlos2bass
    @carlos2bass 2 года назад +1

    Looks very interesting, besides the PS stellar which other phono stages did you compared to? I think you mentioned Pass but not which model.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Past models, not Pass. Besides the PS audio, in recent times the Lehmann Black Cube SE (cheap but great), the SPL phono, the one integrated in the 2 Luxmans, the one innthe EMT 948, the Manley Chinook in my system plus obviously several more in shops, friends' houses and shows but those in the end don't count. There is also another special guy under test but can't say anything at the moment...

    • @carlos2bass
      @carlos2bass 2 года назад

      @@anadialog thanks a lot Guido! And I assume you being Italian have also heard the Gold note P10. Sounds like a great deal that you had. Congrats and enjoy!

  • @sergiokwitko
    @sergiokwitko 2 года назад

    Hi Guido, have you compared it to ASR Basis Exclusive phono preamp?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      I have, not in my studio but in a very similar set-up, so can't say for sure but wasn't shocked considering their fame.

  • @anonymex22
    @anonymex22 2 года назад +1

    Hi, I was wondering if you can help me, I had a SA-9800 with an unbelievable preamp stage with a mm resistance settings going up to 100Khz with the best used capacitance settings available, in my case it was set to 150pf/100khz with my MM cartridge. Unfortunatly, he is out of order (For the moment...). So as you are aware about preamp, do you know something that have this famous resistance settings about 100Khz with a 150pf capacitance for MM cartridge in real time easy front settings, full analog components of course till i manage to renew the SA, the proffesional Preamp i have currently hasen't these settings unfortunatly? Also regarding this pre-amp, why is it taking 1 minute to be operational? (lamp preamp have generally so small lamp that they don't need pre-heating) Thanks in advance, Have a good day, Rgds

  • @a3marketing991
    @a3marketing991 2 года назад +1

    Do phono preamps make much of a difference in sound quality if you're running it through a preamp, such as the Schiit Freya?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +2

      Indeed, phono preamps are the most important aspect of vinyl playback together with the cart (and the tonearm, but after these two) IMO

    • @TEST-rt1ui
      @TEST-rt1ui 2 года назад +1

      @@anadialog but what's about the turntable? Ususally its the most extensive part. I'm asking because I searching for an upgrade to my turntable. You changed from a midrange to highend turntable - does it make a difference?

  • @jon4715
    @jon4715 2 года назад +2

    What cart were you using? Great review, and gorgeous looking phono stage. Interesting internal construction.
    If you're looking for a lower-cost alternative, you can't beat the Hagerman Trumpet MC. Would be a very interesting review to contrast with this one.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      I tested it with my Dynavector 20X2L, EMT TSD15 sfl, Kiseki purple heart, Ortofon 2m mono SE

  • @4vinylsound
    @4vinylsound Год назад +1

    Do you ever play music so we can hear how good things sound?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Год назад +1

      All my record videos after that. Here is a good example: ruclips.net/video/RgvhLD98EVk/видео.html

  • @matzeflamingos
    @matzeflamingos 2 года назад

    If you have the possibility maybe you will do shootout with the Lab12 Melto2

  • @analogkid4557
    @analogkid4557 2 года назад

    I wonder how it compares to the top of the line Parasound phono preamp?

  • @rasardo1
    @rasardo1 2 года назад

    One of the best's I've heard is made in Italy, but is very expensive : GOLD NOTE PH-1000. It is very difficult to beat, but it's you shoud spend almost 10.000 Eur :)

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      It's made 20km away from my home. Yes, a little too expensive for just a phono stage.

    • @rasardo1
      @rasardo1 2 года назад

      @@anadialog , it always depends on what you are aiming for and how much you are willing to spend. Still, one very best, at the moment.

  • @johnsimmons5056
    @johnsimmons5056 2 года назад

    The distributor for the USA is in Canada. It's listed at 6500 canadian which is appx 5100 US. Do you find that your Analog sounds better than your digital rig ?

