Did you guys notice Sofia peeping the ring on Sal's finger? She doesnt know the entire situation when it comes to her brother, she noticed the fingers missing and now he conveniently has the ring. I find that so interesting.
Oz’s dad was clearly Rex Calabrese. The way he worships Rex, the fact that his mom knows all the information about the mob families, the way Oz reacted when Sofia’s brother laughed at him for wanting to be like Rex, how Oz got his chance as a driver then Carmine kept him around when Pinchy got popped… it just makes sense that his dad was Calabrese
Very true. On that note, I think Oz killed his brothers. I believe he killed his brothers in the Pain and Prejudice comic. Would make sense here, I think.
I’ve seen some girls go Gaga over The Riddler in the show Gotham and I always was like “Y’all good? Yikes.” After seeing Sofia in this show I understand now cause Sofia is just DAMN fine
Fun fact Adam (I think you were the one who mentioned grabbing the Penguin's from the Zoo), but when Oz is telling Eve about the hideout in Crown Point he says "Vic's got us a spot next to the Zoo", meaning Matt Reeves' decided to put Gotham Zoo in Crown Point so it could be above the Penguin lair as an homage to Devito's Penguin!! How cool!!! Lauren LeFranc has laughed and said cryptically in interviews that Matt Reeves would leave notes saying add this detail and use this name and details about locations she needed to use and names of locations. This was definitely one of those!
Also just realised but the Zoo is frozen over and run down in Batman Returns. Crown Point just got destroyed by the flood and it's about to be snowing so in The Batman Part II the zoo will be destroyed and frozen over too!!!
@@typicaljack2395 Would be cool if he put up his own new Iceberg Lounge there in memory of his old spot, which is now destroyed as far as I can tell. Could be as easy switch in new batman movie as Oz saying "how do you like new Iceberg Lounge?". Seeing some actual penguins there could be some real surreal moment though xD I would love if they had an opening in those tunnels leading to the surface, where snow could fall. Making it realistic, but also comic-accurate in a fun way
@@kptmaci4979 I think he will get a new club by the final episode, he mentioned it to Eve in 1 or 2 and this show so far pays off every little line in some way. A realistic version of the penguins could happen because he's about to get real comic-y. Reeves said the show gets him to a point where he becomes a lot more like the comic version of the character for the second film.
The Penguin is a proper HBO show. it demands the weekly prestige time slot like a Sopranos, Succession or Game Of Thrones. Them not treating it like "Just a spin-off" is a great look and make the show overall feel important. On top of it being a damn near flawless show also helps.
I'm surprised that so far, the few reactions that I've watched for this Penguin Episode, nobody brought up that Bruce Wayne has the batcave in the underground transit also. Was I the only one who thought even for a second that maybe he'd see some reference to the batman or the batcave??
That was the chief not Kenzie. Remember Selena captured him and brought him to Batman & Gordon. Gordon arrested him Kenzie once he found out he was on Carmine’s payroll. This Chief threatened Batman and tried to blame the DA’s death on him
@@HeroesReforgedmaybe 2 different people. Cause remember Kenzie’s voice isn’t raspy. And looking them up the Chief is named Mackenzie Bock and the detective is William Kenzie. Kenzie was arrested by Gordon (I think) once that audio of Annika being unalived by Carmine came out and Gordon released it.
This series showcases the great villain gallery that The Batman has I’m pumped for the sequel and I hope Warner Bros gives Matt Reeves the opportunity to expand on this universe in the future
The movie playing was "Gloria." It played on HBO ALL THE TIME, back when it was about the only premium cable channel. I was like 9 or so, saw the movie repeatedly. Bought a purse that looked like hers at a flea market and had a toy gun. I walked around the house pretending to be her and talking with her accent. Yes, I grew up to be a tough b!tch. Lol. Gena Rowlands was one of the original bad @ss women in film.
OK. Something I found really interesting. The last name of Sofia's mother: Gigante. Check this real world fact out: Vincent Louis Gigante, also known as "Chin", was an American mobster who was boss of the Genovese crime family in New York City from 1981 to 2005. I love when fiction draws on real world fact and history.
Idk if its just me, but i feel like Sophia genuinely learned how to treat her henchmen by watching Oz. Which really shows her intelligence and insight.
