wow, this song is way more interesting then it seems at first, the time signature, rhythm, and difficult chords really show how talented elliott was. thanks so much for this detailed lesson. almost have it down but the chorus is tricky
nah they are easier, as the transition and timing along with bizarree chords is what makes this sneakily difficult. rnb and jazz chords are difficult too, but this is just ugh, very tricky. @@DanielAlvarez-oq8ex
I came here right after learning from your lesson on Angeles and just want to say thank you. Elliot has been playing in the back of my head for about 20 years now Angeles for me was a mountain I couldn’t conquer the first time I tried so I have a real reverence for it and really just for him as a player. After taking some fingerstyle lessons, a few years of practice, i decided to give it another shot and saw you had a tutorial. I’ve been following you for years and am a big fan so knew I’d have everything I’d need to try again. After about 3 practice sessions, I’m about 75% of the way to playing it up to speed and confident I’ll be at about 90% eventually very soon. So thank you. One of my favorites songs, from one of my favorite songwriters, and you, sir, are officially now one of my favorite teachers. I appreciate your energy and you are an absolute natural teacher- to be gifted that way is rare. I work in education and consult with teachers so have some experience- to teach expertly but also with humility, and with attention to the learner the way that you do is what I myself aspire to in my own work, it’s also exactly the way I would advise anyone else to do it. Keep your same energy, man, never lose it. And again thank you. Knowing how to play angeles is a gift you gave me for free (and now also between the bars as well!). We don’t really know each other but please know you really helped this stranger. I’m not sure how to properly thank you or if I even deserve it. ✌️
thank you so much for playing the song first before starting the tutorial!! Alot of tutorials on youtube fail to do that which is really annoying. You're tutorials are the best.
I'm about 5 years into my guitar Journey. You Justin are an excellent teacher your videos are clear, concise, well-spoken. Thank you for the couple years of guitar lessons you've given me. I started at age 41 I'm Now 46. I learned the basics using PlayStation Guitar Smith & that allowed me to follow along with your lessons thank you.🎸🎸🎸🤟🤟
This popped up in my feed today randomly, and I just wanted to say what a beautiful performance at the beginning. Looking forward to learning it for myself.
Justin, I've spent so many nights playing guitar and jamming with you, since the beginnig of your channel, you don't even know. Tonight Elliott Smith is playing through us. Thank you so much much for just being. Cheers. Fab
Great job on the cover! I'm literally picking up and trying to teach myself guitar, this is the first song I wanted to learn. Only 2 days in but going to practice this nonstop. Thanks for your help
It's soooo hard to find good tutorials for guys like Elliott; extremely frustrating for newer guitarists who haven't gotten to the point where they can really make out chords or individual notes easily yet. Thanks for the tutorial, always wanted to learn this song.
@@seanmcgrath1616 Hey! I still play, admittedly I haven't been practicing much for the past year or so but I do still pick it up from time to time. I was given a piece of advice shortly after I started learning--motivation comes and goes but just keep playing when you can. Definitely has been true for me. I still enjoy the guitar but I just accept that I'm probably not gonna be that guy that can solo for hours or play 50 different covers accurately. I'm happy with my playing and still enjoy it when I pick it up. These days I mostly play blues/folky songs and practice scales a bit.
I've always liked your channel. If it weren't you I probably wouldn't be playing guitar now. That you like elliott Smith, and seems to be a real fan, is a cherry on top. What a song writer.
Love this lesson - thankyou! If the weird chord progression over "...don't want around anymore" put's you off, you can totally play F, G, Am and it still works. If I was open micing this song that bit would be my Achilles heel, so I'd go for the simple way and nobody would notice.
Great job Justin. Elliott was in a league of his own. So gifted yet it was not enough to keep him here on earth. I find this song extremely sad. So sad I do not want to play it. Thank you for the tip on tuning down with a capo.
Sorry mate, just heard your whole stp lower tuning at 3:47. Thanks! I was playing it by using a capo at 3rd fret (open Gm) and transposing the other chords but did see the ES video and you play it like him.
Perfect tutorial! Thanks, Justin. I used your videos to learn electric when I was in middle school, and my music taste has evolved a ton since then, so it was super nostalgic for me to find this video from you :) Hope you're well!
