It doesn’t matter how strong Beerus will turn out to be in DB because of simple reasons: Both the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald on it own give Sonic the Super form. Considering the Master Emerald has infinite power, and the Chaos Emeralds give the same form one would get with the Master Emerald, then the Chaos Emeralds together also have infinite power. In Sonic Adventure Super Sonic was required to beat Perfect Chaos. However, later on Base Sonic was enough to destroy that same exact enemy. This means that Base Sonic has (somehow) achieved infinite power already. In other words, not only would Base Sonic be enough, but a Super Sonic would quite literally have infinite^2 power. And don’t even get me started on Sonic’s other forms.
Are you forgetting a completely suppressed and relaxed Beerus cut a planet in half by tapping his finger on it on a table? It took Sonic way more effort to do that in frontiers
Beerus does win DC for obvious reasons. But Super Sonic could most likely contend with Zeno, his guards, and the Grand Priest, or at bear minimum the angels. This is the guy who fought Solaris, The End, Dark Gaia, and others in Super, and Infinite in Base. All 12 GODs could jump him at once and he'd still beat the crap out of all of them.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983 Wdym "No"? You know what, maybe I AM glazing. But Super Sonic contending with Angels isn't totally crazy. What are they going to do, beat him up? To be fair, I don't know about Zeno Erasure or a GOD's hakai after thinking about it. And we haven't even seen what Zeno's guards can do, so you know what, I don't know. I'm only saying he could survive reality warping and hakais because of the fight with solaris, who probably could have just deleted bro if he could.
@@supersonic7212 "What are they gonna do, beat him up?" ... yes. If Sonic can die from an insane scientist, he can die from a God's TEACHER. And there's twelve of them. I'm not saying you're glazing, but Sonic contending with a God that has millions of years of experience just isn't really possible.
Mostly cause beerues Is op I mean yea sonic took down gods like in sonic unleashed but he needed help of chip and beerues while fighting goku almost destroyed the universe without even going all out and he has a move that can instantly kill someone I do think sonic might have a chance just not a very big one
@@2009monkeys Super Sonic manipulates reality, besides having the power to recreate dimensions. and Super Sonic 2 or Cyber Super Sonic, defeated The End, who is said to be able to Beat Super Sonic. And Hakai does not work on beings stronger than the user or immortals, and Super Sonic cannot die
In the files, it IS called Super 2. However, most fans give it their own name. A few examples are Superior Super Sonic (like in this video), Starfall Super Sonic, Cyber Super Sonic (which I personally think fits better for that one form that one-shotted The End) and Super Sonic (FP).
Actually for me personally game sonic can defeat Zeno based on feats for e.g. hear me out first, he defeated Erazor Djinn after he absorbed half of 1001 universes in his base form and Zeno has only shown erasure with has not true power plus his childish personality but like I said this is my personal opinion.
See I’m a fan of both Dragon Ball and Sonic and to see the DB copers in this comments sections is hilarious. Sonic absolutely clears Beerus. Beerus I’m sure can beat base Sonic but Super Sonic pretty much solos Dragon Ball
Por favor, lamento romper sus ilusiones, pero Sonic en su super forma es mucho más poderoso que un dios. Ya que derrotó aún ser capaz de deformar y destruir la realidad y ahora que tiene una segunda fase super deja en ridículo a Goku Ultra Instinto dominado. Así que, Sonic en su super forma fase 2 deja en ridículo hasta el mismo bills
Beerus tapped a table twice and DESTROYED HALF OF A PLANET CLEAN OFF. It took him literally no effort at all. And that was in his INTRODUCTION in Battle of Gods, when he his 70% power was comparable to SSG GOKU that was HOLDING BACK. And both have gotten seriously stronger. The only thing that I've seen Sonic do at all is chill, eat, run, and defeat robots. I know that Sonic is very strong, but Sonic hasn't done enough to be comparable to Beerus. Like, at all. Sorry.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983and archie sonic ran through 1000 dimensions in less then a day and strength/force(i think atleast) is Speed X Mass so planetary is not a problem and solaris was threatining to destroy the sonic cosmololgy (which is infinite universes with infinite dimensions with inifnite possibilties or something like that confirmed by one of the curators of archie sonic) and infinite was stated to be stronger then anything sonic faced before so sonic scales above that so cope
Scaling Sonic The Hedgehog: Sonic Defeated perfect chaos Who is absorbed the power of the chaos emeralds. The same Chaos Emeralds which were stated to constantly have infinite/unlimited power Sonic Defeated Erazor Djinn Who destroyed/ consumed 1001 universes of The Arabian nights which was stated to be World of endless adventures. The Arabian nights has an infinite space and an astral plane with metaphysical properties. Sonic also Defeated the time eater Who was stated to be a primordial being and it can control Time and space, it could erase Time and Space with ease. The Time Eater is also able to erase The Main Sonic Timeline. Solaris was going to destroy everything which would include the Arabian nights and the Maginaryworld. The Arabian Knights Are stated to be Endless/ Infinite Realms that contain Dreams, Magic and Adventure which gives them access to scaling from Maginaryworld. In Other Words The Arabian Knights are part of the Maginaryworld Omniverse. Maginaryworld: The main setting of Sonic Shuffle. It is where llumina, the Forcejewels and the Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created from the dreams of people in other dimensions through the power of the Precioustone, and contains parts of everyone's dreams. The Master Precioustone serves as the gateway to this world, and serves as the nexus of this world's reality. Maginaryworld is the source of the dreams of all worlds. Sonic defeated Infinite is stated to be Trillion Times more stronger than all Sonic villains. also the Phantom Ruby's has more strength than the Master Emeralds! Phantom Ruby > Master Emerald. Sonic Defeated Solaris Who is stated to be a Super Dimensional Being. Solaris consumes dimensions which is only possible if Solaris transcended dimensionality. Solaris was stated to consume every existing timeline, timelines in the sonic verse were stated to be dimensions, universes and realities. Solaris was also stated to annihilate the concept of time. Solaris also destroyed the concept of SpaceTime due to the guides of Sonic 06 saying "space time itself". Solaris was stated to transform everything to nothing. The Sonic verse has lmaginary, Real Transcendent, Binary and Complex Numbers. Mathematicians, and Astrophysics Use Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers, For Their Stream of calculations it's required for such an career Robotics usually tangle around with Imaginary Numbers There's many fields of Studies to them Also the Existence of Number Sequences support such an order exist. Number Sequences are just An order of Numbers that are related to Sets So Binary Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers would prove the verse to be High Outerversal as They have Infinite sets. Transfinite mathematics and Parallel Universes also Exist in the Verse. Also:This Means The Phantom Ruby Infinite Has is The Actual Phantom Ruby and the Prototypes tave a Similar Power Scale which explains why He wanted the Prototypes destroyed. Sonic also defeated Eggmans death egg robot which has surpassed infinite. Sonic defeated the end who stated that the villains that sonic fought before were Mighty but also finite compared to it. Speed: Capable of escaping Nullspace which is an endless void of nothingness and a place where Scientific Approaches aren't Possible. Spatio Temporal Dimensions are a scientific approach. It is also a dimension that surpasses Dimensionality. (BTW Eitaro Toyoda knows the Setting and world Building of Sonic). Sonic in Sonic CD transcended the concepts of Space-Time. Was able to outrun a black hole. Was able to restore time and space. So in conclusion: Sonic is High Outerversal or Boundless or 4 infinite layers into Boundless with Irrelevant Speed.
@@user-cn4ps4co8t Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@baconhair1801dr slump is a gag manga and anime so it scales nowhere so the only way db verse would win is with that and again gags scale nowhere and destroying otherworld or even the db macroverse does not scale above sonics feats.
@@baconhair1801 yeah it scales to outer sonic scales to high outervearsal because void in sonic shuffle one shot the precious stone which was stated to be a jungian archetype that surpassed the concept of time and space and transcended dimensionality and was abolished transcending infinite of infinite hierarchies transfinite/real/imaginary and complex numbers this scales the precious stone above the db macroverse and super saiyan god goku needed a entire fight with beerus just to threaten the db macroverse.
