I think raising parts of the ship are important. The ship is rotting away, quickly. If we can salvage pieces of it and preserve it for future generations, I see nothing wrong with it.
+Nate Kolesar aye.. so much damage is being caused to the ship because of searchers / artifact hunters. Watched Ballard's primer on it on RUclips. Very enlightening.
If it was 500 years or older, I'd agree with you. But all the footage of the site is all that's needed. These scumbags are just desecrating , and damaging, a mass gravesite for profit.
Amazing footage - who'd have thought in 1912 that one day, a piece of the hull would RISE from the waters of the north Atlantic. To see the glass intact in the porthole is astounding and ironic; The noise the Titanic must've made as the iron haul twisted and ripped apart must've been horrific for the ppl on the ship and in the nearby lifeboats. It probably sounded a lot like the World Trade Centre did when it came crashing down in 2001.
@@rachelm6744 Yes indeed. And I am sure the movie and etc do not even do the situation justice - it was probably more horrific than we could ever imagine.
Fun fact. This is the second time they recovered it. They tried it the first time in 1996 but a gigantic diesel filled balloon broke and the chain slipped. It went all the way back to the bottom of the ocean. Luckily they had a gps tracking device on it and were able to recover it in 1998. As seen in this video.
I'm not sure if I would consider the wreckage a grave site or not, considering the fact that there are no remains. I think we should do our best to get everything we can out of the water. It is slowly being eaten away. I think we should save it.
@Thomas Walters Well no one does. But considering how cold it is down there and if the body's are trapped in a area with water that has no access to sea creatures its very possible for there to be. At least bones.
@Thomas Walters the pressure from the water would actually help preserve bodies. Not everything in that ship collapsed and I guarentee there are blocked off areas.
I actually saw this on display, along with tons of other items brought up from the wreck. I remember being amazed that a clarinet had been retrieved in relatively decent condition, considering how long it had been underwater. I wondered if a band member had been playing it when the ship went down, or if it survived because it was in its case? The whole exhibit was so cool. It's one thing to read books and watch videos, but to actually see pieces of the wreck in person was amazing.
@@SonnyGTA There isn’t physically any living human down there. But the ship has become a watery grave, marking the tragic loss of so many people. Some bodies were never found again, and the ship down there leaves a marking for those unrecovered bodies. I think the best thing these people can do is leave things where they belong, in the depths of the sea.
I got to touch this piece just after it had been brought up and not secured and set up for viewing yet at the museum. I will never forget it or the lives lost.
It's amazing that the big piece still have a bit of the original colors on it. You can still see the white shape down the black shape of the hull, and I think I see the golden line on it too. It's beautiful.
This documentary hits so differently in the wake of the OceanGate tragedy. Sail onward, Mr. Paul-Henri Nargeolet. Thank you for your many contributions to Titanic research and preservation. You will not be forgotten.
I saw the Big Piece when I viewed the Titanic exhibit at the Luxor three years ago. It appears they restored it as well as they could and it just gives you an idea of how big the ship was. Titanic might be small compared to some of the floating cities they call cruise ships now, but it was still awe-inspiring.
I think we are actually honoring the victims of this tragedy by salvaging pieces and putting them on exhibition. It allows the memory of them to be respected and kept alive.
I would donate my wealth to this company that recovers pieces of the wreckage, I would like to see more of the wreckage in a museum, like windows, fragments of interiors of the ship, wood, glass,..
As long as they are in the right hands. It hurts me to see that many people would rather sell artifacts to pawn shops than donate them to public museums.
Absolutely, what are your thoughts on making a replica of the ship and completing the journey? Is it offensive? For me i cant think of anything more nice to those that perished than completing their journey.
@@STALINGRAD7 My opinion is that it would be a sign of respect to honor those that perished by completing the journey. I would just hope it would be done in a solemn and tasteful way.
@@donna6368 Some Australian billionaire named Clive Palmer announced to build the ship back in 2012. But it seems to me like its all talk. He first said it would be finished in 2016, then 2018 and then 2022. Sad. I really wanted to experience it.
I see a lot of comments calling this grave robbing, in my opinion, the way I see it is that, yes, the ship is a grave site, but I do believe it is important to recover some things from it before it's gone forever. I believe 3 big points should be taken into consideration before removing anything from the wreck. 1. Remove nothing that is attached to the bow or stern section of wreck. For moral purposes and structural integrity of the ship. 2. Do not take personal belongings. I disagree with taking personal belongings, especially things like shoes and clothing that may've been left from bodies. 3. Does what you're recovering have an educational benefit? I.E. Is this something people can learn from or that can be preserved for future generations? This piece of the ship was one that had already broken off and was laying on the ocean floor. It's a valuable, first-hand learning tool for generations to come to see just how the ship looked and was constructed.
Dr Robert Ballard (Man who found titanic in 1985) has always wished to create a underwater museum for Titanic. By this he means to create a constant live feed of images from the wreck for people to see around the world. If we could do something like that and try to slow down the degradation of the wreck, then everyone could experience it for themselves in a respectful manner as both museum and graveyard.
Several years ago, the Titanic exhibition came to the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago. I took my go family to see this once in a lifetime event and "touched" this actual piece of the Tiranic.
