Top 10 When Grime Got Real Grime Beef (Reaction)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- EP275: Smokey'sGgrime Files - American Rapper Reacts To Top 10 When Grime Got Real Grime Beef (Reaction)
This is episode 275 and today we have one suggested that I check out. Top 10 When Grime Got Real Grime Beef. Let's see how this one goes.
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Ghetto fresh out of Jail was scary... Bashy was one of my favourite MCs aswell but he got the hell out of there when Ghetts started wilin' out... 'where's Carlos!?' Bashy redeemed himself though, check out 'Bashy vs Demon - Rounds 1 to 4' a dope underated clash... You might recognise Bashy aka Ashley Thomas from a few American shows, he's a successful actor...
I gotta watch the battle in full. Where's Carlos is too funny.
I remembered him from Top Boy I made a post about it like damn there's so many grime legends on top boy doing great acting.
@Bless I just saw man in intent 2 😂
@Bless 😂😂😂 where’s Carlos
@Bless 😂😂😂 titch is a real wild man
*PART 2* (Had to split to post):
39:44 - Sound of the decks getting thrown as soon as the DJ went to spin the tune. No grime on Deja for years after this. 🤣
42:08 - Jerome is Gods Gift. (Gods Gift was on the Crazy T vs Dizzee set).
43:55 - This was around the time Nasty Jack (N.A.S.T.Y Crew) was in beef with Wiley. NJ had a lyric that went 'Armz, I love armz, when I come round I bring dem da armz'. Wiley remixed that bar in their beef.
That's what he means when he says 'Jerome, you don't really want arms, NOT Jack'.
_Nasty Jack explains the Wiley beef in a interview called 'NASTY JACK Talks HISTORY OF NASTY CREW, WILEY CLASH, TRIM Vs STORMIN + MORE' at_ 59:17 - 1:30:25
_That interview talks about all the events that lead up to this set and touches on what Wiley says._
*FUN FACT: This set was on Christmas Day - imagine turning on the radio on Christmas Day to hear Wiley cussing you out.*
Listen to a 20 second clip called 'DONT FORGET (ON CHRISTMAS DAY)' - it is too funny.
Wiley saying 'It's Rinse 100.3 in the day time, Christmas Day... like I care. You get me, like I even care what day it is. 'old tight Bashy SUCK YOUR MUM on Christmas Day, 'old tight Lethal, you can suck your mum too, on Christmas Day. That's how I feel on Christmas Day. 'old tight all them people at home smiling yeh! suck your mum, take the smile off your face NOW'.
50:45 - this clip here is ICONIC, it get's put at the start of so many dubs. Especially instrumental dubs when producers are going back and forth.
51:15 - Mucky Wolfpack is the full name of the crew, I'm pretty sure that was still Gods Gift on the mic when that was said.
53:00 - When he says Ace he is referring to 'Major Ace' (RIP) (he was a member of Special Delivery alongside Bashy) (he was also a member of Pay As U Go Cartel with Wiley, Bashy, Gods Gift, Maxwell D, Breeze, Riko Dan, Flow dan, Dogzilla DJ Target, DJ Slimzee, Geenus and a few others).
53:55 - more of a blanket is what I be hearing 😶
55:28 - that is Marcus Nasty.
56:49 - Background on Ghetts vs Bashy:
Ghetts was fresh out of jail and was going to a video shoot for Mr Wong on an estate in Peckham. Ghetts bumped into Carlos on the estate, Carlos was Ghetts' next door in jail. Bashy and Ghetts clashed at the shoot. When Bashy said some stuff at the end of the clash that Ghetts wasn't happy with, he started asking 'Where's Carlos?' because Carlos could deny the allegations Bashy was making.
Ghetts also says 'Ask Stanaman', Stanaman being Bashys cousin. Stanaman was/is close to Ghetts and was in jail with Ghetts. Stana went jail for shooting at the police (hit one and shot at another two) while trying to flee from a shooting at a barber shop in 2006. He didn't realise he was under surveillance at the time, so when he shot up the barber shop, they were on him right away. Stana got 6 years IPP (Imprisonment for Public Protection) (6 years minimum up to indefinite depending on when he was deemed 'no longer a threat to the public'). He got freed in 2018.
