I did the race 4 times on a Tartan 10--generally the smallest and cheapest boats on the race. One year, we were transporting the boat back to Chicago, leaving Mackinac Island when "Windquest" the giant 88-footer (at the time, previous version of the boat shown at 8:31) came up behind us. As they were passing, we yelled to her delivery crew, "hey Windquest, our captain is so cheap he won't buy us beer! You got any?" They gave us a thumbs up and the 88 foot Windquest did a 360 around our little boat, came up on the starboard side, and threw us a 12-pack of Bud Light.
I was a cboe market maker and uses to race j24s out of Wilmette in Chicago. Our boat captain worked for Steve Fossett so he told us all the stories about him.
I watch this with special interest. I was just selected yesterday as crew for my first Chicago to Mackinac. I'll be on an Olson 34. At 72 years, I sometimes wonder if I have always been crazy. Then my friends remind me that this is only a knew insanity that aligns with my earlier insanities. What can I say? A friend offered an opportunity. I highly recommend that your response to any opportunity should be. 'Yes!'
I fell in love with sailing in the early 70s when introduced to a friend of the family that raced the Chicago-Mackinac. I believe he was the 1971 winner on a C&C 43.
As a 35 total Mac vetern is always nice to see other input and discussion about the race. The lightning on the 2011 race was unbelievable. You got freaked out when it went dark. My wife (also an old goat) actually put her sunglasses on. Last year was pretty close to same lightning wise. Having satellite weather really has been a game changer for most boats. The slow races are equally challenging, fighting the urge to turn on the engine and go! Mind you you've been eaten by lake flys for about 20 hours.
I loved this one as well. Yet another plea for you to cover the story of the Pride of Baltimore: a re-creation in the 20th Century of a 19th Century privateer' The "Pride" was lost at sea in a storm of Puerto Rico in 1986. A sad, but great story.. Thanks
Enjoyed the history of the Chicago side of the race and did not realize there were fatalities. Mainly follow the Port Huron to Mac race. In my younger days 1975 I believe I took part in this race as crew. Great experience. Did a few overnight races in preparation. Sail changes at night were not great but in the Mac race went really well.. we did 3 sail changes in 15 minutes.. practice make perfect.
Great Video I loved it. I was raised in Racine WI I did not get into sailing until I was living in Chicago in the late 60s I was the skipper of a Sea Scout Ship. We sailed the Chicago Sea Scout boat "Sea Witch" from Belmont Harbor to Michigan City. I have been interested in the Mack Race from that time on. Again loved your video and your videos. Thank you keep up the good work,
An Idea for a future video: The Canadian Weatherships Quadra and Vancouver. The vessels maintained a 24/7 watch at Station P (Papa) in the North Pacific. In 1979 or 1980 the Quadrs recorded the largest wave ever recorded. It was a 100 foot rogue. There is a lot of history with those old girls. I know, I was an oiler on the Quadra. If you would like details, let me know... I'll keep an eye out for your reply.
@historsea Cruising the lower St. Lawrence this summer, I had the pleasure of visiting a museum dedicated to the sinking of the Empress of Ireland. I think this would make a interesting video. One fact that I learned is that there was a crew member who survived both the sinking of the Titanic AND the sinking of the Empress of Ireland! Talk about a horseshoe up you know where! Lol Great videos. Thank you. Montreal.
Nice video on a great race. It's a shame that race doesn't get more attention. Sailing Sweet Ruca had some good videos about it from when they crewed for the overall win in 2019 and came back the next year to transport some boats and race again.
Im a life long resident of Michigan city. In my youth the " tri state " was the highlight of the summer .. once mcyc shut down . The tri state never came to the city again .. also at one point the city was the host to the largest in water boat show .. have you seen any historical info on these events ?
I owned and raced "Mufassa" a Kiwi 35 in Florida and California in the 90's -- Wingnuts had been fitted with a heavier mast and the keel bulb weight had been reduced. These modifications made Wingnuts more dangerous to sail -- the original design is safer. The hull shape or wings did not create the dangerous stability issue -- it was bad choices made by who ever decided to modify the boat.