WAIT A MINUTE.... They let you touch it? OMG I AM SO GOING THERE SOMEDAY. Yay~ Is this recovered piece of the wreckage still on display at that museum in Chicago?? I hope... O_O
The difference between this and grave robbing is that usually things in a grave are put there by loved ones, but this junk wasn't. It's a crashed historical ship with lots of well preserved historical artifacts, none of which was placed there by loved ones in their memory. Naturally, leave the bodies alone and such and if something was placed there in their memory, leave that alone too out of respect. Or bring them up and give them proper burial. Whatever floats your boat (pardon the pun). When I think about other sunken ship sites or historical places, yeah, it should be preserved in a museum. It's a no brainer to me. There's no grave robbing if the artifacts weren't put there on purpose by loved ones. I'm sure they wouldn't care if some crap was taken from a ship. We do the same thing with battlefields and so on and so forth. That's because it's history.
the fish and other life down there ate the bodies, but the bones were left. but at those depths the ocean is calcium deficient, so basically the bones just 'melted'. so all the boots and shoes that you see in pictures is actually where the bodies orginally laid; depending on the current of the ocean.
I agree that the site should be respected and I think that is exactly what is being done by bringing up pieces of the ship and its magnificent fixtures like chandeliers and woodwork. That brings history to life and connects us to the past and the tragedy of this disaster. I think it is respecting those who died by keeping their memory alive. In a couple of decades the ship will be nothing but a heap of junk and the treasures inside will be lost forever. It is not grave robbing because all of those souls and their remains are long gone. A chandelier or carving is not part of a grave but a remnant the past from which we can learn and experience an era of time. Why should the experience of seeing these treasures be limited to the few wealthy who can actually go to the ocean floor? Easy for them to say no one else can see it. I knew two survivors (Mellingers) and while the mother never spoke of it, my impression was that the daughter would have been pleased if anything was salvaged. Another friend lost an uncle (Albert Ervine) and he wished it left alone so there is controversy even among survivors (none of whom are left) and the families of those lost. Items brought up should NEVER be sold for profit but preserved for new generations to see and learn about the hubris that brought about the tragedy and the courage of those who gave their lives for others. The story of Titanic was a morality tale. I do not see this as grave robbing ..IF and only if .....it is done with careful archaeological methodology and above all with the respect it deserves and definitely not for profit.
I saw this piece in a Titanic exhibit in Atlantic City, NJ. They had it in an above ground pool. They had to leave it submerged so it wouldn’t rust. Pretty awesome when you see it live.
Yall saying that the peice needs to be put back like bruh its a sunken ship and sorry but all the peoples bodies or bones are long gone the best we can do to is get the stuff out of the water so we can perserve what we have to respect all the people that were lost
Seeing only surface rust and not a rivet missing in the top secion of the piece of steel after being down there for 100 years and with an atmospheric pressire of 5,542 psi, i gotta say they sure made some good steel back then.
Some people are complaining that this is disrespectful. Though these pieces are being preserved by societies. Not sold to the highest buyer. If this is all about respect, then it's respectful to raise up some pieces to show future generations.
vanessa, the troll cannot construct a plausible argument without being forceful and being a bully. Therefore his opinions are completely unimportant to any civilized conversation on any subject. Ignore him. By the way, I am in favour of the Titanic being raised for historical reasons. There are no bodies on the wreck, and it has been over 100 years. But I can put my opinion to you without being forceful or threatening. That's the difference. We can respect each other's views even though we disagree.
i actually got to touch this piece in Boston during my school field trip. I will never forget the sea water dripping down onto my hand as they were keeping the piece wet to prevent rust from forming.
eva hart 1 of the survivors even said they should let titanic rest at the bottom of the ocean and she called it her fathers grave. however i do think they should raise pieces for museums just not the majority
I do believe some pieces would be a great memorabilia for future generations. How ever the ship should be left alone it died that night with its passengers. Some of the ships things like the plates and things that said white star are ok to bring up cause they won’t decay and it’s good to educate future generations
to the people crying about fucking with graves get over it. if I died in a ship wreak I wouldn't mind people learning from exploring. people decimated the pyramids and valley of the kings seriously get over it.
I remember seeing for the 1st time in 1999 when it came to Minnesota it was being worked on in a water tank and to see it again 19 years later in Las Vegas it's was like seeing an old friend.
Seeing this piece in person today at #Luxor in #Vegas was both mind blowing and very emotional. So glad they recovered and preserved it for the ages to come.
The Titanic should be left on the bottom, it is a graveyard and people are making money from those poor souls who lost their lives that fateful night, R.I.P. to all those poor people..........
I think if they could successfully raise the whole ship and recover every artifact and put it all together as a museum, it would be pretty cool. They could lay a foundation of some sort where the Titanic went down as a permanent memorial to the lives lost. I think preserving this is important. It's a huge part of history and a permanent memorial to those lost.
Shannon Prouty naw when I was a kid idk maybe 6 or 8 I had a dream one night that they lifted the titanic and I got to put it in my back yard ima Pursue that dream and get it in my back yard lol jk but that dream was wild like I remember this one part where I like fell though all the floors or some shit 😂😂
We have a better shot at building a pressurized tank around the ship and replacing she water with stuff that kills the bacteria. It’s still unlikely, but it’s a better shot than just yanking the ship up.
Reading all these comments have changed my mind.. I used to think that we should leave the ship there but now that I read more and more on it I believe we sho ukd preserve the ship. Especially try and bring the front half up because that us actually really intact.
i know how people see this as 'grave robbing ' or a remoririel peice but it such as she leaving it at the bottom of the ocean! i know we are far from ever being able to recover much of the ship but would be nice to see parts of it and restore whats recoverable
tigertigger5 yeah,I mean,it’s okay if we maybe pull up some of the artifacts from the ship.but I don’t think we should rise the whole thing.we need to leave it as a memorial to all the people who died on that horrible night.
Kinda pisses me off. If you take a look at it here in the Vegas exhibition, it seems like they restored this piece and made it look somewhat new. I think they should have just left it looking like it did when they first found it so it'd be more authentic.