Let's remake this first at all let's get this over with these dang dbs meatriders are crazy sonic negs the only thing beerus is getting is experience and IQ and strengt the rest gets sonic and no a hakai wouldn't even matter against sonic he has erasure protection means he can survive a hakai or a an erase from zeno
Tf is erasure protection? Also, how in the name of this green earth do YOU know that "erasure protection" can make him survive being LITERALLY TURNED TO DUST BY A HAKAI or LITERALLY ERASED OUT OF EXISTANCE FROM ZENO? Plus, Beerus is millions of years old, and he's had plenty of fights. He even said it himself. His peak has not been shown yet, so you never know how strong or fast Beerus is. I am no "DBS meatrider", but you need to do your damn research.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983 Erasure protection means that the character cannot be erased from existence, ever. Literally. It doesn’t matter what kind of existence erasure you throw at the character, it just won’t work ever. And Beerus has only trained to become GoD, after that he basically stopped and all the fights he had were never a challenge to him, unless he fought other GoD. But, considering what you said about us not knowing Beerus’s full strenght, then yeah, I can also confirm that this debate is stupid. Although, from what we know right now, Sonic would win. But that could very well change.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983 Yeah, no. For now, at least. And the reason for that is the fact that both the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald let an individual achieve a Super form. Since the Master Emerald has been stated to have infinite power, then so do all the Chaos Emeralds combined. This is important because in Sonic Adventure it took Super Sonic, aka infinite power because of the Chaos Emerald, to defeat Perfect Chaos. However later on in the serie, Sonic fought Perfect Chaos again and defeat him in base. This means that current Base Sonic is as strong if not much stronger than Super Sonic in Sonic Adventure, which means that current base Sonic alone already posseses infinite power. Beerus is NOT prepared for that.
@@i_like_videogames9517 Just because Sonic got stronger doesn't mean that he has infinite power. Goku started off at a power level of 10 in the Original DB, and now he has a godlike base power level that still isn't calculated yet. He doesn't have infinite power, he just got stronger. Or maybe Chaos is just weak. I dunno, but Sonic is strong still. But I still don't understand why they decided to give him godlike power levels, since he doesn't usually use them at all against Eggman. He uses them against random fucking things for seemingly no reason.
@@MoobsYT I think the feat you’re referring to is Sonic outrunning a black hole while being extremely tired. His best durability feat comes from not getting one-shotted by Giganto while being in base.
@@cashbrady4074 In Sonic Frontiers, during the first encounter with Giganto, Sonic got thrown across the island by the Titan. Giganto is obviously more powerful than Infinite, who’s more powerful than any villain beforehand as it was stated. So Frontiers Base Sonic survived an attack from someone far stronger than, for example, Solaris.
Sonic fanboy. Edit: Beerus>>>>Super Sonic and Beerus>>>>>>Super Sonic 2. Edit 2: I'm sorry, I understand that Super Sonic beats Beerus, also Sonic don't need Superior Super Sonic to beat full power Beerus, I think he only need normal Super Sonic.
Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@legendmegagamer9634 Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@baconhair1801 Sonic scales to outerversal Erazor djinn destroy Arabian Nights stated to be Infinite Space Started to be worlds of endless adventures the Arabian Nights stated to have the astral plane Some writers conflate this realm with heaven or paradise or union with God itself, and others do not Erazor djinn can erase 1001 of the Arabian Nights
@@chexts31 Sorry to burst everybody's bubble, but Sonic is not strong enough to defeat Beerus. He's a literal destroyer god who's destroyed countless planets just because they didn't do the simplest things. When they tried to poison him, Beerus cut the planet clean in half just from two taps. He even destroyed a planet from SNEEZING. Ain't no way.
Hyper sonic = mui goku vs beerus Strength beerus Speed sonic Iq beerus Agility sonic Stamina sonic Dura beerus Ap dc beerus Abilities beerus Technique beerus Power beerus Battel exp beerus Battel iq beerus Sonic: whaaat !? Beerus:pathetic Exp beerus skills sonic Endurance beerus Power destruction beerus Sonic:aaaaaaa!!!! Beerus: hakaai!! Sonic: noooo! Beerus low neg diff
Bruuuuhhhh sonic ain't a copy of dbz like bro sonic is definitely not a copy of dbz at all we can then also argue about jjk being a clone of demon slayer mixed with naruto so shut up
@@annacatarino716 Sonic It's not a copy, it's an upgrade. and you can't compare Hyper Sonic with Mui Goku, the power level between them is almost infinite with Sonic being stronger (and if it's really Hyper Sonic, Hakai wouldn't even tickle)
Base negs cuz Scaling Sonic The Hedgehog: Sonic Defeated perfect chaos Who is absorbed the power of the chaos emeralds. The same Chaos Emeralds which were stated to constantly have infinite/unlimited power Sonic Defeated Erazor Djinn Who destroyed/ consumed 1001 universes of The Arabian nights which was stated to be World of endless adventures. The Arabian nights has an infinite space and an astral plane with metaphysical properties. Sonic also Defeated the time eater Who was stated to be a primordial being and it can control Time and space, it could erase Time and Space with ease. The Time Eater is also able to erase The Main Sonic Timeline. Solaris was going to destroy everything which would include the Arabian nights and the Maginaryworld. The Arabian Knights Are stated to be Endless/ Infinite Realms that contain Dreams, Magic and Adventure which gives them access to scaling from Maginaryworld. In Other Words The Arabian Knights are part of the Maginaryworld Omniverse. Maginaryworld: The main setting of Sonic Shuffle. It is where llumina, the Forcejewels and the Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created from the dreams of people in other dimensions through the power of the Precioustone, and contains parts of everyone's dreams. The Master Precioustone serves as the gateway to this world, and serves as the nexus of this world's reality. Maginaryworld is the source of the dreams of all worlds. Sonic defeated Infinite is stated to be Trillion Times more stronger than all Sonic villains. also the Phantom Ruby's has more strength than the Master Emeralds! Phantom Ruby > Master Emerald. Sonic Defeated Solaris Who is stated to be a Super Dimensional Being. Solaris consumes dimensions which is only possible if Solaris transcended dimensionality. Solaris was stated to consume every existing timeline, timelines in the sonic verse were stated to be dimensions, universes and realities. Solaris was also stated to annihilate the concept of time. Solaris also destroyed the concept of SpaceTime due to the guides of Sonic 06 saying "space time itself". Solaris was stated to transform everything to nothing. The Sonic verse has lmaginary, Real Transcendent, Binary and Complex Numbers. Mathematicians, and Astrophysics Use Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers, For Their Stream of calculations it's required for such an career Robotics usually tangle around with Imaginary Numbers There's many fields of Studies to them Also the Existence of Number Sequences support such an order exist. Number Sequences are just An order of Numbers that are related to Sets So Binary Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers would prove the verse to be High Outerversal as They have Infinite sets. Transfinite mathematics and Parallel Universes also Exist in the Verse. Also:This Means The Phantom Ruby Infinite Has is The Actual Phantom Ruby and the Prototypes tave a Similar Power Scale which explains why He wanted the Prototypes destroyed. Sonic also defeated Eggmans death egg robot which has surpassed infinite. Sonic defeated the end who stated that the villains that sonic fought before were Mighty but also finite compared to it. Speed: Capable of escaping Nullspace which is an endless void of nothingness and a place where Scientific Approaches aren't Possible. Spatio Temporal Dimensions are a scientific approach. It is also a dimension that surpasses Dimensionality. (BTW Eitaro Toyoda knows the Setting and world Building of Sonic). Sonic in Sonic CD transcended the concepts of Space-Time. Was able to outrun a black hole. Was able to restore time and space. So in conclusion: Sonic is High Outerversal or Boundless or 4 infinite layers into Boundless with Irrelevant Speed.
