You may have ruffled some feathers Vincent, but as consumers we appreciate the blunt honesty. 90% of reviews in ANY category are fluff reviews, real reviews are a dying breed. Don't change a thing!
Haters gonna hate. They're all butt hurt that you called them out for missing and/or glossing over this issue in their so called reviews. They all jumped on the seemingly increasing Q9FN best TV of 2018 bandwagon, dishing out 5star, 10/10, reference status awards etc. and they now look foolish for it. You're a gentleman and a scholar sir. Keep up the fantastic work.
I’ve seen throughout the forums people saying you should apologize to said reviewers and you have, fair enough. But I see it as completely unnecessary. You called out what we as consumers would have regarded as trusted review sites. There was nothing personal or in any way derogatory about your remarks. Seeing said reviewers then lambaste you and call your motives and integrity into question, regarding your calibration business, seems all the more personal to me. If they were worth their salt they’d have been more concerned with the issues you had raised and put as much effort into rectifying their reviews and addressing said issues. The fact remains that you have consistently been the best television reviewer out there for some time now and have provided us consumers with with a level of knowledge and critique scarcely seen elsewhere. I only hope that continues and those who would so quickly move to attack you take a leaf from your book.
T K well bloody said! I'm yet to read the comments by other reviewers so don't know to whom you are referring but I'm not surprised that Vincent's honesty and integrity ruffled feathers in some quarters. Keep up the great work Vincent!
The main website that complained was AVForums. They awarded Q9FN a REFERENCE badge. To a TV that purposedly avoids sticking to reference curves for brightness. Vincent should not be the one sorry about this.
I, as a true movie enthusiast, think you have the right mentality for a professional calibrator, Vincent. Getting a picture to look 'awesome' is not professional, that's not what I'm paying for as a consumer of a calibrated picture. I'm paying to get a picture that resembles the monitor that Tarantino, Nolan, Thomas Anderson etc watched while creating their masterpieces. I want to see exactly what they want me to see. I don't want any colors to 'pop' unless that's what was intended. I don't want Samsung or any other company to alter any of these pieces of art that I'm watching on my television just because they'll sell more TVs in the store to the average non-enthusiast, I want the content as close to the original form as possible.
DuudeWhatDoesMineSay What about eye acuity and daytime? The only way you are going to get that kind of precision is if you have the same eye issues as the mastering guy at the same time of the day they sealed the project.
In my opinion, Samsung has never been aimed at the caring customer. They've always been way over saturated, and now we have the overbrightening issue. Don't apologize. Keep perusing perfection with your excellent reviews.
Got a bit teary eyed myself during the last few minutes... Found your channel a few months ago and learnt alot from you. Really love your enthusiasm and professionalism in all your reviews and videos. Have a well-needed break Vincent, just don't doubt yourself, your well-reasoned, professional voice is needed in this community.
Vincent - Rock on! I'm an AV buyer for a small regional dealer and find your reviews invaluable when I evaluate competing products. Your enthusiasm, knowledge and candor are a breath of fresh air. Thank YOU!
No need to apologise in my opinion. You are being honest and constructively critical. This is beneficial to us Consumers. Keep doing what you are doing.
Vincent I really really appreciate how informative and knowledgeable you are about tv's and reviews. As a Best Buy employee that works in the Magnolia home theater department I try to teach consumers about colour accuracy and how tv's cannot reach the mastered nit content so they have to find a way to scale it down for a tv outputting at max 1000 nits. I always refer my customers to your videos and I really appreciate your content. As a video enthusiast who is majoring in computer engineering I love how technical you are and it gives me a real honest and confident reason to recommend different tv models to different customers. Never change because this channel is gold. It might not be as consumer friendly because you talk about higher level concepts that must people are not willing to learn even though you do a great job of explaining everything but you are a true gem on RUclips and all of us (your subscribers) really appreciate you for not leaning to a more general audience and dumbing down your content. The technicality is why I keep coming back and you are awesome Vincent, thank you!!!
You've started later but already have more subscribers than these so called reviewers, for a good reason, your strictness ! It's always a pleasure to watch your content, you're raising the bar ! What Samsung has done with the Q9FN is actualy cheating and fooling the consumer regarding the peak brightness of this tv !
I understand you had to apologise, but i for one am 100% glad you did what you did. Some of those reviewers you noted needed a kick up the arse as they seem to be in auto pilot mode lately and overlook far too much - purposefully, in my opinion. Expertly wording or downplaying certain negatives so not to piss off companies has become a fine art in the review/publishing industry. You are the only one that has me raise an eyebrow these days with your candid critique of flaws you deem noteworthy. I'm yet to come across something you highlighted as an issue where I've had a chance to look at it myself, that hasn't turned out to be just as serious as you explained it to be. So much respect for your style and integrity, Vincent.
Your the man Vincent. Some people don’t want video accuracy or fidelity. They want their eyeballs seared by their display so they can see details that they shouldn’t and wash out high light details that they should. The number of subscribers doesn’t lie. Keep up the great work my man.
The brighter picture is what grabs you when you walk through the tv section. I used to be all about a super bright picture myself but when i got my oled I realized how over saturated a super bright image is at times. For gaming i dont think its a problem at all but watching movies it matters a bit.
Sadly you can give this video just ONE thums up. Should at least been 10 or more! Every TV manufacturer should at least try to keep their products as close as possible to common standards! Thank you Vincent!
If someone is not following the standards they need to be called out on it whatever their reason. Extra brightness smacks of sales gimmickery. People buy the brighter set all the time thinking it is better than what they have. You are the best Vincent. Keep on doing it right!
