It also shows how in depth he is when editing, he watches his own videos way more intently than I do, at least. I'm amazed he doesn't experience burnout between all the uploads, reviews, uploading and everything he does for patreons too on top of it
Once I heard PVDDR talking about how he tests new cards in fresh formats and he said he'd try to first push the synergies of the card to its limits, including all other cards that theoretically work with it in the deck and later keep a more powerful core as observed on matches and include interaction as the meta demands. I really enjoy seeing how LVD pushes synergies to its limits like PV said he did, especially in fresh formats like current standard, but also in others. LVD's decks are always laser focused, always having the capability of going off at some point, being able to steal games that look otherwise lost like that one vs uw control. Keep up with the great content man, you're highly appreciated.
It’s easy to push synergy when everything works together now with the algorithm and poor card quality - how many reprints are there now how much of standard is really just a reprint
The ability to ninjitsu the same attacker multiple times works well with nezumi prowler as its an enter the battlefield effect. You get the trigger for ninjistu so you can use it as a combat trick for a different blocked creature and then swap it out for a ninja that benifits from doing damage. Same goes for thousand face shadow as shown in match one
This looks so fun! That ninjutsu sequence at 14:10 was mind blowing! Complete overkill and total one sided wipe with no casualties?! Absolute nukin futs 😆
@@mcbescheiden725 That's Rogues, consistency is the goal of a good deck and you simply cannot reliably use ninjutsu and hold up counterspells in a tempo deck.
I have almost every card to be able to play this deck, except Biting Palm Ninja, so to swap out the 3-cost and retain some value, I am using Circuit Menders, so every time I use ninjutsu I am generating life and card draw. Also I only have one copy of Satoro Umezawa, so I have one Kaito Shizuki in there as my "Flavor Saver". I really appreciate your deckbuilding skills, as I have been out of the game since 2019. I am 95% done building your Samurai deck and, like I say, about 90% done building this one, and thanks to you I am coming out swinging as I get used to standard again. Thanks for your hard work!!
Thank you showing off the Satoru synergies. I had no idea you could use Ninjutsu more than once after blockers are declared. I tried Satoru in Historic Brawl and had some fun with that interaction.
Definitely interesting how the classic Ninjutsu designs required actually hitting the opponent so there'd be no point to Ninjutsu-chaining, but now it's beneficial with some cards. I wonder if they'll decide that was a mistake honestly.
One of the best ninja decks out there. I see a lot of other channels struggle with them, but using this deck I've been able to climb through plat fairly easily (minus the occasional pure control deck). Definitely a deck that you need to take your time and think things through on.
I built a similar deck during a draft, albeit way less powerful of course since I didn't have access to some of the best cards, and racked up 6 wins. I had 3 Silver-Fur Masters and a bunch of other ninjas with Ninjutsu, it was especially fun to "combo" the Covert Technician with Virus Beetle since I can attack with the beetle, pick it up to ninjutsu in the ninja which then allows me to play it again for free.
I'd really like to see your take on an historic version of this deck as you did in the past. It would be interesting to see what card you would change and why with the introduction of this new set. Anyway keep up the good work, love your videos !
At 10:24 the correct play likely would have been to bounce your biting palm ninja back to hand, nunjutsu it out with your attacker then make them discard wrenn and seven, do 5 damage and then play the disruptor again.
Cool new deck! Lots of triggers, choices and tricks. Not easy to pilot and way better than the dimir rogues in last standard was. Why did that mono white player still use snow lands in standard (in the second match)? There's no reason to play them after the haven ban. Mono green and Orzhov control still use snow for things like blizzard brawl and board wipes but for mono white, there's no reason for that.
The day will come when snow lands are no longer in standard and we'll ask ourselves, why didn't I play more snow lands when I had the chance! Was I really so afraid of the occasional Reidane? The day will come, and when it does, it will feel like it came sooner than we thought. Repent and pay homage before the end of Snow!
I was impressed by it as a source of card advantage, assuming you can keep enabling Ninjutsu. Might require more unblockable creatures like Stowaway to be consistent in matchups with lots of Flying and Reach creatures.
