Man if those soldiers just backed the fuck up and actually contemplated what the hell they were doing, shelling the parliament it might have not ended in such a clusterfuck, I wonder when the "orders are orders" mentality, at what point would they just stop and rethink their life choices. Reminds me of clone troopers in star wars fighting they're inhibitor chips
Its more that people never learned from ww2 and how hitler took power. The education system only talks about how hitler is bad and the different battles. Nothing is really about the environment that gave hitler the ability to take power and how he later concentrated power to himself. History is not taught in a way to make sure we will not repeat its mistake instead more about dates and events. This is why we always will live in a endless cycle of histories mistakes repeating itself. Russians thinks a lot times that they can never be nazis because they defeated the nazis and its just a western thing while reality is it can happen to any nation given the right environment but peoples national arrogance leads to them not being able to self reflect. I people/leaders have the ability to self reflect we would live in a much better world but that is not how reality works. Evert single nation works the exact same way, it can always happen to any other nation but never their own nation.
What's also interesting is that Richard Nixon predicted this in a interview before he passed. "The ideals of freedom and democracy are now on trial in Russia."
Yeltsin was president before the fall of the soviet union. Russia was already a country under the soviet union, like England is a country in the United Kingdom. Anyways the guy that sent tanks to a democratically elected deputies was not the good guy in that story.
I'm sorry highlighting Ukraine, Georgia and Armenia as "far more democratic" simply because you like them is hilarious. They can NOT be grouped together with the ACTUALLY far more democratic Baltics. They were all very illiberal democracies to begin with. Armenia in particular was barely democratic at all. It has gotten better but still has a very long way to go. Georgia's already illiberal democracy as a whole is under a lot of threat. It has become a showdown arena of Western influenced population vs Russian influenced government. Azerbaijan, which you clearly don't like, is not democratic at all now but was as "democratic" as the other Caucasian states at the beginning. Ukraine had been an arena for the fight of influences for quite a while and now that it's under the invasion, it has completely abandoned its democracy, at least "for now".
@@manilpwn maybe it's hard to tell through text but I am chill, or so I think. I sincerely hope you're not trying to dismiss my input to the subject by convincing yourself I'm "not chill"~ peace ✌️
@@HOPEfullBoi01 sorry if i misread you but it has nothing to do with whether I 'like' those countries or not. it's a single frame in my attempt at humorously breaking down a complex situation. should i devote any attention to the highlighted countries, it will detract from the value of the videos because ultimately it is irrelevant. i've opted to highlight them because, from a modern standpoint, the past thirty years has shown the highlighted countries to be most associated with the west/freedom/democracy and those remaining uncoloured are not
@@manilpwn I think I understand what you mean here but I would still say there's 1 inconsistency: Armenia. Similar to other trans-Eurasian countries like Georgia, Turkey, Cyprus (and UNLIKE Azerbaijan); Armenia does have some sort of Westernist vision and conflict within itself however it never got to shine. Armenia, since the collapse of the USSR, was always officially the ally of Russia and still is even though it very much does see Russia as highly unreliable. It was never directly associated with the West. It is only *liked* a lot in the West thanks to the Armenian diaspora and its lobby in USA and France using turkophobia as a very useful tool to make their voices heard by the people who still see life as some sort of christian imperialism vs islamic imperialism conflict. And no, that is not to claim the certain crimes against then Ottoman Armenians were never committed; on the contrary, they caused all this. I'm sort of on a long tangent here but I hope it makes sense. TLDR: Armenia was never Western, it's simply just liked a lot in influential parts of the West.
Man if those soldiers just backed the fuck up and actually contemplated what the hell they were doing, shelling the parliament it might have not ended in such a clusterfuck, I wonder when the "orders are orders" mentality, at what point would they just stop and rethink their life choices. Reminds me of clone troopers in star wars fighting they're inhibitor chips
It's an interesting psychological thing. I think its related to bystander effect? No one is willing to move until somebody else has done so
Its more that people never learned from ww2 and how hitler took power. The education system only talks about how hitler is bad and the different battles. Nothing is really about the environment that gave hitler the ability to take power and how he later concentrated power to himself.
