Eric Porter was THE perfect Moriarty. He looks like he was torn straight from the pages and brought to life. He's even got the right hairstyle, posture, voice, hands and even the long fingernails the professor was described as having. It's uncanny.
@@gregfam6250 just watched enola holmes 2, i need to thank that movie His Moriarty was so bad that i ended up looking clips from the jared harris version and then ended up finding this exquisit Moriarty
When Moriarity reaches under his jacket and Holmes reaches for his gun, Moriarity pauses and gives Holmes a split second, priceless look that says "Don't be so stupid!" before pulling out his little notebook. Eric Porter played that moment to perfection!
Like the way Eric Porter subtly plays the way Moriarty oscillates his head, as described in the original text. A really fine interpretation of this classic confrontation, without being overdone.
Great scene! As these two Titans, two mighty giants of intellect, face each other. No cheesy music. No quick-cut editing. Yet this sequence absolutely crackles with intense energy. It's like watching a bomb and waiting for it to explode.
This is the first time I've seen this clip. I think it is a testament that I was unable to determine which one was Holmes and which one was Moriarty until Moriarty addressed Holmes by name. Both convey intellect, poise, and decorum.
The sole objective of this series was to remain true to the books. These actors and their setting would appear very different from newer series adaptations because of this first fact - it's true to the books, and secondly, these were actors from theatre and the stage. For an eye-candy or popcorn version, we can watch the BBC series. If you want an accurate adaptation of the books, this series has not yet been surpassed!
While I don’t mind the cartoony-ness of the BBC Sherlock and the Robert Downey Sherlock, I still always found Jeremy Brett’s Sherlock to be just a little more fun and interesting, and the subtle humor and sarcasm are genuinely funny as well.
@@Masterdeber I have to agree with you on this. To add to your list; his laugh is the most genuine I've ever heard, and he makes me laugh along with him.
Eric Porter creates an excellent Moriarity, in comparison to the near parodic figure of Andrew Scott’s Moriarity, Porter projects himself with authority, strong presence and credibility. Porter was an excellent actor indeed.
Absolutely brilliant. Superlative acting, true to ACD, no music and tension so thick you can cut it with a knife. Bravos to Eric Porter and Jeremy Brett.
I may have read this scene wrong, but behind the sheer rage Moriarty was supressing, he seemed to almost be pleading with Holmes to stop, if for nothing else than out of respect for his intelligence. No matter if I've read that wrong or not, either way he had me panicking just listening to him talk. Damn that's a good performance.
Eric Porter really is the best Moriarty. Not a blabbering plot device like the one in the BBC program, not a Bond villain like the one in the Guy Ritchie movies. Exactly what Doyle intended. I love every minute of this performance.
I agree on the BBC series version of Moriarty, who is depicted as some sort of psycho hipster. THIS Moriarty (played by Eric Porter) is right out of Doyle's original canon.
Maybe it’s to rob Moriarty of the honor that is rightfully given to a real Professor, not just a teacher in a school with a degree, but a Teacher who has inspired his students to greatness in a field that is both Wholesome and Beneficial. As an artist in crime, Moriarty has only inspired his students, the other members of his gang, to their own corruption and ultimate destruction. Because Moriarty and his gang have the same Fate. Truly, they died long before Holmes came, Holmes only gets the privilege of putting the last nail in their coffin, as only a genius like Holmes can. If Moriarty ever knew happiness, or the love of people who cared about him, he failed to appreciate it, and threw it all away to be the best of a gang of worthless criminals. You can see that he’s not a very happy man. He stopped caring for even the simple things (like grooming his person) long ago. I imagine most of his gang are like him in that respect. And now they’re all scared, because Holmes has got them on the run, and though they are stuck in a corner with no escape, they refuse to surrender. Their only hope is to scare Holmes into backing away. And so, Moriarty’s visit. If they knew they could kill Holmes with ease, they’d have done it already. But they know that Holmes has a better chance of escaping than they do, so they pretend to “warn” him instead.
Ry-Enn Grant SPOILERS********* Possibly because of Holmes and Moriarty’s past history such as Moriarty’s involvement in a case known as The Valley of Fear which resulted in Moriarty murdering a man that Holmes was trying to protect which took place several years before The Final Problem. It was a case in which Holmes took his defeat by Moriarty very personally.
@@brianbommarito3376 @cha5 I think it would be clear to Conan Doyle's British readership at the time that Holmes is only calling Moriaty Mr. because Moriaty is a fraud and a criminal and, we may surmise, probably has no doctorate in reality but forged his qualifications in order to get on the academic career ladder (probably blackmailing, threatening and bribing to get promoted to a Professor, something for which Holmes has contempt). In the UK someone with a PhD who teaches in a university is called Doctor and is referred to as an academic (the academics at our university are good/ bad etc., never professors, which is an Americanism). A Professor in the UK is someone who has been awarded a Professorship, the highest rank an academic can be promoted to. We also have Associate Professors, the next rank down, but they are only allowed to style themselves as Doctor, the same as a lower-ranking academic.
@@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Genius The problem is that Downey doesn't really play Sherlock Holmes. He plays a free, distant version of it. Jeremy Brett is SH as Conan Doyle created him.
I don’t know if it was intentional, but I like how Sherlock doesn’t move from his spot while Moriarty moves around the room. Seems to represent they’re positions in the criminal acts. Sherlock stands his ground intent on interfering with Moriarty’s business while Moriarty tries to move around him but can’t move him or get past.
I always thought that, in the stories, when they described how Moriarty moves his head in a serpent-like fashion, that it seemed pretty silly...until I saw Eric Porter do it. You could actually feel the cold, calculating mind struggling with his absolute hatred of Holmes. This scene is absolutely perfect! Jeremy Brett IS Sherlock Holmes, and Eric Porter IS Professor Moriarty...no others need apply!
There have been many Holmes and a few Moriartys and most of them have been quite good in their own way but these two are the definitive. This Moriarty is also bloody terrifying.
@@Mr.Monta77 i believe sherlock holmes was a chemist, he was working in the college laboratories and make his own researches there, it is obvious that he is a chemist with a knowledge in other things, otherwise he can not take forensic science to that extent ..
@@thegreenpigsnout5579 Not according to the text: Holmes was a consulting detective. Not merely a chemist though he did private chemical experiments. Not the same thing. And I’ve seen no reference to Holmes’ degree as a professional chemist.
Two of the most cunningly brilliant minds in all of the Empire matching wits. Even as they are diametrically opposed to one another, each still has considerable respect for the other. This series was pure art, and Jeremy and Eric were genius in their respective roles.