Thank you! That is what I said . The acting in this show is all the Oscar's worthy. It is absolutely the best show of the year! Every frame ,every scene, every line. All the T's are crossed and I 's dotted. Cristin is so so good. I can fix her !!
@@orangeninja24 it was released in 1980. The film's tagline makes sense as to why it's in the show: "SHE'S TOUGH... BUT SHE SIDES WITH THE LITTLE GUY. AND SHE'S OUT TO BEAT THE MOB AT THEIR OWN GAME."
I think that apartment was owned by Vic's friend. Remember Sophia shot in the first episode. They were together in that scene where they going to stole the OZ rims. And told Sophia that he saw OZ in the Club. Then at 2nd episode. He was in the posters missing.
Damn Hector, you really hate the Joker lol. I liked it a lot but I don't wanna argue my point lol. Haven't seen the second one cuz I'm just not that into musicals. The Penguin is definitely a gold standard tho, I agree.
So how did y'all miss Oz giving the guard the knife? How? Also, because ya'll insist on doing truly long commentaries through scenes and dialogue, you miss stuff like Falcone clearly saying he took the keys from the guard who stabbed him and thus was able to escape.
@@TheOptimismprime that makes perfect sense. I was a lil lost when they started talking about it being a frame job but I guess that explains how they got there.
I’m going to disagree with you on release schedules. Releasing it weekly keeps the show in the conversation, releasing all at once has a tendency to have the show just disappear within two weeks of the release.
@HeroesReforged @hectorisfunny I get the sinking suspicion the "doctor" character is only in Sofia's head. 🧐 Like maybe he existed at Arkham, but something happened to him [either he was killed by her or someone else], and he is now only a figment of her broken psyche.
@@kallemattiwaris2422 Hmm...True. You make a good point. Maybe it WAS his apartment, but she uses it as a "safe house". Not solid on that angle though. Of course, this is me grasping a straws. I just dont ever see him interacting with anyone else even when other people are around. Also, they dont seem to really "touch" each other [with the exception of that one scene where he's holding her from the back, which seemed wierd and awkward].
@@joewillsart Of course, there is a possibility she killed him in that weird scene in the last episode, and as he is now is just a figment of her psyche. Who knows with this show.
Except that when Sofia was in the closet picking out clothes for the meeting, one of the henchmen said there was someone to see her and brought in the doctor. So he isn’t just in her mind.
Honestly I found The Batman movie to be boring. I even tried watching it again after last weeks episode. This show is just soooo much better at keeping me engaged with all of these characters. Also that's not Mr Krabbs that mother effin Lex Luthor! But I also couldn't help thinking "Are thou feeling it now Mr Krabbs?" when he got stabbed 😂
How did this reaction become a Joker rant?! It's impressive how Hector hasn't even seen the second movie but has opinions like he was part of the production team. The first Joker is still a great movie, it should've been a standalone movie but the studio and the fans demanded a second one and Todd Phillip (who didn't want to so a second one at first) gave us a bad sequel, doesn't change the quality of the first one. I feel like people had the wrong expectations for Joker, it wasn't meant to be a big, mainstream story or universe, it was imagined as a single, more arthousy movie. People confused it with what Reeves planned for his Batman, a dark take on a universe, but that's not Phillips' mistake. Making a sequel was a bad idea, When announced I was annoyed by it immediatly, only when they talked about it as a musical it got interesting again, but in the end the studio should have kept it a standalone movie. I have no idea what that has to do with the Penguin show, but here we are.
The film that played on TV was "Gloria" (1980), with Gena Rowlands.
Did you guys notice Sofia peeping the ring on Sal's finger? She doesnt know the entire situation when it comes to her brother, she noticed the fingers missing and now he conveniently has the ring. I find that so interesting.
Yeah she's totally gonna try to kill him and take over
Oz’s dad was clearly Rex Calabrese. The way he worships Rex, the fact that his mom knows all the information about the mob families, the way Oz reacted when Sofia’s brother laughed at him for wanting to be like Rex, how Oz got his chance as a driver then Carmine kept him around when Pinchy got popped… it just makes sense that his dad was Calabrese
I'll take the other side of that bet
@@davidwindell I've been thinking the same thing.
@davidwindell god damn bro I never though of that but that makes a lot of sense.
@@davidwindell not to mention why else is Oz’s Mom so knowledgeable about mob politics?!