  • @stimpy1226
    @stimpy1226 2 года назад +3

    Dead silence for a phono preamp is as close to impossible as I have ever determined in my long history as an audiophile.

    • @jonthurston8275
      @jonthurston8275 2 года назад

      At about half the price of the Audia Flight, my Cyrus Phono Signature X with external PSX/R2 power supply is also dead silent. I could barely believe it!

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      Well obviously If you turn it up to max volume you will hear some hiss but compared to other models it is extremely quiet

    • @stimpy1226
      @stimpy1226 2 года назад

      @@anadialog What I got is 120 Hz buzz at full volume standing about 2 foot away and I could hear it but not very much. I usually never have to get above 80 dB for very high SPL ‘s. It’s a very minor ground loop issue and I guess if I really wanted to get rid of it I would have to buy a Synergistic Research or Shunyata Grounding Systems.

    • @stimpy1226
      @stimpy1226 2 года назад

      That’s probably normal active component noise at full volume??

  • @gregorypatton360
    @gregorypatton360 2 года назад

    The sutherland phd was a game changer for me. I just dont see how a phono stage could get better

  • @rogeregisley9221
    @rogeregisley9221 2 года назад

    I dare you to compare it to an Ifi Zen phono preamp which cost £150/$180/170Euros. Try to use the Ifi balanced 4.4 mm output. Then it will interesting to see if (at more 10 times the cost of the Zen ) you have the same opinion.

  • @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88
    @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 2 года назад

    Regarding dead silence...it would be interesting to put , say, 1Khz on input and watch output by oscilloscope. Think that hiss will emerge. But, still, respect for idea and for price.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      If you increase the volume a lot you will hear a low hiss but absolutely not comparable to the majority of other similar preamps.

    • @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88
      @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 2 года назад

      @@anadialog Sure. I am aware of that. But , It would be nice to conduct such measurements, as I said.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      Here is present a complete test. You must register to view the files for free:
      manualzz.com/doc/23516065/audie-fight-phono--%C2%A33500-

    • @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88
      @colloidalsilverwater15ppm88 2 года назад +1

      @@anadialog Nice. I will see it tomorrow, thanks a lot. 😃

  • @yippie6862
    @yippie6862 Год назад

    For the price it better be good!

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Год назад

      I know prices are insane but this is nothing compared to for example a CH precision phono preamp a guy mentioned here below. Retail price $91.000. That is where I say it better be good.

  • @asaholey
    @asaholey 7 месяцев назад

    Can you upload a recording without music?

  • @GlaciaDay
    @GlaciaDay 2 года назад

    Ooh I just auditioned this phono stage last week. Got to say I love the sound for the price, but to a guy who has a bunch of cartridges like me, tweaking with those plug-in resistors is quite painful to be honest.

    • @GlaciaDay
      @GlaciaDay 2 года назад

      Also as I auditioned it for my secondary phono stage, I didn't find it to be that impressive to be honest. My main phono stage (CH Precision P1+X1) is way better in almost every aspect. Audia's tone might be warmer and thicker and that's it. I think I'm gonna get a tube phono amp instead. But still sound of FL Phono would be great if, if only you could get it for the retail price you mentioned in the video.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      True...that is a little difficult...

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      Woah! What a comparison, the CH Precision plus power supply is a 50.000$ pre-phono!! My end game is clearly for similar products, even double the price but not 10 times!

    • @GlaciaDay
      @GlaciaDay 2 года назад

      @@anadialog well upon a second thought, this was a bit unfair comparison. But the difference is there, so probably diminishing return still doesn't come into effect even around 5000-6000 euro range. Hi-end Audio man, it's like an endless journey that you'll never reach the end..

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 года назад

      just by yourself a cheap scope, and you can dial in the plugs on the money, with a capacitor and resistor make sure the resistors after the capacitor.

