Watch Out Jeep and Ford: The New Toyota 4Runner Is GUNNING for the Off-Road Crown!
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2024
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GM made a mistake with the Blazer nameplate. Should have remade it into a modern version of the original not a lame compact SUV.
That was indeed a huge mistake. Also, the Colorado based Trail Blazer has such a bad design it barely sales...
I agree with that. They shoulda come out with a true off-roader called the Blazer that could compete with the Wrangler and the Bronco. I like somebody's idea here that the current "Blazer" shoulda been called the "Nomad".
Same Mistake Ford made with the Taurus nameplate!. Fusion should have been the new Taurus and Last Taurus should have been nameed and remained the 500.
True
They could still make a GMC Jimmy from the parts bin of the Colorado/Canyon. But current leadership has chosen to ditch what consumer want and has gone all in on EVs for their future.
Toyota needs to bring Fj back.
Mini Cruiser perhaps?
Its great car but not amazing on mpg
@@audiquagamingnobody buys off-readers based on mpg
It'll be the EV Cruiser concept , but obviously it won't be a fully electric, it's going to be hybrid.
@@bobsacamano6402 agreed but nice to have😅
Great video. I currently drive an 18 year old GX and a 27 year old LX as daily drivers and am building another 80 Series Landcruiser as a dedicated off-roader.
Thanks for sharing!
20 year old 4runner with the same engine
24yr old LX here….310k…..long live the 4.7
9:10 Truly, who thinks a plug in hybrid is the best option in a 4 X 4? It's not even a great option for everyday use. Let the bloody engine and drive train recharge the hybrid battery. What have the other companies got against this simple concept that Toyota understands?
This is the eventual route all stellantis vehicles will go. Look to the new ram-charger truck.
Híbrid car haver big torque in low rpm, it is good for off road
I’d like to see a hardcore 4Runner with 35s from Toyota. Something that can take on a Rubicon.
Even a decent set of 33s with more travel would be really good.
Yet still can’t take on a Bronco.
@@user-zg5ch8nw8junless you ask them both to not break down or drive 150k miles. Then the 4runner wins hands down
@@NM-235 I don't think either of those vehicles has any outstanding break down issues as far as customer experiences goes, the worst recalls you get are safety issues. Which funny enough all vehicles get anyway, they get more because they make more and not all of them are the best first time around, but they improve. I see plenty running with more than 100k miles too so that isn't anything special.
@@leofhr2966 I’ve owed 1 tj, and 3 jks. All three jk were bought new (1 wrecked and replaced, one to move into the 3.6 and 5speed) they were all maintenance pigs by 50k. One jk had a 1600$ power distro box die 300 miles after warranty. It wounded turn off the engine fan even when the ignition was off and had a bent axle (was a Sahara) from mild trails on stock sized tires. My 2 4runner s went 100k on oil changes alone
A new FJ with a removable top would kill it. Maybe any FJ with some more of the retro styling of the FJ-40
We can only hope. Especially with Jeep teasing that "short cut"
Here’s an idea a modernized design of the first gen 4Runner
@@Shadow_Wolf_190 that first gen 4Runner with a removable top is pretty cool. I’m a Bronco guy but if Toyota makes something like that in the future they’d have my attention.
10:35 You can't buy a new LandCruiser for less than $80,000 right now in Michigan. Dealers, man.
😮
And it has a 4 cylinder
Nobody with common sense would buy anything other than Toyota/Lexus as the competitions reliability is just shocking
Agree
Do your research. Other than the 4 runner Toyota reliability isn’t good. Check out the new Tacoma it’s having one problem after another. It has cheap trash underpinnings and bad engineering. You are living in the past
@billricheter5678 what are you smoking? Who's made more reliable vehicles than toyota/lexus?
@@alchemistx1 no need to be rude. Some Toyota models are reliable some are subpar. Don’t live in the past and assume because it says Toyota and is made in Mexico it’s well put together. Most Lexus models are solid though
the tech and interior is very outdated compared to other luxury cars. Just because you have one, don't convince yourself its the best. Critique your own cars so they can become better. Hyundai many times matches toyotas warranty nowadays. So reliability wise its about the same because "stranded on the road" is probably only less than 1%. While most can take it into the shop for free
Toyota was always the best in 4x4... maybe in the US the perspective is different... i dont see any other vehicle that may compete other than the Wrangler. Toyota has the Land Cruiser, the Prado, the Tacoma/Hilux, the Fortuner, th LC70 the 4Runner, the Lexus GX etc... Since Nissan started to disappear post Ghosn era, there is no competition to Toyota for the RoW
Thing is in the USA Toyota had a dated range like the current 4 runner for 16 years or so. then the last Land cruiser was a Big flagship full size luxury SUV that cost same has a LX.then Toyota removed the fj cruiser which was a bad move.but the good news is Toyota is back on top. Riyad don't care about any comments from jeep or bronco guys who will attack your comment.