I could see it...
Ofc he burned quick he was completely covered in gasoline haha.
My thought exactly lol like no shit he’s drenched in fuel
From what I've read, shock sets in pretty quickly and once your nerve-endings have burned away, it doesn't even hurt that much anymore.
@@kallemattiwaris2422Yeah buddy just pray you never end up in a position like that.
@@jasfx7241 Well I mean yeah, it's still pretty much the most horrible death I can imagine.
These reactors are low key dumb
I love what a character Gotham is. Someone says "the city took em" and no one blinks an eye. That is stupendous
Very true. On that note, I think Oz killed his brothers. I believe he killed his brothers in the Pain and Prejudice comic. Would make sense here, I think.
I’ve seen some girls go Gaga over The Riddler in the show Gotham and I always was like “Y’all good? Yikes.” After seeing Sofia in this show I understand now cause Sofia is just DAMN fine
Hector: Did we get the impression Oz's mom is suffering from Dementia" 🤣It's not exactly subtle...
Guess they missed when the landlord told Oz that she may have it, and he paid him off to just watch his mom
It was the “is she playing?” that got me lol
Bruh 😂😂😂😂
Fun fact Adam (I think you were the one who mentioned grabbing the Penguin's from the Zoo), but when Oz is telling Eve about the hideout in Crown Point he says "Vic's got us a spot next to the Zoo", meaning Matt Reeves' decided to put Gotham Zoo in Crown Point so it could be above the Penguin lair as an homage to Devito's Penguin!! How cool!!! Lauren LeFranc has laughed and said cryptically in interviews that Matt Reeves would leave notes saying add this detail and use this name and details about locations she needed to use and names of locations. This was definitely one of those!
Also just realised but the Zoo is frozen over and run down in Batman Returns. Crown Point just got destroyed by the flood and it's about to be snowing so in The Batman Part II the zoo will be destroyed and frozen over too!!!
@@typicaljack2395 Would be cool if he put up his own new Iceberg Lounge there in memory of his old spot, which is now destroyed as far as I can tell. Could be as easy switch in new batman movie as Oz saying "how do you like new Iceberg Lounge?". Seeing some actual penguins there could be some real surreal moment though xD I would love if they had an opening in those tunnels leading to the surface, where snow could fall. Making it realistic, but also comic-accurate in a fun way
@@kptmaci4979 I think he will get a new club by the final episode, he mentioned it to Eve in 1 or 2 and this show so far pays off every little line in some way. A realistic version of the penguins could happen because he's about to get real comic-y. Reeves said the show gets him to a point where he becomes a lot more like the comic version of the character for the second film.
two awesome bands in this ep. Dododo is The Police, and song towards the end is The Cure, with the amazing song A Forest
Sal thanks Oz for the keys from the guard that tried to kill him. That's how he got out.
Didn't realized it the first time I watched it. Sophia kissed Johnny on the head. She was already going to kill him before she walked into the room.
@@matdrat yess, my thoughts exactly!
@@matdrat what a masterpiece of a show
The Penguin is a proper HBO show. it demands the weekly prestige time slot like a Sopranos, Succession or Game Of Thrones. Them not treating it like "Just a spin-off" is a great look and make the show overall feel important. On top of it being a damn near flawless show also helps.
I love when two of you are panicking and one is boppin away in his little box yellin “I love this song!” it is why you guys are my favorite 🥰
I'm surprised that so far, the few reactions that I've watched for this Penguin Episode, nobody brought up that Bruce Wayne has the batcave in the underground transit also.
Was I the only one who thought even for a second that maybe he'd see some reference to the batman or the batcave??
That was the chief not Kenzie. Remember Selena captured him and brought him to Batman & Gordon. Gordon arrested him Kenzie once he found out he was on Carmine’s payroll. This Chief threatened Batman and tried to blame the DA’s death on him
The chief’s first name is Mackenzie.
@@HeroesReforgedmaybe 2 different people. Cause remember Kenzie’s voice isn’t raspy. And looking them up the Chief is named Mackenzie Bock and the detective is William Kenzie. Kenzie was arrested by Gordon (I think) once that audio of Annika being unalived by Carmine came out and Gordon released it.
@@HeroesReforgedso yeah we got Mackenzie and Kenzie. Kinda odd
3:39 Respectfully, that’s also LEX LUTHOR.