“All that i have to say has already crossed your mind” “Possibly my answer has already crossed yours” Impactful lines from the two greatest adaptations of Arthur Conan Doyle Sherlock Holmes. Watch the scenes and the intense performances of two completely different interpretations (this and BBC)
And they managed to create this level of tension WITHOUT music, except when Moriarty plucks at the violin string. Beat THAT, Moffat and Gatiss! Don't get me wrong, I like BBC Sherlock too! Don't hurt me!
There is, in my mind, no doubt that the modern 're-working' of the Sherlock Holmes tales are interesting, but absolutely no improvement on the originals, nor, in the case of video or film portrayals, do they come close to the standards of the Granada series.
I liked the film version but the modern film should not be compared too much as much as anyone would, for the warner films takes their game both Sherlock and Moriarty into a new height that diverges from the book and is somewhat of a mixture of the cases from the final problem, the eery but terrifying Valley of Fear, red headed league, Naval Treaty, to the second stain, going even further to his last bow the film is in no way the same as this show which sticks to Sir Arthur’s work almost to a perfect fitting. The Moriarty of the Warner films was a close match though age varies from original it did not lose the sudden threat of Moriarty as based in that universe the narcissism in his character and plans, his sociopathic tendencies and being, his galant look that makes one think of a professor, a man who wears a mask that many would never care to suspect, that Moriarty is the perfect embodiment of Moriarty if he were so bold as to start a war for mere profit; ultimately what makes the book Moriarty so terrifying isn’t merely his involvement with the story of “The Valley of Fear”, nor his henchmen and the secret society he had firmly built throughout his shadowy career but the fact that at the heart of it... he was “Simplicity” embodied; so simple was Moriarty that even Sherlock was shocked at how “simplistic” Moriarty’s moves were that it was to the point of “perfection” every move made to look complex to a fool only to be nothing more but a simple trick that inevitably turned the wheels that much.
The single greatest scene in the best Sherlock Holmes series of all times. Two giants of the acting profession. Two equals with Eric Porter and Jeremy Brett at the top of their game. A brilliant scene with out a false note. Brilliant from beginning to end.
Outstanding acting from two legends. I remember the first time I saw this, and the power hasn't dimmed. The use dialogue and gesture to build the tension just go to show that you don't need to swear and curse, or shed tons of blood, to make a big impact.
:You have placed me in such a position by your continual persecution of me that I am in positive danger of losing my liberty." You should've thought of that before you turned to a life of crime.
Who defines crime? The State! An institution of violence and violation of the liberties of individuals. Crime is an excuse by State authorities (and its puppets like the arrogant, despicable Sherlock Holmes) to persecute highly intelligent, independent persons like Professor Moriarty who refuse to obey the tyrrany of the State and instead live their lives according to their own rules.
iniohos2 and who defines a state? You? My mailman? Us? You have given such a simple answer and turned it into a ridiculous question you speak of intelligence but only a fool would look at things the way you do for there are several points in which your statement would turn against your foolishness if ever there is a man who were to use your fallible reasoning. For if ever there is a man such as Moriarty then there will be many who are similar to him what then would stop them from taking what is owed to you? Your blood? Your sweat? Your hard work? Your own word that can easily be turned against you if not for rules placed upon by society and the state you dare say make excuses? You speak as if these things have meaning to a man like Moriarty who very much uses the system for his own benefits another factor that totally shows how you fail to even see the genius and the true intelligence of this man; & whom, would in no less use easy puppets like you with no difficulty for a puppet master manipulates a puppet perfectly if it were fashioned to his liking.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 many people like moriarity? the whole point is that there are no people like him (or only one), which is why the ordinary sheep have to band together against the big cat (via the establishment of government) in order to avoid being at his mercy.
I could never take any of the villains in the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes films seriously, That and also such things as having Irene Adler working for Moriarty and having Downey hamming it up in drag among other things. For me the best takes on Conan Doyle's Moriarty are Porter here, George Zucco from 1939's 'The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes', 'Jimmy' Moriarty from the BBC's 'Sherlock', and Kim Newman's homage to Conan Doyle's character in his recent pastche novel 'Professor Moriarty: The Hound of the D'Ubervilles'
cha5 I’m sorry “Jimmy” Moriarty from “Sherlock” is a part of your list? I’m sorry but the fact that such a stupid adaptation of Moriarty exists like that of Jimmy in BBC’s Sherlock is beyond me where did this Moriarty come from compare him to the source and he’d be another copy of Jack the Ripper mixed in with Sebastian Moran a total miss to the character that is Moriarty in the books.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 oh but his portrayal was f moriarty in the ‘pool scene’ to me is incredible. I feel like Andrew Scott perfectly captured the quiet danger of moriarty, that cobra-like intensity. The way he could switch from playful to rage to cold-blooded genius makes him my personal favourite moriarty.
This is how you do meetings between these two amazing characters and fantastic actors such tenseness and foil and parry no one has done these parts better for me than Jeremey Brett and Eric Porter
I love Eric Porter's neck spasm at 3:43. He has a way of conveying uncontrollable rage in that moment, as if he is using all his powers from leaping across the room and strangling Holmes. I have watched this scene unfold 4 times by 8 actors over the last few months and this is the closest to the source material, but I can't help but love Andrew Scott and Benedict Cumberbatch.
Brett was born to play Holmes. Mark Gatiss is just a fanfiction writer - nothing original - just a long drawn-out pastiche of the Master, Arthur Conan Doyle.
Great stuff. I would add that Holmes is unusually on the defensive in this scene for one reason - he's never seen the previously mysterious Moriarty, so it's the first time he's had the chance to size him up him in person, while Moriarty has observed the (famous) Holmes from a distance, knows what he looks like, and already knows what to expect when he goes to Baker Street. They're equals, but Holmes looks a bit unnerved and Moriarty has the temporary upper hand because of the particulars of the situation.
Sensational actors perfectly cast breathe life into equally sensational characters. Possibly the greatest protagonists in the annals of literature, the very performances tell that each man knows he has met his match.
It's amazing the vast amount of acting talent the Great Detective inspires. Rathbone, Brett and now Cumberbatch. And yes I should mention Downey as well, even though the movies might be a bit over the top, he's bloody good too.