On 19:00 they could have a white legendary land to cast it for 2 mana, as it gets a discount from Thalia being on the board. You played into it without realising it, but it turned out to be a bluff. Opponent basically outsmarted themselves, if he tried to trick you into believing that's the case.
I'm not sure I've seen the decayed interaction played out in Arena - I would guess that in that case you don't need full control since the decayed will trigger before it actually happens causing a pause for responses? Whereas the lack-of-being-in-combat that stops Ninjutsu isn't an actual ability, requiring more control.
"Unblocked" creatures being different from "creatures that haven't been blocked" (yet) was a real oversight in game templating haha. In the old days they included "play only during combat after blockers have been declared" on those abilities but for some reason decided people would just figure it out themselves, hmmm :)
@@jerodast for real. I had one kid that was like, "I attack with this 2/2 into your 3/3 blocker, so before you block, my creature is unblocked so I ninjutsu in this 5/5 so you either take 5 or you chump." 😅
I love this so much Luca! Way better than the rogues/mill/ flash deck we all had to endure not so long ago lol. Would it muddle the strength of the deck if you made a Sultai deck to include the green ninja? Sultai is my fav colors so Imma end up trying to make it anyways, just wanted your opinion on it! :D
Hey Mister LVD, do you have a take on Suspicious Stoaway in Nunjitsu? I love the card, but it doesn’t seem to be good anywhere and maybe that’s the shell for it. Or is 2 mana for an evasive creature you bounce already too much?
I mention it at the end of the video. Had it in there originally and it seemed a little slow at enabling Ninjutsu, but in matchups where there's a lot of Reach or Flying it can make the difference.
ALL the fans of ninjas remember how powerful Walker of the Secret Ways was. Remember the ninja "dance?" A very good example was shown in Match 1. Love to see it Luca! xD
10:30 could you bounce Biting-Palm Ninja with Fading Hope, then use Ninjutsu of Biting-Palm Ninja in your hand to swap Network Disruptor that is targeted with Vanishing Verse, which in result would make Vanishing Verse lose target? Or in result Vanishing Verse would keep targeting creature, in that case Biting-Palm Ninja?
The opponent cast it before blockers were declared so we were unable to Ninjutsu. Otherwise I could’ve used Ninjutsu thanks to Umezawa. So no need for Fading Hope either way.
I do feel like Splinter has the colors he does only for set design requirements, not because it's a match to the character. Hard to see how Splinter is black, much to the chagrin of fans of the "what would all your favorite fictional characters' colors be?" game.
Im sorry Ive cheated on you since every streamer is on a rollercoaster of these new decks (Enchantments, Ninjas, Artifacts, etc); but I always come back to you BB cuz you my #1
First of all you dont need many creatures in play. Pretty much all you need is 1 flyer to activate ninjitsu to. My latest video shows 2 of my matches against blue/black removel and mono green ramp. Both of them got absolutely destroyed, the important part here might be my order of play. You'd think Silver-Fur Master may be a good starting hand card because he buffs your 1/1's. As you can see in the video I prefer to ninjitsu Prosperous Thief, replay the 1/1 flyer into ninjitsu Biting-Palm Ninja or Nashi. So you can cripple their hand in turn 3 or bring something into play without paying mana for it. If they dont kill your Biting-Palm Ninja, ninjitsu him and replay at turn 5 to cripple their hand even more. It's actually brutal.
This deck seemed weak. Thousand faced nija + silverfur master work well together, the disruptor is a good backup for the thousand faced ninja, but the rest of the deck didn't seem to do enough
Yea, I’ve found that if you click on the video from your watch history while you’re still watching it sometimes puts them back, no idea why it works but it does.
@@NStripleseven Could just be a matter of waiting long enough. I almost always catch videos a good chunk of hours after posting and I don't think I've seen the bug myself.
They added ninjutsu in here? What about genjutsu and taijutsu? There better be Naruto using nine-tail fox power and it's automatically game over for opponent after that.