@@user-cn4ps4co8t Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@Legendary77896 Beerus: 5D-6D(scales to dragon ball cosmology) mftl+ Game sonic(without max cosmology and string theory): 8D-9D, immeasurable speed Game Sonic Scale: (I'm not going to use full cosmology and string theory for game sonic. But he does scales relative to Archie sonic, so he most definitely could reach outerversal). So to start off we have to go into somewhat the lower ends of the sonic Cosmolgy and universe to grasp the dimensionality... Game: Sonic Shuffle Maginaryworld （マージナリワール， Majinariwaru？） is a location that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series, serving as the main setting of Sonic Shuffle. It is where Illumina, the Forcejewels and the Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created from the dreams of people in other dimensions through the power of the Precioustone, and contains parts of everyone's dreams. Maginaryworld was almost plunged into darkness by Void when he shattered the perfected Precioustone into pieces. The Maginaryworld is stated and referenced to be a 4th dimensional space multiple times in game the Kanji translates to a 4th dimensional space as well as it stated to be in guides. We can logically conclude that the maginaryworld itself is a 4th dimensional place or universe making the sonic universe at least 4th dimensional in size. Now with the actual scaling itself I'm going to be going from the lowest to the highest I can get sonic with some consistency I'll be using Vsbw and power wiki for the tiering. Game: Sonic unleashed Dark Gaia (5 - 7 t1P, Däku Gaia?), also known as simply Gaia, is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic
@@Legendary77896 Game: Sonic unleashed Dark Gaia (5 - 5 t13, Daku Gaia?), also known as simply Gaia, is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series and one of the two main antagonists of Sonic Unleashed. He is a primordial hyper energy organism from the dawn of time and the incarnation of darkness, night, and destruction. Since his birth, Dark Gaia has been in an eternal conflict with Light Gaia over earth, where they maintain a cycle of destruction and rebirth of the planet. In the present day, Dark Gaia was awoken prematurely by Dr. Eggman, who planned to use his power to establish Eggmanland, which caused him to break apart and scatter across the world. After being reassembled, Dark Gaia attempted to destroy the world, but was defeated and returned to dormancy by Sonic the Hedgehog and Light Gaia, restoring his cycle. Dark Gia just awakening was able to completely drain the chaos emeralds of their power with each Gem containing infinite energy and power. Making Dark Gia High Universal or Universal by the tiering system. Super Sonic and Chip are able to beat him making them high uni to universal as well. Game: Sonic and the black Knight: Each Storybook game takes place in a parallel universe of that of the Sonic universe which would make the Arabian knights and king authors world a 4D universe as well since these universes are Parallel to that of the original universe and tie into the maginaryworld. Merlena was going to make the world of King Arthur Go on forever so that it would never end u can interpret that she was going to make the world infinite since che ctated che wnuld make the world andlace or eternal Makina Kina Arthur'e world or univerce an infinita
@@Legendary77896 Each Storybook game takes place in a parallel universe of that of the Sonic universe which would make the Arabian knights and king authors world a 4D universe as well since these universes are Parallel to that of the original universe and tie into the maginaryworld. Merlena was going to make the world of King Arthur Go on forever so that it would never end u can interpret that she was going to make the world infinite since she stated she would make the world endless or eternal. Making King Arthur's world or universe an infinite 4th dimensional universe. Sonic beats merlena making him with Excalibur a 4th dimensional character or making him multiversal. Game Sonic and the secret rings: Arabian Nights (7 5ET > +1 / [2], Arabian Naito?), is an object that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series. It is a storybook, containing a collection of several classic tales. Accordingly, all of these tales were told by a nobleman's daughter, Scheherazade, to the selfish King Shahryar, over the course of one thousand and one nights, hence the name. The stories include "Aladdin and the Magic Lamp", "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves", and "The Adventures of Sinbad". [2]. Again this a parallel universe to sonic multiverse which would make it 4D as well it's also consist since this world ties into the maginaryworld. This world is also stated to be endless as well so u can say it would be an infinite 4D Universe since this universe also has infinite structures inside of it like the astral plane. It also should be noted that the night palace is a metaphysical realm that exists in another universe its erazer djinns own palace. Erazer Djinn with the world rings stated to be the creator multiple times and was going to recreate the entire world of the Arabian knights in his own image and warp the reality of it making him a 4 to 5D being because of him basically transcending the universe. Sonic with only 3 world rings is able to beat him with no diff u can say their own the same dimensionality it's just that Sonic is way stronger than he was. Making a Darkspine sonic anywhere from 4th to 5th dimensional being. Game: Sonic Rush Eggman with his Parallel universe counterpart intended to transcend dimensions or dimension via the Japanese kanji using the power of the soul and chaos emeralds and using the eggsalamander. Which would make them 5th dimensional with whatever statement I think the statement for beyond this dimension would just make it consistent for Sonic being 5th dimensional so let's say it's just 5D. Super Sonic and Buring Blaze destroyed both of them so u can say that they would both be 5D making Sonic consistently in these ranges or dimensionality. Game Sonic 06: Solaris (Y 51) 2, Sorarisu?) is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series. He is the sun god of Soleanna, as well as a super-dimensional lifeform and a god of time, who is worshiped by the people of Soleanna. A living flame, Solaris was split into two halves during the Solaris Project: Mephiles the Dark (his cunning mind) and Iblis (his raw power). Both of Solaris' fragments were subsequently sealed away inside of the Scepter of Darkness and the princess of Soleanna. Ten years later, Mephiles and Iblis were freed and rejoined, recreating Solaris who sought to destroy time
@@Legendary77896 Solaris (Y 5') 2, Sorarisu?) is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series. He is the sun god of Soleanna, as well as a super-dimensional lifeform and a god of time, who is worshiped by the people of Soleanna. A living flame, Solaris was split into two halves during the Solaris Project: Mephiles the Dark (his cunning mind) and Iblis (his raw power). Both of Solaris' fragments were subsequently sealed away inside of the Scepter of Darkness and the princess of Soleanna. Ten years later, Mephiles and Iblis were freed and rejoined, recreating Solaris who sought to destroy time itself, but was defeated by Super Sonic, Super Shadow and Super Silver. Solaris was subsequently erased from existence, ensuring his wrath would never be unleashed on the world. Solaris is stated numerous times to be a super dimensional life for the Japanese kanji translates to him being a hyper dimensional life form which I think makes more sense in context but Solaris would be a 5th or 6th dimensional being because of the extra statements of him eating dimensions for lunch and also with the statements of him being beyond dimensions. Being a god of time, Solaris can freely manipulate and change the fabric of time itself; according to Dr. Eggman, Solaris is capable of devouring time and space on an incomprehensible scale, encompassing consuming entire dimensions and all existing timelines, and causing world-wide instabilities that create distorted time-space rifts filled with the remains of the planet. As said by both Eggman and Duke of Soleanna, power of Solaris allows to change history and Fate itself, in Duke's case - Fixing past mistakes and ressurecting his Wife. As a transcendent life form, Solaris possesses a unique state of existence that lets him exist in the past, present and future simultaneously, making him omnipresent throughout time and virtually impossible to defeat unless he is attacked simultaneously in all eras.[6][7][8] He can also create time-space rifts which can either suck objects into oblivion or hurl meteors of condensed matter from other places at enemies which can injure even a Super State user. Solaris also doesn't seem to be able to be defeated in a conventional way, as he can seemingly continuously ressurect himself from death, similarly to his Halves, and can possibly only be dealt with by erasing him from History. So Solaris would be anywhere from 5th to 6th dimensional I think he's consistent enough to be 6th dimensional sonic shadow and silver beating this said Solaris would make them 6d as well. Game: Sonic forces: Eggman with his new creation infinite is stated to be the strongest opponent or villain Sonic has fought thus far which would put him above every villain we just went through. Infinite is powered by the phantom ruby which is stated to be more powerful than the master emerald which would it consistent that he would be the strongest. Sonic able to beat this infinite in base on numerous occasions and stats himself he gets stronger every minute this wouldn't be hyperbole since we have seen Sonic and even stated that he cliffs his super from later as more time progress. Making a base sonic 6th dimensional I say that because every feat until now has been a transformation feat which doesn't go to Sonic's base at all but now since he's fighting stronger opponents in base we can say he is above his transformations that did feats prior. And even later in game eggamn with his death egg robot is stated to surpass infinite entirely and Sonic slams him too making it consistent that base sonic would be 6th dimensional in terms of existence. Now with the scaling that we have gathered we can say base sonic is 6th dimensional at the most consistent. With super Sonic being unquantifiable amp to his base it's not stated what the multiplier is but we know that this form lets him fight higher dimensional beings than his base form. So we can say that Sonic in his base form is 6th dimensional with his super form being an add on that let him cross dimensional tiers from
Scaling Sonic The Hedgehog: Sonic Defeated perfect chaos Who is absorbed the power of the chaos emeralds. The same Chaos Emeralds which were stated to constantly have infinite/unlimited power Sonic Defeated Erazor Djinn Who destroyed/ consumed 1001 universes of The Arabian nights which was stated to be World of endless adventures. The Arabian nights has an infinite space and an astral plane with metaphysical properties. Sonic also Defeated the time eater Who was stated to be a primordial being and it can control Time and space, it could erase Time and Space with ease. The Time Eater is also able to erase The Main Sonic Timeline. Solaris was going to destroy everything which would include the Arabian nights and the Maginaryworld. The Arabian Knights Are stated to be Endless/ Infinite Realms that contain Dreams, Magic and Adventure which gives them access to scaling from Maginaryworld. In Other Words The Arabian Knights are part of the Maginaryworld Omniverse. Maginaryworld: The main setting of Sonic Shuffle. It is where llumina, the Forcejewels and the Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created from the dreams of people in other dimensions through the power of the Precioustone, and contains parts of everyone's dreams. The Master Precioustone serves as the gateway to this world, and serves as the nexus of this world's reality. Maginaryworld is the source of the dreams of all worlds. Sonic defeated Infinite is stated to be Trillion Times more stronger than all Sonic villains. also the Phantom Ruby's has more strength than the Master Emeralds! Phantom Ruby > Master Emerald. Sonic Defeated Solaris Who is stated to be a Super Dimensional Being. Solaris consumes dimensions which is only possible if Solaris transcended dimensionality. Solaris was stated to consume every existing timeline, timelines in the sonic verse were stated to be dimensions, universes and realities. Solaris was also stated to annihilate the concept of time. Solaris also destroyed the concept of SpaceTime due to the guides of Sonic 06 saying "space time itself". Solaris was stated to transform everything to nothing. The Sonic verse has lmaginary, Real Transcendent, Binary and Complex Numbers. Mathematicians, and Astrophysics Use Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers, For Their Stream of calculations it's required for such an career Robotics usually tangle around with Imaginary Numbers There's many fields of Studies to them Also the Existence of Number Sequences support such an order exist. Number Sequences are just An order of Numbers that are related to Sets So Binary Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers would prove the verse to be High Outerversal as They have Infinite sets. Transfinite mathematics and Parallel Universes also Exist in the Verse. Also:This Means The Phantom Ruby Infinite Has is The Actual Phantom Ruby and the Prototypes tave a Similar Power Scale which explains why He wanted the Prototypes destroyed. Sonic also defeated Eggmans death egg robot which has surpassed infinite. Sonic defeated the end who stated that the villains that sonic fought before were Mighty but also finite compared to it. Speed: Capable of escaping Nullspace which is an endless void of nothingness and a place where Scientific Approaches aren't Possible. Spatio Temporal Dimensions are a scientific approach. It is also a dimension that surpasses Dimensionality. (BTW Eitaro Toyoda knows the Setting and world Building of Sonic). Sonic in Sonic CD transcended the concepts of Space-Time. Was able to outrun a black hole. Was able to restore time and space. So in conclusion: Sonic is High Outerversal or Boundless or 4 infinite layers into Boundless with Irrelevant Speed.