+Humanlegacy333 Hello, super old comment, but whatever xD Ss the title says, it's a piece. That chunk was lying near the wreck, already torn off and bent, So it wasn't their fault.
This piece was really close to the break up point when the shipped snapped in half so it's likely because of that. And it has been weakening in the deep Atlantic ocean seafloor for 100+ years so its likely it won't be in perfect shape.
Tyger Voods if they recovered it in 1998 and he ship sunk in 1912 that’s not 100 plus years but I get what u tryna say but yea 70 years down there is still a long azz time
"the bends" is refering to a condition divers get when surfacing too quickly.. something to do with nitrogen build up in the blood I believe? I may be wrong but I think this was meant as a joke which references that condition.
Which is why, of course, they had a series of auctions of memorabilia. The sale of plates and cups etc adds nothing to our understanding of the tragedy but makes a very healthy profit for the finder. The wreck is being stripped for profit, not history.
It blows my mind three portholes still have their glass windows intact! Getting this massive, 20-ton piece of Titanic's hull out of the North Atlantic was a hell of a job. The first attempt in 1996 - watched by passengers of two specially chartered cruise ships (who paid $5k a pop, and were entertained by celebrity guests Burt Reynolds, Buzz Aldrin and Debbie Reynolds), was a disaster. As so many events surrounding this jinxed ship turn out to be. A crane almost hauled the huge hunk of metal out. But just 200ft from the surface, bad weather caused the ropes to snap, and it sank all two and a half miles back down to the bottom, embedding itself upright in the sea bed! Critics who had called the project 'grave robbing', no doubt felt this was karma. It was successfully retrieved two years later in 1998, and is now on display at the bad taste 'Titanic Exhibition', in Vegas. Visitors can also see artefacts from the ship including an unopened, 1900 bottle of champagne, and can experience a stroll along a reconstructed Titanic deck (complete with the same freezing temperatures and fake starry sky the 1,500 tragic victims experienced on April 15th 1912). And if you have $3,000 to spare, you can get married on a replica of the Titanic's famous centrepiece, the grand staircase - as heavily featured in the 1997 'Titanic' movie. Only in Vegas!
When they tried raising this piece of the titanic for the first time the straps broke they came back a couple of years later and were able to recover it you could probably raise the titanic piece by piece but not the whole front of the ship in one piece it would cave in my opinion since it's been on the bottom of the ocean for nearly a hundred years
Its pretty much impossible atm without it breaking apart completely but hopefully technology evolves fast enough to recover the whole ship before it dissolves into nothing almost
JustTheRegularRobloxPlayer its been 104 years. They died 104 years ago man. its time to move on and at least try to recover some parts of the ship. dont youthink the dead would at least want us to preserve their memory. in just a short amount of time this memory will be gone if we dont do something
I have no problem with them taking it its important for other generations to see and know about the titanic but DONT call it a chunk of metal it's more than that its apart of history that changed the way we make our vessels today plus she wasnt even made of metal the prime component in the making of the titanic was iron
I think they can try raising bow section, I know this is very deep, but this is thick steel, this is best way to preserve it for future generations, wreck is in good condition
It’s a piece of the starboard hull from C deck. It was part of first class cabins C79 and C81, which were vacant for the voyage. It must likely tore off the stern as it imploded on the way down.
You know, when companies think of raising the titanic, they think of raising it in an entirety; but would it be possible to raise the entire titanic piece by piece?🤔
Nathanael Lloyd no. The stern is absolutely destroyed. The bow which is everyone’s favorite diving place is the only part of the ship that even resembles what she once was. She also rests submerged in 90 feet of muck. I’m not sure they could even raise the bow without major damage.
Jason Flowers I know that it’s destroyed, but I’m saying raise only a piece at a time and reassemble whatever was left on the surface! Wouldn’t that be more possible than raising it entirely? I mean it’s gonna be gone in 20 years, so why not try to preserve whatever we can?
There wouldn't be any evidence in a couple decades but hopefully technology would be able to somehow recover the wreck to surface and be preserved way better rather than natural preservation. It would last longer by preserving it too
They might be able to in the near future before the ship disintegrates to dust. That day will be really important in history tho. A long ass 100+ year trip across the Atlantic. But even if they do, it would be preserved and displayed/stored in England or Ireland cause that's the original owners and the place it was built in.
Raising it is disrespectful to the dead. Some things are best left alone. Some people are too nosy and smart for their own good. Most of the people that act as if they care so much wasn’t ever near the Titanic because all the survivors are dead and their own families objects to raising this ship.
Has anyone tried raising the Titanic one by one and then in a few years when technology is at its max try and un-rust it then we could re build it? Edit: I mean it'd take like 30 years
I know that if we try to raise Titanic's bow it will probably just break because of rust. But why not to raise small parts step by step like that, and after recreate bow somehow on surface. That's pretty real idea.
@@ScarletAlly Some genius thought of affixing a GPS tracking device to the piece and it was miraculously found again, they succeeded in getting it out of the water, it's on display at museums now... WOW
I think they should take as much as possible, spread it around the world in museums ... Share the story of those who perished and went through this tragedy at sea... allowing it to be destroyed by the ocean is sad..
I think they should now after the Ocean gate Titan implosion.. I think they should just leave everything alone and no one should be allowed to go down there because honestly it’s a sacred burial place! That’s just my opinion 😢
Looking at the big piece off TITANIC SHIP I wonder the people who are working on it may raise all little big part of it as it can be seen to all whole world .
