I called this Falcon's best matchup. Time to prove it.

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Комментарии • 196

  • @Otto-Maximilien
    @Otto-Maximilien Год назад +675

    Respect to Kirby Kid for dealing with a tough matchup.

    • @daviddivers155
      @daviddivers155 Год назад +9

      Facts

    • @erickalvarez6486
      @erickalvarez6486 Год назад

      That is hard to tell, obviously we're in Fatality's side but maybe Kirby Kid things is easier for Roll since the shield or who knows. I mean the combos mean nothing, is a big heavy so he might be used to lmao

    • @captainmurphy4949
      @captainmurphy4949 Год назад +13

      That’s probably how fatality feels against G&W

    • @j0hnnybrav01
      @j0hnnybrav01 Год назад +2

      Dealing with it? You mean accepting to just being a punching bag/combo video 😅.

    • @davidsalomon7968
      @davidsalomon7968 Год назад +2

      Major respect for sure

  • @shoegaze3750
    @shoegaze3750 Год назад +621

    as always the commentary from coney and tk is hilarious 😂

  • @verbage432
    @verbage432 Год назад +270

    jesus christ, I think Mufasa had a better chance against Scar at ledge than K.Rool does against Falcon in this MU

  • @lukekulp2997
    @lukekulp2997 Год назад +162

    The “Yuck” from Coney killed me on the nair 1 to knee kill 😂

    • @ether2275
      @ether2275 Год назад +3

      It is pretty yucky how Falcon is just allowed to have that shit. But he aint the only one with such bs ways to kill.

    • @Vic_714
      @Vic_714 Год назад +1

      @@ether2275 It's only fair when he has zero projectiles or any of that magic sauce.

    • @Vic_714
      @Vic_714 Год назад +1

      @@ether2275 Also has to land perfectly.

  • @AlexanderLopez-lu2rq
    @AlexanderLopez-lu2rq Год назад +57

    "You're never beating me with that character" at 4:17

  • @vapeshrimp5220
    @vapeshrimp5220 Год назад +207

    Honestly props to kirbykid for sticking it out, made for a super entertaining set. It’s good for the longevity of the game

    • @likenoother6561
      @likenoother6561 Год назад +8

      idk if this was super entertaining it was straight up murder. lol

    • @TheSpartanlaw
      @TheSpartanlaw Год назад +1

      > Smash ultimate
      > Longevity
      choose 1

    • @ChitoMcBoom
      @ChitoMcBoom Год назад +3

      How can you give one guy props but not the other? They both would’ve played regardless of the match ups. Make it make sense lol

    • @likenoother6561
      @likenoother6561 Год назад

      @@ChitoMcBoom nah . Falcon had it easy. This is literally free for him.

    • @ChitoMcBoom
      @ChitoMcBoom Год назад

      @@likenoother6561 the player bracket is wide open for players to counter pick yet throwing shade for one's main is ok? make it make sense lol

  • @Spyder-Marth
    @Spyder-Marth Год назад +293

    I knew Fatality was gonna win this one. Sometimes it's best to counterpick, folks. No shame in it and no disrespect to Kirbykid

    • @meanyomama
      @meanyomama Год назад +3

      i assume this comment is for the babies watching this video?

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth Год назад +45

      @@meanyomama ?

    • @calebw8189
      @calebw8189 Год назад +29

      @@meanyomama ??

    • @Jackpauler4lyfe
      @Jackpauler4lyfe Год назад +134

      mr Saturn is on his villain arc

    • @DunkTasticMan
      @DunkTasticMan Год назад +28

      Honestly I’ve talked to Kirby kid and he said that he’s very loyal to his character and as a krool main that’s very true for me as well.