In the stories by Arthur Conan Doyle Moriarty appears in 'The Final Problem' and is mentioned 'The Empty House' and he has a role in 'The Valley of Fear' (He's offscreen in TVOF but his presence and sense of menace is a constant in that story.) Even after Moriarty's death Holmes respects Moriarty as an enemy even as late as 1902 (One year before his retirement) "If your man is more dangerous than the late Professor Moriarty or the living Col Sebastian Moran, he must be a worthy foe indeed."
You see, THIS is why the Moriarty of this series beats the one in BBC (we'll call that one Jim.) This Moriarty has a reason for what he does; he is a master criminal (that's the whole point) and does it for money and power, and he is brilliant. Jim has no motive nor purpose, which makes it ridiculous that he would've gained the power he had (that takes effort and motive.) Jim's schemes are silly, erratic, and he does whatever the plot demands (like trapping Holmes in a room full of snipers, but entering it himself to allow Holmes to hold him at gunpoint.) I think the BBC series was cool (even though the first episode was by far the best, and the only one I'd recommend) but you guys are right; this beats it by a mile.
+Metal Jacket i believe thats the point. the first mortar while true to ACD's vision is too one diminutional for today. it would run counter to the narrative of the series if jim where like that. instead, what we have is a literal mad obsessed genius which makes him more frightening, and unpredictable. very much like the joker.
j mul I disagree profusely. Moriarty could easily still be an effective criminal mastermind today. There are hundreds of applications to that kind of villain. He could've been the ruthless owner of an expanding energy corporation that's slowly taking over the world, or a war profiteer, or even just an incredibly influential and dangerous politician; kind of like Mycroft, but more wicked. But you see, while Jim may be unpredictable, he isn't exactly frightening. His insanity compelled him to do essentially whatever the plot of each episode needed to progress. The Joker at least had the goal of toppling the system and reducing society to animalistic anarchy, where he knew he would rule; Jim literally has no motivation whatsoever, no driving force that would explain his power and resources. I mean, think about it; he has numerous henchmen working for him, the criminal underworld bows to him, he has extensive knowledge of the system and the way things work, etc. That doesn't come from nowhere. It takes *years* of study and ardous work to get that kind of power and knowledge, and to get it, you need dedication and *motivation,* and a strong one at that. Since Jim has none, it's ridiculous that he has any of it. Hell, it's ridiculous that he hasn't been caught. So, that, in my opinion, is why Jim never stood a chance at filling the role of *Professor* Moriarty.
+Metal Jacket +Metal Jacket A theory I read somewhere but forgot its origin, was that the BBC new Moriarty Jim is actually Professor Moriarty's brother, with the real Professor still being in the shadows. This Jim Moriarty instead being the out of control little brother. Jim being to James Moriarty as Sherlock is to Mycroft. The only thing backing this theory up is that in the story The Final problem, it is mentioned that James Moriarty's brother, also called James, had been trying to salvage his brothers reputation and possibly muddy that of Sherlocks, which is why Watson writes the true account down. So perhaps the out of Character Jim Moriarty is a different character to James Moriarty, who could come up as a master villain. That theory would also explain that Jim wasn't the mastermind behind it all but James, and Jim was just heavily involved in the business and then became obsessed with Sherlock. The drive and planning being done by his other. Probably wont happen but oh well, I would enjoy it!
***** Huh. Now that you mention it, that would be *very* interesting--even though Moriarty's brother was supposed to be a colonel. Still, I like that idea a lot, even though I doubt it's canon.
This truely as a whole is the best most authentic adaptation of Sherlock Holmes, I remember my English teacher showing episodes of this in class as he held it in such high regards for book accuracy. Its the very reason i picked it up when i saw it on dvd many years ago, I'd may get the blu-ray version at some point. I enjoyed the bbc modern take on it and the two Guy Richie movies but this is still to be beaten, less popcorn and more class.
The thing about BBC Sherlock's take on Moriarty is that he seems to be more of an intellectual superior than an equal, always one step ahead of Sherlock and that he seems to be unbeatable. Always toying with him. While here, like in the books, they toy with each other...
I do love how Doyle elaborates on Moriarty and his criminal empire again in 'The Valley of Fear' in which it's revealed just how extensive his organization is and Moriarty's willingness and ruthlessness to commit to something like the killing of one man in a memorable fashion while almost tweeking Holmes's nose in the process.
Eric Porter is a terrific Moriarty and a worthy counterpoint for Brett's Holmes. The idea that Moriarty was the force behind the Red Headed League is a good one, I believe. He had the connections needed in order to find out about the gold, and the resources to ship it out and launder the loot later.
Jeremy Brett plays the character closest to the original Sherlock Holmes of anyone I’ve ever seen play him. I say that having read Ever Sherlock Holmes story and book ever written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Brett assembled a 77-page Holmes dossier filled with every detail about Holmes to be found in the original stories. David Suchet created a similar "users manual" when he researched Hercule Poirot. 😐
+Dear1Stupid1Dog They had class in those days, not like now, when some sweating hulk appears with the sub-machine gun and the belt of bullets slung around his shoulder - no gravitas at all!
Yup, these were the concealed weapons of that day and age. If one RUclips video is to be believed, they held .410 caliber rounds (or at least, one at a time)!
@@DCMarvel2009 Usually just one round: it's all you need to scare some knife-wielding jackass (for gun-toting ones, you might need a pocket revolver.) And of course, you'd likely be out and about with your friends, who may well have similar canes.
They borrow heavily from Doyle's writing, line for line, because their own writing would seem rather conspicuous next to his. That fluent use of language, Holmes' sharp wit and vigilance, as well as the finding of important clues in such seemingly insignificant details cannot be easily replicated by anyone but a true artist.
So many wonderful lines packed into so short a scene. The one which begins, "You know, I'm afraid that in the pleasure of this conversation, I am neglecting business of importance, which awaits me ... elsewhere," should be memorized, ready for use on that one occasion when it would really hit home, and how do the actors manage to avoid blinking for so long? The dialogue, setting and acting beat the ludicrous modern film version hands down. This portrayal is not fantasy - it's reality!
This scene did occur on paper, because a little bit after this encounter, Holmes recounts the entire story in detail of his meeting with Moriarty to Watson.
The only duel that comes close to this for me is the 3rd Doctor and the Master (From dr Who) I know that seems like sacrilege, but it is what I thought as a kid, and still do
Best Holmes/Moriarty duo, no doubt about it... just look at their eyes as they in rather polite manner talk to each other. Holmes with an alert as if expecting an attack of a beast, and Moriarty trying to subdue his beastly nature within... Messrs Brett and Porter, it's a privilege to watch your performance...
