Lets be honest here, Mick carried them for years. Some defininate scumbaggery going on. Vince Neil has been utter trash for a very long time. I hope Mick wins.
I bet Nikki is the one behind not wanting to pay him . He thinks he owns .. that band . But Mick named the band Motley Crue , is responsible for the idea of Tommy's rotating drum act , from his past band that did it first . And anyone who knows a little about music , knows Nikki didn't come up with those early guitar riffs Mick played . He didn't even know what he was doing back then . Mick did carry them
Exactly!! I'm sorry, but he sounds like shit now. Yes back in the day he was one of the best vocalists of his time. His voice HELPED make Motley who they are. Just as with Mick's guitar playing. He helped shape the band. They shouldn't be doing this to him. Of all members of the band, he was the most sane.
I feel for Mick Mars. It has to be difficult working with people who act like children. So many of his riffs are iconic while it feels like everyone else lags behind in talent.
Mick was definitely the "backbone" of Motley Crew, this sorry outcome is the thanks he gets! The last band I was in, I got fired for missing one practice session. I was actually ok with it. I ended up visiting some of the venus we performed at. Each time, the venue manager stated that the band sucked without me! LOL.. Then, many of the venues ended up firing them or taking them off the rotation!
From all the articles and comments ive read, People are OVERWHELMING supporting Mick. I dont know who will win in a Court of Law, But the Court of Public Opinion has been decided, and it looks like a PR nightmare for the Crue!
I feel bad for Mick. To have the other three turn on you after being an integral part of the band. The importance of his monster tone can't be understated in regards to the sound and success of the band. He always seemed like the only leveled headed one of the bunch, and the only one to stay out of trouble/headlines. Not sure how much of the mud slinging is true on either side, but it sure is a bummer.
Yeah Mick is respected the Most, the other 3 Dummies always getting into trouble & Most Fans know this. I just don't think he should sue, just tell his story. Tommy Nikki & Vince have done some Stupid Bullshit before & Lied But this is the Worst & The lowest of the 3 Dummies
I read the whole 29 page document that Mick Mars and his legal team submitted in the lawsuit. It's very interesting. I'm typing this as I watch, so I'm not sure if Max brought this up, but a video was also recently leaked of Mick's IEM mix and he sounded amazing. Vince on the other hand... And he didn't have any of Nikki's bass or Tommy's drums in his mix. Just the click, himself, and a whisper of Vince's vocals
Mick Mars deserves every penny of his 25% of the band. Much like Steve Perry of Journey and Don Felder of The Eagles and Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac. .
Steve Perry wrote or co-wrote every hit song Journey had during time with Journey. During his 1st solo era he had hits songs without Journey. To date, Journey has not had a hit song since he was forced out.
I saw Motley Crue on their "farewell" tour in 2015. The one they signed contracts for, promising that was really it. LOL. Vince was so sad even then. Any high high note, the mic went toward the crowd to them them do the work. Everyone knows poor Mick has been living with his medical condition. This sucks, man.
I agree with everything you said Max. Even if Mars messed up playing live, NO ONE would care because they know he has a condition! I would just be super stoked he is playing anyways!
I'm glad I was able to see Crue's original lineup last year but you're right. If anyones performance should be questioned, it's Vince's. Absolute low-light of the night. Mick's playing was top notch!
In 1988 MC cancelled their shows in London “due to fears about the weight of snow on the roof of Wembley Arena”. Truth was there hadn’t been any snow, but Sixx did have a heroin overdose and wasn’t able to play. I wouldn’t believe a word that bunch of clowns says. Good luck to Mick. 🤘
Crüe came out retirement because of the success of The Dirt. All the sudden their fan base grew by millions of new people. I would have cashed in also.
I really feel for Mick, the whole thing with his health problems, it really sucks. I think the best way MC could have handled this would've been to completely disband MC all together, then start a new band with John 5. That's what they should have done. This way, there's a clean break with everything and everyone, and no need to drag everyone's legacy through the mud of litigation. I agree, it's an ugly way to go out.
Reminds me of all the in-fighting within Van Halen. Two great bands torn apart witrh a bunch of "he said - he said." Can't they just play their music without all the personal b.s.?
Vince Neil's performance with Motley Crue is a super intense Rock and Metal extravaganza. It's unbelievably physically demanding. Between songs, and sometimes between verses, he has roadies provide him critical sustenance in the form of ice cream sandwiches dipped in pancake syrup, "Vince Neil Minestrone" (a special soup of bacon fat, chopped hot dogs, cheese whiz, vanilla cake icing and scrapple), and rotisserie chicken. Vince needs backing tapes for his vocals because sometimes he's chewing. I for one, am tired of people who don't understand what a genius and God of rock this man is. Stop the criticism.
Mick Mars did carry those guys for years. He may be struggling with AS, but he still can play just as good, if not better, than any of the other members of Motley Crue. He deserves more respect than what the has shown him as of late. I saw the 2022 North American Stadium Tour when they played Fenway Park in Boston, on August 6th. The sound was "not as good" as it should have been (and that was because in Massachusetts, concert tours are required to use local union sound technicians, and they are not familiar with how the bands craft their individual sound...but that's another issue). Even though the sound was "sub-par", I have to say, Def Leppard was "on top of their game", and put on an amazing show. I cannot say the same for Motley Crew. They were sloppy, they missed notes and chords, and they just didn't sound like you would hope they would, when you shell out big money to see them live. Vince Neil can't even sing anymore. He either forgets the lyrics, or just takes very noticeable short cuts while trying to "get through" a song. Vince, the words are..."SHOUT AT THE DEVIL", not "Shout the Devil"! Even during their performance, I said to my girlfriend..."they should have just stayed retired", because they are all washed up and just don't have it anymore. Glad I got to see the tour, and Def Leppard, just very disappointed about Motley Crue, and shelling out $225.00 a ticket to see it.
why Bother? the could put out a statement & or even have it on a Sign at the show "we use backing Tracks" and people will still GO. the word is Out. ive been a Crue fan since 1986, always wanted to see them Live, Now i wouldn't go see Motley crue if the Tickets were ONE Dollar.
Agree and who would go and see a rock band with a guy who got his gitar under his armpit? Really? Not very cool even if he can play. I would not spend a dime on a recording rockband.