@@_vegitoblueSo you are saying that a character who can survive existence erasure with no single scares or scratches,can be erased by a HAKAI!😂, bruh.
Base game Sonic defeated Erazor Djinn in secret rings who destroyed and absorbed half of 1001 stories of the arabian nights (story= infinite sized universe) and took his blows + with classic restored time and space in generations by running.
Base game Sonic defeated Erazor Djinn in secret rings who destroyed and absorbed half of 1001 stories of the arabian nights (story= infinite sized universe) and took his blows + with classic restored time and space in generations by running.
@@user-cn4ps4co8t Goku destroyed Kid Buu who was stated to be able to destroy the entire Universe 7 (96 different space-times) And one Ki Blast from SSGSS Goku was equal to the Spirit Bomb against Kid Buu. Sonic wouldn’t even be durable enough. Died to a black hole
@@tunsumemundela3020 u forgot base sonic restored time and space by simply running and base sonic can beat perfect chaos without the need of super form
so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as a video game that’s has P > F transcends over dragon quest is a verse that has realms that are outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outversal dr slump has an infinite loop of P > F transcendences making dr slump beyond tiering fr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters beyond tiering with your existence alone I could go way into the cosmology but these alone could solo sonic and you know that means buddy boy a regular human form dragon ball could solo all forms of sonic neg diif and don’t try to hit me with but it’s NoT caNoN kid goku and arale have met before in anime and manga so sit down no feat of sonic could stop a regular human from sonic sit down boi
Base game Sonic defeated Erazor Djinn in secret rings who destroyed and absorbed half of 1001 stories of the arabian nights (story= infinite sized universe) and took his blows + with classic restored time and space in generations by running.
@@user-qk3fq2kx7t it is, Hyper is a op transformation it can do anything that ultra and super can do how can Hyper Sonic that uses TRANSFORMED chaos emeralds(Super Emeralds) that can already do anything without any limits and lose to beerus that with clashing with goku didn't even effect the universe at all while Classic Archie Super Sonic clashed with Knuckles and made a whole universe explode with no delay along with ripping the fabric of reality so how tf can hyper lose to beerus base could solo, Game or Archie
Goku faced characters who could manipulate anything, but in the end he defeated them, the worst of defeats, so what about Beerus, nothing is affected by him?
It doesn’t matter how strong Beerus will turn out to be in DB because of simple reasons:
Both the Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald on it own give Sonic the Super form. Considering the Master Emerald has infinite power, and the Chaos Emeralds give the same form one would get with the Master Emerald, then the Chaos Emeralds together also have infinite power.
In Sonic Adventure Super Sonic was required to beat Perfect Chaos. However, later on Base Sonic was enough to destroy that same exact enemy. This means that Base Sonic has (somehow) achieved infinite power already. In other words, not only would Base Sonic be enough, but a Super Sonic would quite literally have infinite^2 power. And don’t even get me started on Sonic’s other forms.
have a versus of sonic frontiers and azusa aisawa the witch of the antiplane del anime vs goku and rimuru del anime
Are you forgetting a completely suppressed and relaxed Beerus cut a planet in half by tapping his finger on it on a table? It took Sonic way more effort to do that in frontiers
Beerus does win DC for obvious reasons. But Super Sonic could most likely contend with Zeno, his guards, and the Grand Priest, or at bear minimum the angels. This is the guy who fought Solaris, The End, Dark Gaia, and others in Super, and Infinite in Base. All 12 GODs could jump him at once and he'd still beat the crap out of all of them.
Are you forgetting that Super Sonic makes Sonic invincible?
@@supersonic7212 ... No.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983 Wdym "No"? You know what, maybe I AM glazing. But Super Sonic contending with Angels isn't totally crazy. What are they going to do, beat him up? To be fair, I don't know about Zeno Erasure or a GOD's hakai after thinking about it. And we haven't even seen what Zeno's guards can do, so you know what, I don't know. I'm only saying he could survive reality warping and hakais because of the fight with solaris, who probably could have just deleted bro if he could.
@@supersonic7212 "What are they gonna do, beat him up?"
... yes. If Sonic can die from an insane scientist, he can die from a God's TEACHER. And there's twelve of them. I'm not saying you're glazing, but Sonic contending with a God that has millions of years of experience just isn't really possible.
Lets crack this god wide open!
Cringe you furry
Beerus’s peak has never been shown, so yeah fans would say cap.
Super sonic defeated a god before in super so this would had made sense
Base Sonic is enough but w edit
I myself am a Sonic stan, but I don't think BASE SONIC beats BEERUS.
@@SamuelBloxSX on bro
are u on something? he would loose dummby
base sonic would get slammed and super sonic is still winning I'll debate
there is no debate ur just goofy ahh 💀💀@@V1DCELLS
Lets be honest u cant really compare beerus's full power to sonics as we have NEVER seen his full potential
Which sonic we taking about cause I think Archie sonic may have a chance
He is using game sonic's voice and footage
@matitheanimator than sonic ain't winning
@@2009monkeys why do you think that?
Mostly cause beerues Is op I mean yea sonic took down gods like in sonic unleashed but he needed help of chip and beerues while fighting goku almost destroyed the universe without even going all out and he has a move that can instantly kill someone I do think sonic might have a chance just not a very big one
@@2009monkeys Super Sonic manipulates reality, besides having the power to recreate dimensions. and Super Sonic 2 or Cyber Super Sonic, defeated The End, who is said to be able to Beat Super Sonic. And Hakai does not work on beings stronger than the user or immortals, and Super Sonic cannot die
I though the form is called Super Sonic 2 or something but i guess that's alright
In the files, it IS called Super 2.
However, most fans give it their own name.
A few examples are Superior Super Sonic (like in this video), Starfall Super Sonic, Cyber Super Sonic (which I personally think fits better for that one form that one-shotted The End) and Super Sonic (FP).
Sonic win into super sonic 😮
Archie sonic - sonic stomp
Game sonic - Beerus stomp
Game sonic wins y’all underestimate him
Do they know Beerus has Hakai even ghost was erased
Hakai needs to touch someone to work
Sonic came back from total existence eraser in base
Hakai can't kill Goku so it can def not kill sonic
Plus sonic way faster than the move
The hakai only works on beings weak than the user, it's not a instant win
if they used the strongest form of sonic he could prob beat a lot of characters in dbz
Even Zeno?
Archie sonic
@@kgaugelosana-mf8et i’m not sure but yea like the guy said it’s archie sonic and he’s super powerful which i’m pretty sure is his most powerful form
Base Sonic is enough
Actually for me personally game sonic can defeat Zeno based on feats for e.g. hear me out first, he defeated Erazor Djinn after he absorbed half of 1001 universes in his base form and Zeno has only shown erasure with has not true power plus his childish personality but like I said this is my personal opinion.
Nice
See I’m a fan of both Dragon Ball and Sonic and to see the DB copers in this comments sections is hilarious. Sonic absolutely clears Beerus. Beerus I’m sure can beat base Sonic but Super Sonic pretty much solos Dragon Ball
Yeah, meanwhile super saiyan is just Buffs on strength, super sonic makes him literally invincible
@@silverstar1614 AND adds all those OP abilities.. and no, I ain’t only talking about Chaos Control.
W DB fan 🗿
Por favor, lamento romper sus ilusiones, pero Sonic en su super forma es mucho más poderoso que un dios. Ya que derrotó aún ser capaz de deformar y destruir la realidad y ahora que tiene una segunda fase super deja en ridículo a Goku Ultra Instinto dominado.