I found this song and a few others of his thanks to you! It's funny that I used the same lyric myself in a piece that I wrote. The cycle of depression and drinking, makes you feel that you're trapped between the bars so to speak. Looking out, always observing and feeling like a prisoner, a slave to the system. Good job
About that chord at 8:00 (what you labeled as Ab6 or Fm with an Ab bass): as an almost classically trained musician, this is an F minor chord in first inversion. There’s a descending bass note pattern in that passage from Ab back to F (chromatically too!)
The chords actually go into eachother really well if you use the right fingers, for example when going from the c shape to the one with a B base instead of bringing up your middle finger slide your ring finger down a fret and then just pick up your middle finger, that way you can easily transition to an E by just simply putting your pinky and middle finger on the frets they’re already sitting on, making it even easier to transition to F by just moving your 234 E shape up a fret and baring your index finger.
I know this is from quite some time ago, but on that funky F#/Am, I just make it easier by starting with the Am and thumbing(or middle fingering) the F# bass on 2nd half to walk down to the F. Its easier, and adds a layer of complexity that’s actually in line with the melody of the song.
Thanks, Justin. I've been following your lessons on and off for a few years. I find them to be the easiest to follow that I've seen, and I greatly appreciate it. Elliott Smith is one of my favorites! Very grateful for your lessons and including some of his work. Although there probably isn't much of an interest or demand for it, have you ever considered a lesson on Ben Howard? (Mainly the song Gracious.) Anyways, I just wanted to say thank you. I hope you have a great holiday!
Hey Justin. Thanks so much for posting this. I tried to learn it ages ago from the "kitchen" video you mention and really struggled with the strum pattern, incorporated bass notes and working out the exact chords. Bought a new acoustic yesterday after a long while without playing and was pretty intimidated by the idea of playing this when I found your video. But a couple of hours and I've got the general shape of it down pat. Just need to practice and polish now. Thanks so much!
I learned to play this song thanks to this video. It was really helpfull to have each chord described in detail and played slowly. Thanks! I've adjusted to play a small variation from you at the chorus at: "...you've been before, that you...", I strum the chord every time I vary the bass tone, like Elliott does in the bathroom/kitchen recording of the song. Also, I'm not used to using my thumb for chords, so I end up using the bar grips instead. Good work on the video! I might check out more of your stuff once I master this song. Getting there soon!
Thank god for this video, I spent forever trying to work out what those chords were by ear. My only suggestion though is Emaj7 instead of just Emaj in the verse.
Justin I want you to know! You have a very very good voice and it's really pleasant to listen to. I was also really impressed with you singing Neil youngs Hey hey, My My 😎
Not quite as moving as the original lyrics, with all respect to Justin. Seriously, I find this habit in Justin's teaching be sooo helpful, including the "to-the's" and such that help keep rhythm. This has been a major help for me in playing changes more smoothly and in time and in order to play and sing at the same time. And in this case, it's true that I only *might* actually attain that C with a B bass when I try so that lyric is right on :)
Think you're the best teacher on the net hands down. I'm thinking the f#-7flat5 is possibly a d7/fsharp, you know with the open d ringing. What do think? Minor point I know
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Hey Justin, thanks for making this tutorial. I really want to learn all my favorite Elliot Smith songs. If possible, could you please make a tutorial for "Place Pigalle"??
wow, this song is way more interesting then it seems at first, the time signature, rhythm, and difficult chords really show how talented elliott was. thanks so much for this detailed lesson. almost have it down but the chorus is tricky
An exceptional (and exceptionally underrated) guitar player/songwriter to say the least.
difficult chords? wait till you meet RnB soul, jazz chords
nah they are easier, as the transition and timing along with bizarree chords is what makes this sneakily difficult. rnb and jazz chords are difficult too, but this is just ugh, very tricky. @@DanielAlvarez-oq8ex
LIke so many of Elliott's songs, this one is deceptively simple... that is until you try to play it! Nicely taught. Thanks!
RIP Elliott. Thank you for honoring his memory by teaching us how to play his songs.