My inclination is to conclude that Mic does not owe Tommy, Vince and Nikki one penny in advances and that this rebuttal claim from their attorney is fanciful. It's easy to sympathize with him regarding his position. I have been where he is on an infinitesimal scale. I've never played with any rock band that had real professional aspirations or incentives like Crue unless it came down to classic American cheap talk) but I definitely was in Mic's precise position regarding the obligation to carry other band members whose capabilities were questionable at best and mediocre at most but who got a lot of undue credit for things that I was responsible for. Factor in that I may not have a spinal disorder the way he does but am legally blind, and that gives me more clout to sympathize with him over the others. They were upset that he needed to stop, and they probably attacked him for nonexistent musical shortcomings out of fear that he might do what he has done and blow the whistle on their own inequities. It might only be a spitball on my part, but I think there is more of a case for Mic than there is for the others or their attorney. From what little I have gleaned about the individual Crue members, Mic strikes me as the one with the least ego out of all four. That makes the notion that this is even taking place much more disappointing and tragic.
When the band first debuted in the 80's they looked like girls with make up. Vince Neil said at the time, "We look like girls but we can kick your ass" Vince later beat up a whore at a Nevada brothel for overcharging him.
Its not 1994 anymore. Nobody cares if bands are actually playing. Good lord theyre in their 60s playing stadiums. Theres not a a 60+ yr old rocknroll vocalist in the history of earth who wouldnt hv to sing w tracks. The vocal cords give out quicker than the arm of 45 yr old NFL QB.
I think that many years ago in an interview, Vince said something like that everybody loves the music part but everyone hates the business part of music.
you can see and hear the pantomiming in every video since the pandemic, and Nikki is almost guaranteed to be projecting his own cognitive issues from the years of iv drug and alcohol abuse . Vince is too easy to make fun of, and Tommy is just his usual money hungry self going along with the paycheck. It's sad to see, but eerily appropriate for Mötley. I kinda hope the other three lose their relevance and fade into obscurity after this.
This is really sad, and I think there has been precedences. VH forced Michael Anthony to sign off on his royalties, the Eagles forced out their original bassist and guitar player (except Don Felder) and took away the profits from them.
Why isn't anyone taking the time to give Max some love. Hit those thumbs up and help him out for his work. He takes the time to entertain and inform us. Take time (less than a second) to say thanx and help his channel.
I saw Vince live in 96 and even then his voice was shot! Kiss has been doing it for 25 years and people keep paying top dollar to see a light & pyro show!
Regarding wanting to replace Mick since 87, not sure about this but as we all are not privy to the facts what I can say as a FACT is when MC were convinced by their management to re-unite for the 'Carnival of Sins 1996 Tour' the doco on all of this is on line and available, the band [it seems to me] did EVERYTHING and more to first actually 'find' MM, and then after meetings between all/management it was decided Mick enter rehab/then have a hip operation to bring him back to being somewhat healthy given his spinal condition - but able to start rehearsals and then complete that huge tour. MC at this point were still using Sixx mainly as backing vocals and it was prior to recorded backing vocals being put in place. Anyone can watch the concerts and see Sixx 'is' singing. Vince is physically is ok shape, he was up until Crue Fest 1+2, but the 'End Tour' was both a disgrace/embarrassment for Vince, a bloated arrogant front man who could not even complete songs. Fast forward to the 'Stadium Tour', where Crue demanded stupendous financial payments, and the band they're currently touring with Def Leppard - who have NEVER used backing tracks, DL's bassist/twin guitarists ALL sing, a quirk 'Mutt' Lange taught Collen/Sav with, Viv is arguably 'the' strongest vocally but with Def Leppard you get 100% pure 'live' hard rock. For the 'Stadium Tour' the promoters inserted a VERY strict rider Vince 'had' to shed weight but even now Vince is still imo way overweight - hence vocal tracking on 'some' songs which he simply cannot complete on his own without help. Speaking as a LLB student and a Crue Head first thing for me is I am disgusted in the way Mick's been treated and I don't need an opinion poll to tell 'me' the OVERWHELMING majority of Crue fans agree with me. Sixx, although a genius as a song writer has always been the 'leader' of MC. Sixx 'has', well over a decade ago admitted the band uses backing vocals, the 2 chicks you see are NOT singing like the original 2 'Nasty Habits', one of which Mick married and has since passed away. Vince and Lee are not smart enough to pull this off, Lee has TDS and never really established social skills as Phil Lewis arguably rightly notes, Sixx also is the same although he's more travelled/marginally socially mature and Sixx is utterly ruthless, and full of shit on key parts of his FF/MC life. One FACT is simple - Sixx has been enamoured with 5 for a decade +. Sixx has always wanted 5 in the band and to me, trying to sort the facts from the spin - Sixx used Mick's physical condition as a pre text. Sixx is shameless. This is the bloke who said if the band ever toured again [after their contract signing] "I would have SO much egg on my face", verbatim quote. I see greed nowadays as the ONLY driver for Sixx and the band. In Vince's autobiography he openly states he'd love "fuck you money". Well, the band now have this with imo Paul Stanley type spin and denial, and pure BS. I 'do' feel sorry for John 5. He's now been thrown into a mess and the entire fan base and world are watching. I just want so bad for Mick's solo project to come out, it has been a LONG time waiting. Apologies ALL for the word length. A lot I kept out but Mick imo is owed fans feedback.
It’s just weird how they had booked studio time and a producer to work on new music around the time the lawsuit came out . So mick was never coming back
And Rob Rock is said to be doing the Bass on Crue's new album music resources are claiming. Same dude who did the Bass on St. Anger after Jason Newsted left.
What do I think? Money. The shit slinging and pointing fingers all comes down to the money. And I find that really, really sad. I totally agree with Max that Motley Crue's legacy ending on this note is also really sad.
I didn’t follow the band growing up and didn’t really become a fan until Dr. Feel good, so I don’t know all the history, but to be around so long, there MUST’VE been a time when they were friends. I just can’t believe it’s devolved into this.
What this all boils down to is, they have tried to oust mick for years! An they had all this planned with john 5... nikki an J5 have been friends for years now.. an they dont want to pay mick for there future tours.. so nikki ,vince, tommy an john 5 have went into the studio to overdub all micks parts.. an writing new album.. hoping this is a way out for them.. but the reality is, they have no choice but to pay mick for every song up to now! Cause hes on every one of them.. so since hes a founding member an owns 25% of the band he has say so, an they hate that! An they have to pay him every time they do a show playing any of the material he helped write an played on.. an its no secret vince, nikki, tommy all pissed away there fortunes on drugs women an booze an thats why they want to tour again!! To pay for all the big houses an divorces and alimony, child support they have to pay an dont want to have to pay mick an john 5.. so for there own greed they are screwing over a long time friend, fellow musician an founder of the band, who without they literally would be nothing!! The only reason they an their lawyers have chosen mud slinging about his age an memory is a cheap an dirty way to take full control of his portion, kinda like a kid taking his parents to court for everything by having them declared incompetent!! An thats what they are trying to do!! An i believe mick! Yea nikki can play, but hes not a very good bass player.. cause hes kinda like micheal Anthony in a way, cause eddie said he used to show mike the parts he wanted him to play, though mike was a very good bass player!! An the parts he played in van halen weren't technically sophisticated he got the job done! An he had his massive vocals! What does nikki have? Hmm? His vocals aren't very good an neither is his bass playing! An id say mick probably did have to show nikki his parts! But all that aside, what they are doing to mick is like alex, Mike, an david or sammy(depends on you ya like)throwing out eddie!! In Motley Crue Mick Mars was Eddie VanHalen!! Often imitated but will never be duplicated! He has more fire an passion than most musicians half his age! I wish that i could play as good as mick on his worst day, much less when hes feeling like fighting rooster at his age of 71yrs old! So my heart goes out to mick, an i hope that he finds peace an happiness through this.. Bless you Mick an long live the legend that is mick mars!!
