Against the Odds: Chatterfang Combos 🟢⚫ Historic MTG Gameplay & Deck Tech

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @edwinsiefert9925
    @edwinsiefert9925 3 года назад +52

    If you have two squirrels tokens
    chatterfang pitiless plunder also makes infinite mana. Sac one squirrel targeting the other token both die so two treasure and two new squirrels, use the ability again using one treasure get two more treasure. Lots of clicks but essentially game winning with cards in hand.

    • @snakeman830
      @snakeman830 3 года назад +3

      You can just sac both squirrels at once to Chatterfang's ability. No need to use one to kill the other.

    • @poiri
      @poiri 3 года назад +3

      @@snakeman830 you need a target for the ability, so unless your opponent has an infinite board to target, targeting your own squirrel is the only way to go infinite here

    • @ToxicallyMasculinelol
      @ToxicallyMasculinelol 3 года назад

      @@snakeman830 no, you need to sac a squirrel to use the ability. if you sac both at once the ability has no target unless you target one of your actual creatures, in which case the combo is no longer infinite.

    • @Egovinco98
      @Egovinco98 3 года назад +4

      @@poiri no,
      to activate an ability per the rules you select the targets before you pay the cost. so you give target squirrel token -1/-1 and later to pay for the ability sac the same token (+ a second one).
      The ability fizzles due to no legal targets but you still sacced your 2 tokens and get 2 treasures and 2 new tokens.
      The only thing this does is reduce clicks tho, afaik as i can tell, so only purpose is for arena?

    • @AricHaldan0782
      @AricHaldan0782 3 года назад +1

      @@poiri if you have full control or you're playing in paper, you should be able to activate the ability on the same creature an infinite amount of times without letting a single instance resolve. After all, the activated ability is put on the stack first and the plunderer and chatterfang triggers are put on top of the activated ability.

  • @o8240000
    @o8240000 3 года назад +69

    12:52 miss lethal? Take 2, wrath the board with 11 creatures including woe strider. Blood Artist drains for 10 while Woe Strider's power stays at 3, for total of 13?

    • @elizabethbauer3798
      @elizabethbauer3798 3 года назад +12

      Yeah idk why he'd sac away his artist on such a dense board when he's about to sweep

    • @elesh.n
      @elesh.n 3 года назад +25

      @@elizabethbauer3798 Probably forgot it counts opponent's creatures

    • @TheMCGamer2012
      @TheMCGamer2012 3 года назад +2

      correct, blood artist is both sides

    • @alexnas9634
      @alexnas9634 3 года назад +1

      i was gonna say he could of said Vampire wiped the board and drained them

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  3 года назад +25

      Hmm, yeah, for some reason I wasn't remembering that Blood Artist triggers on opposing creatures too.

  • @bryantan4228
    @bryantan4228 3 года назад +1

    22:56 Missed lethal. Discard Innkeeper for Pitiless Plunderer, play Plunderer tapping every land but Tower. You can use the Woe Strider loop to make infinite Treasure and squirrels, then nuke the opponent’s board while scrying Blood Artist to the top.
    Then jam Yawg, draw Artist, and win

  • @austinmairet1772
    @austinmairet1772 3 года назад +29

    This deck didn’t even feel against the odds. Small sample size, but you might have accidentally built a tier 2-3 legitimate deck. Love it.

  • @BlaineTog
    @BlaineTog 3 года назад +41

    In case you didn't get enough squirrels from Pauper, Seth has you covered.

  • @ryanbolson23
    @ryanbolson23 Год назад +1

    17:42 I love Seth trying to put a -1 counter on the player and being absolutely confused

  • @sglied1320
    @sglied1320 3 года назад +3

    That last game, Chef’s kiss! I’m kinda want to turn my Yawgmoth edh deck into chatterfang now lmao! Great video.

  • @last7116
    @last7116 3 года назад +21

    Seth, Grafdigger's Cage doesn't turn off Indomitable Creativity, Creativity plays things from exile not library. Anyway, yet another great deck and video! Fauna Shaman was MVP in that G1 against Elves, freakin awesome.

  • @DramaRules123
    @DramaRules123 3 года назад +4

    At 43:18 you could of played chatterfang dies to legend rule get a squirrel token and wrath his whole board

    • @dougiedoug7543
      @dougiedoug7543 3 года назад

      I was watching this and thought that same thing! Glad it was caught

    • @DramaRules123
      @DramaRules123 3 года назад +1

      @@dougiedoug7543 Was so excited for the draw then he scooped D:

  • @richardcampos6930
    @richardcampos6930 3 года назад +2

    You beautiful bastard. You had me at, "It gets a bit more convoluted"...

