Lot of talking in this one - here's the timestamps for ya! 0:00 Oh Hey 0:40 Some Backstory 2:47 The LX570 4:04 New Land Cruiser VS GX550 5:36 I saved $60K 6:30 LX570 vs GX550 7:40 Interior / Modern / Tech / Safety 8:45 Size / Seating 10:30 Engine / Reliability 13:02 Suspension 15:15 Tailgate / Hatch 17:00 I'm not a GX550 Hater - I LOVE Land Cruisers 18:00 Manual E-Brake 18:13 Ground Clearance and Approach/Departure 19:09 Lighting 19:54 Sound System / Seats / Misc 22:32 4x4 23:06 Other Niceties 24:47 Wrap-Up / LX570 Plans
I’m excited to see LX content back on the channel. Your first LX video put them on my radar, and I sold my ‘17 OR tacoma and got a clean 2011 a few months after. Almost two years later and we still love it, zero regrets. Threw some rock warriors and K02s on it and I get to pretend I’m overlanding as I haul the kids around 🤙🏼
Recently picked up a 2013 for about $24k, 180k miles… wife wanted the updated facelift. Been great so far. Also enjoy having one that’s not “mint”, so when the kids, dog, trash it or wife dings it up I won’t cry.
Traded my wife's newer Tahoe for a slightly older LX570 and it's hands-down a better vehicle and she loves it. If you can find one with around 100K on it, buy it with confidence.
You are not a card reviewer yet this was perhaps the best Land cruiser review video I’ve ever seen on RUclips. The part about emotions and how it makes you feel is the key to a 200 series. It’s the greatest vehicle ever built in any generation at any time in Cart manufacturing. Thanks again for posting. PS, the new land cruiser here in the USA will not be over built and have the same aura and legendary iconic status as a 200 series but every enthusiast knows this. Thanks again for the wonderful video.
Unpopular opinion I guess, while I love and respect all Land Cruisers, I find the 200 to be lethargic, heavy, numb and not that fun to drive. It does feel like a tank so I see why people have this opinion but greatest vehicle ever built in any generation at any time? lol. while very good, I'm not sure about that.
Love the 550. Sucks the V8 is gone but i own a V8 Lexus and I need the OT+ in the stable with it. They made the buying process very simple for those who want one based on the trims.
Great take. I’m also curious to hear how these compare: spending $70k on a $70k msrp GX550 (overland) vs spending $70k on a 2021 low mile LX570 with msrp of $100k. Same budget. Next gen GX vs lightly used previous gen LX.
The base Land Cruiser has my vote. I like the fabric seats and those headlights. Plus, those turbos love that elevation whereas naturally aspirated engines struggle.
Welcome back to the 200 series! I love my 80 for what it is but I think in a few years that folks are going to come around that the 200 series is likely the pinnacle Land Cruiser for the US market, I'll never give up the 200.
Been a Honda guy all my life, right now have a lease 22 MDX ASPEC which I will upgrade to the GX550 when the lease is up. I just check Lexus and there 0 APR so now the time to pre-order and lock yourself with no interest
New GX/LC is gonna look so much more modern than the LX/200 series but you are right, way more value in the older ones. This is true of other brands as well. I love our 09 Range Rover and 2001 F250 Diesel, both wonderfully reliable and don't see the point in spending huge bucks to upgrade just yet. You can nicely upgrade the important stuff like head unit/nav kind of stuff. You get to a certain point where paying so much more for the newer rigs doesn't necessarily mean you are getting that much more value or upgrades out of it. Just tech and styling. I do look forward to seeing the new LC's everywhere though and plan on buying a used one once the bugs are worked out.
I have in UK and have LC 200 with the 4.5 V8 twin turbo diesel motor. UK didn’t get the Lexus model on this platform so LC200 was well appointed in standard spec including having the AHC, in some ways best of both worlds.
Biggest difference between the new land cruiser and a GX 550 is the V6 turbo vs. four-cylinder turbo. I didn’t hear you touch on that part. but there was a lot of talk. I might’ve missed it. lol
gx550 overtrain versions have ekdss, where the swayer front and rear disconnect and reconnect instantly with linkages. Better than the lc250 front disconnecting swayer
Clearly, the cost savings is huge. But I’m curious if you would buy a brand new GX550 Overtrail for $75k, or an ultra low mileage 2020 or 2021 LX570 for similar money (probably a little less)?