I came here right after learning from your lesson on Angeles and just want to say thank you. Elliot has been playing in the back of my head for about 20 years now Angeles for me was a mountain I couldn’t conquer the first time I tried so I have a real reverence for it and really just for him as a player. After taking some fingerstyle lessons, a few years of practice, i decided to give it another shot and saw you had a tutorial. I’ve been following you for years and am a big fan so knew I’d have everything I’d need to try again. After about 3 practice sessions, I’m about 75% of the way to playing it up to speed and confident I’ll be at about 90% eventually very soon. So thank you. One of my favorites songs, from one of my favorite songwriters, and you, sir, are officially now one of my favorite teachers. I appreciate your energy and you are an absolute natural teacher- to be gifted that way is rare. I work in education and consult with teachers so have some experience- to teach expertly but also with humility, and with attention to the learner the way that you do is what I myself aspire to in my own work, it’s also exactly the way I would advise anyone else to do it. Keep your same energy, man, never lose it. And again thank you. Knowing how to play angeles is a gift you gave me for free (and now also between the bars as well!). We don’t really know each other but please know you really helped this stranger. I’m not sure how to properly thank you or if I even deserve it. ✌️
Took me 8 years to get here, and it’s totally worth it!
thank you so much for playing the song first before starting the tutorial!! Alot of tutorials on youtube fail to do that which is really annoying. You're tutorials are the best.
Chaz Chez word
i love this tutorial... is there any way you could do Waltz #2 by elliott smith?
Chris Nash yes pls
Please do waltz # 2
he has now
@@savleslie holy shit 4 years later lmao, thanks for letting me know. glad to see more people appreciate his music
This song reminds me of the movie "stuck in love" with Logan Lerman and Lilly Collins. So good.
Ikr.
That scene was so beautiful.
wow so glad I saw this comment!! I love that movie and couldn't remember the total! Thank you very much :) a really amazing song too truly beautiful
Makes me smile how beautifully Elliott wrote songs. Really admirable work he done in such a short span of time. Missing him so much.
Elliott Smith brought me here
Rick and Morty brought me here
Who'd have thought?
Doubt it
Blonde Jack looool
Nahh who?
I'm about 5 years into my guitar Journey. You Justin are an excellent teacher your videos are clear, concise, well-spoken. Thank you for the couple years of guitar lessons you've given me. I started at age 41 I'm Now 46. I learned the basics using PlayStation Guitar Smith & that allowed me to follow along with your lessons thank you.🎸🎸🎸🤟🤟
I started learning guitar I think 7 years ago thanks to him and Marty Schwartz.
Is the guitar smith better than apps
Oh shit, I got goosebumps from you hitting them notes on 1:00
Ew
that cover was actually good 😌❤️
Talaga naman 🙂
@@superjokerrr what?
Great tutorial/lesson
One of my favorite songs to listen to. Playing on the guitar is even twice as better!
Thank you for uploading this video(:
Just now learning to play guitar!:) cant wait to learn this song i love it^.^ thank you so much
7 years later Are you able to this yet
@@joeswanson7502
I'd hope so, it's barely an intermediate song
KnockManJo yeah but some people give up
Thanks Norm Macdonald
Could you tell me where he referenced it? I love Norm and this song and would be cool to see it together. Thanks
cam welch
It’s a joke, he’s saying Justin looks a little like Norm Macdonald
I've always thought that
This popped up in my feed today randomly, and I just wanted to say what a beautiful performance at the beginning. Looking forward to learning it for myself.
You're awesome man, thank you!
+Aron Csiki Cheers dude :)
JustinGuitar Songs. Frankie
its been a month but i finally got it
thanks justin
angryheretic k
Justin, I've spent so many nights playing guitar and jamming with you, since the beginnig of your channel, you don't even know. Tonight Elliott Smith is playing through us. Thank you so much much for just being. Cheers. Fab
Great job on the cover! I'm literally picking up and trying to teach myself guitar, this is the first song I wanted to learn. Only 2 days in but going to practice this nonstop. Thanks for your help
How did you get on?
I was listening to elliott smith and I HAVE to learn his songs now he's a genius!!
Your singing has really improved :)
It's soooo hard to find good tutorials for guys like Elliott; extremely frustrating for newer guitarists who haven't gotten to the point where they can really make out chords or individual notes easily yet. Thanks for the tutorial, always wanted to learn this song.
How's your guitar going?
