To me achievements are interesting for challenging you to play a game in different ways or explore things you otherwise wouldn't. For Kosmic, these are just a morning routine.
Achievements also add some replayability to games. I like to 100% hardcore games just because I love the feeling of getting better in something difficult
This was incredible to watch, best collab ever. Grats for Leaderboard subset and first ever mastery, and thanks so much to suspect15 for all your hard work!
I was expecting speedrunners to come into this for ages and wondering why we didn't have any. It's literally what I thought day 1 would be with Kosmic topping the leader boards.
And thanks to framerules, tying the TAS is much more lenient than in most other games. Still hard, though. (Unless he simply matched it before the frame rule: But Kosmic is crazy good.)
congrats, this was awesome to watch. retroachievements seems pretty cool as well! Would love to see you tackle some other achievements for SMB or even other games on there.
These achievement challenges are intense, congratulations getting all the smb records. Your contemplative conversations are always appreciated with speed running 🧠👏
I remember playing Smash at my friend's TV that has more input delay than my monitor and I hated every second of it. Props for doing it in spite of the delay.
OMG the thing he starts talking about around the 6 minutee mark. THANK you. I've been telling people this for years and everyone looks at me like I'm crazy or tries to argue with me.
I used to have a 240hz gsync monitor, and on one emulator (maybe it was in retroarch) I was able to set it to use gsync and it felt like I was on a CRT. It was really good. I wish I could remember what it was.
Man, I've watched so many of your videos, and you make SMB1 look so easy. It's given me a false confidence - I've booted up a rom thinking I'd beat it in one go only to get destroyed in World 8. 8-1 has definitely been giving me a lot of trouble. That said, I think my controller has some input lag, so I'm going to swap it for another tonight and see how it goes!
@@Kosmicd12 Controller was responsive - no more "I swear I pressed A" when falling into a pit - it's all on me now. Haha. Getting good at 8-1, but now 8-3 is giving me trouble; again, you make hammer bros look like a non-issue...! Congrats on your engagement by the way! I was partly inspired when you challenged your fiancée to beat the game for the first time. I realized I've beaten just about every Mario game (including Super Mario Deluxe, which had level saves (vs. world) and tighter physics...), but never SMB1 proper. Onward!!
It's always really enjoyable to watch these videos. Great skill, great player, and great human behind the pad. It's refreshing to hear someone confident about their abilities without being overly bragging, or overreacting. Love the little conversations in the middle with the chat, you seem like a cool dude to hang out with :) I wish you the best for future runs!
Awsome project! Amazing Amazing Games SMB and 2J/Lost Levels. I bought a NES retail in the mid 90's @ 12 years old with my own Money. And discovered the small fire glitch and basic block clips entirly on My own😊 Even occasionally played upside down laying flat on the floor. As a young teen! Love you bud.
omg you talking about using arrow keys to more mario reminds me of when I played Sonic 3 & Knuckles on PC like 20 years ago and had the same issue. it was SO hard trying to play with the movement and jump controls on opposite sides.
Around 8:00 I know what you mean. I'm a chess player and these days I mostly play on a 2D board online but when I occasionally play on a real board it's suddenly so hard to calculate and play well because it's 3D although it's exactly the same game
Ehh, I don't know. Sure, you can pick up stuff faster, but... we all had to learn how to walk, how to talk, barring tragic circumstances preventing us. Skill is almost always down to having adjusted your muscle memory to best deal with something, to best assess a situation and adjusting your approach. Kosmic does not have superhuman reflexes or dexterity: He has just mastered his intuition on the physics, the controls and the route. And when he swapped to, say, SMB 3, he was able to use this base to rapidly improve. Same for all the ROM hacks. And that's what he means: We all have core skillsets that we trained, in part unknowingly, which makes us seem talented at things, but it really boils down to us subconsciously recognizing a similar thing and using that key for a different lock, so to speak.
This is awesome. I'm not sure how this system works exactly, but if it's just watching RAM values, you could make achievements for all sorts of stuff, like walljumps, getting all the coins or all the 1UP mushrooms, small fire, FPG, two 1UPs with one shell, high scores, etc.