As one of the guys about to spend my hard earned on a quality video set up the one reviewer who I will choose to guide me through and help with my decision is Vincent Teoh period. For consistency, technical knowledge, thoroughness and honesty you are a stand out performer. Frankly if this offends some people then it is they who have a problem so I would like to join all my fellow subscribers in offering you a collective cuddle. It is the other reviewers who should be upset for being less than complete in their evaluations, or for "milking it", whatever is appropriate. PLEASE KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK as I am close to making a decision on a 65" OLED TV and need more reviews!
No need to apologise Vincent. We consumers appreciate your honesty and highly appreciate your honest reviews. Maybe other reviewers receive cherry picked TVs from manufacturers or receive incentives from manufacturers to give 5* feedback on their products, as long as there are honest reviewers like yourself, then that's what matters the most!! Keep doing, what you're doing and don't give the haters the satisfaction as you're on top of your game!
YOU DO THE RIGHT THING. I was very confused at first about your Q9FN video, but now the way you explain it the way you have, I see what you mean. Even though the average Joe might not see what you have in real world veiwing as they have subjective untrained eyes, the enthusiast and the pro calibration experts will due to following film standards set over 30+ years. You see the flaws many consumers never will. Im glad you are honest, I was even more confused that AVFourms gave the Q9FN a reference satus, they should have caught the errors.
Brad Hall reference for what exactly? Their review was a complete farce. I'm finally in a position to buy something better than the pioneers I've owned previously.
Not your fault for speaking the truth Vincent. Stick with your principles your probably the best out there. I must say I’m gutted you have to put things on the back burner, especially the AF8 review I’ve been looking forward to it soooooo much as an owner. Oh well you have a nice break and keep your head up. Your awesome.
jon rossi awesome. In comparison to my old LG C6 it has much better up scaling and motion. PQ is top notch. The only things that let it down is the aggressive ABL especially on sports and the OS.
Samsung on a real streak over the past few years here. Failed on saying nobody wants OLED, and LED is better. Then dropping from owning 56% of of the premium market to 14% giving Sony the lead followed by LG due to their PQ, lack of OLED. "Curved" design disaster. Now this manipulation of samsung thinking they know better than anyone else.
Vincent, in my view you have nothing to apologize for. It is precisely why I, and many others, who share a similar passion for image fidelity, watch, subscribe and support you. The passion you have for what you do is clear, and it is appreciated. You brought up an important issue and you made the right decision in doing so because your tests and measurements pointed to the issue being critical. Others publications should have come forth with similar honest critique and alerted the consumer of the behavior of the set. You actually had the bollocks to point it out. Thank you and I am sure in saying we all look forward to more content from you!
You do great work Vincent be proud and love your sense of humour. You are entitled to question other people's opinions, we all are. I really enjoy your presentation s, and so do many other Aussies I know 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 ps cheers 🍻
I work in the TV trade in the UK. This and the last video still gives me hope that marketing gimmicks won't win in the end. You just keep being true to you, that's all us consumers want. Great vid.
Much respect for you Vincent. We, as consumers, appreciate your honesty and I personally completely agree that tv manufacturers should first and foremost put picture accuracy as priority number one.
Samsung, is by far, the absolute worst brand when it comes to supporting this format. Everything from ‘fake’ QLED (which, if people remember, real QLED was basically Micro LED), HDR10+ (which is algorithm based), overpricing their panels despite these recurring shortcomings that people like Vince thankfully point out in their reviews, and now, they’re attempting to create artificial brightness, ruining the creative intent from the filmmakers and game makers’ content. This is almost as bad as forcing motion interpolation right out of the box.
Keep doing what you're doing, Vincent! If people can't hand being called out, then they shouldn't be giving their opinions on the interwebs. I just started following you, and love the honesty in your reviews. You don't just bring opinions, you bring science and knowledge together to give us viewers the best information possible. Cheers!
Vincent it takes a lot of ticker (Australian's calls "guts") to apologise publicly and I personally believe you have the best knowledge in the game. Whether the apology is warranted or not you do feel passionate about the PQ and how that PQ should be presented. Like the other commentators have said below keep up the great work and lets hope we see your comparison tests soon.
Horrible that you felt the need to apologise for telling the truth and standing up for accuracy in image rendering. Thank you for your ACCURATE reviews. You have merely echoed the opinions of other informed and objective people.
I wholeheartedly support what you did with this video and your previous one. I hope you will reconsider about your break, as I look forward to all the videos you mentioned at the end. Thank you.
I like your Reviews. I am looking so many reviews. After seeing the video I can say, if someone is telling us the truth or not. And if is someone lying, I stop following him. I like your honestly. Many will buy this TV, but if they buy it, they know what they get.
Thank you Vincent for being a professional. Please don't be afraid to tell the truth and warn us about any possible problem when you found one. It's customer decision whether it's a problem for him or not, but I prefer to be informed. I value this very much.
You done have to apologize for telling the truth.Thank god you exist since you kept me from making a huge mistake in what screen I was going to purchase.As a video enthusiast who has an older professionally calibrated LED, I would have seen the problem after it was too late. Thanks again and please don't put off those reviews you mentioned since C8 and A8F now look so much more appealing.
No need to apologize Vincent. Staying honest and truthful is always the right direction to go. Forget naysayers like Q.A. who likes to review UHDTV's without even having one to review. Keep doing what you are doing Vincent.
Vincent you’re one of the only reviewers we consumers trust. And this video is a great example. Money controls the world & can easily tell that you aren’t taking bribes from major brands to say what they want. We love you for that. You go by the FACTS. Though you may be missing out on some money in the present, I promise you that your honestly will keep your loyal followers with you for good. To where your views just from RUclips in the future will be paying you way more than this brands paying people off for misleading advertisement. We thank you & encourage you to keep up the great work.
