The warriors won a title before KD, with KD, and after KD. That’s wild 😳 Edit - now he may go back there and they may run it back with him, even more wild 😳
Durant is one of my fave players but this 4th title of GSW solidified the idea that he needed the splash brothers to get a ring and not the other way around. They won before him and now they won without him against a much formidable Celtics team (to which he got swept in the 1st round).
I agree with you L. Rodrigo A. Jamer. There are few equal to K Durant in the NBA. There is only one Stephen Curry. Nobody like him when his personality, spirit, passion comes with his unique talent, style and skills in the game of basketball. I have become an avid fan because of watching his every match since 8 years. Has been a great pleasure to watch him and would like to see him healthy and thriving in this Dynasty of the GS Warriors for many years to come.
Perfectly said. Just to clarify, they needed him, but not as much as he needed them. But they did need somebody to help them beat Kyrie and LeBron duo. They just went full retard with it.
Steph has double the rings of KD , basic maths , Idk how stupid people have to be to claim GSW needed KD , it's not like the cavs swept them in 2016 , it was 3-4...
@@spongelob6872 Yes, but I don't see the Warriors running it back with Harrison Barnes and being able to beat LeBon and Kyrie. They needed to fill their SF spot. KD was a perfect addition to their system, but Curry is their system. Point blank.
KD did us a solid when he left. He didn't have to do a sign and trade but he did. Thanks to him we had 3 great finals run and would have had 3 rings if it weren't for the injuries on the last run. Also thanks to him we got D'Angelo Russell from the sign and trade, then we got Wiggins and Kuminga thanks to the last trade. For a superstar, KD might be a little mercurial but he doesn't act like a flaming narcists. He just wants to play ball. I hope he lands in the right place for him. Glad that Wiggins has landed in a place that makes him smile again.
KD did a sign and trade in a way that he thought would leave the team in trouble, though. He was focused on creating cap space and getting rid of the point guard who was there without having to cause any awkwardness. Most of the credit has to go to Bob Meyers and Steve Kerr on this one. And the Warriors culture too.
Just want to bring up that KD said he didn’t like Kerr’s style of coaching and he wanted a more free flowing offense where the players react to what the defense gives them. I think that works in the regular season but you don’t get far in the playoffs with that style and mentality. That’s why the warriors can turn it around even if they’re down. The repetition and practice. Sometimes players, even the best ones, needs to let the coach do their job.
@T S "kd carried the warriors" 😂 if only cavs didnt have a superteam, gsw won't also get durant xD they only needed durant bcuz there was a superteam which was the cavs xD so to fight against a superteam, they need one to be a superteam and durant was the best fit. xD
What is really making KD look so bad is that he got swept and locked 🔒 up in the first round by Boston. And then steph who “needed KD” is dropping 30 a game against this Boston defence on route to another championship and first finals Mvp without KD.
He did need KD he begged him to join him when lol lets face it the refs allowed the Warriors to muck up the game and they pretty much took two games from Boston.
KD averaged 27, 6,7 against Boston. I WISH I could be "locked up" like that. Now go ahead and talk about his "efficiency" and I'll say Giannis averaged 30 against Boston but he also averaged 30 on 28 shots a game.
Steph is different no cap. He doesn’t need the ball to dominate like KD and Giannis, so teams can shade or double them but Steph move too much and creates 4 on 3s in the half court set that’s why he put up 30 on 48/44/87 shooting splits smh.
I love how kd just gets the “one of the best players ever” comments while steph gotta double the amount of KD’s rings just to get praise from the media. KD has the 2 easiest rings in nba history
@@spjr99 HOW!!??? Was he not the guy that “needed KD” that “couldn’t carry a team” who’s legacy was on the line last season, I was told was the 4th best player left in the playoffs during the wcf… Steph gets the most disrespect than any other superstar.
@@spjr99 Steph has gotten the most hate from the media, and various analysts trust me. They reluctantly call him a good player, and they tear him down every chance they get. They keep going back to his past fails like other players never have down moments. And the audacity to say Steph needed KD to win championship and wouldn’t get another after KD left. That is why this win is so important.
I guess the finals mvps he got were easy too…you do realize Steph was on that team? You do realize this is Stephs first finals mvp out of 4?…I love Steph, but cut it out be the kd hate man. The man hoops and really just loves to hoop like I really don’t understand the hate
I remember few weeks ago what barkley said about the bus driver and bus rider, steph just proves that he is the bus driver from the first to the latest championship game. KD was just hitching the bus to get those rings. KD maybe a better player but Steph already have his legacy. To win a ring without teaming to another superstars is not just a class act but a very respectable and a great accomplishment..
True. KD just parked the bus. He was the bus parker/ Tony Parker parked buses, too. He was also a bus parker/ What's worse, though... ...is that KD got on the bus after the bus ran him over/ it's especially bad because people thought he was a bus driver; a bus bulldozer/ but do you think he could've gone on a Bull run? ask me and I'll say "no, sir"// Greatest Bus Parker of All Time.
It's almost like he's a clown. He looks like one, talks like one, and has about the same entertainment value. I'm upset youtube auto played this garbage and gave it a view.
When LeBron went back to Cleveland, they instantly went to the finals. We always give KD a pass but if LeBron was in the same situation as KD currently is, the media would be killing LeBron.
That’s because Lebron is one of the greatest to ever play basketball. KD is just another guy. He’s no where near Lebron’s level in terms of legacy. No where near
Put it to rest. Just remember who needed who. It's just like when Kobe won after Shaq. Though he replaced Shaq with Pau. Still, he was THE man. In this case, remember who joined, who left, and who won after. KD should thank GSW for giving him a taste.
Seemed liked you didn’t even watch 15 finals. Iggy replaced Andrew bogut(center) for Warriors after they down 2-1 VS cleaveland. They haven’t lost a single game after that with that death line up
Liked this Boston Celtics series after Looney was replaced by Otto porter jr. they haven’t lost single game too because they going for full fire power starting line up.
WROOOONG! KD is actually viewed, not just as a guy who left that situation, but as the guy who cannot won without a mega-super team and joined them in the first place!
When Lebron leaves a team, he wins in the next destination. Winning validates leaving. KD still had nothing to show up for. KD suddenly had another chip added on his shoulder
As a GSW fan, i never wanted KD on the team to begin with....i knew he'd steal the shine away from the splash bros (especially Steph) , which is what happened. However i enjoyed them winning rings. When he left, i felt it was selfish..especially for Kyrie. This is what he gets for thinking he can leave a great unselfish team for a guy who doesn't even play a whole season. I hope KD regrets his decision but im glad everyone sees GSW can win without him with another squad !
The craziest part of it all was that KD had his best stats with GS. He even came a better defender. He literally contradicted himself when he said that he wanted to go play selfless basketball and turned around and bashed Steve Kerr for that very same reason when he decided to leave GS.
@@thadude2862 Idk why ppl keep saying that. GS could’ve beaten the Cavs without KD. Yes that Cavs team was injured when they beat them the year before but when both team were heathy it still took the Cavs 7 GAMES AND a Draymond suspension to win that series. GS had a good chance to beat the Cavs as is and really what they did is rob the fans of an all time Finals rivalry of a 3rd rematch like boxing.
Yall was begging for this man now yall hate him? Lebron would be sitting on 6 rings and Kyrie 3 rings, yall should be more grateful he came, yall wasn't beating Lebron again after a 3-1 choke he figured yall out
Grateful for the KD years and what he brought to the bay but yeah this proves that he needed them more than they needed him. Hope he finds whatever it is that he is looking for in Brooklyn.
I mean, to Jay’s point, if you’re gonna be a player that single-handedly establishes a winning culture for a franchise, you need to be a strong leader that can shoulder the load of the entire organization. That was LeBron going back to Cleveland. KD is a guy that - by his own admission - just wants to hoop; he’s similar to Kawhi in that respect. He’s not much of a natural leader who’s gonna hold guys accountable and all that. He’s not a culture-setter, despite being an incredible player.
Agreed. GS was the perfect for do him play style and personality wise. But he wanted to be the alpha dog and that was never gonna happen there with steph. If you wanna be the alpha you have to be a leader,or at least set the tone. Kd has never been that guy, Uber talented but doesn’t have that extra piece to me
What you just said is EXACTLY EXACTLY what I said. KD is a great player but not a good leader in any means of the word. There are certain players who just have that gene or whatever you want to call it, to win. KD is not that, plain and simple
@@vulcanraven9701 This, Kyrie was *balling* out as good as a 1b you'll ever see in a final. Lebron went back to Cleveland for a reason and it wasn't to 'do right to Cleveland lol'
I think KD forgets that he said that, I think everyone forgets that he said that. It doesn't fit the narrative they want for him, and he certainly can't admit that again because it takes some air out of what he argues. You just want to hoop, to play, but you want to win on your own. If he just wanted to hoop and be apart of a good organization and help people win, GS was the stop, that would have been the best place for him. But, like Lebron, I don't think he was really ready for that style of basketball, were so much is put into "team" and not "star + team". KD is going to have to create that culture in Brooklyn and be the leader if he wants that outcome. You can't tell your friend you don't care where y'all go, but then give a list of things you won't do and places you won't go. Either you want to be the guy in the role, or you want to be a role player just happy to support your team.
This is worst lineup the warriors have going into the finals. The big 3 are old, they're still playing small most of the time, they don't have KD and the other pieces are very experimental. That's why this championship is so much sweeter than the last three. They deserve every bit of this chip.
