HUGE thank you. This was the one part of the game that hadn't clicked yet, and it's nice to have some clarity and a goal to work for. Side note: my account is younger than this video.
I wish we could convince Lilith to remove the Legendary gathering commanders from the gold chests and leave them for events. There are too many now so it reduces your chances of being able to level up them up. Once Richard comes into the chests it will be 11. They also stopped the universals making it tougher still.
Lets be honest, Epic have NO place whatsoever in open field except for maybe joan and sun tzu, but they both have to be behind legendary commander or else everyone is going to focus them
Yeah, and even as a f2p you can surely max some legendaries or level them decently enough to use. I really don't know why people say "f2p commanders" = epics
@@enseadadoscorais2 oh I Did not know that I was kvk and after the lost kingdom finished I was like what a fool I was and lost almost 1 million power but that happened when I was 4 million but after 220,000 dead troops I recovered and now I am a r4 officer in 1 billion power alliance
Constant rallying wont work. You have to take a break from rallying. Then rally after some time. It will increase ur chances. But still the event is worst. It literally forces u to buy the bundle for 5 goldheads
Is there a way to demand them showing us the firework drop rate chance? They need to give honest description because I'm pretty there some kind of mechanic that prevent / lower the drop rate once you get certain amount of firework a day. (diminishing return).
I guess that you can receive only around 36 fireworks per day.. When you reach this mark is like impossible to get another.. Just for you buy bundle.. The rewards from fireworks is good, but if you want the sculptures you will need to spend
I'm free to play- player, at almost 4mil, and Aethelflaed and Joan of Arc are my goto's I love that combo. I also like the Mulan combo. I', also testing out Kusunoki because of his powerful debuffs.
If you want a strong 1v1 march then use Matilda/Boudica against Baibars/Palagius or Sun Tzu/Eulji. If you want to better simulate an effective open field march use Joan Matilda as Joan is someone you want on the field and while her active skill does nothing for siege the support tree has good siege stats.
You forgot athel+ysg. I'm f2p and got ysg to 5111 when it was available. The athel debuffs and ysg does insane damge bc of the debuff. I use it for everything. And I don't have minamoto.
That's not possible, since Aethelflaed skill1 is only 2 seconds. Not to mention the fact that YSG skill 1 has a delay after the skill casting. So no, YSG does not get insane damage because of Aethelflaed.
@@rrrmediodia8383 if you look at the battle reports it actually goes... (Turn 1) Athael: AOE nuke (Turn 2) Athael: debuff second 1 (Turn 3) Athael: bebuff second 2 YSG (or Sun) AOE Nuke
I would love to see a best 5551 legendary list. You already have 5111 and 5511 video but not 5551 yet. I think this topic is important because some 5551 are probably very close to expertise legendary counterpart (Saladin comes to mind) and yet requires a lot less sculptures (390 vs 690 I believe). This can be very helpful for f2p because we probably don't have much gold head to spend, and it helps to know which 5551 is very close to expertise legendary.
I want to use Alex as a secondary to athlfeld primary for now and am going to use all infantry, so should I still follow the same build you suggested for Alex as a primary?
Am i so wrong. I love at ftp gamer tomao gozen as sencond. She brings so much rage. From the talents you get mostly 9 rage per turn. Tomao gives every turn 20 rage. And has benefis below that. The mini bloodlust and extra archer stats , is for me a grear Combo at the moment.she wss cheap to skill out the first 3 skills from keya.
Bro I thought u wanted ftp to focus on only one or two legendaries which are ysg and richard/martel? Now u want us to max Alexander and William too?? Which is it bro ?a bit confused
Wait Can you answer this cause this are my pairing and tell me if its all wrong or if anything is wrong Aetheflaed / Julius caesar Gate Guard or keeper Julius or scipio / Sun tzu Sometimes Sun tzu / ætheflaed And Belasairus / pelagius
I'm playing Germany and built Hermann as my main commander since he was my starter and it's easy to upgrade him, but they give Germany cavalry as their special units. Should I change civilizations or switch commanders?
How is any legendary commander f2p? They say don't put universal's into gold key commanders because you will expertise them eventually. By the time that happens I'll be 80 and lilith will have taken there servers down.