I just hope next year TV manufacturers won't try to "compete" with Samsung by over-brightening their TVs. It's like the "loudness war" in the audio world.
The fact is when you walk into Best Buy every tv is set at peek brightness to appeal to the average consumer. They see a bright display and think it’s amazing. The videophiles who watch Vincent aren’t those customers. They want true picture quality that the director intended. That’s all Vincent is pointing out. Will Samsung sell TVs to the common cumsumer,sure because they just want a bright display. Will a videophile buy one,probably not. I love my pioneer elite plasma,not cuz it’s the brightest display but the most accurate.
Thanks and hi-lighting these display effects are very important to the consumer. People with vested interests won’t like it but the overwhelming majority of your viewers rely on this experience and honesty.
The absolute job of any display is to display content as accurately as possible for the content creator. Never stop calling this out, you did the right thing!
Don't think you need to apolagize to anyone. Your reviews are honest and is what the consumer needs to make sure they are buying the right tv and know the pros and cons before buying.
Wow. Your doing a Great Job for us all, Vincent. To apologize in this Way, your show your strength. I have buy a C8 in 77 Inch and tested him for more than a Week. Since your Video came out for the Q9, I have thoughts of doing the right Thing. Buying the right TV vor me. Your Videos auf very helpfull!!!!! So I went to a Store and buy a 75 Inch Samsung Q9FN and testet it by myself direkt beside my LG C8. Conclusion by myself was, that the next Day i turned the Samsung back. Again. Your Doing a Great Job.!!!!!!! Thanx a lot. Best Regards from Germany.
Don't apologize! You did the right thing! You are doing exactly what a real, true professional would do. Bring up these issues as soon as you see them! You are protecting thousands of people and stopping manufacturers from abusing their calibrations!
Bravo, just bravo. Disrupting mayhem and malfeasance in the display industry. Continue kicking ass and taking names. Ultimately, this is why Samsung treats Dolby Vision like it's the plague.
Well done Vincent. You are the one who doesn't cover that issue. Samsung believes that can sell anything that looks good for common poeple. It's not like that nowadays. Most people read and watch reviews before buying a tv. Big thumbs up for you. You've got a big respect after that, from all the video enthusiasts. Keep it up.
Please, please, i beg you to please continue to be honest and true to what you do as you have been doing. Do not allow some one, or in this case a large company to destroy your honesty. If they don’t like what you have to say, then they should maybe make it better or right and not try to hide the fact that they didn’t and get upset at your review. We, the consumers, have every right to know exactly what we are going to purchase, and you give us that since of clarity of what we are purchasing. They should thank you for pointing out what they have done incorrectly to make the next model better. Good job on your channel, and thank you for always keeping it real.
Your points were well supported at the time.. Some people like the extra brightness - pop. Some people want to see what is intended. That's all personal preference. But that should be a customers choice if it's within the tv's limits. Why can't we make a choice of how we want a specific tv to map..Surely in this day and age that should be an option.
Don’t worry about Steve and Rasmus they will have forgotten about it already I am sure. I certainly think accurate honest reviews are more important. Most - most I think people that watch and follow you are enthusiasts who prefer an accurate picture over one that’s tricks ones eyes and mind. I think that Samsung have done is their usual cheating, why they always feel the need to do this with various products is crazy (ie they always mock Apple in their own phone adverts how sad!)they have the ability to compete but turn to cheap tricks instead which is a real shame. Look at LG who were similar but pushed innovation and accuracy. There is a cultural problem at Samsung. Anyway Vincent keep up the great work don’t let this episode get you down please!
This is why I follow you... you do not hold back the truth! You tell it like it is, and that is what I look for! If I am going to spend $5000 on a TV, I want the best information about it so that I can get the most accurate for my money. Thank you Vincent! Keep up the great informative work that you do! You have increased my knowledge greatly!
It's funny how folks fight like babies over trivial things. When we hit 10,000 nits, all the standards will change anyways. You proved your calibration skills to me in this detailed explanation. Who am I? And especially who are folks like Quantum Apotheosis but average consumers without the real right to judge what you say when you have the proof? On the pro side you have it together. Keep up the great work. Thank you for your brutal honesty, never ever change.Very grateful, many apologies for any doubts.
Don't stop doing what you are doing just because you did one mistake by naming those sites! You did the right thing telling people the Q9FN problems, we don't want to lose the only great AV RUclipsr, you helped me and many others to understand the technical part of the video like EOTF and many things which I never fully understood in the written articles. You can stop making vids if you want to but don't stop making them because others said so
Up til now I avoided to share my personal data with Google by creating an account ... BUT, due to the unripe and inappropriate behaviours an honest reviewer had to face (who didn't deserve this...noone does), I decided to create one by now ... to be able to subscribe to this channel (my 1st subscription ever^^) ... Vincent, PLEASE continue to support us (your followers) as you did before ... we very much need hard FACTs including ALL Pros and Cons ... and NOT opinions or "eye-measurements"
very interesting and informative. If I were to stretch a little bit to draw parallels, this artificial bump in brightness is reminiscent to the "volume war" occurred in music production industry, where studios intentionally bumped up master volume level (in CD content, not player device) to the point of clipping out the subtle dynamics in the music, for the sole purpose of appealing to the average consumer who associated "loudness" with "better audio quality". Is it too much to say that it is the beginning of a very nasty trend should consumers allow it to manifest?
Dear Vincent - you are the most honest and likeable reviewer out there for TVs. I watch everything you put out, and your deep knowledge, warmth and sense of humour (ting!) always shine through, along with the sheer hard work and hours you devote to this. I do not accept your apology - because it's not warranted! Keep fighting the good fight. I agreed with everything you said in this video. Don't be deterred - be stronger - we're all here waiting for your next honest and considered review!