  • @Spyder-Marth
    @Spyder-Marth Год назад +14

    That random "FALCON KICK" at the very end is hilarious tho. I actually got startled, which is even funnier 💀 😅 🤣

  • @destroyer0011
    @destroyer0011 Год назад +30

    As soon as I saw the King K Rool Matchup, I was like "Uh oh Kirbykid is going to have a really really bad time"

  • @underbandit2372
    @underbandit2372 Год назад +11

    2:04 At this part is when I really started to feel bad for KirbyKid. Because at this point he literally just needed a miracle to pull through the match

  • @drcreed6320
    @drcreed6320 Год назад +13

    3:55 Tk is my goat thats mad funny 😂😂

  • @A_Shut-in_NEET
    @A_Shut-in_NEET Год назад +3

    Fatality said "Goodnight girl"

  • @THS_Anton633
    @THS_Anton633 Год назад +23

    “One of the most rotten players” Wise words from Coney

  • @SparklingHarmony
    @SparklingHarmony Год назад +6

    When I saw this matchup, I immediately thought of your Falcon tier list haha

  • @starmantheta2028
    @starmantheta2028 Год назад +48

    Running into Fatality in pools has got to be some of the worst bracket luck for KirbyKid. To put it in perspective, KK does better against Sparg0 than he does Fatality.

    • @coachjoshgames
      @coachjoshgames Год назад

      wut really? is that character matchup really that much better or is it something about sparg0's playing style that kirbykid does better with? genuinely curious

    • @starmantheta2028
      @starmantheta2028 Год назад +4

      @@coachjoshgames No, the match-up really is that ass. Cloud is still good in that MU, mind, but k rool is generally better at contesting him and Cloud still needs to navigate Krown and Blunderbuss which can mess up his approaches. Not only that but Cloud is way easier for k rool to edge guard so he can't get too cocky.
      Falcon, on the other hand, massacres K Rool and shuts down pretty much his entire kit. Falcon can convert nearly any stray hit into a combo that kills; Fatality described it as making K Rool into a MvC2 character. He's way too fast to safely zone out because he can easily avoid projectiles and get in before k rool can recover, making playing a keep away game or controlling neutral basically impossible. K rool gets whiff punished extra hard. Not only that, falcon can edge guard k rool easily by dropping from ledge then doing reverse up b; normally most characters won't do this because k rool can go lower than they can safely drop down to contest, but since falcon's command grab Refreshes his up b he can do it ad nauseum.
      I'm a K Rool believer, and many of his bad match-ups are heavily exaggerated, but this match-up is just excruciating.

    • @coachjoshgames
      @coachjoshgames Год назад +2

      @@starmantheta2028 ahh ic ic. thanks for the in-depth breakdown btw! super appreciate it the technical analysis!

  • @javiermoreno5898
    @javiermoreno5898 Год назад +1

    Nice to see KirbyKid’s improv and preparation, but against the top of the bunch, matchups show their colors and boy that was tough

  • @levijessegonzalez3629
    @levijessegonzalez3629 Год назад +3

    i think any fatality fan that was watching this live KNEW what the end result was going to be

  • @SergeantButters
    @SergeantButters Год назад +46

    I'm a k. rool main and that down tilt ruined my day 1:16

    • @TheAmazingDom
      @TheAmazingDom Год назад +1

      batshit like that is my least favorite thing about playing heavies.

    • @SergeantButters
      @SergeantButters Год назад

      @@TheAmazingDom :(

  • @zachery2243
    @zachery2243 Год назад +1

    “My brother in Christ you picked the character “ has me weak af 😭😭

  • @f25mart
    @f25mart Год назад +5

    The fact that this video is only 4 minutes long tells me everything I need to know.

  • @boston5559
    @boston5559 Год назад +10

    Even as a decent K.rool pocket, i wouldn't have never ever thought about that smartest option coming from the best 1:38

    • @isaiahthechristiangamer8716
      @isaiahthechristiangamer8716 Год назад +1

      I don’t play K. Rool, but shouldn’t he had recovered low to ledge?

