All this talk of how the Kennedy's were "obsessed"(RFK) with assassinating Castro. Please refer to the work of Jim DiEugenio. Castro assassination plots were developed during the Eisenhower admin and carried over into the Kennedy years but JFK and RFK were never told. When RFK did find out he demanded that they be halted. I wish Jeff M. would speak to this more often.
Not entirely true. Plots were planned during Eisenhower presidency but also during JFK presidency. JFK and RFK knew all too well about the different assignation plots and continued to develop and carry out into LBJ presidency. Those are facts and yes JFK was focused on taking Castro out but changed his position after developing a closer understanding with Khrushchev during and after the missile crisis.
@@MaryKelleher-m4f I have to disagree. I just emailed famed JFK author/researcher & screen writer for Oliver Stone about this very issue. This is his response: "The Kennedys had nothing to do with the CIA/Mafia plots to kill Castro. It says on pp 132-33 of the CIA IG Report that no president had approved them. RFK only found out about them by accident with the Maheu wiretapping incident in Vegas. When he was briefed on them the CIA lied to him and said they had been halted, when they had not been halted. I am really surprised Morley did not nail this point home."
@@MaryKelleher-m4f Second time I've posted this response so I will try again. I will have to disagree on this point. JFK did green-light Eisenhower's Bay of Pigs invasion but realized how he was manipulated by Dulles/CIA and learned from it. I was just in touch with Jim DiEugenio, JFK author/researcher/screen writer for Oliver Stone and this is what he had to say about this: "The Kennedy's had nothing to do with the CIA/Mafia plots to kill Castro. It says on pp 132-33 of the CIA IG Report that no president had approved them. RFK only found out about them by accident with the Maheu wiretapping incident in Vegas. When he was briefed on them the CIA lied to him and said they had been halted, when they had not been halted. I am really surprised Morley did not nail this point home."
The Kennedy/CIA planning for the Bay of Pigs operation went forward with great confidence because everyone expected that Castro’s assassination would signal the invasion’s launch. It was common knowledge in these high circles that the plan’s success depended on getting Castro out of the way. And to be sure, there were multiple failed assassination attempts made on Castro in the weeks leading up to the invasion. Furthermore Kennedy was assured by his good friend Sam Giancana that Castro would be taken out. But he wasn’t and Kennedy made the bad decision to send the brigade in anyway. Kennedy reasoned that aborting the plan would create the larger political problem of dealing with over one thousand armed and angry exiles. In his defense he was quoted as saying (roughly): “Well, they wanted to go back to Cuba anyway.” What everyone didn’t know was that the invasion plan had been compromised early on by Cuban intelligence assets in Miami. Kennedy would later famously whine about how he was misled by the so-called “experts” who anticipated the spontaneous uprising of the Cuban people. In fact it was the Kennedys’ monomaniacal political concerns that stained their hands with rebel blood. This is, among other things, why I question those who seek to canonize JFK.
I understand that these two guys both have an excellent gri on the facts of the case. But still; they don´t discuss the central art of the issue: the medical evidence. Doing that shows clearly that shots have been fired from more than two locations. After that you can go on speculating whodunnit.
As for 'evidence', the simple fact is that there was never a good case against LHO. This was stated by Hoover himself, then later by J. Curry the Dallas police chief. As far back as 64 or 65, one of the WC lawyers (Alfreda Scoby) wrote an article making it clear that LHO could never have been convicted in a proper court by the evidence presented by the WC . This legal opinion was reiterated by Robert Tanenbaun of the HSCA, and later by Jeremy Gunn, chief council of the ARRB. These people had access to all the documents and testimony that few have ever seen or heard. So when we hear these odd apologist making statements about all the evidence we have to ask "what evidence"???? The legl consensus (true lying weridos like Vince "the nut job criminal stalker' Bugliosi excepted) is that LHO could never have been convicted in a real trial with proper council.
@@goodgood9955 Yea...who in their right mind cites that discredit nut job in this day and age???? He could have said 152, 0r 1,552...he would still be full of crap. I think non nut jobs and criminal stalkers , like I cited about know a little bit more than some pyco hired to write another propaganda piece (by the CIA?) that apparently some rubes are still citing...lol
@@goodgood9955He was a nut job criminal stalker that tried twice to get elected as Attorney general of California...and failed, that how good that werido was.
@@proudbirther1998 Come on man..I just gave you the receipts. the legal experts from the very begining to now are the ones saying that ...not me. for Christ sake, you have Hoover on the phone talking to LBJ saying we dont have much of a case on this guy. Sounds like your religion is the WC myth, which has always been very week. These are called facts not beliefs...try them sometime.
At the time of the JFK assassination, I was 7 years old and living in the same town as Linda Blair. 29 years later, my older brother found himself invited to Keith Richards' house, with whom he would spend the night together on numerous occassions. You know, the guy who co-wrote the song 'Sympathy For The Devil'. There's a line in the song that goes: "I shouted out who killed the Kennedys, but after all it was you and me."
At some point after the assassination, Castro, of all people, said political assassins have always done one of two things throughout history: admit to the crime or attempt to escape. Oswald did neither. And going to a movie theatre 10 minutes from the crime scene shouldn’t qualify as an escape. It’s not proof of anything but it is curious and an interesting insight into Oswald.
No, certainly Oswald didn't attempt to escape. He merely immediately left the crime scene, took evasive action to get back to his rooming house, where his other gun was, was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting a cop and fleeing, and was plainly seen trying to hide from and dodge passing police by ducking into the theater. Oh, and if he confessed, he was as good as executed. If he denied all, he could hope to spin his sick fame out indefinitely.
@@aaronz7056 Well I don't know whether the original comment was implying Oswald was innocent because he didn't admit to the crime, I'm just pointing out he didn't get much of a chance to admit to anything because he was dead 24 hours later.
This is very good for me, because I try to understand motives for each side. I liked the Occam's Razor as near "proof" of simple truth of Oswald acting alone. I liked the idea of needing to keep gov't secrets "forever" to protect descendants, which is probably especially true in some countries/cultures where shame is transferred long term to the family. I took issue with the 1st factual interlude - skipped bullet hole in JFK back - and many Oswald "facts" which are disputed such as package, many things should say alleged.
The problem is Occam's razor clearly leads to the conclusion that JFK drove into a multi shooter ambush...its that simple. "Magic bullets", 'neural spasms" and all the other absurd hooey trying to explain at least 8 bullet wounds in two men along with two other "ballistic events" in the limo (car damage ). Its that simple. Lots of wounds equals lots of shooters.
@@EddieOrfield-y1i Exactly, if someone told you some men were driving and shots rang out and they had 10 or 11 "forensic events" in the car,wounds from different angles and directions the obvious conclusion is they drove into a multi shooter Ambush. There is no mystery here.
@@EddieOrfield-y1i exactly - Occam's Razor shows me that a hit list began with the murder of P Lumumba in January 61, hours before JFK was sworn in - and ended only when CIA got elected into the Whiite House as VP, that being in 1981. Final murder attempts are upon John Lennon (who had won the right to stand for office in the US) Pope JP II, and Ronald Reagan - We know for fact that a hit squad, a government funded one, perhaps ava available of impostors (how can Morley allow for any impersonation of LHO, whatsoever, and still have LHO s a shooter on the day?) and shady low-life informants, who each could be framed as a killer - such a squad narrowly missed Nelson Mandela. After 1981 the Enterprise begins and the hawks get all they want. The hits on world pro-peace leaders, stop. Occam needs the 1961-1981 window explained - and I've done it. After 1981 war is normalized - JFKs UN Address of 20 Sept 63 is WHOLLY forgotten. Anyone hearing his words today would sense, hey, that guy's going to get himself shot.