You are the most accurate, in-depth and honest reviewer in the game. I trust your evaluations and opinions more than any other. Please continue to bring your unmatched professionalism and humor to your videos. Peace to you my friend.
No Vincent, you did good. Samsung can’t get away with this. Content should be seen the way the makers intended it. I’m glad that you shook the AV world up, by being honest. That’s why you have a lot of followers. You’re honest, you’re humorous, you have a lot of educational videos and because of you I’m sure a lot of people buy quality instead of crap.
There’s no need to apologise. You backed up your information with facts. Expensive TVs should have as accurate picture as possible. Samsung Q9 is very expensive tv and should have more accurate picture. Why have missing highlight details for HDR.
I don't think you need to apologize to anyone. The reason people come to your channel is because you tell it how it is, and you base all your videos with as many facts as you can. Keep doing what you're doing. I sell TVs for a living and this is the only channel that help me with good info. All other websites and reviewers are either biased or don't know enough about what they are talking about.
Keep doing what your doing Vincent. It's why we all come here. I personally want my picture (once calibrated) to look as close to what the creator intended as possible.
Because of this whole mess, I subscribes. Used your videos to prepare for the purchase of the XE90, and I LOVE it. You are the most honest and we share opinions in this matter. Thank you for expressing it.
Stick to your guns Vince, and continue to do all the work we appreciate you doing. I have invested in two displays this year based upon your reviews and opinions. We have so many choices when it comes to expensive TVs nowadays, so it’s important to have people like you objectively look at a tv and it’s features and determine if it’s a good buy or not. I have no time for “best tv of 2018!”, and completely gloss over things like not having Dolby vision support, bad color/brightness accuracy, etc. Again, thank you for the hard work and entertaining videos sir!
Keep it up, you are doing the right thing here! The whole purpose for a calibration is watching what the content makers want us to see.. Not by manufacturers eyes or opinions. There is a simple solution for this, to manufacturers : "Just make an option or two in the menu list for your own interpretation of 'manufacturer's opinion - calibration' and explain that to your costumers" but still keeping the gold standard in the menu list as well.
Good video. Take a break and learn from this. You are right to call it out and we all respect you for that. My grand mother used to say: what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Important here is to do the right thing past and future from a technical and moral stand. Today is a great beginning!!! Keep well
I like many others appreciate your evaluations and supporting your opinions with graphs. You always make it clear that you are a purest and want the most accurate tracking possible. Other reviewers may have the graphs but ignore the data and just comment on their opinions of the PQ...as a consumer I have to question their conclusions wondering if they are being kind to a company who supports them. Recently, I watched a video that reviewed the Sony A8F by an established reviewer. It was so run of the mill that I could have said most of the same things from my home without having one. The Sony A1E and Sony A8F have almost identical performance...wow am I shocked. Your videos are unique in that you go into depth on your reviews and are willing to dive into the weeds. (Remember to wear protection when you go into the weeds.)
As a once massive avid Samsung TV user. I am glad you speak up about such things and never ever stop calling them out. I wont go into full detail but 1 tv i went through 9 before i got a good one and only last year i went through 12 tvs all of which were busted up either cosmetically or internally. Dont put nothing on the back burner just keep doing you. Keep up the great work
Opinion is one thing, trackable reality confirmed by other reviewers is another. You owe no one an apology, they owe us, the consumer, an apology for giving reviews with no value. I always wait for your opinion. I work in a store that sells these, your opinion is highly valued by many here! Keep up the amazing work!
You may have ruffled some feathers Vincent, but as consumers we appreciate the blunt honesty. 90% of reviews in ANY category are fluff reviews, real reviews are a dying breed. Don't change a thing!
Don't be sorry if your honesty & knowledge ticks someone off.. just means you hit the nail on the head
Yeah, see mkbhd or any big youtubers they don't throw bone to those who don't agree with them. You do what you want.
Completely agree with you!
Well done on an honest technical point
Never apologize for being the best at what you do.
Jay Sylvester 💯% 👍🏻.
Dogs bark, we don't pay attention. Follow this.
Mahimna Thombare that’s a shitty thing to say
Could not agree more with this. Best reviewer around. Gave his honest and professional opinion. Did nothing wrong
It's not unprofessional. It's professional to critique your peers. Its peer review. Thank god for you and rtings.
RXP91 Vincent & Cedric FTW
Haters gonna hate.
They're all butt hurt that you called them out for missing and/or glossing over this issue in their so called reviews. They all jumped on the seemingly increasing Q9FN best TV of 2018 bandwagon, dishing out 5star, 10/10, reference status awards etc. and they now look foolish for it.
You're a gentleman and a scholar sir. Keep up the fantastic work.
I’ve seen throughout the forums people saying you should apologize to said reviewers and you have, fair enough. But I see it as completely unnecessary. You called out what we as consumers would have regarded as trusted review sites. There was nothing personal or in any way derogatory about your remarks. Seeing said reviewers then lambaste you and call your motives and integrity into question, regarding your calibration business, seems all the more personal to me. If they were worth their salt they’d have been more concerned with the issues you had raised and put as much effort into rectifying their reviews and addressing said issues. The fact remains that you have consistently been the best television reviewer out there for some time now and have provided us consumers with with a level of knowledge and critique scarcely seen elsewhere. I only hope that continues and those who would so quickly move to attack you take a leaf from your book.
T K well bloody said! I'm yet to read the comments by other reviewers so don't know to whom you are referring but I'm not surprised that Vincent's honesty and integrity ruffled feathers in some quarters. Keep up the great work Vincent!