I'm just so thrown off seeing the lists for standard decks again, they feel like they can't possibly be a full deck with everything just "oh yeah multiply this by 4"! Don't mind a bit of standard but I do prefer the variation of Brawl more.
Wow really? I feel the opposite about boringness. Mutate you just pile up and stuff happens without even attacking. Ninjutsu requires more interaction and because stuff is coming OFF the board while the Ninjas go on, it's not just a forever-increasing pile.
I love it when you point out your own playing mistakes in the editing - it's so instructive, and actually shows great humility.
It also shows how in depth he is when editing, he watches his own videos way more intently than I do, at least. I'm amazed he doesn't experience burnout between all the uploads, reviews, uploading and everything he does for patreons too on top of it
Agreed. LVD should make coaching vod reviews
Once I heard PVDDR talking about how he tests new cards in fresh formats and he said he'd try to first push the synergies of the card to its limits, including all other cards that theoretically work with it in the deck and later keep a more powerful core as observed on matches and include interaction as the meta demands. I really enjoy seeing how LVD pushes synergies to its limits like PV said he did, especially in fresh formats like current standard, but also in others. LVD's decks are always laser focused, always having the capability of going off at some point, being able to steal games that look otherwise lost like that one vs uw control.
Keep up with the great content man, you're highly appreciated.
That's indeed how I like to approach deck building.
@@LegenVD When you build decks do you start with more than 60 cards initially and then remove cards as you go to get it back down?
@@caizza3 More often than not, especially in formats like Brawl.
It’s easy to push synergy when everything works together now with the algorithm and poor card quality - how many reprints are there now how much of standard is really just a reprint
The final attack in the first game does look like a ninja movie scene!
Definitely a Naruto move with his Kagebunshin No Jutsu spam
The ability to ninjitsu the same attacker multiple times works well with nezumi prowler as its an enter the battlefield effect. You get the trigger for ninjistu so you can use it as a combat trick for a different blocked creature and then swap it out for a ninja that benifits from doing damage. Same goes for thousand face shadow as shown in match one
This looks so fun! That ninjutsu sequence at 14:10 was mind blowing! Complete overkill and total one sided wipe with no casualties?! Absolute nukin futs 😆
I find this version way way more synergistic and better than CGB's. Brilliantly played too!
LVD has mastered ninjutsu
LVD is a better player.
I don't like having no countersoells in my tempodeck
@@mcbescheiden725 That's Rogues, consistency is the goal of a good deck and you simply cannot reliably use ninjutsu and hold up counterspells in a tempo deck.
@@KevinOnEarth_ I feel like LVD is for chill adults lol
It’s so cool that you can chain ninjutsu and get so much value with Thousand-faced. Great deckbuilding as always!
As always, you build the most interesting versions of any deck! Solid gameplay!
Appreciate it!
I have almost every card to be able to play this deck, except Biting Palm Ninja, so to swap out the 3-cost and retain some value, I am using Circuit Menders, so every time I use ninjutsu I am generating life and card draw. Also I only have one copy of Satoro Umezawa, so I have one Kaito Shizuki in there as my "Flavor Saver". I really appreciate your deckbuilding skills, as I have been out of the game since 2019. I am 95% done building your Samurai deck and, like I say, about 90% done building this one, and thanks to you I am coming out swinging as I get used to standard again. Thanks for your hard work!!
Thank you showing off the Satoru synergies. I had no idea you could use Ninjutsu more than once after blockers are declared. I tried Satoru in Historic Brawl and had some fun with that interaction.
Definitely interesting how the classic Ninjutsu designs required actually hitting the opponent so there'd be no point to Ninjutsu-chaining, but now it's beneficial with some cards. I wonder if they'll decide that was a mistake honestly.
One of the best ninja decks out there. I see a lot of other channels struggle with them, but using this deck I've been able to climb through plat fairly easily (minus the occasional pure control deck). Definitely a deck that you need to take your time and think things through on.
Great to hear!
Just finished building a similar deck, I appreciate you explaining your thought process out loud.
