That's my load for prairie dogs. I'm shooting a Savage 12 VLP and I got my boys both Savage 12 FVs. 26 inch barrels on all. I am loading a bit hotter than you and am easily getting 3925 out of all 3 rifles using Lee's reloading info. I have the Hornady manual and they're listed loads are a full grain less. Your groups are great. Maybe try bumping up a few grains. My experience with Varget is that it likes to be loaded heavier. Keep up the great work and thanks!
Varget has been a staple powder for many folks. I am new to the use of it. So far, the lower velocities in my rifles do not reflect what is listed in the manuals (usually 100fps slower.) That alone tends to make me try other powders that are closer to loads where velocities match. Thanks for watching.
I have the EXACT same rifle! 1965 BDL with 24" barrel. I installed a Hogue rubberized stock to preserve the integrity of the original. New subscriber, have a great weekend
In the mid 1970's I lived in southern California when you could still hunt and own firearms. Two of my friends and I would ride dirt bikes into the desert and call coyotes in for easy shooting with my 22-250. Thanks for your video and good shooting with your load development.
I had a 22-250 built back in the late 80's with a VZ 24 Mauser 98 action by a very talented gunsmith. He never reached fame his expertise was pistols and repairs more than custom end to end builds. He was a shooting instructor for The Texas Highway Patrol as well as a Deputy Sheriff and also was an armorer for a private security group where he got certification from several firearms manufacturers at their armorer courses even full auto Beretta and others. When he was putting my 22-250 together he worked for the DEA in their blimp program at night and had a shop at his home in the town I lived. The rifle he put together for me started out in military form, he bent the bolt, checkered the handle and trued it to the action then fit a Shilen 1:14 twist 26" barrel to it. He ordered a semi inletted Fajen walnut stock for it, fit the action and did a beautiful oil finish and glass bedding. It has a Niedner steel buttplate and Dayton Traister trigger and safety he also added. The bottom metal was totally reshaped and he made a push button floorplate release as well. To make it feed he altered the follower and magazine box for the shorter 22-250 round. I anxiously waited for it most of a year he worked on it when he could and it was worth the wait. I made a good friend in that year visiting with him weekly. I shot it a little when I took it from him mostly Hornady Factory 55 grain V Max loads at a range I belonged to. I had a four power Charles Daly scope on it that's all I could afford at the time I shot out to 200 yards at clay pigeons I would pick up at the skeet range. I don't think I ever shot a three shot group over an inch with it with factory ammunition I had a friend load me some 55 grain Hornady spire points and they shot fair also. I took it hunting one time in South Texas and banged it up getting in a tower blind and never hunted with it again. For many years it didn't have a scope on it about three years ago I put a new Vortex scope on it and sighted it in with some old ammunition and it was just like I left it, all groups inside an inch. I loaded some new Berger 55 grain hollow points with 38 grains of H380 in Lapua brass and shot a couple of groups earlier this year they tightened up a lot from the spire points. I guess it's time to break out the chronograph and build up a load for it now that I have time I was always curious if the speeds were actually what is on the V Max boxes. I believe some of my old rounds are loaded with 4064 maybe some 3031 too. If I could get groups like yours with Varget I would be happy I don't know if I ever tried it for this rifle. Load up some 40 grain I bet you will get the speed you want.
I have been around hand loading for quite some years a very good friend of mine does it so although I never done it myself I decided to invest in a reloading outfit so I try to gain as much knowledge that I can so I appreciate your videos
Really like the 22 250 in the Tikka varmint. Somewhat😢 new to reloading. I have tried h380 and the varget. Best results have been A380 withHornady 50 grain. Love the video. I have the new Garmin to check velocity. The thing is if I chase velocity, I might not get the accuracy that I have seen.