    • @312bigbeanburrito
      @312bigbeanburrito Год назад +3

      @@isaiahthechristiangamer8716 Fatality is really good at covering low

    • @tresseis8944
      @tresseis8944 Год назад

      Honestly. Gonna steal it

    • @fidel_soto
      @fidel_soto Год назад

      hahhaha what do you mean? It's obvious you have to recover high against some characters (like Cpt Falcon in this case)

  • @TheCrusadingKING
    @TheCrusadingKING Год назад

    How is it that you look perpetually calm but also perpetually angry lol

  • @superkulty64
    @superkulty64 Год назад +11

    As someone who used to play K Rool before retiring, I always find the Falcon matchup kinda fun despite how horrible it is. I know K Rool is basically combo food for the matchup, but I also like Falcon a lot (which may explain). I think this matchup is basically a good starting point of how good your neutral and punish game as Falcon is or anyone who is trying to learn the character completely from scratch.

    • @lcppproductions7910
      @lcppproductions7910 Год назад

      It's weird because professionally I can see why this would be a broken matchup for Falcon, but casually or picking up the character it's actually kind of challenging because you might not be use to chaining moves together or keeping the agression on. You also have to be good at baiting out moves or else you'll get destroyed by the armor. My roommate used to kill my Falcon with this character. I only one once but it felt like a gargantuan mental effort just to finally get that one win.

    • @superkulty64
      @superkulty64 Год назад

      @@lcppproductions7910 K Rool - Falcon is actually one of my favorite matchups to watch, but it's for completely different reasons than say Falcon - Falco. I always find that matchup interesting at different levels of play. Top level, that matchup sucks for K Rool, but at low level, I could see this matchup being even. The reason why I said that K Rool is a good matchup to start with for learning Falcon (although not my most recommended) is that you not only practice the basics on how to move Falcon around, but you can also practice basic combos and kill confirms. Since K Rool has such a big hurtbox, it's more lenient for Falcon to get his combos right as opposed to someone like Pikachu (f*** this character). It may feel mentally hard at first since K Rool can be quite annoying if you don't know what to do against him, but he's very duable. K Rool is actually one of my favorite characters to fight in the whole game regardless of who I play, even the ditto.

    • @lcppproductions7910
      @lcppproductions7910 Год назад +1

      @@superkulty64 I think kill confirms is really what makes the difference. It's easy to get combos off, but what makes the matchup "easy"/heavily in Falcon's favor is figuring out how to land combos into knee/dair/even bair offstage so that you can kill K-Rool without having to rack up damage to absurdly high percents.

    • @superkulty64
      @superkulty64 Год назад

      @@lcppproductions7910 exactly. I heavily think K Rool is a good skill check for Falcon on how consistent you are at landing your kill confirms against heavies. Legit the only way K Rool can win this matchup is either if the Falcon player does not know what he's doing or the Kroc just heavily relies on cheese (which is still not easy to do considering his options are super telegraphed).

  • @yabbadabbindude
    @yabbadabbindude Год назад +1

    Kudos to the K Rool player for not giving up

  • @SparkyForce
    @SparkyForce Год назад

    oof that ending, glad to see fatality hitting those tho

  • @luislebronaponte2737
    @luislebronaponte2737 Год назад

    1:17
    Inspirational
    Moving
    Educational
    Would recommend

  • @ryanscibetta3214
    @ryanscibetta3214 Год назад

    K.Rool is Shelly Duvall in The Shining, and Neutral Air is the bathroom door she’s using to hide from Jack Torrence

  • @ringothefly6514
    @ringothefly6514 Год назад +1

    I don't remember Super Smash Bros. Melee looking this clean!

  • @DawsonNeece
    @DawsonNeece Год назад +1

    Fatality is so goated

  • @Carson9121
    @Carson9121 Год назад +2

    Good lord that was insane! That definitely is a bad match up for krool. 👀😂🤣

  • @kracin
    @kracin Год назад

    Lots of time the Krool could use down-B to reflect an attack thats ledgeguarding him.... It's like people are completely opposed to using the reflect even when it makes sense.