You think we are fool it is not real in this whole video did you see one thing that the part of the Titanic that you have shown is not rising up its in its position only. And I do feel that you have just put something and shown us that it's titanic.
I personally don’t agree raising it up and people be like “oH bUT I wAnT AnOthER GeNEraTions tO reMemBeR it” well lets face it the history section of education is dying no one cares for it as much so most people in the future will sadly forget titanic and we don’t need its wreck around to remember it and it’s disrespectful af just let it Rest In Peace sometimes i wish we never found it.
en voyant cette "big pièce" je suis fascinais je suis tombais sur un post où un homme touche la pièce dans un hôtel de luxe a las vegas...il dit je suis face a face avec le titanic j'ai ressentis une histoire tragique ,une histoire de joie,une histoire qui se transforme en légende...allez comprendre... mon reve serait de la toucher c'est incroyable cette pièce il a fallut 24 mois pour la restaurer et pour l'avant première des visites les tickets étaient a 5000 dollars il a fallut des sac comprends du diesel a plus de 25000 litres pour chacun, la chaine de la grue pesait (je ne sais plus mais je pense être pas loin...) 25 000 tonnes pour la soulever projet de ouf et il reste aussi de la vitre dans les hublots le gars du post que je vous disait il disait que c'était un paquebot assez costaud... impossible de retomber sur ce post ce qu'il dit est au début du documentaire si vous tombez dessus pensez a moi j'aimerai retomber sur ce post merci les passionnés du titanic de nous poster tout ça
I think raising parts of the ship are important. The ship is rotting away, quickly. If we can salvage pieces of it and preserve it for future generations, I see nothing wrong with it.
+David Aikman But surely we can't learn anything from salvaging the Titanic. She's not an old ship. Now the Mary Rose is something quite different.
+Nate Kolesar aye.. so much damage is being caused to the ship because of searchers / artifact hunters. Watched Ballard's primer on it on RUclips. Very enlightening.
If it was 500 years or older, I'd agree with you. But all the footage of the site is all that's needed. These scumbags are just desecrating , and damaging, a mass gravesite for profit.
people never thought they were on the Concord
but why not try the whole ship
Amazing footage - who'd have thought in 1912 that one day, a piece of the hull would RISE from the waters of the north Atlantic. To see the glass intact in the porthole is astounding and ironic; The noise the Titanic must've made as the iron haul twisted and ripped apart must've been horrific for the ppl on the ship and in the nearby lifeboats. It probably sounded a lot like the World Trade Centre did when it came crashing down in 2001.
Scary thought. Such a sad story.
@@rachelm6744 Yes indeed. And I am sure the movie and etc do not even do the situation justice - it was probably more horrific than we could ever imagine.
I think about that first glimmer of sunlight hitting it for the first time when it resurfaced after so many years!
I was on this expedition in 1998. I will never forget this time in life. meet some great people!!
Nice!
Robert Forsey what piece is this of or where would this have been on the ship?
I think it was port side, cabin.
From the 1998 Titanic expedition
this is the cabin where jack drew that picture of rose nude lol
lol
Fun fact. This is the second time they recovered it. They tried it the first time in 1996 but a gigantic diesel filled balloon broke and the chain slipped. It went all the way back to the bottom of the ocean. Luckily they had a gps tracking device on it and were able to recover it in 1998. As seen in this video.
poor thing, going all the way down to the bottom of the Atlantic twice!! LOL
Imagine if that piece had crashed the bow or stern and making it collapse lol
Yep, I do remember that it took two recoveries to finally get this large piece of the hull.
Ricardo lmfao
I was lucky enough to meet one of the men who helped bring this price up among others.
I'm not sure if I would consider the wreckage a grave site or not, considering the fact that there are no remains. I think we should do our best to get everything we can out of the water. It is slowly being eaten away. I think we should save it.
Not really you would be crushed to death by the pressure but your body would still retain shape and rest on the seabed till bacteria eats away
While there are most likely many bodies left and some completely intact in the hull of the ship. We will never be able to get to them.
Sunshine we shouldn’t it’s a grave sight it also wouldn’t last long either the second it lifted up it would crumble.
@Thomas Walters Well no one does. But considering how cold it is down there and if the body's are trapped in a area with water that has no access to sea creatures its very possible for there to be. At least bones.
@Thomas Walters the pressure from the water would actually help preserve bodies. Not everything in that ship collapsed and I guarentee there are blocked off areas.
1:56, still got the price tag.
That things over 100 years old now
HAHAHA very funny.....!
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@@trainspottinginworcester896 why are you angry?
@@nauriss34 idk is a kid commenting
I actually saw this on display, along with tons of other items brought up from the wreck. I remember being amazed that a clarinet had been retrieved in relatively decent condition, considering how long it had been underwater. I wondered if a band member had been playing it when the ship went down, or if it survived because it was in its case? The whole exhibit was so cool. It's one thing to read books and watch videos, but to actually see pieces of the wreck in person was amazing.
And it's to get cash from people like you who go to the exhibits why these Grave Robbers do what they do.
@@ROOKTABULA Or to preserve said items so they aren't a literal mush of sea dirt and rust in 20 years.
@@ROOKTABULA Grave Robbers!?! There is no one down there you dope.
@@SonnyGTA There isn’t physically any living human down there. But the ship has become a watery grave, marking the tragic loss of so many people. Some bodies were never found again, and the ship down there leaves a marking for those unrecovered bodies. I think the best thing these people can do is leave things where they belong, in the depths of the sea.
I got to touch this piece just after it had been brought up and not secured and set up for viewing yet at the museum. I will never forget it or the lives lost.
