The 1st Les Paul I owned was one of these. I worked in a music store and traded it in on something only to buy it again. I owned it 4 different times over 10 years!
Gibson should be paying Trogly a monthly commission. I was anti-Gibson for a while but slowly I've come back into the fold and now have a couple of nice LPs and a Grace Potter Flying V. I'm now a huge Gibson fan, though there are some things I wish they would improve upon, and it's almost entirely due to The Trogly Guitar Show!
I remember seeing the 25s in all their glory at GC in downtown San Diego back when every hotshot was playing Hotel California to show off while trying one. 😅
On the crest of 300k Wow this channel has come a long way! No doubt cranking out consistent daily informative videos is one thing but basically, Trogley's has become the place for everything Gibson! The place on the entire net you can call an authority on Gibson guitars! Congrats on your soon coming 300k milestone you earned it!
I know with certain colors to affect a certain top coat finish it usually requires an undercoat that will make the top coat look a certain way. I'm wondering if the gold being darker has something to do with that. Possibly an ebony coat before they painted the gold.
@@clarkbabin9799 goldtops used to have bronce powder to make the gold colors. You are right, in the metallic colors like candy apple red and others they used a metallic basecoat
Just a personal view of Les Paul models. I've had a 91' classic and '97 standard but once I played a brand new regular custom (2023 model) last year in a guitar shop it had this premium feel and sound to it for example you can play a power chord in high volume and still sounding clear and filling to my ears. For me the custom was overall just a better guitar. Even listening to this demo for example I can tell you that the custom is more satisfying to my ears. It is just a different sounding guitar to the rest of the models.
Always wanted a guitar made the same year as me, C 0178 was released on the very same day. I'm now wondering if it's still out there and what sort of condition it's in, probably better condition than me lol.
Nice, that was the year I graduated HS! I had a '79 Les Paul Custom at the time, and that was the result of saving for several years. Had never heard of Guitar Center back then. If I didn't already have an alpine white Les Paul Custom, I'd buy that in a heartbeat, but I have too many Les Paul's already. Not as many as you, of course! You have more for sale than I own! :D
I enjoyed the quick Les Paul history within this video. It summarised a lot and covered several decades of significant changes very succinctly and didn't need to get into minutiae. That is a very nice guitar with a beautiful shade of gold. Things like a multi piece neck and taller frets are a positive for me. It sounds great. If I'd replaced the damaged tuner I might have tried taking the case back off the original one with the Gibson lettering and swapping them over so that they all matched. It feels unlikely that the tuner case would have been damaged and be the cause for replacement. My preference is for guitars like this, without lots of decorative inlay work or an intensely figured top. Thank you.
Could the discoloration of the binding by the neck and the strap button be from a strap resting against the binding when hanging from a hook or possibly folded over the guitar in the case?
I wonder if the binding was separating in the area and the repair is what is shoring up in the blacklight (would superglue discolor the clear coat under backlight?)
It's surprising how many touch ups showed up in the black light test. it's all the more reason for black lightning all guitars. if a person has access to a black light. they should use it constantly. because it's an invaluable tool to have for any serious guitar collector or retailer.
Nothing beats a gold top for me. No other colors, no other flames, quilts, nothing. I don't know why but they just look majestic to me and thankfully I have one and as I wanted it has P90's.
They came with those pickguards back in the day. Classics had slim taper necks, mimicking the Standards that were produced in 1960. Ceramic pickups in those originally.
@@marijanmikic3881 Thank you for the info. I have read that these were weight relieved but this GT Classic is the heaviest guitar I own. Strats and PRSs are all much lighter.
Im not a huge gold top fan and never really knew why. They just didn't seem to do it for me. But seeing this one with the darker color next to a standard one, I know why. I like that darker gold so much more.
Not for nothing you should keep this one in your collection just for the fact that it was reflected to show people that it doesn’t have to be perfect and that somebody mod it to make it play perfectly just a thought❤❤❤
I love this show, I need my daily dose of guitar. However, it must be admitted that Gibsons are far too expensive for what they are. Just take the Schecter brand, and you get an instrument that not only has the best features but is also much more modern for a much lower price.
@@marquitust2874 What's annoying is that with brands like Gibson, you're paying a lot for the brand and its history. When you look at other brands, they offer a much better quality-to-price ratio, and the difference is huge. However, it also depends on whether you're more of a player or a collector or reseller. It's perfectly fine to be a collector or reseller, but what I mean is that someone who actually plays will go for a better quality-to-price ratio rather than something that costs a fortune and is not as good.