As stated, I put a great emphasis on Precision first, that being a balance of internal, external ballistics with hunting bullets and not match bullets for the best one shot, terminal ballistics. For me Accuracy is 1 inch at a hundred yards which allows me to hold dead on for the MPBR of each caliber from 275yds to 375yds. I have found if the precision numbers are not there then the accuracy will not be consistent and repeatable including the first cold bore shot.. I thank you for your comment here.
Love the 22-250, I just bought a 22 arc barrel to put together for a prairie dog hunt this fall. I hope it's as accurate as that rifle of yours. The ballistics w the 62gr eldvt look amazing. Passing the 22-250 at ~300yds. I really enjoy the simplicity and load testing without all the bs. Thank you sir.
I use 36g Varget, with a 50g VMax. Yep. It’s always slower than stated velocity. Shoots damn tight in my Rem 700. You mentioned dead rabbit at 100y. The VMax carries a fairly dynamic impact. If you intend to eat it, you better bring a sack when you go collect it. A square hit, means there will be more than a few pieces to gather.
looks like you got some really good groups, in spite of the wind.. Its plenty fast and varget is temp stable so you know it will be a good performer. id run it
Brilliant marksmanship. You should maybe use this rifle to have a go at the "One MOA all day" challenge launched by Bloke on the Range and Polenar Tactical. The aim of the challenge is to get ten consecutive shots inside 1MOA with a rifle weighing less than 10.5 pounds. I reckon you can do it with this rifle.
Thanks for the suggestion. but my channel is geared more toward the hunter, hand loader and understanding ballistics as they apply to hunting. Thanks for watching.
Great video. thanks for the analysis of your loads.. I skipped the 22-250 although loaded a ton of it.. I go from 223 AI with two different twist, a 9 inch and a 14 inch. to the King 220 Swift. My 220 Swift has a 12 inch twist and shoots 65 Sierra spbt very very well. Hope you are doing well this summer.
Great video. I always enjoy watching your show. Dave, if you want 3800 and above, i know Benchmark & CFE-223 will both get you there easily. Also, Big game and 8208 will as well, but if you really want to high step it try Sta-ball 6.5. Thats a high 3900 easy and ive seen 4000 on a few occasions. Good shootin and i will be looking forward for tyge next one!
Hey Dave. Does your 700 have a standard weight barrel? It's an awesome shooter for sure. I just ordered a new Model 70 Featherweight this morning in 22-250.
I load 40gr Nosler Ballistic Tips with Varget for 4277 fps SD 6 ES 14 out of my 26” 1:12 twist Savage 12 FCV, absolutely devastating and averages in the .2 - .3” range 4 shots at 200 yards
Accurate. impressive. If I didn't have 204 for fox...I'd be tempted to get 22 250..maybe 22 250ai I use ADI 2219...not sure what it's renamed to in USA..but it is a bit faster than 2208..renamed to Varget. I'm happy to be not shooting very very fast loads...less wear n tear...not missing out on much ..ballistically...
❤ me some 22-250! I just wish it wasn't hamstrung with a 14" twist. My H-S Precision gun has trouble with the 60gr Partition, which would be my favorite slug for Texas heart shots on coyotes (all you get sometimes) if I could get it to shoot. I'm thankful my 22-250 AI has a 10" twist, but that's a bench gun not a walk-around. A lot of powders are unobtanium today but Accurate powders are generally found. I'm going to give AA4064 a whirl. It is short cut so might be a better fit than IMR 4064, which is what the test target was shot with that came with my H-S gun. Enduron 4166 is also fantastic. Thanks Dave!
@@DonaldPike Agree if working for precision load work. For hunting where usually only the first shot is taken, maybe two shots, then speed (flat trajectory), energy on target and bullet terminal performance on game are important for my needs. But I understand that target shooters place a premium on tight groups, therefore Terminal Ballistics has no priority. Thanks for the chance to explain further here.
Finding the best bullet for wind drift in these lighter varmint bullets has been interesting...I've found with 17rem and 204..that the heavier pills, 25gn 17rem and 40gn 204...are best for wind and practically the same with trajectory...slower..but the higher BC seems to make up for that .