@@Mylifeislegendary836. I had forgotten about the FJ!!! It was still being sold until the end of 2023! Btw I have a Wrangler and my brother has an FJ :)
Agree but would still like to see a solid front axle vehicle from them here. Think 70 Series!
@@thomassanio8745 1.people who buy these ultra rugged SUVs never take them off road and 70 series is overrated overpriced outdated unsafe suv.its something fun to talk about but from my personal experience let me tell you only good thing about is it's reliability.overall not required
@RiyadAboujaoudeh• FJ and 4 runner would have been a excellent team of SUVs but sadly they killed it the wrong time
Love Tommy's honesty about 'pissing in the wind'. Nothing wrong with it...everyone has been too excited for too long and Toyota far too patient with this iconic truck.
No mention of the fj40 in Toyota history? The 40 is what started it all for Toyota off roading in the US. It’s been part of the culture since the 50s. Cheers
Agree
Exactly!
Most people do not off road, they buy because they want to look like they do!
for runnin over the mall curbs cause you have no idea where your rear tire really is
Funny, but true🙏🏽❤️
The latest Lexus GX 550 configurator offers as dealer installed additional skid plates to what comes from the factory!
Guys, there is really no news in this video whatsoever. Can we please agree to do the next video about the new 4Runner and LandCruiser once there is something to say, or when these cars have finally come out? Thanks
Absolutely there is news here: Roman doesn’t seem to mind wearing a hat!
@@jamesbeaman6337he's gravely ill.
I just wasted 14 minutes of my life
Roman is not well, is he being treated, I saw where he is puny? He looks frail & seems confused. Prayers
Roman trimming up for the nice weather. Keep it up brother
I sure hope Toyota keeps the “roll down” tailgate window on the new 4Runner!
Yup, greatest invention for a dog.
It’s staying, confirmed today by Toyota
About time for some competition. Jeep and their prices have been insane. I wanted to love a Gladiator / Wranger but then learned about what Stellantis did the brand (and then asked for how much they ask for!)
Because the Toyota is going to be MSRP at the dealer 😂, they want a lot for a new Tacoma. I know Toyota "reliability" but you'll still be paying out the ass
You can expect a price increase from Toyota as well on top of markups.
You can get a diesel gladiator right now for low to mid 40s. Best 4x4 vehicle ive ever owned and i dont have even have budget constraints
@@mattbrew11 gladiator is underpowered garbage.
@@joshlamar1990 a diesel gladiator is in absolutely no way underpowered
Is Roman ill? He doesn't look well, he's appeared very frail as of late. I pray for his full recovery!
I think stellantis should add landrover and jaguar……since Jeep wants to go upmarket landrover can be their luxury division
i gotta agree, toyota is slaying the off road suv market and they kinda have dominated it for a long while w the land cruiser/gx in terms of overlanding. the fact that xoverland has toyota as their sponsor says alot, and they did get the 1st trailhunter tacoma in the US. toyota even tried to trademark the name overlander for the gx but had to settle for overtrail. if you want to see this rig all decked out to what it could be check out the jaos edition. its pretty sweet. the 4runner has done well but wrangler and bronco have surpassed it. starting w the top dog two rows we have the discovery, ineos, and gx550. the gx will sell well vs ineos bc it is the most practical daily driver. not many people will take their discoveries off road bc they are luxury crossovers now kind of like the jeep gc. toyota has every price range covered w rav4trd in the 30s, 4runner in 40s, land c in the 50s, sequoia in the 60s, and gx550 in the 70s+. they could even compete directly w a two door bronco or wrangler and bring back the fj. ineos is a true overlander bc it has solid axles and a front locker but i think its more at home in say africa, the outback or the desert but anywhere really bc it can go anywhere. id still rather have a gx overtrail even though it does not have a front locker or build an expedition sxt two row custom timberline in that size for american byways. i think the landcruiser will do well vs jeep gc bc its a smaller 2row body on frame hybrid. the grand c is not a good base for offroad though it has quadra d2 but its not all that modifiable like a landcruiser most likely will be. the biggest tires you can put on it are 265/65/18 which are like 31.5" tall. im sure the land c will fit 265/70/18s wo a lift.