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Single bullet theory makes perfect sense and is backed up by evidence. Oswald also freely admitted to reporters he was in the building so the idea he "wasn't even at Dealey Plaza" is hilarious.
At 24:14 you say JFK was pronounced dead at 1pm, then at 24:25 you say LBJ took the oath at 12:38pm. How many other errors have you made in this video?
I don’t think that 45 protected the Agency (in fact, this intensified the speculations even more and the reputation has been damaged anyway). I’d argue, he protects some intelligence and perhaps an ‘ally’.
Ridiculous - first of all if you drill down into the org chart - CIA is an arm of the executive branch - they work at the pleasure and for the benefit of POTUS. Second if he was against CIA - why in the hell would he appoint Gina Haspel - you could not choose a more institutional candidate for director
yeah, 9/11 was done mostly by our ally Saudi Arabia, not Iraq with phantom weapons of mass destruction or Afghanistan. The top 3 modern American events were the Great Depression, WWII, maybe JFK's assassination, certainly 9/11; yet, what percentage of Americans know there was a third building that collapsed on 9/11, let alone a building that was not hit by a plane? I estimate over 90% do not know about Building No. 7, even though 9/11 was the precursor to the intelligence agencies spying en masse on Americans and the two longest wars in U.S. history.
"The Central Intelligence Agency, founded in 1947, did not have a station in Moscow until the early 1960s; its director in that decade, Richard Helms, now says half jokingly that there were no files on the Soviet Union in the CIA’s early days, that the agency’s analysts were better off doing research at the Library of Congress." - World Policy Journal, Soviet Spies: Did They Make a Difference By Tim Weiner
Fantastic video! The way you uncovered The JFK was truly eye-opening. I’ve been sharing content on similar topics, and I’d love to connect with fellow history enthusiasts!
there is irrefutable evidence of shots from behind and in front credible witnesses on the overpass identifying shots from the fence just for two instances that are confirming by 'evidence'
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there. Zapruder's secretary was only yards away from the fence and heard and saw nobody there. Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind. Kennedy is seen to suffer an explosive exit wound at the temple consistent only with a shot from behind. Connally's said the shots came from behind. Autopsy shows the shots came from behind. Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos when they examined them on NOVA in 1988. It's just idiotic to think anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions with different guns and bullets.
@@aaronz7056 All nonsense, as i have debunked, and made a fool of you so many times, I have lost count. Dont you get tired of cut and pasting the same lies from 1964???.....lol. I mean honestly?????
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz To answer your question, zero times, actually. To answer your other question, some people just see value in alerting people when they are being misled by lying paranoids like yourself, you have a problem with that? lol
0:27:00 - There could be an embarrassing explanation as to why some records will never he released. Somebody, perhaps quite a few "agents" permanently "defaced" or destroyed records, or parts of records - nevermind the significance of their content.
Just watched this on Amazon Prime last night: "History Specials" Lee Harvey Oswald: 48 Hours to Live (TV Episode 2013) Kinda shoots down every Conspiracy Theory involving Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby working for the CIA. Gentlemen. Did any of you watch that one? 🤔
Jack Rubys “therapist” after shooting LHO was Jolly West - one of the architects of MK Ultra. Yall just watch one doc or listen to one podcast episode and you think you know everything.
JFK went down to Dallas, to cool some heels in the Oil Palace. Unfriendly country, he was not afraid, he would wave to the people from a passing motorcade. At 11 MPH such a deadly speed, 11MPH the time and place agreed, they pulled the limousine down Elm Street slow and clean, the lead fell like a shower at 11 MPH 11MPH Was Not Was
I've not verified the veracity of the statistic, but I did read that the Dallas Metro area had TWICE the number of gun deaths than the totality of the rest of the country in 1961. It was definitely the hotbed of radical, violent right-wing business and intelligence. There was no more dangerous place in the country JFK could have traveled to at the time. As he told his wife that morning, "we're heading into nut country."
A major mistake, LHO should of been under surveillance on that tragic day in Dallas when Kennedy was assassinated. Could this be what the cover up is all about? If he was under surveillance then he could of been ruled in or out. If it wasn't LHO then who and why? I would love to have another 2-3 hours of this podcast. In more recent times, the guy who took shots at Trump should of been under surveillance and stopped on the day before shots were fired. I hope that event doesn't go on for many years after.
Ruth Paine: takes in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband, tries to help them get back on their feet, and for that she gets to spend the next 60 years watching armchair detectives and despicable paranoids happily accuse her without evidence of being a conspirator in murder and treason so long as it suits their sick "theories," it's beyond disgusting.
The motorcade was running late. Oswald had no way of knowing that unless he was following it on a radio. Where’s the radio? Doesn’t exist and no one saw him listening to one. He was seen on lower floors too late to have been on the sixth floor in time to fire the shots. After all, this was premeditated on his part, right? As someone else has said, the guy couldn’t do the shooting.
Oswald owned and smuggled the rifle. Oswald left his latent print on the rifle. Oswald lied to police about his whereabouts. Oswald had every bullet and fragment ever found matched to his rifle. Oswald was the only employee inside the building during the shooting to immediately flee the plaza and never return. Oswald took evasive action by cab to sneak back to his rooming house. Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting Officer Tippit and fleeing. Oswald owned and was in possession of the gun the shells were matched to. Oswald threw away his jacket between the crime scene and the theater. Oswald was clearly seen trying to hide from and to dodge passing police. Oswald was caught red-handed trying to shoot a cop. Oswald fought police so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him. Oswald observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing. Oswald refused to cooperate with any investigator. Oswald even convinced his own brother he was guilty. Oswald turned down help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association. Oswald was only interested in a lawyer he'd never met living in another state who specialized in left-wing causes. Oswald just shrugged a hollow, rambling, unsurprised, evasive reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?" But... he didn't own a radio, thus completely clearing him, and the assassin was obviously somebody else.