IDK why I'm watching this, the prices of both of these are crazy LOL. Forgot how expensive the used LXs are which is why I went used GX. If we have a 3rd kid, it's minivan time.
I will be getting a GX 550 Overtrail plus and do it right up. I'll keep my 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD Off Road with kings and many other goodies too probably for hunting and shit kicking while I baby and build the Lexus for a couple of years.
What rear axle do these have? After listening to your video, these may be less expensive than a GX470 considering you won't need to purchase a lift/suspension or swap out the weak rear axle.
I’m gonna keep it as low as possible, but not really touch anything until it’s got bumpers at least. Then can evaluate how everything is sitting and adjust accordingly with spacers and bracket adjustment
I like the new gx550 but the 200 isn’t going anywhere. Neighbor picked up a one owner 2005 570 with a 130k miles from a Lexus dealer. They gave him a 60,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. Just goes to show you the build quality of the 200/570
Now I’m going to have to ask, I thought he said 05 but it is a lx570. I was just surprised he got a better warranty vs his wife’s new 100k suv (only 3 year 36k).
80k for the GX550 Overtrail, 30-40k for a used LX 570. With 10k of upgrades youd have a far more capable overlanding/off roading vehicle, that's a 40k savings. Are you really going to save that much money on gas over time? I think probably not.
Mikes too young. They are a joy but not very useful besides looking cool and putting on down to the local hangout. Compared to newer rigs, extremely uncomfortable, unsafe, gutless, ineffecient, noisy, impractical but awesome all at the same time. Not a terrible place to put your money though, investing in old land cruisers can be better than money in other investments if you upkeep/restore them.
Ha it was the right move at the time. Also, allowed me a year to experience the first gen sequoia, which was rad. Plus this one was cheaper, with lower miles, and less rust than my last one!
I was trying to scratch the land cruiser itch. The wife wanted a TX but it was crazy expensive. We ended up with a GX 460 for 10k off MSRP and I love it. Being in a new car makes me want a new Tundra over my 15 lol.
Love the channel, have been following your builds for years and they've all been amazing! This one no exception....but that horrid grill is the first bad style choice I've ever seen you make 🤢 As a 200 owner current 200 owners should go with the Lexus Gx over the Prado....it'll be the luxury we're used to 😂
@@LastLineOfDefense some of us from the old days are still hanging around haha. Digging the last few years of content... I don't assume you sold off your gats?
We have a 2011 LX570. We drove a 2023 GX 460 a couple weeks ago and there is no comparison (I know this is about the GX550). The LX is by far the winner. We paid $28K 3 years ago when it had 95K on it. It now has 127K and its a beast. If something happens to it, I just spend the money and fix it. I will plug my mechanic here: 3Zero3 Automotive in Golden (Just a block west from Slee Off Road). Austin is the owner does all my Toyota / Vehicle work.
Look, I normally love your channel but this is a big miss - at least initially. I am almost ten minutes into this and as far as I can tell, you have not in a coherent, simple straightforward way told the audience how the GX550 fits into the matrix of 4runner sized vs. Landcruiser sized Toyota / Lexus vehicles. You should START with that, and then make clear comparisons of other differences. All you did in the first 9 or 10 minutes is say how confusing it is, and continue to make it more confusing,. THAT is the key question and yet you ramble on, repeating yourself in ways that are difficult to follow. Just make it simple. Post a chart on the screen, slow down and explain the matrix. I sure don't have this much time to waste without getting any useful information. I know I sound harsh, but just consider it tough love. The best channels provide clear, concise information in ways that are straightforward, easy to follow and frankly that stand alone on audio only vs. audio plus video. Too many channels are more focused on volume for clicks and ad dollars. I think that is bad for the brand. No doubt I'll get flamed, but I'm trying to help and after almost ten minutes of nonsense I don't have a lot more patience.