the new 4 runner will also do very good in sales vs the wrangler and bronco bc of price, practicality for offroad families, and mod capability for those whose wanting to take it a step further. with the exception of bronco and wrangler it seems like the american brands are falling behind in terms of offroad suv prowess, while the focus has been on trucks. more than good there. im sure the timberline will come back eventually in the refreshed explorer but its still a crossover. what jeep really needs is a 4runner fighter. a new budget, body on frame, ifs, steel spring, v6 cherokee? an suv geared for offroaders to build on yet still family friendly in stock form. something in the 40k price range of course w a bunch of other offroad trim or pkg goodies like lockers, 4low, and skids.
This could be an absolutely huge year for Toyota in the off road space. They went from having multiple models being pretty dated for 2024 to new tacoma, new landrover, and the imminent announcement of the 4runner redesign. If they get the price right on the 4runner, they are going to make a killing in this space since Ford and especially Jeep have gone price crazy. I could easily see the people being priced out of jeep possibly flocking to towards toyota.
Agree
*Land Cruiser
lol these new toyota wont be cheap.
@@theeconomist100 I’ll play the devils advocate: no new cars are cheap. 😔
Roman, your hat is excellent! How do I get one?
I remember a few years ago you guys reviewed a factory GX that had the air dam cut, steel bumper installed, rock rails, etc. Would be interesting to go back and look to see if you caught that this was a trial balloon by Lexus for the new trail-ready GX
Toyota is doing awesome things I just wish they still offered a V8
That why I bought a 2021 Tundra with low miles, cause of the V8.
@@alfonsoalvarez8251 good choice too! I think the older tundras are going to hold they’re values even more now that the V8 is gone
You guy's are lucky. As an example, In the Netherlands the ford bronco cost 150k due to emision taxes.
Always great work fellas! Keep it up. Thanks for all you do. Appreciate you.
"Affordable" is a term used loosely by today's standards..everything is expensive now.
Exactly, now cars that are a few thousand dollars are considered “cheap” a few years ago it was less than 1 thousand
"Affordable" is pushing for 6-7yrs auto loan
My local Toyota/Lexus dealerships have two Landcruiser Fe and there 5 grand more than there new GX's.
Autoblog posted Nissan is considering the revival of Xterra. Given the success of the Frontier, how likely you think we will see a Xterra in the near future? Nissan seems to be focus on family/mall finder vehicles while Toyota is doing well with sporty SUVs that offers an off road package to capture that growing segment. Do you think Nissan has given up on the off road market?
If GM used their recipe from 20 years ago and made a new Trailblazer on the Colorado platform (and offer a ZR2), I would be sold. Black or dark green, please
Chevy destroyed the blazer name by making a cross over and then slapping the blazer name onto it it's a total slap in the face Chevy has no balls to do it
@@texandy89 agreed
Yep, the new Blazer is a soccer mom vehicle. They squandered the name.
They are just thinking about profits, they don't care about quality.
@@benchmark3332 The quality is on par with the competition. They're all about the same now.
They all care about profits more than quality. They would all go out of business if they built a "forever car"
6:41 Tommy's impulsive honesty is the best thing about TFL
An option package for these trucks with Mike ”Ironman" Stewart livery would really send a message about how serious they are.
Hard to bash the price of the Jeep Wrangler when you consider Jeep throws in free tattoos and a pitbull with every sale.
Don’t forget the vape pens and stickers of various versions of bastardized us flags!
yeah the Land Crusier may have dropped in price but dealerships in Southern California have already taken advantage of that . LCs in the South Bay are marked up and going for 90k +
Toyota has always been one of the most chosen vehicles for overlanding & general off roading. Even when I didn't pay attention to that stuff I'd always see toyota's period and wondered why. Well now I've found out why because the hold up better when you go away from society or civilization.
All the guys who run dogs for deer in the forests down here drive old Tacomas. Like every single one. They treat them like shit and they keep on going.
What percentage of off road vehicles actually go off road? I guess it’s better to have it and not use it than to need it and not have it.