Perhaps the E stands for Error. You mentioned finish issues and they went back and forth to QC. Perhaps the E means he found an error meaning it had to be sent for further work.
This is crazy because I just bought one from Carter's Vintage in Nashville today. I just saw this post after I bought it. The one I bought has a serial number that starts with an A. It looks to be original, but it has top hat style knobs????
Have one. A - serial number, one piece mahogany neck, original frets. Somewhere on the Internet I found those supposedly were made of Honduran mahogany and Indian rosewood, and were made in small quantities, around 1500 guitars. I don't think those are original pickups, they don't sound like Shaw's. The groud wire was added later. The non logo tuner appears to be original on those guitars. Unusual tuner bushings also differentiates these gutars from the rest of the era. Great guitar anyways. I'm not selling mine. 🙂 Just my 2 cents. Keep up documenting.
The SG was called a Les Paul for a short period of time. until Les Paul complained to Gibson about it. so Gibson decided to call it the SG. standing for solidbody guitar. since that is exactly what it is.
@@dfkman I mean you can use a treble bleed setup on any pot. Doesn’t matter what brand. I mean maybe the Dimarzios have a different taper that he prefers which I could get but other than that no clue.
I often watch your product presentations with great interest, joy and excitement. But this time you are completely wrong. I own one myself and it has been through a lot over the last 40 years. At Murphy Lab a comparable aged fake look will cost a fortune. You are far too distracted by its appearance and minimal signs of wear. You are missing the true quality of this guitar. Mine has a serial number that starts with C and it has Tim Shaws with ink serial numbers. I own over 50 electric guitars but every time I play my 30th anniversary Les Paul my heart melts. It is a fantastic sounding Les Paul, but probably not with the wrong pickups. My LP also has a three piece neck and this one has the same dark mahogany color as the body. Very noticeable was the use of light pore filler on this model range. Please allow me to give you some advice: forget about the missing binding over the fret wires and open your ears to enjoy the sound of this guitar with real Tim Shaws. Frets, like car tires, need to be replaced from time to time. Best wishes from Austria, Stephan
People are always mocking the ageing . To me , it’s daft to have weight relief . Taking a piece of timber making a beautiful instrument that resonates from that timber that takes 50 years to grow . Then drilling big chambers and loads of holes in it .
I think that manufacturers need a 'best of both worlds'. A special edition product draws additional attention to it yet they can't also give it features that will limit its saleability. P90 pickups are popular nowadays and their sound is appreciated but I recall a long period where they were seen by many as 'old tech' and less desirable. At the time this model was marketed the majority of players would have wanted a Les Paul to come with humbucking pickups and P90s would have been broadly less appealing. It might be different now.
I have what some may call a ‘fetish’ for Gibsons & Epiphones built in the last few days of November and the first week of December. Go figure! As for what the E stands for - I haven’t a clue. For me: ECSTACY - LOL! ♐🎸💎
Wow, I’m only 1/4 of the way through and my head is spinning…🫠. “Comparison is the thief of joy” comes to mind as well as “Ignorance is bliss, but Kowledge is power”…..🤷♂️😁👍
You're a pedantic nerd so let's clear something up. No gibson guitars are prehistoric as there is a written history about each of them. Yes it's only a word and we're talking symantics but if Gibson couldn't even get that right how can you be sure about anything else.
pre-historic. Before the Historic Collection. It is a fan-given term - they were simply called "Les Paul Reissue" at that time. My videos are a great way to learn about Gibson history if you're open to learning
Not for nothing you should keep this one in your collection just for the fact that it was reflected to show people that it doesn’t have to be perfect and that somebody mod it to make it play perfectly just a thought❤❤❤
The 1st Les Paul I owned was one of these. I worked in a music store and traded it in on something only to buy it again. I owned it 4 different times over 10 years!
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Might I suggest that after the 2nd or 3rd time buying it--that you just keep it?
Gibson should be paying Trogly a monthly commission. I was anti-Gibson for a while but slowly I've come back into the fold and now have a couple of nice LPs and a Grace Potter Flying V. I'm now a huge Gibson fan, though there are some things I wish they would improve upon, and it's almost entirely due to The Trogly Guitar Show!
Totally agree
The GC Silver 25th is one of the best LPs I've seen.
I remember seeing the 25s in all their glory at GC in downtown San Diego back when every hotshot was playing Hotel California to show off while trying one. 😅
On the crest of 300k Wow this channel has come a long way! No doubt cranking out consistent daily informative videos is one thing but basically, Trogley's has become the place for everything Gibson! The place on the entire net you can call an authority on Gibson guitars! Congrats on your soon coming 300k milestone you earned it!