For me speed (less time of flight to the target) therefore less time for environmental influence on bullet drift, negates the higher BC bullet at ranges less than 400 yards. I cannot comment on the 17rem or the 204 Ruger as I don't own them and have no experience with them. Thanks for adding your experiences to the comments here.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I did appreciate less wind drift per higher speeds...but...found with 20gn 17rem...the wind drift at 200 yards was remarkable! The speed did not help this light pill buck the wind at all....extreme example...for sure...this experience got me appreciating heavier bullets with higher BC...that were very similar in trajectory... I found that wind calls, wind drift ...were becoming alot more important...as the remaining foxes were getting further and further away..
Over the years of hand loading my most accurate loads were not always near the max velocity of the cartridge. It is disappointing to have a 22-250 most accurate loads to be about the same velocity as a hot loaded 223. I have a Hart barreled 220 swift Remington . Maximum loads are it's most accurate loads. 3/8 inch 5 shot groups more often than not. It loves IMR 4895 and 55gr Noser ballistic tips. .The down side is slight flattening and cratering of primers. That means shooting in hot weather can give pressure spikes over safe limits, shorter case and barrel life . Im a fan of the 220 Swift over the 22-250. I know of a few accuracy gunsmith that claim rifes they built in 220 swift were more accurate than rifles they made in 22-250. One them lived in Texas. The 220 Swift was his deer rifle.
Dave, considering conditions you were shooting in, I'd say you have an "interesting rifle" lol. Many years ago I had the same rifle/caliber combo and just commercial ammo would do the same thing. Wish I still had it lol (probably said that at least 50 times in the last 25 years lol).
@@hoffpbass every time I watch a gun video !! I've owned at one time most every older rifle I see on YT in my 68 years of shooting. I had a rather large collection of WWI and WWII firearms over the years as well as many, many hunting rifles. I just got tired of them. I'm down to 3 rifles and a shotgun now. Sad, but true lol.
I don't know the answer to tailwind forces. In my experience a very high velocity projectile gets to the less than 300 yard target so fast that the environmentals have little affect.
That's my load for prairie dogs. I'm shooting a Savage 12 VLP and I got my boys both Savage 12 FVs. 26 inch barrels on all. I am loading a bit hotter than you and am easily getting 3925 out of all 3 rifles using Lee's reloading info. I have the Hornady manual and they're listed loads are a full grain less. Your groups are great. Maybe try bumping up a few grains. My experience with Varget is that it likes to be loaded heavier. Keep up the great work and thanks!
Varget has been a staple powder for many folks. I am new to the use of it. So far, the lower velocities in my rifles do not reflect what is listed in the manuals (usually 100fps slower.) That alone tends to make me try other powders that are closer to loads where velocities match. Thanks for watching.
I have the EXACT same rifle! 1965 BDL with 24" barrel. I installed a Hogue rubberized stock to preserve the integrity of the original.
New subscriber, have a great weekend
Thanks for the Sub. and for watching.
In the mid 1970's I lived in southern California when you could still hunt and own firearms. Two of my friends and I would ride dirt bikes into the desert and call coyotes in for easy shooting with my 22-250. Thanks for your video and good shooting with your load development.
The 70's were shinning times almost everywhere.
Gorgeous rifle, Dave. Its accuracy makes it that much more gorgeous.
Thanks for your commenting here and for watching.