Big 3 aging but Wiggins was on fire in these finals and Curry doesnt seem to have lost a step at all. Warriors will have a good future in the next couple years due to the young killers they have + Curry.
that along with klay's journey through injury, wiggs blossoming into the player he can be and steph entering goat talks... This one really is the sweetest
@@randymoss789 No no they didn’t. They had beat Lebron on their own and were one game away the next time. But who’s gonna say no to Kevin joining you? With KD victory was a certainty. Without KD victory was still a strong possibility.
SAS in 2016: “KD will be remembered as the player who left OKC to join a super team with Steph and Klay instead of doing it on his own” SAS in 2022: “KD will be remembered as the player who left Steph and Klay to go do it on his own instead staying and winning a championship”
The issue isn't KD leaving, the issue is KD leaving to lead a team and his team has been rocky year after year. He cant manage a team because he doesn't have those character traits. He is more like a Kawhi where they are there purely to ball, but you better never hope to expect them to be the glue holding your organization together.
@@classyredneckcinema9327 your right hes got 2 lol....just cuz your bitter and dont count them because the whole team was amazing doesnt mean he wasnt the most effective/deciding factor to win said games, hence 2 finals mvps...just like i count every ring a legend has even though most of them had to build a crazy team to get it like lebron and jordan.
How does one manage a team that has injuries to key players? In 2020 it was Kyrie and Harden, this season Kyrie was a part time player, Harden was traded mid season and his replacement never played a single minute this season while dealing with a back injury, they were also down their best shooter with an ankle injury since mid November 2021.
The only stain I feel KD have is leaving his team to join a super team who didn’t need him just to get a ring! Him leaving that great team to try and win on his own is NOT bad at all. He’s trying to prove us wrong he just keep failing at that attempt
Let’s remember that KD left not to be with Kyrie but because he didn’t feel fully apart of the team because it was seen as KD and warriors not just the warriors. He wasn’t fully apart and draymond made that clear when they had that argument. It was over after that.
Most sensible post so far. Talking heads keep making mountains out of molehills because they know most people just want an easy to digest narrative with someone to root for and someone to root against to keep them entertained.
I hope KD wins a ring on his own because if he doesn’t everyone always gonna remember him as just a scorer who was along for the ride on one of the best dynasties ever.
I hope he doesn't. OKC are going to be in trouble of losing that team (again) soon, and it's all thanks to this ring chaser. KD never learned to be a leader, he invested his time in egg accounts and finding easy rings.
Hope he never does. Should have never went to GS in the first place. He sold his career for 2 titles that he won’t ever get the true credit for. He gets what he deserves. He was never anything more than just a dynamic scorer. He’s not MJ, or Kobe, or LBJ. Never was in the same breath as those guys
I been a warriors fan my whole life. I ain't finna jump on bloods line and diss him just because he left when he did. He had his reasons and whatever he does he still is one of the best players ever.
KD with the warriors was just unfair to the rest of the league to be honest .. I'm so happy he did leave .. now we have really good teams in both conferences and much better competition
KD ruined the league for 2 years, not going to lie, I watched 2017 to see what an overpowered superteam can do against LeBron, but I didn't even watch 2018 because from what I witness in 2017, GSW will win again easy, no fun, no competition, what's the point. As a basketball fan, 2017/2018 were boring years, 2015/2016 were good years and it was the same two teams, difference? KD. I always liked GSW as a team, but you have to admit 2017/2018 were BS and if you don't think that, you're a GSW fan. I will give GSW full credit for winning 2015, injuries is part of the game and was disappointed they didn't win 2016 losing 3 straight to the Cavs but imagine if the 2019 Raptors kept DeRozen and just added Kawhi? That's literally what GSW were in 2017/2018.
@@montgomeryscottys8213 I mean when you have the ball 70% of the time, its not hard to dish to KD. Kyrie's only issue is that he hasn't shown up enough to even play but I can tell you right now Kyrie plays a much much more winning brand of basketball that Westbrick.
He was weak for joining them in the first place. Looks even worse now because he clearly needed them way more than they needed him. Dozens of players could’ve replaced KD then and now and it’s still steak and lobster playing with Steph Klay and Draymond. Just look at Wiggins.
Nah Wiggins was giving me 18 ah game and pull was giving up 12 ah game that’s 30 pts and looney gave them a lil extra soem night so that’s 30-35 pts in production that they made up to replace kd production
KD dissed Steve Kerr and the Warriors play styles with their motion offense after he left them. He wanted to more iso ball and be able play hero ball like how he played in okc so he can get all the credits. 🤡
Because KD wanted to play hero ball and wanted to come in a d take GSW over and that didn't happen. So he pouted and picked up his ball and walked away to nothing. He got kyrie Irving who is so wishy washy even with out the covid thing. Just down right BS
I'm not an NBA fanatics, but when i saw how Curry played in NCAA 2008, I got interested following all his games in NCAA and onto draft 2009 ... That's when i know GSW team exists.
@@kingabstract2288 so all you said was curry a better shooter. Okay we know that, but Kd is better defensively, can play all 5 positions, better rebounder, and definitely the better scorer.
1:30 - WRONG!!! Kevin Durant today is an afterthought. Literally no one is thinking about KD right now. Give it up to Steph and the Warriors on their win.
feel bad for KD bec the Warriors moves on when he left and won the title. no matter who's superstar join the GS, it's curry's team and another championship awaits them next season upon wiseman's return. congrats to steph for becoming a FMVP!!! you deserve it!!! 🐐
SAS has no issues with KD leaving Golden State, it’s that he left Curry for Iriving. KD could’ve gone anywhere else to play with a different player or team.
@@lllightskindude are you going to look yourself in the mirror and lie to yourself and say Iggy had a better finals (all 7 games) than Curry? Anybody who knows basketball knows that should’ve went to Curry doesn’t matter now though why? Because he just won finals MVP lmao stay mad
@@lllightskindude 2018 Steph was better than KD in the finals and in 2015 everyone without ain’t hatred towards Steph knows he was very deserving for that award. He realistically should have 2 possibly 3
So happy for Steph but I don't think celebrations need to be at KD's expense. Bob Myers explained that they only got Wiggins because Durant did them a favour and Wiggins has been the second best player by far.
OK that can be true but the fact is Durrant deserves to get criticism . If people weren’t saying that he was the best player on Golden State and that curry needed to prove that he was even on Duran‘s level then this would not be necessary. The problem is Curry was the best player all along. Durant needs to lead a team to a championship to prove himself because the fact is it looks like if not for Golden State he would not have a championship . It also factors and that he played so bad against the Celtics but Curry had his best series ever
I think the question of who's better is tricky. If you gotta plug a player into a random team, most ppl would pick KD. He has all the physical advantages. If you need a franchise leader who shows character and commitment and leadership etc, it's Steph by miles. So you're right that KD hasn't shown he can lead a championship team- but for me that's a knock on his character rather than his basketball skills.
This just shows how even though the warriors had durant, steph was always the best player and draymond green was right about durant being unnecessary for the team.
I disagree I don’t think Steph is better than Durant & Draymond saying that is him being hypercritical because they recruited him so they deserve the same lashing folks been giving KD about joining an already great team.
@@thatboiiinice3113 They just won a championship without him, he was unnecessary. I believe they teamed up mainly for the fact they were getting tired of lebron creating superteams,flopping and snitching.
@@rashonhall794 steph is the most important player on warriors, KD was an ultimate weapon that they added but still warriors offense runs because of steph
Part of the reason KD left is because he ended up wanting to play more iso after what happened in the finals with draymond not giving him the ball. So he left the environment he ultimately wanted with the warriors only to return to the environment he originally left in OKC
Yeah no. He got what he wanted out of it and wanted to leave. He was not coming long term anyways. I'm glad KD left. He served his purpose and moved on. He has nothing to prove and just wants to hoop. The media wants to stir stuff up and continues doing so. This championship has nothing to do with Durant, why bring it up.
@@debbiebgood3791 it does have something to do with him though. Mostly the fact that he joined a team that was already championship caliber which diminishes the magnitude of them winning. Not to mention most of the supporting cast from this championship is only there because of KD’s decision to sign and trade
Always was and has been Steph’s team. KD did the same thing lebron did and wanted to see how it felt to win a ring with an established team. Steph stayed true to one team and built a dynasty. Loyal guy that deserves all the praise. But most importantly he earned it.
Celtics was suppose to be the better defensive team and they had the dpoy. None of them could've guarded steph. Steph locked down jayson tatum etc multiple times, steph is a superstar two way player
@@nostalgiacorner1999 For like one game, then Steph made adjustments and the team made adjustments. Steph played very well defensively this series and especially that last game, and the team played great on help when Steph had a mismatch with Steph solidly holding his own. You want bullying, the Finals MVP is who you wanna talk to.
Supposed? They were but people somehow underrate Warriors defense, even tho the Dubs are always top 5 in defense people scoff it maybe cuz of how their defence is potent.
KD left because he wants to build his own team, and he left on good terms which let the Warriors ultimately pick up Wiggins and Kuminga, so from that aspect I think they can stop slandering him. KD definitely isn't exactly good at playing GM though, as the team he was trying to build was probably worse than OKC when he was there.
I don’t think it was as good terms as we think… very passive aggressiveness on both sides. KD throwing subtle shots and definitely hates the Warriors winning proves that imo.