  • @capitanoachab66
    @capitanoachab66 2 года назад +1

    Gold Note ph-1000?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      I would like to test it. They make it a 20km from my house! Obviously it is in a different league costing double or more

    • @sergev9043
      @sergev9043 2 года назад

      @@anadialog ph-10? )

  • @coin777
    @coin777 2 года назад

    Comparison VS the Stellar Preamp please

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      As I said, the Stellar is great, especially for the price, I was lacking some dynamics. The music was a little constrained. For the rest well presented, nothing to criticize except for that darn remote control.

  • @LuxAudio389
    @LuxAudio389 2 года назад

    And here I foolishly thought you were going to keep that barely broken in PS Audio Phono Pre-amp.😉 This thing is huge. It doesn't come in cool cat black ? 🐈‍⬛

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Barely broken in? I kept that baby for more than a year.
      Yes, it comes in black and it is even more beautiful! www.google.com/search?q=audia+flight+phono+black&client=ms-android-samsung-rev2&source=android-browser&prmd=isvn&sxsrf=APq-WBtM-RsiywO7T479hbatZSshGurgKg:1645259898973&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6_9zerov2AhU9SvEDHSB8AscQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=412&bih=682&dpr=2.63#imgrc=ePoGZxCEN1lYQM

    • @LuxAudio389
      @LuxAudio389 2 года назад +1

      @@anadialog yeah, it does look nice in black. When you get a chance. Pop the covers off and post them on your community page so we can see it's glorious engineering🤓

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Here are some pics in this article: positive-feedback.com/Issue48/audia_flight.htm

  • @raymondchan3587
    @raymondchan3587 2 года назад

    DIY Lehman clone, absolutely worth it.😂

  • @hoobsgroove
    @hoobsgroove 2 года назад

    signal-to-noise ratios not that impressed how much?

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      It's 90db A weighted. The PS Audio was 74 for MC

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 года назад

      @@anadialog 74 db is it... the PS, they should call it the bs 😂 if you gets a chance to try the Tom Evans 25th anniversary don't miss the chance! might be able to borrow one from a shop. that is 108db s/n what is equivalent of 120 DB of dynamic range I think yours js at an educated guesses is about 102db dynamic range looks like quite a good unit. 🇺🇦

  • @rEdf196
    @rEdf196 2 года назад

    I do want a phono preamp, somewhere between $300 to $1000. but this Audia Flight is definitely way far in the Lamborghini department. yikes.

    • @jorgegvb
      @jorgegvb 2 года назад

      Check out Lounge Audio. Probably the best you can get in the lower price range.

    • @jaysworld5378
      @jaysworld5378 2 года назад

      Sim Audio 110lp

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      The Lehman black cube SE with separated power supply!

  • @pinkrudy
    @pinkrudy 2 года назад

    end game as in...until the end of the year? lol

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад +1

      Exactly 😂😂😂

  • @paulomontero12
    @paulomontero12 Год назад

    It would be the end for me if a had a wife and she find’s out how much i pay for it. i could go to a south American on a sex trip of my life for this phono preamp price 😂

  • @omanyaki402
    @omanyaki402 Год назад

    No balanced input sorry no dice for this level equipment.

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  Год назад

      It's all relative. I used to have all balanced Pass Labs...after diwcovering my single ended mastersound preamp (not phono) I sold the whole thing immediately

  • @TheSoundrookie
    @TheSoundrookie 2 года назад

    But you also say that cassettes and chinese walkmen sound good.... ????

    • @anadialog
      @anadialog  2 года назад

      Yeah, in fact I am burning now my Nakamichi and Studer...lol! I never said that. I said their are a decent starting point for youngsters and newbies. I absolutely did say that cassettes sound good, actually, fantastic! Need the right gear though...

    • @TheSoundrookie
      @TheSoundrookie 2 года назад

      @@anadialog Dude, you know I love your channel more than attacking the fridge. It was a joke.