This level of verbal discourse is what I look for in characterizations between Reed Richards vs. Dr Doom or Superman vs. Lex Luthor. The Hero as an inconvenience to the Villain who can barley maintain composure over wrath. I know graphic novels/comics are a little off topic but my interest is Character and Conflict-This series is timeless
Wow. Look at the way he subtly flicks his eyes towards the door at 3:40. This is such a great stand-off. They didn't need special effects, music, or jaunty camera angles. You can just feel the tension because of these two extraordinary, unblinking actors. (especially Brett, of course)
One of my most favorite scenes from this series! I absolutely love the face to face steely showdown and the slight unravelling of the brilliant evil genius. Fabulous! Genius! ...and Benedict Cumberbatch is not better. He's brilliant too, and just different. He's a "functioning sociopath" while Jeremy Brett plays a more human Holmes. I love them both but Jeremy Brett's is easier to love :) I love the little shiver as Moriarty's back is turned. Yes, Holmes was frightened, but kept composed. Brill!
I like Benedict cumberbatch But i think he acts too much LGBT Sherlock Holmes I mean he acts like cold blooded woman while Moriarty is the one who's behaving so gayish
When Moriarty mentioned the mighty organisation Holmes with all his cleverness could not realise....was it the early Mafia he hinted at.....? or west midlands serious...? Onyl joking
Absolutely incredible! There's no way Robert Downey Jr.'s gonna beat Jeremy Brett. the actor for Moriarty is perfect. If you read the description of Moriarty in the Final Problem, then watch this, it's perfect. BRAVO!!!
Miiiiight want to delve into the person who posts before saying things like that. I cannot stand at all what Ritchie has done to the characters and Brett for me will ALWAYS be Sherlock Holmes.
This is a fascinating pair of performances...whereas the new movie attempts to show the two as having their primary difference be the nature of their respective psychoses (Holmes: outward insanity, inward respectability/Moriarty: outward respectability, inward insanity), these interpretations show Moriarty as a paranoid control freak who is enraged at Holmes' attempt to challenge him, while Holmes is feeling as much excitement at the prospect of a rival as he is righteous fury.
I have watched I think every version of Mr Holmes , parody and pastiche included , Jeremy Brett is Holmes. There is no better , nor do I think there will be. Benedict Cumberbatch is a great actor and, by God he's close , but Holmes is Jeremy Brett and Jeremy Brett is Holmes.
I never saw this version of Sherlock Holmes and couldnt figure out which was Holmes and Moriarty till one said it themselves. The younger guy looks and sounds more narcissistic than the older guy. it was a funny moment of mine.
Both Sherlock and Professor Moriarty share a relationship forged from hatred and rivalry but they are fascinated with one another's minds because never before have these two foes come across another who has that same brilliance and intellect.
@movisony4 In the book Moriarty's name isn't mentioned in "The Red Headed League" although quite a fair number of Sherlockian scholars Gould, Klinger, and others think Moriarty likely had some involvement in planning it out and finnancing the attempted gold robbery.
'You have less frontal development than I should have expected.' 19th century intellectual insults at their finest.
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Eric Porter was THE perfect Moriarty. He looks like he was torn straight from the pages and brought to life. He's even got the right hairstyle, posture, voice, hands and even the long fingernails the professor was described as having. It's uncanny.
Yes....And the same can be said for Brett as he too looks like has risen straight from the sketches of the book.
having never seen this version i had no idea which was which. i actually thought the fellow in black was sherlock
Yeah it's sad that few modern interpretations seem to give a damn about the actual description from the books.
Yeah and the way he moved his head from side to side like a snake at the end of the red headed league
@@gregfam6250 just watched enola holmes 2, i need to thank that movie
His Moriarty was so bad that i ended up looking clips from the jared harris version and then ended up finding this exquisit Moriarty
When Moriarity reaches under his jacket and Holmes reaches for his gun, Moriarity pauses and gives Holmes a split second, priceless look that says "Don't be so stupid!" before pulling out his little notebook. Eric Porter played that moment to perfection!
Moriarty vs the Smoking man.
Like the way Eric Porter subtly plays the way Moriarty oscillates his head, as described in the original text. A really fine interpretation of this classic confrontation, without being overdone.
In my humble opinion, the two finest examples of Holmes and Moriarty.
Eric Porter looks more accurate to Moriarty's description in the book
Great scene! As these two Titans, two mighty giants of intellect, face each other. No cheesy music. No quick-cut editing. Yet this sequence absolutely crackles with intense energy. It's like watching a bomb and waiting for it to explode.
This is the first time I've seen this clip. I think it is a testament that I was unable to determine which one was Holmes and which one was Moriarty until Moriarty addressed Holmes by name. Both convey intellect, poise, and decorum.
A close encounter of matter and antimatter.
The sole objective of this series was to remain true to the books. These actors and their setting would appear very different from newer series adaptations because of this first fact - it's true to the books, and secondly, these were actors from theatre and the stage. For an eye-candy or popcorn version, we can watch the BBC series. If you want an accurate adaptation of the books, this series has not yet been surpassed!
Two wonderful actors in a superb scene
While I don’t mind the cartoony-ness of the BBC Sherlock and the Robert Downey Sherlock, I still always found Jeremy Brett’s Sherlock to be just a little more fun and interesting, and the subtle humor and sarcasm are genuinely funny as well.
@@Masterdeber I have to agree with you on this. To add to your list; his laugh is the most genuine I've ever heard, and he makes me laugh along with him.
Eric Porter creates an excellent Moriarity, in comparison to the near parodic figure of Andrew Scott’s Moriarity, Porter projects himself with authority, strong presence and credibility. Porter was an excellent actor indeed.
Well spoken
Absolutely brilliant. Superlative acting, true to ACD, no music and tension so thick you can cut it with a knife. Bravos to Eric Porter and Jeremy Brett.
It's not thick enough if the knife cuts through too easily.. lol
I may have read this scene wrong, but behind the sheer rage Moriarty was supressing, he seemed to almost be pleading with Holmes to stop, if for nothing else than out of respect for his intelligence. No matter if I've read that wrong or not, either way he had me panicking just listening to him talk. Damn that's a good performance.
I can see that. If nothing else, he would want to move on from dealing with Holmes and get back to actually doing criminal plots.
In my view, you read it exactly right.
Eric Porter really is the best Moriarty. Not a blabbering plot device like the one in the BBC program, not a Bond villain like the one in the Guy Ritchie movies. Exactly what Doyle intended. I love every minute of this performance.