It’s crazy how KD got so much time to reply to randoms on Twitter and go at Stephen A but doesn’t have time to congratulate his former team on winning the championship. I guess those are his “Brothers” though.😂
KD ultimately wasn't happy, and there were a multitude of reasons why he left. Mostly I believe he wanted to prove he could do it by being the centerpiece and focal point of a team by assembling his cast of teammates. His sensitivity to the chatter about him joining the Warriors led him to try and prove everyone wrong. So far its not looking good for him
Exactly Well that’s the same sauce that made him go there in the first place smh this why you don’t listen to the chatter but when you soft minded this happens unfortunately lol
SAS then: That was the weakest move ever (going to GS) Media then: KD needs to get his own team. Being on GS makes the season unwatchable. SAS now: People are going to question why KD left Golden State. 😐 Just celebrate the Warriors. They just won last night lol. Talk about the draft and FA. New and upcoming players to watch in the league. These type of debates are lazy
SAS speaks out of all sides of his mouth and changes his tune hourly. He was the guy not long ago saying that he believes Steph will never wing another ring (Steph even mentioned that in the post game presser last night). Immediately after they won SAS was saying he predicted Steph would win since the beginning of the season. Dude is a joke.
KD will be remembered as a top 2 talent that went to arguably the greatest assembled regular season team ever, after blowing a 3-1 lead against them in the playoffs… Not as the guy that left Curry for Kyrie
He definitely did. KD even said it. What's crazy is if he didn't leave they'd still be bitchin about how easy his 4 or 5 rings would've been and how they don't count so he left to build his thing and now it's a story about him leaving.
As a lifelong Dubs fan, thanks Smith, but he helped us get 2 championships. He is part of the brotherhood. I remember us sending Mullin to the Pacers and sincerely wishing him luck in getting himself a ring.
I disagree. KD has been slandering Steph behind his back in NBA circles for a while. That's not a brotherhood. KD is insecure and has never appreciated what Steph and The Warriors did for him.
I like and appreciate KD as a 50 years Dubs fan. But truth be told, he began trending towards iso balling his last year with the Dubs which is why he questioned Kerr's system and voiced a desire for more variety in the offense. When he became iso friendly the teams play declined a little. I believe KD saw the beauty of ball movement and enjoyed it while it was new to him, but later felt he needed to revert to being who and what he naturally is, which is an iso baller. Iso ballers rarely when titles, especially in this era.
KD plays best when he has a ball handler that can distribute. So despite Harden lack of production the team was still successful with them on the court. I don't know where you're getting this Iso nonsense from. He did it because he had to at some points because the warriors became to reliant.
@@libraalibaba Not really. The iso balling began when Curry was hurt and KD began doing more to carry the load. However; when Curry returned he continued deviating from the program and iso balling and later questioning Steve Kerr and his reliance on the single system. The teams record and performance experience a noticeable dip until KD went down with an injury. While he was injured Curry carried the team to a 25-1 record in KD's absence.
@@libraalibaba KD and Harden combination, won zero titles. Just say'n. The same results he's had his entire career outside of GS. Note: I like KD and appreciate his contributions to the Dubs. But it is what it is.
But lebron can do it and nobody say anything where is that parity ??? But the warriors do and everybody was talk about they rings not being legit smh Kevin should have stayed and said forget what everyone has to say…. Kevin Durant going to golden state is no different then what lebron did after leaving cavs
KD is simply the greatest Role Player in the game! He had massively talented teams in OKC and couldn't get it done. He only won when he was a role player playing with a generational talent in Curry. But being the head case he is, he never appreciated the Curry stepped back to let him shine, he thinks it all him!
Honestly I respect that KD is trying to do it on a team that won't win a championship without him. The results haven't been great so far but I respect that more than I would have if he stayed on that bandwagon.
@@robzsarmy5471 Kyrie isn't really a super star, I doubt he can be the best player on a championship team, never made All NBA First Team and only has 3 All NBA selections in his career. He's a great offensive talent but he just isn't it. He is a pretty ideal number 2 option but he's just that on a team that can go places. As for Harden, I don't think he really recruited him and I hear he wasn't crazy about that pick up. If I'm the Nets I make that trade anyway because for a team it doesn't really matter how you win championships and sell tickets but he didn't make that choice. Now it's KD, Kyrie and Simmons. Not a super team but a good big 3.
Why can't we just all agree that Warriors and KD both benefited from each other? KD left because he wanted a challenge but gets attacked for it when he should be praised for it.
A HUGE PART of KD's legacy will be the fact that he left a selfless team, for selfish reasons He was winning titles and NBA Finals MVP's in Golden State, but that wasn't enough, was it? He was playing on a team that played the right way, that embraced him, but that wasn't enough He wanted all the shine, all the credit, so he took his talents to Brooklyn. His biggest mistake.
We all know the warriors were always going to be Stephs team. He wanted to write his own story not feel like he was a part of someone else's. I actually respect him nore for leaving.
@@funkslave9425 lol kd was foolish for allowing media n fans pressure him to leave, all that narrative of its not ure team, him winning finals mvp saw people place him ahead of steph....i hope he has learned a valuable lesson, titles are worth way more than some random fan/media analysts so called respect....and then he teamed up with kyrie of all people lol
You know I never thought about this but KD leaving was the best decision for both parties. He was hurt, Klay was hurt and Steph got hurt right after that finals. They wouldn’t have had the money to build that team up again. Someone needed to leave. KD made the best decision he could.
They would have been able to build similar team minus the draft picks they just would have had a higher luxury tax bill. A healthy Steph and Kd would have had a decent chance at winning the title last year and a healthy Steph klay draymond and kd likely win the title again this yr. Porter, Bjelica, gp all minimum contracts looney low cost and had bird rights Poole was drafted the off-season he left. They wouldn’t be as set for future with wiseman, kuminga, and moody although they might have still had wiseman considering kd wouldn’t have played 2020. But I’m glad he left now bc we have been able to see Steph lead a team
Stephen A is just wrong. If KD stayed people would still be discounting his rings, Barkley was literally on get up saying KD needs to "be the bus driver on a winner". Some people look at KD as needing steph to win it all, I think that's ridiculous, but its on KD to go get another one.
Fr, no matter what KD did people would have something to say. If he stayed everyone would be saying “his rings don’t count” he leaves everyone still has a problem
Agreed. KD left because he wants to build his own legacy. People call him sensitive, but the reality is people will always remember KD as the one that hopped on a championship contender and got 2 chips for free, despite arguably being the best player in both finals. He doesn't need more rings with the warriors, so it's up to him to prove that he can do it or not. Regardless of whether he can do it or not, it still takes guts to leave like that trying to prove himself.
@@maxmx767 with the type of player KD is, I wouldn’t count him out for too long. BK is giving him the keys next year, Kyrie has to be on his best behavior lol. I’m not arguing against needing another star to win. But Curry was just one chapter of KD’s success just like Kyrie to LeBron, Dwade to LeBron (2x), and AD to LeBron. Kevin isn’t finished.
They criticize when KD went to gsw. They criticize when KD left even he agreed sign and trade or gave his achilles to them. They criticize when KD couldn’t control all those things out of his control. Anyway, no matter what, whenever it is, just like in OKC, it was clearly GMs and Westbrook didn’t play winning basketball but it’s all KD’s fault.
Tell that to KD who thinks highly of himself that he is the reason GSW won 2 titles with him Draymond said it to his face they didn't need him and prove him wrong again mofo always credits himself not the team he is on and he also criticize Steve Kerr's playbook that it does not work in the playoffs dude needs to STFU
KD Made the smart decision. During 2019 everyone got hurt including steph… They just didn’t have the money to build that team up again. Someone had to go.
That is a serious misrepresentation of what happened in Oklahoma City. People forget in those last three games in 2016 Durant was the worst player between Westbrook and him. Oklahoma City and Westbrook definitely had a great team around them and built it for Durant so stop it that young team that had stars everywhere and a superstar right alongside him went to the finals earlier in their journey. Even that team although it was not as loaded also had a great team around them before he left. Durant does docket criticize no matter what he does he went to the most stacked team on the planet in golden state so yes he got criticized. Now he is getting criticized for not playing well enough against Boston and the fact that he needs to prove he can be the best player on a championship team. He has not proven he can be the best player on a championship team because he wasn’t in Golden State that was Curry. If the rant wants to be on the same level as curry all time and be a top 10 kind of player that he needs to lead a team to a championship and prove that he can do it if not OK he’s probably the greatest bus rider there ever is. No one was criticizing him for things out of his control because he chose to go to Golden State and make them unbeatable. He chose to go to a team in Brooklyn to prove that he can win a title by himself and lead a team and he has not done that yet so he’s going to get criticized because he’s been playing for a long time and he still hasn’t let his team to a championship it’s all warranted criticism but if people try to criticize Kevin Durant by saying he’s not as great as curry or that he needs to lead his team to a championship oh no what are we gonna do . He needs to win a championship because right now it looks like he needed Golden State and the Warriors to win a championship which makes him and his career maybe the greatest second option ever because he’s not in that class of guys that can lead to a championship even though he is a generational talent
KD had to leave GS because even though he is a 2x finals MVP and champion it was never validated because he was on a team with steph klay n drey…y’all pushed that narrative so he left
And he failed to respond to that narrative. Warriors won without him, he never won without Golden State. He pretty much confirmed the narrative. Maybe it wouldnt have been this way had he not left. It would've been just a what if scenario.