It's amazing that the big piece still have a bit of the original colors on it. You can still see the white shape down the black shape of the hull, and I think I see the golden line on it too. It's beautiful.
This documentary hits so differently in the wake of the OceanGate tragedy. Sail onward, Mr. Paul-Henri Nargeolet. Thank you for your many contributions to Titanic research and preservation. You will not be forgotten.
PH was a professional grave robber..now a permanent guest on the ship he made a career out of plundering
I saw the Big Piece when I viewed the Titanic exhibit at the Luxor three years ago. It appears they restored it as well as they could and it just gives you an idea of how big the ship was. Titanic might be small compared to some of the floating cities they call cruise ships now, but it was still awe-inspiring.
Ships nowadays are floating bricks and ugly asf. Titanic's design is art and probably one of the most beautiful ships ever made.
I think we are actually honoring the victims of this tragedy by salvaging pieces and putting them on exhibition. It allows the memory of them to be respected and kept alive.
I would donate my wealth to this company that recovers pieces of the wreckage, I would like to see more of the wreckage in a museum, like windows, fragments of interiors of the ship, wood, glass,..
As long as they are in the right hands. It hurts me to see that many people would rather sell artifacts to pawn shops than donate them to public museums.
Absolutely, what are your thoughts on making a replica of the ship and completing the journey? Is it offensive?
For me i cant think of anything more nice to those that perished than completing their journey.
@@STALINGRAD7 My opinion is that it would be a sign of respect to honor those that perished by completing the journey. I would just hope it would be done in a solemn and tasteful way.
@@donna6368 Some Australian billionaire named Clive Palmer announced to build the ship back in 2012. But it seems to me like its all talk. He first said it would be finished in 2016, then 2018 and then 2022. Sad. I really wanted to experience it.
I see a lot of comments calling this grave robbing, in my opinion, the way I see it is that, yes, the ship is a grave site, but I do believe it is important to recover some things from it before it's gone forever. I believe 3 big points should be taken into consideration before removing anything from the wreck.
1. Remove nothing that is attached to the bow or stern section of wreck. For moral purposes and structural integrity of the ship.
2. Do not take personal belongings. I disagree with taking personal belongings, especially things like shoes and clothing that may've been left from bodies.
3. Does what you're recovering have an educational benefit? I.E. Is this something people can learn from or that can be preserved for future generations?
This piece of the ship was one that had already broken off and was laying on the ocean floor. It's a valuable, first-hand learning tool for generations to come to see just how the ship looked and was constructed.
Dr Robert Ballard (Man who found titanic in 1985) has always wished to create a underwater museum for Titanic. By this he means to create a constant live feed of images from the wreck for people to see around the world. If we could do something like that and try to slow down the degradation of the wreck, then everyone could experience it for themselves in a respectful manner as both museum and graveyard.
That piece there is probably valued over 1,000,000. Considering it was 2 miles down and you need special equipment to retrieve it.
Several years ago, the Titanic exhibition came to the Museum of Science & Industry in Chicago. I took my go family to see this once in a lifetime event and "touched" this actual piece of the Tiranic.
I touched it when it was in Las Vegas. I've been telling people I was on the Titanic ever since.
WAIT A MINUTE....
They let you touch it? OMG I AM SO GOING THERE SOMEDAY. Yay~
Is this recovered piece of the wreckage still on display at that museum in Chicago?? I hope... O_O
@@danieldoo1821 it's in Las Vegas at the Luxor.
Coming out into the sunlight after 1912. Who would have thought this would happen when the ship sank. Just amazing.
The difference between this and grave robbing is that usually things in a grave are put there by loved ones, but this junk wasn't. It's a crashed historical ship with lots of well preserved historical artifacts, none of which was placed there by loved ones in their memory. Naturally, leave the bodies alone and such and if something was placed there in their memory, leave that alone too out of respect. Or bring them up and give them proper burial. Whatever floats your boat (pardon the pun). When I think about other sunken ship sites or historical places, yeah, it should be preserved in a museum. It's a no brainer to me. There's no grave robbing if the artifacts weren't put there on purpose by loved ones. I'm sure they wouldn't care if some crap was taken from a ship. We do the same thing with battlefields and so on and so forth. That's because it's history.
canadian bacon THIS is SO famous ship EVER and you are say that this is grave robbing!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's been 104 years, not bodies left.
Well the artefacts raised from titanic wreck is called grave robbing
There are NO REMAINS of corpses. Sea water and marine creatures ate them long ago.
the fish and other life down there ate the bodies, but the bones were left. but at those depths the ocean is calcium deficient, so basically the bones just 'melted'. so all the boots and shoes that you see in pictures is actually where the bodies orginally laid; depending on the current of the ocean.
It's one thing to read about or watch James Cameron's movie, but to actually see the titanic in real life is a whole other ballpark
i think that we must rise more artefact because more people can see this mighty ship in real
The ship is too damaged to lift back up now, but i think there will be many pieces of it being raised soon hopefully.
@@streamlin Think one of the props would be too big?
The hull pieces would be best
I agree that the site should be respected and I think that is exactly what is being done by bringing up pieces of the ship and its magnificent fixtures like chandeliers and woodwork. That brings history to life and connects us to the past and the tragedy of this disaster. I think it is respecting those who died by keeping their memory alive. In a couple of decades the ship will be nothing but a heap of junk and the treasures inside will be lost forever. It is not grave robbing because all of those souls and their remains are long gone. A chandelier or carving is not part of a grave but a remnant the past from which we can learn and experience an era of time. Why should the experience of seeing these treasures be limited to the few wealthy who can actually go to the ocean floor? Easy for them to say no one else can see it.