Look, use the provided chapters that break down every coherent point and comparison made in the video (much of which requires backstory/context, which is presented at the beginning of the video as it should be). If you don’t know how to use RUclips chapters, I conveniently pinned a comment that displays at the top of all the comments, mirroring that timestamped breakdown. This channel represents my personal interests, hobbies, and thoughts. As such, nobody should expect generic RUclips automotive reviews here, as there are about ten thousand identical channels out there all doing that exact thing. People obviously like that sort of thing, since there are thousands of channels with millions of subscribers, but I can’t think of anything more boring and dry - so you’ll likely never see that here. Also, almost nobody on RUclips is focused on volume, because people have been conditioned to have the attention span of a goldfish, as shown here.
YEAH YOU SAVE 60K$ BUT AFTER 5 YEARS YOUR LX IS OLD AND NEEDS A REPAIR OR NEW ONE WHILE YOUR GX IS STILL NEW AND NO REPAIR COST NEEDED. OVER ALL I THINK IN THE LONG RUN YOU CAN SAVE MONEY BUYING GX 550 WITH NEW TECH AND BETTER OFF ROAD CAPABLE WITH DIFF LOCKER.
Yeah, you bring the current 4runner into the equation, and you have lots of a very similar SUV. Granted my guess is the 6th Gen 4Runner will be vastly different, because my guess is that the new Land Cruiser was really just slated to be the new 4Runner, and then they switched all kinds of crap around with naming, and the global platform these vehicles are all built on, further muddies the waters of model names and features.
Me: Makes video about buying 16 year old vehicle and saving money instead of buying the new new. Some loser in the comments: “wahhhh, flex your money!”
![Not your Mom's Lexus (LX 570 Luxury off road) [ep 113]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bXEFXaFWR0E/mqdefault.jpg)
Lot of talking in this one - here's the timestamps for ya!
0:00 Oh Hey
0:40 Some Backstory
2:47 The LX570
4:04 New Land Cruiser VS GX550
5:36 I saved $60K
6:30 LX570 vs GX550
7:40 Interior / Modern / Tech / Safety
8:45 Size / Seating
10:30 Engine / Reliability
13:02 Suspension
15:15 Tailgate / Hatch
17:00 I'm not a GX550 Hater - I LOVE Land Cruisers
18:00 Manual E-Brake
18:13 Ground Clearance and Approach/Departure
19:09 Lighting
19:54 Sound System / Seats / Misc
22:32 4x4
23:06 Other Niceties
24:47 Wrap-Up / LX570 Plans
I’m excited to see LX content back on the channel. Your first LX video put them on my radar, and I sold my ‘17 OR tacoma and got a clean 2011 a few months after. Almost two years later and we still love it, zero regrets. Threw some rock warriors and K02s on it and I get to pretend I’m overlanding as I haul the kids around 🤙🏼
It's such a good rig (MPGs aside), and these used ones coming on the market that are 10 years or more old, have plenty of life left in em!
As the new owner of a 2015 LX570, you are 100% spot on with your comments. Great video!
I’m with you. I have a 2017 200 series and hope to keep it forever. The new GX looks cool but the 200 is just perfection in my opinion
It’s hard to beat!
Recently picked up a 2013 for about $24k, 180k miles… wife wanted the updated facelift. Been great so far. Also enjoy having one that’s not “mint”, so when the kids, dog, trash it or wife dings it up I won’t cry.
Traded my wife's newer Tahoe for a slightly older LX570 and it's hands-down a better vehicle and she loves it. If you can find one with around 100K on it, buy it with confidence.
I'm still rocking an LX470 and loving it, but these are the kind of comparisons that I'll be making when it's time to get something newer.
Honestly, this is a very fair comparison. Yes.... toyota/Lexus made a lot of things complicated over the last couple of years.
You are not a card reviewer yet this was perhaps the best Land cruiser review video I’ve ever seen on RUclips. The part about emotions and how it makes you feel is the key to a 200 series. It’s the greatest vehicle ever built in any generation at any time in Cart manufacturing. Thanks again for posting. PS, the new land cruiser here in the USA will not be over built and have the same aura and legendary iconic status as a 200 series but every enthusiast knows this. Thanks again for the wonderful video.
