Whatever Happened to Fake Ginger - Judith Baldwin
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I actually thought both "fake Gingers" did well; Judith and Constance captured the essence of the character well. Pity that Tina didn't return but it was her choice and the show did continue to do well without her. So really a win-win all around. Great video, Dave; nice to see these REALLY obscure bits of TV trivia explored!
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Thanks for the comment, Ravenscroft82!
@@jdsundstrom I heared about the TV cover bottom line is the people in charge of TV Guide only wanted Tina and Bob on the cover but he fought to get Dawn on it as well... Dawn herself said at time she was happy and Excited to be on the cover of TV Guide.........the picture was taken but she got the shock of her life when she was cut out of the picture and only Tina and Bob were on the Cover..........Dawn was so disappointed and Bob himself was angry at the Snub she got he really let both Sherwood Schwartz and the people in charge of TV Guide how he felt with the situation.. they only agreed to have both women on the cover with Bob...so he would do the picture.....he had refused to do it unless Dawn was in the picture. dispite the outcome it proved the type of person Bob Denver was...he cared about the Cast he thought all the cast was important....which is why he fought to get Dawn Wells and Russll Johnson's name on the intro song.
Gimme da real Ginger, da fake Ginger and Mary Ann too!! Okay, I gotta calm down. Thx for keeping my TV memories alive, Dave!
Team Mary Ann here.
I'm all about Mrs. " Lovie " Howell! Biz zow!
I'll take Dawn Wells for the Win. ;)
Actually my Hollywood Squares, tic tac toe, is Dawn, Dianna Rigg and Yvonne Craig, Bat Girl!
Cheers from Montreal Quebec Canada
She had the impossible job of replacing a iconic beauty.
While it was a shame that Tina chose not to return for the reunion movies, I thought Judith did a wonderful job. Constance was fine in the last movie, but I think Judith captured the essence of the character a bit better. As always, Dave, your channel is terrific; thanks for bringing the nostalgia!
Thanks for the comment...and the kind words, Jason!
Thanks for the "bonus", classic commercials, Dave. I always love seeing old commercials. I wouldn't doubt that I have seem most or all of these, but the only one that I specifically remember is the Bubalicious commercial.
I'm glad you enjoyed the vintage commercials. I love watching them as well. They really take me back to a simpler time.
Dave,
I know that you'll be tempted to shorten this presentation; however, my suggestion would be not to shorten this presentation when it goes out to The general public....
You have done a wonderful job using the time within this presentation to allow both women to have equal time. - they both deserve it!
Strong presentation;
Thanks for the kind words, John! I truly appreciate all your support. 🙂
cool! I remember her in the Escape to Gillgans Island. She played a good Ginger. I didn't realize she was in other tv shows/movies. always fun to watch
The Gilligan's Island reunion movies were the best of the reunion movies.
📺Great video Dave and actually there were two fake Gingers in The Gilligans Island tv movies not just one! Judith Baldwin in Rescue From Gilligans Island and The Castaways Of Gilligans Island. Constance Forslund portrayed Ginger in The Harlem Globetrotters On Gilligans Island. 🏝🥥🛥🏀
Nice retrospective Dave. I'm sure Judith would have appreciated being remembered.
I'm pretty sure that Judith is still with us. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, Doug.
@@jdsundstrom Oops, meant to use the present tense. PS: Am I correct in that Judith and Tina, the two Gingers, are the last surviving cast members?
At least Ginger was mentioned in the original theme song: "A movie star.."
To this day, (and for the last 60 years), when we go on a long drive for shopping, visiting, or whatever, we say we are going on a three hour tour. I guess the show made an impression on us!
Thanks Dave. Just like Certs, we had two, two, two Gingers in one show!
I wish I could find on RUclips the funny commercial Tina Louise did in the late 70s for a brand of frozen pies! She did a similar "take it from Tina" line and praised it for being something for "girls with no time to cook!" Haha!
I haven't seen that one!
Tina Louise and Dawn Wells appeared in a commercial for the TV game show, Jeopardy.
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As always, Dave, your production was heartwarming and relatable (and I mean that!); The "Fake Ginger," Judith Baldwin, was an outstanding actress, and it was relatable because those were great days to be a kid (1960s)! The more I see your creations, the more I realize how important your "hobby" is. These TV shows, that era's music, those great stars, those 'Foxxy ladies,' and other artists have been decades and will forever remain a big part of our lives/memories; you help return us to that younger sweeter time. (Edit: I almost forgot to mention how much *I LOVE THE oldish COMMERCIALS!* talk about a memory jogger!! 😊 )
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad my videos bring back those sweet memories for you.