@@aaronz7056 they do not and never did have any actual proof Oswald owned any gun at all. The employees were alL over the outside of the Book Depository. Many people had left. They found at least 3 guns at the Depository. From Friday until late Saturday, the reports said the rifle used by Oswald was a Mauser. Late Saturday or early Sunday, the FBI filed a report that they could not find any prints at all on the rifle. After Oswald was killed, agents went to the mortuary where they had Oswald's body and got prints from his hands. Suddenly, Monday the FBI had prints on the rifle. As for the Tippet shooting they had witnesses testify they saw two people shoot Tippet. They found ammo on scene from a revolver and an automatic. Oswald was said to have a revolver. There was a cop that came to the Tippet scene and showed a film crew Owalds wallet. And this was before Oswald was even arrested. Oswald was set up and killed no one that day
@@gwfortenberry1579 A) No doubt you will of course now explain for us how many of those OTHER employees: - were INSIDE the building during the shooting - lied to police about their whereabouts during the shooting - took evasive action to get to their other guns - were ID'd by witnesses as shooting a cop - were plainly seen trying to hide from and to dodge passing police - were caught red-handed trying to shoot a second cop - fought police so violently 3 officer were injured just disarming them - observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop killing - acted so smug they even convinced their own brothers they were guilty - turned down help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association - were only interested in lawyers they'd never met living in other states who specialized in left-wing causes - just shrugged hollow, rambling replies when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?" Was it all of them or just most of them? B) B.S. they found 3 guns, they found the Carcano, to which every bullet and fragment ever found were matched. Officers freely admitted to initially misidentifying the unfamiliar Carcano at first, big deal. But, of course, it's MUCH more likely that somebody left multiple guns, or the wrong kinds of guns, lying around the crime scene for an army of police and FBI agents to swiftly find... c) Print was latent, for goodness' sake, and the funeral home story is implausible garbage. Want to keep you "coup" top secret? No problem! Just help yourself to the rifle cops have already told the public is the murder weapon, take it to the funeral home, make a huge spectacle out of throwing the staff out (thus confirming to every last one of them a conspiracy is operating), shove the gun into the corpse's hands, and be sure to leave plenty of ink on those hands for the morticians to have to clean up, thus providing even MORE cast-iron evidence for them a conspiracy is operating... d) No, Clemons, whose words make it clear enough she saw at best a shooter and a bystander who was almost certainly either Cimino or Benavides, didn't even see the actual shooting, and other witnesses much closer to Tippit than her firmly said there was but one shooter. In fact, Oswald was ID'd by ten witnesses as shooting Tippit and fleeing, and he owned and was in possession of the gun the shells were matched to, never mind his own damning actions in the minutes after Tippit's death. Oswald was using more than one kind of ammo, big deal. You can do that with that type of revolver. e) Wallet seen being handled in the film is almost certainly just Callaway's but even if it wasn't, so what? Many people have more than one wallet. How does finding a wallet in any way negate the evidence he shot Tippit. f) No doubt you will of course ALSO now explain how the people "setting up" Oswald could possibly have known: - he would show up unexpectedly at the Paine house Nov. 21, otherwise they can't pretend he smuggled the rifle Nov. 22 - he would suddenly possess a package the next morning AT ALL - he would not just stand out on the sidewalk during the parade - he would lie to police - no unidentified persons would ever be seen inside the building by anybody - he would immediately leave the crime scene - he would decide at the last minute to put a jacket on AT ALL - there is any point in attacking a cop on a public street since Oswald is already going to be sought for Kennedy anyway - there is any logic in attacking a cop since anything going wrong here will just end up confirming a conspiracy exists - an imposter who looks so much like him he is guaranteed to fool the nearly dozen witnesses who ID Oswald needs to be hanging around 10th and Patton - a cop is guaranteed to be driving there at exactly the right moment to plausibly place Oswald there - the imposter, as he attacks the cop, can be certain Oswald is still at liberty somewhere - the imposter can be certain Oswald has no alibi - the imposter can be certain Oswald has come to that general neighbourhood at all - the cop won't simply outdraw and capture the imposter, blowing the whole plot - no other cop will capture the imposter, blowing the whole plot - a shoe store clerk will happen to have his radio on - the clerk will happen to hear the APB on the assassination suspect - the clerk will happen to see Oswald in his doorway - the clerk will happen to see Oswald plainly trying to hide from passing police - the clerk will be suspicious enough to follow Oswald down the street - the clerk will plainly see Oswald duck into a theater to dodge more passing police - the clerk will be suspicious enough to call in a tip to police - Oswald will agree to help frame himself with his actions in the theater - he will never attempt to blow any conspiracy framing him to ANY cop, any member of his family, to the President of the Dallas Bar Association, or to a live TV audience of millions - the Dallas PD is guaranteed to be on board for the successful escape from justice of the "real killers" of a decorated brother officer with a wife and 3 children - they are guaranteed to safely approach scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, pathologists, ballistics experts, photographers, x-ray technicians, Oswald family members, whole commissions, lawyers, senators, congressmen, the D.A., the Chief Justice, etc., and persuade them all to obey illegal orders to commit crimes, trust each other implicitly, assist a bloody coup, and bend over backwards making themselves all eternally loyal accessories to murder and treason...
Please don’t say your stating facts and then state opinion or mistruths . Oswald was not in Mexico .Hoover said so to LBJ the next day ! Someone purporting to be Oswald was there but it’s not LHO. The Mexican official in the embassy denied Oswald was the man who spoke to her saying he was LHO. The CIA records that say it’s him are simply restating what the person claiming to be Oswald said. The CIA don’t want to release this information because it shows someone pretending to be LHO, which is more suspicious regarding others involvement than LHO going to Mexico to get a visa and them observing this. That’s what troubled Hoover initially and led to the Warren Commission appointed by LBJ to control what questions could be asked and what information would be published.Hoover new other agencies were involved listen to his telephone calls to LBJ. They knew they had to quickly limit the blame on LHO. They essentially say so after a couple of days after the assassination. To say LHO was not debriefed is untrue he spent 2 days in Rotterdam before returning to the US , he gave them his intel , what else was he doing ship spotting? Please don’t accept what “ experts “ tell you without researching it yourself. Most people have an angle to sell a book.
Cool. Thanks for your perspective. But you're kind of in need of a new facts update per Mark Grubert of America's Untold Stories. Lee Harvey Oswald was an excellent student . Super smart. He ran for class president. He was an incredibly avid reader . Former classmate's recently in the past few years have talked about how smart he was l. He has a bad boy side. It was mainly bullied for his smarts and his size. that's why he left school. He also was an avid Kennedy fan of this was reported by several people including when he was in Russia and New Orleans. You seemed tiptoe around the obvious fact that the CIA was involved involved. Also the Las Vegas shooter they now know did not shoot all those people that were helicopters flying there was a shooting at another hotel a mile away there were three helicopters people were shot at the top of their heads people were shot in parking lots he couldn't have reached and it was a staged said when the cops got there and there were two women died within 2 months of that shooting so you guys need to quit reading from the CIA playbook . Ask sometimes remind me of a time line for CNN reporting it's julll
Mark Groubert's A.U.S. record: a) gives his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer who lost his life in the cause of his duty as he accuses the man without evidence of being a conspirator so long as it suits his sick "theories" b) does the same to Ruth Paine as though just gagging to get his despicable butt sued for slander c) happily hawks books written by that unspeakable monster Alex Jones d) ignores and contradicts actual evidence in favour of lecturing the "Deep State" is out to get us all...
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Try doing some research. Those choppers took off from a private location just blocks away from the Mandalay Bay Hotel, and they were recorded on video at the scene. Witnesses also saw military dressed shooters at the opposite end of the parking lot firing into the crowd. There was a simultaneous assault rifle attack at another nearby hotel.
For the interested reader that has to suffer through coma man's cut and paste hooey. Let start with hi first too often repated hooey: First of all, NO BULLET fragments matched the rifle found at the TSBD. That myth began with the FBI testing, which they clearly fudged with confusing language. In simple terms 'the FBI FOUND NO MATCH" (any deviations meant a non match, they claimed a high degree of similarity...lol..but they wanted the reader to believe it meant a match. )Second, was the loooong debuked hooey from the HSCA, and neutron activation testing, which claimed it had proved a match, this hooey, even G. Robert Blakey, the head of the HSCA at that time in the late 70s accepted the conclusions...he has since come out publicly saying it is "junk science" after scientific papers coming out in journals proved it. so the question is not was there matches, to witch the emphatic scientific conclusion is "NO", but why so few bullets or fragments were said to be found. the answer is because they would not have matched the TSBD carbine so had to disappear. Its hard to understand the facts when some wirdo keeps reaping hooey from decades ago (despite his lies being pointed out again and again with citations)....like he has been in a coma since 1964..lol
Your use of the non-word “hooey” exposes your lack of common sense and ability to objectively look at the mountain of evidence that proves Oswald was guilty.