Appreciate it! And yeah, I agree with all of those thoughts
Unpopular opinion I guess, while I love and respect all Land Cruisers, I find the 200 to be lethargic, heavy, numb and not that fun to drive. It does feel like a tank so I see why people have this opinion but greatest vehicle ever built in any generation at any time? lol. while very good, I'm not sure about that.
A slightly worn-in philosophy is a good and practical approach to a vehicle imo, Well said
Love the 550. Sucks the V8 is gone but i own a V8 Lexus and I need the OT+ in the stable with it. They made the buying process very simple for those who want one based on the trims.
Great take.
I’m also curious to hear how these compare: spending $70k on a $70k msrp GX550 (overland) vs spending $70k on a 2021 low mile LX570 with msrp of $100k.
Same budget. Next gen GX vs lightly used previous gen LX.
I'm guessing the LX570 will last longer than a GX550 given no turbo and less fancy electronics.
Im debating the exact topic of this video and really appreciate you making it! Didn’t sound hateful at all just critical of something we all love
The base Land Cruiser has my vote. I like the fabric seats and those headlights. Plus, those turbos love that elevation whereas naturally aspirated engines struggle.
Welcome back to the 200 series! I love my 80 for what it is but I think in a few years that folks are going to come around that the 200 series is likely the pinnacle Land Cruiser for the US market, I'll never give up the 200.
Been a Honda guy all my life, right now have a lease 22 MDX ASPEC which I will upgrade to the GX550 when the lease is up. I just check Lexus and there 0 APR so now the time to pre-order and lock yourself with no interest
Every gx550 overtrail I’ve seen has been listed for no less than $90k 😂 570 is a beast. I’m considering picking one up next week
The 550 comes with the v6 turbo and the LC comes with a 4 cyl hybrid. Quite a difference there
New GX/LC is gonna look so much more modern than the LX/200 series but you are right, way more value in the older ones. This is true of other brands as well. I love our 09 Range Rover and 2001 F250 Diesel, both wonderfully reliable and don't see the point in spending huge bucks to upgrade just yet. You can nicely upgrade the important stuff like head unit/nav kind of stuff. You get to a certain point where paying so much more for the newer rigs doesn't necessarily mean you are getting that much more value or upgrades out of it. Just tech and styling. I do look forward to seeing the new LC's everywhere though and plan on buying a used one once the bugs are worked out.
I have in UK and have LC 200 with the 4.5 V8 twin turbo diesel motor. UK didn’t get the Lexus model on this platform so LC200 was well appointed in standard spec including having the AHC, in some ways best of both worlds.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the LX570 has a 3 inch lift & 2 inch drop from the neutral position.
It's the other way around in Europe - you'll pay a lot more for Lexus LX than Land Cruiser.
I need those additional cup holders!!!!
Biggest difference between the new land cruiser and a GX 550 is the V6 turbo vs. four-cylinder turbo. I didn’t hear you touch on that part. but there was a lot of talk. I might’ve missed it. lol
Yeah was a lot, haha. 10:45 I talked about it though
Gx 550 does not have a disconnectable front sway bar where lc250 does right?
gx550 overtrain versions have ekdss, where the swayer front and rear disconnect and reconnect instantly with linkages. Better than the lc250 front disconnecting swayer
Clearly, the cost savings is huge. But I’m curious if you would buy a brand new GX550 Overtrail for $75k, or an ultra low mileage 2020 or 2021 LX570 for similar money (probably a little less)?
IDK why I'm watching this, the prices of both of these are crazy LOL. Forgot how expensive the used LXs are which is why I went used GX. If we have a 3rd kid, it's minivan time.
I will be getting a GX 550 Overtrail plus and do it right up. I'll keep my 3rd Gen Tacoma TRD Off Road with kings and many other goodies too probably for hunting and shit kicking while I baby and build the Lexus for a couple of years.
Cool Info video! Thanks Mike!
Thinking of selling my 4Runner and getting a used GX 460 to build up
How do i get that cup holder??? Awesome video im super happy you bought another LX
do like the NEW GX550 overtrial no 3rd row opt to delete the moonroof
we would of bought more LC200s if it been more utilitarian ..... than a 3 row luxury family school bus
It's a wildly utilitarian vehicle, as shown by its use in every 3rd world country and showing up at the end of every beat down road across the globe.