  • @DaNVe652
    @DaNVe652 Год назад

    Man you're amazing

  • @sonimatic
    @sonimatic Год назад

    Shoutout to Coney for the space mount tee shirt

  • @BloopTheNoop
    @BloopTheNoop Год назад

    I knew it was Coney once he mentioned the hat

  • @DauntlessBlade___
    @DauntlessBlade___ Год назад

    Love the gameplay

  • @Blastros01
    @Blastros01 Год назад +6

    Kirby Kid did really well considering a lot of that was just unavoidable. Ult's meta for top players will probably revolve around people who have at least 2 mains for counter picks or just play Steve

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming Год назад

    1:16 oh hell nah brother

  • @cornlourd
    @cornlourd Год назад +1

    yup. It's one of those matchups where you just accept your fate. I don't even think krool fans are mad about it lol

  • @shinjinator100
    @shinjinator100 Год назад

    You guessed right!

  • @LordHypnos4
    @LordHypnos4 Год назад +2

    I love watching kirby kids krool

  • @Dwamning_YT4262
    @Dwamning_YT4262 Год назад

    Ok we believe you

  • @isaiahthechristiangamer8716
    @isaiahthechristiangamer8716 Год назад +10

    1:18 What the heck was that Down Tilt?

    • @TheFullPackage
      @TheFullPackage Год назад

      His down tilt has a hit box on his upper body which leads to him catching people who are colliding with him from right behind, usually happens to fat characters lol

    • @phengmoua2389
      @phengmoua2389 Год назад

      You knew the game was over when that happened lol

  • @brucerhymer4148
    @brucerhymer4148 Год назад

    Fatality just really good # one of the best players in smash bros hands down

  • @ardeetheone
    @ardeetheone Год назад +1

    This match was so sad as a k rool main 😭

  • @Save_Train
    @Save_Train Год назад

    cool to see KirbyKid get more shine.

  • @danielmartinez4919
    @danielmartinez4919 Год назад

    Fatality hasnt met my k.rool

  • @p3nguin11
    @p3nguin11 Год назад

    respect to any KRool that doesn't camp and plays the game

  • @pelastudents3335
    @pelastudents3335 Год назад

    NGL. I was cheering for Kirby Kid because, I play K Rool and my friend plays C. Falcon. This hurt me in many ways.

  • @DarkThomy
    @DarkThomy Год назад +1

    Tbf it didnt go as bad as you'd think !

  • @MrGameguyC
    @MrGameguyC Год назад +2

    Yeah, it sucks K. Rool struggles this much, but you do what you gotta do.

  • @ricksanchez-qx5zz
    @ricksanchez-qx5zz Год назад

    Good stuff would love to actually see a ganon match up chart half the cast probably -2 xD

    • @tropikilla
      @tropikilla Год назад +1

      Not half, only a third. There's still characters that belong in -1 and -3

  • @Ridlay_
    @Ridlay_ Год назад

    Dang it really is that brutal huh.

  • @exeterd9
    @exeterd9 Год назад +1

    Id hate myself if i had to play this game for money

  • @milkcourier1224
    @milkcourier1224 Год назад

    petition to get the old snes fzero music intro back :((

  • @popoha4380
    @popoha4380 Год назад +1

    My inner Kremlin be in full cringe. But the match is wack.

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 Год назад +12

    I like imagining people going into this video like "Who's going to remember obscure information like that?"
    Then moments later
    "Twitch Chat won't shut the fuck up about that obscure thing Fatality said that one time."
    Based Twitch chat, reminding you of every little thing.
    Either that, or holy shit, K.Rool is so bad in the Falcon matchup that everyone just unanimously agreed without coersion, which is just as funny.
    K.Rool is such a bastard for players who can't beat him, that seeing him get beat up like this is cathartic. Players such as Vernias.