I had a 22-250 built back in the late 80's with a VZ 24 Mauser 98 action by a very talented gunsmith. He never reached fame his expertise was pistols and repairs more than custom end to end builds. He was a shooting instructor for The Texas Highway Patrol as well as a Deputy Sheriff and also was an armorer for a private security group where he got certification from several firearms manufacturers at their armorer courses even full auto Beretta and others. When he was putting my 22-250 together he worked for the DEA in their blimp program at night and had a shop at his home in the town I lived. The rifle he put together for me started out in military form, he bent the bolt, checkered the handle and trued it to the action then fit a Shilen 1:14 twist 26" barrel to it. He ordered a semi inletted Fajen walnut stock for it, fit the action and did a beautiful oil finish and glass bedding. It has a Niedner steel buttplate and Dayton Traister trigger and safety he also added. The bottom metal was totally reshaped and he made a push button floorplate release as well. To make it feed he altered the follower and magazine box for the shorter 22-250 round. I anxiously waited for it most of a year he worked on it when he could and it was worth the wait. I made a good friend in that year visiting with him weekly. I shot it a little when I took it from him mostly Hornady Factory 55 grain V Max loads at a range I belonged to. I had a four power Charles Daly scope on it that's all I could afford at the time I shot out to 200 yards at clay pigeons I would pick up at the skeet range. I don't think I ever shot a three shot group over an inch with it with factory ammunition I had a friend load me some 55 grain Hornady spire points and they shot fair also. I took it hunting one time in South Texas and banged it up getting in a tower blind and never hunted with it again. For many years it didn't have a scope on it about three years ago I put a new Vortex scope on it and sighted it in with some old ammunition and it was just like I left it, all groups inside an inch. I loaded some new Berger 55 grain hollow points with 38 grains of H380 in Lapua brass and shot a couple of groups earlier this year they tightened up a lot from the spire points. I guess it's time to break out the chronograph and build up a load for it now that I have time I was always curious if the speeds were actually what is on the V Max boxes. I believe some of my old rounds are loaded with 4064 maybe some 3031 too. If I could get groups like yours with Varget I would be happy I don't know if I ever tried it for this rifle. Load up some 40 grain I bet you will get the speed you want.
Thanks for relaying your story here and for watching.
I run 55gr berger bullets an varget powder extremely accurate its one of my coyote rigs
I have been around hand loading for quite some years a very good friend of mine does it so although I never done it myself I decided to invest in a reloading outfit so I try to gain as much knowledge that I can so I appreciate your videos
Best wishes for your handloading endeavors.
What a tack driver. Excellent accuracy brother 👍
Thanks Rick. Good luck with your Sept. Hunt.
Very informative video
Thank you
Thanks for watching
Great video as always Dave! I love the 22-250 for prairie dogs and coyotes. Have a great day!
Thanks for watching and the kind words here.
I enjoy watching and learning from you my friend
Thanks for your kind words here and for watching.
I have a 22-250 in Howa 1500 varmint 1:12 twist... shoots almost any 50gn to 60gn bullets great, especially the 53gn v-max.
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
Really like the 22 250 in the Tikka varmint. Somewhat😢 new to reloading. I have tried h380 and the varget. Best results have been A380 withHornady 50 grain. Love the video. I have the new Garmin to check velocity. The thing is if I chase velocity, I might not get the accuracy that I have seen.
As stated, I put a great emphasis on Precision first, that being a balance of internal, external ballistics with hunting bullets and not match bullets for the best one shot, terminal ballistics. For me Accuracy is 1 inch at a hundred yards which allows me to hold dead on for the MPBR of each caliber from 275yds to 375yds. I have found if the precision numbers are not there then the accuracy will not be consistent and repeatable including the first cold bore shot.. I thank you for your comment here.
I've played with the 55gn and the 50gn. My rifle has achieved the best groups with the 53gn V-max.
Love the 22-250, I just bought a 22 arc barrel to put together for a prairie dog hunt this fall. I hope it's as accurate as that rifle of yours. The ballistics w the 62gr eldvt look amazing. Passing the 22-250 at ~300yds.
I really enjoy the simplicity and load testing without all the bs.
Thank you sir.
The 22 ARC sounds intriguing indeed. I hope it will work as good as the 6mm ARC.
It’s something I have kicked around for years thank you sir 👍keep the videos coming
Thanks, will do!
I love the 22-250 I have a 25-06 in that same gun you are using in the 700 Remington 700 bdl great video my friend
Thanks for watching and the kind words also.