It's always been about the wonderful Mary Ann, for me!
I wonder what customer service would say if someone came to the store to return a roll of Certs breath mints.
That image from the unaired pilot, I cannot imagine ANYONE else other than Russell Johnson as THE PROFESSOR!
Agreed. Tough to see anyone else playing either character.
I agree with you. Russell Johnson was perfect as The Professor.
🚣♂Dawn Wells would however take on the role of Ginger Grant in the animated incarnation Gilligans Planet (1982-1983) with a blonde👱♀Ginger LOL! And Jayne Webb would provide the voices of both Ginger and Mary Ann for The New Adventures Of Gilligan cartoon (1974-1975).🏝🛥🥥⛵
Now I remember "Gilligan's Planet," but I don't recall the other animated series
I hated Gilligan's Planet. Absolutely unwatchable, imo.
By the way, that was Sarah Rafferty (Suits) pictured with Judy from their Six Feet Under appearance.
Thanks for sharing, Pryce.
Loved Judith in 1984’s “No Small Affair”!
Thanks for the video Dave. I liked Baldwin's portrayal of Ginger Grant. And I was one if those kids who raced home to see Gilligan's Island. Thanks again!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Clinton.
That hairspray commercial Tina is in looks like she on the set of "The Stepford Wives"
Wow remember all those commercials. Liked Certs, and sorry I lost my full collection of Circus during Sandy...thatvand lot of other collections
Tina Louise had a recurring role on “Dallas” as J.R.’s secretary, Julie Grey, that was around the time both Gilligan’s Island reunion movies were filmed.
I remember that. However, I don't understand why she couldn't play Ginger again if she was also willing to do TV commercials.
@@jdsundstrom Tina wanted the same amount of to play Ginger that the entire cast was getting combined
She had a very good play Ginger I didn't mind at all the original but she made those movie special and also thank you for showing those commercials bring back good memories❤🤗👏👍🙏♥️
In the Certs ad, the gentleman in the commercial looks and sounds like Marcy's 1st husband from Married With Children.
It is David Garrison, who played Steve Rhoades on Married With Children
That's what I was thinking as well.
Wow! I didn't know she had such a long career of note.
When Tina and Judith met on the set of The Stepford Wives, little did they know...😉
The guy in the Certs commercial was David Garrison, who would go on to some acting fame as Steve Rhoades, Marcy's first husband and next door neighbor to Al Bundy on Married... with Children.
I thought it looked like David Garrison...but I wasn't certain because the commercial aired in 1978.
Very interesting, I never knew that there was a "fake" Ginger!
Tina Louise played Sappho, the ancient Greek poet, in one movie,forgot the title.
She was also in The Stepford Wives (1974.)
Leave it to you Dave to again do a great nostalgic video!
I am amazed at your Creativity!😊👍
Thanks Mike. I truly appreciate the kind words.
In 1978 Tina was initially a series regular on the first season of Dallas. Her character never caught on and she disappeared soon enough, but at the time she may have been committed to filming the show and simply didn't have time to appear in the movie too.
I don't think I would consider her a series regular...it was a very small role.
@@cedarledgepublishing ... Well, recurring role at least. She was more than just a one and done guest star. I don't know. I haven't seen it in 40 years!
@@PhysicalMediaPreventsWea-bx1zm Jock's secretary I believe until someone murdereded her...no idea who it was now...could have been JR himself LOL
8:25 I never saw "Human Feelings". Was it as good as you'd expect a show with Nancy Walker and Billy Crystal to be.
I haven't seen it either. I would like to but I've never seen it available anywhere.
Why don't they restore a laugh track to those movies so they won't feel weird.
I agree. I think they finally did in the 3rd movie.
I forgot all about Fake Ginger and how sad to lose both your parents at such a young age
Yep. That had to be so darn difficult. Thanks for the comment, Jack.
I had no idea that Judith was such a prolific actress. Kudos to her for taking on the "Ginger" role. No doubt, she took a lot of criticism by way of comparison. Who would want that?
Good point!
Having a fake Ginger and Jan Brady, just lets the air out of reunion specials.
And there was a fake Marcia, too!
@jc9716 When was Marcia replaced??