I agree on the BBC series version of Moriarty, who is depicted as some sort of psycho hipster. THIS Moriarty (played by Eric Porter) is right out of Doyle's original canon.
The two actors are up to each other.
Jeremy Brett and Eric Porter - two fantastic British actors.
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04:40 I like how Holmes deliberately calls him Mr Moriarty instead of Dr or Prof to show that he has lost all admiration for him
I always wondered why he did that, especially since he always refered to him as Professor even after his death
Maybe it’s to rob Moriarty of the honor that is rightfully given to a real Professor, not just a teacher in a school with a degree, but a Teacher who has inspired his students to greatness in a field that is both Wholesome and Beneficial. As an artist in crime, Moriarty has only inspired his students, the other members of his gang, to their own corruption and ultimate destruction. Because Moriarty and his gang have the same Fate. Truly, they died long before Holmes came, Holmes only gets the privilege of putting the last nail in their coffin, as only a genius like Holmes can. If Moriarty ever knew happiness, or the love of people who cared about him, he failed to appreciate it, and threw it all away to be the best of a gang of worthless criminals. You can see that he’s not a very happy man. He stopped caring for even the simple things (like grooming his person) long ago. I imagine most of his gang are like him in that respect. And now they’re all scared, because Holmes has got them on the run, and though they are stuck in a corner with no escape, they refuse to surrender. Their only hope is to scare Holmes into backing away. And so, Moriarty’s visit. If they knew they could kill Holmes with ease, they’d have done it already. But they know that Holmes has a better chance of escaping than they do, so they pretend to “warn” him instead.
Why did he lose respect for him?
Ry-Enn Grant SPOILERS*********
Possibly because of Holmes and Moriarty’s past history such as Moriarty’s involvement in a case known as The Valley of Fear which resulted in Moriarty murdering a man that Holmes was trying to protect which took place several years before The Final Problem.
It was a case in which Holmes took his defeat by Moriarty very personally.
@@brianbommarito3376 @cha5
I think it would be clear to Conan Doyle's British readership at the time that Holmes is only calling Moriaty Mr. because Moriaty is a fraud and a criminal and, we may surmise, probably has no doctorate in reality but forged his qualifications in order to get on the academic career ladder (probably blackmailing, threatening and bribing to get promoted to a Professor, something for which Holmes has contempt).
In the UK someone with a PhD who teaches in a university is called Doctor and is referred to as an academic (the academics at our university are good/ bad etc., never professors, which is an Americanism). A Professor in the UK is someone who has been awarded a Professorship, the highest rank an academic can be promoted to. We also have Associate Professors, the next rank down, but they are only allowed to style themselves as Doctor, the same as a lower-ranking academic.
Jeremy Brett will always be the best actor for Sherlock Holmes. He was perfect.
Robert Downey Jr. is as great as hin in acting Sherlock Holmes.
@@Dave.Mustaine.Is.Genius The problem is that Downey doesn't really play Sherlock Holmes. He plays a free, distant version of it. Jeremy Brett is SH as Conan Doyle created him.
I don’t know if it was intentional, but I like how Sherlock doesn’t move from his spot while Moriarty moves around the room. Seems to represent they’re positions in the criminal acts. Sherlock stands his ground intent on interfering with Moriarty’s business while Moriarty tries to move around him but can’t move him or get past.
Good point!
I always thought that, in the stories, when they described how Moriarty moves his head in a serpent-like fashion, that it seemed pretty silly...until I saw Eric Porter do it. You could actually feel the cold, calculating mind struggling with his absolute hatred of Holmes.
This scene is absolutely perfect! Jeremy Brett IS Sherlock Holmes, and Eric Porter IS Professor Moriarty...no others need apply!
There have been many Holmes and a few Moriartys and most of them have been quite good in their own way but these two are the definitive. This Moriarty is also bloody terrifying.
Simply the best Moriarty, ever. Porter was perfect. It's a shame the role is so brief.
Thats the thing. Moriarty appears once in the books in the final problem.
So True Boris
@@priyankandatta5644 well it's not cool, he is the only one who equals with Sherlock Holmes and chosen to be in the path of being a criminal
A Chemist and a Mathematician locked in a competition of logical reasoning
Holmes was no chemist.
@@Mr.Monta77 What do you mean? Watson remarked in the first book that Holmes' knowledge of chemistry is profound!
@@Mr.Monta77 i believe sherlock holmes was a chemist, he was working in the college laboratories and make his own researches there, it is obvious that he is a chemist with a knowledge in other things, otherwise he can not take forensic science to that extent ..
@@thegreenpigsnout5579 Not according to the text: Holmes was a consulting detective. Not merely a chemist though he did private chemical experiments. Not the same thing. And I’ve seen no reference to Holmes’ degree as a professional chemist.
@@williamsherlock3939 Show me please, where it says that Holmes passed his Master’s degree as a chemist? I suspect you mean ‘amateur chemist’?
Two of the most cunningly brilliant minds in all of the Empire matching wits. Even as they are diametrically opposed to one another, each still has considerable respect for the other. This series was pure art, and Jeremy and Eric were genius in their respective roles.
Exactly how Holmes and Moriarty should look.
“All that i have to say has already crossed your mind”
“Possibly my answer has already crossed yours”
Impactful lines from the two greatest adaptations of Arthur Conan Doyle Sherlock Holmes. Watch the scenes and the intense performances of two completely different interpretations (this and BBC)
Third: The Woman in Green. This is a film from the Sherlock Holmes film series from the 1940's.
I love how some of the lines in this scene were used in Sherlock and Sherlock Holmes Game of Shadows.
Those lines here iare, i think, taken almost word by word from original novel
urmo345 Indeed they are. I wonder what Chris Westergaard would make of the original story. (www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/FinaProb.shtml)
Yes it's great especially with James Harris's and Robert Downey jr saying the
The Woman in Green is another one. The movie is from 1945.
And they managed to create this level of tension WITHOUT music, except when Moriarty plucks at the violin string. Beat THAT, Moffat and Gatiss!
Don't get me wrong, I like BBC Sherlock too! Don't hurt me!
There is, in my mind, no doubt that the modern 're-working' of the Sherlock Holmes tales are interesting, but absolutely no improvement on the originals, nor, in the case of video or film portrayals, do they come close to the standards of the Granada series.
zooeyhall Precisely.
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This series was absolute genius. The finest portrayal of Holmes on any screen big or small.
