Would love to see you dissect and analyze a pair of Japanese raw denim. Momotaro, Iron Heart, etc. For the quality and price I’m shocked if there was a better bang for your buck.
That's a great idea! We've been trying to get Joe to do another pair of denim. I think he's been avoiding denim because it takes so long to take appart 🤣
@@Shiftfashiongroupshould definitely do a japanese denim! momotaro is a well known brand but there is a canadian denim brand that is made in canada called naked and famous that uses japanese denim
Not that these aren't well-made or that there is anything wrong with Vietnamese manufacturing but it still seems kind of disappointing that for this kind of money, these clothes aren't made in Japan, Europe or the US. I guess this has to do with manufacturing capabilities as well. Vietnam surely has better access to modern machines for making clothes.
I've learned to look past focusing on the country of origin when buying clothes. The 'Made in Italy' label is associated with prestigious high end clothing, but the reality is that any country can manufacture high quality garments. There are plenty of poor quality clothes made in Italy, USA, etc. It all comes down to how much the manufacturing facility cares about producing a high quality garment.
@MichaelRWave I applaud your approach and can appreciate quality for sure. I just would also like to know that A. the workers are being treated well and paid fairly and B. the workers take pride in what they are crafting and are allowed to take their time in order to pay more attention to the details they're working on. I know it's a bit of an idealised view but I just enjoy having those thoughts when wearing something I spent a lot of money on. With that said I just bought two The North Face purple label jackets that are made in China and they are certainly well-made. Next jacket will be made in Japan though.
The average salary in Vietnam is only like $700 a month, I just don't think companies will ever be incentivized to manufacture in the US unless we completely switch to AI automated assembly lines for clothing, but then we would absolutely lose your romantic vision of the workers being treated well and taking pride in what they are crafting and paying attention to the finer details of the garments etc because there would be a lot less workers or artisans involved when automation shrinks those job positions from 10 to 1.
I guess it comes down to the quality control on the other end and also the quality management systems a European company have to adhere to. 9001 and CE accreditations
I used to own a lot of SI pieces but sold them all when it started to become really common and stopped being made in Italy. Obviously it's less expensive for the company to have things made in Turkey etc, but I find it interesting that the prices of the garments didn't fall along with their production costs.
@@Shiftfashiongroup ooh thanks! Probably one of the down jackets. I’ve been debating the light weight ones for winter hikes, I’ve got the down drift jacket and it’s amazing, I’m wondering if the light weight ones are too considering how thin they might be and if they’re prone to snagging or tearing.
That's crazy! I wonder how the Shadow Project line would be different with their regular Stoney jacket. Almost close to an Acronym piece now, now that I would love to see if its worth the price to pay for.
@@Shiftfashiongroup totally agree! their jackets are nonetheless great! It was just a bit painful to realize😂 you are educating, but hurting the owners at the same time😁
I think this might be we are seeing a race to the bottom for clothing. It’s a huge guessing game for the customer, they don’t trust the pricing. I wish prices included the market up %age. Then you’d truely know what you are paying for
Parkas are just long jackets, what make any clothing warm is the same, having a layer of air between you and the environment acting as insulation since air is a poor conductor of heat, acting as a barrier between the heat generated by your body and the cold air outside.
I currently own 12 Stone Island Jacket and Coats. Mixed between Shadow Project and in-line. Have had some for over 7 years and they are still holding up great. Have something similar to that one you just destroyed in my collection and it’s one of my favorites also.
Velour Garments Spain. I have 3 of their hoodies. They say they make luxury blanks but its the worst made hoodie i have experienced in my life. They keep sending me defects. I want to send you one of my defected hoodies to review, if u can help pay for some of it. Let me know thanks
Great work, i really hope you keep doing this like forever haha. Would love to see a BEFORE & AFTER for brands like Offwhite and Bape (before and after NIGO left the brand and before and after Virgil passing away)
Hah thanks for another great video! Thanks for donating your cloth for the show! Could you review YoungLA’s clothing next time? Feels like it’s one of the fastest growing brand right now!