Así que, Sonic en su super forma fase 2 deja en ridículo hasta el mismo bills
Super Sonic o Darkspine Sonic de por si ya eran comparables al ultra instinto. Super Sonic 2 derrota sin dificultad a Beerus
Lo peor es que dicen que sonic nada mas es rapido y ya 😅😅😅@@MilesReset
Cualquier cosa sacamos al Archie Sonic y ya no hay nada que hacer 🤓☝️
@@X_2-0-1-1.modo_latam literal el sonic es juegos es como el patio de juegos o el tutorial y el sonic archie es el modo arcore con un corazon
@@PABLOGLEZ01 :v
Beerus:i admit you a big weaker than i thought
Beerus gets slammed on his head
Okay, listen, Im not saying sonic loses all together, but I am saying its gonna take alot more than cyber super sonic to beat beerus,
Nah it takes base
Sonic and beerus are both hyperversal in my option but sonic would slam due to his feats High diff.
Beerus tapped a table twice and DESTROYED HALF OF A PLANET CLEAN OFF. It took him literally no effort at all. And that was in his INTRODUCTION in Battle of Gods, when he his 70% power was comparable to SSG GOKU that was HOLDING BACK. And both have gotten seriously stronger. The only thing that I've seen Sonic do at all is chill, eat, run, and defeat robots. I know that Sonic is very strong, but Sonic hasn't done enough to be comparable to Beerus. Like, at all. Sorry.
Oh, I forgot to mention that Beerus also destroyed an entire planet from just SNEEZING. Sorry, but Sonic doesn't stand a chance.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983and archie sonic ran through 1000 dimensions in less then a day and strength/force(i think atleast) is Speed X Mass so planetary is not a problem and solaris was threatining to destroy the sonic cosmololgy (which is infinite universes with infinite dimensions with inifnite possibilties or something like that confirmed by one of the curators of archie sonic) and infinite was stated to be stronger then anything sonic faced before so sonic scales above that so cope
@@MrAkira-1t7 i seriously don't want to mention sonic anymore after this, fuck you Sega
Beerus is basically cooked if sonic goes super
funny joke of how beerus loses 😂😂😂😂
@@MoobsYT it wasn't a joke kid
@@mouslimjaber-ze7sg I know but kinda funny, I know Beerus loses but you said he gets cooked😂😂😂
That means Beerus loses against Sonic
@@MoobsYT well he does
Lord beerus:L
Sonic:W
you first find out who Beerus is, then try to give Sonic any form so that he can try to do at least something against the god of destruction...
Scaling Sonic The Hedgehog:
Sonic Defeated perfect chaos Who is absorbed
the power of the chaos emeralds. The same
Chaos Emeralds which were stated to constantly
have infinite/unlimited power
Sonic Defeated Erazor Djinn Who destroyed/
consumed 1001 universes of The Arabian nights
which was stated to be World of endless
adventures. The Arabian nights has an infinite
space and an astral plane with metaphysical
properties.
Sonic also Defeated the time eater Who was
stated to be a primordial being and it can control
Time and space, it could erase Time and Space
with ease. The Time Eater is also able to erase
The Main Sonic Timeline. Solaris was going to destroy everything which
would include the Arabian nights and the
Maginaryworld.
The Arabian Knights Are stated to be Endless/
Infinite Realms that contain Dreams, Magic and
Adventure which gives them access to scaling
from Maginaryworld. In Other Words The Arabian
Knights are part of the Maginaryworld
Omniverse.
Maginaryworld: The main setting of Sonic Shuffle.
It is where llumina, the Forcejewels and the
Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created
from the dreams of people in other dimensions
through the power of the Precioustone, and
contains parts of everyone's dreams.
The Master Precioustone serves as the gateway
to this world, and serves as the nexus of this
world's reality. Maginaryworld is the source of the
dreams of all worlds.
Sonic defeated Infinite is stated to be Trillion
Times more stronger than all Sonic villains.
also the Phantom Ruby's has more strength than
the Master Emeralds! Phantom Ruby > Master
Emerald. Sonic Defeated Solaris Who is stated to be a
Super Dimensional Being. Solaris consumes dimensions which is only
possible if Solaris transcended
dimensionality. Solaris was stated to consume every existing
timeline, timelines in the sonic verse were stated
to be dimensions, universes and realities. Solaris was also stated to annihilate the concept
of time. Solaris also destroyed the concept of SpaceTime
due to the guides of Sonic 06 saying "space time
itself".
Solaris was stated to transform everything to
nothing. The Sonic verse has lmaginary, Real
Transcendent, Binary and Complex Numbers. Mathematicians, and Astrophysics Use Real,
Imaginary Complex Numbers, For Their Stream of
calculations it's required for such an career
Robotics usually tangle around with Imaginary
Numbers There's many fields of Studies to them
Also the Existence of Number Sequences support
such an order exist. Number Sequences are just
An order of Numbers that are related to Sets So
Binary Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers would
prove the verse to be High Outerversal as They
have Infinite sets.
Transfinite mathematics and Parallel Universes
also Exist in the Verse. Also:This Means The Phantom Ruby Infinite Has is
The Actual Phantom Ruby and the Prototypes
tave a Similar Power Scale which explains why
He wanted the Prototypes destroyed.
Sonic also defeated Eggmans death egg robot
which has surpassed infinite. Sonic defeated the end who stated that the
villains that sonic fought before were Mighty but
also finite compared to it.
Speed:
Capable of escaping Nullspace which is an
endless void of nothingness and a place where
Scientific Approaches aren't Possible. Spatio
Temporal Dimensions are a scientific approach. It
is also a dimension that surpasses
Dimensionality.
(BTW Eitaro Toyoda knows the Setting and world
Building of Sonic).
Sonic in Sonic CD transcended the concepts of
Space-Time.
Was able to outrun a black hole.
Was able to restore time and space.
So in conclusion:
Sonic is High Outerversal or Boundless or 4
infinite layers into Boundless with Irrelevant
Speed.
@@user-cn4ps4co8t Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@baconhair1801dr slump is a gag manga and anime so it scales nowhere so the only way db verse would win is with that and again gags scale nowhere and destroying otherworld or even the db macroverse does not scale above sonics feats.
@@user-yd2dj4lj1s thst feat alone scales him to outer jsut a kaioken could solo sonic
@@baconhair1801 yeah it scales to outer sonic scales to high outervearsal because void in sonic shuffle one shot the precious stone which was stated to be a jungian archetype that surpassed the concept of time and space and transcended dimensionality and was abolished transcending infinite of infinite hierarchies transfinite/real/imaginary and complex numbers this scales the precious stone above the db macroverse and super saiyan god goku needed a entire fight with beerus just to threaten the db macroverse.
Let's remake this first at all let's get this over with these dang dbs meatriders are crazy sonic negs the only thing beerus is getting is experience and IQ and strengt the rest gets sonic and no a hakai wouldn't even matter against sonic he has erasure protection means he can survive a hakai or a an erase from zeno
Tf is erasure protection? Also, how in the name of this green earth do YOU know that "erasure protection" can make him survive being LITERALLY TURNED TO DUST BY A HAKAI or LITERALLY ERASED OUT OF EXISTANCE FROM ZENO? Plus, Beerus is millions of years old, and he's had plenty of fights. He even said it himself. His peak has not been shown yet, so you never know how strong or fast Beerus is. I am no "DBS meatrider", but you need to do your damn research.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983 Erasure protection means that the character cannot be erased from existence, ever. Literally. It doesn’t matter what kind of existence erasure you throw at the character, it just won’t work ever. And Beerus has only trained to become GoD, after that he basically stopped and all the fights he had were never a challenge to him, unless he fought other GoD. But, considering what you said about us not knowing Beerus’s full strenght, then yeah, I can also confirm that this debate is stupid. Although, from what we know right now, Sonic would win. But that could very well change.
@@i_like_videogames9517 Beerus can win a fight without Hakai or something like that.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983 Yeah, no. For now, at least. And the reason for that is the fact that both the Chaos Emeralds and the Master Emerald let an individual achieve a Super form. Since the Master Emerald has been stated to have infinite power, then so do all the Chaos Emeralds combined. This is important because in Sonic Adventure it took Super Sonic, aka infinite power because of the Chaos Emerald, to defeat Perfect Chaos. However later on in the serie, Sonic fought Perfect Chaos again and defeat him in base. This means that current Base Sonic is as strong if not much stronger than Super Sonic in Sonic Adventure, which means that current base Sonic alone already posseses infinite power. Beerus is NOT prepared for that.
@@i_like_videogames9517 Just because Sonic got stronger doesn't mean that he has infinite power. Goku started off at a power level of 10 in the Original DB, and now he has a godlike base power level that still isn't calculated yet. He doesn't have infinite power, he just got stronger. Or maybe Chaos is just weak. I dunno, but Sonic is strong still. But I still don't understand why they decided to give him godlike power levels, since he doesn't usually use them at all against Eggman. He uses them against random fucking things for seemingly no reason.
I THOUGH IT WAS IN SHORT
Durability goes to beerus
No, its goes to Sonic, I think someone said Sonic with standed a black hole
@@MoobsYT I think the feat you’re referring to is Sonic outrunning a black hole while being extremely tired. His best durability feat comes from not getting one-shotted by Giganto while being in base.
