It's also a good idea to change out the plastic filter with a metal one due to the plastic ones splitting at the seam sometimes. 50psi can blow them apart. Cheers
I would add as being the primary cause of fuel pump failures. Many do not even know it exists! I was amazed how often I had to change them on my KTM 500 at 3000km or so, already starting to collapse. Given being blocked is a function of of the fuel cleanliness I was concerned for my 701 as doing a 5000km trip was not unusual. The fuel sock is a good addition despite its filling penalty. Tha fmaily here three KTM/Husky bikes of the similar ilk and will just have a service day and get in and change them while dealing with draining of tanks and the hassel. The 701 is not too bad to do given I have an Omega kit andthe pump lives in one of the front tanks now. For ADV work I carry a spare pump, filter and injector. At least have one in the group on hand. I see Keith Jobson had two failures on his recent trip. Be interesting to see what he says in his next discovery video.
Hey Brendon thanks for the information. Its all about sharing in the Motorbike world most good fix's are not factory. But rather based on some ones experience or tinkering in the shed. You are 100% correct in with the fuel filter changes. Lots of people ride bike but have no idea about half the workings that keep them going. Ill let Goldfish know to check/ replace his filter on his 500. 5000km trip on a 701 is a good effort. I don't actually carry a spare injector but I do carry the tools to backflush it. Send me the link to Keith Jobson's vid so i can check it out. And thanks for tuning in.
I'd be adding a fuel sock into both tanks and adding another fuel filter or fine stainless screen inline and upgrading the pump when I pick up my new 701, the quality of fuel from the servo you frequently use can definitely have an affect on this, that fuel is extremely dirty compared to where I buy mine but during adventure rides you have no idea what fuel quality you're getting. Still a fantastic bike regardless, thanks Simo for the awesome videos mate 👍
I put a fuel sock in the back tank, and filling up has become a painful process. I thought I had done something wrong with it before listening to your video. Why do you think the front works just fine and the rear makes filling up so slow?
I have been looking into this and am about to trial a fix. as i believe the sock floats up when you fill up and then gets twisted. I think we need to find a way to keep it down and open. I was thinking of sowing some sinkers to the bottom corners and put something in the sock to expand it as well but have yet to come up with the second part that is compatible with fuel. open to suggestions
I replaced my pump, filter socks, in tank filter, and in line filter at 6500 miles just because. They looked fine but I was elbow deep already so why not!
Sorry mate missed your comment. I got the fuel sock from Adventure components Australia. Its on the web site. Sorry i threw the packet out so not sure. and it just sits in the neck only secured by the fuel cap.
Re the Kemso pump, I tried that on my 500 and didn't use it as the spigot is smooth and the fuel hose slipped off overnight. NOte that the standard pumps have ridges on the spigot and you need these to keep the fuel hose on. Also the spigot on the Kemso is short compared to the standard pump. i agree that the chinese pumps are poor quality. You should always use the corrugated plastic fuel hose rather than rubber hose.
Mate I'm with you on the hose bit. Rubber hose does not seem to go well in this setup that I have seen. Did not have any problems securing the original hose to the pump. I got new crimp clamps and she's tight as.
@@simovision5894 I ended up installing a new corrugated hose as I also fitted a new longer aluminium bodied fuel filter which has replaceable elements. I used stainless hose clamps rather than the single use clamps, just in case one day I have to put in a new pump while on a ride.
Socks are good but note the earlier 690 has an even smaller bend in the rear filler area. Which would make it slower to refuel at a service station. filling with a jerry can is no issue. its the bubbles at the servo that causes the problems.
There's a small inline filter as well, up behind the front of the left side plate in the fuel line. My bike wouldn't rev out, had no top end, I changed both filters (Fuel tank and Inline filters), but I'm pretty sure it was the small inline filter causing the issues.
Yes Mr Drop Bear that's the one I'm referring to in the book. (Fuel screen.) I Could have explained that one a bit better I thought. Unfortunately I Need to take my air filter box out to show it properly. I have blown my out with brake clean a few times and reinstalled.
It's also a good idea to change out the plastic filter with a metal one due to the plastic ones splitting at the seam sometimes. 50psi can blow them apart. Cheers
Very interesting i have not herd of this before. But noted as i am due for a fuel filter change.