I knew that Eve Plum didn't reprise the role in a lot of the "The Brady Bunch" TV movies, but when did they do the same with Maureen Mccormick as Marcia??
Maureen didn't appear in the short-lived CBS dramedy, "The Bradys".
All three Brady girls were replaced at one time or another. Susan Olsen did not appear in A Very Brady Christmas (1988) because she had already planned a Jamaican trip for her honeymoon so she was replaced by "Fake Cindy" Jennifer Runyon. Leah Ayers became "Fake Marcia" in The Bradys 1990 TV series because Maureen McCormick had just become a new mother and wanted to stay home with her infant daughter. And of course there was the infamous"Fake Jan" Geri Reischl who at this point is almost better known than Eve Plumb!
Fake Jan was better than the real Jan.
I was originally on Team Mary Ann. But when I became a free agent I signed with Team Ginger and have been there ever since.
Judith is a very beautiful woman who had a fabulous career ( thanks Tina Louise) by the way the cartoon Bob's Burgers two children have the names Tina and Louise in homage to Gilligan's island Dave!😂💕
The Circus Magazine commercial was great!
Yah...I love that one too.
Since Tina and Judith are still alive, this could only mean one thing: “Catfight for Ginger on Giligan’s Island”, coming this fall to FOX!
Can't wait! 🤣😀🙂
Taking over an iconic role that's closely associated with another actor not something I'd want to do, at least not without that actors public endorsement. .
Problem with Judith, is she's the only one from the other cast members to NOT AGE.
Judith Baldwin was the youngest cast member.
And yes, she is still beautiful.
i saw the unaired pilot of giligans island, dave.
Nice!
Team Mrs. Howell here!
Awesome 🎉
Tina is the only one left
Tina Louise is now 90 years old.
Since I've Always been team Maryanne,
I didn't miss Tina Louise (Ginger) at all! That said I think Judith did great as Ginger and actually gave the character warmth ,depth and relatability Tina'a lacked
🤘 MARYANNE 4 LIFE🤘
Kinda like when Bewitched changed Darrens!! Sometimes, characters even disappear!!
Remember "Chuck Cunningham"?? Richie's older brother who vanished w\o explanation ?
On the Flintstones, 2 different Guys voiced Barney!!
Oh yah...I remember when Richie's older brother vanished. That bugged me so much that I made a video about it! ruclips.net/video/UQfuYtLuV-M/видео.html
Some people think having a FINAL episode hurts a show in syndication anyway. Apparently, it was that way with _The Fugitive_. Because "the running stopped" in the final episode, it killed the suspense of the show afterward.
If _Gilligan's Island_ had been given a real series finale, would it have been as successful in syndication?
Wow! That's a great question, Chris!
She became a spokes model. I have a feeling Dawn preferred working with Baldwin.
I think you're probably right.
@@jdsundstrom One thing is for certain Giligans Island is over do for the Axel Braun treatment. 🤫🤭
That's David Garrison on the Certs commercial, many years before he was Steve on _Married with Children_.
I thought it was...but I wasn't sure because the commercial was from the late 70s.
@@jdsundstrom If it's not David Garrison, it's really good impression.
Garrison was born in 1952. He's done a lot more work on stage than on television. He left the show because he missed the theater.
I was seven years old when they made the _Rescue_ movie, so I didn't notice any difference.
I wonder why they had the movie on NBC. _Gilligan's Island_ was on CBS. Maybe it was because NBC was in the ratings basement? Maybe it was Sherwood Schwartz was mad at CBS for how they cancelled the show?
Possibly. Or, maybe NBC was just the highest bidder for the project.
Good video. Have not seen videos lately. Yes she's really did get sold a false bill of goods. She did playing roll well.
Who do people argue about more??
Ginger Vs. Marie Anne
Kirk Vs. Picard
Agent 99 Vs Emma Peel
Joel Robinson Vs Mike Dawson Vs. Combs
Wilma Vs. Betty
(Just to end with a Curve)
This is fun! I Like this Channel :)
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I don’t know 🤷♂️ if fake Ginger is rather cold 🥶 blooded but it would’ve been appropriate to call her replacement Ginger. Judith Baldwin did what she had to do as an actress. They weren’t just going to pick anyone for the part of Ginger because Judith was a very talented actress. I’m sure the fans loved 🥰 her as well. What counts was that the movie 🎥 of the Castaways was made. Instead of calling her Fake Ginger it’s what it is because they selected a beautiful woman 👩 to be the replacement Ginger, which happened to Judith Baldwin.