@@i_like_videogames9517he didn’t and he has better feats than that
@@cashbrady4074 In Sonic Frontiers, during the first encounter with Giganto, Sonic got thrown across the island by the Titan. Giganto is obviously more powerful than Infinite, who’s more powerful than any villain beforehand as it was stated. So Frontiers Base Sonic survived an attack from someone far stronger than, for example, Solaris.
Base wins he beat gods that are stronger than beerus in base
Sonic fanboy.
Edit: Beerus>>>>Super Sonic and Beerus>>>>>>Super Sonic 2.
Edit 2: I'm sorry, I understand that Super Sonic beats Beerus, also Sonic don't need Superior Super Sonic to beat full power Beerus, I think he only need normal Super Sonic.
Super sonic > > > > berus no concepto of dif
Beerus is mid-high multiversal
Super sonic is high outer-low gigaversal
@@cypherarchieSonic-zq7ci The only way Sonic can win is if he doesn't be cocky about his speed and if he holds enough rings, if not Beerus stomps
@@MoobsYT Rings are not canon
@@cypherarchieSonic-zq7ci D O I CARE?
@@cypherarchieSonic-zq7ciAlso only Archie or Game Sonic wins
Bruh sonic has defeated gods that alternate reality,all beerus does is goof around eating pudding
classic sonic solos the verse in base
Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@legendmegagamer9634 Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@baconhair1801
Sonic scales to outerversal
Erazor djinn destroy Arabian Nights stated to be Infinite Space
Started to be worlds of endless adventures the Arabian Nights stated to have the astral plane
Some writers conflate this realm with heaven or paradise or union with God itself, and others do not
Erazor djinn can erase 1001 of the Arabian Nights
@@RadioDemon-z9k read the comment 🤓 it’s literally saids thst they can go beyond the tiering system just by their existence
Sonic is legendary
En IQ gana bills ?
Mario and Goku victims
Mano disse q o sonic e mais inteligente q um deus q viveu milhares de anos😂
Sonic is strong yes.
But the beerus needs to use 1 technique
"hakai"
Hakai doesn’t do anything to sonic and sonic scales higher than beerus so he basically negates it
Did you know that hakai literally erases immortal gods?
Now you know. this is the same unbalanced technique as the chaos emeralds in sonic
@@Minos_Prime_wewe Zamasu didn’t have anything to counter but Sonic does. Sonic slams zamasu anyway, he’s fodder💀
Wtf.
Opm funs much better than sonic fans
In general, I assumed that you would prove your point to me.
@@Minos_Prime_wewe my point is Sonic slams beerus, there is no win con for beerus
تغلب سونيك على بيروس
Sonic can beat a god
if sonic went hyper then he might beat beerus
Sonic doesn’t need hyper, super is enough
Uh are u sure thou?
@@ansarhidayababasidik7528 yea
@@chexts31 Sorry to burst everybody's bubble, but Sonic is not strong enough to defeat Beerus. He's a literal destroyer god who's destroyed countless planets just because they didn't do the simplest things. When they tried to poison him, Beerus cut the planet clean in half just from two taps. He even destroyed a planet from SNEEZING. Ain't no way.
@@ItsLuigiTime1983 y are arguing planetary feats? Sonic been past that since his classic era
Sonics the best!
Perfect
Yaaaaay sonic
shut the fudge up he would not actualy win sonic is only fast but not strong and also, sonic stole form db so screw all u sonic fans he is bad anyway
Sonic fanboys be like yeeeeeeee😂😂😂
Beerus gets slammed
Archie sonic solos the verse
Game sonic is enough
0:48 Sonic literally flopped so badly 🤣
Let be honest
Sonics fandom is horible.....
Even horible than onepucnh man
Sonic solos dragon ball.
In your dreams
@@Minos_Prime_wewe and in real life
Hyper sonic = mui goku vs beerus
Strength beerus
Speed sonic
Iq beerus
Agility sonic
Stamina sonic
Dura beerus
Ap dc beerus
Abilities beerus
Technique beerus
Power beerus
Battel exp beerus
Battel iq beerus
Sonic: whaaat !?
Beerus:pathetic
Exp beerus
skills sonic
Endurance beerus
Power destruction beerus
Sonic:aaaaaaa!!!!
Beerus: hakaai!!
Sonic: noooo!
Beerus low neg diff
FAX BRO THESE DUMB SONIC GUYS NEED TO STOP CRYING LIKE SONIC IS JUST A COPY OF DBZ SUCH BABYS BROO
Bruuuuhhhh sonic ain't a copy of dbz like bro sonic is definitely not a copy of dbz at all we can then also argue about jjk being a clone of demon slayer mixed with naruto so shut up
@@lordenma4449 i know sonic is one copy dbz
its a copy child.
@@annacatarino716 Sonic It's not a copy, it's an upgrade. and you can't compare Hyper Sonic with Mui Goku, the power level between them is almost infinite with Sonic being stronger (and if it's really Hyper Sonic, Hakai wouldn't even tickle)
Base solos
lord beerus is stroner than superior super sonic
Base negs cuz Scaling Sonic The Hedgehog:
Sonic Defeated perfect chaos Who is absorbed
the power of the chaos emeralds. The same
Chaos Emeralds which were stated to constantly
have infinite/unlimited power
Sonic Defeated Erazor Djinn Who destroyed/
consumed 1001 universes of The Arabian nights
which was stated to be World of endless
adventures. The Arabian nights has an infinite
space and an astral plane with metaphysical
properties.
Sonic also Defeated the time eater Who was
stated to be a primordial being and it can control
Time and space, it could erase Time and Space
with ease. The Time Eater is also able to erase
The Main Sonic Timeline. Solaris was going to destroy everything which
would include the Arabian nights and the
Maginaryworld.
The Arabian Knights Are stated to be Endless/
Infinite Realms that contain Dreams, Magic and
Adventure which gives them access to scaling
from Maginaryworld. In Other Words The Arabian
Knights are part of the Maginaryworld
Omniverse.
Maginaryworld: The main setting of Sonic Shuffle.
It is where llumina, the Forcejewels and the
Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created
from the dreams of people in other dimensions
through the power of the Precioustone, and
contains parts of everyone's dreams.
The Master Precioustone serves as the gateway
to this world, and serves as the nexus of this
world's reality. Maginaryworld is the source of the
dreams of all worlds.
Sonic defeated Infinite is stated to be Trillion
Times more stronger than all Sonic villains.
also the Phantom Ruby's has more strength than
the Master Emeralds! Phantom Ruby > Master
Emerald. Sonic Defeated Solaris Who is stated to be a
Super Dimensional Being. Solaris consumes dimensions which is only
possible if Solaris transcended
dimensionality. Solaris was stated to consume every existing
timeline, timelines in the sonic verse were stated
to be dimensions, universes and realities. Solaris was also stated to annihilate the concept
of time. Solaris also destroyed the concept of SpaceTime
due to the guides of Sonic 06 saying "space time
itself".
Solaris was stated to transform everything to
nothing. The Sonic verse has lmaginary, Real
Transcendent, Binary and Complex Numbers. Mathematicians, and Astrophysics Use Real,
Imaginary Complex Numbers, For Their Stream of
calculations it's required for such an career
Robotics usually tangle around with Imaginary
Numbers There's many fields of Studies to them
Also the Existence of Number Sequences support
such an order exist. Number Sequences are just
An order of Numbers that are related to Sets So
Binary Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers would
prove the verse to be High Outerversal as They
have Infinite sets.
Transfinite mathematics and Parallel Universes
also Exist in the Verse. Also:This Means The Phantom Ruby Infinite Has is
The Actual Phantom Ruby and the Prototypes
tave a Similar Power Scale which explains why
He wanted the Prototypes destroyed.
Sonic also defeated Eggmans death egg robot
which has surpassed infinite. Sonic defeated the end who stated that the
villains that sonic fought before were Mighty but
also finite compared to it.
Speed:
Capable of escaping Nullspace which is an
endless void of nothingness and a place where
Scientific Approaches aren't Possible. Spatio
Temporal Dimensions are a scientific approach. It
is also a dimension that surpasses
Dimensionality.
(BTW Eitaro Toyoda knows the Setting and world
Building of Sonic).
Sonic in Sonic CD transcended the concepts of
Space-Time.
Was able to outrun a black hole.
Was able to restore time and space.
So in conclusion:
Sonic is High Outerversal or Boundless or 4
infinite layers into Boundless with Irrelevant
Speed.