Fell in love the first time I saw this deck played, copied yours and having a blast with it ever since. Your insight on plays is worth a ton!
I built a similar deck during a draft, albeit way less powerful of course since I didn't have access to some of the best cards, and racked up 6 wins. I had 3 Silver-Fur Masters and a bunch of other ninjas with Ninjutsu, it was especially fun to "combo" the Covert Technician with Virus Beetle since I can attack with the beetle, pick it up to ninjutsu in the ninja which then allows me to play it again for free.
NOICE, I like how u and CGB made ninja decks almost at same time, but both were quite different and in the end u got to pretty much same conclusions
I'd really like to see your take on an historic version of this deck as you did in the past. It would be interesting to see what card you would change and why with the introduction of this new set.
Anyway keep up the good work, love your videos !
This deck is hot, and I'm in love with the radical art style. Super fun
I understand the rogue synergy but in that Windrobber spot I've been playing Silver Raven and it's been great xD great stuff as usual!!
Can indeed have its advantages.
Loved the gameplay can't get enough, would love to see more ninjutsu decks and more thoughts on deck construction, cheers
I was literally JUST thinking about making a ninjutsu deck and then this popped up :)
What about Kaito Shizuki planeswalker? I'm new to MTG, but I noticed that blend well with this kind of deck
Fading hope was quite the name for that topdeck
At 10:24 the correct play likely would have been to bounce your biting palm ninja back to hand, nunjutsu it out with your attacker then make them discard wrenn and seven, do 5 damage and then play the disruptor again.
Certainly reasonable, although I like baiting them into attacking with Chariot and make them commit 5 mana.
can't wait to come back to this video in a few weeks when it will be the deck everyone hates in standard :p
Solid work as usual. Thanks man.
Cool new deck! Lots of triggers, choices and tricks. Not easy to pilot and way better than the dimir rogues in last standard was.
Why did that mono white player still use snow lands in standard (in the second match)? There's no reason to play them after the haven ban. Mono green and Orzhov control still use snow for things like blizzard brawl and board wipes but for mono white, there's no reason for that.
They might like the way they look, though they still might get occasionally screwed over by reidane in a mirror match
The day will come when snow lands are no longer in standard and we'll ask ourselves, why didn't I play more snow lands when I had the chance! Was I really so afraid of the occasional Reidane? The day will come, and when it does, it will feel like it came sooner than we thought. Repent and pay homage before the end of Snow!
That Splinter card is sick. Lord and less cost, OP.
The ninja planeswalker has been a great control/tempo historic brawl commander so far. Feels pretty dirty.
Phoenix chick is the best tool for a ninjutsu deck I've found.
Your Standard-videos are finaly back! Great!
Great deck! Nice to see the dedication to ninjutsu!
I would like to ask Your honest opinion on Satoru Umezawa in this deck?
I was impressed by it as a source of card advantage, assuming you can keep enabling Ninjutsu. Might require more unblockable creatures like Stowaway to be consistent in matchups with lots of Flying and Reach creatures.
He feels clunky to me.
On 19:00 they could have a white legendary land to cast it for 2 mana, as it gets a discount from Thalia being on the board. You played into it without realising it, but it turned out to be a bluff. Opponent basically outsmarted themselves, if he tried to trick you into believing that's the case.
Good one to keep in mind!
Nice! the long and awaited Ninja build, what is your opinion of Kaito for the deck? not good enough?
Briefly talk about it at the end of the video.
27:27 I would comment exactly that. It is the same combat phase that you can use to sacrifice the decayed tokens from Midnight Hunt
I'm not sure I've seen the decayed interaction played out in Arena - I would guess that in that case you don't need full control since the decayed will trigger before it actually happens causing a pause for responses? Whereas the lack-of-being-in-combat that stops Ninjutsu isn't an actual ability, requiring more control.
I had to explain to multiple players during prerelease that you cannot ninjutsu before blockers were declared 😅.