  • @zachgray4767
    @zachgray4767 3 года назад +2

    Willingly sacrificing the Blood Artist immediately before wrathing a huge board.
    I cry evertim

  • @stefanellrodt52
    @stefanellrodt52 3 года назад +1

    I see Squirrels and I am immediatly in love. Gonna give this deck a try.

  • @yospeer
    @yospeer 3 года назад +1

    Super cool deck. Love your work @saffronolive!
    1 missed interaction though: with plunderer/chatterfang, if you sac 2 or more squirrels instead of 1 you actually get infinite mana, instead of just breaking even on mana, you can also hold priority instead of waiting for the ability to resolve, because Plunderer works when it’s sacked and not when the ability resolves, so you can do it infinitely even if the opponent only have just 1 small creature…

  • @sushii2024
    @sushii2024 3 года назад +1

    I play chatterfang in historic brawl. Pro tip, if your opponent has no creatures to target with chatterfang you can target the squirrel token you will sac to chatterfangs ability to keep getting death triggers for plunderer instead of targeting your other creatures since the target happens before needing to sac for the cost.

  • @cptawesome11
    @cptawesome11 3 года назад +19

    Pitiless Plunderer is more expensive than every rare in Rivals of Ixalan save for one. Who woulda thought!

    • @Ghost26968
      @Ghost26968 3 года назад +2

      The card is actually bonkers, its a combo machine in Commander.

  • @gretchling5012
    @gretchling5012 3 года назад +4

    56:05
    as a wise man once said - "you're winning the game! put a ham sandwich on top of my library for all i care!"

  • @nicklittle8399
    @nicklittle8399 3 года назад +8

    13:00 Don't you get enough triggers off of Blood Artist to kill them in 2 swings if you keep it around for the board wipe?

  • @MrShinyObject
    @MrShinyObject 3 года назад +2

    Chatterfang + plunderer + 2 squirrel tokens is infinite mana. Sac one squirrel to kill the other (or any other of your 1/1s) and you'll get two treasures and two squirrels. Rinse and repeat for infinite treasures.

  • @jpankhurst82
    @jpankhurst82 3 года назад +3

    I've been playing Yawgmoth / Hapatra / Nest of Scarabs combo in Historic for a couple of weeks now but will have to try it with Chatterfang. Fauna Shaman is a great choice for tutoring the pieces.

    • @MysteryMiyagi
      @MysteryMiyagi 3 года назад +1

      This is the only deck i've played since Arena came out haha. I love Hapatra/tokens. Minus Chatterfang/Yawgmoth till recently. They really blow up the board man it's crazy.
      I might recommend trying to run one of's/more of these cards as well. They have good synergy along with the cards above.
      Lolth, The Spider Queen
      Carnifex Demon
      The Scorpion God
      Ammit Eternal
      Valentin/Lisette

    • @ComfyDents
      @ComfyDents 3 года назад +1

      @@MysteryMiyagi I played a Hapatra deck during standard. Was super fun to yank out the older people who play expensive decks.
      Cleaning the bord with Archdemon of Ifnir and Key to the city or cycle was so fun.

    • @MysteryMiyagi
      @MysteryMiyagi 3 года назад

      @@ComfyDents Archdemon of Ifnir and Key to the City is another wombo combo I love too! Watching people's creature's wither while your board steadily grows is a different kind of satisfaction when it works of course haha

  • @WitherFang
    @WitherFang 3 года назад +2

    12:56 You had Lethal if you didn't sacrifice your Blood Artist. The crippling fear would trigger him 10 times and leave a room for you to swing in for lethal with Woe Strider.

  • @andrealmeida6831
    @andrealmeida6831 3 года назад +1

    Good ol' Chad-derfang

  • @troyinman7227
    @troyinman7227 3 года назад +2

    at 43:19 can't you legend rule yourself to get a death trigger, which will then create a treasure and a squirrel, to machine gun down the board?