8:26 Maybe because I've trained myself to do so, but I've never had issues using my right hand with the arrow keys to play on a computer. I never use the WASD key for directional input unless the game involves the mouse (like Minecraft, Terraria or any FPS. Maybe it's just a skill you can pick up.
it's all muscle memory, same way you can also learn to touch type, or train to become a stenographer, even for things like drawing or even writing when you're a kid. Muscle memory is key and that's why practice is so important. Once you have msucle memory, you spend less time actively worrying about it, and thus can improve on other things that you couldn't before. Same reason you can get rusty from things if you haven't done it in a while and take a bit to remember and get the hang of it again.
i dunno if joy 2 key remapping causes extra input lag, but getting an videocard with native svideo output (without using any converters cuz these causes extra screen latency, absolutely pointless if you have lcds) and plugging it into a crt tv does help with screen latency
@@neizvestnay4 Certain members of the mod team (Hotscrock and pinguupinguu) are anti-white racists and will ban you for questioning it. They kept resetting my 3 year old account and then kicked me off for questioning it in a thread. I've learned with people like that though to always keep proof, and I still have the screenshots of their behaviour before they tried to scrub the evidence.
It's definitely not a myth, and there's a ton of different types and it's a very nuanced conversation. You can say a lot of people use it as an excuse, which I think is probably true (more accurately, a lot of people just haven't yet learned to believe they can succeed and have the confidence to try). Blanket statements like it's a myth are not good though.
8:08 dude I feel u. First emulation I saw was late 2002 or 3. I know it was 8th grade week before Christmas. But can’t math atm. Irrelevant anyway. I was the one who blew it up a few technology inclined kids had gotten the emulators into an open folder where ANYONE could use it. I HATED not knowing how to change the keys nor at thst time WHAT to program them to, but having the right and left hands doing different things ALWAYS fucked with me. We finally got road rash 2 on my buddies computer (around that Same school years’ spring break) and I hated myself for sucking due to not knowing what it was to steer with my right hand and accelerate and brake with my left. It’s all confusing. Idk how Nintendo even decided to use left hand for movement and right hand for actions, but they deserve the whole universe for cooking up that control scheme
@@LdeinerProductions yeah a significant amount of time was spent trying to find good settings lol. They got pretty good but occasionally still the game feed would get all jerky and mess me up. Or, genuinely, one of my jumps would just get cut short for some reason
Okay, I'm not sure if that is a warranted feedback but this video, and only this one, keeps cr*pping out and freezing (will probably resolve itself but just in case other people might have the same issue I thought I post it here).
@@samdabugg Certain members of the mod team use their position to push a racist anti-white agenda. Treating people differently due to their race or skin colour should have no place in gaming, yet Hotscrock and pinguupinguu never got that memo apparently. Edit: I was banned after being on there for about 3 years, so I wasn't just some new player who didn't know how the site operated.
You see the various speedrun leaderboards at 15:04? All eight of those leaderboards are running at the same time. Each leaderboard is tracking the same "value", so a future update will combine them into a single tracker to make the UI cleaner.
Of course talent exists. Magnus Carlsen was a chess prodigy from childhood and became world chess champion. You and I could practice for 10,000 or 100,000 hours and never be as good as him. Some people's brains work differently.
You're right and obviously there are genetics etc etc etc. I think the full nuance didn't really make it in here, but yeah I was more trying to make the point that even when someone does seem like a prodigy, half of it is from them caring/thinking way more about it all the time than other people. There's a lot of hidden factors outside of just raw time spent, and even raw time spent has its own hidden time spent.
I don't know. There are proven cases of psychlogist parents successfully forcing children to become (very unhappy) chess prodigies. Not saying Carlssen is like that, he clearly is passionate about it, and there are factors like special interests in some neurodivergencies, but if he played since childhood, spent a lot of time thinking about chess, was afforded the time and resources to pursue the game competitively and is single-minded enough about it, he is bound to be good. Perhaps not as good as he ultimately is, but I'm sure you could "make" a grandmaster chess player if you can guarantee all of those factors.
retroarch is generally a quite laggy frontend for a lot of people. not sure what monitor kosmic uses, but 60hz / lower refresh rate monitors can also cause some input delay. 240hz on nestopia though will have
You might have run out of things to do in Mario 1, but how about this, try to do a pipe wall jump in real life. Or the flagpole glitch in real life but getting the flagpole might be the hardest part about it
You can't cheat in this, the emulator won't let you do it while retro achievements is active. You also can't use slowdown or load savestates, though you can make them to be loaded later.