I knew two survivors (Mellingers) and while the mother never spoke of it, my impression was that the daughter would have been pleased if anything was salvaged. Another friend lost an uncle (Albert Ervine) and he wished it left alone so there is controversy even among survivors (none of whom are left) and the families of those lost. Items brought up should NEVER be sold for profit but preserved for new generations to see and learn about the hubris that brought about the tragedy and the courage of those who gave their lives for others. The story of Titanic was a morality tale. I do not see this as grave robbing ..IF and only if .....it is done with careful archaeological methodology and above all with the respect it deserves and definitely not for profit.
Susie Q you knew 2 survivors? How old are you...?
Julia - I'm 69. I was a kid when I knew them.
Can u not write an essay
@@briannesmith4918 - I sure can. If I do, you have my permission either to read it or ignore it. :)
I say bring as much of it up as we can and place a memorial in its place to honor the lost.
I got to see the piece in person, it's amazing
It's smaller than you would think, but incredible none the less
May be the only intact piece of the ship itself in 20 years, and we have people complaining about it like they want nothing to remain.
I saw this piece in a Titanic exhibit in Atlantic City, NJ. They had it in an above ground pool. They had to leave it submerged so it wouldn’t rust. Pretty awesome when you see it live.
Yall saying that the peice needs to be put back like bruh its a sunken ship and sorry but all the peoples bodies or bones are long gone the best we can do to is get the stuff out of the water so we can perserve what we have to respect all the people that were lost
The piece:👁👄👁 sUnLiGhT!!!!!!!
Seeing only surface rust and not a rivet missing in the top secion of the piece of steel after being down there for 100 years and with an atmospheric pressire of 5,542 psi, i gotta say they sure made some good steel back then.
Some people are complaining that this is disrespectful. Though these pieces are being preserved by societies. Not sold to the highest buyer. If this is all about respect, then it's respectful to raise up some pieces to show future generations.
People who scream "put it back" need a backhand.
vanessa, the troll cannot construct a plausible argument without being forceful and being a bully. Therefore his opinions are completely unimportant to any civilized conversation on any subject. Ignore him. By the way, I am in favour of the Titanic being raised for historical reasons. There are no bodies on the wreck, and it has been over 100 years. But I can put my opinion to you without being forceful or threatening. That's the difference. We can respect each other's views even though we disagree.
LordHeath1972 I agree with you man I only to people, calm down. When they don't understand that is the ship they are messing with.
LordHeath1972 okay forgive me about the last comment.
vanessa gonzalez lol
its not a grave
no loved ones did throw something there
so its not a grave
its a sunken ship
vanessa gonzalez "man i only to people calm down"
what?
It’s gonna B 1 hell of a sad day when she disappears but her memory won’t!
i actually got to touch this piece in Boston during my school field trip. I will never forget the sea water dripping down onto my hand as they were keeping the piece wet to prevent rust from forming.
..What year it was?
eva hart 1 of the survivors even said they should let titanic rest at the bottom of the ocean and she called it her fathers grave. however i do think they should raise pieces for museums just not the majority
I do believe some pieces would be a great memorabilia for future generations. How ever the ship should be left alone it died that night with its passengers. Some of the ships things like the plates and things that said white star are ok to bring up cause they won’t decay and it’s good to educate future generations
to the people crying about fucking with graves get over it. if I died in a ship wreak I wouldn't mind people learning from exploring. people decimated the pyramids and valley of the kings seriously get over it.
danny flint to be fair, nothing is learned from bringing up pieces to stick in a museum.
I remember seeing for the 1st time in 1999 when it came to Minnesota it was being worked on in a water tank and to see it again 19 years later in Las Vegas it's was like seeing an old friend.
I saw this today at the Las Vegas exhibition. It was surreal.
I believe saw this piece at the science museum of Minnesota a few years back. It was very haunting.
I see it as memories so that there never forgotten.
Not showing the entire video of it being lifted out of the water ???????
Seeing this piece in person today at #Luxor in #Vegas was both mind blowing and very emotional. So glad they recovered and preserved it for the ages to come.
The Titanic should be left on the bottom, it is a graveyard and people are making money from those poor souls who lost their lives that fateful night, R.I.P. to all those poor people..........
I think if they could successfully raise the whole ship and recover every artifact and put it all together as a museum, it would be pretty cool. They could lay a foundation of some sort where the Titanic went down as a permanent memorial to the lives lost. I think preserving this is important. It's a huge part of history and a permanent memorial to those lost.
Shannon Prouty naw when I was a kid idk maybe 6 or 8 I had a dream one night that they lifted the titanic and I got to put it in my back yard ima Pursue that dream and get it in my back yard lol jk but that dream was wild like I remember this one part where I like fell though all the floors or some shit 😂😂
@@hystarpro2470 😅
We have a better shot at building a pressurized tank around the ship and replacing she water with stuff that kills the bacteria. It’s still unlikely, but it’s a better shot than just yanking the ship up.
@@harrisonkarn2078 true. I just think it's a lost cause now. Each year more damage occurs to the ship.
Reading all these comments have changed my mind.. I used to think that we should leave the ship there but now that I read more and more on it I believe we sho ukd preserve the ship. Especially try and bring the front half up because that us actually really intact.
Wow theres port holes in it and all! Neat!
Raise the titanic but downscaled
i know how people see this as 'grave robbing ' or a remoririel peice but it such as she leaving it at the bottom of the ocean! i know we are far from ever being able to recover much of the ship but would be nice to see parts of it and restore whats recoverable
tigertigger5 hey babe ;)
tigertigger5 how's it going buttercup
tigertigger5 yeah,I mean,it’s okay if we maybe pull up some of the artifacts from the ship.but I don’t think we should rise the whole thing.we need to leave it as a memorial to all the people who died on that horrible night.