Paid shills cry the hardest on the internet when their sponsor income is being threatened
The main website that complained was AVForums. They awarded Q9FN a REFERENCE badge. To a TV that purposedly avoids sticking to reference curves for brightness. Vincent should not be the one sorry about this.
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Who was it that got all hurt, was it quantum apotheosis , he takes offense to anything.
I, as a true movie enthusiast, think you have the right mentality for a professional calibrator, Vincent. Getting a picture to look 'awesome' is not professional, that's not what I'm paying for as a consumer of a calibrated picture. I'm paying to get a picture that resembles the monitor that Tarantino, Nolan, Thomas Anderson etc watched while creating their masterpieces. I want to see exactly what they want me to see. I don't want any colors to 'pop' unless that's what was intended. I don't want Samsung or any other company to alter any of these pieces of art that I'm watching on my television just because they'll sell more TVs in the store to the average non-enthusiast, I want the content as close to the original form as possible.
DuudeWhatDoesMineSay What about eye acuity and daytime? The only way you are going to get that kind of precision is if you have the same eye issues as the mastering guy at the same time of the day they sealed the project.
In my opinion, Samsung has never been aimed at the caring customer. They've always been way over saturated, and now we have the overbrightening issue. Don't apologize. Keep perusing perfection with your excellent reviews.
Got a bit teary eyed myself during the last few minutes...
Found your channel a few months ago and learnt alot from you.
Really love your enthusiasm and professionalism in all your reviews and videos.
Have a well-needed break Vincent, just don't doubt yourself, your well-reasoned, professional voice is needed in this community.
Vincent - Rock on! I'm an AV buyer for a small regional dealer and find your reviews invaluable when I evaluate competing products. Your enthusiasm, knowledge and candor are a breath of fresh air. Thank YOU!
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Just continue your path, we want truthful reviews not kind ones.
No need to apologise in my opinion. You are being honest and constructively critical. This is beneficial to us Consumers. Keep doing what you are doing.
You should not have to apologise or excuse what amounts to doing your job properly. Keep up the great work!
Vincent I really really appreciate how informative and knowledgeable you are about tv's and reviews. As a Best Buy employee that works in the Magnolia home theater department I try to teach consumers about colour accuracy and how tv's cannot reach the mastered nit content so they have to find a way to scale it down for a tv outputting at max 1000 nits. I always refer my customers to your videos and I really appreciate your content. As a video enthusiast who is majoring in computer engineering I love how technical you are and it gives me a real honest and confident reason to recommend different tv models to different customers. Never change because this channel is gold. It might not be as consumer friendly because you talk about higher level concepts that must people are not willing to learn even though you do a great job of explaining everything but you are a true gem on RUclips and all of us (your subscribers) really appreciate you for not leaning to a more general audience and dumbing down your content. The technicality is why I keep coming back and you are awesome Vincent, thank you!!!
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Stick to your guns Vincent.
No sorry needed, stay honest, others are against you to make money not because they can challenge your expertise, they really fool there viewers.
You've started later but already have more subscribers than these so called reviewers, for a good reason, your strictness ! It's always a pleasure to watch your content, you're raising the bar !
What Samsung has done with the Q9FN is actualy cheating and fooling the consumer regarding the peak brightness of this tv !
Nothing to apologise for. Your reviews and information speak for themselves. Other "professionals" need to concentrate more on their "profession".
I understand you had to apologise, but i for one am 100% glad you did what you did. Some of those reviewers you noted needed a kick up the arse as they seem to be in auto pilot mode lately and overlook far too much - purposefully, in my opinion.
Expertly wording or downplaying certain negatives so not to piss off companies has become a fine art in the review/publishing industry. You are the only one that has me raise an eyebrow these days with your candid critique of flaws you deem noteworthy. I'm yet to come across something you highlighted as an issue where I've had a chance to look at it myself, that hasn't turned out to be just as serious as you explained it to be.
So much respect for your style and integrity, Vincent.
Dude...it’s Samsung. They’ve never cared about color accuracy. Takes a real man to humble himself like this. 🤙🏾👏🏾👍🏾
Your the man Vincent. Some people don’t want video accuracy or fidelity. They want their eyeballs seared by their display so they can see details that they shouldn’t and wash out high light details that they should.
The number of subscribers doesn’t lie. Keep up the great work my man.
The brighter picture is what grabs you when you walk through the tv section. I used to be all about a super bright picture myself but when i got my oled I realized how over saturated a super bright image is at times. For gaming i dont think its a problem at all but watching movies it matters a bit.
Sadly you can give this video just ONE thums up. Should at least been 10 or more! Every TV manufacturer should at least try to keep their products as close as possible to common standards! Thank you Vincent!
If someone is not following the standards they need to be called out on it whatever their reason. Extra brightness smacks of sales gimmickery. People buy the brighter set all the time thinking it is better than what they have. You are the best Vincent. Keep on doing it right!
shame on Samsung . thanks vincent for you enlightenment
I'm starting to think this isn't an AF8 review.
As one of the guys about to spend my hard earned on a quality video set up the one reviewer who I will choose to guide me through and help with my decision is Vincent Teoh period. For consistency, technical knowledge, thoroughness and honesty you are a stand out performer. Frankly if this offends some people then it is they who have a problem so I would like to join all my fellow subscribers in offering you a collective cuddle. It is the other reviewers who should be upset for being less than complete in their evaluations, or for "milking it", whatever is appropriate. PLEASE KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK as I am close to making a decision on a 65" OLED TV and need more reviews!