"Unblocked" creatures being different from "creatures that haven't been blocked" (yet) was a real oversight in game templating haha. In the old days they included "play only during combat after blockers have been declared" on those abilities but for some reason decided people would just figure it out themselves, hmmm :)
@@jerodast for real. I had one kid that was like, "I attack with this 2/2 into your 3/3 blocker, so before you block, my creature is unblocked so I ninjutsu in this 5/5 so you either take 5 or you chump." 😅
LVD being as awesome as always 🙌🏾
Thank you for the daily uploads!!!
Insane Deck!
Happy to see you back in Standart!!
I am like nr 420, the second most important like after 69. May you be blessed by the algorithm god
I love this so much Luca! Way better than the rogues/mill/ flash deck we all had to endure not so long ago lol. Would it muddle the strength of the deck if you made a Sultai deck to include the green ninja? Sultai is my fav colors so Imma end up trying to make it anyways, just wanted your opinion on it! :D
Would avoid an extra color.
Yeah I figured haha thanks for replying man. Love your work 😄
Ninja are OP, a free win against someone who can't get rid of Thousand face.
Man I don't have all the rares yet but I feel like the Ninja deck is just not doing enough.
Hey Mister LVD, do you have a take on Suspicious Stoaway in Nunjitsu? I love the card, but it doesn’t seem to be good anywhere and maybe that’s the shell for it. Or is 2 mana for an evasive creature you bounce already too much?
I mention it at the end of the video. Had it in there originally and it seemed a little slow at enabling Ninjutsu, but in matchups where there's a lot of Reach or Flying it can make the difference.
@@LegenVD that’s why you don’t comment at the deck explaining at the beginning and then forget 😅 sorry and thanks for replying nonetheless
Would you say Ninjas are better or Samurais are better. I'm trying to decide between the two.
In this set Ninjas got more good cards spanning more colors.
Woo this is gonna be exiting to watch!
Im trying to make the best possible historic ninjas deck..Can you make it instead lvd?!..p.s love your content
I didn't know you could chain ninjtsu like that, great
Never been useful before!
ALL the fans of ninjas remember how powerful Walker of the Secret Ways was. Remember the ninja "dance?" A very good example was shown in Match 1. Love to see it Luca! xD
hey! i don't understand why when you'r opponent attack you with his first strike creature 2/1 on you'r silver master 3/3 why you don't die?
3 toughness survives 2 damage, not sure I understand your question
@@LegenVD oh yeah true it's only first strike not double 🤦it's just because in the video it's look like he attack 2 time loll
10:30 could you bounce Biting-Palm Ninja with Fading Hope, then use Ninjutsu of Biting-Palm Ninja in your hand to swap Network Disruptor that is targeted with Vanishing Verse, which in result would make Vanishing Verse lose target? Or in result Vanishing Verse would keep targeting creature, in that case Biting-Palm Ninja?
asking in theory, of course you kept it to deal with Wrenn's token
The opponent cast it before blockers were declared so we were unable to Ninjutsu. Otherwise I could’ve used Ninjutsu thanks to Umezawa. So no need for Fading Hope either way.
If he did use Ninjutsu, yes it would've made VV lose target, since it puts a new "object" into play instead of just changing the old one.
I love how not only is there a ninja turtle in the set, but the uncommon ninja lord is essentially Master Splinter.
Yes, I also like when Magic is good because it references better things..
The ninja turtle is so good in limited
I do feel like Splinter has the colors he does only for set design requirements, not because it's a match to the character. Hard to see how Splinter is black, much to the chagrin of fans of the "what would all your favorite fictional characters' colors be?" game.
That was absolutely dope
i knew it .. i knew it that network distruptor kinda important
Why didn't the 2nd silver fur die in match2 after thalias 1st strike damage? 2/1 and a 3/1..combat damage.. shouldnt both die?
It's a 2/1 not a 3/1
@@LegenVD sorry i got confused between 1st strike and double strike😅...
What about the blue 2/1 Ninja that has ninjutsu for 1 and draws cards? Seems like an auto include here
It's an option like I mention at the end of the video.