This series showcases the great villain gallery that The Batman has
I’m pumped for the sequel and I hope Warner Bros gives Matt Reeves the opportunity to expand on this universe in the future
AS SOON AS SHE KISSED HIM, I KNEW HE WAS GONE!
Penguin barging into Blackgate yelling "Give Me The Formula Krabs!!!" 😂
“How many bad theories can we shove inside a video”
The movie playing was "Gloria." It played on HBO ALL THE TIME, back when it was about the only premium cable channel. I was like 9 or so, saw the movie repeatedly. Bought a purse that looked like hers at a flea market and had a toy gun. I walked around the house pretending to be her and talking with her accent. Yes, I grew up to be a tough b!tch. Lol. Gena Rowlands was one of the original bad @ss women in film.
OK. Something I found really interesting. The last name of Sofia's mother: Gigante. Check this real world fact out: Vincent Louis Gigante, also known as "Chin", was an American mobster who was boss of the Genovese crime family in New York City from 1981 to 2005. I love when fiction draws on real world fact and history.
Recently played by the great Vincent D'Onofrio in "The Godfather of Harlem" starring Forrest Whitaker on MGM+
I never would’ve guessed I’d love a Penguin show more than a Batman movie lol
This show makes me love the movie even more.
@@Hessianoctme too
Idk if its just me, but i feel like Sophia genuinely learned how to treat her henchmen by watching Oz. Which really shows her intelligence and insight.
Thank you! That is what I said . The acting in this show is all the Oscar's worthy. It is absolutely the best show of the year! Every frame ,every scene, every line. All the T's are crossed and I 's dotted. Cristin is so so good. I can fix her !!
Once penguin is on top, what other Gotham mafias are there for him to turf war over? Black mask?
@@SherlockShowtime-ge6bu yeah, also Rupert Thorne.
Once the mafias are out of the way, that’s when the crazies movie in.
Scarface? -the puppet I mean.
He stole the keys from the guard that tried to kill him, I love listening to your guises interactions, but you do miss some crucial bits
23:24 according to Google, The Penguin was film on location in New York City, Queens, the Bronx, Yonkers and Long Island.
I'm pretty sure it was the fire supression gas that killed the uncovered mushrooms.
I see it goin like this oz killed Alberto and Sofia killing Vick
The movie on television at 10:40 is called Gloria. The 1970’s version.
@@orangeninja24 it was released in 1980. The film's tagline makes sense as to why it's in the show:
"SHE'S TOUGH... BUT SHE SIDES WITH THE LITTLE GUY. AND SHE'S OUT TO BEAT THE MOB AT THEIR OWN GAME."
Actually, having gone to school for Fire Science. Given the type of gas and/or accelerant, someone could ignite THAT quickly..
“Victor” Zsaz
The interesting thing is that the batcave is also in the underground tunnels, but it is in the section close to Wayne Tower
I think that apartment was owned by Vic's friend. Remember Sophia shot in the first episode. They were together in that scene where they going to stole the OZ rims. And told Sophia that he saw OZ in the Club. Then at 2nd episode. He was in the posters missing.
It's so good. Things are definitely heating up. Well that guy was and his mom too. Sofia she is a force to be reckoned with!
Was I the only one disappointed that Victor didn’t take Oz’s mom to Bludhaven?
Thanks to Adam, Hector and Agustin! 🐧
loving the rewatch , and Hector at the last minute getting me hyped for DD born again. oh boy i cant wait
I might be grasping at straws here, but do you think Penguin’s guy Bruno could possibly be a young Bruno Mannheim?
20:07 *[ability to get it intensifies]*
29:38 dude, that made my day
Just an amazing impression
Damn Hector, you really hate the Joker lol. I liked it a lot but I don't wanna argue my point lol. Haven't seen the second one cuz I'm just not that into musicals. The Penguin is definitely a gold standard tho, I agree.
The second one is literally one of the worst pieces of comic book media of all time
James Madio played the Bronx lost boy in Hook and was Picante in Band of Brothers.
I think the movie they are watching is Gloria starring Gena Rowland from 1980.
It is indeed. RIP Gena Rowlands who just passed away a couple of months ago.
I agree Hector, that dude deserves the "huacala."