Great conversation
Keeping my 2023 4runner,until I retire in about 2032.Then maybe a NEW GX550 or 4runner,if I can afford one! If not then probably a used 2027 or 28,as long as their still built in Tahara!
Will the Dealer Adjustment be $10,000 on the 6th Gen 4Runner? Is it really coming out next year? They have been saying that for the last 4 years.
That jeep going around that curve looked good.
A tundra plug in hybrid is a game changer. My last Tundra most of my work was 80 percent city , but still need to pull big loads , drive 700 km . A 40 mile plug in would of cut gas down a huge amount ( currently own 2 hybrid since 2013 )
I want to know the difference in 5th Gen and 6 Gen with Ground Clearance Breakover MPG Tire size is it worth upgrading ? Take these two to Moab ?
I expect the 4Runner to feed directly into the Cruiser in price
The Taco really starts in the mid-30's so the 4Runner can start just above it, near $40k,
and run up to the Cruiser, in the high $50s
Getting arid of the Cherokee was a mistake. Especially the Trailhawk model. I still will take a wrangler. But I love everything Toyota has put out.
Do you guys think you can figure out when Toyota will do the official announcement of the 6th Gen 4runner? Based on the teaser schedule from the Landcruiser last year.
I'd base it off the teaser schedule of the Tacoma last yer.
Here’s some news. According to the Toyota website Tacoma Build pages the new 6spd manual has been down rated to the base i4 engine. It’s down 30% on hp and torque from what they had said it would be. Maybe the front differential can’t handle the torque.
Nice review.
I always thought the 4Runner competed against the Bronco and the Jeep, all three are competent off road vehicles that are body on frame and designed with off roading in mind. Plus, the aftermarket support is enormous.
I wouldn’t even consider the Explorer as an off road vehicle. It’s a fantastic family hauler, the AWD is fine for light off road work, but it doesn’t have the ground clearance the Jeep, 4 Runner, or Bronco offer. Plus, it’s a unibody, not a body on frame. I my mind The Explorer doesn’t even compete in the off roading category.
People already forgetting the new Taco snapping the front diff. I seen a new taco yesterday and first thought to my head brittle and a liability off-road. Toyota has a lot to makeup.
Well we can forget a removable top from Toyota. Based on that rear hatch. I just hope the manual makes it back which I am highly convinced it will.
Dealers will run Toyota into the ground! The Landcruiser 1958 is listed at $55k. My dealer is selling it for $78k!!!!!!!!! Absolutely ridiculous and appalling!
Find a different dealer
@@technom3598gosh golly! Have you always been such a shrewd problem solver?? Boy-Howdy just plain brilliant!
@@mattalexander4699 right. I know... Its such a beautiful insight and suggestion... I can see how the OP could find himself in the predicament of being appauled and feeling ripped off and then doing nothing about it...
Then again... This is now the culture... Somehow outrage has become a currency.
We are missing the more obvious point, the starting price of 55k for the base Land Cruiser is 15k too high. It comes with nothing and after fees you are nearly to 60k. Just ridiculous
@@Grimace99 sure... But it's still 30k less than the last one and the same size.
The Toyota will be reliable too. I wouldn't buy a Ford or an FCA vehicle. That Toyata is interesting though.
Here in Toronto Canada they are getting stolen faster than they roll off the assembly line. Park it in your driveway or at the mall and go shopping it's a 50/50 chance it will be there when you return. Do it daily like parking and taking the train or subway to work and there is a 100% chance it will be stolen.
Didnt the new Tundra (or Tacoma, I forget which) already have a recall?
These truck manufacturers do a great job “romanticizing “ off road capabilities that 99% of us will never use. The commercials make people fantasize about the freedom of the outdoors. To me, as long as a vehicle can handle snowstorms and maybe a little mud, I’m good. However, I did use 4 low and lockers in my Tacoma to get me out of a blizzard one time in 8 years. Was nice to have , but I think a quality ride on the road is more my focus now
I love my 4runner but the frame is going. My mechanic said 1 year to 3 max depends on how much snow we get. Waiting to see what Toyota does with the new 4runner.
not to mention we might be having a Xterra on the way too
New xtrerra is not coming buddy and Even if it did .it wont bother Toyota at all.
Did the 4runner ever lose the crown in the first place?
Unfortunately yes, but I’d love to see this new one finally out perform a wrangler. Also, if you doubt me, open invitation to anyone with a stock new Toyota to join me on a tough trail (stock wrangler here).