It sure is a long way from the monotone reseller carpet videos 😊
I know with certain colors to affect a certain top coat finish it usually requires an undercoat that will make the top coat look a certain way. I'm wondering if the gold being darker has something to do with that. Possibly an ebony coat before they painted the gold.
A Black undercoat usually helps painting with metallic colors.
Was told by painter metallic colors got a metallic base coat like solver or gold.
@@clarkbabin9799 goldtops used to have bronce powder to make the gold colors. You are right, in the metallic colors like candy apple red and others they used a metallic basecoat
In 2052 I'll be 81 years old, the 100th anniversary LP will cost $28,000. I'll start saving tomorrow!
If you're a bit short, the Epiphone inspired by Gibson version will only be $25,000.
….more like 128,000
$1.75/day in a savings account and you’ll get there. 😂
In 2052 I’ll be dead.
Me too as of being that age in 2052!
Just a personal view of Les Paul models. I've had a 91' classic and '97 standard but once I played a brand new regular custom (2023 model) last year in a guitar shop it had this premium feel and sound to it for example you can play a power chord in high volume and still sounding clear and filling to my ears. For me the custom was overall just a better guitar. Even listening to this demo for example I can tell you that the custom is more satisfying to my ears. It is just a different sounding guitar to the rest of the models.
Always wanted a guitar made the same year as me, C 0178 was released on the very same day. I'm now wondering if it's still out there and what sort of condition it's in, probably better condition than me lol.
Depends, maybe its stage iv and your off good😅
I was born in '58. No chance for me.
@@86Sporty58 There are some very expensive options for you but zero for me as I was born in 1966.
Nice, that was the year I graduated HS! I had a '79 Les Paul Custom at the time, and that was the result of saving for several years. Had never heard of Guitar Center back then. If I didn't already have an alpine white Les Paul Custom, I'd buy that in a heartbeat, but I have too many Les Paul's already. Not as many as you, of course! You have more for sale than I own! :D
I enjoyed the quick Les Paul history within this video. It summarised a lot and covered several decades of significant changes very succinctly and didn't need to get into minutiae.
That is a very nice guitar with a beautiful shade of gold. Things like a multi piece neck and taller frets are a positive for me. It sounds great. If I'd replaced the damaged tuner I might have tried taking the case back off the original one with the Gibson lettering and swapping them over so that they all matched. It feels unlikely that the tuner case would have been damaged and be the cause for replacement.
My preference is for guitars like this, without lots of decorative inlay work or an intensely figured top. Thank you.
I had a 25/50 Les Paul in black. One of the most versatile Gibsons I've owned.
I would love to see a collab with Alex and A Flash Flood of Gear on Japanese LP copies.
I'm not usually a fan of gold tops but I really like the darker finish. Great shape and sounds great too. Nice job!
Could the discoloration of the binding by the neck and the strap button be from a strap resting against the binding when hanging from a hook or possibly folded over the guitar in the case?
I wonder if the binding was separating in the area and the repair is what is shoring up in the blacklight (would superglue discolor the clear coat under backlight?)
It's surprising how many touch ups showed up in the black light test. it's all the more reason for black lightning all guitars. if a person has access to a black light. they should use it constantly. because it's an invaluable tool to have for any serious guitar collector or retailer.
Sounds sweet and looks great.
Where’s the best place to find your stuff for sale thx
The Lester Paulfis.....the best guitar in the world in my very unimportant opinion.
Lester Polsfuss*
OK, sorry last one. I absolutely love this store. It’s beautiful right up my alley. Thank you for sharing this.
I had one of these , a GT one piece neck from the A run.
It was a spectacular LP…!!!
But alas…it got away from me…🙁
yes - this guitar is out of this world!
Nothing beats a gold top for me. No other colors, no other flames, quilts, nothing. I don't know why but they just look majestic to me and thankfully I have one and as I wanted it has P90's.
What do you think about the first fretboard inlay at the first fret.
PS. Did they save the old tuner.
I have a 2004 LP Classic GT. What does the "1960" on the pick guard mean?
They came with those pickguards back in the day. Classics had slim taper necks, mimicking the Standards that were produced in 1960.
Ceramic pickups in those originally.
@@marijanmikic3881 Thank you for the info. I have read that these were weight relieved but this GT Classic is the heaviest guitar I own. Strats and PRSs are all much lighter.
@@Fireguy- Yes they are, Swiss cheese releif, but they still can weigh much.