@@seanmcgrath1616 Hey! I still play, admittedly I haven't been practicing much for the past year or so but I do still pick it up from time to time. I was given a piece of advice shortly after I started learning--motivation comes and goes but just keep playing when you can. Definitely has been true for me. I still enjoy the guitar but I just accept that I'm probably not gonna be that guy that can solo for hours or play 50 different covers accurately. I'm happy with my playing and still enjoy it when I pick it up. These days I mostly play blues/folky songs and practice scales a bit.
F#m7b5 thats one hell of a chord name
It's actually pretty common.
It could also be seen as an inversion of Am6, I believe.
Théophile Richart yep. Or Am/F#
ONE HELL OF A CHORD....
I've always liked your channel. If it weren't you I probably wouldn't be playing guitar now. That you like elliott Smith, and seems to be a real fan, is a cherry on top. What a song writer.
The sustain on your guitar is brilliant Justin. Never noticed how clear and harmonic the tone is before. Makes me want one now. Haha.
That's my favourite video of yours so far. I will come back here just to listen to the cover in the beginning! Hope I can play it someday:)
miss him tremendously ~ what a talent. Still Unsolved.... !
Love this lesson - thankyou! If the weird chord progression over "...don't want around anymore" put's you off, you can totally play F, G, Am and it still works. If I was open micing this song that bit would be my Achilles heel, so I'd go for the simple way and nobody would notice.
Great job Justin. Elliott was in a league of his own. So gifted yet it was not enough to keep him here on earth. I find this song extremely sad. So sad I do not want to play it. Thank you for the tip on tuning down with a capo.
Sorry mate, just heard your whole stp lower tuning at 3:47. Thanks! I was playing it by using a capo at 3rd fret (open Gm) and transposing the other chords but did see the ES video and you play it like him.
Perfect tutorial! Thanks, Justin. I used your videos to learn electric when I was in middle school, and my music taste has evolved a ton since then, so it was super nostalgic for me to find this video from you :) Hope you're well!
Thank you so much for this lesson, it's great ❤️
I found this song and a few others of his thanks to you! It's funny that I used the same lyric myself in a piece that I wrote. The cycle of depression and drinking, makes you feel that you're trapped between the bars so to speak. Looking out, always observing and feeling like a prisoner, a slave to the system. Good job
About that chord at 8:00 (what you labeled as Ab6 or Fm with an Ab bass): as an almost classically trained musician, this is an F minor chord in first inversion. There’s a descending bass note pattern in that passage from Ab back to F (chromatically too!)
The chords actually go into eachother really well if you use the right fingers, for example when going from the c shape to the one with a B base instead of bringing up your middle finger slide your ring finger down a fret and then just pick up your middle finger, that way you can easily transition to an E by just simply putting your pinky and middle finger on the frets they’re already sitting on, making it even easier to transition to F by just moving your 234 E shape up a fret and baring your index finger.
I know this is from quite some time ago, but on that funky F#/Am, I just make it easier by starting with the Am and thumbing(or middle fingering) the F# bass on 2nd half to walk down to the F. Its easier, and adds a layer of complexity that’s actually in line with the melody of the song.
justin really thanks for all of your work by the years.
man i really appreciate you teaching this stuff.
Your channel is such an incredible resource for guitarists. Thanks so much for your help over the years!
Thanks, Justin. I've been following your lessons on and off for a few years. I find them to be the easiest to follow that I've seen, and I greatly appreciate it. Elliott Smith is one of my favorites! Very grateful for your lessons and including some of his work.
Although there probably isn't much of an interest or demand for it, have you ever considered a lesson on Ben Howard? (Mainly the song Gracious.)
Anyways, I just wanted to say thank you. I hope you have a great holiday!
Thank you so much Justin, I've been learning a lot from you man, you're a great teacher and a truly generous human being,
this is awesom - your teaching method is great :) thank you
A truly perfect song. Nice lesson.
Fantastic vocal chops on this one Justin! I also think you made this your own, since Elliott's style is hard to exactly replicate. Chapeau!
He would play it without a pick i think?
Fits your voice perfectly Justin!!! Keep on goin'!
Best tutorial on this song I've seen so far. Suscribed!
Hey Justin. Thanks so much for posting this. I tried to learn it ages ago from the "kitchen" video you mention and really struggled with the strum pattern, incorporated bass notes and working out the exact chords. Bought a new acoustic yesterday after a long while without playing and was pretty intimidated by the idea of playing this when I found your video. But a couple of hours and I've got the general shape of it down pat. Just need to practice and polish now. Thanks so much!