KD was getting beat by the warriors for years and left to win with steph for a reason. He couldn't beat steph and that says everything you need to know about how great steph is. Period!
Lol KD got beat by the warriors one time in the playoffs . And people act like KD didn’t lead OKC to the finals and average 30 against the stacked heat team
He deserves for people to say whatever they're saying about him. If KD didn't leave GSW then he could have been in the greatest dynasty ever and could have been a top 3 player OF ALL TIME. Easily over 6 championships. But he had to get into his feelings.
He should just go to the Lakers, that would be a dope nba western conference finals.. that would cement the warriors legacy even more if they can pull it off agaib
KD won’t smell the Finals again as long as Kyrie is there, or “not” there. After 3 seasons, Nets have only gotten worse with KD & Kyrie running the show.
You’re counting his Achilles season?…and last season Kyrie got hurt otherwise they would’ve won it all.. they were crushing the bucks..this year Kyrie wasn’t able to play until 2 weeks before the playoffs…lol like what world are y’all from? It’s hard for me to believe y’all are even real people sometimes smh stop hating on the man he’s a great player and just wants to hoop
The warriors won a title before KD, with KD, and after KD. That’s wild 😳
Edit - now he may go back there and they may run it back with him, even more wild 😳
His titles are worth as much as a ring pop..
the before one was a freebie. Ky and Love didn’t play. delly was brons 2nd best player
@@stonecold316339 KD titles with Steph are just as worthless as those rings Lebron won with Wade and Bosh
@@maxmx767 were the heat a 73 win team without lebron? i get it was also a superteam but this warriors team was just unreal
@@stonecold316339 then that makes two of the warriors title's mean the same
Durant is one of my fave players but this 4th title of GSW solidified the idea that he needed the splash brothers to get a ring and not the other way around. They won before him and now they won without him against a much formidable Celtics team (to which he got swept in the 1st round).
facts!
I agree with you L. Rodrigo A. Jamer. There are few equal to K Durant in the NBA. There is only one Stephen Curry. Nobody like him when his personality, spirit, passion comes with his unique talent, style and skills in the game of basketball. I have become an avid fan because of watching his every match since 8 years. Has been a great pleasure to watch him and would like to see him healthy and thriving in this Dynasty of the GS Warriors for many years to come.
Perfectly said. Just to clarify, they needed him, but not as much as he needed them. But they did need somebody to help them beat Kyrie and LeBron duo. They just went full retard with it.
Steph has double the rings of KD , basic maths , Idk how stupid people have to be to claim GSW needed KD , it's not like the cavs swept them in 2016 , it was 3-4...
@@spongelob6872 Yes, but I don't see the Warriors running it back with Harrison Barnes and being able to beat LeBon and Kyrie. They needed to fill their SF spot. KD was a perfect addition to their system, but Curry is their system. Point blank.
KD did us a solid when he left. He didn't have to do a sign and trade but he did. Thanks to him we had 3 great finals run and would have had 3 rings if it weren't for the injuries on the last run. Also thanks to him we got D'Angelo Russell from the sign and trade, then we got Wiggins and Kuminga thanks to the last trade. For a superstar, KD might be a little mercurial but he doesn't act like a flaming narcists. He just wants to play ball. I hope he lands in the right place for him. Glad that Wiggins has landed in a place that makes him smile again.
Kd burner
Finally someone not hating on him
Thanks to him? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
KD did a sign and trade in a way that he thought would leave the team in trouble, though. He was focused on creating cap space and getting rid of the point guard who was there without having to cause any awkwardness.
Most of the credit has to go to Bob Meyers and Steve Kerr on this one. And the Warriors culture too.
Lmao kd kyrie and the nets got paid for that sign and trade and they were gonna let Dlo walk anyway
Just want to bring up that KD said he didn’t like Kerr’s style of coaching and he wanted a more free flowing offense where the players react to what the defense gives them. I think that works in the regular season but you don’t get far in the playoffs with that style and mentality. That’s why the warriors can turn it around even if they’re down. The repetition and practice. Sometimes players, even the best ones, needs to let the coach do their job.
Couldn’t have said it any better
yeah, he has too big of an ego. he probably really thought that the warriors would never make it back.
@T S" lol lol lol, I'm gonna put lol so that I don't sound pissed off but in reality I do, lol lol lol"
@T S "kd carried the warriors" 😂
if only cavs didnt have a superteam, gsw won't also get durant xD they only needed durant bcuz there was a superteam which was the cavs xD so to fight against a superteam, they need one to be a superteam and durant was the best fit. xD
@T S you edited your comment so all your opinion is invalidated.
What is really making KD look so bad is that he got swept and locked 🔒 up in the first round by Boston. And then steph who “needed KD” is dropping 30 a game against this Boston defence on route to another championship and first finals Mvp without KD.
He did need KD he begged him to join him when lol lets face it the refs allowed the Warriors to muck up the game and they pretty much took two games from Boston.
@@bobbyallen4555 here u go😭
KD averaged 27, 6,7 against Boston. I WISH I could be "locked up" like that. Now go ahead and talk about his "efficiency" and I'll say Giannis averaged 30 against Boston but he also averaged 30 on 28 shots a game.
Steph is different no cap. He doesn’t need the ball to dominate like KD and Giannis, so teams can shade or double them but Steph move too much and creates 4 on 3s in the half court set that’s why he put up 30 on 48/44/87 shooting splits smh.
I love it so much. SA & the clowns can try to spin it but everyone knows what it is
I love how kd just gets the “one of the best players ever” comments while steph gotta double the amount of KD’s rings just to get praise from the media. KD has the 2 easiest rings in nba history
You are on drugs if you think the media hasn't been praising Steph curry. They've literally been doing that for 8 years
@@spjr99 HOW!!??? Was he not the guy that “needed KD” that “couldn’t carry a team” who’s legacy was on the line last season, I was told was the 4th best player left in the playoffs during the wcf… Steph gets the most disrespect than any other superstar.
@@spjr99 Steph has gotten the most hate from the media, and various analysts trust me. They reluctantly call him a good player, and they tear him down every chance they get. They keep going back to his past fails like other players never have down moments. And the audacity to say Steph needed KD to win championship and wouldn’t get another after KD left. That is why this win is so important.
@@prowess6580 yeah bro, lot analyst still bring topic Curry blow up 3-1 Lead , when Curry topic 🤦♂
I guess the finals mvps he got were easy too…you do realize Steph was on that team? You do realize this is Stephs first finals mvp out of 4?…I love Steph, but cut it out be the kd hate man. The man hoops and really just loves to hoop like I really don’t understand the hate
Steven Curry is a true hero that is not found too many in NBA.
I remember few weeks ago what barkley said about the bus driver and bus rider, steph just proves that he is the bus driver from the first to the latest championship game. KD was just hitching the bus to get those rings. KD maybe a better player but Steph already have his legacy. To win a ring without teaming to another superstars is not just a class act but a very respectable and a great accomplishment..
True.
KD just parked the bus. He was the bus parker/
Tony Parker parked buses, too. He was also a bus parker/
What's worse, though...
...is that KD got on the bus after the bus ran him over/
it's especially bad because people thought he was a bus driver; a bus bulldozer/
but do you think he could've gone on a Bull run? ask me and I'll say "no, sir"//
Greatest Bus Parker of All Time.
@@0-Elias-0 😕 😒 😆 😂 *WhaT daFuQ.?!!?*
@@0-Elias-0 super fax . Kd really joined a 73-9 team. His rings are literally the most meaningless rings in NBA history
Stephen A: it’s the weakest move I’ve ever seen a superstar do
Also Stephen A: he never should’ve left
He’s not! Pick an option... If he’s done the weakest move, let him prove you wrong
He is actually pointing out that he left to play with Kyrie ( with Kyrie ) Lmao
It's almost like he's a clown. He looks like one, talks like one, and has about the same entertainment value. I'm upset youtube auto played this garbage and gave it a view.
Those aren’t mutually exclusive takes
Exactly… And you did create the narrative. No one else brought this up but you.
When LeBron went back to Cleveland, they instantly went to the finals. We always give KD a pass but if LeBron was in the same situation as KD currently is, the media would be killing LeBron.
Facts! And thats because KD isn't considered the Goat or the 2nd best player in NBA history
@@AB1B1 True but people were trying to put him up there with LeBron. I just don't want to hear anything about KD being in the same category as LeBron.
That’s because Lebron is one of the greatest to ever play basketball. KD is just another guy. He’s no where near Lebron’s level in terms of legacy. No where near
@@darylmartin8436 He's up there w/ Bron as far as talent. All the other stuff they can take a chill pill on that
Facts 💯
Put it to rest. Just remember who needed who. It's just like when Kobe won after Shaq. Though he replaced Shaq with Pau. Still, he was THE man. In this case, remember who joined, who left, and who won after. KD should thank GSW for giving him a taste.
But wait, wasn't it the warriors who approached KD to come to their team? Begged actually
You also have to remember Shaq won one without Kobe too
@@debbiebgood3791 the word you are looking for is “recruited”, like all teams do…
@@jeremymartinez6024 draymond didn't even leave the arena b4 he was trying to get kd
@@debbiebgood3791 doesn't matter KD was the free agent and it was 100% his choice, he chose to go to golden state he made that decision.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: to this point, I’ve never seen a “superstar” need as much help to win a chip than KD.