18:05 when y’all were taking he told oz how he got out
The Movie on the TV is Gloria (1980) with Gina Rowland as an ex-gangster's dame who saves a kid from the mob.
It’s 🤌🏻peak🤌🏻
So how did y'all miss Oz giving the guard the knife? How? Also, because ya'll insist on doing truly long commentaries through scenes and dialogue, you miss stuff like Falcone clearly saying he took the keys from the guard who stabbed him and thus was able to escape.
You guys are usually pretty good on the details but I feel like you missed Oz paying off the guard so that Sal would get stabbed
@@TheOptimismprime that makes perfect sense. I was a lil lost when they started talking about it being a frame job but I guess that explains how they got there.
21:12 he had that coming. Finally. Go Sofia!
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Oz & Vic= Walt & Jesse
I’m going to disagree with you on release schedules. Releasing it weekly keeps the show in the conversation, releasing all at once has a tendency to have the show just disappear within two weeks of the release.
The camera was in fact, out of focus the whole time :D
The movie is "Gloria"
Yea they filmed in New York and Jersey
I hope you watch Better Call Saul after finishing Breaking Bad!!! @Hector 🔥🔥🔥
ending song name?
#ThePenguin☔
Gigante...giant...sweet
@HeroesReforged @hectorisfunny I get the sinking suspicion the "doctor" character is only in Sofia's head. 🧐 Like maybe he existed at Arkham, but something happened to him [either he was killed by her or someone else], and he is now only a figment of her broken psyche.
If that's the case, where did she end up in last episode and how? If it wasn't his apartment, where'd she go?
@@kallemattiwaris2422 Hmm...True. You make a good point. Maybe it WAS his apartment, but she uses it as a "safe house". Not solid on that angle though. Of course, this is me grasping a straws. I just dont ever see him interacting with anyone else even when other people are around. Also, they dont seem to really "touch" each other [with the exception of that one scene where he's holding her from the back, which seemed wierd and awkward].
@@joewillsart Of course, there is a possibility she killed him in that weird scene in the last episode, and as he is now is just a figment of her psyche. Who knows with this show.
@@kallemattiwaris2422 That would be wild. 😅
Except that when Sofia was in the closet picking out clothes for the meeting, one of the henchmen said there was someone to see her and brought in the doctor. So he isn’t just in her mind.
Honestly I found The Batman movie to be boring. I even tried watching it again after last weeks episode. This show is just soooo much better at keeping me engaged with all of these characters.
Also that's not Mr Krabbs that mother effin Lex Luthor!
But I also couldn't help thinking "Are thou feeling it now Mr Krabbs?" when he got stabbed 😂
29:03 lmao how would it be Batman? Didn’t they lose them when the were kids? Batman prolly wasn’t even born
The SNL Oscar the Grouch was awesome! The Joker folly and part 2 was not!!!😅
I wonder why the racist, sexist, and homophobic people are not trashing this show?? Hmmm...
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How did this reaction become a Joker rant?! It's impressive how Hector hasn't even seen the second movie but has opinions like he was part of the production team.
The first Joker is still a great movie, it should've been a standalone movie but the studio and the fans demanded a second one and Todd Phillip (who didn't want to so a second one at first) gave us a bad sequel, doesn't change the quality of the first one.
I feel like people had the wrong expectations for Joker, it wasn't meant to be a big, mainstream story or universe, it was imagined as a single, more arthousy movie. People confused it with what Reeves planned for his Batman, a dark take on a universe, but that's not Phillips' mistake. Making a sequel was a bad idea, When announced I was annoyed by it immediatly, only when they talked about it as a musical it got interesting again, but in the end the studio should have kept it a standalone movie.
I have no idea what that has to do with the Penguin show, but here we are.
I love that you guys talk but yall stretch too much and guess wrong most of the time
Its either the Doctor is in Sophia's head like in the Joker. Or he can be Scarecrow.
WoW, at Marvel they destroyed a character with potential like Kang the conqueror but now, they succeed in a series about the penguin!!
Imagine a Batman show instead of another movie. Would flesh out everything so much more with way more run time asa show
Is this show actually any good? I wasn't exactly a fan of The Batman
then you won't like this show either
@@matthewtopping2061 you don't have to like batman to like the show
The Doctor is the only character that doesn’t fit into the rest of the story, for me.
The marvel spin offs are terrible story telling including Loki