Subbed and binging thru your videos! Very helpful content! Can you do hoodie reviews of the retail and expensive brands? Start with abercrombie hoodie, I have one and I really love it
Good to see that ur channel is growing u def deserve it. Beside Will lasry ur my second channel for watching anything that has to do with QC / manufacturing or clothing test. I think it's great u keep most opinion impartial and don't really have any bias views on the items u review.
Yeezy Season is good, at least Season 5. My cousin manufactured a lot of the stuff in Italy. I have some of the faulty pieces and they have so much work done on them.
This is one of those brands I will never understand. The logo is a rip off of nautica and why would someone spend $800 plus on this and not get a Moose Knuckle or Canadian Goose - this review was fan biased lol
Stone Island has been around longer than Nautica, and their logos aren't even remotely similar. Stone Island's is a nautical compass and Nautica's is a sailboat.
I love your videos but you re misleading peoples with this one. The fabrics of the jackets are shipped PFD from Italy from supplier like Limonta or majochi. Even if nylon is often looked up like a cheap fabric by certain the cost from those factories for it in pfd is more like 8 to 13 euro by meters. You have to add the shipping fees to it + duties just to ship trims and fabric.the badge cost nowhere around 25 cents it’s made in Italy you can check factories like texcart it will cost more between 2 to 4 euro. You can contact texcart factory and ask a quotation for a similar patch and you will be surprise. Then all garment made overseas are shipped PFD to Stone Island then garment dyed in house or in an Italian dye house like washitalia spa or similar to this one. Then. They add the badge, the care label and some other trims and then they pack it. Stone island use the same way to other garments or bags they receive it pfd and dye it. So what i would tell is that jacket cost more like 60 euro to make including shipping to 35 dollars. It can still look like a big margin for certain but it’s the price you pay for development of original sample and production process they putted in place including the sourcing and the expertise of the brand. You can try to make a jacket like this for 35 dollars in Vietnam and you ll never get same result even if you feel like it in your excitement
Bro stone is first a cultural thing. I’m Italian and we are wearing stone since the late 80’s. Then the phenomenon started also in UK now everyone is wearing stone or fake stones. Eventually you will never get the real soul and meaning of the brand as we do. It’s not a technical matter… ciao
So interesting! I’d love to see an Arcteryx jacket and know more about the Gore-tex fabric
I was about to comment the same. Arcteryx would be really interesting
Got it! Joe can really dive into the technical aspect of bonded fabrics!
Patagonia needs a deep dive.
Arc'teryx is worth $10 max biggest rip off ever
@@Repcitykickz I own some Arc'teryx jackets and a pair of pants. They all hold up extremely well but idk
Would love to see you dissect and analyze a pair of Japanese raw denim. Momotaro, Iron Heart, etc. For the quality and price I’m shocked if there was a better bang for your buck.
That's a great idea! We've been trying to get Joe to do another pair of denim. I think he's been avoiding denim because it takes so long to take appart 🤣
@@Shiftfashiongroupshould definitely do a japanese denim! momotaro is a well known brand but there is a canadian denim brand that is made in canada called naked and famous that uses japanese denim
Man, I remember back in the 90s when stone island was expensive but still fairly affordable now the prices are ridiculous.
Yeah, it was better when it was made in Italy, rather than Turkey!
Not that these aren't well-made or that there is anything wrong with Vietnamese manufacturing but it still seems kind of disappointing that for this kind of money, these clothes aren't made in Japan, Europe or the US. I guess this has to do with manufacturing capabilities as well. Vietnam surely has better access to modern machines for making clothes.
I've learned to look past focusing on the country of origin when buying clothes. The 'Made in Italy' label is associated with prestigious high end clothing, but the reality is that any country can manufacture high quality garments. There are plenty of poor quality clothes made in Italy, USA, etc. It all comes down to how much the manufacturing facility cares about producing a high quality garment.
@MichaelRWave I applaud your approach and can appreciate quality for sure. I just would also like to know that A. the workers are being treated well and paid fairly and B. the workers take pride in what they are crafting and are allowed to take their time in order to pay more attention to the details they're working on. I know it's a bit of an idealised view but I just enjoy having those thoughts when wearing something I spent a lot of money on. With that said I just bought two The North Face purple label jackets that are made in China and they are certainly well-made. Next jacket will be made in Japan though.