KD was playing 2k for 3 seasons basically……any allstar would have won next to Steph/klay/draymond/iggy/Livingston and coach Kerr
@@bigboner23 yep. And he hasn’t won squat without that lineup.
LeBron*
@@WuzohHitsBills not even close. Lebron has 4 chips with 3 different teams, and NONE of them were anywhere near the KD Warriors.
Lebron hand pick is teams like he at the gym if teaming up with a fmvp and bosh is not weak
The warriors won with three different small forwards. Harrison Barnes Kevin Durant and now Andrew Wiggins
That first win was more Iggy than Barnes. I think Iggy replaced Barnes in the starting lineup.
curry greatest player of all time goat of goats
Seemed liked you didn’t even watch 15 finals. Iggy replaced Andrew bogut(center) for Warriors after they down 2-1 VS cleaveland. They haven’t lost a single game after that with that death line up
Liked this Boston Celtics series after Looney was replaced by Otto porter jr. they haven’t lost single game too because they going for full fire power starting line up.
They could probably win with you and I too
WROOOONG! KD is actually viewed, not just as a guy who left that situation, but as the guy who cannot won without a mega-super team and joined them in the first place!
Yes ! He moving the situation cuz he dont want KD to go after him lol
He should've went to Boston and got his own rings..
He was my favorite player until that move
When Lebron leaves a team, he wins in the next destination. Winning validates leaving. KD still had nothing to show up for. KD suddenly had another chip added on his shoulder
Yes, he cannot "won" without a mega-super team. Lmao
Peach
As a GSW fan, i never wanted KD on the team to begin with....i knew he'd steal the shine away from the splash bros (especially Steph) , which is what happened. However i enjoyed them winning rings. When he left, i felt it was selfish..especially for Kyrie. This is what he gets for thinking he can leave a great unselfish team for a guy who doesn't even play a whole season. I hope KD regrets his decision but im glad everyone sees GSW can win without him with another squad !
Facts
The craziest part of it all was that KD had his best stats with GS. He even came a better defender. He literally contradicted himself when he said that he wanted to go play selfless basketball and turned around and bashed Steve Kerr for that very same reason when he decided to leave GS.
Ya we’ll they were not beating the cavs that next season thts why they got KD don’t forget tht lol
@@thadude2862 Idk why ppl keep saying that. GS could’ve beaten the Cavs without KD. Yes that Cavs team was injured when they beat them the year before but when both team were heathy it still took the Cavs 7 GAMES AND a Draymond suspension to win that series. GS had a good chance to beat the Cavs as is and really what they did is rob the fans of an all time Finals rivalry of a 3rd rematch like boxing.
Yall was begging for this man now yall hate him? Lebron would be sitting on 6 rings and Kyrie 3 rings, yall should be more grateful he came, yall wasn't beating Lebron again after a 3-1 choke he figured yall out
Grateful for the KD years and what he brought to the bay but yeah this proves that he needed them more than they needed him. Hope he finds whatever it is that he is looking for in Brooklyn.
I mean, to Jay’s point, if you’re gonna be a player that single-handedly establishes a winning culture for a franchise, you need to be a strong leader that can shoulder the load of the entire organization. That was LeBron going back to Cleveland. KD is a guy that - by his own admission - just wants to hoop; he’s similar to Kawhi in that respect. He’s not much of a natural leader who’s gonna hold guys accountable and all that. He’s not a culture-setter, despite being an incredible player.
Agreed. GS was the perfect for do him play style and personality wise. But he wanted to be the alpha dog and that was never gonna happen there with steph. If you wanna be the alpha you have to be a leader,or at least set the tone. Kd has never been that guy, Uber talented but doesn’t have that extra piece to me
Lebron had kyrie avg 28ppg in Finals. He didn't "shoulder entire load of organization"
What you just said is EXACTLY EXACTLY what I said. KD is a great player but not a good leader in any means of the word. There are certain players who just have that gene or whatever you want to call it, to win. KD is not that, plain and simple
@@vulcanraven9701 This, Kyrie was *balling* out as good as a 1b you'll ever see in a final.
Lebron went back to Cleveland for a reason and it wasn't to 'do right to Cleveland lol'
I think KD forgets that he said that, I think everyone forgets that he said that. It doesn't fit the narrative they want for him, and he certainly can't admit that again because it takes some air out of what he argues. You just want to hoop, to play, but you want to win on your own. If he just wanted to hoop and be apart of a good organization and help people win, GS was the stop, that would have been the best place for him. But, like Lebron, I don't think he was really ready for that style of basketball, were so much is put into "team" and not "star + team". KD is going to have to create that culture in Brooklyn and be the leader if he wants that outcome. You can't tell your friend you don't care where y'all go, but then give a list of things you won't do and places you won't go. Either you want to be the guy in the role, or you want to be a role player just happy to support your team.
This is worst lineup the warriors have going into the finals. The big 3 are old, they're still playing small most of the time, they don't have KD and the other pieces are very experimental. That's why this championship is so much sweeter than the last three. They deserve every bit of this chip.
however, the bench is deeper now, altough Iggy and the youung guys barely played
Big 3 aging but Wiggins was on fire in these finals and Curry doesnt seem to have lost a step at all. Warriors will have a good future in the next couple years due to the young killers they have + Curry.
that along with klay's journey through injury, wiggs blossoming into the player he can be and steph entering goat talks... This one really is the sweetest
They got lucky curry sucks
@@n0follow he is not in the goat discussion relax
This proves that winning it all isn't just about basketball skill set. Personality, Character, Work ethics, and Faith all matters!
I love how you spent just a little extra time to capitalize all the adjectives! Details matter! lol
exactly, and thats what jordan learned when phil came in.
No asterisk on this season. Fax.
Stephen A. literally created the narrative 😭 nobody said that until he did
Nah facts😂
Saint aubuyn fax he literally is making this up that kd is viewed like this now
a lot of people did even me
@@Christappedin did you say it BEFORE or AFTER Stephen A. first said it?
EXACTLY and KD called him out on it too. lmao
KD couldn’t do it on his own, he needed the warriors. Facts!
The warriors needed KD to beat Lebron
@@randymoss789 I cannot argue with that, and I won’t. I just think KD doesn’t have the level of respect he could have had. His choices have been poor.
@@randymoss789 you need to be educated about 2015 when Warriors beat Lebron
@@johnjones7023 when he didn’t have kai or klove healthy u casual
@@randymoss789 No no they didn’t. They had beat Lebron on their own and were one game away the next time. But who’s gonna say no to Kevin joining you? With KD victory was a certainty. Without KD victory was still a strong possibility.
KD was sick of the everyone telling him he joined a championship team. It’s great for the league he moved.
Great for the league, bad for KD
SAS in 2016: “KD will be remembered as the player who left OKC to join a super team with Steph and Klay instead of doing it on his own”
SAS in 2022: “KD will be remembered as the player who left Steph and Klay to go do it on his own instead staying and winning a championship”
SMH. SAS talk so much he don’t even remember half of what he says
Context is important here.
Yep, he should have just stayed and everyone would have forgotten and forgiven him.
@@opendebate Exactly!!! People are taking soundbites and think they are making points with no context attached.
KD will be remembered as just a luxury for Golden State and not for himself.
I appreciate KD letting us get Dlo via sign and trade instead of just living in free agency that ultimately propelled us to get Wiggins so ty KD
TY kd for snakin steph so he could get wiggins
Who is us ? 😂😂😂😂
And Kuminga. That is the pick that the wiggins trade gave us
@@DavidGonzalez-xm8qh Us = GSW fans + the GSW organization. Us.
Wiggings, Kuminga and Moody
The issue isn't KD leaving, the issue is KD leaving to lead a team and his team has been rocky year after year. He cant manage a team because he doesn't have those character traits. He is more like a Kawhi where they are there purely to ball, but you better never hope to expect them to be the glue holding your organization together.
Ya but to be fair kwahi got a ring leading a team to championship KD still hasn't done that
@@classyredneckcinema9327 your right hes got 2 lol....just cuz your bitter and dont count them because the whole team was amazing doesnt mean he wasnt the most effective/deciding factor to win said games, hence 2 finals mvps...just like i count every ring a legend has even though most of them had to build a crazy team to get it like lebron and jordan.
Bro Kawhi literally took a mediocre team on his back that hasnt won a thing to win its first championship.
How does one manage a team that has injuries to key players? In 2020 it was Kyrie and Harden, this season Kyrie was a part time player, Harden was traded mid season and his replacement never played a single minute this season while dealing with a back injury, they were also down their best shooter with an ankle injury since mid November 2021.
But doesn't KD say he's just there to ball all the time. He never talks about being a leader
Stephen A. used 5 of the biggest words in Webster’s dictionary in the first 3 minutes
The only stain I feel KD have is leaving his team to join a super team who didn’t need him just to get a ring! Him leaving that great team to try and win on his own is NOT bad at all. He’s trying to prove us wrong he just keep failing at that attempt
@vliduu zeeb both statements are true tho. it was the weakest move but him leaving to play with kyrie was a very stupid move lmao
The best success of KDs career is cuz of Golden State.......
Let’s remember that KD left not to be with Kyrie but because he didn’t feel fully apart of the team because it was seen as KD and warriors not just the warriors. He wasn’t fully apart and draymond made that clear when they had that argument. It was over after that.
Most sensible post so far. Talking heads keep making mountains out of molehills because they know most people just want an easy to digest narrative with someone to root for and someone to root against to keep them entertained.