Finding out that they are faking the instrumentation really disturbs me. My first concert was Motley Crue/Whitesnake on the Girls, Girls, Girls tour at Joe Lewis Arena. The energy was amazing. I'll be so disappointed if I find out they aren't really playing. How long has that been going on?
We shouldn’t be too upset. Can you imagine the great mercy, of not having to suffer through a entire set of utterly unco-ordinated & off-everything noises being blasted through a top line PA system? 😖
I Understand what Mick is going through for I too have (pronounced) ANK LEE OSING, Spond A LITIS if that helps MAX for it is very painful to do just normal everyday tasks let alone tour up on your feet for hours like Mick is so I'm definitely on team Mick
All this is back firing on them, their egos are rediculous, they actually think they can just do this to Mick and move on with no repercussions! Amazing😂
They wanted John 5 obviously but Mick was the only guy with a good head on his shoulders and you would have to think they just handled it poorly for Mick to do what he's doing.
Motley Crue is the original pop rock. Vince Neil was always a faker. Never understood those who held this band in high esteem. Train wrecks are not something to aspire to.
I remember their 1st album...my friend and me were in a record store (yup, that old) searching for new metal bands to listen to and came across that girl band that looked hot (picture of the dudes was tiny, for our defense) then we had a shock wondering why the singer sang that high with all the jokes that comes with that fact :) Good times Saw them at verdun auditorium in Mtl Qc Can in what, 84?
I honestly don't care. I do take Mick's side, in the sense that he was perfectly capable of performing live (especially in relation to Vince's awful caterwauling), but this line up wasn't going to do any new material, so that immediately disparages them of any relevance. I mean, c'mon, they're basically a greatest hits jukebox now, so why should I care? And yes, I know they want to do new music now with John 5, and that's cool, but DON'T call it Motley Crue.
@@srh361 Firstly, saying their first two albums were their best is purely your opinion and entirely subjective. Secondly, with Dr Feelgood being their most commercially successful album they 'live off' that one more-so than the others. Financially at least.
@@motleydude73 And your comments are purely your opinion as well. I guess Saints of Los Angeles was great album? Actually, musicically Motley '94 was their best but....
@@srh361 IMO Saints was pretty good. Raw dirty rock. Is that not what they're known for? 94 was their worst album commercially. Nobody liked Corabi, not even the Crue 😅
At this point I don't think it really matters. Motley has been a drama fest for 30 years. On top or on the Bottom I don't think public opinion will matter on how they go out. It's been written in stone since Vince left back in the 90's.
Good stuff Max, I’m pretty sure the Rebellion Sixx came from to immediate stardom,fame and fortune at that age, he as well as Tommy never really had to develop social skills that incorporate empathy..these clowns made great music, but have never grown up. Mick was grown up before the fame and fortune,,he’s the only sound mind.
Mick is the one that kept this band together, he was older than everyone else and had a family and knew what he wanted in life and made good life decisions, which cant be said for the rest of the Crue, pun intended. I saw them for Girls tour in 87 ish? when I was 14 or so, they were great, then I saw them again for Dr Pheelgewd. He is the one reason that this band has as much as they do!
Agreed 100% to everything said in this video! Really is sad. MC was amazing back in their day. Shoulda went out with a bang. Especially after “The Dirt” came out and revamped their popularity.
I find Mick Mars owing the band money laughable.. The rest of them drug addict alcoholics show boats blew more money than just about any other rock band in history. Mick Mars just sat and watched them implode and now gets accused of owing them millions lol.. I am willing to bet it would be the other way around!
What do I think about it ? It's just a shame , no doubt lawyers are just going to lie , Mojo Nixon "Destroy all lawyers" and I'm sure I could quote a lot of others in this unfortunate case , "Misery Business" ect. The bottom line is my heart goes out to Mick Mars and I certainly feel disenfranchised from my own life's work , enough said ✌️
I hate drama. I hate celebrity drama. I do love rock and roll and 'Crue has some killer rock N roll songs. I only watched this video because I love your voice. And your hair, Guitar MAX.
Those guys turned on mick and stabbed him in the back along with there greedy ass manager.! I hope mick wins his case against them... They should be ashamed of themselves but they are not unfortunately... I feel they've ripped the fans off by pretending to play their instruments.! Mick was the only dude playing live and that goes for John 5 as well
Great update! Mick owes them $$??!! I don’t know where to start. Mick is known as the nice guy in the band.. the old guy.. the outsider who.. Nikki’s idea I’m sure but still shocked. Mick admitted like 9 years before tgis that he had a great memory. If you get the chance the quintessential Mick Mars 2-3 hour commercial free interview with Eddie Trunk circa 2015 tells you everything about Mick. Although Nikki’s always been a Conniving two faced narcissist I still would’ve expected more well for him not to do that to his Mick who he has tattooed on his thigh I think it’s his right thigh done by then gf Kat Von D As an ode to Nick*** saying I think more people should be like Mick and I think so also personally myself but I think Nikki junky or not has this selfish I am the leader there be no motley Crue without me attitude since 1981 and all the diehards know it. They’re taking advantage of Nick Planet said but because he’s getting old and he was always a pushover which is the antithesis of the other three which kind of makes some work and made the bed interesting. Just watch the movie only in real life is a lot more quiet and for Shredder very humble. That’s why the guys from Aerosmith to the women’s world were not worthy tomorrow because of the respect that it’s like old-school rock ‘n’ roll mentality of the guys who look up to being humble like Jeff Beck for instance and McMorris looked up to. I hope Mick gets his money and I hope the rest of the band get the karma which they probably already got especially Nikki especially especially Nikki you know it’s all Nikki telling the other guys what to do he probably planned a whole meeting with Tommy and Vince meal on how to fuck over the guy that carries them because like Aerosmith they are a guitar band it would be nothing without Mick Who is more relevant than Tommy musically
All of this machinery making modern music, can still be open-hearted Not so coldly charted, it's really just a question of your honesty, your honesty. Yeah! Thanks Rush
Sux is right. And i thought the Journey SS was bad. Heck, i read JP's KK Downing supported Mick. He's been dealing with stuff like this, too. Sad state of affairs.