    • @TherealLaserdog
      @TherealLaserdog 3 года назад

      no losing a creature to legend rule isn't considered a death trigger as far as I understand

    • @Firebert
      @Firebert 3 года назад +1

      @@TherealLaserdog Incorrect

    • @LegendLeaguer
      @LegendLeaguer 3 года назад

      @@TherealLaserdog you have to sacrifice one, so they die.

    • @TherealLaserdog
      @TherealLaserdog 3 года назад

      @@LegendLeaguer 704.5j. If a player controls two or more legendary permanents with the same name, that player chooses one of them, and the rest are put into their owners' graveyards. This is called the “legend rule.”
      They aren't sacrificed, they go into the graveyard

  • @kbloSnack
    @kbloSnack 3 года назад

    It just cracks me up every time Seth says "infiniNte"

  • @tonycole340
    @tonycole340 3 года назад +2

    A squirrel, a pirate, a halfling innkeeper, and the Father of Machines walk into a bar...

  • @RafaelAAMerlo
    @RafaelAAMerlo 3 года назад

    Surprisingly good. Gave me an idea for a cEDH deck, thanks

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody 3 года назад

    I think the soon-to-rotate *Bastion of Rememberance* could be a good *Blood Artist* backup. The human token could also be relevant if *Chatterfang* is already on!

  • @wassupyall3881
    @wassupyall3881 2 года назад

    Deck seems really fun might have to build it lol

  • @ryanbolson23
    @ryanbolson23 3 года назад

    53:48 isn’t blue just such a FUN color to play against?! DIDN’T YOU HAVE FUN?!?!!

  • @scootermcg9910
    @scootermcg9910 3 года назад

    "squirrels are greater then humans, today we learned" lol

  • @Jesterhead971
    @Jesterhead971 3 года назад

    I can see Chatterfang being a really good Commander with all those combo-possibilities. Maybe throw some token generators, tutors, protection, actual squirrels and populating in there as well and it should be a quite good deck 🤔

  • @christianpaone1565
    @christianpaone1565 3 года назад

    These vids are so cool! Is there a way to skip the boring first parts of getting the game?

  • @Luke_Himself
    @Luke_Himself 3 года назад

    nice vid. thanks seth

  • @jeremyphillips3087
    @jeremyphillips3087 3 года назад

    This deck is fun.

  • @lexnaum
    @lexnaum 3 года назад

    Idk if you need a face cam in the deck list. It completely covered up the number of Fauna Shamans in the deck

  • @kmb1800
    @kmb1800 3 года назад

    38:45 am i missing something? whhy does blood artist trigger? doesn't the replacement effect mean blood artist shouldn't see itself die because it's exiled instead?

    • @robinsharif9551
      @robinsharif9551 3 года назад

      The blood artist isn't technically dealt damage by the spell because of soul-scar mage, so the replacement effect never happens.

  • @LegendLeaguer
    @LegendLeaguer 3 года назад

    43:16 you drew the board wipe and decide to concede?

  • @REON-pw5ze
    @REON-pw5ze Год назад

    43:18 that board was about to be wrath'd if you played chatter, it would died because the legend rule, hence creating a squirrel and a treasure.....too early to scoop

  • @FTWDanzig
    @FTWDanzig 3 года назад

    The triple block was also a mistake by you as your opponent could have stacked all the damage on one blood artist, but the attack was also a mistake as chumping with the elf was good.

  • @Borkybaby
    @Borkybaby Год назад

    That face at 25 seconds haha

  • @TomGalonska
    @TomGalonska 3 года назад

    Double Coco, into Bola's Citadel into a 3rd Coco? I hope this opponent had clothes for cold weather, because if this is not magical christmas land, nothing is! :D

  • @Idk-pu6yb
    @Idk-pu6yb 3 года назад

    Why not run finale of devastation? As like a 2 or 3 of

  • @alexandrejesus8709
    @alexandrejesus8709 3 года назад

    With a few more creatures you could fit co.co. there

  • @justinayran
    @justinayran 3 года назад

    You can target the same squirrel token that you'll sac.

  • @alexleblanc6364
    @alexleblanc6364 3 года назад

    As enjoyable as this match was, I'd love to see you construct a deck around Lonis, the true Investisnake

  • @CodenameJD
    @CodenameJD 3 года назад

    You kept saying you needed Chatterfang and a sac outlet. With Pitiless Plunderer and a squirrel, Chatterfang IS your sac outlet. Especially if you have multiple plunderers or multiple squirrels to start.