@@LastLineOfDefense yes and v8 diesel
Love my GX460 on 33.4's except for at the gas pump
and the front end look, over hang
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 Yeah- even with my high-clearence bumper, I dragged it a few times in Moab.
Lx interior lokks great! Did you have it redone? If so, what did you go with?
What are the cup holders you have in yours ? I hate the cup holder in my lx
would love to see a LX470 v LX570 comparison
What rear axle do these have? After listening to your video, these may be less expensive than a GX470 considering you won't need to purchase a lift/suspension or swap out the weak rear axle.
They are Beef Supreme
Correction. I believe they are crunch wrap supreme * beef supreme was the previous model
I love my 08 570! dont care about the new LC/550 for a number of reasons
Both.
Are you going to do the AHC sensor trick to permanently lift it?
I’m gonna keep it as low as possible, but not really touch anything until it’s got bumpers at least. Then can evaluate how everything is sitting and adjust accordingly with spacers and bracket adjustment
Did these come with a rear diff locker?
Buy the LC new or GX550 used. The LC will hold value better new and the GX is a better deal used.
What’s the rim size and offset?
Hey guys!!! How’s it going! Hope you been well.❤😊
How many miles were you able to pick your up at?
140k on this one
I like the new gx550 but the 200 isn’t going anywhere. Neighbor picked up a one owner 2005 570 with a 130k miles from a Lexus dealer. They gave him a 60,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. Just goes to show you the build quality of the 200/570
Did you mean a 470? The 570 wasn’t a thing yet in 2005.
Now I’m going to have to ask, I thought he said 05 but it is a lx570. I was just surprised he got a better warranty vs his wife’s new 100k suv (only 3 year 36k).
80k for the GX550 Overtrail, 30-40k for a used LX 570. With 10k of upgrades youd have a far more capable overlanding/off roading vehicle, that's a 40k savings. Are you really going to save that much money on gas over time? I think probably not.
I’ve always wondered… why doesn’t Mike have a 40 series?
The honestly just don't do a whole lot for me.
Mikes too young. They are a joy but not very useful besides looking cool and putting on down to the local hangout. Compared to newer rigs, extremely uncomfortable, unsafe, gutless, ineffecient, noisy, impractical but awesome all at the same time. Not a terrible place to put your money though, investing in old land cruisers can be better than money in other investments if you upkeep/restore them.
I will get the new 250 with the 2.8 turbo diesel
Unfortunately that won’t be offered in the US
LX all day!
Bro I so called it. Knew you were gonna regret selling the last one.
Ha it was the right move at the time. Also, allowed me a year to experience the first gen sequoia, which was rad. Plus this one was cheaper, with lower miles, and less rust than my last one!
You got a good deal. I just picked up a 2014 with 118 for 35k. 0 rust on it though and perfect interior and exterior.
Welp... Mike just increased the going rate for the LX570, lol.
Just get them all. You’ll probably end up with more anyway!
No room, and no money!
lol…we are blessed to have first-world problems like these.
Waiting for my raptor ranger!
What color?
@@LastLineOfDefense velocity blue!
Noice!
I was trying to scratch the land cruiser itch. The wife wanted a TX but it was crazy expensive.
We ended up with a GX 460 for 10k off MSRP and I love it. Being in a new car makes me want a new Tundra over my 15 lol.
Love the channel, have been following your builds for years and they've all been amazing! This one no exception....but that horrid grill is the first bad style choice I've ever seen you make 🤢
As a 200 owner current 200 owners should go with the Lexus Gx over the Prado....it'll be the luxury we're used to 😂
Haha yeah I kiiinda like it, but also I don’t. I hate the factory grille though, so it’s a tossup.
Damn i remember when you used upload good pew and gear content not all this flashy look at me and my vehicles
Look at my 16 year old suv, baby!
@@LastLineOfDefense some of us from the old days are still hanging around haha. Digging the last few years of content... I don't assume you sold off your gats?
I don't think I've ever sold a gun actually - just lost em in a boating accident.
Nice video man and yeah I'm kinda on the fence as well with the GX550. 70+k is a lot for a new vehicle and LX570 are a plenty at a great price point.