I liked the film version but the modern film should not be compared too much as much as anyone would, for the warner films takes their game both Sherlock and Moriarty into a new height that diverges from the book and is somewhat of a mixture of the cases from the final problem, the eery but terrifying Valley of Fear, red headed league, Naval Treaty, to the second stain, going even further to his last bow the film is in no way the same as this show which sticks to Sir Arthur’s work almost to a perfect fitting. The Moriarty of the Warner films was a close match though age varies from original it did not lose the sudden threat of Moriarty as based in that universe the narcissism in his character and plans, his sociopathic tendencies and being, his galant look that makes one think of a professor, a man who wears a mask that many would never care to suspect, that Moriarty is the perfect embodiment of Moriarty if he were so bold as to start a war for mere profit; ultimately what makes the book Moriarty so terrifying isn’t merely his involvement with the story of “The Valley of Fear”, nor his henchmen and the secret society he had firmly built throughout his shadowy career but the fact that at the heart of it... he was “Simplicity” embodied; so simple was Moriarty that even Sherlock was shocked at how “simplistic” Moriarty’s moves were that it was to the point of “perfection” every move made to look complex to a fool only to be nothing more but a simple trick that inevitably turned the wheels that much.
The single greatest scene in the best Sherlock Holmes series of all times. Two giants of the acting profession. Two equals with Eric Porter and Jeremy Brett at the top of their game. A brilliant scene with out a false note. Brilliant from beginning to end.
The defining clash. This is better acted and more tense than any other portrayal. Two Titans circling each other. Great stuff.
Outstanding acting from two legends. I remember the first time I saw this, and the power hasn't dimmed. The use dialogue and gesture to build the tension just go to show that you don't need to swear and curse, or shed tons of blood, to make a big impact.
:You have placed me in such a position by your continual persecution of me that I am in positive danger of losing my liberty." You should've thought of that before you turned to a life of crime.
Who defines crime? The State! An institution of violence and violation of the liberties of individuals. Crime is an excuse by State authorities (and its puppets like the arrogant, despicable Sherlock Holmes) to persecute highly intelligent, independent persons like Professor Moriarty who refuse to obey the tyrrany of the State and instead live their lives according to their own rules.
iniohos2 and who defines a state? You? My mailman? Us? You have given such a simple answer and turned it into a ridiculous question you speak of intelligence but only a fool would look at things the way you do for there are several points in which your statement would turn against your foolishness if ever there is a man who were to use your fallible reasoning. For if ever there is a man such as Moriarty then there will be many who are similar to him what then would stop them from taking what is owed to you? Your blood? Your sweat? Your hard work? Your own word that can easily be turned against you if not for rules placed upon by society and the state you dare say make excuses? You speak as if these things have meaning to a man like Moriarty who very much uses the system for his own benefits another factor that totally shows how you fail to even see the genius and the true intelligence of this man; & whom, would in no less use easy puppets like you with no difficulty for a puppet master manipulates a puppet perfectly if it were fashioned to his liking.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 many people like moriarity? the whole point is that there are no people like him (or only one), which is why the ordinary sheep have to band together against the big cat (via the establishment of government) in order to avoid being at his mercy.
He´s a bit like the grumpy cat. I love Jeremy, but my favourite Moriarty is Jared Harris in Sherlock Holmes 2.
I could never take any of the villains in the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes films seriously, That and also such things as having Irene Adler working for Moriarty and having Downey hamming it up in drag among other things.
For me the best takes on Conan Doyle's Moriarty are Porter here,
George Zucco from 1939's 'The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes',
'Jimmy' Moriarty from the BBC's 'Sherlock',
and Kim Newman's homage to Conan Doyle's character in his recent pastche novel
'Professor Moriarty: The Hound of the D'Ubervilles'
cha5 Pass me the bucket, NOW!
cha5 I’m sorry “Jimmy” Moriarty from “Sherlock” is a part of your list? I’m sorry but the fact that such a stupid adaptation of Moriarty exists like that of Jimmy in BBC’s Sherlock is beyond me where did this Moriarty come from compare him to the source and he’d be another copy of Jack the Ripper mixed in with Sebastian Moran a total miss to the character that is Moriarty in the books.
@@yamatonoryuujin4871 oh but his portrayal was f moriarty in the ‘pool scene’ to me is incredible. I feel like Andrew Scott perfectly captured the quiet danger of moriarty, that cobra-like intensity. The way he could switch from playful to rage to cold-blooded genius makes him my personal favourite moriarty.
Jared Harris and Andrew Scott both delivered great performances but Eric Porter will always be the one true Moriarty. :)
No they didn’t. Scott is a weak parody of Moriarity. A total miscast in the role.
@@Mr.Monta77 What about Jared Harris'?
This scene is just done so well, it simply can't be replicated in any other adaptation.
Brilliant scene, brilliant acting! I love the way Brett glances towards the door at 3:41, suggesting that it is time for Moriarty to leave!
Damn Bryan Cranston has nailed every classic villain role perfectly!
good god, I cannot unsee it
Has Cranston done a British accent in anything? I now want to hear it.
This is how you do meetings between these two amazing characters and fantastic actors such tenseness and foil and parry no one has done these parts better for me than Jeremey Brett and Eric Porter
I love Eric Porter's neck spasm at 3:43. He has a way of conveying uncontrollable rage in that moment, as if he is using all his powers from leaping across the room and strangling Holmes. I have watched this scene unfold 4 times by 8 actors over the last few months and this is the closest to the source material, but I can't help but love Andrew Scott and Benedict Cumberbatch.
I used to favor Jared Harris and Robert Downey Jr. but this scene is by far the best version I've ever watched.
@@XJ0461CHonestly, it’s ok to like both. This is more faithful to the books, but the other one is just as good.
@@WorldWar2freak94 I agree, I still love both, my personal preference has just changed over time. I consider the Chess game iconic in its own right.
Brett was born to play Holmes. Mark Gatiss is just a fanfiction writer - nothing original - just a long drawn-out pastiche of the Master, Arthur Conan Doyle.
Tom Bradford like holmes has said. Nothing new under the sun.
Great stuff. I would add that Holmes is unusually on the defensive in this scene for one reason - he's never seen the previously mysterious Moriarty, so it's the first time he's had the chance to size him up him in person, while Moriarty has observed the (famous) Holmes from a distance, knows what he looks like, and already knows what to expect when he goes to Baker Street. They're equals, but Holmes looks a bit unnerved and Moriarty has the temporary upper hand because of the particulars of the situation.
My favorite scene of the entire show. The best Holmes and the best Moriarty in the ultimate battle of wits
Sensational actors perfectly cast breathe life into equally sensational characters. Possibly the greatest protagonists in the annals of literature, the very performances tell that each man knows he has met his match.