As a long time Crüe fan of almost 4 decades, this makes me lose all respect for Nikki especially. I mean, we've always known he's an asshole, but damn. And we all know that Nikki is the one behind all the bullshit. His lack of respect is astounding. No longer a Crüe fan
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nikki was playing along to backing tracks. I've heard MANY accounts that the dude can't play to save his life. Mick carried that band's weight for the entirety of their career. I hope he comes out on top for a change!
Seen the Stadium Tour and Always Loved Nikki but as We are Watching im like Hes not Playing that Bass,His Hands were in the air ,Lets just Say Everywhere but playing the Bass,The Audience and not Vince was Singing !! Still Love Mick..Great Channel,Subbed🤘
I have met all 4 members of Motley Crue . The one person that I thought would be the biggest dick was the coolest one in the band and that was Vince !! He actually talked to to fans and showed compassion with the fans . Tommy and Nikki were dicks maybe they were having a bad day.. Mick got a pass as I could see he was in pain and I and asked for quick selfie and thanked him for all the memories !! Thanks Mick for doing that !! YOU ARE MISSED !!! ✌✌🤘🤘🎸🎸🙏🙏
It’s a corporate battle and I hope Mick gets good restitution into a simpler life. I thought they had a final contractual tour a few years ago. This is a corporate issue and most mainstream bands are corporate businesses. Blessings to Mick. 🎶
A.S. doesn't affect the mind, it's mostly back issue lots of pain and auto immune problems. I'm suprised he lasted as long as he has. Hope it all turns out that they can settle it without somebody getting screwed over.
I have AS. Nikki is a scumbag gaslighting asshole. AS affects the spine not the mind so Mick can't jump around like an idiot like rest of them. It has always made him the odd man out.
Motley Crue... life imitating art? haha "The Rocker" with Rainn Wilson, Emma Watson, Bradley Cooper, Jason Sudeikis, Christina Applegate, Jane Lynch, Fred Armison, Will Arnett, Aziz Anzari, Josh Gadd, among the many recognizable faces. Great cast. Fun, guilty pleasure, movie.
It's always sad when an iconic band ends their career with petty bickering and greed and basically tarnishing their reputation. Motley Crue and now KISS. Who's next?? Is this gonna be the trend of legendary groups now?? Always quit while you're ahead!
I've been a fan since the 80's and Mick has always been my favorite member of the band . I fell in love with Mick. He deserves to keep his 25 percent and the rest of the band should split the other 75.. Mick deserves it.
In the 80s and 90s MC was good not great but good, I enjoyed their sound and tours. (John Corabi actually gave the band some edge to their powder puff style) Never liked Nikki's bass playing, he's highly overrated. Vince's singing wasn't great but has gotten worst over the years, you can barely understand him now. Tommy isn't the best drummer not by a long shot, maybe the most flamboyant but not the best. (Thomas Lang now that's a great drummer) Mick by far is one of the most talented underrated guitarist of the metal era. He had and has a very unique distinctive playing style and sound. My wife and I were very disappointed w/ the last tour, so much special effects and Vince's lame singing. We grew up listening to MC, but hated that show so much we actually wanted our money back. You're absolutely right they should've stayed retired, I'm so tired of these geriatric bands who think they still can do it. That goes for Kiss, Aerosmith and definitely the Rolling Stones, Mick and the geriatric troop need to sit down somewhere and play with their grandkids. Oh my fault they're so old their grandkids are probably grown by now, lol.
I just watched a "live" MC clip from 2022... That Nikki is SOOOOO talented... His bass keep thumping as he points at the audience with his picking hand.. AMAZING!! Billy Sheehan and Geddy Lee can't do that!
The fact that they are on tour is an utter joke. Vince Neil cannot sing one song without wheezing. Also Vince cannot remember the words. Sad! Mick is an uncrowned guitar god.
Lets be honest here, Mick carried them for years. Some defininate scumbaggery going on. Vince Neil has been utter trash for a very long time. I hope Mick wins.
What is the Riddle of Steel?
Mick Mars is Motley Crue.
Facts
I bet Nikki is the one behind not wanting to pay him . He thinks he owns .. that band . But Mick named the band Motley Crue , is responsible for the idea of Tommy's rotating drum act , from his past band that did it first . And anyone who knows a little about music , knows Nikki didn't come up with those early guitar riffs Mick played . He didn't even know what he was doing back then . Mick did carry them
Mick is the band
Mick Mars is an absolute riff master, he's given rock and motley crue some amazing riffs, it's sad he's being treated this way.
Mick should hire guys from Crue tribute bands and form a band and name it Mick’ CRUE, kk downing did it against Judas Priest and formed Kk’s Priest
Everyone knows Mick was the heart of the band and like he said, carried their asses. This is sad.
I can't imagine paying any money to hear Vince Neil sing, unless you want a really good laugh.
Ive been a Big Fan since 1986, always wanted to see Motley Crue, Now i wouldn't go see them if the Tickets cost ONE Dollar
Exactly!! I'm sorry, but he sounds like shit now. Yes back in the day he was one of the best vocalists of his time. His voice HELPED make Motley who they are. Just as with Mick's guitar playing. He helped shape the band. They shouldn't be doing this to him. Of all members of the band, he was the most sane.
Greed is sad, Mick is one of the main reasons how they sound!! They just reduced the value of the entire bands worth to the public.
I feel for Mick Mars. It has to be difficult working with people who act like children. So many of his riffs are iconic while it feels like everyone else lags behind in talent.
Mick was definitely the "backbone" of Motley Crew, this sorry outcome is the thanks he gets!
The last band I was in, I got fired for missing one practice session. I was actually ok with it. I ended up visiting some of the venus we performed at. Each time, the venue manager stated that the band sucked without me! LOL.. Then, many of the venues ended up firing them or taking them off the rotation!
From all the articles and comments ive read, People are OVERWHELMING supporting Mick. I dont know who will win in a Court of Law, But the Court of Public Opinion has been decided, and it looks like a PR nightmare for the Crue!
Let me get this straight...even with "backing tracks" they still sound like $hit live??
I feel bad for Mick. To have the other three turn on you after being an integral part of the band. The importance of his monster tone can't be understated in regards to the sound and success of the band. He always seemed like the only leveled headed one of the bunch, and the only one to stay out of trouble/headlines. Not sure how much of the mud slinging is true on either side, but it sure is a bummer.
Yeah Mick is respected the Most, the other 3 Dummies always getting into trouble & Most Fans know this.