@@jetcat132 So....your oh so in-depth critique of MY FACTS, is to take issue with my vocabulary????...LMFAO . Once again, we have some poor weirdo repeating a mantra (usually first written by another extreme weirdo, like Vince "the nut case criminal stalker and woman beater" Bugliosi) but unable to deal with facts...but there is a "mountain of evidence? Is there? If there was, as I commented below, why do all the legal experts (who I cited by name) most familiar with the evidence against Lee Oswald all coming out across the decades claiming that LHO could never have been convicted in a real court? How does that fact, have anything to do with me and my 'common sense". or do you even understand the idea of facts and evidence? It sure doesn't sound like it.
@@jetcat132 So....your oh so in-depth critique of MY FACTS, is to take issue with my vocabulary????...LMFAO . Once again,... we have some poor weirdo repeating a mantra (usually first written by another extreme weirdo, like Vince "the nut case criminal stalker and woman beater" Bugliosi) but unable to deal with facts...but there is a "mountain of evidence? Is there? If there was, as I commented below, why do all the legal experts (who I cited by name) most familiar with the evidence against Lee Oswald all coming out across the decades claiming that LHO could never have been convicted in a real court? How does that fact, have anything to do with me and my "common sense". or do you even understand the idea of facts and evidence? It sure doesn't sound like it.
@@jetcat132 So....your oh so in-depth critique of MY FACTS, is to take issue with my vocabulary????...LMFAO . Once again,.. we have some poor weirdo repeating a mantra (usually first written by another extreme weirdo, like Vince "the nut case criminal stalker and woman beater" Bugliosi) but unable to deal with facts...but there is a "mountain of evidence? Is there? If there was, as I commented below, why do all the legal experts (who I cited by name) most familiar with the evidence against Lee Oswald all coming out across the decades claiming that LHO could never have been convicted in a real court? How does that fact, have anything to do with me and my "common sense". or do you even understand the idea of facts and evidence? It sure doesn't sound like it.
0:39:15 - "the pistol". Why would Oswald ask the cab driver to take him to tye 500 block on "South Beckley"? Why would he change his mind and ask to be dropped near his "Rooming House"? The short taxi ride was perhaps long enough for Oswald to realise that he had been "set up", and that his "rendezvous" at the Texas Theatre might be a deadly ambush. So, the pistol he did not want to carry that morning at the TSBD was now essential for his "protection".
"I AM NOT RESISTING, I AM NOT RESISTING" --->"I'M A PATSY"--->Killed the next day by Jack Ruby who eventually confirmed this...All notes destroyed by the Dallas cops. trace it back to George de Mohrenschildt a now known CIA asset. "DEFECTED" to USSR (likely as as double agent as many did under now known CIA operation"--->He played both sides. It all stated as a young boy in the air national guard with David Ferry. It's all there right in front of us. You just have to weed out all he bogus far fetch conspiracy speculations..Focus on FACTS and the truth is there.
@@ulicadlugaHistory Channel website: At 12:47 p.m. Oswald entered a taxi driven by William Wayne Whaley at the Greyhound bus terminal. Whaley opened the back door for his passenger, but Oswald said he wanted to sit in the front seat-a common practice in the Soviet Union, where the former U.S. Marine had defected in 1959. Oswald told him to take him to the five hundred block of North Beckley. While Oswald was riding in the cab, police once again broadcast a description of the shooter to all cruisers. Whaley, who had not yet heard news of the shooting, asked his passenger about all the police sirens. Oswald did not respond. He rode the entire way in silence. The driver later told investigators he thought Oswald was “a wino two days off the bottle.” After the two-and-a-half-mile ride Oswald asked the driver to drop him off at Beckley and Neely, about a ten-minute walk from his boarding house. Why not have the driver take him right to his house? Oswald likely feared that police would have already identified him as the killer and were speeding to his room.
He took evasive action to get to his rooming house because he didn't want to be followed and he wanted to be sure cops were not there already after his absence from the Depository was noticed. The idea he was "set up" is implausible and laughable.
0:38:18 - "Patsy". The definition of "Patsy" surely is "a person who is framed for the misdeeds of others". The only interpretation of Oswald's words can be that he, at least, admitted to being "involved". Admittedly, he could be referring to being "framed" by the DPD. But why would the DPD want to "frame" him? And why, before the press conference did Oswald not name the forces behind making him a "Patsy"? Perhaps he was too fearful of naming them (it)?
If you could have been bothered to watch the entire clip before letting Oswald (caught red-handed trying to murder a police officer) off the hook, you would have seen he only says he is a patsy in relation to being hassled by cops for having lived in Russia, and he never attempted to blow any conspiracy framing him to ANY cop, any member of his family, to the President of the Dallas Bar Association, or to a live TV audience of millions, never mind there's a mountain of evidence for his guilty anyway.
Around the 21st minute he actually said he believed that Oswald shot and killed Kennedy 😂😂 I doubt that anyone on the Warren commission even believed that story after they completed it and that's the truth 😅
I wonder why LHO bought such a lousy weapon. How much more was a good one? They first identified the gun on the 6th floor as a Mauser so they must have swapped it out with Lee's gun.
Mrs. Paine took in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband and tried to help them get back on their feet, and for that she's had to spend 60 years watching armchair detectives like yourself happily opine away without evidence she is a conspirator, murderer, and traitor so long as it suits your sick "theories." Hope you are proud of yourself.
@@lisacesari89 Lol okay. It must be nice to ignore all that evidence. Go ahead, make a reply and post a cute little emoji to go with it! Yay! It still doesn’t change the evidence.
All this talk of how the Kennedy's were "obsessed"(RFK) with assassinating Castro. Please refer to the work of Jim DiEugenio. Castro assassination plots were developed during the Eisenhower admin and carried over into the Kennedy years but JFK and RFK were never told. When RFK did find out he demanded that they be halted. I wish Jeff M. would speak to this more often.
Not entirely true. Plots were planned during Eisenhower presidency but also during JFK presidency. JFK and RFK knew all too well about the different assignation plots and continued to develop and carry out into LBJ presidency. Those are facts and yes JFK was focused on taking Castro out but changed his position after developing a closer understanding with Khrushchev during and after the missile crisis.
@@MaryKelleher-m4f I have to disagree. I just emailed famed JFK author/researcher & screen writer for Oliver Stone about this very issue. This is his response:
"The Kennedys had nothing to do with the CIA/Mafia plots to kill Castro.
It says on pp 132-33 of the CIA IG Report that no president had approved them. RFK only found out about them by accident with the Maheu wiretapping incident in Vegas. When he was briefed on them the CIA lied to him and said they had been halted, when they had not been halted.
I am really surprised Morley did not nail this point home."
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Second time I've posted this response so I will try again.
I will have to disagree on this point. JFK did green-light Eisenhower's Bay of Pigs invasion but realized how he was manipulated by Dulles/CIA and learned from it.
I was just in touch with Jim DiEugenio, JFK author/researcher/screen writer for Oliver Stone and this is what he had to say about this:
"The Kennedy's had nothing to do with the CIA/Mafia plots to kill Castro.
It says on pp 132-33 of the CIA IG Report that no president had approved them. RFK only found out about them by accident with the Maheu wiretapping incident in Vegas. When he was briefed on them the CIA lied to him and said they had been halted, when they had not been halted.
I am really surprised Morley did not nail this point home."
The Kennedy/CIA planning for the Bay of Pigs operation went forward with great confidence because everyone expected that Castro’s assassination would signal the invasion’s launch. It was common knowledge in these high circles that the plan’s success depended on getting Castro out of the way. And to be sure, there were multiple failed assassination attempts made on Castro in the weeks leading up to the invasion. Furthermore Kennedy was assured by his good friend Sam Giancana that Castro would be taken out. But he wasn’t and Kennedy made the bad decision to send the brigade in anyway. Kennedy reasoned that aborting the plan would create the larger political problem of dealing with over one thousand armed and angry exiles. In his defense he was quoted as saying (roughly): “Well, they wanted to go back to Cuba anyway.”