It's amazing the vast amount of acting talent the Great Detective inspires. Rathbone, Brett and now Cumberbatch. And yes I should mention Downey as well, even though the movies might be a bit over the top, he's bloody good too.
In the stories by Arthur Conan Doyle Moriarty appears in 'The Final Problem' and is mentioned 'The Empty House' and he has a role in 'The Valley of Fear' (He's offscreen in TVOF but his presence and sense of menace is a constant in that story.)
Even after Moriarty's death Holmes respects Moriarty as an enemy even as late as 1902 (One year before his retirement)
"If your man is more dangerous than the late Professor Moriarty or the living Col Sebastian Moran, he must be a worthy foe indeed."
You see, THIS is why the Moriarty of this series beats the one in BBC (we'll call that one Jim.) This Moriarty has a reason for what he does; he is a master criminal (that's the whole point) and does it for money and power, and he is brilliant.
Jim has no motive nor purpose, which makes it ridiculous that he would've gained the power he had (that takes effort and motive.) Jim's schemes are silly, erratic, and he does whatever the plot demands (like trapping Holmes in a room full of snipers, but entering it himself to allow Holmes to hold him at gunpoint.)
I think the BBC series was cool (even though the first episode was by far the best, and the only one I'd recommend) but you guys are right; this beats it by a mile.
+Metal Jacket i believe thats the point. the first mortar while true to ACD's vision is too one diminutional for today. it would run counter to the narrative of the series if jim where like that. instead, what we have is a literal mad obsessed genius which makes him more frightening, and unpredictable. very much like the joker.
j mul I disagree profusely. Moriarty could easily still be an effective criminal mastermind today. There are hundreds of applications to that kind of villain. He could've been the ruthless owner of an expanding energy corporation that's slowly taking over the world, or a war profiteer, or even just an incredibly influential and dangerous politician; kind of like Mycroft, but more wicked.
But you see, while Jim may be unpredictable, he isn't exactly frightening. His insanity compelled him to do essentially whatever the plot of each episode needed to progress. The Joker at least had the goal of toppling the system and reducing society to animalistic anarchy, where he knew he would rule; Jim literally has no motivation whatsoever, no driving force that would explain his power and resources.
I mean, think about it; he has numerous henchmen working for him, the criminal underworld bows to him, he has extensive knowledge of the system and the way things work, etc. That doesn't come from nowhere. It takes *years* of study and ardous work to get that kind of power and knowledge, and to get it, you need dedication and *motivation,* and a strong one at that. Since Jim has none, it's ridiculous that he has any of it. Hell, it's ridiculous that he hasn't been caught.
So, that, in my opinion, is why Jim never stood a chance at filling the role of *Professor* Moriarty.
+Metal Jacket +Metal Jacket A theory I read somewhere but forgot its origin, was that the BBC new Moriarty Jim is actually Professor Moriarty's brother, with the real Professor still being in the shadows. This Jim Moriarty instead being the out of control little brother. Jim being to James Moriarty as Sherlock is to Mycroft.
The only thing backing this theory up is that in the story The Final problem, it is mentioned that James Moriarty's brother, also called James, had been trying to salvage his brothers reputation and possibly muddy that of Sherlocks, which is why Watson writes the true account down.
So perhaps the out of Character Jim Moriarty is a different character to James Moriarty, who could come up as a master villain. That theory would also explain that Jim wasn't the mastermind behind it all but James, and Jim was just heavily involved in the business and then became obsessed with Sherlock. The drive and planning being done by his other.
Probably wont happen but oh well, I would enjoy it!
***** Huh. Now that you mention it, that would be *very* interesting--even though Moriarty's brother was supposed to be a colonel. Still, I like that idea a lot, even though I doubt it's canon.
+Cal Roy That would be amazing. Hopefully it'll be in series 4.
The converstion follows the book almost to a T.
I literally did a search for this scene. one of the great acted drama scenes ever.
you didn't figuratively search for it?
This truely as a whole is the best most authentic adaptation of Sherlock Holmes, I remember my English teacher showing episodes of this in class as he held it in such high regards for book accuracy.
Its the very reason i picked it up when i saw it on dvd many years ago, I'd may get the blu-ray version at some point. I enjoyed the bbc modern take on it and the two Guy Richie movies but this is still to be beaten, less popcorn and more class.
The thing about BBC Sherlock's take on Moriarty is that he seems to be more of an intellectual superior than an equal, always one step ahead of Sherlock and that he seems to be unbeatable. Always toying with him. While here, like in the books, they toy with each other...
As much as I like Cumberbatch as Holmes, these two have better acting skills
stan green u got to be kidding
Jax Pk These two have better dialogue and can be taken more seriously, as opposed to the hammy, ostentatious villain in Scott's Moriarty.
Magnificent portrayal by 2 great actors.Nothing compares to this moment.
Eric Richard Porter (8 April 1928 - 15 May 1995)
5:25 The face that says "I'm looking forward to throwing you off the falls"
I do love how Doyle elaborates on Moriarty and his criminal empire again in 'The Valley of Fear' in which it's revealed just how extensive his organization is and Moriarty's willingness and ruthlessness to commit to something like the killing of one man in a memorable fashion while almost tweeking Holmes's nose in the process.
Given they had such a public address, I’m surprised things like this didn’t happen more often
Eric Porter is a terrific Moriarty and a worthy counterpoint for Brett's Holmes.
The idea that Moriarty was the force behind the Red Headed League is a good one, I believe. He had the connections needed in order to find out about the gold, and the resources to ship it out and launder the loot later.
"You have... less frontal development than I should have expected."
Jeremy Brett plays the character closest to the original Sherlock Holmes of anyone I’ve ever seen play him. I say that having read Ever Sherlock Holmes story and book ever written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Brett assembled a 77-page Holmes dossier filled with every detail about Holmes to be found in the original stories. David Suchet created a similar "users manual" when he researched Hercule Poirot. 😐
Wait. his cane is a GUN?!
+Dear1Stupid1Dog They had class in those days, not like now, when some sweating hulk appears with the sub-machine gun and the belt of bullets slung around his shoulder - no gravitas at all!
Yup, these were the concealed weapons of that day and age. If one RUclips video is to be believed, they held .410 caliber rounds (or at least, one at a time)!
@@DCMarvel2009
Usually just one round: it's all you need to scare some knife-wielding jackass (for gun-toting ones, you might need a pocket revolver.)
And of course, you'd likely be out and about with your friends, who may well have similar canes.