Saying talent is only based on experience or transferable skills is like trying to argue tier lists in video games with multiple characters aren't valid. People are genetically different, and have different skillsets that favor them without experience. No one said it was fair, but that's the way it is.
I don't think I said it was ONLY based on that. And you missed tons of nuance from the edit/we didn't even get that into it honestly. I feel like people in general are more inclined to put too much weight into talent than they are the other way around though. This conversation wasn't really even about that though, it was mostly about how there are a lot more contributing factors than people typically take into account.
He means he has his own made and organized playlists of those videos for himself. He meant to say if you want to know I have every Kosmic run's Smb 1 any percent and every Kosmic warpless. He is a fan and was just stating it with no intent. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
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It's 2 AM here, and I have class in 6 hours. Of course, I can spare 15 mins for Mario goodness.
bros like me fr
But it's never just 15 minutes, is it
Like me. It’s 7:29am here
Good morning!
I’m literally in the same boat
I used to make self-imposed achievements on old games like N64 and PS1. Awesome to see the same idea being done for real.
To me achievements are interesting for challenging you to play a game in different ways or explore things you otherwise wouldn't. For Kosmic, these are just a morning routine.
'Tis but a standard playthrough to him
Achievements also add some replayability to games. I like to 100% hardcore games just because I love the feeling of getting better in something difficult
I want him to play the subset
This was incredible to watch, best collab ever. Grats for Leaderboard subset and first ever mastery, and thanks so much to suspect15 for all your hard work!
Suspect15 is a quality individual, maybe he could teach your racist mod team a few things Scott, namely Hotscrock and pinguupinguu.
I was expecting speedrunners to come into this for ages and wondering why we didn't have any. It's literally what I thought day 1 would be with Kosmic topping the leader boards.
If I could play on console I'd be all over it
@@kosmicspeedruns Hi kosmic
Kosmic: ties the TAS in 1-1
Also Kosmic: immediately dies to a goomba in 1-2
(jk I know it wasn't your fault)
And thanks to framerules, tying the TAS is much more lenient than in most other games. Still hard, though.
(Unless he simply matched it before the frame rule: But Kosmic is crazy good.)
I enjoyed your point about talent and transferrable skills. I appreciate your editor splicing those segments together into the video.
congrats, this was awesome to watch. retroachievements seems pretty cool as well! Would love to see you tackle some other achievements for SMB or even other games on there.
These achievement challenges are intense, congratulations getting all the smb records. Your contemplative conversations are always appreciated with speed running 🧠👏
Update: he has only one record gotten
I remember playing Smash at my friend's TV that has more input delay than my monitor and I hated every second of it. Props for doing it in spite of the delay.
I love RetroAchievements! Thanks for making the video, Kosmic!
RetroAchievements is a great idea but is being run by the wrong people.
OMG the thing he starts talking about around the 6 minutee mark. THANK you. I've been telling people this for years and everyone looks at me like I'm crazy or tries to argue with me.
I used to have a 240hz gsync monitor, and on one emulator (maybe it was in retroarch) I was able to set it to use gsync and it felt like I was on a CRT. It was really good. I wish I could remember what it was.
Man, I've watched so many of your videos, and you make SMB1 look so easy. It's given me a false confidence - I've booted up a rom thinking I'd beat it in one go only to get destroyed in World 8. 8-1 has definitely been giving me a lot of trouble. That said, I think my controller has some input lag, so I'm going to swap it for another tonight and see how it goes!
Let me know how it goes!
@@Kosmicd12 Controller was responsive - no more "I swear I pressed A" when falling into a pit - it's all on me now. Haha. Getting good at 8-1, but now 8-3 is giving me trouble; again, you make hammer bros look like a non-issue...!
Congrats on your engagement by the way! I was partly inspired when you challenged your fiancée to beat the game for the first time. I realized I've beaten just about every Mario game (including Super Mario Deluxe, which had level saves (vs. world) and tighter physics...), but never SMB1 proper. Onward!!