    • @kisameh420
      @kisameh420 Год назад +1

      Twitch chat is the last thing from Based

  • @TotiJK
    @TotiJK Год назад +1

    Look for dans comment in the matchup chart video it gave me a good laugh after seeing this video

  • @isaiahthechristiangamer8716
    @isaiahthechristiangamer8716 Год назад

    3:30 Deal with it

  • @doublelizard767
    @doublelizard767 Год назад

    I understand where kirbykid is coming from, but for me, getting destroyed by my buddy and his Falco every week made me stop one tricking characters.
    Melee Falcon vs Falco on FD is a fever dream of footsies and constant failed power shields

  • @coleten_shafer5859
    @coleten_shafer5859 Год назад

    1:37 Poor fuckin’ K Rool took *28%* from 1 jab.

  • @moocow17
    @moocow17 Год назад

    Great now I gotta go fight my friends falcon to see if this is true...KK was trying to go too deep when krool can outrange. No ftilts, not enough crown in air to keep falcon pinned. No Bair spikes when falcon goes low...sad

  • @Alchemy9033
    @Alchemy9033 Год назад

    Hell yeah 😎

  • @greatstaro9255
    @greatstaro9255 Год назад

    He was the best King K-rool??? Omg I had no idea. Of course he is very good, but he needs to learn Falcon's matchup because he could have avoided some mistakes

  • @cxd1
    @cxd1 Год назад +3

    This is strange and I wouldn’t know why Kirbykid wouldn’t know it but the down tilt at ledge is so consistent at two framing the opponent idk why he never uses it

    • @sahlaysta3399
      @sahlaysta3399 Год назад +3

      No it isn't

    • @greedo194
      @greedo194 Год назад +3

      Falcon has a very good ledgehang so he's very hard to twoframe

    • @cxd1
      @cxd1 Год назад

      @@greedo194 fair enough. I just know that the down tilt would usually work.

    • @cxd1
      @cxd1 Год назад

      @@sahlaysta3399 have you tried this?? I have literally seen K.Rule34 do this and make valid points as to why it’s consistent

    • @sahlaysta3399
      @sahlaysta3399 Год назад

      @@cxd1 I wouldn't take advice from that clown

  • @Mepphy99
    @Mepphy99 Год назад

    this matchup is not even bad for Ganondorf lol
    but people can't believe that worse Falcon but can do stuff

  • @nicholashopper5862
    @nicholashopper5862 Год назад

    I saw you at the venue walking round, yelling sonething between sets, but i couldnt hear you. What were you saying?

  • @hungrysaiyan2192
    @hungrysaiyan2192 Год назад

    What did he actually tell him at the end?

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming Год назад

    Ok ok brother lol

  • @michaelnelson8618
    @michaelnelson8618 Год назад

    commentator bias? screw those partial scallawags, fatality is a goat

  • @Ravenh00d
    @Ravenh00d Год назад

    Dam, this really is just a reupload of the match itself XD

  • @ghostaccountlmao
    @ghostaccountlmao Год назад +3

    As a melee only viewer, Coney and TK had some of the best commetary I've heard in a very long time. Absolute quality stuff.
    wp Fatality

  • @lfwalrus
    @lfwalrus Год назад

    The opening minute of this video shows king K winning neutral through nair, if Kirby had run off stage and properly spaced nair he easily could have taken stocks, I don’t see how this is a bad matchup considering fade back crown throw and flacons lacking recovery

    • @justaliljello5198
      @justaliljello5198 Год назад

      Did you watch the rest of the set? Look at the last game

    • @lfwalrus
      @lfwalrus Год назад +1

      @@justaliljello5198 time and time again Kirby kid approaches instead of throwing retreating crown, falcon has no projectiles or reflector and dies relatively early to F-air, I would like to see Kirby kid play more defensive against all melee opponents

  • @alightened
    @alightened Год назад

    Lol I don’t think he said you’ll never beat me. Probably more like, I’m sorry man, that’s so obnoxious good game

  • @ParkAir33
    @ParkAir33 Год назад

    I mean yeah you can say whatever you want about any match-up between characters, but whoever is playing them is a totally different story...