@@J-Hue further proving why Kyrie’s assessment of these media folks being pawns is more accurate then ever
Thank you lol
They’re steady trying to diminish it like it was just a Kyrie or steph choice smh so much more went into his decision
Cause he was jealous of Steph Curry being the man. Real emotional behavior...
I hope KD wins a ring on his own because if he doesn’t everyone always gonna remember him as just a scorer who was along for the ride on one of the best dynasties ever.
I hope he doesn't. OKC are going to be in trouble of losing that team (again) soon, and it's all thanks to this ring chaser. KD never learned to be a leader, he invested his time in egg accounts and finding easy rings.
Rider don’t win back to back fmvp and average 35 in a finals series
Ain’t happening buddy Kd not winning in Brooklyn as long as Giannis there
Hope he never does. Should have never went to GS in the first place. He sold his career for 2 titles that he won’t ever get the true credit for. He gets what he deserves. He was never anything more than just a dynamic scorer. He’s not MJ, or Kobe, or LBJ. Never was in the same breath as those guys
kd just a scorer hes not a leader or 1vs5 guy like leking, kd is great at scoring, great midrange shot thats all
I been a warriors fan my whole life. I ain't finna jump on bloods line and diss him just because he left when he did. He had his reasons and whatever he does he still is one of the best players ever.
Well said.
Whoever gets a champion is the hero no matter where is he teamed with! Because a hero delivers leadership!
Facts let’s not forget Kd and draymond was getting into a lot
Draymond green "We dont need you. We won without you. Leave"
KD won a title on Curry team
He wanted to get on the curry 🚎
Charles Barkley was right KD rode the bus.
KD with the warriors was just unfair to the rest of the league to be honest .. I'm so happy he did leave .. now we have really good teams in both conferences and much better competition
curry greatest player of all time goat of goats
Robbed LeBron of at LEAST one more title. Stacked the deck in his favor to an unfair amount smh
KD ruined the league for 2 years, not going to lie, I watched 2017 to see what an overpowered superteam can do against LeBron, but I didn't even watch 2018 because from what I witness in 2017, GSW will win again easy, no fun, no competition, what's the point. As a basketball fan, 2017/2018 were boring years, 2015/2016 were good years and it was the same two teams, difference? KD. I always liked GSW as a team, but you have to admit 2017/2018 were BS and if you don't think that, you're a GSW fan. I will give GSW full credit for winning 2015, injuries is part of the game and was disappointed they didn't win 2016 losing 3 straight to the Cavs but imagine if the 2019 Raptors kept DeRozen and just added Kawhi? That's literally what GSW were in 2017/2018.
Toronto said stfu
@@figo007tv God gave Toronto an easy W. At least acknowledge that Achilles is the MVP.
I love every minute of it KD for the rest of his career is gonna have to look to Steph as the better player and teammate
KD left us in okc because of how we played “basketball” just to be in Brooklyn with a worst team & iso basketball.
It’s funny Westbrook set up Kd for so many easy buckets compared to Kyrie
 Where’s Westbrick now? Oh that’s right 11th seed, hasn’t past 2nd round since KD left. KD carried Westbrick.
@@montgomeryscottys8213 I mean when you have the ball 70% of the time, its not hard to dish to KD. Kyrie's only issue is that he hasn't shown up enough to even play but I can tell you right now Kyrie plays a much much more winning brand of basketball that Westbrick.
@@khairulkafee9500 I’m a Kd fan, 2 seasons never flew by so fast with Westbrook. Kyrie not playing wastes the season before it starts 😐
@@montgomeryscottys8213 People must admit at least Russ play games while Kyrie usually not.
He was weak for joining them in the first place. Looks even worse now because he clearly needed them way more than they needed him. Dozens of players could’ve replaced KD then and now and it’s still steak and lobster playing with Steph Klay and Draymond. Just look at Wiggins.
well said
THAT PART. Only the people who blindly ride KD doesn't understand
I guess Draymond Greene was right. Lool
Nah Wiggins was giving me 18 ah game and pull was giving up 12 ah game that’s 30 pts and looney gave them a lil extra soem night so that’s 30-35 pts in production that they made up to replace kd production
So so many it’s not even funny. They literally could’ve made a run with a post-injury Paul George KD is literally irrelevant.
KD dissed Steve Kerr and the Warriors play styles with their motion offense after he left them. He wanted to more iso ball and be able play hero ball like how he played in okc so he can get all the credits. 🤡
he left curry for kyrie and play more iso like his okc days where he won nothing💀
Because KD wanted to play hero ball and wanted to come in a d take GSW over and that didn't happen. So he pouted and picked up his ball and walked away to nothing. He got kyrie Irving who is so wishy washy even with out the covid thing. Just down right BS
I'm not an NBA fanatics, but when i saw how Curry played in NCAA 2008, I got interested following all his games in NCAA and onto draft 2009 ... That's when i know GSW team exists.
We already know they didn't really need Kd but it was great watching them play together no doubt
No it wasnt tf
@@kid.turtle what you mean bro
@@Rixx432 It wasnt fun watching them. Just like it wasnt fun playing with them on 2k
Kevin Durant legacy look more and more like he needed the gsw then the other way around. Kd is not a better player then curry either.
Durant is clearly the better player but curry has the leadership and intangibles
Any good player can win with GSW. You’re right but defensively, KD is much better than Curry.
@@danielaka9275 how? He not a better shooter, passer, handler of the ball, curry also has better off ball movement.
Kd is the better individual player, but curry is better at making a team better.
There is a difference in that and how both players should be valued.
@@kingabstract2288 so all you said was curry a better shooter. Okay we know that, but Kd is better defensively, can play all 5 positions, better rebounder, and definitely the better scorer.
1:30 - WRONG!!! Kevin Durant today is an afterthought. Literally no one is thinking about KD right now. Give it up to Steph and the Warriors on their win.
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I mean he was literally trending on Twitter after the Warriors won with people mocking him for leaving, so clearly some people are thinking about him.
Speak for yourself kd one of the goats he’s been doing this for 15 years plus at a high level my favorite player by far Idc what the narrative is.
@@Imnospy Durant is playing the villain. Steph is playing the hero.
Draymond Green voice “We was winning without you!!!” is getting louder inside the nappy of head of KD. No sleep
feel bad for KD bec the Warriors moves on when he left and won the title. no matter who's superstar join the GS, it's curry's team and another championship awaits them next season upon wiseman's return. congrats to steph for becoming a FMVP!!! you deserve it!!! 🐐
SAS has no issues with KD leaving Golden State, it’s that he left Curry for Iriving. KD could’ve gone anywhere else to play with a different player or team.
KD was going to leave regardless, it just so happens that he was cool with Kyrie and Kyrie suggested they go to Brooklyn.
@@aegonii8471 actaully no... kd only left bc to be contuined
Factual 😂
KD left Golden State for kindergarten. 😂😂😂
KD has NEVER won without curry. Curry won TWICE without KD… let that sink in
@@lllightskindude are you going to look yourself in the mirror and lie to yourself and say Iggy had a better finals (all 7 games) than Curry? Anybody who knows basketball knows that should’ve went to Curry doesn’t matter now though why? Because he just won finals MVP lmao stay mad
@@lllightskindude this dude has a parrots' brain .
@@lllightskindude Still 2 rings more
@@lllightskindude 2018 Steph was better than KD in the finals and in 2015 everyone without ain’t hatred towards Steph knows he was very deserving for that award. He realistically should have 2 possibly 3
@@johnnyluck86 Are you gonna look yourself in the mirror and lie to yourself that Steph is better than KD😂😂
Smartest Thing KD Did By Leaving The Warriors. He Was Saying Was Nothing Left For Me There. Understandable Where His Head Is At.💯
I agree 100%, that’s a huge mistake KD made, but still love him
So happy for Steph but I don't think celebrations need to be at KD's expense. Bob Myers explained that they only got Wiggins because Durant did them a favour and Wiggins has been the second best player by far.
Yes and now to the rest of the league it feels unfair they have Wiggins. Ha. No matter what golden state wins.
OK that can be true but the fact is Durrant deserves to get criticism . If people weren’t saying that he was the best player on Golden State and that curry needed to prove that he was even on Duran‘s level then this would not be necessary. The problem is Curry was the best player all along. Durant needs to lead a team to a championship to prove himself because the fact is it looks like if not for Golden State he would not have a championship . It also factors and that he played so bad against the Celtics but Curry had his best series ever
I think the question of who's better is tricky. If you gotta plug a player into a random team, most ppl would pick KD. He has all the physical advantages. If you need a franchise leader who shows character and commitment and leadership etc, it's Steph by miles. So you're right that KD hasn't shown he can lead a championship team- but for me that's a knock on his character rather than his basketball skills.
KD should have did a sign and trade. If it wasn't for the Warriors KD would still have 0 rings
This just shows how even though the warriors had durant, steph was always the best player and draymond green was right about durant being unnecessary for the team.
If kd was “unnecessary” then why did the warriors go for him in 2016? They already won without him right? So why go for him. Makes literally no sense
I disagree I don’t think Steph is better than Durant & Draymond saying that is him being hypercritical because they recruited him so they deserve the same lashing folks been giving KD about joining an already great team.
@@thatboiiinice3113 They just won a championship without him, he was unnecessary. I believe they teamed up mainly for the fact they were getting tired of lebron creating superteams,flopping and snitching.