We have a 2011 LX570. We drove a 2023 GX 460 a couple weeks ago and there is no comparison (I know this is about the GX550). The LX is by far the winner. We paid $28K 3 years ago when it had 95K on it. It now has 127K and its a beast. If something happens to it, I just spend the money and fix it. I will plug my mechanic here: 3Zero3 Automotive in Golden (Just a block west from Slee Off Road). Austin is the owner does all my Toyota / Vehicle work.
The LX570 is really a special machine
Add Blizzacks for the Winter and it tackles I70 & Rabbit Ears or any terrain with ease. Your chrome delete is sweet!
Keep the old less electronics !!!!!
You’re already thinking about a GX, it means you’ll eventually buy one, be honest with yourself
I think about a lot of things I don’t buy
Mike…..old ones, c’mon.
80 series was the last true LC. Dont lie
Everyone driving a 100 and 200 series in the most rugged and remote parts of the world heavily disagree with you, haha.
@@LastLineOfDefense gotta go back and watch your 80 vids....you end up selling those off?
Nope - I show them in this video actually.
Keep the LX570 lol
Look, I normally love your channel but this is a big miss - at least initially. I am almost ten minutes into this and as far as I can tell, you have not in a coherent, simple straightforward way told the audience how the GX550 fits into the matrix of 4runner sized vs. Landcruiser sized Toyota / Lexus vehicles. You should START with that, and then make clear comparisons of other differences. All you did in the first 9 or 10 minutes is say how confusing it is, and continue to make it more confusing,.
THAT is the key question and yet you ramble on, repeating yourself in ways that are difficult to follow. Just make it simple. Post a chart on the screen, slow down and explain the matrix.
I sure don't have this much time to waste without getting any useful information.
I know I sound harsh, but just consider it tough love.
The best channels provide clear, concise information in ways that are straightforward, easy to follow and frankly that stand alone on audio only vs. audio plus video.
Too many channels are more focused on volume for clicks and ad dollars. I think that is bad for the brand.
No doubt I'll get flamed, but I'm trying to help and after almost ten minutes of nonsense I don't have a lot more patience.
Look, use the provided chapters that break down every coherent point and comparison made in the video (much of which requires backstory/context, which is presented at the beginning of the video as it should be).
If you don’t know how to use RUclips chapters, I conveniently pinned a comment that displays at the top of all the comments, mirroring that timestamped breakdown.
This channel represents my personal interests, hobbies, and thoughts. As such, nobody should expect generic RUclips automotive reviews here, as there are about ten thousand identical channels out there all doing that exact thing. People obviously like that sort of thing, since there are thousands of channels with millions of subscribers, but I can’t think of anything more boring and dry - so you’ll likely never see that here.
Also, almost nobody on RUclips is focused on volume, because people have been conditioned to have the attention span of a goldfish, as shown here.
YEAH YOU SAVE 60K$ BUT AFTER 5 YEARS YOUR LX IS OLD AND NEEDS A REPAIR OR NEW ONE WHILE YOUR GX IS STILL NEW AND NO REPAIR COST NEEDED. OVER ALL I THINK IN THE LONG RUN YOU CAN SAVE MONEY BUYING GX 550 WITH NEW TECH AND BETTER OFF ROAD CAPABLE WITH DIFF LOCKER.
Just get the new one. You’re an influencer so you need the latest shit for content.
Meh
My head is absolutely spinning. They’d do so much better if they could simplify and market that info correctly.
Yeah, you bring the current 4runner into the equation, and you have lots of a very similar SUV. Granted my guess is the 6th Gen 4Runner will be vastly different, because my guess is that the new Land Cruiser was really just slated to be the new 4Runner, and then they switched all kinds of crap around with naming, and the global platform these vehicles are all built on, further muddies the waters of model names and features.
Keep the V8
Maybe save your money or donate it to a good cause…
I do both, you’re welcome!
@@LastLineOfDefense good for you! Maybe a video on it then! I’m sure people would love to see. Keep moving forward
wanna flex ur money anymore??
Me: Makes video about buying 16 year old vehicle and saving money instead of buying the new new.
Some loser in the comments: “wahhhh, flex your money!”
Some people are so poor they can’t even pay attention.
You’re a special kind of stupid 😂