^ This is why in 'Ghetts - Fire In The Booth PT2' Ghetts says 'I know people that shoot at po-lice' at 8:30 in.^
There is a documentary about Stana called 'Ex-Con Tracks Down Officer He Shot | Sorry I Shot you | Only Human' where he tries to track down the officer to apologise.
57:36 - Ghetts didn't see Carlos again for a decade after this clash and then they bumped into each other in a rave.
58:27 - That is G Man (Slew Dem) - He hasn't been on music in a few years but recently has been on a few sets with Chronik (Slew Dem).
Check out - 'Jack Dat With G Man & Chronik - PyroRadio'.
58:50 - 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1:03:33 - Ratchet = knife.
1:04:08 - Probably my favourite diss of all time. It is 9 mins long called 'Stormin' Slewin Trim - 9 Minute War Dub'
The imitation fo Trims grunts crack me up every time
The back story makes it even better, Nasty Jack explains the background to the Stormin vs Trimm beef in that long interview ''NASTY JACK Talks HISTORY OF NASTY CREW, WILEY CLASH, TRIM Vs STORMIN + MORE' at 44:39-59:17.
1:04:31 - Dan (Dan Gorgan) = G (Jamaican term meaning THE guy).
1:05:05 - the comments about Stormin's face were always so fucked, Stormin legit had cancer on his face. RIP Stormin.
1:06:35 - The point Stormin pulled out a gun and starts pointing at everyone at radio 🤣
*RIP STORMIN*
1:08:11 - This is the story in Aiya Napa I was talking about with Marcus Nasty.
(the other famous story in Napa was when Dizzee got stabbed and hospitalised for pinching Lisa Mafia's bum, this is when Wiley and Dizzee fell out and haven't spoke since).
1:11:14 - ye
1:12:23 - No evidence for it but people love to say it. I personally don't think so.
1:12:32 - That's Stormin in the background. This track is called 'Marcus Nasty & Stormin - Industry Exposure 2' - Marcus doesn't rap but he still hopped on beats to get his side of the story across. (there is also an Industry Exposure 1 where he talks some mad shit).
Crazy I've reached back deep enough I've seen him perform as God's Gift to now know he should Play that Wiley LOL.
I pulled the interview. Also, I've listened to enough of this now I knew how to read the arms bar. I would've been upset if those were used on me.
LMAO NJ did exactly what I would do if I woke up on Christmas and I was on that kind of time. Wiley had to be addressed.
This quote is God-tier activity. Wiley had to be seen if he started it like this.
'It's Rinse 100.3 in the daytime, Christmas Day... like I care. You get me like I even care what day it is. 'old tight Bashy SUCK YOUR MUM on Christmas Day, 'old tight Lethal, you can suck your mum too, on Christmas Day. That's how I feel on Christmas Day. 'old tight all them people at home smiling yeh! suck your mum, take the smile off your face NOW
I can see that clip being used on sends and dubs "Levels is very high" is too iconic and encapsulates a lot in a few words.
Wait that is Jerome himself saying the levels thing. Two extra cool points goes to Jerome for this flex.
The crazy thing is Carlos only got called because Bashy questioned his manhood with the gay joke bars. That Caribbean culture in him said no sir not I matter of fact "Where's Carlos!!!!"
Stanaman doc pulled too. H with the Deep Cuts today. (days later response lol. )
Ratchet = knife. = Say wot.
This is what my American brain says to this but nice to know the holes are from another weapon. I thought the burner for sure.
Stormin' Slewin Trim - 9 Minute War Dub(tried to listen to this. 00:15 in I knew it deserved an entire video. Top of the list energy)
Stormin was next level I didn't know he pulled out. i thought he was just making the threat.
Dizzee got stabbed 4 times for a bum pinch. Man paid a high price. He saw "The Wood" (an American movie) and lost his mind.