Have a chambered Les Paul that is still heavier than my Strat or Tele.
The hardware looks chrome rather than nickel, which I think is relatively unusual for a Les Paul with an ABR-1? Or have I got that completely wrong?
Im not a huge gold top fan and never really knew why. They just didn't seem to do it for me. But seeing this one with the darker color next to a standard one, I know why. I like that darker gold so much more.
I’m with you on gold tops…but I’m still really not a fan. “Different strokes for different folks” comes to mind. 😁👍🤷♂️
Hey @Trogly , do you have a video on any of those 94s? I'm racking my brain trying to remember what they looked like at all.
Not a dedicated review - no, but we’ve covered the series in internet videos
Not for nothing you should keep this one in your collection just for the fact that it was reflected to show people that it doesn’t have to be perfect and that somebody mod it to make it play perfectly just a thought❤❤❤
This is a terrible example. Wrong pick ups, bridge, tail piece, tuners, refret and 3 piece neck.
Yay weekend vids!
I love this show, I need my daily dose of guitar.
However, it must be admitted that Gibsons are far too expensive for what they are. Just take the Schecter brand, and you get an instrument that not only has the best features but is also much more modern for a much lower price.
Brands are just about likings, the best brand will not be the same for everyone.
@@marquitust2874 What's annoying is that with brands like Gibson, you're paying a lot for the brand and its history.
When you look at other brands, they offer a much better quality-to-price ratio, and the difference is huge.
However, it also depends on whether you're more of a player or a collector or reseller.
It's perfectly fine to be a collector or reseller, but what I mean is that someone who actually plays will go for a better quality-to-price ratio rather than something that costs a fortune and is not as good.
@@alexdenton6586 yeah gibson prices are not the oned they used to be. You are correct
I’ve been watching Trogly too much, I knew we would be talking about real MoP inlays on the initial shot of the guitar 😂
Really miss the chapters 😔
Could the E stand for experimental? Jon
Les Paul rocking unwaxed P-90's, yes please!
Perhaps the E stands for Error. You mentioned finish issues and they went back and forth to QC. Perhaps the E means he found an error meaning it had to be sent for further work.
Some cool anniversary models, there 😎🙂
This is crazy because I just bought one from Carter's Vintage in Nashville today. I just saw this post after I bought it. The one I bought has a serial number that starts with an A. It looks to be original, but it has top hat style knobs????
Such a great looking goldtop! Are metal jackplates standard for this model? I was expecting to see white plastic.
Metal is standard.
Have one. A - serial number, one piece mahogany neck, original frets. Somewhere on the Internet I found those supposedly were made of Honduran mahogany and Indian rosewood, and were made in small quantities, around 1500 guitars.
I don't think those are original pickups, they don't sound like Shaw's.
The groud wire was added later.
The non logo tuner appears to be original on those guitars. Unusual tuner bushings also differentiates these gutars from the rest of the era.
Great guitar anyways. I'm not selling mine. 🙂
Just my 2 cents.
Keep up documenting.
Same here and I sold mine 1st one but I won't ever sell my 2nd one!
This things in pretty good shape for its age overall, nice one!
Butter 🧈 butter 🧈 butter
Parkay
Fleischmanns@@styrenebuilds6851
I can't believe it's not butter
With IMPERIAL tuners...
Imitation vegetable oil faux butter spread (TM)😂
Great seeing you at Sweetwater today brother I regret not getting a pic but didn’t want to bother you with the family.
The SG was called a Les Paul for a short period of time. until Les Paul complained to Gibson about it. so Gibson decided to call it the SG. standing for solidbody guitar. since that is exactly what it is.
Perhaps the E was for "Embellished" since it is a 3 piece body, not 2?
There’s one in Reverb but it looks like a gold top due to the finish yellowing.
So 60 was the regular Les paul, 61 was the sg les paul!
I don’t understand the snake oil behind Adam’s Dimarzio pot? CTS makes those pots for Dimarzio… lol.
Maybe he uses it with a treble bleed or something?
@@dfkman I mean you can use a treble bleed setup on any pot. Doesn’t matter what brand. I mean maybe the Dimarzios have a different taper that he prefers which I could get but other than that no clue.
Come on 300k subs!
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That's a sweet gold top cool features 🤘
The E you talking about might be a B incomplete?…
I always called it Ga. Tech gold, or old gold.
I often watch your product presentations with great interest, joy and excitement. But this time you are completely wrong. I own one myself and it has been through a lot over the last 40 years. At Murphy Lab a comparable aged fake look will cost a fortune. You are far too distracted by its appearance and minimal signs of wear. You are missing the true quality of this guitar.