30:12 Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
Im sorry Ive cheated on you since every streamer is on a rollercoaster of these new decks (Enchantments, Ninjas, Artifacts, etc); but I always come back to you BB cuz you my #1
do you think this deck can reach mythic?? 😊😃
Would kaito shizuki be a good card for this deck ?
You typically don’t want to pick up the token with Ninjutsu, but the card draw could be useful.
@@LegenVD thanks ! i'm trying to build a deck like this one including new cards
I need help with this deck I just keep getting all my creature cards removed. This deck is hard asf to play with.
Could try adding some counterspells or other protection, but it's annoying when that happens.
First of all you dont need many creatures in play. Pretty much all you need is 1 flyer to activate ninjitsu to. My latest video shows 2 of my matches against blue/black removel and mono green ramp. Both of them got absolutely destroyed, the important part here might be my order of play. You'd think Silver-Fur Master may be a good starting hand card because he buffs your 1/1's. As you can see in the video I prefer to ninjitsu Prosperous Thief, replay the 1/1 flyer into ninjitsu Biting-Palm Ninja or Nashi.
So you can cripple their hand in turn 3 or bring something into play without paying mana for it. If they dont kill your Biting-Palm Ninja, ninjitsu him and replay at turn 5 to cripple their hand even more. It's actually brutal.
@@VollKaracho209 I didnt see the videos you mentioned.
@@nuneza1987 Oh my bad, it's still uploading... maybe 5mins. I was uploading just for you ;)
@@nuneza1987 Something went wrong, I'm reuploading right now. probably takes ~15mins.
FYI I was struggling aswell the first days with this deck.
How do you do that thing where you separate the creatures from everything else?
There's a button you have to click on.
Type "T:creature" in the search bar with the horizontal deck viewer popped up.
@@Bladius_ thanks!
700 more til 100k!!!
òwhh i really hope the next one will be samurai!!!!!
This deck seemed weak. Thousand faced nija + silverfur master work well together, the disruptor is a good backup for the thousand faced ninja, but the rest of the deck didn't seem to do enough
No time stamps today :( but cool deck nonetheless!
It’s a youtube bug, they’ll pop up eventually. Try refeshing.
Yea, I’ve found that if you click on the video from your watch history while you’re still watching it sometimes puts them back, no idea why it works but it does.
@@NStripleseven Could just be a matter of waiting long enough. I almost always catch videos a good chunk of hours after posting and I don't think I've seen the bug myself.
Nice
They added ninjutsu in here? What about genjutsu and taijutsu? There better be Naruto using nine-tail fox power and it's automatically game over for opponent after that.
I miss brawl
I'm just so thrown off seeing the lists for standard decks again, they feel like they can't possibly be a full deck with everything just "oh yeah multiply this by 4"! Don't mind a bit of standard but I do prefer the variation of Brawl more.
nice.
I really think you play to passive on the first game
Unfortunately ChannelFireball doesn't send cards to Russia... =(
26:56 carvajal (your opponent)
New to magic arena. I thought ranked was best of three? I play standard best of one matches and it doesn't affect my rank
There's both ranked and non-ranked for both modes.
"Ninjutsu Ninjas"? I understand what they mean, but it sounds really weird since it implies that some ninjas doesn't use ninja arts.
Нихуя не понятно, но очень интересно.
this comment helps the channel
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Really bad deck
Thanks i hate it. You piloted the deck great! Its just power creep is the worst. If i wanted to play modern i go and play modern
This is nowhere near the power level of modern. Not even close to Eldraine standard level.
Power creep? Hahaha, that's way to early and exaggerated
The best standard was back in the original theros block that includes the return to ravnica block albeit thoughtseize was in every deck.
Actually 9th
This is probably one of the most boring sets, not gonna lie. Ninjutsu is a pretty boring mechanic, sadly. I prefered Mutate with Ikoria...
Wow really? I feel the opposite about boringness. Mutate you just pile up and stuff happens without even attacking. Ninjutsu requires more interaction and because stuff is coming OFF the board while the Ninjas go on, it's not just a forever-increasing pile.
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