1:26 Look at what he has in his hand.
Watch A Game of Shadows.
Holy shit.
I believe the red notepad was an integral part of the original story written by sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
He's flicking through his cartoon
They borrow heavily from Doyle's writing, line for line, because their own writing would seem rather conspicuous next to his. That fluent use of language, Holmes' sharp wit and vigilance, as well as the finding of important clues in such seemingly insignificant details cannot be easily replicated by anyone but a true artist.
So many wonderful lines packed into so short a scene. The one which begins, "You know, I'm afraid that in the pleasure of this conversation, I am neglecting business of importance, which awaits me ... elsewhere," should be memorized, ready for use on that one occasion when it would really hit home, and how do the actors manage to avoid blinking for so long? The dialogue, setting and acting beat the ludicrous modern film version hands down. This portrayal is not fantasy - it's reality!
The best British actors in this
Jeremy Brett and Eric Porter
Sadly no longer with us
Imagine if the creator of Moriarty the patriot did this scene in the anime, it would be cool
0:26 amazing how brett expresses appreciation for moriarty's observational skill, however transient the admiration was.
This scene (from both book and shows) is sooooo intense. Its so awesome...
This scene did occur on paper, because a little bit after this encounter, Holmes recounts the entire story in detail of his meeting with Moriarty to Watson.
The only duel that comes close to this for me is the 3rd Doctor and the Master (From dr Who) I know that seems like sacrilege, but it is what I thought as a kid, and still do
SJHFoto There is nothing sacrilegious about what you’ve said. Jon Pertwee and Roger Delgado Willa always be the definitive Doctor/Master partnership.
Professor James Moriarty- Sherlock homes’s most dangerous,cunning and intelligent adversary. Sherlock’s equal
Notice how he holds his coat shut, indicating how genuinely unsettled he is by the presence of moriarty.
Best Holmes/Moriarty duo, no doubt about it... just look at their eyes as they in rather polite manner talk to each other. Holmes with an alert as if expecting an attack of a beast, and Moriarty trying to subdue his beastly nature within... Messrs Brett and Porter, it's a privilege to watch your performance...
This level of verbal discourse is what I look for in characterizations between Reed Richards vs. Dr Doom or Superman vs. Lex Luthor. The Hero as an inconvenience to the Villain who can barley maintain composure over wrath. I know graphic novels/comics are a little off topic but my interest is Character and Conflict-This series is timeless
the Brexit in a nutshell....
its weird how they both died the same year
Wow. Look at the way he subtly flicks his eyes towards the door at 3:40. This is such a great stand-off. They didn't need special effects, music, or jaunty camera angles. You can just feel the tension because of these two extraordinary, unblinking actors. (especially Brett, of course)
There has never been a better example balance of order and chaos, than Sherlock Holmes and James Moriarty
I cant believe theres no comment about his cane being a fucking gun. He's that old of age and he still is badass.
Jaw-dropping scene.
Completely loyal to the book.
Such breed, such manner.
Oh and Sherlock Holmes is pretty good too.
One of my most favorite scenes from this series! I absolutely love the face to face steely showdown and the slight unravelling of the brilliant evil genius. Fabulous! Genius! ...and Benedict Cumberbatch is not better. He's brilliant too, and just different. He's a "functioning sociopath" while Jeremy Brett plays a more human Holmes. I love them both but Jeremy Brett's is easier to love :) I love the little shiver as Moriarty's back is turned. Yes, Holmes was frightened, but kept composed. Brill!
I like Benedict cumberbatch
But i think he acts too much LGBT Sherlock Holmes
I mean he acts like cold blooded woman while Moriarty is the one who's behaving so gayish
When Moriarty mentioned the mighty organisation Holmes with all his cleverness could not realise....was it the early Mafia he hinted at.....? or west midlands serious...? Onyl joking
Absolutely incredible! There's no way Robert Downey Jr.'s gonna beat Jeremy Brett. the actor for Moriarty is perfect. If you read the description of Moriarty in the Final Problem, then watch this, it's perfect. BRAVO!!!
Miiiiight want to delve into the person who posts before saying things like that. I cannot stand at all what Ritchie has done to the characters and Brett for me will ALWAYS be Sherlock Holmes.
Best episode of Sherlock Holmes in the whole series.
You can cut the silence with a knife watching this.
The hawk-like features and piercing eyes, damn...
And the merest quiver of a smile. Brett is God
Eric Porter, Jeremy Brett - superb actors of the highest order.
To see Holmes visibly shaken, on edge and acting with empty bravado adds so much to the sense of menace and terror.
A suberb scene with two top class actors.
Brett absolutely top class in this, the very best Sherlock Holmes series I've ever seen.
This is a fascinating pair of performances...whereas the new movie attempts to show the two as having their primary difference be the nature of their respective psychoses (Holmes: outward insanity, inward respectability/Moriarty: outward respectability, inward insanity), these interpretations show Moriarty as a paranoid control freak who is enraged at Holmes' attempt to challenge him, while Holmes is feeling as much excitement at the prospect of a rival as he is righteous fury.
The Napoleon of Crime by Ben Macintyre is a biography of the person upon whom Doyle is said to have created Moriarty.
I have watched I think every version of Mr Holmes , parody and pastiche included , Jeremy Brett is Holmes. There is no better , nor do I think there will be. Benedict Cumberbatch is a great actor and, by God he's close , but Holmes is Jeremy Brett and Jeremy Brett is Holmes.
I never saw this version of Sherlock Holmes and couldnt figure out which was Holmes and Moriarty till one said it themselves. The younger guy looks and sounds more narcissistic than the older guy. it was a funny moment of mine.
this scene is a dialogue lesson.
my god their conversation is like watching a nuke to explode
... Jeremy Brett here looks like Don Draper from 'Mad Men' after a night of smokes and a hangover.
@LordJazor Actually, this is the series Robert Downey Jr. watched to get into character.
Perfect Moriarty portrayal.
Why is this a heck of a lot tenser than the chess moves and the pool confrontation?
Both Sherlock and Professor Moriarty share a relationship forged from hatred and rivalry but they are fascinated with one another's minds because never before have these two foes come across another who has that same brilliance and intellect.
@movisony4 In the book Moriarty's name isn't mentioned in
"The Red Headed League" although quite a fair number of Sherlockian scholars
Gould, Klinger, and others
think Moriarty likely had some involvement in planning it out
and finnancing the attempted gold robbery.
I keep watching all the repeats on ITV 4 on freeview :) He is great !