@@user-cn4ps4co8t Goku base can be scaled to outversel in base by using dr slump comlogy same with afterlife comlogy but I only need 1 feat from dr slump to get rid of this not even close debate so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have p> f transcends over dragon quest is a verse that have realmes outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal dr slump has an infinite loop of outverel R > F transcendences making dr slump beyond the tier ing system dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters extience beyond tireing meaning that a dragon ball human could solo sonic very easy off their existence alone I could go way futher into the cosmology but this feat alone could solo sonic and it’s canon so sonic gets no dif by a regular human in dragon ball like it’s nothing sonic get soloed no feat of sonic could get pass these not even Archie sonic
@@baconhair1801 r>f shit is metafictional so scales nowhere
@@baconhair1801 and no concept of time and space≠beyond/above concept of time and space≠outerversal
Beyond tiering doesn't even exist
@@user-cn4ps4co8t it’s apart of dragon ball world and it’s canon and please be respectful
100% black hole level saitama overkills super sonic ha
He is not even here + both in this short negs multisolar fodder
Nice joke😂
Bro Berus one sneeze and planet dead go watch db then talk
@@Legendary77896 let me explain since y’all ppl don’t understand
@@Legendary77896 Beerus: 5D-6D(scales to dragon ball cosmology) mftl+
Game sonic(without max cosmology and string theory): 8D-9D, immeasurable speed
Game Sonic Scale:
(I'm not going to use full cosmology
and string theory for game sonic. But he does scales relative to Archie sonic, so he most definitely could reach outerversal).
So to start off we have to go into somewhat the lower ends of the sonic Cosmolgy and universe to grasp the dimensionality...
Game: Sonic Shuffle
Maginaryworld （マージナリワール， Majinariwaru？） is a location that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog
series, serving as the main setting of Sonic Shuffle. It is where Illumina, the Forcejewels and the Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created from the dreams of people in other dimensions through the power of the Precioustone, and contains parts of everyone's dreams. Maginaryworld was almost plunged into darkness by Void when he shattered the perfected Precioustone into pieces. The Maginaryworld is stated and referenced to be a 4th dimensional space multiple times in game the Kanji translates to a 4th dimensional space as well as it stated to be in guides. We can logically conclude that the maginaryworld itself is a 4th dimensional place or universe making the sonic universe at least 4th dimensional in size. Now with the actual scaling itself I'm going to be going from the lowest to the highest I can get sonic with some consistency I'll be using Vsbw and power wiki for the tiering.
Game: Sonic unleashed
Dark Gaia (5 - 7 t1P, Däku Gaia?), also known as simply Gaia, is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic
@@Legendary77896 Game: Sonic unleashed
Dark Gaia (5 - 5 t13, Daku Gaia?), also known as simply Gaia, is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series and one of the two main antagonists of Sonic Unleashed. He is a primordial hyper energy organism from the dawn of time and the incarnation of darkness, night, and destruction. Since his birth, Dark Gaia has been in an eternal conflict with Light Gaia over earth, where they maintain a cycle of destruction and rebirth of the planet.
In the present day, Dark Gaia was awoken prematurely by Dr. Eggman, who planned to use his power to establish Eggmanland, which caused him to break apart and scatter across the world. After being reassembled, Dark Gaia attempted to destroy the world, but was defeated and returned to dormancy by Sonic the Hedgehog and Light Gaia, restoring his cycle. Dark Gia just awakening was able to completely drain the chaos emeralds of their power with each Gem containing infinite energy and power. Making Dark Gia High Universal or Universal by the tiering system. Super Sonic and Chip are able to beat him making them high uni to universal as well.
Game: Sonic and the black Knight:
Each Storybook game takes place in a parallel universe of that of the Sonic universe which would make the Arabian knights and king authors world a 4D universe as well since these universes are Parallel to that of the original universe and tie into the maginaryworld. Merlena was going to make the world of King Arthur Go on forever so that it would never end u can interpret that she was going to make the world infinite since che ctated che wnuld make the world andlace or eternal Makina Kina Arthur'e world or univerce an infinita
@@Legendary77896 Each Storybook game takes place in a parallel universe of that of the Sonic universe which would make the Arabian knights and king authors world a 4D universe as well since these universes are Parallel to that of the original universe and tie into the maginaryworld. Merlena was going to make the world of King Arthur Go on forever so that it would never end u can interpret that she was going to make the world infinite since she stated she would make the world endless or eternal. Making King Arthur's world or universe an infinite 4th dimensional universe. Sonic beats merlena making him with Excalibur a 4th dimensional character or making him multiversal.
Game Sonic and the secret rings:
Arabian Nights (7 5ET > +1 / [2], Arabian Naito?), is an object that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series. It is a storybook, containing a collection of several classic tales. Accordingly, all of these tales were told by a nobleman's daughter, Scheherazade, to the selfish King Shahryar, over the course of one thousand and one nights, hence the name. The stories include "Aladdin and the Magic Lamp", "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves", and "The Adventures of Sinbad". [2]. Again this a parallel universe to sonic multiverse which would make it 4D as well it's also consist since this world ties into the maginaryworld.
This world is also stated to be endless as well so u can say it would be an infinite 4D Universe since this universe also has infinite structures inside of it like the astral plane. It also should be noted that the night palace is a metaphysical realm that exists in another universe its erazer djinns own palace. Erazer Djinn with the world rings stated to be the creator multiple times and was going to recreate the entire world of the Arabian knights in his own image and warp the reality of it making him a 4 to 5D being because of him basically transcending the universe. Sonic with only 3 world rings is able to beat him with no diff u can say their own the same dimensionality it's just that Sonic is way stronger than he was. Making a Darkspine sonic anywhere from 4th to 5th dimensional being.
Game: Sonic Rush
Eggman with his Parallel universe counterpart intended to transcend dimensions or dimension via the Japanese kanji using the power of the soul and chaos emeralds and using the eggsalamander. Which would make them 5th dimensional with whatever statement I think the statement for beyond this dimension would just make it consistent for Sonic being 5th dimensional so let's say it's just 5D. Super Sonic and Buring Blaze destroyed both of them so u can say that they would both be 5D making Sonic consistently in these ranges or dimensionality.
Game Sonic 06:
Solaris (Y 51) 2, Sorarisu?) is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series. He is the sun god of Soleanna, as well as a super-dimensional lifeform and a god of time, who is worshiped by the people of Soleanna. A living flame, Solaris was split into two halves during the Solaris Project: Mephiles the Dark (his cunning mind) and Iblis (his raw power). Both of Solaris' fragments were subsequently sealed away inside of the Scepter of Darkness and the princess of Soleanna.
Ten years later, Mephiles and Iblis were freed and rejoined, recreating Solaris who sought to destroy time
@@Legendary77896 Solaris (Y 5') 2, Sorarisu?) is an antagonist that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog series. He is the sun god of Soleanna, as well as a super-dimensional lifeform and a god of time, who is worshiped by the people of Soleanna. A living flame, Solaris was split into two halves during the Solaris Project: Mephiles the Dark (his cunning mind) and Iblis (his raw power). Both of Solaris' fragments were subsequently sealed away inside of the Scepter of Darkness and the princess of Soleanna.
Ten years later, Mephiles and Iblis were freed and rejoined, recreating Solaris who sought to destroy time itself, but was defeated by Super Sonic, Super Shadow and Super Silver. Solaris was subsequently erased from existence, ensuring his wrath would never be unleashed on the world. Solaris is stated numerous times to be a super dimensional life for the Japanese kanji translates to him being a hyper dimensional life form which I think makes more sense in context but Solaris would be a 5th or 6th dimensional being because of the extra statements of him eating dimensions for lunch and also with the statements of him being beyond dimensions. Being a god of time, Solaris can freely manipulate and change the fabric of time itself; according to Dr. Eggman, Solaris is capable of devouring time and space on an incomprehensible scale, encompassing consuming entire dimensions and all existing timelines, and causing world-wide instabilities that create distorted time-space rifts filled with the remains of the planet. As said by both Eggman and Duke of Soleanna, power of Solaris allows to change history and Fate itself, in Duke's case - Fixing past mistakes and ressurecting his Wife.
As a transcendent life form, Solaris possesses a unique state of existence that lets him exist in the past, present and future simultaneously, making him omnipresent throughout time and virtually impossible to defeat unless he is attacked simultaneously in all eras.[6][7][8] He can also create time-space rifts which can either suck objects into oblivion or hurl meteors of condensed matter from other places at enemies which can injure even a Super State user.
Solaris also doesn't seem to be able to be defeated in a conventional way, as he can seemingly continuously ressurect himself from death, similarly to his Halves, and can possibly only be dealt with by erasing him from History. So Solaris would be anywhere from 5th to 6th dimensional I think he's consistent enough to be 6th dimensional sonic shadow and silver beating this said Solaris would make them 6d as well.
Game: Sonic forces:
Eggman with his new creation infinite is stated to be the strongest opponent or villain Sonic has fought thus far which would put him above every villain we just went through. Infinite is powered by the phantom ruby which is stated to be more powerful than the master emerald which would it consistent that he would be the strongest. Sonic able to beat this infinite in base on numerous occasions and stats himself he gets stronger every minute this wouldn't be hyperbole since we have seen Sonic and even stated that he cliffs his super from later as more time progress. Making a base sonic 6th dimensional I say that because every feat until now has been a transformation feat which doesn't go to Sonic's base at all but now since he's fighting stronger opponents in base we can say he is above his transformations that did feats prior. And even later in game eggamn with his death egg robot is stated to surpass infinite entirely and Sonic slams him too making it consistent that base sonic would be 6th dimensional in terms of existence. Now with the scaling that we have gathered we can say base sonic is 6th dimensional at the most consistent.