It's always really enjoyable to watch these videos. Great skill, great player, and great human behind the pad. It's refreshing to hear someone confident about their abilities without being overly bragging, or overreacting. Love the little conversations in the middle with the chat, you seem like a cool dude to hang out with :) I wish you the best for future runs!
I love your thoughts on skills, talent and transferrable skills! I couldn't agree more!
Kosmic already bullying the leaderboards.
The arrow key part was interesting, I'm so used to using the arrow keys to move for webgames and sometimes on emulators
Hope to see more content with this new system
Awsome project! Amazing Amazing Games SMB and 2J/Lost Levels.
I bought a NES retail in the mid 90's @ 12 years old with my own Money. And discovered the small fire glitch and basic block clips entirly on My own😊 Even occasionally played upside down laying flat on the floor. As a young teen! Love you bud.
8000 kick achievement
That really is one!
Question: If you 8k kick, is the first kill with the shell a 1up already?
@@Hoxeel no, good question though
@@kosmicspeedruns Shame!
Funnily enough, Kosmic still has the record for 1-1, but Niftski has every other record.
The 1-1 record is literally unbeatable, that's the whole point. It ties with the TAS
@8:03 - Joy to Key is a great program for stuff like this
RetroAchievements does what Nintendon't.
Including banning people for being white. Nintendo doesn't do that either.
the funniest thing would've been going to check the achievements leaderboard when you were done and seeing andrewg somehow did it first again
Wow, still #1. Still THE Master of Super Mario Bros. Congrats!
Congrats 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I love retroachievements.
RetroAchievements is a great idea that is being run by the wrong people.
omg you talking about using arrow keys to more mario reminds me of when I played Sonic 3 & Knuckles on PC like 20 years ago and had the same issue. it was SO hard trying to play with the movement and jump controls on opposite sides.
Suika pfp
@@bcfed yes. Suika best 2hu.
Around 8:00 I know what you mean. I'm a chess player and these days I mostly play on a 2D board online but when I occasionally play on a real board it's suddenly so hard to calculate and play well because it's 3D although it's exactly the same game
Talent does exist, perfection of that talent through repetition enhances it.
Ehh, I don't know. Sure, you can pick up stuff faster, but... we all had to learn how to walk, how to talk, barring tragic circumstances preventing us. Skill is almost always down to having adjusted your muscle memory to best deal with something, to best assess a situation and adjusting your approach. Kosmic does not have superhuman reflexes or dexterity: He has just mastered his intuition on the physics, the controls and the route. And when he swapped to, say, SMB 3, he was able to use this base to rapidly improve. Same for all the ROM hacks. And that's what he means: We all have core skillsets that we trained, in part unknowingly, which makes us seem talented at things, but it really boils down to us subconsciously recognizing a similar thing and using that key for a different lock, so to speak.
Not reading all that
@@GardenChess uh, why are you telling me that? Just... don't read it lol
This is awesome. I'm not sure how this system works exactly, but if it's just watching RAM values, you could make achievements for all sorts of stuff, like walljumps, getting all the coins or all the 1UP mushrooms, small fire, FPG, two 1UPs with one shell, high scores, etc.
Yep, they have achievements exactly like that!
8:26 Maybe because I've trained myself to do so, but I've never had issues using my right hand with the arrow keys to play on a computer. I never use the WASD key for directional input unless the game involves the mouse (like Minecraft, Terraria or any FPS. Maybe it's just a skill you can pick up.
it's all muscle memory, same way you can also learn to touch type, or train to become a stenographer, even for things like drawing or even writing when you're a kid. Muscle memory is key and that's why practice is so important. Once you have msucle memory, you spend less time actively worrying about it, and thus can improve on other things that you couldn't before. Same reason you can get rusty from things if you haven't done it in a while and take a bit to remember and get the hang of it again.
10:17 if bowser actually vanished around your reset I would have lolled. Not obviously one flub won’t INSTANTLY LOSe it I’m a dummy
big gaming
Retro Achievements has been around for a long time. It's these Mario speed achievements that are new and on Beta.
I don't think I said anywhere that the entire website is brand new?
i dunno if joy 2 key remapping causes extra input lag, but getting an videocard with native svideo output (without using any converters cuz these causes extra screen latency, absolutely pointless if you have lcds) and plugging it into a crt tv does help with screen latency
welcome to the achievement hunting hobby! RetroAchievements for retro games is such a fun idea, love the site
A fun idea yes, but it's definitely being run by the wrong people.