I learned to play this song thanks to this video. It was really helpfull to have each chord described in detail and played slowly. Thanks!
I've adjusted to play a small variation from you at the chorus at: "...you've been before, that you...", I strum the chord every time I vary the bass tone, like Elliott does in the bathroom/kitchen recording of the song.
Also, I'm not used to using my thumb for chords, so I end up using the bar grips instead.
Good work on the video! I might check out more of your stuff once I master this song. Getting there soon!
Perfect lesson as always. You always seem so cheerful mate, it really brightens up the day.
awesome, glad to see an elliott smith song on your channel. I love how you acknowledged him as one of the greatest guitar players
this is the superior tutorial... the other ones on youtube are so watered down. well done :)
Absolutely fantastic. I'm not a very accomplished guitarist and this really helped! Thanks, man.
Nice tutorial mark hoppus
Thank god for this video, I spent forever trying to work out what those chords were by ear. My only suggestion though is Emaj7 instead of just Emaj in the verse.
I really like the tone of your voice . It’s really nice .
you are the king of guitar tuts
you nailed the singing here Sir! Great song, and the emotion you put into the song is very moving.
This song is the reason to play guitar, thanks Justin.
Thanks man I really appreciate your ability to achieve and decipher Elliotts sound. Thanks for the lesson
Great song, great lesson. This one really suits your voice Justin.
Good work man, very coherent. One of the better tutorials I've seen on here.
I love this song sm
Nicely done jason.
That was a great performance in the beginning!
I believe i will take a long time learning this
Thanks. I'm a big fan of ES. Just take it slow and keep practicing! :)
I'm getting in love with this song.
+Matt Beautiful lyrics and relaxing melodies . It is indeed a song to fall in love .
Justin I want you to know! You have a very very good voice and it's really pleasant to listen to. I was also really impressed with you singing Neil youngs Hey hey, My My 😎
Wow Justin - one my my favorite covers by you! So good!!
That was a great lesson.
Beautiful!! This is amazing! Great Tutorial, thank you :)
I love your tutorials man. Perfect for intermediate begginers looking to branch out
Awesome tutorial as always! Thanks so much
The cover is brilliant, the lesson excellent
Absolutely gorgeous song - so glad you covered it Justin, you're awesome :-)
great idea, love this song so much and the strokes are great! I second this motion.
You are the man! Thanks for all your work!
Wow so good Justin. I love it
Thanks for the lesson, Man. It was great. I wouldn't be where I am skill-wise without you. I really appreciate it.
Made me so happy to see this come up. Awesome tutorial.
Beautiful performance, thx for that lesson...
Thanks, Justin!
one of my favourite songs ever ty so much...
Thanks again for a great video. Aldo ordered your Beginners Songbook ! Im getting ready to rock ;-)
A great song Justin, I think it belongs in intermediate class. I'm finding songs you teach easier to learn these days with your help of course.
Great lesson
Justine, you are awesome!
Beautiful ! Great content
Such a great song!
perfect, thank you! its not easy to catch up an elliot song, but you made a very good job!
Excellent lesson thank you
"To C with a B bass but you might"
Not quite as moving as the original lyrics, with all respect to Justin. Seriously, I find this habit in Justin's teaching be sooo helpful, including the "to-the's" and such that help keep rhythm. This has been a major help for me in playing changes more smoothly and in time and in order to play and sing at the same time. And in this case, it's true that I only *might* actually attain that C with a B bass when I try so that lyric is right on :)
fantastic performance and tutorial
Great stuff as always, Justin, thanks a ton. :)
Thanks for this, this was a very good way for me to learn this
Amazing tutorial man, seriously, you outdid yourself this time
Thank you so much. From KOREA
Think you're the best teacher on the net hands down. I'm thinking the f#-7flat5 is possibly a d7/fsharp, you know with the open d ringing. What do think? Minor point I know
Helpful many thanks!!
Danny
Glad it was helpful!
Cheers 😊
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Hey Justin, thanks for making this tutorial. I really want to learn all my favorite Elliot Smith songs. If possible, could you please make a tutorial for "Place Pigalle"??
Great tutorial