When I say "Fake Ginger", I mean it in only the kindest way. The same way that I do with "Fake Jan", Geri Reischl. They are both awesome...but, as you more diplomatically stated, they were replacements. Since you watched the video, you know that I am a huge fan of Judith's and in no way was trying to be "cold-blooded". 🙂
I am still mad at Tina Louise because her lawsuit said the Return Movies and the Cartoons couldn't be mistaken for her likeness, so it just ruined these projects. I do however think Return to Gillian Island is the best reunion movie.... Of all TV shows...
Them ladies were troopers who replaced the originals fake Ginger Fake Jan erc.
Fake Jan could belt out the songs. She was a good singer.
Hell of an irony that Tina Louise is the last surviving castaway when she was the first (and only) one to bail on the show.
It certainly is ironic.
@@jdsundstrom "In Universe" I guess that would make Ginger Grant now the sole owner of the resort they turned the island into in the second reunion movie LOL
Great 😊
spray some arrid extra dry on those specks on the certz mints, then you can save the ozone layer while fixing your breath at the same time. that way those bublicious animated kids won’t drift past the broken ozone layer into outer space and die from the cosmic rays, lack of oxygen and unfiltered radiation. if only those kids picked bubble yum instead.
You telling me there are more people in love with Ginger than there are with Mrs. Howell?😅😅😅
No sir. I am not. However, the decades old debate does not include dear sweet Lovey Howell.
The Eva Grubb character was a nice change for Tina, but you're not covering her dual role in that episode as the fake Ginger, I know. 🤷♂️ Lol
The newer Ginger was more attractive, than the original Ginger.
The new Ginger was much younger than the original Ginger .
To portray Ginger, an actress has to be $exy.
Judith did very well in both movies.
I also remember her from the movie, "No Small Affair".
Why do people tend to blame the "fill in" or "replacement" actors and actresses? Tina Louise unfortunately imagined she was a bigger star and more gifted actress than in reality, and refused to take part in nearly all the reunion movies on the basis that such typecasting would hinder her career. (As it turned out, that was not especially much). The "fill in" actors and actresses are doing a job that has been assigned to them, and it is not a particularly easy one.
If you watched my video, you would know that I didn’t blame Judith at all. In fact, the video celebrates her career.
@@jdsundstrom Sorry, I did not mean you!
Sorry, but her portrayal of Ginger was NOT Ginger Grant from the show. Ginger on the show PLAYED dumb, but it was only an act. She was actually pretty savvy, and only PLAYING dumb to catch people (mostly men) off guard.
Fake Ginger was portrayed as just plain naive and airheaded. There was no depth to her character at ALL, she was just a cliche dumb blond with a henna rinse.
Thanks for sharing your perspective, Julie!
I forgot there was a fake Ginger lol She did a good job. I’m sure I noticed the 1st time then let it go. She was now Ginger. I can’t say the same for Other Darren on Bewitched 😂 He was/is like an optical illusion. I cannot remember what Prime Darren looks like when watching episodes that Other Darren appears.
Yep. It's one of those things where you notice it...and then move on.
I thought it was smart to not have them rescued at the end..it was one show that didn't need closure as their adventures happened on the island.. Even in the reunion movie when they were rescued, It didn't work for me.. And as ridiculous as how they returned to the island, it was the best part of the movie..
The look was there ,but her voice was off . There’s on,y one Ginger.
It would be impossible to replace Tina in a proprer manner,but she tried. (BTW,Am I the ONLY one out here that DID NOT believe it would really happen when they first advertised "Rescue From Gilligan's Island"??? I though it was 1970's "click bait /fake TV" myself... lol :) )
Thanks for sharing!
They must have got the idea from fake Shemp
Have you created a video about the other "Fake Ginger", Constance Forslund? It may make for a good video.
Not yet. She was the "Fake Fake Ginger" replacing Judith Baldwin in the final "Gilligan's Island" TV movie.
She stole the show in the movie, "No Small Affair".
Wish Tina returned as ginger she was ginger wasn't the same without Tina that's like replacing dawn wells as Mary Ann wouldn't be the same Dave
What happened to her parents I was surprised about that losing them at that age is shocking???
I don't have any more details, Gary. That is all that Judith shared on her website.