I a bit disagree on lead with Joan. Although leading with Joan will get good rage engine, she will die in 10 sec after enter the fields. For f2p trust me getting kill in few seconds is not fun My first choice will be lead with Sun tzu and bring Joan as second. Then change to lead with Richard 5511 later on.
I sent Joan of Arc in first on a AOO obelisk raid that I thought was not occupied. She died in 2 seconds. Fortunately, my other armies took the guy out, but she definitely can’t attack a structure.
Joan in early game as primary? She is the best farming. Stupid suggestion for f2p not use joan for farming. The most important thing ; Gathering talent 37 superior tool for joan when her skil 5511. Forget your medicine?
Hey chisgule love the vids.. so I’m wondering where I can place my rich for my 2kvk I have rich 5-5-1-1 but there’s gonna be Alex everywhere so his skill will be useless I have Alex 5-1 Aethal expertise ysg 5-2 and all epics expertise I’m just trying to figure out best options for open field.? Need some help..
I don’t like how the video name is “top 6 f2p epic commanders” yet most of these pairings are legendarios, love the content and I find your videos really valuable but try to use more honest titles
Cavs by themselfs aren't faster than any other unit... He's probably still didn't saw the changes and updates that occured along the years (that's why sponsered content only give you the sale speach ) Yeah should actually see an in-depth analysis on the change to the buffs multipliers, wasn't a bad thing Just made it balanced for the introduction of equipments, still no video referring to that.
So to recap: Best open field f2p commanders 6)Joan of Arc with a)Boudica, b)Sun Tzu, c)Pelagius, 5)Belisarius/Baibars, 4)Herman/El Cid, 3)Æthelflæd with a)Alexander the Great, b)Mulan, c)Joan of Arc, d)Sun Tzu, 2)Alexander the Great with a)Mulan, b)Joan of Arc c)Sun Tzu and finally 1)William I with a)Alexander the Great, b)Mulan, c)Joan of Arc and d)Sun Tzu.
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HUGE thank you. This was the one part of the game that hadn't clicked yet, and it's nice to have some clarity and a goal to work for. Side note: my account is younger than this video.
When you are so early that you dont know what to comment to get a heart from the legend
Whether it be chisgule for shinchi42
Tell me only 2 best Epic commander , i will upgrade first please guide me.
@@zulfqaralisarmad3309 Boudica and Sun Tzu
YES HE DID IT
I wish we could convince Lilith to remove the Legendary gathering commanders from the gold chests and leave them for events. There are too many now so it reduces your chances of being able to level up them up. Once Richard comes into the chests it will be 11. They also stopped the universals making it tougher still.
It’s a ploy so that you spend money get trash then want to spend more money to get something specific
Lets be honest, Epic have NO place whatsoever in open field except for maybe joan and sun tzu, but they both have to be behind legendary commander or else everyone is going to focus them
Hermann + El Cid to support against Richard+Martel works well too
True
Yeah, and even as a f2p you can surely max some legendaries or level them decently enough to use. I really don't know why people say "f2p commanders" = epics
@acefjom Gather hunting? Oh I forgot that was a thing... Coming from a player in LvD
@acefjom because in light vs darkness passes are sealed so they don't have acess to that zone
Conclusion: joan-suntzu/boudica, belisarius-baibars, herman-el cid, aethefled-mulan/joan/suntzu, alex-mulan/joan/suntzu, william-alex/mulan/joan/suntzu
Your a good man, thank you
Im curious im a scripos Africancanus main ehat is the best combo
No pelagius?