I just don't think he should sue, just tell his story. Tommy Nikki & Vince have done some Stupid Bullshit before & Lied But this is the Worst & The lowest of the 3 Dummies
I read the whole 29 page document that Mick Mars and his legal team submitted in the lawsuit. It's very interesting. I'm typing this as I watch, so I'm not sure if Max brought this up, but a video was also recently leaked of Mick's IEM mix and he sounded amazing. Vince on the other hand... And he didn't have any of Nikki's bass or Tommy's drums in his mix. Just the click, himself, and a whisper of Vince's vocals
Mick Mars deserves every penny of his 25% of the band. Much like Steve Perry of Journey and Don Felder of The Eagles and Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac. .
Don't give Perry that much credit. He didn't write much.
Steve Perry wrote or co-wrote every hit song Journey had during time with Journey. During his 1st solo era he had hits songs without Journey. To date, Journey has not had a hit song since he was forced out.
I saw Motley Crue on their "farewell" tour in 2015. The one they signed contracts for, promising that was really it. LOL. Vince was so sad even then. Any high high note, the mic went toward the crowd to them them do the work. Everyone knows poor Mick has been living with his medical condition. This sucks, man.
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@@blacklikethesun You don't even know what you're laughing t duhh!!
I agree with everything you said Max. Even if Mars messed up playing live, NO ONE would care because they know he has a condition! I would just be super stoked he is playing anyways!
Sadly this kind of shit happens too often in the music business! Everyone loses and friendships are ruined, all over money. Sad.
They weren’t very good friends anyways. At the end of the fair well tour, they unfriended eachother like the next day.
I'm glad I was able to see Crue's original lineup last year but you're right. If anyones performance should be questioned, it's Vince's. Absolute low-light of the night. Mick's playing was top notch!
I stand with Mick...
In 1988 MC cancelled their shows in London “due to fears about the weight of snow on the roof of Wembley Arena”. Truth was there hadn’t been any snow, but Sixx did have a heroin overdose and wasn’t able to play. I wouldn’t believe a word that bunch of clowns says. Good luck to Mick. 🤘
Yeah, I had a ticket for that show...
Motley Crue was one of the popular bands my classmates loved in the 80s. Sad to see them end up this way.
Crüe came out retirement because of the success of The Dirt. All the sudden their fan base grew by millions of new people. I would have cashed in also.
It seems fit that they go out on a note that isn't even played.....
I really feel for Mick, the whole thing with his health problems, it really sucks. I think the best way MC could have handled this would've been to completely disband MC all together, then start a new band with John 5. That's what they should have done. This way, there's a clean break with everything and everyone, and no need to drag everyone's legacy through the mud of litigation. I agree, it's an ugly way to go out.
Reminds me of all the in-fighting within Van Halen. Two great bands torn apart witrh a bunch of "he said - he said." Can't they just play their music without all the personal b.s.?
I can't imagine why anyone would want to go see a Motley Crue live show in 2023 or beyond. A truly (unfixable) mess!
Cause it's the ultimate shit show, you're not going for the music. You're going to watch a train wreck which is entertaining in and of itself.
Without Mick there won't be a Motley Crue
There is. They're now touring with John 5.
Vince Neil's performance with Motley Crue is a super intense Rock and Metal extravaganza. It's unbelievably physically demanding. Between songs, and sometimes between verses, he has roadies provide him critical sustenance in the form of ice cream sandwiches dipped in pancake syrup, "Vince Neil Minestrone" (a special soup of bacon fat, chopped hot dogs, cheese whiz, vanilla cake icing and scrapple), and rotisserie chicken. Vince needs backing tapes for his vocals because sometimes he's chewing. I for one, am tired of people who don't understand what a genius and God of rock this man is. Stop the criticism.
Choice
You forgot the Diet Coke with that.. LOL
Mick should read Don Felder's book ASAP.
Wasn't Don Felder's book called 'How to Get What's Rightfully Yours From a Bunch Of Greedy Shits'? LOL
SO they want Mars to give up 25% of forever revenue for 7.5% of tomorrow's revenue. Yeah id tell them to pound sand.
Mick Mars did carry those guys for years. He may be struggling with AS, but he still can play just as good, if not better, than any of the other members of Motley Crue. He deserves more respect than what the has shown him as of late. I saw the 2022 North American Stadium Tour when they played Fenway Park in Boston, on August 6th. The sound was "not as good" as it should have been (and that was because in Massachusetts, concert tours are required to use local union sound technicians, and they are not familiar with how the bands craft their individual sound...but that's another issue). Even though the sound was "sub-par", I have to say, Def Leppard was "on top of their game", and put on an amazing show. I cannot say the same for Motley Crew. They were sloppy, they missed notes and chords, and they just didn't sound like you would hope they would, when you shell out big money to see them live. Vince Neil can't even sing anymore. He either forgets the lyrics, or just takes very noticeable short cuts while trying to "get through" a song. Vince, the words are..."SHOUT AT THE DEVIL", not "Shout the Devil"! Even during their performance, I said to my girlfriend..."they should have just stayed retired", because they are all washed up and just don't have it anymore. Glad I got to see the tour, and Def Leppard, just very disappointed about Motley Crue, and shelling out $225.00 a ticket to see it.
without Micks guitar I would never have listened to them.
They should give fans money back, and charged with fraud with intent to make money.
They’re like the Monkees now
AGREED!
why Bother? the could put out a statement & or even have it on a Sign at the show "we use backing Tracks"
and people will still GO. the word is Out. ive been a Crue fan since 1986, always wanted to see them Live,
Now i wouldn't go see Motley crue if the Tickets were ONE Dollar.
Agree and who would go and see a rock band with a guy who got his gitar under his armpit? Really? Not very cool even if he can play. I would not spend a dime on a recording rockband.
My inclination is to conclude that Mic does not owe Tommy, Vince and Nikki one penny in advances and that this rebuttal claim from their attorney is fanciful. It's easy to sympathize with him regarding his position. I have been where he is on an infinitesimal scale. I've never played with any rock band that had real professional aspirations or incentives like Crue unless it came down to classic American cheap talk) but I definitely was in Mic's precise position regarding the obligation to carry other band members whose capabilities were questionable at best and mediocre at most but who got a lot of undue credit for things that I was responsible for. Factor in that I may not have a spinal disorder the way he does but am legally blind, and that gives me more clout to sympathize with him over the others. They were upset that he needed to stop, and they probably attacked him for nonexistent musical shortcomings out of fear that he might do what he has done and blow the whistle on their own inequities.
It might only be a spitball on my part, but I think there is more of a case for Mic than there is for the others or their attorney. From what little I have gleaned about the individual Crue members, Mic strikes me as the one with the least ego out of all four. That makes the notion that this is even taking place much more disappointing and tragic.
MC has always been a joke but this is the ultimate clown fest if I've ever seen a one.