The average salary in Vietnam is only like $700 a month, I just don't think companies will ever be incentivized to manufacture in the US unless we completely switch to AI automated assembly lines for clothing, but then we would absolutely lose your romantic vision of the workers being treated well and taking pride in what they are crafting and paying attention to the finer details of the garments etc because there would be a lot less workers or artisans involved when automation shrinks those job positions from 10 to 1.
It would be nice if they paid Vietnamese a decent wage.
I guess it comes down to the quality control on the other end and also the quality management systems a European company have to adhere to. 9001 and CE accreditations
0:10 😂😂😂😂 yooo
I used to own a lot of SI pieces but sold them all when it started to become really common and stopped being made in Italy. Obviously it's less expensive for the company to have things made in Turkey etc, but I find it interesting that the prices of the garments didn't fall along with their production costs.
Prices increased
Do Patagonia. My personal fav, personally I find their clothes generally hold up well and then repair policy is good 🙌
Hey we can add it to the list! What garment would you like to see being reviewed?
@@Shiftfashiongroup ooh thanks! Probably one of the down jackets. I’ve been debating the light weight ones for winter hikes, I’ve got the down drift jacket and it’s amazing, I’m wondering if the light weight ones are too considering how thin they might be and if they’re prone to snagging or tearing.
@@Shiftfashiongroup Nano Air Hoody might be an interesting one to review. In terms of shirts, maybe just the basic Capilene Midweight crew
That's crazy! I wonder how the Shadow Project line would be different with their regular Stoney jacket. Almost close to an Acronym piece now, now that I would love to see if its worth the price to pay for.
Errolson definitely had a eye for details when he did the shadow project items!
$35 to manufacture in Vietnam and $800 retail?? Crazy.
was thinking the same.. 20x markup is just insane
It's all about what a customer is willing to pay at the end of the day!
@@Shiftfashiongroup totally agree! their jackets are nonetheless great! It was just a bit painful to realize😂 you are educating, but hurting the owners at the same time😁
I think this might be we are seeing a race to the bottom for clothing. It’s a huge guessing game for the customer, they don’t trust the pricing. I wish prices included the market up %age. Then you’d truely know what you are paying for
It’s not costing that
Bought a stone island jacket for 1000 and the buttons that were ribbited on began to fall off in 2 years with maybe 15 wears over the winter season
I do love stone island but there is other brands for you to check out like nigel cabourn
We'll look into it!
Can we see a jacket series? I live in Canada and we see a lot of parkas. Wondering what makes them so special/warm and if it’s worth it..!
Parkas are just long jackets, what make any clothing warm is the same, having a layer of air between you and the environment acting as insulation since air is a poor conductor of heat, acting as a barrier between the heat generated by your body and the cold air outside.
Love the content, but the music in this one is not it. Feels like I'm watching an action movie. Maybe something more chill/relaxed for the next one.
Appreciate the feedback!
I currently own 12 Stone Island Jacket and Coats. Mixed between Shadow Project and in-line. Have had some for over 7 years and they are still holding up great. Have something similar to that one you just destroyed in my collection and it’s one of my favorites also.
Can you do Arcteryx next?
Velour Garments Spain. I have 3 of their hoodies. They say they make luxury blanks but its the worst made hoodie i have experienced in my life. They keep sending me defects. I want to send you one of my defected hoodies to review, if u can help pay for some of it. Let me know thanks
also its brand new.
We'll buy one to review!
I find the music and multi-camera jump cut editing distracting from an otherwise great series.
Thanks for the feedback! We'll take this into consideration when we film our next video!
AMAZING CONTENT !!!! NOTHING LIKE YOU AND WILL
Appreciate you!
y'all are killing it. insane to think what the cost of making these vs. developing them must be... or is it all hype?
Appreciate it! A significant portion is definitely marketing.
Did I miss wherever you gave your opinion on whether it’s worth it?
What brands are actually worth the price from 20-100 any feedback from the comments are appreciated as well thanks
Zara, H&M, Anything you can find at Marshall’s and Old Navy, Gap- all have great quality clothing in that range
Great work, i really hope you keep doing this like forever haha. Would love to see a BEFORE & AFTER for brands like Offwhite and Bape (before and after NIGO left the brand and before and after Virgil passing away)
Appreciate it! Lots more to come!