Finally someone who has the correct combination!
I use 36g Varget, with a 50g VMax. Yep. It’s always slower than stated velocity.
Shoots damn tight in my Rem 700.
You mentioned dead rabbit at 100y.
The VMax carries a fairly dynamic impact.
If you intend to eat it, you better bring a sack when you go collect it.
A square hit, means there will be more than a few pieces to gather.
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looks like you got some really good groups, in spite of the wind.. Its plenty fast and varget is temp stable so you know it will be a good performer. id run it
Certainly works well in a few other rifle calibers also. Thanks for watching.
Saw that wind blowing.
Brilliant marksmanship. You should maybe use this rifle to have a go at the "One MOA all day" challenge launched by Bloke on the Range and Polenar Tactical. The aim of the challenge is to get ten consecutive shots inside 1MOA with a rifle weighing less than 10.5 pounds. I reckon you can do it with this rifle.
Thanks for the suggestion. but my channel is geared more toward the hunter, hand loader and understanding ballistics as they apply to hunting. Thanks for watching.
Great video. thanks for the analysis of your loads.. I skipped the 22-250 although loaded a ton of it.. I go from 223 AI with two different twist, a 9 inch and a 14 inch. to the King 220 Swift. My 220 Swift has a 12 inch twist and shoots 65 Sierra spbt very very well.
Hope you are doing well this summer.
Yes, sounds like you are well covered for Varmints indeed.
Great video. I always enjoy watching your show. Dave, if you want 3800 and above, i know Benchmark & CFE-223 will both get you there easily. Also, Big game and 8208 will as well, but if you really want to high step it try Sta-ball 6.5. Thats a high 3900 easy and ive seen 4000 on a few occasions. Good shootin and i will be looking forward for tyge next one!
Thanks for the suggestions. My 22-250's inherent accuracy makes load development pretty easy and therefore also makes me lazy.
Hey Dave. Does your 700 have a standard weight barrel? It's an awesome shooter for sure. I just ordered a new Model 70 Featherweight this morning in 22-250.
Yes it is standard and has the typical Remington taper.
I have 1965 700 bdl in 22-250 my favorite coyote rig
Thanks for watching and commenting here.
A guy has to love the 22-250. I havent found an inaccurate one yet
Agree, Thanks for watching.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 thank you for the video
Ditto.
I load 40gr Nosler Ballistic Tips with Varget for 4277 fps SD 6 ES 14 out of my 26” 1:12 twist Savage 12 FCV, absolutely devastating and averages in the .2 - .3” range 4 shots at 200 yards
That is fast! Thanks for your comment here.
Accurate. impressive.
If I didn't have 204 for fox...I'd be tempted to get 22 250..maybe 22 250ai
I use ADI 2219...not sure what it's renamed to in USA..but it is a bit faster than 2208..renamed to Varget.
I'm happy to be not shooting very very fast loads...less wear n tear...not missing out on much ..ballistically...
Thanks for watching and for your comment here.
Yep, Varget is usually good SD's but lower velocities. AR-Comp might work good in the cartridge.
Aliant powders seem to be "Non existent" these days. That is unfortunate because I use allot of Reloder powders.
Getting ready to do some reloading for my newish 22-250.. i have and like Varget, and those groups look great. I don't need the extra 200 fps ;)
I do like speed for extended range shots that allow you to have a "Truer MPBR," therefore a greater chance of success during a one shot hunt.
❤ me some 22-250! I just wish it wasn't hamstrung with a 14" twist. My H-S Precision gun has trouble with the 60gr Partition, which would be my favorite slug for Texas heart shots on coyotes (all you get sometimes) if I could get it to shoot. I'm thankful my 22-250 AI has a 10" twist, but that's a bench gun not a walk-around. A lot of powders are unobtanium today but Accurate powders are generally found. I'm going to give AA4064 a whirl. It is short cut so might be a better fit than IMR 4064, which is what the test target was shot with that came with my H-S gun. Enduron 4166 is also fantastic. Thanks Dave!