What everyone didn’t know was that the invasion plan had been compromised early on by Cuban intelligence assets in Miami. Kennedy would later famously whine about how he was misled by the so-called “experts” who anticipated the spontaneous uprising of the Cuban people. In fact it was the Kennedys’ monomaniacal political concerns that stained their hands with rebel blood. This is, among other things, why I question those who seek to canonize JFK.
Go read 1967 Inspector General report, specifically states that the assassination plots were carried out by the Agency with no presidential approval.
I understand that these two guys both have an excellent gri on the facts of the case. But still; they don´t discuss the central art of the issue: the medical evidence. Doing that shows clearly that shots have been fired from more than two locations. After that you can go on speculating whodunnit.
Did you watch both parts? They do address this.
Jerome Corsi wrote a book about this very subject.
As for 'evidence', the simple fact is that there was never a good case against LHO. This was stated by Hoover himself, then later by J. Curry the Dallas police chief. As far back as 64 or 65, one of the WC lawyers (Alfreda Scoby) wrote an article making it clear that LHO could never have been convicted in a proper court by the evidence presented by the WC . This legal opinion was reiterated by Robert Tanenbaun of the HSCA, and later by Jeremy Gunn, chief council of the ARRB. These people had access to all the documents and testimony that few have ever seen or heard. So when we hear these odd apologist making statements about all the evidence we have to ask "what evidence"???? The legl consensus (true lying weridos like Vince "the nut job criminal stalker' Bugliosi excepted) is that LHO could never have been convicted in a real trial with proper council.
Vincent Bugliosi states 52 pieces of evidence in his book.
@@goodgood9955 Yea...who in their right mind cites that discredit nut job in this day and age???? He could have said 152, 0r 1,552...he would still be full of crap. I think non nut jobs and criminal stalkers , like I cited about know a little bit more than some pyco hired to write another propaganda piece (by the CIA?) that apparently some rubes are still citing...lol
@@goodgood9955He was a nut job criminal stalker that tried twice to get elected as Attorney general of California...and failed, that how good that werido was.
Never a good case?? Nonsense!
You are not objective. No one wants to admit their religion is wrong.
@@proudbirther1998 Come on man..I just gave you the receipts. the legal experts from the very begining to now are the ones saying that ...not me. for Christ sake, you have Hoover on the phone talking to LBJ saying we dont have much of a case on this guy. Sounds like your religion is the WC myth, which has always been very week. These are called facts not beliefs...try them sometime.
Excellent well-thought-out content. Thank you for this.
At the time of the JFK assassination, I was 7 years old and living in the same town as Linda Blair. 29 years later, my older brother found himself invited to Keith Richards' house, with whom he would spend the night together on numerous occassions. You know, the guy who co-wrote the song 'Sympathy For The Devil'. There's a line in the song that goes: "I shouted out who killed the Kennedys, but after all it was you and me."
At some point after the assassination, Castro, of all people, said political assassins have always done one of two things throughout history: admit to the crime or attempt to escape. Oswald did neither. And going to a movie theatre 10 minutes from the crime scene shouldn’t qualify as an escape. It’s not proof of anything but it is curious and an interesting insight into Oswald.
No, certainly Oswald didn't attempt to escape. He merely immediately left the crime scene, took evasive action to get back to his rooming house, where his other gun was, was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting a cop and fleeing, and was plainly seen trying to hide from and dodge passing police by ducking into the theater. Oh, and if he confessed, he was as good as executed. If he denied all, he could hope to spin his sick fame out indefinitely.
@@aaronz7056 More bullshit from you. You really need to get a life and stop trolling every single channel on this app.
Well he didn't get much of a chance did he?
@@chalkandcheese1868 Obviously not, what's your point?
@@aaronz7056 Well I don't know whether the original comment was implying Oswald was innocent because he didn't admit to the crime, I'm just pointing out he didn't get much of a chance to admit to anything because he was dead 24 hours later.
Your content to commercial ratio is too low. At 16 minutes I'm out.
This is very good for me, because I try to understand motives for each side. I liked the Occam's Razor as near "proof" of simple truth of Oswald acting alone. I liked the idea of needing to keep gov't secrets "forever" to protect descendants, which is probably especially true in some countries/cultures where shame is transferred long term to the family. I took issue with the 1st factual interlude - skipped bullet hole in JFK back - and many Oswald "facts" which are disputed such as package, many things should say alleged.
The problem is Occam's razor clearly leads to the conclusion that JFK drove into a multi shooter ambush...its that simple. "Magic bullets", 'neural spasms" and all the other absurd hooey trying to explain at least 8 bullet wounds in two men along with two other "ballistic events" in the limo (car damage ). Its that simple. Lots of wounds equals lots of shooters.
check William of Occam over again - you're wrong about his razor!
With all the inconsistencies and contradictory evidence, Occam’s razor would indicate more than one shooter.
@@EddieOrfield-y1i Exactly, if someone told you some men were driving and shots rang out and they had 10 or 11 "forensic events" in the car,wounds from different angles and directions the obvious conclusion is they drove into a multi shooter Ambush. There is no mystery here.
@@EddieOrfield-y1i exactly - Occam's Razor shows me that a hit list began with the murder of P Lumumba in January 61, hours before JFK was sworn in - and ended only when CIA got elected into the Whiite House as VP, that being in 1981.
Final murder attempts are upon John Lennon (who had won the right to stand for office in the US) Pope JP II, and Ronald Reagan -
We know for fact that a hit squad, a government funded one, perhaps ava available of impostors (how can Morley allow for any impersonation of LHO, whatsoever, and still have LHO s a shooter on the day?) and shady low-life informants, who each could be framed as a killer - such a squad narrowly missed Nelson Mandela.
After 1981 the Enterprise begins and the hawks get all they want. The hits on world pro-peace leaders, stop. Occam needs the 1961-1981 window explained - and I've done it.
After 1981 war is normalized - JFKs UN Address of 20 Sept 63 is WHOLLY forgotten.
Anyone hearing his words today would sense, hey, that guy's going to get himself shot.
Oswald must be the fastest man who ever lived to ricochet from one corner of Dailey plaza to the other.
He wasn't even at Dealey Plaza.
let me get this straight...magic bullets, shot from a fairy dust powered rifle by a teleporting assassin? Do I have that about right?
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Perfect.
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Single bullet theory makes perfect sense and is backed up by evidence. Oswald also freely admitted to reporters he was in the building so the idea he "wasn't even at Dealey Plaza" is hilarious.
@@aaronz7056 Once again...the magic bullet fantasy was refuted even by the Dr.s at the WC clown show.....lol
I was listening to part II and suddenly I was cut off and now that video is “private”. How can I listen the complete podcast of Part II?
It's posted now. ✔️
At 24:14 you say JFK was pronounced dead at 1pm, then at 24:25 you say LBJ took the oath at 12:38pm.
How many other errors have you made in this video?
What does one have to do with the other? JFK was not going to be president even if he survived somehow
I don’t think that 45 protected the Agency (in fact, this intensified the speculations even more and the reputation has been damaged anyway). I’d argue, he protects some intelligence and perhaps an ‘ally’.
The crooks investigating themselves 🤔, ...we may never know. This place will never offer answers. Simple math.
