1950's Johnson Outboard, Will it run?
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- Опубликовано: 7 дек 2019
- I purchased this ~65 year old Johnson outboard from a local guy who never had it running, and in this video we'll look the engine over and determine if it's worth fixing up and see if we can get it to kick over a few times for us. 1950's Johnson Outboard.
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You are thorough,you show respect and you know what you're doing 😉 ! You are...gooood !
thanks! It's been a few years now, but I still have that old motor.
Water pumps dislike operating without water intensely.
I should probably include a note about this in that video, but I'm not interested in saving that water pump. It's of unknown age and for 25 dollars I usually replace them on all outboards I do. Cheap insurance
As of September 2021 bought a 1967 Johnson outbound, runs great! All I had to do was put a new fuel pump on.
That's awesome, the old Johnson outboards really are some of the best you can get.
Will it run? It's American Made Iron. Hell yes it will run!
I bought a 1958 35 horse Evinrude in the 80"s. All I Had to do was reset the coil gaps and it ran for 10 years
They're awesome machines for sure
u gotta pull that a bit harder
I am currently working on a 58 Johnson seahorse 10. was in my garage for 30 plus years and it started. just needs a good tune up.
They're great little engines for sure. I like the 80's and 90's Johnson's as well, super reliable
Black plugs in a two stroke are better then white and gray one's if you see that it means it's running very lean but you know what they say lean is fast! Until you start melting pistons down speaking from experience lol coffee brown color is what you want to see at least that's what I like to see
From outboard motors, to Argos, to International harvester trucks, I love all your videos. You have a great range of skill sets and I look forward to every video that you post. All great content!!!
Thanks Paul! I actually still have this outboard, I planned to use it on the boat but we ended up selling it so it just sort of sat around for a while in my garage. Now that I have the Argo though, I'm considering putting it back into service as it's right on that 10HP max rating for the Argo's transom. I'll test the shaft length and a few other things soon to see if it works out or not, I sure like the thought of pairing them together
1957 for sure and the top plug wire is marked . the transom handle is easy to find and parts are ready available , that ten is a strong motor , 1958 they made changes . the fuel system is a 2 hose pressure tank . It looks complete from here but id change the impeller and id use champion plugs a j7c works the best. fuel mixture 18:1 or 32:1 if you wish .
Well someone had done some work on this motor because I don't think NGK plugs were in the US or Canada in the 1950's.
For the spark as a 50+ year old mechanic for these old omc evinrude and Johnson you gotta pull it over quicker then that to get spark if you don’t spin the fly wheel quick enough the magnets on the coils and the points won’t have any spark
No worries, the motor has good spark it just doesn't come through very well on camera. I bought a little spark tester recently which is much brighter and shows up better for the camera
Rust Rehab ohh haha you can’t kill those old motors as long as it has good points and none cracked coils and good condensers they’ll run for ever that’s the only reason why there still around now in 2020
I would love to have it on my 1968 12 foot boat
good luck there and hope you have a wonderful tome man .
I believe that is a 1958 Johnson. I would not suggest using brake fluid (or starting fluid) that washes all oil off the cylinder wall. These motors use 20/1 oil mix that I would suggest you use to keep it properly lubricated. Great little motors. I had a 1955 10 hp Johnson ( green but same look} on my sea flee when I was a kid in the ;60s good luck with it.
im actually thinking of building a sea flea!
1957 but close ! lol
Mix the ATF with something like PB Blaster to thin it out and let that soak it. The oils dry out over time and this has been sitting. Roll it slowly with the plugs out.
ran a 30 hp back in 1970,same color..mixed regular motor oil in gas,had lower unit repaired...finally burned it up with lean/rich control....that thing always started 1st pull
These are lovely old motors for sure, I feel a bit guilty for not running it a bit more. Would you mind telling me how you came across this video? It seems to have really blown up with views latley.
@@RustRehab i did look at another johnson this week,now guess i will get bombarded with the same?....if you run without water,probably will ruin the impeller
@@thankswillie I'm not worried about the impeller, it's of unknown age and quality anyhow so it needs to be replaced before that engine ever sees the water. I havent looked for one yet, but the Johnson's are pretty good when it comes to old parts availability
It's a two engine. Two stroke engines need carb cleaning all the time, because of gunk build ups. So first give a thorough carb maintenance,and,then give it a proper test in a water drum !
Good motors for sure. Yours is a QD18 (1957) with a 58 tiller handle which are a bad design and hard on the hand after hours if use.
I just picked up a 7,5 hp Johnson Low and behold when I removed the cover there was a service slip saying new points, condensers, spark plug wires, and plugs. I paid $100 and thought I paid to much. I was told it ran five years ago.. I guess I did ok It said fully serviced.