I would add as being the primary cause of fuel pump failures. Many do not even know it exists! I was amazed how often I had to change them on my KTM 500 at 3000km or so, already starting to collapse. Given being blocked is a function of of the fuel cleanliness I was concerned for my 701 as doing a 5000km trip was not unusual. The fuel sock is a good addition despite its filling penalty. Tha fmaily here three KTM/Husky bikes of the similar ilk and will just have a service day and get in and change them while dealing with draining of tanks and the hassel. The 701 is not too bad to do given I have an Omega kit andthe pump lives in one of the front tanks now. For ADV work I carry a spare pump, filter and injector. At least have one in the group on hand. I see Keith Jobson had two failures on his recent trip. Be interesting to see what he says in his next discovery video.
Hey Brendon thanks for the information. Its all about sharing in the Motorbike world most good fix's are not factory. But rather based on some ones experience or tinkering in the shed. You are 100% correct in with the fuel filter changes. Lots of people ride bike but have no idea about half the workings that keep them going. Ill let Goldfish know to check/ replace his filter on his 500. 5000km trip on a 701 is a good effort. I don't actually carry a spare injector but I do carry the tools to backflush it. Send me the link to Keith Jobson's vid so i can check it out.
And thanks for tuning in.
I'd be adding a fuel sock into both tanks and adding another fuel filter or fine stainless screen inline
and upgrading the pump when I pick up my new 701, the quality of fuel from the servo you frequently use can definitely have an affect on this, that fuel is extremely dirty compared to where I buy mine but during adventure rides you have no idea what fuel quality you're getting. Still a fantastic bike regardless, thanks Simo for the awesome videos mate 👍
your welcome mate. and yes we are forced to buy fuel from little servo's with dirty tanks its all part of the adventure.
I put a fuel sock in the back tank, and filling up has become a painful process. I thought I had done something wrong with it before listening to your video. Why do you think the front works just fine and the rear makes filling up so slow?
I have been looking into this and am about to trial a fix. as i believe the sock floats up when you fill up and then gets twisted. I think we need to find a way to keep it down and open. I was thinking of sowing some sinkers to the bottom corners and put something in the sock to expand it as well but have yet to come up with the second part that is compatible with fuel. open to suggestions
@@simovision5894 sounds promising! How about just putting a weight in? I’ll think about it. Keep me informed pls.
I replaced my pump, filter socks, in tank filter, and in line filter at 6500 miles just because. They looked fine but I was elbow deep already so why not!
Still a good idea all the same. You have done well. its all about trouble free motoring. Keep up the good work.
Hi great video yes very helpful spend the money replace the fuel pump & fuel sock
Thanks heaps Cheers
Your welcome mate. cant be to carful with this type of fuel system considering where we travel.
That looks like Phil's dust 2:00 😜
I always eat a lot of Phil's dust :-)
which fuel sock did you use for the Rade front tank and how did you secure it in place?
Sorry mate missed your comment. I got the fuel sock from Adventure components Australia. Its on the web site. Sorry i threw the packet out so not sure. and it just sits in the neck only secured by the fuel cap.
@@simovision5894 no dramas. Ive since fitted an inline fuel filter along the fuel line next to the frame between the tank outlet and petcock. 👍🏼
Re the Kemso pump, I tried that on my 500 and didn't use it as the spigot is smooth and the fuel hose slipped off overnight. NOte that the standard pumps have ridges on the spigot and you need these to keep the fuel hose on. Also the spigot on the Kemso is short compared to the standard pump. i agree that the chinese pumps are poor quality. You should always use the corrugated plastic fuel hose rather than rubber hose.
Mate I'm with you on the hose bit. Rubber hose does not seem to go well in this setup that I have seen. Did not have any problems securing the original hose to the pump. I got new crimp clamps and she's tight as.
@@simovision5894 I ended up installing a new corrugated hose as I also fitted a new longer aluminium bodied fuel filter which has replaceable elements. I used stainless hose clamps rather than the single use clamps, just in case one day I have to put in a new pump while on a ride.
That's a good idea. I have one of those stainless filters sitting on my shelf. Mite do a swap on my next filter change
Will get a sock after seeing that
Socks are good but note the earlier 690 has an even smaller bend in the rear filler area. Which would make it slower to refuel at a service station. filling with a jerry can is no issue. its the bubbles at the servo that causes the problems.
There's a small inline filter as well, up behind the front of the left side plate in the fuel line. My bike wouldn't rev out, had no top end, I changed both filters (Fuel tank and Inline filters), but I'm pretty sure it was the small inline filter causing the issues.
Yes Mr Drop Bear that's the one I'm referring to in the book. (Fuel screen.) I Could have explained that one a bit better I thought. Unfortunately I Need to take my air filter box out to show it properly. I have blown my out with brake clean a few times and reinstalled.