One word: Mafia
@@James_Bowie this term is very broad… if you know the history of central banks
Ridiculous - first of all if you drill down into the org chart - CIA is an arm of the executive branch - they work at the pleasure and for the benefit of POTUS. Second if he was against CIA - why in the hell would he appoint Gina Haspel - you could not choose a more institutional candidate for director
yeah, 9/11 was done mostly by our ally Saudi Arabia, not Iraq with phantom weapons of mass destruction or Afghanistan. The top 3 modern American events were the Great Depression, WWII, maybe JFK's assassination, certainly 9/11; yet, what percentage of Americans know there was a third building that collapsed on 9/11, let alone a building that was not hit by a plane? I estimate over 90% do not know about Building No. 7, even though 9/11 was the precursor to the intelligence agencies spying en masse on Americans and the two longest wars in U.S. history.
The constant commercials make this fairly unwatchable. Too many interruptions.
There was a cia station chief in Moscow in the 1950s thru the early 1960s? That's news to me.
"The Central Intelligence Agency, founded in 1947, did not have a station in Moscow until the early 1960s; its director in that decade, Richard Helms, now says half jokingly that there were no files on the Soviet Union in the CIA’s early days, that the agency’s analysts were better off doing research at the Library of Congress." - World Policy Journal, Soviet Spies: Did They Make a Difference By Tim Weiner
No reporting on spies anymore? Sad, had a good show during Covid/
Vincent is a friend ,that explains that.
Fantastic video! The way you uncovered The JFK was truly eye-opening. I’ve been sharing content on similar topics, and I’d love to connect with fellow history enthusiasts!
there is irrefutable evidence of shots from behind and in front credible
witnesses on the overpass identifying shots from the fence just for two instances that are confirming by 'evidence'
of course.....
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle.
Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead.
Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there.
Zapruder's secretary was only yards away from the fence and heard and saw nobody there.
Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind.
Kennedy is seen to suffer an explosive exit wound at the temple consistent only with a shot from behind.
Connally's said the shots came from behind.
Autopsy shows the shots came from behind.
Parkland doctors had no particular problem with the autopsy photos when they examined them on NOVA in 1988.
It's just idiotic to think anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions with different guns and bullets.
@@aaronz7056 Jesus, weirdo enough with the cut and paste, that I have debunked ,and made a fool of you, HOW MANY TIMES?????
@@aaronz7056 All nonsense, as i have debunked, and made a fool of you so many times, I have lost count. Dont you get tired of cut and pasting the same lies from 1964???.....lol. I mean honestly?????
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz To answer your question, zero times, actually.
To answer your other question, some people just see value in alerting people when they are being misled by lying paranoids like yourself, you have a problem with that? lol
0:27:00 - There could be an embarrassing explanation as to why some records will never he released. Somebody, perhaps quite a few "agents" permanently "defaced" or destroyed records, or parts of records - nevermind the significance of their content.
Just watched this on Amazon Prime last night:
"History Specials" Lee Harvey Oswald: 48 Hours to Live (TV Episode 2013)
Kinda shoots down every Conspiracy Theory involving Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby working for the CIA. Gentlemen. Did any of you watch that one? 🤔
Jack Rubys “therapist” after shooting LHO was Jolly West - one of the architects of MK Ultra. Yall just watch one doc or listen to one podcast episode and you think you know everything.
@@neopatriot7716 I guess WHO is watching or reading, matters, yes? Obviously. ❤️
Assets in Mexico may still be alive so still need protecting??? 60 years? FROM WHO!!!??
JFK went down to Dallas, to cool some heels in the Oil Palace. Unfriendly country, he was not afraid, he would wave to the people from a passing motorcade.
At 11 MPH such a deadly speed, 11MPH the time and place agreed, they pulled the limousine down Elm Street slow and clean, the lead fell like a shower at 11 MPH
11MPH Was Not Was
I've not verified the veracity of the statistic, but I did read that the Dallas Metro area had TWICE the number of gun deaths than the totality of the rest of the country in 1961. It was definitely the hotbed of radical, violent right-wing business and intelligence. There was no more dangerous place in the country JFK could have traveled to at the time. As he told his wife that morning, "we're heading into nut country."
A major mistake, LHO should of been under surveillance on that tragic day in Dallas when Kennedy was assassinated. Could this be what the cover up is all about? If he was under surveillance then he could of been ruled in or out. If it wasn't LHO then who and why? I would love to have another 2-3 hours of this podcast.
In more recent times, the guy who took shots at Trump should of been under surveillance and stopped on the day before shots were fired. I hope that event doesn't go on for many years after.
Oswald did not do it!
@@ciaranleonard3744 I agree and if he was under surveillance they could of ruled him out completely and we could aswell all these years later
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Two very important names, one dead the other still alive…. Allen Dulles and Ruth Paine
Ruth Paine: takes in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband, tries to help them get back on their feet, and for that she gets to spend the next 60 years watching armchair detectives and despicable paranoids happily accuse her without evidence of being a conspirator in murder and treason so long as it suits their sick "theories," it's beyond disgusting.
The motorcade was running late. Oswald had no way of knowing that unless he was following it on a radio. Where’s the radio? Doesn’t exist and no one saw him listening to one. He was seen on lower floors too late to have been on the sixth floor in time to fire the shots. After all, this was premeditated on his part, right? As someone else has said, the guy couldn’t do the shooting.
Oswald owned and smuggled the rifle.
Oswald left his latent print on the rifle.
Oswald lied to police about his whereabouts.
Oswald had every bullet and fragment ever found matched to his rifle.
Oswald was the only employee inside the building during the shooting to immediately flee the plaza and never return.
Oswald took evasive action by cab to sneak back to his rooming house.
Oswald was ID'd by nearly a dozen witnesses as shooting Officer Tippit and fleeing.
Oswald owned and was in possession of the gun the shells were matched to.
Oswald threw away his jacket between the crime scene and the theater.
Oswald was clearly seen trying to hide from and to dodge passing police.
Oswald was caught red-handed trying to shoot a cop.
Oswald fought police so violently 3 officers were injured just disarming him.
Oswald observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop-killing.
Oswald refused to cooperate with any investigator.
Oswald even convinced his own brother he was guilty.
Oswald turned down help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association.
Oswald was only interested in a lawyer he'd never met living in another state who specialized in left-wing causes.
Oswald just shrugged a hollow, rambling, unsurprised, evasive reply when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?"
But... he didn't own a radio, thus completely clearing him, and the assassin was obviously somebody else.
@@aaronz7056 they do not and never did have any actual proof Oswald owned any gun at all. The employees were alL over the outside of the Book Depository. Many people had left. They found at least 3 guns at the Depository. From Friday until late Saturday, the reports said the rifle used by Oswald was a Mauser. Late Saturday or early Sunday, the FBI filed a report that they could not find any prints at all on the rifle. After Oswald was killed, agents went to the mortuary where they had Oswald's body and got prints from his hands. Suddenly, Monday the FBI had prints on the rifle. As for the Tippet shooting they had witnesses testify they saw two people shoot Tippet. They found ammo on scene from a revolver and an automatic. Oswald was said to have a revolver. There was a cop that came to the Tippet scene and showed a film crew Owalds wallet. And this was before Oswald was even arrested. Oswald was set up and killed no one that day
@@gwfortenberry1579 A) No doubt you will of course now explain for us how many of those OTHER employees:
- were INSIDE the building during the shooting
- lied to police about their whereabouts during the shooting
- took evasive action to get to their other guns
- were ID'd by witnesses as shooting a cop
- were plainly seen trying to hide from and to dodge passing police
- were caught red-handed trying to shoot a second cop
- fought police so violently 3 officer were injured just disarming them
- observed, "Well, they say it only takes a minute to die" after asking about the penalty for cop killing
- acted so smug they even convinced their own brothers they were guilty
- turned down help from the President of the Dallas Bar Association
- were only interested in lawyers they'd never met living in other states who specialized in left-wing causes
- just shrugged hollow, rambling replies when asked on live TV, "Did you shoot the President?"