@@ummok720 them winning years after he left doesn’t change they needed him at the time
@@rashonhall794 steph is the most important player on warriors, KD was an ultimate weapon that they added but still warriors offense runs because of steph
Part of the reason KD left is because he ended up wanting to play more iso after what happened in the finals with draymond not giving him the ball. So he left the environment he ultimately wanted with the warriors only to return to the environment he originally left in OKC
Yeah no. He got what he wanted out of it and wanted to leave. He was not coming long term anyways. I'm glad KD left. He served his purpose and moved on. He has nothing to prove and just wants to hoop. The media wants to stir stuff up and continues doing so. This championship has nothing to do with Durant, why bring it up.
@@debbiebgood3791 it does have something to do with him though. Mostly the fact that he joined a team that was already championship caliber which diminishes the magnitude of them winning. Not to mention most of the supporting cast from this championship is only there because of KD’s decision to sign and trade
Always was and has been Steph’s team. KD did the same thing lebron did and wanted to see how it felt to win a ring with an established team. Steph stayed true to one team and built a dynasty. Loyal guy that deserves all the praise. But most importantly he earned it.
As much as LeBron helped ruin the league with super teams his move to Miami and KD’s move to the Warriors are on vastly different scales.
@@Loganbub no difference you just nut hugging
it is not the same thing u dumphuqq clippersfan
@@Loganbub if lebron's teams were so super why was he the underdog sven out of nine finals udiott
@@Loganbub stewpid razzist
Celtics was suppose to be the better defensive team and they had the dpoy. None of them could've guarded steph. Steph locked down jayson tatum etc multiple times, steph is a superstar two way player
DPOY who's flopping like a fish. Defense is not tumbling at a slightest touch. And I didn't see much defensive plays in the finals.
Wiggins was Tatum primary defender, not Steph Curry.
Eh I wouldn’t go that far lol. Marcus was bullying Steph on defense
@@nostalgiacorner1999 For like one game, then Steph made adjustments and the team made adjustments. Steph played very well defensively this series and especially that last game, and the team played great on help when Steph had a mismatch with Steph solidly holding his own. You want bullying, the Finals MVP is who you wanna talk to.
Supposed? They were but people somehow underrate Warriors defense, even tho the Dubs are always top 5 in defense people scoff it maybe cuz of how their defence is potent.
"Nights like this I wish that raindrops would fall. "🤣
🗣️SA IS TURNING TO A REAL LIFE Sesame Street characters🤣
KD left because he wants to build his own team, and he left on good terms which let the Warriors ultimately pick up Wiggins and Kuminga, so from that aspect I think they can stop slandering him.
KD definitely isn't exactly good at playing GM though, as the team he was trying to build was probably worse than OKC when he was there.
I don’t think it was as good terms as we think… very passive aggressiveness on both sides. KD throwing subtle shots and definitely hates the Warriors winning proves that imo.
If he did leave on Good terms ….He wouldn’t be shading the warriors
They got D'Angelo Russell. These other players came way after KD left don't give him credit for it. KD was leaving before he even arrived
@@jordanharris5450 yea KD left on bad terms for sure
@@yaadbwaiientertainment7951 exactly. 💯
No. That’s how YOU look at it SAS. Everyone else know KD was never and will never in the conversation for best.
Crazy comment
There was no need to take a shot at Kyrie, but you don’t have the same energy for Skip lmaoo
How come Stephen A. excluded Kyrie in the same convo as KD? If I recall, Kyrie lied about wanting to resign his contract with the Celtics
He said he lost because of Kyrie and they play together
Steph didn’t need KD. KD needed Steph
It’s crazy how KD got so much time to reply to randoms on Twitter and go at Stephen A but doesn’t have time to congratulate his former team on winning the championship. I guess those are his “Brothers” though.😂
He is nothing, shouldn’t come to the warriors in the first place. He is all over himself.
He likely called and Text them.
How you know he didn't text them? Everything don't have to be on social media
Nah. Not crazy. /
I'm sure he already has!!
I love how SAS was the first person that said KD is going to look bad and now he's saying he didn't create that narrative 😂😂😂
They really know how to sum someone’s life up with a game
KD ultimately wasn't happy, and there were a multitude of reasons why he left. Mostly I believe he wanted to prove he could do it by being the centerpiece and focal point of a team by assembling his cast of teammates. His sensitivity to the chatter about him joining the Warriors led him to try and prove everyone wrong. So far its not looking good for him
Exactly
Well that’s the same sauce that made him go there in the first place smh this why you don’t listen to the chatter but when you soft minded this happens unfortunately lol
@@sasagitcrew437 lol
Even more so, the powers that be in Brooklyn can't build a team like Golden State can. There's no Steve Kerr in Brooklyn either.
As (Fake) Dr. Phil says...How's that working out for you now???
If KD could only see the greater good if he had stayed in Golden State, his legacy would be greater.
SAS then: That was the weakest move ever (going to GS)
Media then: KD needs to get his own team. Being on GS makes the season unwatchable.
SAS now: People are going to question why KD left Golden State.
😐
Just celebrate the Warriors. They just won last night lol. Talk about the draft and FA. New and upcoming players to watch in the league.
These type of debates are lazy
He a clown
SAS ... is two in one
SAS speaks out of all sides of his mouth and changes his tune hourly. He was the guy not long ago saying that he believes Steph will never wing another ring (Steph even mentioned that in the post game presser last night). Immediately after they won SAS was saying he predicted Steph would win since the beginning of the season. Dude is a joke.
On point
One plays in the NBA, one gossips everyday. Levels to this. Lol
KD will be remembered as a top 2 talent that went to arguably the greatest assembled regular season team ever, after blowing a 3-1 lead against them in the playoffs… Not as the guy that left Curry for Kyrie
He will be remembered as the guy who left his own team for the team that beat them in order to win a championship.
KD is a joke.
@@allexsanchez2714 Yep
The Warriors culture is incredible
You definitely started that narrative . I never heard anybody speak about this until you brought it up lol .
He definitely did. KD even said it. What's crazy is if he didn't leave they'd still be bitchin about how easy his 4 or 5 rings would've been and how they don't count so he left to build his thing and now it's a story about him leaving.
KD sittin at home and they still find a negative story to talk about him. And they wonder why he hates the media
As a lifelong Dubs fan, thanks Smith, but he helped us get 2 championships. He is part of the brotherhood. I remember us sending Mullin to the Pacers and sincerely wishing him luck in getting himself a ring.
I disagree. KD has been slandering Steph behind his back in NBA circles for a while. That's not a brotherhood. KD is insecure and has never appreciated what Steph and The Warriors did for him.
I like and appreciate KD as a 50 years Dubs fan. But truth be told, he began trending towards iso balling his last year with the Dubs which is why he questioned Kerr's system and voiced a desire for more variety in the offense. When he became iso friendly the teams play declined a little. I believe KD saw the beauty of ball movement and enjoyed it while it was new to him, but later felt he needed to revert to being who and what he naturally is, which is an iso baller. Iso ballers rarely when titles, especially in this era.
KD plays best when he has a ball handler that can distribute. So despite Harden lack of production the team was still successful with them on the court. I don't know where you're getting this Iso nonsense from. He did it because he had to at some points because the warriors became to reliant.
@@libraalibaba Not really. The iso balling began when Curry was hurt and KD began doing more to carry the load. However; when Curry returned he continued deviating from the program and iso balling and later questioning Steve Kerr and his reliance on the single system. The teams record and performance experience a noticeable dip until KD went down with an injury. While he was injured Curry carried the team to a 25-1 record in KD's absence.
@@libraalibaba KD and Harden combination, won zero titles. Just say'n. The same results he's had his entire career outside of GS. Note: I like KD and appreciate his contributions to the Dubs. But it is what it is.
iso baller = ball hog
-He never should have left Curry!-
*He never should've joined Curry in the 1st place!*
I’m so confused, did we not want parity in this league? Was KD leaving the Warriors not a good thing? What is this?
This is what the media does. Sensationalist, shallow takes to bring in viewers.
People wanted him to do it on his own but now they are backtracking and saying he made a mistake leaving them. Typical media flip flop.
Keep that same energy for all the teaming up Lebron be doing 😂😂😂😂
Man just said he wanted to team up with Curry lmao
KD leaving was definitely good. Because him going to GSW ruined the NBA. Now it’s watchable again
But lebron can do it and nobody say anything where is that parity ??? But the warriors do and everybody was talk about they rings not being legit smh Kevin should have stayed and said forget what everyone has to say…. Kevin Durant going to golden state is no different then what lebron did after leaving cavs
KD is simply the greatest Role Player in the game!
He had massively talented teams in OKC and couldn't get it done.
He only won when he was a role player playing with a generational talent in Curry.
But being the head case he is, he never appreciated the Curry stepped back to let him shine, he thinks it all him!
That man just said “Prognosticate”
You created it Stephen a no one thought about this take until you said it
I like the calm way Jay Williams responded. Way easier to digest than some of the screaming that can go on.
The media was saying kd was the only reason they won those 2 finals
Now you give props to curry
So inspirational
I hope Kevin gets what he wants. He is an excellent player.
Honestly I respect that KD is trying to do it on a team that won't win a championship without him. The results haven't been great so far but I respect that more than I would have if he stayed on that bandwagon.
The entire world wanted KD gone, he was forced out.
Respect for what ? He joined a superstar (Kyrie ) and recruited another Superstar (Harden) He did a Miami Lebron...