@@coloradomallcrawlers Yeah, good idea to ask 4runner to join you. You know that the 4runner can bring you back home safely or can go back and bring part(s) to fix your broken down Wrangler on a trail. I'm just joking. Of course, Jeeps are more off-road capable even in stock form with approach and departure angle along with solid axle, etc. To me the biggest issue with the 4runner and the Land Cruiser is their front and rear ends sticking out too much from the tires. But then Toyota never made them to be rock crawlers.
All the 4Runner needs to do is maintain its current off-road abilities but add the convertible top and removable doors feature. With Toyota’s reliability reputation, they would seriously take a major bite out of Wrangler/Bonco sales then. Most people will never do extreme rock crawling off-roading…but love the fun open air experience. It’s not like any of them are cheap or affordable anymore.
Unfortunately the new 4Runner, just like the new Land Cruiser, will not get the turbo V-6. That sucks. These trucks are just too large to be powered by a 4, whether it’s hybrid or not, and the Toyota 4 is just not all that satisfying or refined if you drive the new Tacoma or Lexus RX.
@@shield010 toyota's " reliability" reputation LEFT with the 2024 tacoma.
Toyota needs to offer factory 35s and 37s on the 4Runner, along with front lockers and sway bar disconnect, as well as removable top and doors. If they do this, I will trade my Bronco Badlands for a 4Runner in a heart beat.
Wonder if those Tacoma front diff issues are also going to be on the new 4Runner.
IF they price it anything like the Tacoma, only a small percentage will buy it.
Which won't be good for sales.
Tacoma, isn't selling like they thought it would right now.
It's almost like the "Tundra," in many ways.
It's ALL about pricing.
I see tundras every street corner everywhere I go so not sure what you’re talking about tundra not selling. Also Tacoma quite literally just launched just came out and people are probably blowing up the pre-orders and waiting for the trucks to actually be available to arrive to the dealers to pick up, also they haven’t even released all the models yet so not sure how you say Tacoma’s aren’t selling like they thought they would barely even started
The 15 year old 4R design top trim still sells for ~60k and they fly off the lot. A 15 year old design… I’m sure they we’ll sell just fine.
Im in Riverside CA and these Toyota lots are full of trucks so these 2 people saying Tundras and Tacomas sell fast must be Toyota sales reps because we dont see that here. Also these streets are full of Silverados and not Tundras like that one commentor stated
@@VIVACRISTOREY- here in Florida Jacksonville you wanna come over and see all the tundras all over the streets driving around be my guest. Got jeeps tundras Tacoma’s forerunners all up the butt everywhere.
@@artieartyaFigures... when you have a competent Governor things stay good, ya'll are rich over there in Florida.
I'm a prior TACO owner < great rigs. THAT said, i hope they continue to include appropriate ICE power plants in their lineup as i will ride a horse into our tiny desert town for grocery runs or up Wheeler Pass before i ever include an electric/hybrid in my driveway.
Toyota Lexus hands down. The problem with the market over here is greedy dealers and their price gouging. Before the Bronco coming back, Ford seemed to be MIA for a long time as well.
What about the axel issues??
Coffee time ☕ ....Happy Saturday ✌️
Great overview, I appreciate you both sharing your ideas and thoughts based on your hands-on experiences
Ford and jeep might be the most offroad focus in the US but here in Guatemala Toyota is offroad king. You see 22r going to the most treacherous terrains any vaehicle can get. The hilux, LC300, land cruiser prado and fortuners are the ranchers and farmers preferred work tool.
That’s only cause there’s no Jeeps near by
@@blakemarchand6650 yes there are. We do have a jeep dealer also ford and dodge. We had ranger raptors for about 5 years on the older body style. You would be surprised our vehicle market is very diversed. But people prefer toyota due to its reliability.
Yep. You don’t see a ton of jeeps in Africa, Middle East or Asia
Sixty years of off road and I never wanted a removable roof or doors
A removable cardboard or plastic top on the Jeep and Bronco is NOT an advantage! lol
That’ll be your little secret.
Yea, it’s not a real off road vehicle unless it can go topless. 🤷🏼♂️
@@crawdaddct 99% of people who buy these never go off road, they just imagine they will
@@crawdaddctI used too smash on my xj top don’t go down
Top, roll cage, doors, and windshield frame are relatively cheap and easy to replace on a Jeep or Bronco. If you were to damage the roofline of a 4Runner, it would be very expensive to fix or maybe even a total loss.