Was it all of them or just most of them?
B) B.S. they found 3 guns, they found the Carcano, to which every bullet and fragment ever found were matched.
Officers freely admitted to initially misidentifying the unfamiliar Carcano at first, big deal.
But, of course, it's MUCH more likely that somebody left multiple guns, or the wrong kinds of guns, lying around the crime scene for an army of police and FBI agents to swiftly find...
c) Print was latent, for goodness' sake, and the funeral home story is implausible garbage.
Want to keep you "coup" top secret? No problem! Just help yourself to the rifle cops have already told the public is the murder weapon, take it to the funeral home, make a huge spectacle out of throwing the staff out (thus confirming to every last one of them a conspiracy is operating), shove the gun into the corpse's hands, and be sure to leave plenty of ink on those hands for the morticians to have to clean up, thus providing even MORE cast-iron evidence for them a conspiracy is operating...
d) No, Clemons, whose words make it clear enough she saw at best a shooter and a bystander who was almost certainly either Cimino or Benavides, didn't even see the actual shooting, and other witnesses much closer to Tippit than her firmly said there was but one shooter. In fact, Oswald was ID'd by ten witnesses as shooting Tippit and fleeing, and he owned and was in possession of the gun the shells were matched to, never mind his own damning actions in the minutes after Tippit's death.
Oswald was using more than one kind of ammo, big deal. You can do that with that type of revolver.
e) Wallet seen being handled in the film is almost certainly just Callaway's but even if it wasn't, so what? Many people have more than one wallet. How does finding a wallet in any way negate the evidence he shot Tippit.
f) No doubt you will of course ALSO now explain how the people "setting up" Oswald could possibly have known:
- he would show up unexpectedly at the Paine house Nov. 21, otherwise they can't pretend he smuggled the rifle Nov. 22
- he would suddenly possess a package the next morning AT ALL
- he would not just stand out on the sidewalk during the parade
- he would lie to police
- no unidentified persons would ever be seen inside the building by anybody
- he would immediately leave the crime scene
- he would decide at the last minute to put a jacket on AT ALL
- there is any point in attacking a cop on a public street since Oswald is already going to be sought for Kennedy anyway
- there is any logic in attacking a cop since anything going wrong here will just end up confirming a conspiracy exists
- an imposter who looks so much like him he is guaranteed to fool the nearly dozen witnesses who ID Oswald needs to be hanging around 10th and Patton
- a cop is guaranteed to be driving there at exactly the right moment to plausibly place Oswald there
- the imposter, as he attacks the cop, can be certain Oswald is still at liberty somewhere
- the imposter can be certain Oswald has no alibi
- the imposter can be certain Oswald has come to that general neighbourhood at all
- the cop won't simply outdraw and capture the imposter, blowing the whole plot
- no other cop will capture the imposter, blowing the whole plot
- a shoe store clerk will happen to have his radio on
- the clerk will happen to hear the APB on the assassination suspect
- the clerk will happen to see Oswald in his doorway
- the clerk will happen to see Oswald plainly trying to hide from passing police
- the clerk will be suspicious enough to follow Oswald down the street
- the clerk will plainly see Oswald duck into a theater to dodge more passing police
- the clerk will be suspicious enough to call in a tip to police
- Oswald will agree to help frame himself with his actions in the theater
- he will never attempt to blow any conspiracy framing him to ANY cop, any member of his family, to the President of the Dallas Bar Association, or to a live TV audience of millions
- the Dallas PD is guaranteed to be on board for the successful escape from justice of the "real killers" of a decorated brother officer with a wife and 3 children
- they are guaranteed to safely approach scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, pathologists, ballistics experts, photographers, x-ray technicians, Oswald family members, whole commissions, lawyers, senators, congressmen, the D.A., the Chief Justice, etc., and persuade them all to obey illegal orders to commit crimes, trust each other implicitly, assist a bloody coup, and bend over backwards making themselves all eternally loyal accessories to murder and treason...
@@aaronz7056 Go away dummy.
@@aaronz7056 You’re an unhinged weirdo. Parroting the Warren Report like you wrote it. Please. Your act is tired.
Please don’t say your stating facts and then state opinion or mistruths . Oswald was not in Mexico .Hoover said so to LBJ the next day ! Someone purporting to be Oswald was there but it’s not LHO. The Mexican official in the embassy denied Oswald was the man who spoke to her saying he was LHO. The CIA records that say it’s him are simply restating what the person claiming to be Oswald said. The CIA don’t want to release this information because it shows someone pretending to be LHO, which is more suspicious regarding others involvement than LHO going to Mexico to get a visa and them observing this.
That’s what troubled Hoover initially and led to the Warren Commission appointed by LBJ to control what questions could be asked and what information would be published.Hoover new other agencies were involved listen to his telephone calls to LBJ. They knew they had to quickly limit the blame on LHO. They essentially say so after a couple of days after the assassination.
To say LHO was not debriefed is untrue he spent 2 days in Rotterdam before returning to the US , he gave them his intel , what else was he doing ship spotting?
Please don’t accept what “ experts “ tell you without researching it yourself. Most people have an angle to sell a book.
Cool.
Thanks for your perspective.
But you're kind of in need of a new facts update per Mark Grubert of America's Untold Stories.
Lee Harvey Oswald was an excellent student .
Super smart.
He ran for class president.
He was an incredibly avid reader .
Former classmate's recently in the past few years have talked about how smart he was l.
He has a bad boy side. It was mainly bullied for his smarts and his size. that's why he left school.
He also was an avid Kennedy fan of this was reported by several people including when he was in Russia and New Orleans.
You seemed tiptoe around the obvious fact that the CIA was involved involved.
Also the Las Vegas shooter they now know did not shoot all those people that were helicopters flying there was a shooting at another hotel a mile away there were three helicopters people were shot at the top of their heads people were shot in parking lots he couldn't have reached and it was a staged said when the cops got there and there were two women died within 2 months of that shooting so you guys need to quit reading from the CIA playbook .
Ask sometimes remind me of a time line for CNN reporting it's julll
you were making sense...until the weirdo Trump type nonsense about vagas.
Mark Groubert's A.U.S. record:
a) gives his middle finger to the family of a decorated police officer who lost his life in the cause of his duty as he accuses the man without evidence of being a conspirator so long as it suits his sick "theories"
b) does the same to Ruth Paine as though just gagging to get his despicable butt sued for slander
c) happily hawks books written by that unspeakable monster Alex Jones
d) ignores and contradicts actual evidence in favour of lecturing the "Deep State" is out to get us all...
@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz
Try doing some research. Those choppers took off from a private location just blocks away from the Mandalay Bay Hotel, and they were recorded on video at the scene. Witnesses also saw military dressed shooters at the opposite end of the parking lot firing into the crowd. There was a simultaneous assault rifle attack at another nearby hotel.
Thus guy makes too many excuses
0:29:50 - WOW! ". . . for NEVER releasing HARDLY ANYTHING EVER. Is that a "triple negative" or a "quadruple negative"!?