Industry exposure coming soon.
@@Jurnalist_ 🙏
Most of these clashes were filmed on a brick. Not a mobile...an actual brick.
It looks like it like damn the quality degradation and compression from YT is just abuse on the footage.
I'm all for more "grime files". Can't wait to follow this!
More grime files coming my g. TY.
Mayday spray day was hard back then especially young one and flamer.
They was arguing because young dot had a similar name to young one and flamer didn't like that.
*PART 1* (Had to split to post):
Lol I only found this vid you're reacting to when I was looking for the Munsketeers audio.
2:23 - YES Young Dot was Dot Rottens old name. This was from his early days, when he used to make some sick beats (05-07). He now raps under the name Dot Rotten and produces under the name Zeph Ellis. (He raps on the first set of the F Radio DVD and sends shots at Wiley).
DEFINITELY haffi check out Dot Rotten vs P Money.
8:43 - Big up JoSoSick each and every.
10:43 - 'prick'
12:06 - got to big up Logan OLM for yeeting Tiff out of there and getting in the middle.
12:58 - DJ puts videographer in a headlock.
13:26 - He deleted his socials, got kicked off the station and the story ended up on BBC news.
14:12 - Yeah this is it, no clue what the DJ thought he was thinking of trying to step to a female with that energy.
15:00 - RIP Depz 1000x
15:59 - Villain vs Chucky is a SICK clash (search for 'CHUCKY VS VILLAIN', its on the WHOS DA BOSS channel)
(Villain used to be in Invasion Alert when that was a thing but is from London, Bow E3).
16:06 - That's Webster, he spits a bit and runs WHOS DA BOSS. (basically the equivalent of what Jammer is to LOTM).
17:17 - 'OH YEAAAH' - was Jaykae's thing (like his version of Double's 'bud-a-bup-bup'). Jaykae and Deppy were super close and like brothers.
17:30 - because WHOS DA BOSS is like LOTM of the north (although there have been London MCs on there and clashes with just London MC's on (like Cadell vs Novelist (another sick clash)). Webster is to WDB like Jammer is to LOTM. This beef happened on a video shoot for a WDB music video.
Other sick WDB clashes:
XP vs Firedon
and
Depzman VS Brutez (the first ever WDB clash)
27:27 - Love the way every time there is beef, Tempz is so quick to try reach for a bottle. It's jokes.
29:18 - Banging Tempz in the Slew Dem green room (even though knuckles was Slew Dem) with Chronik next to you wouldn't have been a good idea. (Chronik when he had dreads no less). Also Jammer does a sick job of keeping them apart. Jammer is so skinny, he has no right to be able to hold back Tempz like that 🤣
29:58 - that's Chronik btw.
31:44 - 💯 I came to the same conclusion (but for different reasons) after certain pictures were presented at LOTM 8 of a certain MCs mrs sucking off a certain MC at the Ten Dixon vs Tana clash....
(I don't spit btw)
36:58 - the full scrap at the end and all the bars are in the full clash is on YT, 'Lord Of The Mics 3 - Lay-Z vs Marger'.
37:09 - It wasn't the fist bar, vid just cut up clips from the clash of the 4th round.
37:31 - innit, she's a baddaz, ultimate demon.
37:48 - It always cracks me up that the 'I don't even want her' bar is what crosses the line. Like nothing before that was worse, but the fact Lay-Z don't want her got Marger in his feelings.
You can't be doing that in Jammers parents' yard like that's disrespectful asf, should have cut the music and taken it outside if anything.
The full video of the last round with the tear up is jokes.
Yeah the part near the end with Trim Frisco and Skepta was about Marcus Nasty and the famous Nappa incident. Marcus was like the Suge Night in grime back then man 😂 there’s mad stories and rumours about him chasing Ghetts and slamming Kano’s head into a fridge after they left nasty crew, cutting jammers locks off and throwing them into the crowd, running after wiley on stage, guy was a madman.
I need to see a doc on Marcus man just seems like a ball of entertainment and drama.