Great video, only note is the singlehanded mac is not run by the Chicago Yacht Club, it is a separate event that runs in June every year put on by the Great Lakes Singlehanded Society
Alice Cooper : Well, I'm a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers were coming here as early as the late 1600s to trade with the Native Americans. Pete : In fact, isn't "Milwaukee" an Indian name? Alice Cooper : Yes, Pete, it is.Actually, it's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
From the photo in the video looks to me that the ‘Wingnut’ lost the bulb off their keel? If this was the case, any boat would have turtled no matter the design. But I have no other info, so easily could be wrong.
@JamieSmith-fz2mz the waves in the great Lakes are steep as compared to rhythmic rolling waves in the ocean. That's because the great lakes are shallow & the energy is forced upward
@@Johnsouthshore Thanks. I'm working on a book on Great Lakes sailing, and wave descriptions are a challenge because I haven't been on the oceans except to surf.
A sloop is a specific type of sailboat that has a single mast with a single headsail and a fore-and-aft mainsail. That’s the type of boat that he was referring to.
I did the race 4 times on a Tartan 10--generally the smallest and cheapest boats on the race. One year, we were transporting the boat back to Chicago, leaving Mackinac Island when "Windquest" the giant 88-footer (at the time, previous version of the boat shown at 8:31) came up behind us. As they were passing, we yelled to her delivery crew, "hey Windquest, our captain is so cheap he won't buy us beer! You got any?" They gave us a thumbs up and the 88 foot Windquest did a 360 around our little boat, came up on the starboard side, and threw us a 12-pack of Bud Light.
I was a cboe market maker and uses to race j24s out of Wilmette in Chicago. Our boat captain worked for Steve Fossett so he told us all the stories about him.
I watch this with special interest. I was just selected yesterday as crew for my first Chicago to Mackinac. I'll be on an Olson 34. At 72 years, I sometimes wonder if I have always been crazy. Then my friends remind me that this is only a knew insanity that aligns with my earlier insanities. What can I say? A friend offered an opportunity. I highly recommend that your response to any opportunity should be. 'Yes!'
Incredible history 🎉
I fell in love with sailing in the early 70s when introduced to a friend of the family that raced the Chicago-Mackinac. I believe he was the 1971 winner on a C&C 43.
As a 35 total Mac vetern is always nice to see other input and discussion about the race. The lightning on the 2011 race was unbelievable. You got freaked out when it went dark. My wife (also an old goat) actually put her sunglasses on. Last year was pretty close to same lightning wise. Having satellite weather really has been a game changer for most boats.
The slow races are equally challenging, fighting the urge to turn on the engine and go! Mind you you've been eaten by lake flys for about 20 hours.
Lightning didn't freak me out, but I did have to hang onto the boom,while reefing, until I could see again.
The Trans Superior race is longer at 350 miles, runs from Sault Saint Marie to Duluth on the largest freshwater lake in the world, Lake Superior
Water sloshing, nice touch
I loved this one as well. Yet another plea for you to cover the story of the Pride of Baltimore: a re-creation in the 20th Century of a 19th Century privateer' The "Pride" was lost at sea in a storm of Puerto Rico in 1986. A sad, but great story.. Thanks
Another great video!
Enjoyed the history of the Chicago side of the race and did not realize there were fatalities. Mainly follow the Port Huron to Mac race. In my younger days 1975 I believe I took part in this race as crew. Great experience. Did a few overnight races in preparation. Sail changes at night were not great but in the Mac race went really well.. we did 3 sail changes in 15 minutes.. practice make perfect.
Awesome narrative. Thanks Tim!
Really enjoyed this
Really enjoy the sailing content!
Great Video I loved it. I was raised in Racine WI I did not get into sailing until I was living in Chicago in the late 60s I was the skipper of a Sea Scout Ship. We sailed the Chicago Sea Scout boat "Sea Witch" from Belmont Harbor to Michigan City. I have been interested in the Mack Race from that time on. Again loved your video and your videos. Thank you keep up the good work,
doing great Tim! very interesting and inspiring!
Great video very interesting
Great episode. Can you cover the J Class please. Such beautiful boats.
I was aboard the original Coast Guard Cutter Mackinaw in 1984 for the race. Fog and lost boats were the norm for that year.
Hey Tim, when are when getting another episode? You got me hooked now.