Hi Chisgule, thank you for this guide, I am f2p and 4,5 million power and I needed this
7.7 million without spending
@@shawnsubin-ssp8860 now I'm 5.5 bcs there were two wars lol
What is bcs
@@shawnsubin-ssp8860 because
@@enseadadoscorais2 oh I Did not know that I was kvk and after the lost kingdom finished I was like what a fool I was and lost almost 1 million power but that happened when I was 4 million but after 220,000 dead troops I recovered and now I am a r4 officer in 1 billion power alliance
Chisgul: Early game like 4m power
Me at 80k: Ah seems like i missed my stop
Me: early game like L6 City hall or lower
I have 7.7 million power without spending even 1 dollar
@@shawnsubin-ssp8860 i have with my alt and main
@@hudortunnel9784 Update here 20 million power here
@@shawnsubin-ssp8860 same same with two alts below 20 and in an academy
To be honest, I only realized now how absolute of a beast Alex is
Belasarius was the mvp of our kvk. So many farm busters from other kingdom we couldn’t gather n it really hurt us
The most underrated ROK content creator.
Thank you for nice video. I like a Way how you explian things Chisgule 😎
Firework festival is way worst. For 25 rally,0 fireworks.This is a new way for Lilith to get people spend money.
Constant rallying wont work. You have to take a break from rallying. Then rally after some time. It will increase ur chances. But still the event is worst. It literally forces u to buy the bundle for 5 goldheads
Ikr fk that event
Is there a way to demand them showing us the firework drop rate chance? They need to give honest description because I'm pretty there some kind of mechanic that prevent / lower the drop rate once you get certain amount of firework a day. (diminishing return).
I guess that you can receive only around 36 fireworks per day.. When you reach this mark is like impossible to get another.. Just for you buy bundle.. The rewards from fireworks is good, but if you want the sculptures you will need to spend
using your resources to buy items from courier shop is the best way to drop the fireworks
Thank you Chisgule i was gone for around 8 months and i an getting back into the game im around 11m power and im F2P and this is exactly what i need.
11m and f2p? You spent no money at all?
yo thank you chisgule! Love ur vids bro u help us f2p a lot with these vids thanks bro!
Heyy chis, may u make a vid off equipments for all commanders such as integration, leadership and othere. Thx
This is very helpful With this vid I'm proud to be f2p player❤️ Love you man
Chisguile videos is the best no bring up chair ..just pure helpful FYI for the gamers
I watched so many people no one gave me what i wanted until this video Thank you 🙏
I'm free to play- player, at almost 4mil, and Aethelflaed and Joan of Arc are my goto's I love that combo. I also like the Mulan combo. I', also testing out Kusunoki because of his powerful debuffs.
I love you sir!your a legend!
Please do some testing with Matilda, she's actually really good with a full siege march.
Then test it yourself.
If you want a strong 1v1 march then use Matilda/Boudica against Baibars/Palagius or Sun Tzu/Eulji. If you want to better simulate an effective open field march use Joan Matilda as Joan is someone you want on the field and while her active skill does nothing for siege the support tree has good siege stats.
@acefjom chisgule already made a video about it check it out
For F2p you are forgetting commanders like Gengish Khan for full nuking, excellent paired either with pelagius/CC/Osman/Aethel/baibars/Sun tzu
Ironside as well
what about YSG that you talk about every single video
Should be top 7
Minimoto and Richard I are a great Legendary open field pair. Going crazy on Marauders
Obrigado pelo vídeo/ thanks for the video brow👏👏✌️
As an f2p player i dont recommend having more than 3 marches in field bcs low-mid spenders and t5s will take care of the enemy.
@@tepmurckcin188 altho you’re right but i’d like some more kills :))
Hang on, I thought only the primary skill of the secondary commander fired off when attacking another player or city.
whenever you attack anything both commanders use all their skills
You forgot athel+ysg. I'm f2p and got ysg to 5111 when it was available. The athel debuffs and ysg does insane damge bc of the debuff. I use it for everything. And I don't have minamoto.
That's not possible, since Aethelflaed skill1 is only 2 seconds. Not to mention the fact that YSG skill 1 has a delay after the skill casting. So no, YSG does not get insane damage because of Aethelflaed.
@@rrrmediodia8383 i do it. I tested it so i know. Try it.
Try Suntzu with ysg second insaneee aoe
@@rrrmediodia8383 if you look at the battle reports it actually goes...
(Turn 1) Athael: AOE nuke
(Turn 2) Athael: debuff second 1
(Turn 3) Athael: bebuff second 2
YSG (or Sun) AOE Nuke
I needed this. New player :)
O guess Im in deep trouble for playing Japan civilization and upgrading Musonoki.