Hah thanks for another great video! Thanks for donating your cloth for the show! Could you review YoungLA’s clothing next time? Feels like it’s one of the fastest growing brand right now!
Yes it's on order!
What about the R&D cost? Great video
would love to see you do some Bape pieces, maybe a hoodie or shirt
Bapes on the list!
Subbed and binging thru your videos! Very helpful content! Can you do hoodie reviews of the retail and expensive brands? Start with abercrombie hoodie, I have one and I really love it
Love your channel. It is so interesting
Great idea! We make alot of soft goods like back packs and totes for our clients. We could definetly start doing reviews of those!
Thank you dude, amazing work. Pls don’t stop
Acronym please, outrageously expensive👍
What about a $1100 one, asking for a friend?
Great video. I'm learning so much watching your content. Thanks!
Good to see that ur channel is growing u def deserve it. Beside Will lasry ur my second channel for watching anything that has to do with QC / manufacturing or clothing test. I think it's great u keep most opinion impartial and don't really have any bias views on the items u review.
Appreciate! We want to show so much more behind the scenes of the fashion industry
You should do Eric Emanuel
Need to see some of Kanye’s different labels compared. Yeezy Gap, Yeezy Gap Balenciaga, Yeezy Season etc.
Great idea!
Yeezy Season is good, at least Season 5. My cousin manufactured a lot of the stuff in Italy. I have some of the faulty pieces and they have so much work done on them.
commenting to show love for the channel! thanks for donating your jacket 😂
Appreciate it!!
Acne studios up next?!
We've done a video on one of their tops!
Stone Island must be pissing themselves laughing that people pay small fortunes for jackets made of basically nylon 🤣
Your paying 90% brand tax just to stick a label that saids stone island. stupid.
Jacket 'liner'!
This is one of those brands I will never understand. The logo is a rip off of nautica and why would someone spend $800 plus on this and not get a Moose Knuckle or Canadian Goose - this review was fan biased lol
Stone Island has been around longer than Nautica, and their logos aren't even remotely similar.
Stone Island's is a nautical compass and Nautica's is a sailboat.
I knew you'd be American. Muricans think they invented everything.
Stone Island is older than Nautica. Nautica changed their logo too.
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$30-35 lol
Stone island overpriced , also the designs are not as nice
I love your videos but you re misleading peoples with this one.
The fabrics of the jackets are shipped PFD from Italy from supplier like Limonta or majochi. Even if nylon is often looked up like a cheap fabric by certain the cost from those factories for it in pfd is more like 8 to 13 euro by meters. You have to add the shipping fees to it + duties just to ship trims and fabric.the badge cost nowhere around 25 cents it’s made in Italy you can check factories like texcart it will cost more between 2 to 4 euro. You can contact texcart factory and ask a quotation for a similar patch and you will be surprise.
Then all garment made overseas are shipped PFD to Stone Island then garment dyed in house or in an Italian dye house like washitalia spa or similar to this one. Then. They add the badge, the care label and some other trims and then they pack it.
Stone island use the same way to other garments or bags they receive it pfd and dye it. So what i would tell is that jacket cost more like 60 euro to make including shipping to 35 dollars. It can still look like a big margin for certain but it’s the price you pay for development of original sample and production process they putted in place including the sourcing and the expertise of the brand. You can try to make a jacket like this for 35 dollars in Vietnam and you ll never get same result even if you feel like it in your excitement
it's still overpriced shite. Splitting hairs over production cost is irrelevant unless you have buyers remorse...
Another one who's drunk the Kool Aid.
Bro stone is first a cultural thing. I’m Italian and we are wearing stone since the late 80’s. Then the phenomenon started also in UK now everyone is wearing stone or fake stones. Eventually you will never get the real soul and meaning of the brand as we do. It’s not a technical matter… ciao
New jackets? Absolutely not. If you want a proper stone island jacket don’t buy anything made after 2010ish
Liking and commenting so you get the cost of the jacket back 🫶
haha Appreciate it!
Never clicked that fast on a video 🫶🏼
That zipperpull was hurtfull to watch, i felt the pain. All for the science!
Absolutely!