An Idea for a future video: The Canadian Weatherships Quadra and Vancouver. The vessels maintained a 24/7 watch at Station P (Papa) in the North Pacific. In 1979 or 1980 the Quadrs recorded the largest wave ever recorded. It was a 100 foot rogue. There is a lot of history with those old girls. I know, I was an oiler on the Quadra. If you would like details, let me know... I'll keep an eye out for your reply.
@historsea
Cruising the lower St. Lawrence this summer, I had the pleasure of visiting a museum dedicated to the sinking of the Empress of Ireland. I think this would make a interesting video.
One fact that I learned is that there was a crew member who survived both the sinking of the Titanic AND the sinking of the Empress of Ireland!
Talk about a horseshoe up you know where! Lol
Great videos. Thank you.
Montreal.
Never heard of this before. Quite interesting.
Nice video on a great race. It's a shame that race doesn't get more attention. Sailing Sweet Ruca had some good videos about it from when they crewed for the overall win in 2019 and came back the next year to transport some boats and race again.
Im a life long resident of Michigan city. In my youth the " tri state " was the highlight of the summer .. once mcyc shut down . The tri state never came to the city again .. also at one point the city was the host to the largest in water boat show .. have you seen any historical info on these events ?
Sounds like serious fun to me. :D
I owned and raced "Mufassa" a Kiwi 35 in Florida and California in the 90's -- Wingnuts had been fitted with a heavier mast and the keel bulb weight had been reduced. These modifications made Wingnuts more dangerous to sail -- the original design is safer. The hull shape or wings did not create the dangerous stability issue -- it was bad choices made by who ever decided to modify the boat.
Grey creek regatta 100 years old, Kootenay lake BC
would be interesting to hear about?
Love those notifications!! Comment Fer YT algorithm.
Great video, only note is the singlehanded mac is not run by the Chicago Yacht Club, it is a separate event that runs in June every year put on by the Great Lakes Singlehanded Society
What you say makes sense. Otherwise, single handing amidst the confusion, would not be good.
Maybe I missed it but what was the "hiking wing" supposed to do? It looked like they had hinges to raise them up.
A place for the crew to put their weight and push more sail into the wind.
How about an overview and history of sharpies?
Video idea: the most famous sailor survivor stories
Alice Cooper : Well, I'm a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers were coming here as early as the late 1600s to trade with the Native Americans. Pete : In fact, isn't "Milwaukee" an Indian name? Alice Cooper : Yes, Pete, it is.Actually, it's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
You are awesome
We're not worthy. We're not worthy! LOL
Tim are you related to fellow youtuber Grant Navarre? He's your doppelganger for sure.
Got a story about explosion in Halifax?
We doing this race next year? I am in!
What about the Tti-State Race?
Friday night to St. Joe, Sunday to MC, Monday back to Chicago.
From the photo in the video looks to me that the ‘Wingnut’ lost the bulb off their keel? If this was the case, any boat would have turtled no matter the design. But I have no other info, so easily could be wrong.
I sailed the race when Turner brought Tenacious. He never came back.
That was 1970. Before, he said "it's a mill pond". After, he said "that ain't no mill pond".
When is the next story
People don’t get it because of true up charges. At our old house solar cost us more
Square waves
Explain.
@JamieSmith-fz2mz the waves in the great Lakes are steep as compared to rhythmic rolling waves in the ocean. That's because the great lakes are shallow & the energy is forced upward
@@Johnsouthshore Thanks. I'm working on a book on Great Lakes sailing, and wave descriptions are a challenge because I haven't been on the oceans except to surf.
Why do you keep calling the original two boats 'sloops'?
A sloop is a specific type of sailboat that has a single mast with a single headsail and a fore-and-aft mainsail. That’s the type of boat that he was referring to.
"Oooooh! You have a woman's hand, milord! I'll wager these dainty pinkies never weighed anchor in a storm."
Silly stuff for the mighty Algorithm.
Theere is no'single hand' division in this race.
What does someone's gender or race have to do with sailing?
1998 Sydney to Hobart race. A shocker and a tragedy.
One day I'd like to comw.up.the Erie sail the Great lakes.
I guess fresh water sailing just has the stigma of being "domestic".