Yes, clown fest describes it best. It reminds me of the South Park episode with Moop.
When the band first debuted in the 80's they looked like girls with make up. Vince Neil said at the time, "We look like girls but we can kick your ass" Vince later beat up a whore at a Nevada brothel for overcharging him.
Carnival Of Clowns
Lol... being theyre playing stadiums 40 years later. Yeah cuz theyre clowns.
Its not 1994 anymore. Nobody cares if bands are actually playing. Good lord theyre in their 60s playing stadiums. Theres not a a 60+ yr old rocknroll vocalist in the history of earth who wouldnt hv to sing w tracks. The vocal cords give out quicker than the arm of 45 yr old NFL QB.
I think that many years ago in an interview, Vince said something like that everybody loves the music part but everyone hates the business part of music.
you can see and hear the pantomiming in every video since the pandemic, and Nikki is almost guaranteed to be projecting his own cognitive issues from the years of iv drug and alcohol abuse . Vince is too easy to make fun of, and Tommy is just his usual money hungry self going along with the paycheck. It's sad to see, but eerily appropriate for Mötley. I kinda hope the other three lose their relevance and fade into obscurity after this.
It will be settled out of court. Details will not be allowed to be discussed in public.
This is really sad, and I think there has been precedences. VH forced Michael Anthony to sign off on his royalties, the Eagles forced out their original bassist and guitar player (except Don Felder) and took away the profits from them.
They did fire Felder, too, though. Joe Walsh also earns from his solo catalog.
@@georgeprice4212 right, but Don Felder didn't quit like Bernie and Randy... Kind of sad !!!!
Why isn't anyone taking the time to give Max some love. Hit those thumbs up and help him out for his work. He takes the time to entertain and inform us. Take time (less than a second) to say thanx and help his channel.
I saw Vince live in 96 and even then his voice was shot! Kiss has been doing it for 25 years and people keep paying top dollar to see a light & pyro show!
Yup saw them in ‘99 same thing but band sounded amazing
@@mountaindewman-ky4nw 'Backing Tracks' can do wonders trust me lol!
Regarding wanting to replace Mick since 87, not sure about this but as we all are not privy to the facts what I can say as a FACT is when MC were convinced by their management to re-unite for the 'Carnival of Sins 1996 Tour' the doco on all of this is on line and available, the band [it seems to me] did EVERYTHING and more to first actually 'find' MM, and then after meetings between all/management it was decided Mick enter rehab/then have a hip operation to bring him back to being somewhat healthy given his spinal condition - but able to start rehearsals and then complete that huge tour. MC at this point were still using Sixx mainly as backing vocals and it was prior to recorded backing vocals being put in place. Anyone can watch the concerts and see Sixx 'is' singing. Vince is physically is ok shape, he was up until Crue Fest 1+2, but the 'End Tour' was both a disgrace/embarrassment for Vince, a bloated arrogant front man who could not even complete songs. Fast forward to the 'Stadium Tour', where Crue demanded stupendous financial payments, and the band they're currently touring with Def Leppard - who have NEVER used backing tracks, DL's bassist/twin guitarists ALL sing, a quirk 'Mutt' Lange taught Collen/Sav with, Viv is arguably 'the' strongest vocally but with Def Leppard you get 100% pure 'live' hard rock. For the 'Stadium Tour' the promoters inserted a VERY strict rider Vince 'had' to shed weight but even now Vince is still imo way overweight - hence vocal tracking on 'some' songs which he simply cannot complete on his own without help.
Speaking as a LLB student and a Crue Head first thing for me is I am disgusted in the way Mick's been treated and I don't need an opinion poll to tell 'me' the OVERWHELMING majority of Crue fans agree with me. Sixx, although a genius as a song writer has always been the 'leader' of MC. Sixx 'has', well over a decade ago admitted the band uses backing vocals, the 2 chicks you see are NOT singing like the original 2 'Nasty Habits', one of which Mick married and has since passed away. Vince and Lee are not smart enough to pull this off, Lee has TDS and never really established social skills as Phil Lewis arguably rightly notes, Sixx also is the same although he's more travelled/marginally socially mature and Sixx is utterly ruthless, and full of shit on key parts of his FF/MC life. One FACT is simple - Sixx has been enamoured with 5 for a decade +. Sixx has always wanted 5 in the band and to me, trying to sort the facts from the spin - Sixx used Mick's physical condition as a pre text. Sixx is shameless. This is the bloke who said if the band ever toured again [after their contract signing] "I would have SO much egg on my face", verbatim quote. I see greed nowadays as the ONLY driver for Sixx and the band. In Vince's autobiography he openly states he'd love "fuck you money". Well, the band now have this with imo Paul Stanley type spin and denial, and pure BS. I 'do' feel sorry for John 5. He's now been thrown into a mess and the entire fan base and world are watching. I just want so bad for Mick's solo project to come out, it has been a LONG time waiting. Apologies ALL for the word length. A lot I kept out but Mick imo is owed fans feedback.
It’s just weird how they had booked studio time and a producer to work on new music around the time the lawsuit came out . So mick was never coming back
This shit show is getting better by the day, I love it! Never thought I'd ever be so interested in the Crue!
I lip sync all my drum parts.
And Rob Rock is said to be doing the Bass on Crue's new album music resources are claiming. Same dude who did the Bass on St. Anger after Jason Newsted left.
What do I think? Money. The shit slinging and pointing fingers all comes down to the money. And I find that really, really sad. I totally agree with Max that Motley Crue's legacy ending on this note is also really sad.
I didn’t follow the band growing up and didn’t really become a fan until Dr. Feel good, so I don’t know all the history, but to be around so long, there MUST’VE been a time when they were friends. I just can’t believe it’s devolved into this.
What this all boils down to is, they have tried to oust mick for years! An they had all this planned with john 5... nikki an J5 have been friends for years now.. an they dont want to pay mick for there future tours.. so nikki ,vince, tommy an john 5 have went into the studio to overdub all micks parts.. an writing new album.. hoping this is a way out for them.. but the reality is, they have no choice but to pay mick for every song up to now! Cause hes on every one of them.. so since hes a founding member an owns 25% of the band he has say so, an they hate that! An they have to pay him every time they do a show playing any of the material he helped write an played on.. an its no secret vince, nikki, tommy all pissed away there fortunes on drugs women an booze an thats why they want to tour again!! To pay for all the big houses an divorces and alimony, child support they have to pay an dont want to have to pay mick an john 5.. so for there own greed they are screwing over a long time friend, fellow musician an founder of the band, who without they literally would be nothing!! The only reason they an their lawyers have chosen mud slinging about his age an memory is a cheap an dirty way to take full control of his portion, kinda like a kid taking his parents to court for everything by having them declared incompetent!! An thats what they are trying to do!! An i believe mick! Yea nikki can play, but hes not a very good bass player.. cause hes kinda like micheal Anthony in a way, cause eddie said he used to show mike the parts he wanted him to play, though mike was a very good bass player!! An the parts he played in van halen weren't technically sophisticated he got the job done! An he had his massive vocals! What does nikki have? Hmm? His vocals aren't very good an neither is his bass playing! An id say mick probably did have to show nikki his parts! But all that aside, what they are doing to mick is like alex, Mike, an david or sammy(depends on you ya like)throwing out eddie!! In Motley Crue Mick Mars was Eddie VanHalen!! Often imitated but will never be duplicated! He has more fire an passion than most musicians half his age! I wish that i could play as good as mick on his worst day, much less when hes feeling like fighting rooster at his age of 71yrs old! So my heart goes out to mick, an i hope that he finds peace an happiness through this.. Bless you Mick an long live the legend that is mick mars!!