No need to apologise Vincent. We consumers appreciate your honesty and highly appreciate your honest reviews. Maybe other reviewers receive cherry picked TVs from manufacturers or receive incentives from manufacturers to give 5* feedback on their products, as long as there are honest reviewers like yourself, then that's what matters the most!! Keep doing, what you're doing and don't give the haters the satisfaction as you're on top of your game!
YOU DO THE RIGHT THING. I was very confused at first about your Q9FN video, but now the way you explain it the way you have, I see what you mean. Even though the average Joe might not see what you have in real world veiwing as they have subjective untrained eyes, the enthusiast and the pro calibration experts will due to following film standards set over 30+ years. You see the flaws many consumers never will. Im glad you are honest, I was even more confused that AVFourms gave the Q9FN a reference satus, they should have caught the errors.
Brad Hall reference for what exactly? Their review was a complete farce. I'm finally in a position to buy something better than the pioneers I've owned previously.
Brad Hall I'm glad I'm still in touch with Steve kemp that's all I can say.
I enjoy your reviews and videos because you're honest, no need to apologize for telling your audience the truth.
Not your fault for speaking the truth Vincent. Stick with your principles your probably the best out there. I must say I’m gutted you have to put things on the back burner, especially the AF8 review I’ve been looking forward to it soooooo much as an owner. Oh well you have a nice break and keep your head up. Your awesome.
jason wadsworth how’s the AF8?
jon rossi awesome. In comparison to my old LG C6 it has much better up scaling and motion. PQ is top notch. The only things that let it down is the aggressive ABL especially on sports and the OS.
Samsung on a real streak over the past few years here. Failed on saying nobody wants OLED, and LED is better. Then dropping from owning 56% of of the premium market to 14% giving Sony the lead followed by LG due to their PQ, lack of OLED. "Curved" design disaster. Now this manipulation of samsung thinking they know better than anyone else.
Vincent, in my view you have nothing to apologize for. It is precisely why I, and many others, who share a similar passion for image fidelity, watch, subscribe and support you. The passion you have for what you do is clear, and it is appreciated. You brought up an important issue and you made the right decision in doing so because your tests and measurements pointed to the issue being critical. Others publications should have come forth with similar honest critique and alerted the consumer of the behavior of the set. You actually had the bollocks to point it out. Thank you and I am sure in saying we all look forward to more content from you!
You do great work Vincent be proud and love your sense of humour. You are entitled to question other people's opinions, we all are.
I really enjoy your presentation s, and so do many other Aussies I know 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
ps cheers 🍻
No need to apologize or change your approach. Your objectivity and enthusiasm is what makes your reviews.
I work in the TV trade in the UK. This and the last video still gives me hope that marketing gimmicks won't win in the end. You just keep being true to you, that's all us consumers want. Great vid.
Much respect for you Vincent. We, as consumers, appreciate your honesty and I personally completely agree that tv manufacturers should first and foremost put picture accuracy as priority number one.
Quantum Apotheosis needs to wake up and see what pro stuff is all about.
Samsung, is by far, the absolute worst brand when it comes to supporting this format. Everything from ‘fake’ QLED (which, if people remember, real QLED was basically Micro LED), HDR10+ (which is algorithm based), overpricing their panels despite these recurring shortcomings that people like Vince thankfully point out in their reviews, and now, they’re attempting to create artificial brightness, ruining the creative intent from the filmmakers and game makers’ content.
This is almost as bad as forcing motion interpolation right out of the box.
Keep doing what you're doing, Vincent! If people can't hand being called out, then they shouldn't be giving their opinions on the interwebs. I just started following you, and love the honesty in your reviews. You don't just bring opinions, you bring science and knowledge together to give us viewers the best information possible. Cheers!
Thank you! I’m so sick and tired of dishonest advertorial crap. You are awesome and don’t stop keeping it real!
Vincent it takes a lot of ticker (Australian's calls "guts") to apologise publicly and I personally believe you have the best knowledge in the game. Whether the apology is warranted or not you do feel passionate about the PQ and how that PQ should be presented. Like the other commentators have said below keep up the great work and lets hope we see your comparison tests soon.
Horrible that you felt the need to apologise for telling the truth and standing up for accuracy in image rendering. Thank you for your ACCURATE reviews. You have merely echoed the opinions of other informed and objective people.
Vincent, honesty and integrity are in very short supply in this world. We need people like you. Please keep up the good work!
I wholeheartedly support what you did with this video and your previous one. I hope you will reconsider about your break, as I look forward to all the videos you mentioned at the end. Thank you.
You became the best because simply you are, and you do not need to apologize for doing your job.
I'm glad you mentioned this issue. Like you said, if you didn't, no one did. Keep on doing your thing.
I like your Reviews. I am looking so many reviews. After seeing the video I can say, if someone is telling us the truth or not. And if is someone lying, I stop following him. I like your honestly. Many will buy this TV, but if they buy it, they know what they get.
Thank you Vincent for being a professional. Please don't be afraid to tell the truth and warn us about any possible problem when you found one. It's customer decision whether it's a problem for him or not, but I prefer to be informed. I value this very much.
You done have to apologize for telling the truth.Thank god you exist since you kept me from making a huge mistake in what screen I was going to purchase.As a video enthusiast who has an older professionally calibrated LED, I would have seen the problem after it was too late. Thanks again and please don't put off those reviews you mentioned since C8 and A8F now look so much more appealing.
No need to apologize Vincent. Staying honest and truthful is always the right direction to go. Forget naysayers like Q.A. who likes to review UHDTV's without even having one to review. Keep doing what you are doing Vincent.
"Retail review sample" are the optimum words you use throughout your review, words that other professional reviewers seem to have trouble with.