Wow, there's a lucky break! What age is yours?
I have 30hp Johnson, made in 1956 ! I keep it in my living room !!!
that's awesome! it was a few years ago I made that video, but I still have the motor. I've been considering repainting it and making it look nice, but at the same time I think I'd probably rather it stay original . They're great looking units for sure
This is about a 1957 to 58 motor. It should run. Usually clean the point and plugs to make sure there's a good spark. Also change the lower unit oil and water pump impeller. All these arts are available.
The squeaky noise it the rewind very common with those old motors. Also 24:1 fuel mixture .
They invented the gear shift later on Evinrude and Johnson did company was very innovative OMC wich is gone now. Look up on plant 1 you can see the history of OMC plant 1 on RUclips.
I may give that a shot. This video is several years old now, but just tonight I bought a boat with an old OMC Cobra outdrive on it. It's too bad they folded, but at least parts are still easy enough to come by in my area.
My dad has a strange magnetic pull to collecting any old Johnson motor he has two of those sitting around in a junk pile along with a 1942 model he swears that they run perfectly
That's really cool, I love picking up old outboards. I don't even have a boat anymore, I sold mine this summer.. But I'll probably keep picking up motors over the winter, I can hardly help myself!
Kool. Subbed and will be waiting on part 2. Dandahermit
I love 💕 the damn thing !!!
Another great video.I just hit that subscribe button
Thanks! I hope to be back and able to work on some new projects in the near future
@@RustRehab sounds great can’t wait to see
I had a 1954 evinrude 18 hp I did get it running but shook too much so I took it apart and everything was worn crank pistons and bearings all scored so I sold it for parts 100.00 along with a 69 evinrude 40 hp with a bad block but crank was good sold it all back in 1981 I just bought a much newer motor and bigger along with a Glastron boat hardly used like new
That's one thing that I don't have to worry about much up way. The boating season is so short that it's really uncommon for a non commercial motor to be worn out. The guy I bought mine from was using it as wall art, but I never did check the cylinders on it for wear
So did you put transmission fluid in the cylinders?
@@jimatkins2980 it's been a few years since I made that video, I don't remember the exact fluid I used to lubricate the cylinders any longer
@@RustRehab I really appreciate all your input and information. It's been a big help. Where would I start to look for a water pump. 1955 30 horse Elgin?
@@jimatkins2980 if you can find a parts diagram online and pull the part number off that, just googling it or putting it into Amazon often produces results. I wonder sometimes if a 3d printer could be used with a proper filiment to replicate them.
@@RustRehabthat's the approach I'm trying with the water pump. I pulled the plugs today and I was amazed that when it was winterized the oils were still there. But yeah I think a 3d-printer would work. I hadn't thought of that. I'll do some research on it and get back with you. That's a great idea 💡
The noise is the pull starter, did you spray wd40 before you pulled? Not after
Shoot starter fluid in the carburetor
Just to help you out 1957 is the year of your motor. Your also missing the rubber bumpers for the hood .
Enjoyed your video on what appears to be a nice outboard. What is up with your watch that only shows 6:07?
I'm shocked someone noticed that on video, my coworkers haven't even noticed in real life. The watch was a gift from my wife ~10 years ago, it spent a winter lost in a snowy field and even though it would never tell time again I'm just so use to having it there that I don't often take it off. The straps recently broke though, so I suppose it's time I replace it. I don't know how I'm ever going to get rid of my growing collection of motors and trucks if I can't even get rid of a broken watch!
Don’t get rid of your watch!! Even a broken (analog) watch shows the right time twice a day 😊
I actually got it back together not long after I posted that last comment, but the straps broke again last month for good this time while away for work. I'll keep the watch face, even if I can't repair it, but it's about time to look for a new one I think!
That's a great logo btw! I'm thinking I might have one made up sometime too
iwould advise you clean the spark plugs up and make sure there is cracks in casing also.
The casing is okay, but if I ever run the motor any amount I'll need to do the plugs too. I should take a look for a water impeller too, but I sold my last boat this summer so I haven't bothered yet
My dad has a 1954? Johnson 35hp I need to get running soon.
I love the look of 50's outboards, the guy I bought this one from actually had it mounted on his wall as a decoration
This one was from my Grandpa I think, he has another that is a 65 35hp Johnson with a 64 StarCraft 14' I'm about to start getting it all back to it's prime and using it again. So far as I know it's maybe been in the water once since I've been alive and I'm 32.