@@BenTobittwhy?
@@neizvestnay4 Certain members of the mod team (Hotscrock and pinguupinguu) are anti-white racists and will ban you for questioning it. They kept resetting my 3 year old account and then kicked me off for questioning it in a thread. I've learned with people like that though to always keep proof, and I still have the screenshots of their behaviour before they tried to scrub the evidence.
Where do you you get your game roms from for emulation?
I really liked the talk about being good at things. I completely agree. Talent is a myth and an excuse for people to not work hard at improving.
It's definitely not a myth, and there's a ton of different types and it's a very nuanced conversation. You can say a lot of people use it as an excuse, which I think is probably true (more accurately, a lot of people just haven't yet learned to believe they can succeed and have the confidence to try). Blanket statements like it's a myth are not good though.
Wait, why is there a 1-2 frame additional delay? That is a really big deal.
new room? very nice kosmic
Another great video. Never a doubt in my mind you'd get the sub5
How did you get the timers?
8:08 dude I feel u. First emulation I saw was late 2002 or 3. I know it was 8th grade week before Christmas. But can’t math atm. Irrelevant anyway. I was the one who blew it up a few technology inclined kids had gotten the emulators into an open folder where ANYONE could use it. I HATED not knowing how to change the keys nor at thst time WHAT to program them to, but having the right and left hands doing different things ALWAYS fucked with me. We finally got road rash 2 on my buddies computer (around that Same school years’ spring break) and I hated myself for sucking due to not knowing what it was to steer with my right hand and accelerate and brake with my left.
It’s all confusing. Idk how Nintendo even decided to use left hand for movement and right hand for actions, but they deserve the whole universe for cooking up that control scheme
Why was there a delay in your inputs when not playing on console?
I love how you casually blessed us with a first try sub 5 like it was nothing. God tier.
yo this is cool and epic
Hey ! This is a great discovery, thank you ! I already do the sub 5, but in softcore mode aha, let's do the hardcore one now :)
Achievement; isn't that what a world record is?
You can adjust latency settings in RetroArch, right?
Yes, you can. I forgor where exactly the latency setting is, but it's present.
@@MrDoomGrey Yeah, I think it’s in the actual settings tab. Probobly would have helped Kosmic to mess with that.
A lot of messing around with settings was cut from the video. He also tried the newest release of Bizhawk that has achievement support.
@@MuffledSword Ah, ok.
@@LdeinerProductions yeah a significant amount of time was spent trying to find good settings lol. They got pretty good but occasionally still the game feed would get all jerky and mess me up. Or, genuinely, one of my jumps would just get cut short for some reason
Okay, I'm not sure if that is a warranted feedback but this video, and only this one, keeps cr*pping out and freezing (will probably resolve itself but just in case other people might have the same issue I thought I post it here).
RetroAcheivements kick ass
RetroAchievements is a great idea but is being run by the wrong people.
I use Retroachievements all the time and it makes me so happy seeing people make content about it ❤
It's a good idea, but is being run by the wrong people.
@@BenTobitt elaborate
@@samdabugg Certain members of the mod team use their position to push a racist anti-white agenda. Treating people differently due to their race or skin colour should have no place in gaming, yet Hotscrock and pinguupinguu never got that memo apparently.
Edit: I was banned after being on there for about 3 years, so I wasn't just some new player who didn't know how the site operated.
Was it ever addressed why there are 4 timers visible? 😅
Not why, but someone said that they’re going to be consolidated in a future update
You see the various speedrun leaderboards at 15:04? All eight of those leaderboards are running at the same time. Each leaderboard is tracking the same "value", so a future update will combine them into a single tracker to make the UI cleaner.
I love Retroachievements even if some are a little too hard imo.
Kosmic has a second channel?!?!
Of course talent exists. Magnus Carlsen was a chess prodigy from childhood and became world chess champion. You and I could practice for 10,000 or 100,000 hours and never be as good as him. Some people's brains work differently.