Vincent you’re one of the only reviewers we consumers trust. And this video is a great example. Money controls the world & can easily tell that you aren’t taking bribes from major brands to say what they want. We love you for that. You go by the FACTS. Though you may be missing out on some money in the present, I promise you that your honestly will keep your loyal followers with you for good. To where your views just from RUclips in the future will be paying you way more than this brands paying people off for misleading advertisement. We thank you & encourage you to keep up the great work.
I just hope next year TV manufacturers won't try to "compete" with Samsung by over-brightening their TVs. It's like the "loudness war" in the audio world.
The fact is when you walk into Best Buy every tv is set at peek brightness to appeal to the average consumer. They see a bright display and think it’s amazing. The videophiles who watch Vincent aren’t those customers. They want true picture quality that the director intended. That’s all Vincent is pointing out. Will Samsung sell TVs to the common cumsumer,sure because they just want a bright display. Will a videophile buy one,probably not. I love my pioneer elite plasma,not cuz it’s the brightest display but the most accurate.
OMG....I always wanted a Pioneer elite. Just couldn't afford one at the time...Wish Pioneer were still making TVs...They were the pinnacle.
Thanks and hi-lighting these display effects are very important to the consumer. People with vested interests won’t like it but the overwhelming majority of your viewers rely on this experience and honesty.
Thanks for highlighting this issue, we want picture accuracy not cheap tricks. Keep doing what you do, brilliant stuff!
The absolute job of any display is to display content as accurately as possible for the content creator.
Never stop calling this out, you did the right thing!
Don't apologise for being good at your job.
Don't think you need to apolagize to anyone. Your reviews are honest and is what the consumer needs to make sure they are buying the right tv and know the pros and cons before buying.
Vincent we love your honesty and passion while doing your work, big corporations like Samsung can learn from you, thanks buddy.
Love your work Vincent. Don''t stress out, you're calling it how you see it and your frank and honest opinions are appreciated.
Wow. Your doing a Great Job for us all, Vincent.
To apologize in this Way, your show your strength.
I have buy a C8 in 77 Inch and tested him for more than a Week.
Since your Video came out for the Q9, I have thoughts of doing the right Thing.
Buying the right TV vor me. Your Videos auf very helpfull!!!!!
So I went to a Store and buy a 75 Inch Samsung Q9FN and testet it by myself direkt beside my LG C8. Conclusion by myself was, that the next Day i turned the Samsung back.
Again. Your Doing a Great Job.!!!!!!! Thanx a lot.
Best Regards from Germany.
Don't apologize! You did the right thing! You are doing exactly what a real, true professional would do. Bring up these issues as soon as you see them! You are protecting thousands of people and stopping manufacturers from abusing their calibrations!
Bravo, just bravo. Disrupting mayhem and malfeasance in the display industry. Continue kicking ass and taking names.
Ultimately, this is why Samsung treats Dolby Vision like it's the plague.
I respect your honesty mate, if a TV has issues you're right to point the flaws out, especially on a premium set like the Samsung Q9FN.
Well done Vincent. You are the one who doesn't cover that issue. Samsung believes that can sell anything that looks good for common poeple. It's not like that nowadays. Most people read and watch reviews before buying a tv. Big thumbs up for you. You've got a big respect after that, from all the video enthusiasts. Keep it up.
Please, please, i beg you to please continue to be honest and true to what you do as you have been doing. Do not allow some one, or in this case a large company to destroy your honesty. If they don’t like what you have to say, then they should maybe make it better or right and not try to hide the fact that they didn’t and get upset at your review. We, the consumers, have every right to know exactly what we are going to purchase, and you give us that since of clarity of what we are purchasing. They should thank you for pointing out what they have done incorrectly to make the next model better. Good job on your channel, and thank you for always keeping it real.
You are the man Vince
Your points were well supported at the time.. Some people like the extra brightness - pop. Some people want to see what is intended. That's all personal preference. But that should be a customers choice if it's within the tv's limits. Why can't we make a choice of how we want a specific tv to map..Surely in this day and age that should be an option.
Don’t worry about Steve and Rasmus they will have forgotten about it already I am sure.
I certainly think accurate honest reviews are more important. Most - most I think people that watch and follow you are enthusiasts who prefer an accurate picture over one that’s tricks ones eyes and mind.
I think that Samsung have done is their usual cheating, why they always feel the need to do this with various products is crazy (ie they always mock Apple in their own phone adverts how sad!)they have the ability to compete but turn to cheap tricks instead which is a real shame. Look at LG who were similar but pushed innovation and accuracy. There is a cultural problem at Samsung.
Anyway Vincent keep up the great work don’t let this episode get you down please!
Don’t apologize for that! This is probably why there were little to no 2017 QLED reviews!!! THANKS!
This is why I follow you... you do not hold back the truth! You tell it like it is, and that is what I look for! If I am going to spend $5000 on a TV, I want the best information about it so that I can get the most accurate for my money. Thank you Vincent! Keep up the great informative work that you do! You have increased my knowledge greatly!
You are awesome!
Good for him to shaming some people who just write great reviews but as he puts it “ gloss the facts “
It's funny how folks fight like babies over trivial things. When we hit 10,000 nits, all the standards will change anyways. You proved your calibration skills to me in this detailed explanation. Who am I? And especially who are folks like Quantum Apotheosis but average consumers without the real right to judge what you say when you have the proof? On the pro side you have it together. Keep up the great work. Thank you for your brutal honesty, never ever change.Very grateful, many apologies for any doubts.
Vincent, No need to apologize for (doing the right thing). I admire your courage and strength. Much respect, Joe Black
Vincent, Your a class act and those of us who share your passion will always have your back.