@@robzsarmy5471 Kyrie isn't really a super star, I doubt he can be the best player on a championship team, never made All NBA First Team and only has 3 All NBA selections in his career. He's a great offensive talent but he just isn't it. He is a pretty ideal number 2 option but he's just that on a team that can go places. As for Harden, I don't think he really recruited him and I hear he wasn't crazy about that pick up. If I'm the Nets I make that trade anyway because for a team it doesn't really matter how you win championships and sell tickets but he didn't make that choice. Now it's KD, Kyrie and Simmons. Not a super team but a good big 3.
@@robzsarmy5471 kyrie is not a superstar, steph,lebron,Giannis,Kawhi,Jokic those are the only other superstars besides KD
@@user-zy4ki5vj1e Harden was a super star when he join Brooklyn even if let's say Kyrie is just a star
Why can't we just all agree that Warriors and KD both benefited from each other? KD left because he wanted a challenge but gets attacked for it when he should be praised for it.
Yet LaBron James Jumped from team to team to team and no one even fluttered an eyelash. To me what LaQueen did makes his rings invalid.
The thing is he left the warriors to play WITH kyrie
@@gswfan694 So?
@@onidtubes he went ring chasing just with a different team
Why isn't First Take covering Montrezl Harrell's weed news??? I'm still waiting for Stephen A Smith rant!!!!!
A HUGE PART of KD's legacy will be the fact that he left a selfless team, for selfish reasons
He was winning titles and NBA Finals MVP's in Golden State, but that wasn't enough, was it?
He was playing on a team that played the right way, that embraced him, but that wasn't enough
He wanted all the shine, all the credit, so he took his talents to Brooklyn. His biggest mistake.
We all know the warriors were always going to be Stephs team. He wanted to write his own story not feel like he was a part of someone else's. I actually respect him nore for leaving.
@@funkslave9425 lol kd was foolish for allowing media n fans pressure him to leave, all that narrative of its not ure team, him winning finals mvp saw people place him ahead of steph....i hope he has learned a valuable lesson, titles are worth way more than some random fan/media analysts so called respect....and then he teamed up with kyrie of all people lol
You know I never thought about this but KD leaving was the best decision for both parties. He was hurt, Klay was hurt and Steph got hurt right after that finals. They wouldn’t have had the money to build that team up again. Someone needed to leave. KD made the best decision he could.
They would have been able to build similar team minus the draft picks they just would have had a higher luxury tax bill. A healthy Steph and Kd would have had a decent chance at winning the title last year and a healthy Steph klay draymond and kd likely win the title again this yr. Porter, Bjelica, gp all minimum contracts looney low cost and had bird rights Poole was drafted the off-season he left. They wouldn’t be as set for future with wiseman, kuminga, and moody although they might have still had wiseman considering kd wouldn’t have played 2020. But I’m glad he left now bc we have been able to see Steph lead a team
😭😭 the media’s obsession with KD is horrendous. That man haven’t played a game in months
Everybody: "i"
Stephen A.: "ahhh"
KD joins the Warriors
The Media: He jumped on the bandwagon for a title.
KD leaves the Warriors
The Media: You could have won another title.
KD got hated on for joining golden state. Now he’s getting hated on for leaving hahahh
I love how many GS fans there are now. When I was growing up you couldn’t find one outside of CA
Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irvine getting matching pedicures right this minute!
Stephen A is just wrong. If KD stayed people would still be discounting his rings, Barkley was literally on get up saying KD needs to "be the bus driver on a winner". Some people look at KD as needing steph to win it all, I think that's ridiculous, but its on KD to go get another one.
You Too Right! Literally can’t say it any better!
Fr, no matter what KD did people would have something to say. If he stayed everyone would be saying “his rings don’t count” he leaves everyone still has a problem
Isn’t ridiculous.
KD has not been able to win without Steph
Curry won before and after KD
It’s like Lebron couldn’t win without another Super Star
Agreed. KD left because he wants to build his own legacy. People call him sensitive, but the reality is people will always remember KD as the one that hopped on a championship contender and got 2 chips for free, despite arguably being the best player in both finals. He doesn't need more rings with the warriors, so it's up to him to prove that he can do it or not.
Regardless of whether he can do it or not, it still takes guts to leave like that trying to prove himself.
@@maxmx767 with the type of player KD is, I wouldn’t count him out for too long. BK is giving him the keys next year, Kyrie has to be on his best behavior lol. I’m not arguing against needing another star to win. But Curry was just one chapter of KD’s success just like Kyrie to LeBron, Dwade to LeBron (2x), and AD to LeBron. Kevin isn’t finished.
They criticize when KD went to gsw. They criticize when KD left even he agreed sign and trade or gave his achilles to them. They criticize when KD couldn’t control all those things out of his control. Anyway, no matter what, whenever it is, just like in OKC, it was clearly GMs and Westbrook didn’t play winning basketball but it’s all KD’s fault.
Tell that to KD who thinks highly of himself that he is the reason GSW won 2 titles with him Draymond said it to his face they didn't need him and prove him wrong again mofo always credits himself not the team he is on and he also criticize Steve Kerr's playbook that it does not work in the playoffs dude needs to STFU
KD Made the smart decision. During 2019 everyone got hurt including steph… They just didn’t have the money to build that team up again. Someone had to go.
Or hear this out, Kevin Durant is just a generational talent with no leadership quality to lead a team.
That is a serious misrepresentation of what happened in Oklahoma City. People forget in those last three games in 2016 Durant was the worst player between Westbrook and him. Oklahoma City and Westbrook definitely had a great team around them and built it for Durant so stop it that young team that had stars everywhere and a superstar right alongside him went to the finals earlier in their journey. Even that team although it was not as loaded also had a great team around them before he left. Durant does docket criticize no matter what he does he went to the most stacked team on the planet in golden state so yes he got criticized. Now he is getting criticized for not playing well enough against Boston and the fact that he needs to prove he can be the best player on a championship team. He has not proven he can be the best player on a championship team because he wasn’t in Golden State that was Curry. If the rant wants to be on the same level as curry all time and be a top 10 kind of player that he needs to lead a team to a championship and prove that he can do it if not OK he’s probably the greatest bus rider there ever is. No one was criticizing him for things out of his control because he chose to go to Golden State and make them unbeatable. He chose to go to a team in Brooklyn to prove that he can win a title by himself and lead a team and he has not done that yet so he’s going to get criticized because he’s been playing for a long time and he still hasn’t let his team to a championship it’s all warranted criticism but if people try to criticize Kevin Durant by saying he’s not as great as curry or that he needs to lead his team to a championship oh no what are we gonna do . He needs to win a championship because right now it looks like he needed Golden State and the Warriors to win a championship which makes him and his career maybe the greatest second option ever because he’s not in that class of guys that can lead to a championship even though he is a generational talent
KD going to GSW was pathetic. I don't even count those rings.
J Will is always so serious lol
I wonder how many times Kyrie Irving has come out of SAS mouth this year 😂😂😂
KD had to leave GS because even though he is a 2x finals MVP and champion it was never validated because he was on a team with steph klay n drey…y’all pushed that narrative so he left
And he failed to respond to that narrative. Warriors won without him, he never won without Golden State. He pretty much confirmed the narrative. Maybe it wouldnt have been this way had he not left. It would've been just a what if scenario.
So lebron chips never counted in miami yet alone cleveland nor the lakers
@@argc he never had a chance to prove that narrative wrong since leaving he’s dealt with injuries and so has key players on his team had Injuries 🤦♀
@@marlinesutherland5358 no one was injured this playoffs he got swept by Boston
@@spydahx7868 they were literally missing 2 starters 🤦♀🤦♀
KD was getting beat by the warriors for years and left to win with steph for a reason. He couldn't beat steph and that says everything you need to know about how great steph is. Period!
@NastEvo peak refs...
Right how them mfs was holding curry and calling touch fouls on him the man fouled out a game
Lol KD got beat by the warriors one time in the playoffs . And people act like KD didn’t lead OKC to the finals and average 30 against the stacked heat team
He deserves for people to say whatever they're saying about him.
If KD didn't leave GSW then he could have been in the greatest dynasty ever and could have been a top 3 player OF ALL TIME. Easily over 6 championships.
But he had to get into his feelings.
Nobody looks at KD as the guy who left Golden State.. like that literally never entered my mind until you put it there lol
I totally agree with you. KD thought the Nets would be great. Golden State is the team to beat.
He should just go to the Lakers, that would be a dope nba western conference finals.. that would cement the warriors legacy even more if they can pull it off agaib
@@sillywillie5076 Too many egos on that team.
KD won’t smell the Finals again as long as Kyrie is there, or “not” there. After 3 seasons, Nets have only gotten worse with KD & Kyrie running the show.
The issue is kyrie. He needs to change a lot.
@@jorgerascon1212 Just wait until gentle Ben starts getting in his feelings the first time his game gets called out.
@@dentatusdentatus1592 i don't even think his going to play. So I'm not even thinking about him.
They are both iso ball scorer 😂😆 how work? 😂😆 Plus Coach Steve Nash is sucks when it comes on coaching
You’re counting his Achilles season?…and last season Kyrie got hurt otherwise they would’ve won it all.. they were crushing the bucks..this year Kyrie wasn’t able to play until 2 weeks before the playoffs…lol like what world are y’all from? It’s hard for me to believe y’all are even real people sometimes smh stop hating on the man he’s a great player and just wants to hoop