History is not taught in a way to make sure we will not repeat its mistake instead more about dates and events. This is why we always will live in a endless cycle of histories mistakes repeating itself.
Russians thinks a lot times that they can never be nazis because they defeated the nazis and its just a western thing while reality is it can happen to any nation given the right environment but peoples national arrogance leads to them not being able to self reflect. I people/leaders have the ability to self reflect we would live in a much better world but that is not how reality works.
Evert single nation works the exact same way, it can always happen to any other nation but never their own nation.
Russia have Freedom to begin with?
Kek
What's also interesting is that Richard Nixon predicted this in a interview before he passed. "The ideals of freedom and democracy are now on trial in Russia."
Ah i didn't know that. That's pretty cool
nice videos man, I'm expecting you'll be growing quite a bit :)
Thanks man :)
So basically russia went from a "democracy" to an autocracy?
pretty much.
naah, they never had REAL democracy. Only a slight feint during the Perestroika years. They simply went from Communism to Kleptocracy.
Basically the story yeah
Yeltsin was president before the fall of the soviet union. Russia was already a country under the soviet union, like England is a country in the United Kingdom.
Anyways the guy that sent tanks to a democratically elected deputies was not the good guy in that story.
Indeed. Russia was not sovereign till the collapse and so yeltsins role changed from his time as president under the Soviet
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Thanks :)
das ist nicht bad
Man this is kinda happening over here
Which country man
I'm sorry highlighting Ukraine, Georgia and Armenia as "far more democratic" simply because you like them is hilarious. They can NOT be grouped together with the ACTUALLY far more democratic Baltics. They were all very illiberal democracies to begin with. Armenia in particular was barely democratic at all. It has gotten better but still has a very long way to go. Georgia's already illiberal democracy as a whole is under a lot of threat. It has become a showdown arena of Western influenced population vs Russian influenced government. Azerbaijan, which you clearly don't like, is not democratic at all now but was as "democratic" as the other Caucasian states at the beginning. Ukraine had been an arena for the fight of influences for quite a while and now that it's under the invasion, it has completely abandoned its democracy, at least "for now".
Yeah chill out dude
@@manilpwn maybe it's hard to tell through text but I am chill, or so I think. I sincerely hope you're not trying to dismiss my input to the subject by convincing yourself I'm "not chill"~ peace ✌️
@@HOPEfullBoi01 sorry if i misread you but it has nothing to do with whether I 'like' those countries or not. it's a single frame in my attempt at humorously breaking down a complex situation. should i devote any attention to the highlighted countries, it will detract from the value of the videos because ultimately it is irrelevant. i've opted to highlight them because, from a modern standpoint, the past thirty years has shown the highlighted countries to be most associated with the west/freedom/democracy and those remaining uncoloured are not
@@manilpwn I think I understand what you mean here but I would still say there's 1 inconsistency: Armenia. Similar to other trans-Eurasian countries like Georgia, Turkey, Cyprus (and UNLIKE Azerbaijan); Armenia does have some sort of Westernist vision and conflict within itself however it never got to shine. Armenia, since the collapse of the USSR, was always officially the ally of Russia and still is even though it very much does see Russia as highly unreliable. It was never directly associated with the West. It is only *liked* a lot in the West thanks to the Armenian diaspora and its lobby in USA and France using turkophobia as a very useful tool to make their voices heard by the people who still see life as some sort of christian imperialism vs islamic imperialism conflict. And no, that is not to claim the certain crimes against then Ottoman Armenians were never committed; on the contrary, they caused all this. I'm sort of on a long tangent here but I hope it makes sense.
TLDR: Armenia was never Western, it's simply just liked a lot in influential parts of the West.