Don't stop doing what you are doing just because you did one mistake by naming those sites! You did the right thing telling people the Q9FN problems, we don't want to lose the only great AV RUclipsr, you helped me and many others to understand the technical part of the video like EOTF and many things which I never fully understood in the written articles. You can stop making vids if you want to but don't stop making them because others said so
Up til now I avoided to share my personal data with Google by creating an account ... BUT, due to the unripe and inappropriate behaviours an honest reviewer had to face (who didn't deserve this...noone does), I decided to create one by now ... to be able to subscribe to this channel (my 1st subscription ever^^) ... Vincent, PLEASE continue to support us (your followers) as you did before ... we very much need hard FACTs including ALL Pros and Cons ... and NOT opinions or "eye-measurements"
very interesting and informative. If I were to stretch a little bit to draw parallels, this artificial bump in brightness is reminiscent to the "volume war" occurred in music production industry, where studios intentionally bumped up master volume level (in CD content, not player device) to the point of clipping out the subtle dynamics in the music, for the sole purpose of appealing to the average consumer who associated "loudness" with "better audio quality". Is it too much to say that it is the beginning of a very nasty trend should consumers allow it to manifest?
Dear Vincent - you are the most honest and likeable reviewer out there for TVs. I watch everything you put out, and your deep knowledge, warmth and sense of humour (ting!) always shine through, along with the sheer hard work and hours you devote to this. I do not accept your apology - because it's not warranted! Keep fighting the good fight. I agreed with everything you said in this video. Don't be deterred - be stronger - we're all here waiting for your next honest and considered review!
No need to say sorry. You were maybe the only one that did honest review about samsung q9. Please dont change and continue your awesome work.
You are the most accurate, in-depth and honest reviewer in the game. I trust your evaluations and opinions more than any other. Please continue to bring your unmatched professionalism and humor to your videos. Peace to you my friend.
No Vincent, you did good. Samsung can’t get away with this. Content should be seen the way the makers intended it. I’m glad that you shook the AV world up, by being honest. That’s why you have a lot of followers. You’re honest, you’re humorous, you have a lot of educational videos and because of you I’m sure a lot of people buy quality instead of crap.
There’s no need to apologise. You backed up your information with facts. Expensive TVs should have as accurate picture as possible. Samsung Q9 is very expensive tv and should have more accurate picture. Why have missing highlight details for HDR.
I don't think you need to apologize to anyone. The reason people come to your channel is because you tell it how it is, and you base all your videos with as many facts as you can. Keep doing what you're doing. I sell TVs for a living and this is the only channel that help me with good info. All other websites and reviewers are either biased or don't know enough about what they are talking about.
Keep doing what your doing Vincent. It's why we all come here. I personally want my picture (once calibrated) to look as close to what the creator intended as possible.
Dont stop your great work !
Someone at Samsung was searching for the meaning of life, the universe, and everything while programming the EOTF curve
NIAtoolkit Meaning of profit rather !
tshaolin971 oh Yeah! 🤣🤣🤣
Because of this whole mess, I subscribes. Used your videos to prepare for the purchase of the XE90, and I LOVE it. You are the most honest and we share opinions in this matter. Thank you for expressing it.
Stick to your guns Vince, and continue to do all the work we appreciate you doing. I have invested in two displays this year based upon your reviews and opinions. We have so many choices when it comes to expensive TVs nowadays, so it’s important to have people like you objectively look at a tv and it’s features and determine if it’s a good buy or not. I have no time for “best tv of 2018!”, and completely gloss over things like not having Dolby vision support, bad color/brightness accuracy, etc. Again, thank you for the hard work and entertaining videos sir!
Keep it up, you are doing the right thing here!
The whole purpose for a calibration is watching what the content makers want us to see.. Not by manufacturers eyes or opinions.
There is a simple solution for this, to manufacturers :
"Just make an option or two in the menu list for your own interpretation of 'manufacturer's opinion - calibration' and explain that to your costumers" but still keeping the gold standard in the menu list as well.
Good video. Take a break and learn from this. You are right to call it out and we all respect you for that. My grand mother used to say: what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Important here is to do the right thing past and future from a technical and moral stand. Today is a great beginning!!! Keep well
I like many others appreciate your evaluations and supporting your opinions with graphs. You always make it clear that you are a purest and want the most accurate tracking possible. Other reviewers may have the graphs but ignore the data and just comment on their opinions of the PQ...as a consumer I have to question their conclusions wondering if they are being kind to a company who supports them. Recently, I watched a video that reviewed the Sony A8F by an established reviewer. It was so run of the mill that I could have said most of the same things from my home without having one. The Sony A1E and Sony A8F have almost identical performance...wow am I shocked. Your videos are unique in that you go into depth on your reviews and are willing to dive into the weeds. (Remember to wear protection when you go into the weeds.)
As a once massive avid Samsung TV user. I am glad you speak up about such things and never ever stop calling them out. I wont go into full detail but 1 tv i went through 9 before i got a good one and only last year i went through 12 tvs all of which were busted up either cosmetically or internally. Dont put nothing on the back burner just keep doing you. Keep up the great work
Opinion is one thing, trackable reality confirmed by other reviewers is another. You owe no one an apology, they owe us, the consumer, an apology for giving reviews with no value. I always wait for your opinion. I work in a store that sells these, your opinion is highly valued by many here! Keep up the amazing work!
LOL, keep up the good work Vincent, you are truly right, Samnsung is pushing artifitial brightness for pop and not for detail.
Professional and honest reviews. We need you Vincent. Please do come back with your enthusiasm after taking a break.
Look at those curves, so beautiful 😂 Love your humor Vincent, never change please!