Praveen and Andrew. Why don’t you shut up.
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I got to see it at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago and one of the pistons and a whole bunch of stuff they pulled up. It was fascinating.
Kinda pisses me off. If you take a look at it here in the Vegas exhibition, it seems like they restored this piece and made it look somewhat new. I think they should have just left it looking like it did when they first found it so it'd be more authentic.
Great, you moved it too fast and now the piece has the bends!
+Humanlegacy333 Hello, super old comment, but whatever xD
Ss the title says, it's a piece. That chunk was lying near the wreck, already torn off and bent, So it wasn't their fault.
This piece was really close to the break up point when the shipped snapped in half so it's likely because of that. And it has been weakening in the deep Atlantic ocean seafloor for 100+ years so its likely it won't be in perfect shape.
Tyger Voods if they recovered it in 1998 and he ship sunk in 1912 that’s not 100 plus years but I get what u tryna say but yea 70 years down there is still a long azz time
"the bends" is refering to a condition divers get when surfacing too quickly.. something to do with nitrogen build up in the blood I believe? I may be wrong but I think this was meant as a joke which references that condition.
@@hystarpro2470 1912 + 70 = 1982
I think what you are trying to say is 86 years
The piece if it had life: is that the light of the sun?
Bro!! Thats a part of the superstructure. Is that from the stern or bow ?? Based off of how bent up it is, im assuming it's from the stern
We dig up items of all kinds from all ages from places that were graves or towns and put them in museums, this is no different.
Which is why, of course, they had a series of auctions of memorabilia. The sale of plates and cups etc adds nothing to our understanding of the tragedy but makes a very healthy profit for the finder. The wreck is being stripped for profit, not history.
That's capitalism for you!!!
It blows my mind three portholes still have their glass windows intact! Getting this massive, 20-ton piece of Titanic's hull out of the North Atlantic was a hell of a job.
The first attempt in 1996 - watched by passengers of two specially chartered cruise ships (who paid $5k a pop, and were entertained by celebrity guests Burt Reynolds, Buzz Aldrin and Debbie Reynolds), was a disaster. As so many events surrounding this jinxed ship turn out to be.
A crane almost hauled the huge hunk of metal out. But just 200ft from the surface, bad weather caused the ropes to snap, and it sank all two and a half miles back down to the bottom, embedding itself upright in the sea bed! Critics who had called the project 'grave robbing', no doubt felt this was karma.
It was successfully retrieved two years later in 1998, and is now on display at the bad taste 'Titanic Exhibition', in Vegas. Visitors can also see artefacts from the ship including an unopened, 1900 bottle of champagne, and can experience a stroll along a reconstructed Titanic deck (complete with the same freezing temperatures and fake starry sky the 1,500 tragic victims experienced on April 15th 1912).
And if you have $3,000 to spare, you can get married on a replica of the Titanic's famous centrepiece, the grand staircase - as heavily featured in the 1997 'Titanic' movie. Only in Vegas!
Just scary thinking about these pieces and how they held people from 100 years ago
@The Victorian Twins sick
Hold on let me break this record by lifting away the superstructure and living in it.
How was the cables affixed in order to raise this piece? Technical divers? Robotics? Are there plans to raise the entire Titanic in the future?
Definitely no technical divers, the pressure would kill them immediately.
See we could raise the titanic we just have to keep pulling chunks off of it until there are no chunks left to take xD
how much did that piece of the hull weigh?
Derek Wall 20 tons
I actually touched this with my hand. It was t the Luxor Las Vegas exhibit and there was a bunch of real items featuring this huge slab
What part of titanic is that??
*is it the double bottom??*
I've always wondered how this was done. Interesting to see this!
If a piece of this size can be recovered, then couldn't they just repeat the process over and over again until the majority of the ship is raised?
wow an over 100-year-old piece taken up from the water this is so cool
Damn your funny as fuck.
When they tried raising this piece of the titanic for the first time the straps broke they came back a couple of years later and were able to recover it you could probably raise the titanic piece by piece but not the whole front of the ship in one piece it would cave in my opinion since it's been on the bottom of the ocean for nearly a hundred years
the ship wreck is 105 years old
I think raising parts are important.. raise all the part if some one can...
Its pretty much impossible atm without it breaking apart completely but hopefully technology evolves fast enough to recover the whole ship before it dissolves into nothing almost
Even if they could raise the roof of the ship which they can't it will only fall apart.
Grave robbing? It's a chunk of metal chill lol
GoldenPixel It didnt hurt anything
JustTheRegularRobloxPlayer its been 104 years. They died 104 years ago man. its time to move on and at least try to recover some parts of the ship. dont youthink the dead would at least want us to preserve their memory. in just a short amount of time this memory will be gone if we dont do something
+Adrian Neils actually, the White Star Line owned the ship. So I wouldn't exactly call that trespassing.
Constipated Cat The Norwegians make Knifes from the Metall of the German battleships Tirpitz...
I have no problem with them taking it its important for other generations to see and know about the titanic but DONT call it a chunk of metal it's more than that its apart of history that changed the way we make our vessels today plus she wasnt even made of metal the prime component in the making of the titanic was iron
I think they can try raising bow section, I know this is very deep, but this is thick steel, this is best way to preserve it for future generations, wreck is in good condition
which part of the ship it is
Probably a part of the hull
It’s a piece of the starboard hull from C deck. It was part of first class cabins C79 and C81, which were vacant for the voyage. It must likely tore off the stern as it imploded on the way down.