Finding out that they are faking the instrumentation really disturbs me. My first concert was Motley Crue/Whitesnake on the Girls, Girls, Girls tour at Joe Lewis Arena. The energy was amazing. I'll be so disappointed if I find out they aren't really playing. How long has that been going on?
I was there 🤘🤘
They were playing back then. But they’ve been faking their shows at least since 2005
We shouldn’t be too upset.
Can you imagine the great mercy, of not having to suffer through a entire set of utterly unco-ordinated & off-everything noises being blasted through a top line PA system? 😖
I Understand what Mick is going through for I too have (pronounced) ANK LEE OSING, Spond A LITIS if that helps MAX for it is very painful to do just normal everyday tasks let alone tour up on your feet for hours like Mick is so I'm definitely on team Mick
I think pretty much everyone is. Without him, they'd wouldn't have achieved the success they did. He's a core part of their signature sound.
All this is back firing on them, their egos are rediculous, they actually think they can just do this to Mick and move on with no repercussions! Amazing😂
They wanted John 5 obviously but Mick was the only guy with a good head on his shoulders and you would have to think they just handled it poorly for Mick to do what he's doing.
Heartbreaking stuff, man. When the hell are we gonna see you on tour?!
Motley Crue is the original pop rock.
Vince Neil was always a faker.
Never understood those who held this band in high esteem. Train wrecks are not something to aspire to.
If Vince is using backing tracks, why does it sound so bad? Why wouldn't they use good sounding tracks? That's what makes me skeptical
Real American hero we salute you Motley Crue for Jacking up ticket prices & not giving a real show this Buds Lites for you Mr Heavy Metal Glam band.
They retired a few years ago. They should do a nursing home tour.
The WHO started their Farewell Tour in 1982 ... they're still playing.
Motley's got another 35+ years to go. 😂
@@danielfair4675 funny 😄 and probably true
I remember their 1st album...my friend and me were in a record store (yup, that old) searching for new metal bands to listen to and came across that girl band that looked hot (picture of the dudes was tiny, for our defense) then we had a shock wondering why the singer sang that high with all the jokes that comes with that fact :) Good times Saw them at verdun auditorium in Mtl Qc Can in what, 84?
I honestly don't care. I do take Mick's side, in the sense that he was perfectly capable of performing live (especially in relation to Vince's awful caterwauling), but this line up wasn't going to do any new material, so that immediately disparages them of any relevance. I mean, c'mon, they're basically a greatest hits jukebox now, so why should I care? And yes, I know they want to do new music now with John 5, and that's cool, but DON'T call it Motley Crue.
They're a bunch of hypocrites. Way to go out on top. They should have left well enough alone. I guess you got to pay the bill's though.
Honestly mick was the coolest thing about motley crew...
Their first two albums were their best and they've lived off those two their whole career, just like GnR with Appetite for Destruction.
Rubbish. Their live playlists always contain songs from ALL of their albums. Stop talking nonsense.
@@motleydude73 Your comment is RUBBISH, has absolutely nothing to do with my original comment, go back and reread it!
@@srh361 Firstly, saying their first two albums were their best is purely your opinion and entirely subjective. Secondly, with Dr Feelgood being their most commercially successful album they 'live off' that one more-so than the others. Financially at least.
@@motleydude73 And your comments are purely your opinion as well. I guess Saints of Los Angeles was great album? Actually, musicically Motley '94 was their best but....
@@srh361 IMO Saints was pretty good. Raw dirty rock. Is that not what they're known for? 94 was their worst album commercially. Nobody liked Corabi, not even the Crue 😅
At this point I don't think it really matters. Motley has been a drama fest for 30 years. On top or on the Bottom I don't think public opinion will matter on how they go out. It's been written in stone since Vince left back in the 90's.
Good stuff Max, I’m pretty sure the Rebellion Sixx came from to immediate stardom,fame and fortune at that age, he as well as Tommy never really had to develop social skills that incorporate empathy..these clowns made great music, but have never grown up. Mick was grown up before the fame and fortune,,he’s the only sound mind.
Mick is the one that kept this band together, he was older than everyone else and had a family and knew what he wanted in life and made good life decisions, which cant be said for the rest of the Crue, pun intended. I saw them for Girls tour in 87 ish? when I was 14 or so, they were great, then I saw them again for Dr Pheelgewd. He is the one reason that this band has as much as they do!
I met mick when I was a teen. He was such a nice person and told creeps around to leave me alone.
Motley Crue is the best example as to why bands should never reunite.
Agreed 100% to everything said in this video! Really is sad. MC was amazing back in their day. Shoulda went out with a bang. Especially after “The Dirt” came out and revamped their popularity.
They did go out with a bang...a pre-recorded bang.
I find Mick Mars owing the band money laughable.. The rest of them drug addict alcoholics show boats blew more money than just about any other rock band in history. Mick Mars just sat and watched them implode and now gets accused of owing them millions lol.. I am willing to bet it would be the other way around!
What do I think about it ? It's just a shame , no doubt lawyers are just going to lie , Mojo Nixon "Destroy all lawyers" and I'm sure I could quote a lot of others in this unfortunate case , "Misery Business" ect. The bottom line is my heart goes out to Mick Mars and I certainly feel disenfranchised from my own life's work , enough said ✌️
I hate drama. I hate celebrity drama. I do love rock and roll and 'Crue has some killer rock N roll songs. I only watched this video because I love your voice. And your hair, Guitar MAX.
Those guys turned on mick and stabbed him in the back along with there greedy ass manager.! I hope mick wins his case against them... They should be ashamed of themselves but they are not unfortunately... I feel they've ripped the fans off by pretending to play their instruments.! Mick was the only dude playing live and that goes for John 5 as well
Tell him to get good ol’ Diamond Dave on the phone and get some advice. Maybe Gary and Mitch, too.