Make sure you do the water impeller on yours, I didn't do it on mine yet but it's probably brittle as could be. You can still buy them an amazon I think, which is nuts
@@RustRehab thanks, fortunately my dad had two service manuals which helps, he knows how to fix them too. I however have never worked on a boat or anything with points. It'll be a learning experience for me, plus I get to keep the boat in the family for another generation.
I think I might try and do a series of videos on the rebuild of both engines and the boat.
How much does a motor like this weigh?
It's quite heavy for a 10hp. I'm a pretty terrible judge of weight, but I'll say around 50 pounds
If you want to spray something into a two stroke, you should at least use carb cleaner. Just because it has a bit of lubricity unlike break cleaner. Always keep a 2 stroke well lubricated. overall good job though
No! To both! Premium starting fluid has upper engine lubrication. Must read the can!
hi all I am looking for parts for the Yamaha 5a 644 engine
I don't have any Marine yamaha parts but I'll let you know if I come across some
Looks like a 1958 I have a 56 just a little bit different
1957
hope you had it in the water and running plus driving it in the water being used for fishing man .
Have you heard of an "Argo"? It's an amphibious 8x8 atv type thing, and I'm planning to pick one up sometime. I'm thinking this outboard will be used on the back of that
1957 for sure.
It's a beautiful outboard. That video is a few years old, and even though I don't have a boat for it anymore I still keep it around.
It's a Johnson it will always run
They are great motors. I have an even older one, somewhere between 1924-1944 that also runs. It's a shame the brand is gone now
50/50 chance to get plug wires right 🙃
50/50 shot, wrong every time!
You doubt it. That was my grandfather's old sea horse 10 2 stroke outboard motor from when he was in the service WWll witch now he's dead.& Gone due to that reason alone to.& Health problems from it all to. It was fogging oil in the cylinders I put it in them myself. He sold it to me. That outboard motor is stolen from 1992&1993 witch was sold 10 years later on down the road. It came from Bedford, Tennessee to.,or out of Shelbyville, Tennessee one to. Shipped to you off Facebook marketplace. I bet mustie1 sold that to.
I don't live in the USA, and I bought it in person from a fella up my way. No shipping involved. Those 50's Johnson's arnt uncommon up here, I almost bought another at a flea market this weekend but my wife got a hold of me first. Really nice old machines
We'll I know for that one was the one that was for on our trailer back Porch 28 to 30 years ago now. It probably was sold to someone else there.& Then you ended up with it yourself. It's it not your problem on that part of it all either man. Crap happens to people that it shouldn't have to begin with in life. My grandfather drew those out lines markings onto it were the stickers use to go at. And I already knew that the handle was broken on it aswell to. It was being shipped in when everything I every worked for got stolen off me.
When I was A young teenager boy around twelve.,or thirteen back then. I never expected it to ever come back to none of it all. I live in A garbage country that allows such activities to to take place.& Go on to man.
I'm over it all now it's just my grandfather's old sea horse 10 outboard motor from WWll that doesn't matter anymore. I hate the military.& Our government here in my country to anyways.
You need parts let me know I have everything for that motor.Glenn P.
I think I have it running okay for now, but I'll be able to tell better in the summer when I can run it in a tank. If you have the graphics for the sides though I would be very interested in those!
@@RustRehab NYMarine in Canada has all the decals about $50.00 a set there 3mil vinyl and look great and easy to put on peel backing off and set with some Windex..GP. P.S. check the ignition coils see if they have been replaced pop off starter recoil and little cover on flywheel to view to see if there cracked common problem.
@@OutBoardTink62 Perfect, will do! I'll also check to see if they have decals for my 1923-1943 SeaHorse 15, I'd love to get that looking like new as well
You hav to pull that thing a lot harder flywheel isn’t turning fast enough
Put new coils /condenser in, its probably cracked from age
Funny you should mention it, I just bought a replacement coil for another vintage motor. A late 40's early 50's elgin. I do still have the Johnson seen in this video, but due to the age and weight (and the fact that I don't have a boat at the moment) I'll probably keep it on the back burner for a while yet. Pretty sure you can still get these coils no problem, but I wonder about the water pump
@@RustRehab I have a Johnson like that mine has a bad coil . Can't seem to find a replacement , any ideas ? Thanks.
Amazon is where I got mine from. If you search for "1950's Johnson coils" you should get quite a few, then just match them with the size laminate for your coil. For the power and rpm that these motors run at, sometimes just getting on that's close enough is fine. That's worked for me in the past. Some sellers also list which motors theirs are compatible with, so you could search through that way as well.
@@RustRehab thanks much
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No fuel
Get some oil in those cylinders before you pull it over. Even wd40
The 50s.
Are we fixing the engine or playing around with spark plugs????
Need gas
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