With super Sonic being unquantifiable amp to his base it's not stated what the multiplier is but we know that this form lets him fight higher dimensional beings than his base form. So we can say that Sonic in his base form is 6th dimensional with his super form being an add on that let him cross dimensional tiers from
Beerus is strongest
Whis victim
Beerus fanboy
Keep capping bro
@@Legendary77896 cool..
No.
Wey bills le gana fácilmente aunque tenga la forma super le gana
Scaling Sonic The Hedgehog:
Sonic Defeated perfect chaos Who is absorbed
the power of the chaos emeralds. The same
Chaos Emeralds which were stated to constantly
have infinite/unlimited power
Sonic Defeated Erazor Djinn Who destroyed/
consumed 1001 universes of The Arabian nights
which was stated to be World of endless
adventures. The Arabian nights has an infinite
space and an astral plane with metaphysical
properties.
Sonic also Defeated the time eater Who was
stated to be a primordial being and it can control
Time and space, it could erase Time and Space
with ease. The Time Eater is also able to erase
The Main Sonic Timeline. Solaris was going to destroy everything which
would include the Arabian nights and the
Maginaryworld.
The Arabian Knights Are stated to be Endless/
Infinite Realms that contain Dreams, Magic and
Adventure which gives them access to scaling
from Maginaryworld. In Other Words The Arabian
Knights are part of the Maginaryworld
Omniverse.
Maginaryworld: The main setting of Sonic Shuffle.
It is where llumina, the Forcejewels and the
Precioustone reside. It is a dream world created
from the dreams of people in other dimensions
through the power of the Precioustone, and
contains parts of everyone's dreams.
The Master Precioustone serves as the gateway
to this world, and serves as the nexus of this
world's reality. Maginaryworld is the source of the
dreams of all worlds.
Sonic defeated Infinite is stated to be Trillion
Times more stronger than all Sonic villains.
also the Phantom Ruby's has more strength than
the Master Emeralds! Phantom Ruby > Master
Emerald. Sonic Defeated Solaris Who is stated to be a
Super Dimensional Being. Solaris consumes dimensions which is only
possible if Solaris transcended
dimensionality. Solaris was stated to consume every existing
timeline, timelines in the sonic verse were stated
to be dimensions, universes and realities. Solaris was also stated to annihilate the concept
of time. Solaris also destroyed the concept of SpaceTime
due to the guides of Sonic 06 saying "space time
itself".
Solaris was stated to transform everything to
nothing. The Sonic verse has lmaginary, Real
Transcendent, Binary and Complex Numbers. Mathematicians, and Astrophysics Use Real,
Imaginary Complex Numbers, For Their Stream of
calculations it's required for such an career
Robotics usually tangle around with Imaginary
Numbers There's many fields of Studies to them
Also the Existence of Number Sequences support
such an order exist. Number Sequences are just
An order of Numbers that are related to Sets So
Binary Real, Imaginary Complex Numbers would
prove the verse to be High Outerversal as They
have Infinite sets.
Transfinite mathematics and Parallel Universes
also Exist in the Verse. Also:This Means The Phantom Ruby Infinite Has is
The Actual Phantom Ruby and the Prototypes
tave a Similar Power Scale which explains why
He wanted the Prototypes destroyed.
Sonic also defeated Eggmans death egg robot
which has surpassed infinite. Sonic defeated the end who stated that the
villains that sonic fought before were Mighty but
also finite compared to it.
Speed:
Capable of escaping Nullspace which is an
endless void of nothingness and a place where
Scientific Approaches aren't Possible. Spatio
Temporal Dimensions are a scientific approach. It
is also a dimension that surpasses
Dimensionality.
(BTW Eitaro Toyoda knows the Setting and world
Building of Sonic).
Sonic in Sonic CD transcended the concepts of
Space-Time.
Was able to outrun a black hole.
Was able to restore time and space.
So in conclusion:
Sonic is High Outerversal or Boundless or 4
infinite layers into Boundless with Irrelevant
Speed.
Super Sonic solos
Beerus Neg diff
Beerus fanboy
@@MoobsYT Kid FanBOY
@@SARUS-Polish_Dubbing_ABC NI**A FANBOY
Nothing
@@SARUS-Polish_Dubbing_ABCSo he’s a fanboy of yourself.
Hakai sonic, you'd die
Dumb ☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻
@@Unknown64770 ☹️
@@_vegitoblueSo you are saying that a character who can survive existence erasure with no single scares or scratches,can be erased by a HAKAI!😂, bruh.
@@Unknown64770Say sorry to @_alpha.sapphire
@@_vegitoblueNow I respect people's opinions about fictional match ups because their just fiction,but Sonic still can't be erased by Hakai.
Fax beerus Win
Whis victim
Classic sonic victim
Beerus fanboy
The cap on this vid
fr
Fac
Base game Sonic defeated Erazor Djinn in secret rings who destroyed and absorbed half of 1001 stories of the arabian nights (story= infinite sized universe) and took his blows + with classic restored time and space in generations by running.
I don't see cap only fax here
yeah bro sonic should solo at base low diff
aint no way sonic beats beerus💀
Base game Sonic defeated Erazor Djinn in secret rings who destroyed and absorbed half of 1001 stories of the arabian nights (story= infinite sized universe) and took his blows + with classic restored time and space in generations by running.
@@user-cn4ps4co8t Goku destroyed Kid Buu who was stated to be able to destroy the entire Universe 7 (96 different space-times) And one Ki Blast from SSGSS Goku was equal to the Spirit Bomb against Kid Buu. Sonic wouldn’t even be durable enough. Died to a black hole
@@fjohny2alt302 you just ignored how strong was Erazor Djinn
@@fjohny2alt302 Sonic fled the null space created by Infinite's black hole, what did he smell?
Believe it or not Sonic is the strongest
Sonic needs way more than super sonic to beat beerus
Base sonic is enough
Nah super sonic is enough
Nah beerus has hakai if u forgot he is stronger than majin buu the same guy who screams and can break realities
@@PyroZJ7 base sonic now u underestimate beerus I will say sonic archie can defeat beerus tho
@@tunsumemundela3020 u forgot base sonic restored time and space by simply running and base sonic can beat perfect chaos without the need of super form
biased sonic fanboy
This is fax
And aren't you a Beerus fanboy?
@@MoobsYT nope i just dont believe in bs
@@JDMSPOTCARSexplain how this is bs then
@@chexts31 this hedgehogs planet gets destroyed then he's dead
POV:Ur looking for angry dbz kid
👇👇👇
so to start off dr slump sees dragon quest as a video game that’s has P > F transcends over dragon quest is a verse that has realms that are outside the concept of time space and form making dr slump 1 layer into outversal dr slump has an infinite loop of P > F transcendences making dr slump beyond tiering fr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon balls characters beyond tiering with your existence alone I could go way into the cosmology but these alone could solo sonic and you know that means buddy boy a regular human form dragon ball could solo all forms of sonic neg diif and don’t try to hit me with but it’s NoT caNoN kid goku and arale have met before in anime and manga so sit down no feat of sonic could stop a regular human from sonic sit down boi
Beerus: I see who you are
Sonic: you are my enemy
Beerus: my enemy
Sonic: you are my enemy
Beerus: this ends NOW !!!
Sonic: EXACTLY
Y'all Sonic Meatriders 💀
Base game Sonic defeated Erazor Djinn in secret rings who destroyed and absorbed half of 1001 stories of the arabian nights (story= infinite sized universe) and took his blows + with classic restored time and space in generations by running.
@@user-cn4ps4co8t proved my point 💀
@@fjohny2alt302how
@@fjohny2alt302how he gave you evidence beerus is multiverseal sonic is hyperverseal in base and I have tons of evidence to prove it
@@user-yd2dj4lj1s why are you arguing with a guy who has one like on his comment
Sonic in hyper state cannot defeat Beerus
Hyper is overkill
No 😂😂
@@user-qk3fq2kx7t it is, Hyper is a op transformation it can do anything that ultra and super can do how can Hyper Sonic that uses TRANSFORMED chaos emeralds(Super Emeralds) that can already do anything without any limits and lose to beerus that with clashing with goku didn't even effect the universe at all while Classic Archie Super Sonic clashed with Knuckles and made a whole universe explode with no delay along with ripping the fabric of reality so how tf can hyper lose to beerus base could solo, Game or Archie
Goku faced characters who could manipulate anything, but in the end he defeated them, the worst of defeats, so what about Beerus, nothing is affected by him?
@@user-qk3fq2kx7t bro no he didn't💀💀 he did he would've lost
Sonic is going to die
No lol
Fr
Beerus is going to die*
Nah