You're right and obviously there are genetics etc etc etc. I think the full nuance didn't really make it in here, but yeah I was more trying to make the point that even when someone does seem like a prodigy, half of it is from them caring/thinking way more about it all the time than other people. There's a lot of hidden factors outside of just raw time spent, and even raw time spent has its own hidden time spent.
I don't know. There are proven cases of psychlogist parents successfully forcing children to become (very unhappy) chess prodigies. Not saying Carlssen is like that, he clearly is passionate about it, and there are factors like special interests in some neurodivergencies, but if he played since childhood, spent a lot of time thinking about chess, was afforded the time and resources to pursue the game competitively and is single-minded enough about it, he is bound to be good. Perhaps not as good as he ultimately is, but I'm sure you could "make" a grandmaster chess player if you can guarantee all of those factors.
Are you experiencing input lag when playing on emulator? I thought modern emulators eliminated that. Is it because you're streaming too?
retroarch is generally a quite laggy frontend for a lot of people. not sure what monitor kosmic uses, but 60hz / lower refresh rate monitors can also cause some input delay. 240hz on nestopia though will have
You might have run out of things to do in Mario 1, but how about this, try to do a pipe wall jump in real life.
Or the flagpole glitch in real life but getting the flagpole might be the hardest part about it
Really shows how difficult this speedrun has become, even getting something as 'lenient' as sub 5 still takes so many attempts..
Well, on console I can do it in 1 try lol
why do you never speedrun duck hunt?
also inb4 someone just loads up a tas
or cheat engine
Neat! I guess if you were to skip necessary levels it would auto fail you right?
What do you mean? How would you do that?
@@kosmicspeedruns As in like using a game genie code to start on 8-4 or something like that.
You can't cheat in this, the emulator won't let you do it while retro achievements is active. You also can't use slowdown or load savestates, though you can make them to be loaded later.
@@hoodedman6579 Good, I figured there had to be something that would prevent it.
Saying talent is only based on experience or transferable skills is like trying to argue tier lists in video games with multiple characters aren't valid. People are genetically different, and have different skillsets that favor them without experience. No one said it was fair, but that's the way it is.
I don't think I said it was ONLY based on that. And you missed tons of nuance from the edit/we didn't even get that into it honestly. I feel like people in general are more inclined to put too much weight into talent than they are the other way around though. This conversation wasn't really even about that though, it was mostly about how there are a lot more contributing factors than people typically take into account.
3:25
nerd in chat alert.
Bruh he is the first in 2 things
a spoiler: he does not get the sub-5 in the vid
How long before Nintendo sues Suspect15 into oblivion for this?
Before the 4th of July.
Retro Achievements has been up since 2012 with no issues; it doesn't let you download roms, you have to find them yourselves.
Are 8000 kicks in there? How about bingo cards?
Yes! There's an achievement for 8000 kick with a buzzy beetle!
@@Kosmicd12 bro where do you stream these games live at? I never find your live streams on twitch, or they don't notify me about it.
@@suyashagrawal1102 my twitch is linked in the description
With a title like that, how can you not click?
Where is the Rom hack this week?
I'm out of town so I wasn't able to do one
Ok Kosmic love your videos
Also if you want Kosmic's runs I have every Smb1 any% and every Kosmic's warpless
@@Thefgguy What do you mean exactly?
He means he has his own made and organized playlists of those videos for himself. He meant to say if you want to know I have every Kosmic run's Smb 1 any percent and every Kosmic warpless. He is a fan and was just stating it with no intent. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Nice
HOW DO I PLAY?? 🎉
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Wow!!
pog pog pog pog
where is suspect15's nose!?
Well a few of the RetroAchievements moderation team are pretty toxic so maybe it burned off lol
Once you get good at this game you won't be able to back to the console 😅
didn't know retroarch was so sucky lmao
but yeah, great vid.
Yeah.... Sure you did...
I wish you stuck to not explaining why 😅
sus
Good luck to suspect15's project staying up more than two seconds after the lawsuit happy company finds out.
RetroAchievements has been around since 2012 without issue. Players provide their own ROMs.
@@MuffledSword Ah, right, wow. Okay, that's actually brilliant. Thanks for the info.
I can't watch your videos, it always gets 30 - 50 seconds in and then just stops working, i dont have this issue with any other creator, any ideas!?
buy a better attention span
dog