For the interested reader that has to suffer through coma man's cut and paste hooey. Let start with hi first too often repated hooey: First of all, NO BULLET fragments matched the rifle found at the TSBD. That myth began with the FBI testing, which they clearly fudged with confusing language. In simple terms 'the FBI FOUND NO MATCH" (any deviations meant a non match, they claimed a high degree of similarity...lol..but they wanted the reader to believe it meant a match. )Second, was the loooong debuked hooey from the HSCA, and neutron activation testing, which claimed it had proved a match, this hooey, even G. Robert Blakey, the head of the HSCA at that time in the late 70s accepted the conclusions...he has since come out publicly saying it is "junk science" after scientific papers coming out in journals proved it. so the question is not was there matches, to witch the emphatic scientific conclusion is "NO", but why so few bullets or fragments were said to be found. the answer is because they would not have matched the TSBD carbine so had to disappear. Its hard to understand the facts when some wirdo keeps reaping hooey from decades ago (despite his lies being pointed out again and again with citations)....like he has been in a coma since 1964..lol
What a load… what do you call it, “hooey”?
Your use of the non-word “hooey” exposes your lack of common sense and ability to objectively look at the mountain of evidence that proves Oswald was guilty.
@@jetcat132 So....your oh so in-depth critique of MY FACTS, is to take issue with my vocabulary????...LMFAO . Once again, we have some poor weirdo repeating a mantra (usually first written by another extreme weirdo, like Vince "the nut case criminal stalker and woman beater" Bugliosi) but unable to deal with facts...but there is a "mountain of evidence? Is there? If there was, as I commented below, why do all the legal experts (who I cited by name) most familiar with the evidence against Lee Oswald all coming out across the decades claiming that LHO could never have been convicted in a real court? How does that fact, have anything to do with me and my 'common sense". or do you even understand the idea of facts and evidence? It sure doesn't sound like it.
@@jetcat132 So....your oh so in-depth critique of MY FACTS, is to take issue with my vocabulary????...LMFAO . Once again,... we have some poor weirdo repeating a mantra (usually first written by another extreme weirdo, like Vince "the nut case criminal stalker and woman beater" Bugliosi) but unable to deal with facts...but there is a "mountain of evidence? Is there? If there was, as I commented below, why do all the legal experts (who I cited by name) most familiar with the evidence against Lee Oswald all coming out across the decades claiming that LHO could never have been convicted in a real court? How does that fact, have anything to do with me and my "common sense". or do you even understand the idea of facts and evidence? It sure doesn't sound like it.
@@jetcat132 So....your oh so in-depth critique of MY FACTS, is to take issue with my vocabulary????...LMFAO . Once again,.. we have some poor weirdo repeating a mantra (usually first written by another extreme weirdo, like Vince "the nut case criminal stalker and woman beater" Bugliosi) but unable to deal with facts...but there is a "mountain of evidence? Is there? If there was, as I commented below, why do all the legal experts (who I cited by name) most familiar with the evidence against Lee Oswald all coming out across the decades claiming that LHO could never have been convicted in a real court? How does that fact, have anything to do with me and my "common sense". or do you even understand the idea of facts and evidence? It sure doesn't sound like it.
Please see the Daniel Sheehan lectures to get what actually happened
0:39:15 - "the pistol". Why would Oswald ask the cab driver to take him to tye 500 block on "South Beckley"? Why would he change his mind and ask to be dropped near his "Rooming House"? The short taxi ride was perhaps long enough for Oswald to realise that he had been "set up", and that his "rendezvous" at the Texas Theatre might be a deadly ambush. So, the pistol he did not want to carry that morning at the TSBD was now essential for his "protection".
"I AM NOT RESISTING, I AM NOT RESISTING" --->"I'M A PATSY"--->Killed the next day by Jack Ruby who eventually confirmed this...All notes destroyed by the Dallas cops. trace it back to George de Mohrenschildt a now known CIA asset. "DEFECTED" to USSR (likely as as double agent as many did under now known CIA operation"--->He played both sides. It all stated as a young boy in the air national guard with David Ferry. It's all there right in front of us. You just have to weed out all he bogus far fetch conspiracy speculations..Focus on FACTS and the truth is there.
I don't think he got into that taxi. He walked from where he shot the officer to the theater. 💋
@@lisacesari89 I meant the taxi ride from the Greyhound station to the corner of N. Beckley St. and W. Neely St. 😊
@@ulicadlugaHistory Channel website:
At 12:47 p.m. Oswald entered a taxi driven by William Wayne Whaley at the Greyhound bus terminal. Whaley opened the back door for his passenger, but Oswald said he wanted to sit in the front seat-a common practice in the Soviet Union, where the former U.S. Marine had defected in 1959. Oswald told him to take him to the five hundred block of North Beckley. While Oswald was riding in the cab, police once again broadcast a description of the shooter to all cruisers. Whaley, who had not yet heard news of the shooting, asked his passenger about all the police sirens. Oswald did not respond. He rode the entire way in silence. The driver later told investigators he thought Oswald was “a wino two days off the bottle.”
After the two-and-a-half-mile ride Oswald asked the driver to drop him off at Beckley and Neely, about a ten-minute walk from his boarding house. Why not have the driver take him right to his house? Oswald likely feared that police would have already identified him as the killer and were speeding to his room.
He took evasive action to get to his rooming house because he didn't want to be followed and he wanted to be sure cops were not there already after his absence from the Depository was noticed. The idea he was "set up" is implausible and laughable.
0:38:18 - "Patsy". The definition of "Patsy" surely is "a person who is framed for the misdeeds of others". The only interpretation of Oswald's words can be that he, at least, admitted to being "involved". Admittedly, he could be referring to being "framed" by the DPD. But why would the DPD want to "frame" him?
And why, before the press conference did Oswald not name the forces behind making him a "Patsy"?
Perhaps he was too fearful of naming them (it)?
He was waiting for someone to turn up to say he is one of us he's ok let him go
If you could have been bothered to watch the entire clip before letting Oswald (caught red-handed trying to murder a police officer) off the hook, you would have seen he only says he is a patsy in relation to being hassled by cops for having lived in Russia, and he never attempted to blow any conspiracy framing him to ANY cop, any member of his family, to the President of the Dallas Bar Association, or to a live TV audience of millions, never mind there's a mountain of evidence for his guilty anyway.
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Around the 21st minute he actually said he believed that Oswald shot and killed Kennedy 😂😂 I doubt that anyone on the Warren commission even believed that story after they completed it and that's the truth
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Truth is there is a mountain of hard, credible and demonstrable evidence for his guilt.
@@aaronz7056I have a flying car that can travel throughout the galaxy for you my friend
@keith9145 The very man who commissioned the WR didn’t believe it.
@@pauldavies5611Johnson was notoriously paranoid, and history says that he was wrong about a lot of things. Not believing the WC was among them.
@@jetcat132 Specious argument if ever there was one.
Usual jive
I wonder why LHO bought such a lousy weapon. How much more was a good one? They first identified the gun on the 6th floor as a Mauser so they must have swapped it out with Lee's gun.
Maybe they are waiting for Ruth Paine to die before they release the files
Mrs. Paine took in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband and tried to help them get back on their feet, and for that she's had to spend 60 years watching armchair detectives like yourself happily opine away without evidence she is a conspirator, murderer, and traitor so long as it suits your sick "theories." Hope you are proud of yourself.
There is no way Oswald shot JFK
Way. ✔️
He most certainly did
@@jetcat132 Yeah, NO. 💯
@@lisacesari89 Lol okay. It must be nice to ignore all that evidence. Go ahead, make a reply and post a cute little emoji to go with it! Yay!
It still doesn’t change the evidence.
@@jetcat132 WHOSE Evidence? That's the ticket. Get your Cognitively Biased head out of the sand. Gracias. 🙏
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