  • @kevinquinones.8267
    @kevinquinones.8267 Год назад

    Is Kirbykid Ben Gold?

  • @yorkie4295
    @yorkie4295 Год назад

    Discipline

  • @sabokgaming3438
    @sabokgaming3438 Год назад +1

    To be one of the easiest fights, the gap was pretty close

    • @swaerd3264
      @swaerd3264 Год назад +2

      More a testament to how good Kirby Kid is, and also to how close top players can make almost any game.

    • @nicholassmith8060
      @nicholassmith8060 Год назад +6

      He got 2 stocked both games, that's not close lol

  • @magerr98
    @magerr98 Год назад

    Why the bm headshake after the match? what happened to old fatality

    • @iamconfusion5323
      @iamconfusion5323 Год назад +2

      Offended by a headshake, are we?

    • @magerr98
      @magerr98 Год назад

      @@iamconfusion5323 No, I just don't think bm is necessary in a match; maybe I'm just looking too much into it who knows

    • @wuhhlfarg5578
      @wuhhlfarg5578 Год назад

      bm?

    • @magerr98
      @magerr98 Год назад

      @@wuhhlfarg5578 bad manners. maybe thats old internet lingo by now lol

    • @wuhhlfarg5578
      @wuhhlfarg5578 Год назад

      @@magerr98 I am not a native English speaker so that's probably the reason i didn't know it
      Thanks

  • @MercMercury
    @MercMercury Год назад

    Fatality bringing in the IRL disrespect this time 😏

  • @eightjake6211
    @eightjake6211 Год назад +2

    Yeah this mu blows, it’s better to just counterpick. K rool just can’t get out of disadvantage, and then falcon up b just negates k rools recovery

  • @ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy
    @ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy 2 месяца назад

    Doable for K Rool though, ngl

  • @jimmyalex5276
    @jimmyalex5276 Год назад

    I respect fatality, probably ultimates best falcon or at least one of, however the first game looked like incredibly low level play for some reason

  • @Pizza_Dough1
    @Pizza_Dough1 Год назад

    Yo

  • @ethanmcroy
    @ethanmcroy Год назад

    The recovery in this game is absolutely braindead. Nothing about it creates interesting ledgeplay/gameplay. There's no stakes. There's no hazard. There's not enough breathtaking moments.

  • @jesterclownmime
    @jesterclownmime 3 месяца назад

    Its K. Rool, he's bottom of the barrel because all of his matchups are bad.

  • @thunderb1rd.1320
    @thunderb1rd.1320 Год назад

    ngl dont like the commentary during this set but this is actually just in-game bullying lool.

  • @ethanhna
    @ethanhna Год назад

    P

  • @mire_cs
    @mire_cs Год назад +1

    1:14 how the hell did they both get ledge here lmfao wtf is ultimate, this looks like a bug to a melee player

    • @soggyssb5192
      @soggyssb5192 Год назад

      Edgehogging hasn't been a thing since smash 4 bruh. Kirbykid just went for ledgetrump too early.

  • @salsaspartan7
    @salsaspartan7 Год назад

    Ha! Melee is the game RUclips shows in the description. Lmao! Even they know Melee is better. Rofl!!

  • @drewthompson8861
    @drewthompson8861 Год назад +4

    I can’t believe people are still out here wearing masks💀

    • @mxm_prime2191
      @mxm_prime2191 Год назад +16

      Imagine caring about not getting other people sick, wow, could never be us gigachads amirite?

    • @BearTheGrudge
      @BearTheGrudge Год назад +6

      I can’t believe people are still out here wearing pants

    • @wwjd222
      @wwjd222 Год назад

      yup no joke. the "science" has proven they do nothing. and its been a long time since the science said this....