I would love to see this piece with my own eyes !
Its in the Titanic museum in Las Vegas
I saw it with my neighbors eyes. They were donated.
Cool i have seen this peice at las vegas
Can we see a new titanic in future??
Since divers can't go that deep, how do they get ropes and cables around it?
The submersible can do it by remote control.
Does anybody know where this peace went? Like land wise. It be cool to see in person.
It’s on display in Vegas.
You know, when companies think of raising the titanic, they think of raising it in an entirety; but would it be possible to raise the entire titanic piece by piece?🤔
Nathanael Lloyd no. The stern is absolutely destroyed. The bow which is everyone’s favorite diving place is the only part of the ship that even resembles what she once was.
She also rests submerged in 90 feet of muck. I’m not sure they could even raise the bow without major damage.
Jason Flowers I know that it’s destroyed, but I’m saying raise only a piece at a time and reassemble whatever was left on the surface! Wouldn’t that be more possible than raising it entirely? I mean it’s gonna be gone in 20 years, so why not try to preserve whatever we can?
Nathanael Lloyd right
Well since it sank the first time
Technically the titanic is the only ship to since twice and it have over 70 years between the sinkings
Pieces from 1912, April 14/15
i get why people are saying to "leave the grave alone" but to me it's more like, leave historical evidence the way it was
There will be no evidence left in the next 50 years.
There wouldn't be any evidence in a couple decades but hopefully technology would be able to somehow recover the wreck to surface and be preserved way better rather than natural preservation. It would last longer by preserving it too
You must've been pissed when they cleaned up the WTC mess, huh? You know, since it's historical and whatnot...
Sounds like to me that you needed a talking too and then a backhand.
It's a tomb for many leave the ship and at rest.
One day they could use that peace to remake the titanic
Real or fake?
I say recovering bits and pieces is progress. My dream was they raise the ship bits and pieces to complete it's final trip to NYC
They might be able to in the near future before the ship disintegrates to dust. That day will be really important in history tho. A long ass 100+ year trip across the Atlantic. But even if they do, it would be preserved and displayed/stored in England or Ireland cause that's the original owners and the place it was built in.
Raising it is disrespectful to the dead. Some things are best left alone. Some people are too nosy and smart for their own good. Most of the people that act as if they care so much wasn’t ever near the Titanic because all the survivors are dead and their own families objects to raising this ship.
It's time to bring the whole thing up now
Has anyone tried raising the Titanic one by one and then in a few years when technology is at its max try and un-rust it then we could re build it?
Edit: I mean it'd take like 30 years
I know that if we try to raise Titanic's bow it will probably just break because of rust. But why not to raise small parts step by step like that, and after recreate bow somehow on surface. That's pretty real idea.
i got to touch that when they had it displayed in chicago
when was This Piece of Titanic Raised to the Surface. ?
1998, they tried in 1996, but the strip broke and it went all the way back.
@@ScarletAlly
Some genius thought of affixing a GPS tracking device to the piece and it was miraculously found again, they succeeded in getting it out of the water, it's on display at museums now... WOW
Props to that man then
They should've used giant airbags to make it lighter
They should raise all the pieces and rebuilt it and have Santa Claus be Captain.
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I WANT TO ELECT YOU FOR PRESIDENT
Santa!!!!
santa be fake man
Lopsided Life it's fucking sarcasm
As big of a piece this is, it is just a fraction of the size of the rest of the Titanic
I think they should take as much as possible, spread it around the world in museums ... Share the story of those who perished and went through this tragedy at sea... allowing it to be destroyed by the ocean is sad..
I think they should now after the Ocean gate Titan implosion.. I think they should just leave everything alone and no one should be allowed to go down there because honestly it’s a sacred burial place! That’s just my opinion 😢
Looking at the big piece off TITANIC SHIP I wonder the people who are working on it may raise all little big part of it as it can be seen to all whole world .
surprising that the rust didnt fall?
You think we are fool it is not real in this whole video did you see one thing that the part of the Titanic that you have shown is not rising up its in its position only. And I do feel that you have just put something and shown us that it's titanic.
You can still see the yellow and white stripe
Me be like SLOWLEY RAISE THE SHIP PEICE BY PIECE DAMMIT
I would be freaking out that that piece might get dropped. Why didn't they act more quickly to get it up onto the ship?
I personally don’t agree raising it up and people be like “oH bUT I wAnT AnOthER GeNEraTions tO reMemBeR it” well lets face it the history section of education is dying no one cares for it as much so most people in the future will sadly forget titanic and we don’t need its wreck around to remember it and it’s disrespectful af just let it Rest In Peace sometimes i wish we never found it.
en voyant cette "big pièce" je suis fascinais je suis tombais sur un post où un homme touche la pièce dans un hôtel de luxe
a las vegas...il dit je suis face a face avec le titanic j'ai ressentis une histoire tragique ,une histoire de joie,une histoire qui se transforme en légende...allez comprendre...
mon reve serait de la toucher
c'est incroyable cette pièce il a fallut 24 mois pour la restaurer et pour l'avant première des visites les tickets étaient a 5000 dollars il a fallut des sac comprends du diesel a plus de 25000 litres pour chacun, la chaine de la grue pesait (je ne sais plus mais je pense être pas loin...) 25 000 tonnes pour la soulever projet de ouf et il reste aussi de la vitre dans les hublots
le gars du post que je vous disait il disait que c'était un paquebot assez costaud...
impossible de retomber sur ce post ce qu'il dit est au début du documentaire si vous tombez dessus pensez a moi j'aimerai retomber sur ce post
merci les passionnés du titanic de nous poster tout ça