  • @ruesifus
    @ruesifus 3 года назад

    I am rubbing my greedy hands together to build this Modern with heartless summoning, because you don't even need a sac outlet to combo with those two use Cruel Celebrant and Falkenrath Noble instead of Blood Artist... Grim Haruspex for infinite card draw... hoo boy!

  • @midnightmonty
    @midnightmonty 3 года назад +1

    You missed your chance against the burn deck, could of played the second chatterfang and gotten a treasure there and sweep his board at least

    • @snakeman830
      @snakeman830 3 года назад

      Glad I'm not the only one who saw this line. Granted, since it was burn and he was at 1, chance of winning was still really low.

  • @alexlewis37
    @alexlewis37 3 года назад

    Does CoCo not have enough hits to make the deck?

  • @johnmeier1
    @johnmeier1 3 года назад

    Collected Company: What am I to you?

  • @dustyfox6511
    @dustyfox6511 3 года назад +1

    Not sure about the play losing the bloodartist when you could just keep the blood artist and drain them for 9 then swing for 3 for game...

  • @evankraabel5415
    @evankraabel5415 3 года назад

    Seth, if your blood artists dies along with 11 other creatures in a wrath, you deal 12 damage to the opponent.

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc 3 года назад

    Seth.... please read what Blood Artist does...

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc 3 года назад

    14:45 Seth... you have 9+ power over 5 creatures and opponent has 6 life and one blocker.... I've never seen anybody throw away lethal twice within the span of like 2 minutes

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi 3 года назад

    I've never understood why Arena resolves cracking Treasures for mana so slowly.

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ 3 года назад

      Everything about Arena is slow.

  • @paolomigliorati6141
    @paolomigliorati6141 3 года назад

    I admit it, for some time I forgot how disgusting the value golgari is capable of

  • @brandontucker2050
    @brandontucker2050 3 года назад

    Why no coco?!?

  • @shizukajonouchi2562
    @shizukajonouchi2562 4 месяца назад

    Come tomorrow, don't think this will be "against the odds"

  • @zachgray4767
    @zachgray4767 3 года назад

    Huh. Soul-Scar Mage stops Pillar of Flame from exiling what it hits.

  • @kraddark13
    @kraddark13 3 года назад +7

    The final match you kept thoutsieze in hand knowing there were counterspells coming, and instead of using it to weed out the counter spell, you decided to dump all your mana into the one thing you could cast for the turn, ensuring it would get countered. Thoutsieze isn't just a turn 1 only play. It's especially useful when your opponent is running "counter or pay x" spells, since it has such a low cost. You gave up that game and that was very disappointing.

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ 3 года назад +4

      Have you actually watched Seth play for any length of time? He seems to be quite knowledgeable about the game, but he constantly punts away wins. I would imagine that it isn't all that easy to play to 100% while being so chatty and entertaining.

  • @aliensshi6656
    @aliensshi6656 3 года назад

    Game three match one at 13 minutes why did you sack the blood artist you would’ve gotten so many triggers

  • @canismajor1186
    @canismajor1186 3 года назад +2

    The quality of Woe Strider during the deck tech was quite low.

  • @chubzoid
    @chubzoid 3 года назад

    Yaaaa

  • @douglasingersoll7486
    @douglasingersoll7486 3 года назад

    Hello 🙂

  • @santyricon
    @santyricon 3 года назад

    I love your videos Seth, but I have to point something out:
    You always reminds me of Aunt Lydia from The handmaid's tale with a beard

  • @johnremembers7780
    @johnremembers7780 3 года назад

    Sorry I just don't want anything to do with Squirrel Decks anymore. Because if anyone hasn't noticed the price of Nuts nowadays is costly.

  • @theturtlebot1584
    @theturtlebot1584 3 года назад

    Squirrels

  • @MasterMetabee
    @MasterMetabee 3 года назад

    S Q U I R R E L S ! ! !

  • @jameshanus3813
    @jameshanus3813 3 года назад

    Thank you for not doing squirrel tribal!

  • @drunkenmaster077
    @drunkenmaster077 3 года назад

    many misplays....

  • @RatRatham
    @RatRatham 3 года назад

    Way too much historic and standard lately.

  • @wetwillyis_1881
    @wetwillyis_1881 3 года назад +1

    Hapatra, Yawgmoth, and Chatterfang! This is like a fever dream of just meme cards that everyone wants to work. Seth, you are a gift to us jank lord brewers.