So where does the Sequoia sit in the Toyota lineup? That’s the part that’s not super clear.
The Sequioa now sits where the 200 Series Land Cruiser used to sit, on top of the lineup. The real issue is, now that the Land Cruiser (in North America) has now gone downmarket, where does that put the 4runner?
Rav4, 4Runner, Landcruiser, Sequioa
@@JogBird is this just for offroad SUVs or all of Toyota's SUVs? Because there's the Highlander and Grand Highlander, as well as the Crown Signia and Corolla Cross.
@@damilolaakanniCorolla cross rav4 crown signia Highlander 4Runner Land Cruiser sequoia
With Land Cruiser being a thing I think 4Runner may find it has a ceiling other brands like Ford and Dodge don’t have. Think Camaro/Corvette
Don't forget a xterra is on the way and if what you reported is true it might get that removable top they requested a patent for
Ok, but, the problem I see is that Toyotas big advantage has been their durability. They maintained that durability and reliability by staying with 20 year old technology. Now they have modernized their Engines and transmission. I’m already hearing stories from Toyota mechanics about how many problems they are seeing with the new drive train.
Ford is also fighting problems with the Engines and Transmission in their trucks and Broncos. There is talk of recalls on their turbo engines.
Jeep. As long as you stay away from the 4XE and stick with the 3.6 V6 , you should be in fine shape.
I have several friends that drive the older V6 4 runners. I drive an older Grand Cherokee with the 3.6 and 8 speed automatic. My GC is trail rated. I have more power, better ride, much better gas mileage. And can match them off-road without breaking a sweat.
That 3.6 is okay, I would not say you will be good. I currently have one. Runs okay, but needs the lifters replaced at least once a year. Terrible design. Not to mention dang electrical issues. Ground faults. Still love it and looking at getting a Gladiator. My wife though does not trust any Stellantis product, so she got a Bronco. Has been great so far. I think a lot of times these issues get blown out of proportion by online creators trying to get clicks. Toyota should be fine.
What problems is Ford having with Bronco engines and trans? They had one problem with a small sample of 2.7s that got a bad run of valves. The 2.7 is the volume selling engine across the lineup with very little problems. The 10 speed is in just about every Ford and there are no major issues.
I think Toyota and Lexus have nailed the styling on these 2 (Land Cruiser and GX). I like the GX better. I think Toyota has identified their weakest link: styling. They've never before been a leader in that category IMO.
agreed, some of the newer stuff looks much better like the LC and GX.
@@WranglermanLevi I also love the styling on the Prius and the Crown.
I never thought of Jeeps and Ford as a competitor, you can modify the 4runner to match Jeeps/Ford spec, but you can't modify the Jeeps/Ford to the 4runner reliability.
You can, pretty easily in fact.
Modifying the 4 runner is a terrible idea. Watch the car care nut an expert Toyota mechanics. He will explain why should never lift of 4 runner.
You will have to spend a lot of money for a 4 Runner to even come close to matching a Jeep in off-roading. From the stuff I watch and see modern Toyotas aren’t as reliable as people say they are.
@@TheHitSquadOffroad exactly.
Can't wait to hear Roman complain how it's not as plush or luxurious as his precious Range Rover piles
Can’t wait to see what a Toyota 4 runner gonna look like if they bring back the manual transmission like my dad had it I’ll be the first one to buy it and also my dad said the same thing he had a 1984Runner with five speed.. had that for 10 years for work . with 125,560 on it then get the jeep 1994 Cherokee with the straight six for work
Will be interesting to pit the New 4Runner against the new Ranger based FORD Everest!! Which I think FORD should sell in the US even if some claims it would compete with the Bronco.
Didn't the 4runner snap it's drivetrain during a test? Or was that the Tacoma?
I do not see these cars as better than the Jeep Wrangler. They do not offer what the Jeep Wrangler offers off-road. The Jeep Wrangler is an undisputed champion.
I own a 4Runner and a JGC. They are both great, but different. Long 6 hour road trip back to my folks house? 4Runner - more room and cargo area for kids and doggo. 3 feet of snow? JEEP. Better 4X4 system, HEMI. Love em both.
*C'MON Toyota give us a 2 door 4runner*
Isn't that what the FJ cruiser was for? Serious question.