Best wishes on your load development. I think I may re-try H380 and up the anti from my 38 grain load.
Exactly. I wanted a 22-250 in a weatherby vanguard but it has a 1:14" twist. Went with a Howa 1500 1:12" twist. Has a 22 inch barrel, wish it was 24.
Good groups
Thanks for watching and for your comment here.
Good grouping loads are better than velocity
@@DonaldPike Agree if working for precision load work. For hunting where usually only the first shot is taken, maybe two shots, then speed (flat trajectory), energy on target and bullet terminal performance on game are important for my needs. But I understand that target shooters place a premium on tight groups, therefore Terminal Ballistics has no priority. Thanks for the chance to explain further here.
Finding the best bullet for wind drift in these lighter varmint bullets has been interesting...I've found with 17rem and 204..that the heavier pills, 25gn 17rem and 40gn 204...are best for wind and practically the same with trajectory...slower..but the higher BC seems to make up for that
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For me speed (less time of flight to the target) therefore less time for environmental influence on bullet drift, negates the higher BC bullet at ranges less than 400 yards. I cannot comment on the 17rem or the 204 Ruger as I don't own them and have no experience with them. Thanks for adding your experiences to the comments here.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I did appreciate less wind drift per higher speeds...but...found with 20gn 17rem...the wind drift at 200 yards was remarkable! The speed did not help this light pill buck the wind at all....extreme example...for sure...this experience got me appreciating heavier bullets with higher BC...that were very similar in trajectory...
I found that wind calls, wind drift ...were becoming alot more important...as the remaining foxes were getting further and further away..
I often ask why would a person have to have only one rifle.
HaHa, Yes, times have changed indeed.
I only have one gun for that specific purpose. I just have "so many purposes"!! Lol
Over the years of hand loading my most accurate loads were not always near the max velocity of the cartridge. It is disappointing to have a 22-250 most accurate loads to be about the same velocity as a hot loaded 223.
I have a Hart barreled 220 swift Remington . Maximum loads are it's most accurate loads. 3/8 inch 5 shot groups more often than not. It loves IMR 4895 and 55gr Noser ballistic tips. .The down side is slight flattening and cratering of primers. That means shooting in hot weather can give pressure spikes over safe limits, shorter case and barrel life . Im a fan of the 220 Swift over the 22-250.
I know of a few accuracy gunsmith that claim rifes they built in 220 swift were more accurate than rifles they made in 22-250. One them lived in Texas. The 220 Swift was his deer rifle.
220 swift is a great cartridge. I hope it makes a comeback.
Varget might be a little slow.But it's one of the best Versatile powders I have that and H4350 my 22-250 likes IMR4064 and varget H380 not as good.
Thanks for your comment here and for watching.
Dave, considering conditions you were shooting in, I'd say you have an "interesting rifle" lol. Many years ago I had the same rifle/caliber combo and just commercial ammo would do the same thing. Wish I still had it lol (probably said that at least 50 times in the last 25 years lol).
22-250 is still King in my humble opinion. Thanks for watching.
And you said it one or more times today, I bet 😅
@@hoffpbass every time I watch a gun video !! I've owned at one time most every older rifle I see on YT in my 68 years of shooting. I had a rather large collection of WWI and WWII firearms over the years as well as many, many hunting rifles. I just got tired of them. I'm down to 3 rifles and a shotgun now. Sad, but true lol.
I like 760 in the 22-250.
Great powder indeed.
Lymans book goes higher in grains of powder than hornady.
Thanks for that information and Thanks for watching.
Well sir, that rifle is accurate, no matter what you run through it. With that light a projectile, does the tailwind force it down any? Thanks.
I don't know the answer to tailwind forces. In my experience a very high velocity projectile gets to the less than 300 yard target so fast that the environmentals have little affect.