Still think we should get a Mary, queen of Scots commander
My uncle showed me you, he said he played with you before while you weren’t streaming he’s part of mg3, and mg4
I would love to see a best 5551 legendary list. You already have 5111 and 5511 video but not 5551 yet. I think this topic is important because some 5551 are probably very close to expertise legendary counterpart (Saladin comes to mind) and yet requires a lot less sculptures (390 vs 690 I believe). This can be very helpful for f2p because we probably don't have much gold head to spend, and it helps to know which 5551 is very close to expertise legendary.
So troops do not get the talent tree effects of second commander? Just the skills of second commander?
Correct. 2nd commanders gear doesn't matter either. ONLY the second commanders skills come into play.
@@DrWarcloud36 my guy 💪🏽
Mathilda primary is a death sentence for Beli Bai. Tried it in my kvk
I want to use Alex as a secondary to athlfeld primary for now and am going to use all infantry, so should I still follow the same build you suggested for Alex as a primary?
Expedition 2020 guide please with them mile Stones
it's funny that all of the marches u suggested will just provide buffs/debuffs and close to no damage
Sun tzu??
Almost 100k subs 😃😃
Should I compete on training more troops event for gold heads and epic?
Hey love the video is there a way to get commanders that you miss on the Wheel of Fortune
Chisgule what are your thoughts on Sun Tzu Joan, or Boudica Joan?
4:00 the third skill only works if he is primary
Am i so wrong. I love at ftp gamer tomao gozen as sencond. She brings so much rage. From the talents you get mostly 9 rage per turn. Tomao gives every turn 20 rage. And has benefis below that. The mini bloodlust and extra archer stats , is for me a grear Combo at the moment.she wss cheap to skill out the first 3 skills from keya.
Bro I thought u wanted ftp to focus on only one or two legendaries which are ysg and richard/martel?
Now u want us to max Alexander and William too??
Which is it bro ?a bit confused
At what level is Alex better than sun tzu
I wonder if the first skill from Boudica. rage reduction 100 is affected by the number of soldiers as well as skill damage...
Chisgule you have forgotten Richard I
I have been playing ROK for 2 days as a f2p . I got 210K might and got Julius caesar ( 2 star) . Is it a good commander ?
As a f2P u shouldn't focus on him.
Is Sun tzu Primary and Charles in early game good?
Amazing ty
hey chisgule i have a question, my ysg is 5511 should i max him out or make my alex 5511 first?
also nice video as always. it helps us a lot.
Wait Can you answer this cause this are my pairing and tell me if its all wrong or if anything is wrong
Aetheflaed / Julius caesar
Gate Guard or keeper
Julius or scipio / Sun tzu
Sometimes
Sun tzu / ætheflaed
And
Belasairus / pelagius
Chisgule you forgot
Sun Tzu paired with Richard in early games for F2P pairings
Kusunoki and Aethel too AOE archer march.
I like using Aethel+YSG instead of Kussonki
@@TheOneAndOnlyLibertyPrime kusunoki his active skill is better to remove all debuffs every active skill
@@TheOneAndOnlyLibertyPrime i guess Aoe debuffs
@@thorodinson9511 Yeah, but YSG skill damage is way better.
@@TheOneAndOnlyLibertyPrime this is old and yes youre right
We didn't see your sun Tzu talent
what about Takeda for f2p ?
should we focus on him or just pass on it
Wheres YSG chisgule? Do you still recommend YSG?
idk why chis u didnt include richard... he is good... been watching ur live streams and in my kd and many still use him
My Notification Bell failed meee...!!!!!
How can I get Joan I have Boudicca and sun tzu should I use them as a pair or not? And if so which leads?
Do I still want a max Boudica when I have a max Mina?
You didn't take about YSG
Good stuff!
Joan of Ark wont leave my castle when i try and get her to go and attack barbs she wont show up on my list does this happen for anyone else ??
Mars boy here 😎 I'm going to go infantry💪
Ysg 5111 vs khan 5111, khan's better/stronger right? I want to pair them with osman for high damage
Alexander the great, Mulan, William the conqueror are categorized as f2p? Doubt that but ok ig ._.