@@maw1186 FJ was much bigger (longer) then a standard 2door though.
its too niche, it wont happen. The only buyer would be you and another person.
They had one, the FJ, and hardly anyone bought them.
Ford and Jeep should be very thankful Toyota does not put a removable top on the 4Runner! Can't even imagine the sales they would steal! (Jeep should also thank Toyota for a hard top on the Tacoma too!)
If it look's as good as the thumbnail image 😮😮omg its gonna sell like hot cake if the price is good
Expendable money for average Americans is drying up. Vehicle sales will start to slow down. Unless banks start normalizing 10+ year auto loans. (I could see that happening)
Do you think they’ll try and go against the Kia telluride and the Jeep grand Cherokee L ? Add a third row that can off road?
I think that’s Toyota Highlander territory, maybe.
@@Cleophis1975ya that's what grand highlander goes at.
isnt the highlander going to be discontinued? Or was it a false rumor? I dont think anyone takes a Kia serious for overlanding, never seen them in Australia and Afrika doing it at least.
We need a FJ with a v6 and comparable features to the Bronco. Removable hardtop etc…..
So, there is a demographic of buyers who spend $80,000 on an SUV and then take it out and scratch the crap out of it, cake it with mud, dent it and possibly roll it doing hard core off-road?
*shrug* I offroad my $145k truck. It's just a machine. It can be fixed if it breaks. Vehicles aren't investments. They're depreciating assets. I don't care about resale value since I'll be buried in my truck.
@@nothingtoseaheardammit No you don’t. Unless you mean driving down a gravel road.
These are for mall crawler individuals. My wife has a brand new Bronco, we do light off roading, beach stuff, but no way I’m going out and pushing it. That’s for the old beat up paid for truck. 😂
according to youtube, everyone does this, why are you
@@therealjohnsmith4811and how do you know?
jeep is basically trying to be a luxury brand at this point, the wrangler is impractical and only good as a second vehicle for most ppl (ie people with money), while their every vehciles have escalated in price drastically, they have no entry vehicles
Started when Women started buying Wranglers and people started trading rubber ducks. It's a lifestyle symbol now. Lifestyles are money makers.
@@brandonrides8953Bronco jumped on the wagon quick too.
@@crawdaddct The Broncos are junk especially offroad!
Wrangler is so ridiculously overpriced. With sincerity, I can't stop associating stupidity with the people driving them. And does Jeep include tattoos and a pit bull with every sale?
I hope the 4Runner will offer a manual, and one that isn't bad.
If that short cut is coming from Jeep, Toyota needs a FJ that's actually a callback to tbe 40/45....not some joke of an EV.
Ther 4Runner should be the lowest cost of mfg it has ever been as it is going to contain so much content from the Tacoma which does 250k unit sales in the USA. Add 135-150k 4Runner unit sales and Toyota should be able to offer the new 4Runner at a very competitive price. If they choose to do so is the question that will need to be answered in the very near future.
I just bought a Lexus CT200H with winter tires. Getting 45 MPG easily
Holy crap the 550 makes more hp and torque than a gm 8.1 vortec 😮
Truly, the gems 💎 are the GX460 and 5th generation 4Runner. Anyone on the market should buy it NOW. You will regret if you don’t get them. The newer offerings from Toyota is moving towards more power, more unrefined unproven territories. It is going to be years to iron teething challenges.
Few people give Land Rover the respect they are due. I have a Jeep but have watched tons of Jeeps be pulled out of trouble by a Rover.
Toyota has always had a lot of 4x4s
Is Roman going through chemotherapy?
Low end?
I wish Honda would buy Jeep from Stellantis before they drive the brand into the ground. Jeep needs a large automotive company with a good corporate philosophy and solid engineering behind it to keep the brand alive. Honda needs an offroad component in it's lineup and they have excellent business acumen and an excellent engineering reputation. Stellantis just fired 250 of it's engineers...I think the problems are more in the board room at Stellantis and not in the engineering department.
If you want them to end up elements, sure.
Jeep is such an iconic brand I think Honda would be smart enough to keep them true to the Jeep heritage and not try and rebrand them as Hondas. Jeep's main appeal is it's ruggedness in image and capability. Jeep is already screwing that up by trying to make them more upscale and luxurious and expensive. The money and engineering should be put into the drive train for dependability and keeping the amenities as simple as possible to keep costs down.@@Echo22WC
If they make another solid front axle land cruiser then it's over