I need to see if I can see if he'll do an interview. 😂
Yeah I grew up in East London, God's Gift was known for putting work in on the street, Wiley is nice on the mic but he's never saying anything to his face, Wiley was known for snitching, lying, running from beef, all sorts.
Yeah Trim and JME had hardest unorthodox flows early the game. President T is another one
Crazy to see that in less than 30 years Grime has so much that has happened.
I always loved that vid of tempz 🤣😂 my man just drapsed man around the room like one rag doll for like 5 minutes 🤣🤣🤣
Ngl i feel bad for dot it just seems like he wasnt as close to others in OG'z and got left out. Man was screaming Blacks and blacks did nuthin 😅
Shoutout to my man in the first clip with the Nokia 3310 camera.. 🤣🤣 Footage was shot in 140p 🤣🤣
Right crazy thing though our eyes used to watch that footage and it was legible to our eyes now its boxes and color smudges 😂
highly recommend "Flirta D: The Guy That Makes Noises"(ruclips.net/video/uBfRpGSztac/видео.html) which is a recent, well put together Grime Documentary on an MC who has unique flows, rhyming patterns and ways of MCing. He also delves into the history of Grime and gives a good explanation on how it came about
THIS
Tab open you guys have no idea how much I appreciate when you pull the link to the vid for me.
I really understand you have taken the time. Bless.
@@Jurnalist_ Haha no problem brother cant believe you have all them tabs open honestly. Do you just click through them when youre doing reactions?
@@nahman34 yes and no. There’s windows you don’t see each windows is a region I cover on the channel so I go between windows and click on tabs to pick new videos. Once I get through these tabs I’ve got a written list I’ve started with who gave the suggestion and what songs.
@@Jurnalist_ thats mad but if it works it works haha respect bro keep it up
R.I.P DEPZ
Yo, had to do the edit trick AND split them into two to get it to post on this video.
You found the play. saving the long form comments from you for last but will get to those today for sure.
Rip depzman died way to young
Big facts. That’s also why I didn’t make that many jokes or go to hard because I know this activity kind of leads us to losing the Bull too early.
the origin of grime involve 3 major people, wiley dizzee & megaman. dizzee was interviewed (forgot by who) and he mentioned if the interviewer wants to dive deep into the origins of grime then he needs to interview megaman & wiley
I’ve not heard MM name yet in all my grime research can you point me in the right direction?
@@Jurnalist_ MegaMan was the head of The So Solid Crew... so check out So Solid's songs... Oh No, Dilemna, 21 Seconds, They Don't Know and Ride With Us. Heartless Crew and Pay As You Go Cartel also form the foundations of GRIME... check out Heartless Crew Anthem and Pay As You Go's Champagne Dance...
@@ProductOfAnEmpire so solid, heartless and pay as you go were alll garage crews....it was when memebers broke away from garage, grime formed but back then it didnt have a name. Check out Wiley - Wot you call it for one of the earlier grime vids.
@@Jurnalist_ also check out ghetto dun know already remix ft megaman, frisco, chip & devlin
@@Jurnalist_ Kano name checks Megaman in 3 Wheel Ups too…
16 bars in effect
might just upset a man’s lyrics
Take this pen to your neck
And just Joe Pesci man with it
Cash rules everything around me
That's word to a Method Man lyric
Yeah, I roll deep in the East
But I still might Mega Man with it
How many clashes has Wiley done lmao
Man has warred the entire scene at one point. The reason I say “ there levels are very high!” Are because Wiley was on the radio one Christmas morning telling everyone to sym and someone took offense and pulled up to that radio station and beat him up live on the air took the mic and spoke into the radio and said “the levels are very high.😂😂😂
@@Jurnalist_ gotta respect it though he def knew he was gonna get jumped talking like that on live air
Where’s Carlos?
Naw naw where’s Carlos 😂
Chip vs bugzy beef. All the tunes in order. Full songs
ruclips.net/p/PLwopONwiafbNxlHQiqnMWDxTyMfu7FUrJ
The Lords work was done on this day. TY.