I'm playing Germany and built Hermann as my main commander since he was my starter and it's easy to upgrade him, but they give Germany cavalry as their special units. Should I change civilizations or switch commanders?
I’m F2P with 14.5M power at KD1954, We doing our first kvk!!! 🤩
how do you know which talents to improve ?!
How about suntzu primary and joan secondary?
Tell me only 2 best Epic commander , i will upgrade first please guide me.
Sun Tzu and Belisarius in my opinion. Sun is definitely the best. I like Belisarius and Eujli Mundeok also, he hits like a truck.
How is any legendary commander f2p? They say don't put universal's into gold key commanders because you will expertise them eventually. By the time that happens I'll be 80 and lilith will have taken there servers down.
I a bit disagree on lead with Joan. Although leading with Joan will get good rage engine, she will die in 10 sec after enter the fields. For f2p trust me getting kill in few seconds is not fun
My first choice will be lead with Sun tzu and bring Joan as second. Then change to lead with Richard 5511 later on.
You are right. And also you can lose Joan as a gatherer if you a f2p
I sent Joan of Arc in first on a AOO obelisk raid that I thought was not occupied. She died in 2 seconds. Fortunately, my other armies took the guy out, but she definitely can’t attack a structure.
Joan in early game as primary? She is the best farming. Stupid suggestion for f2p not use joan for farming. The most important thing ; Gathering talent 37 superior tool for joan when her skil 5511. Forget your medicine?
is mulan viable bc i don’t have many legendarys
I have 1.300.000 of power, and i dont have alexander, william, mulan, etc, i only have Aethelflaed (Of the legendarys) what can i do?
is aethel ysg not great aswell mainly for canyon /
Hey chisgule love the vids.. so I’m wondering where I can place my rich for my 2kvk I have rich 5-5-1-1 but there’s gonna be Alex everywhere so his skill will be useless I have Alex 5-1 Aethal expertise ysg 5-2 and all epics expertise I’m just trying to figure out best options for open field.? Need some help..
I got mulan on my second day of playing and I don't know what to do with it
how you get yi s-g ?
chisgule : number 5
also chisgule : show 6 fingers
got my takeda today with gems that I had farmed in just 5 spins
does talent of secondary commander is in effect?
Only primary
I don’t like how the video name is “top 6 f2p epic commanders” yet most of these pairings are legendarios, love the content and I find your videos really valuable but try to use more honest titles
mate i maxed out my Scipio, is that fine
ngl i skipped to 10:50 just so i can hear how her name is pronounced
he pronounced it Æfuhfled lol
So If I am a free to play player , so should I unlock YSG when it's available or wait till Alexander the great ??? I am very confued
Get ysg
What about YSG?
YSG and ALEX is not good?
I got Aethelflaed in my first golden chest, am I lucky?
you lost me at number 5 and you put 6 fingers up lol 5:05
I am in s-po and I just migrated and I have alot of question of the rules of 1075 plz reply with rules chis
OOOOH, almost to 100K subs.
Richard/Alex is where to go!!!!!
Cavs by themselfs aren't faster than any other unit... He's probably still didn't saw the changes and updates that occured along the years (that's why sponsered content only give you the sale speach ) Yeah should actually see an in-depth analysis on the change to the buffs multipliers, wasn't a bad thing Just made it balanced for the introduction of equipments, still no video referring to that.
Awesome
I paired sun and Joan and lost vs euji and Richard
Hey guys
Should I use Caesar and queen tamar of Georgia or career and scipio
So to recap: Best open field f2p commanders 6)Joan of Arc with a)Boudica, b)Sun Tzu, c)Pelagius, 5)Belisarius/Baibars, 4)Herman/El Cid, 3)Æthelflæd with a)Alexander the Great, b)Mulan, c)Joan of Arc, d)Sun Tzu, 2)Alexander the Great with a)Mulan, b)Joan of Arc c)Sun Tzu and finally 1)William I with a)Alexander the Great, b)Mulan, c)Joan of Arc and d)Sun Tzu.
Yep
Im 300k power and it helped
Thank you