Great update! Mick owes them $$??!! I don’t know where to start. Mick is known as the nice guy in the band.. the old guy.. the outsider who.. Nikki’s idea I’m sure but still shocked. Mick admitted like 9 years before tgis that he had a great memory. If you get the chance the quintessential Mick Mars 2-3 hour commercial free interview with Eddie Trunk circa 2015 tells you everything about Mick. Although Nikki’s always been a Conniving two faced narcissist I still would’ve expected more well for him not to do that to his Mick who he has tattooed on his thigh I think it’s his right thigh done by then gf Kat Von D As an ode to Nick*** saying I think more people should be like Mick and I think so also personally myself but I think Nikki junky or not has this selfish I am the leader there be no motley Crue without me attitude since 1981 and all the diehards know it. They’re taking advantage of Nick Planet said but because he’s getting old and he was always a pushover which is the antithesis of the other three which kind of makes some work and made the bed interesting. Just watch the movie only in real life is a lot more quiet and for Shredder very humble. That’s why the guys from Aerosmith to the women’s world were not worthy tomorrow because of the respect that it’s like old-school rock ‘n’ roll mentality of the guys who look up to being humble like Jeff Beck for instance and McMorris looked up to. I hope Mick gets his money and I hope the rest of the band get the karma which they probably already got especially Nikki especially especially Nikki you know it’s all Nikki telling the other guys what to do he probably planned a whole meeting with Tommy and Vince meal on how to fuck over the guy that carries them because like Aerosmith they are a guitar band it would be nothing without Mick Who is more relevant than Tommy musically
All of this machinery making modern music, can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted, it's really just a question of your honesty, your honesty. Yeah!
Thanks Rush
Oh F..k off! Be original why don't you?
Police Scanner Max 👍🏻
So Sad we have become Sue Krazy 😢
Sux is right. And i thought the Journey SS was bad.
Heck, i read JP's KK Downing supported Mick. He's been dealing with stuff like this, too.
Sad state of affairs.
They used to say "there's no such thing as bad publicity." Does that apply to todays internet information age?
As a long time Crüe fan of almost 4 decades, this makes me lose all respect for Nikki especially. I mean, we've always known he's an asshole, but damn. And we all know that Nikki is the one behind all the bullshit. His lack of respect is astounding. No longer a Crüe fan
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nikki was playing along to backing tracks. I've heard MANY accounts that the dude can't play to save his life. Mick carried that band's weight for the entirety of their career. I hope he comes out on top for a change!
Mick is the sound of Motley. Nikki and Tommy are the biggest wastes of space. John 5 is just a puppet.
Motley Crue Lawasuit ? ( let me FIX that Title for ya )
Mick Mars VS. 3 Dummies
Kiss had done it twice just like the Crue.
They need to give Mick Mars the Respect he deserves for what he's done and quit arguing. Do some studio work.
Sad.....very sad.
Is their anything that’s not fake anymore?
Seen the Stadium Tour and Always Loved Nikki but as We are Watching im like Hes not Playing that Bass,His Hands were in the air ,Lets just Say Everywhere but playing the Bass,The Audience and not Vince was Singing !! Still Love Mick..Great Channel,Subbed🤘
No Mick Mars, no Motley Crue.
They threw Mick scraps and they stab him in the back. Ungrateful ingrates!
I have met all 4 members of Motley Crue . The one person that I thought would be the biggest dick was the coolest one in the band and that was Vince !! He actually talked to to fans and showed compassion with the fans . Tommy and Nikki were dicks maybe they were having a bad day.. Mick got a pass as I could see he was in pain and I and asked for quick selfie and thanked him for all the memories !! Thanks Mick for doing that !! YOU ARE MISSED !!! ✌✌🤘🤘🎸🎸🙏🙏
It’s a corporate battle and I hope Mick gets good restitution into a simpler life. I thought they had a final contractual tour a few years ago. This is a corporate issue and most mainstream bands are corporate businesses. Blessings to Mick. 🎶
The one who must be out, is Vince Neil... saw him in MTL Canada, a real joke and a full Price !!!
Controversy, controversy, controversy! What's new with Motley Crue?
They should have stayed in retirement !
A.S. doesn't affect the mind, it's mostly back issue lots of pain and auto immune problems. I'm suprised he lasted as long as he has. Hope it all turns out that they can settle it without somebody getting screwed over.
I have AS. Nikki is a scumbag gaslighting asshole. AS affects the spine not the mind so Mick can't jump around like an idiot like rest of them. It has always made him the odd man out.
Motley Crue... life imitating art? haha "The Rocker" with Rainn Wilson, Emma Watson, Bradley Cooper, Jason Sudeikis, Christina Applegate, Jane Lynch, Fred Armison, Will Arnett, Aziz Anzari, Josh Gadd, among the many recognizable faces. Great cast. Fun, guilty pleasure, movie.
It's always sad when an iconic band ends their career with petty bickering and greed and basically tarnishing their reputation. Motley Crue and now KISS. Who's next?? Is this gonna be the trend of legendary groups now?? Always quit while you're ahead!
I've been a fan since the 80's and Mick has always been my favorite member of the band . I fell in love with Mick. He deserves to keep his 25 percent and the rest of the band should split the other 75.. Mick deserves it.
In the 80s and 90s MC was good not great but good, I enjoyed their sound and tours. (John Corabi actually gave the band some edge to their powder puff style) Never liked Nikki's bass playing, he's highly overrated. Vince's singing wasn't great but has gotten worst over the years, you can barely understand him now. Tommy isn't the best drummer not by a long shot, maybe the most flamboyant but not the best. (Thomas Lang now that's a great drummer)
Mick by far is one of the most talented underrated guitarist of the metal era. He had and has a very unique distinctive playing style and sound. My wife and I were very disappointed w/ the last tour, so much special effects and Vince's lame singing. We grew up listening to MC, but hated that show so much we actually wanted our money back.
You're absolutely right they should've stayed retired, I'm so tired of these geriatric bands who think they still can do it. That goes for Kiss, Aerosmith and definitely the Rolling Stones, Mick and the geriatric troop need to sit down somewhere and play with their grandkids. Oh my fault they're so old their grandkids are probably grown by now, lol.
I just watched a "live" MC clip from 2022... That Nikki is SOOOOO talented... His bass keep thumping as he points at the audience with his picking hand.. AMAZING!! Billy Sheehan and Geddy Lee can't do that!
The fact that they are on tour is an utter joke. Vince Neil cannot sing one song without wheezing. Also Vince cannot remember the words. Sad! Mick is an uncrowned guitar god.
If you have plenty of money and plenty of ego, you have the potential to make some very rich lawyers even richer....
Ta Max.
Mick's right. There is no Motley Crue without him.