Mine has a serial number that starts with C and it has Tim Shaws with ink serial numbers. I own over 50 electric guitars but every time I play my 30th anniversary Les Paul my heart melts. It is a fantastic sounding Les Paul, but probably not with the wrong pickups. My LP also has a three piece neck and this one has the same dark mahogany color as the body. Very noticeable was the use of light pore filler on this model range. Please allow me to give you some advice: forget about the missing binding over the fret wires and open your ears to enjoy the sound of this guitar with real Tim Shaws. Frets, like car tires, need to be replaced from time to time.
Best wishes from Austria, Stephan
The bridge, tail piece and pick up covers are nickel on the two that I have owned.
I think the “E” stands for exclusive
I'm glad I kept mine.
Maybe the E was a 3 in code for three piece body.
I always get scared when trogly does a 1982. I am afraid he will have one with my birthday, and I will have to buy it. lol
lol I bought one of the demo shops because of this! DS77
The point of the cutaway looks like it’s the wrong angle. Like a chibson ( obviously it’s not) but it just looks off to me. Like a Heritage.
Are you familiar with the book of 'burst? Gibson sunbursts.
I like it. It's in good shape for a 40 year old guitar.
People are always mocking the ageing .
To me , it’s daft to have weight relief . Taking a piece of timber making a beautiful instrument that resonates from that timber that takes 50 years to grow . Then drilling big chambers and loads of holes in it .
Was 1984 the last year Gibson made the 1-piece mahogany necks?
Wow! Just wow
One off the last mohicans! 🎯
I almost bought one of those at the time.
E is for Export? Maybe???
There goes trogs excitementt 9:46 !!
brent hinds from mastodon has one, its beat to shit, looks amazing
Can’t help rolling my eyes when you say a perfect guitar like that’s not good enough for your collection 😅
It’s odd that they made an anniversary model of a 52 without P90s. I get why they changed the bridge.
No it's not.
@@ChrisShortyAllenWhy not, Chris? Interested in why you say that. I’m no expert but just seems odd on the face of it.
@@aforssell All this guy does is disagree with everything I comment 😂 To each his own.
Well it's not what is termed a reissue. Just an anniversary product with varying specs.
I think that manufacturers need a 'best of both worlds'. A special edition product draws additional attention to it yet they can't also give it features that will limit its saleability. P90 pickups are popular nowadays and their sound is appreciated but I recall a long period where they were seen by many as 'old tech' and less desirable.
At the time this model was marketed the majority of players would have wanted a Les Paul to come with humbucking pickups and P90s would have been broadly less appealing. It might be different now.
Looks like a $100 alibaba special.
I have what some may call a ‘fetish’ for Gibsons & Epiphones built in the last few days of November and the first week of December. Go figure! As for what the E stands for - I haven’t a clue. For me: ECSTACY - LOL! ♐🎸💎
Fret NIBS?
It's been refretted.
‘82 is the best year.
Oh wow another Les Paul
56 gold top was were its at & black beauty and a 59 burst…and apart from the new Murphy labs…throw the rest in the bin…
I need a poopy brown les paul.
The bigger head stock is definitely better looking , it’s the Gibson flag .
Howdy all!!!
Les Paul’s are just way too heavy, sick guitar tho
E for ee bah gum
Just my opinion, but those pickups sounded thin and tinny to me. Didn't care for them.
A frend of my brother's had a 30th anniversary gold top - and it had the word 'Anniversary' engraved on the pickguard. The 'E' mystery?
Fu do fu do fu do
Z is for late
Wow, I’m only 1/4 of the way through and my head is spinning…🫠. “Comparison is the thief of joy” comes to mind as well as “Ignorance is bliss, but Kowledge is power”…..🤷♂️😁👍
You're a pedantic nerd so let's clear something up. No gibson guitars are prehistoric as there is a written history about each of them. Yes it's only a word and we're talking symantics but if Gibson couldn't even get that right how can you be sure about anything else.
pre-historic. Before the Historic Collection. It is a fan-given term - they were simply called "Les Paul Reissue" at that time. My videos are a great way to learn about Gibson history if you're open to learning
Check your own pedantic gauge. It's well high.
Even with the 1-pc mahogany neck, that thing still screams Norlin from the grain fill haha
I've had 2 of them and the grain fill is a bit hard to look at...😪
Not for nothing you should keep this one in your collection just for the fact that it was reflected to show people that it doesn’t have to be perfect and that somebody mod it to make it play perfectly just a thought❤❤❤