@@jdsundstrom it's okay I understand
Besides fake Jan, Marcia, and Ginger, there was another Becky on Roseanne Sarah Chalke who took over the role Lacy Gorensen started. In the 8th season, she came back for a while and at the end of the first season 8 show they did a takeoff on the Patty Duke Show with both Sarah and Lacy. In the Roseanne reboot Sarah appeared in a different role. Lacy reprised her role of Becky in the reboot and spinoff The Connors
I actually didn't watch the rebooted "Rosanne", therefore, I didn't realize that the actress that originated the role of Sarah in the original series returned to the role in the reboot
If I remember correctly, Sarah Chalke made a one-time appearance in "The Connors" as well.
@jdsundstrom I don't remember that Dave, but I do know something else about Roseanne. There was another DJ in the very first episode. Actor Sal Barrone was originally DJ. What happened was a combination of things. There was a writers strike and that delayed Roseanne s premiere, and she thought Sal aged too much. He also was not getting along with Sara Gilbert, so he was replaced with Michael Fishman. So it turns out Fishman was not the original DJ even though it seems he was
Can you do a video on what happened to Monica and Raul/Little Chico from the final season of Chico And The Man? I think Gabriel Melgar, who played Raul/Little Chico, appeared in the 1985 Miami Vice ep The Maze (season 1) as one of the Colombian teen trio of cop-killing brothers that Crockett, Tubbs, Castillo and the rest of the Vice force was taking down. I think the actress who played Ed's beautiful teen niece Monica (Julie Hill) also played a prostitute and another small part on Miami Vice in an uncredited role in a couple different episodes. Not a bad show to attempt a comeback for either actor.
Julie Hill was totally gorgeous. You'd think her beauty would land her more roles after Chico's cancellation.
Here’s the one I did on Gabe a couple of months ago.
ruclips.net/video/LA8Pl3w18Xg/видео.html
@@jdsundstrom Will you do one on Julie Hill (Monica on Chico)?
I'll add Julie to my potential topics list. 🙂
Didn't Tina Louise show up once on married with children? I think remember she did
Yep. A season five episode that had Tia Carrere in it as well.
@@jdsundstrom oh yeah that's right
@@williamkidney6031Tina Louise and her Gilligan's Island co-stars, Bob Denver, Russell Johnson and Dawn Wells, appeared in a cameo on the sitcom, Roseanne.
Rather than trying to replace Ginger, perhaps Sherwood should have written her out of the story. You know, she got eaten by a shark or married a rich royalty and not allowed to go anywhere 😊😊
I thought fake Ginger ran off with Raj from What’s Happening
What????
I feel like if this happened today, they would’ve just killed Ginger offscreen 😂 problem solved.
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👸 It's called Gilligan's island not Ginger's Island Dave.😆
It is a true story !!! Tina told the story herself, years later
Yes. I read somewhere that Ginger's agent sold the show's idea to Tina. Tina should have gotten a clue from the show's title.
Tina was told a show called Gilligan’s Island was going to center around her character named Ginger? Not buying it.
Nobody understood it, but somehow, I think it was Tina's agent who conned her into it. I had bought Sherwood Schwartz's book on "Gilligan's Island" and he related the story in detail. I don't have a hard time believing such a thing. An agent who stands to make a hefty commission on getting his client to accept a TV role could twist a story any which way to make it sound plausible.
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Team Tina Louise here!
Ginger Grant is supposed to be Marilyn Monroe.
I wonder what happened to Certs.
Aren't they still around?
@jdsundstrom I haven't seen the in years. I usually end up getting Tic Tacs or Altoids. I would get Certs if I could find them!
Dude, you really think she was sold a bill of goods?🤔😀
I really do. I think her manager told her whatever was necessary to get her to agree to do "Gilligan's Island". In this case, I believe he misled her into thinking that her role was more important than it truly was.
@@jdsundstrom that’s cool. I just find it hard to believe that she never read the script because it’s right there in the tittle.
You are correct in that she wouldn’t be the first actress to conned into a role.
I always liked Dynamints better thank Tick Tacks.
Do they still make Dynamints? I haven't seen them in years.
certs comerical its mr darcy from marriewd with chidren
It sure looks like him!
Tina louise actually was a movie star in real life before gilligan's island.😮 Her resume is a bunch of dramatic, serious roles. Comedy was not something that she ever did really..(And for good reason, she wasn't funny.) I put money on Mary Ann to win "best celebrity " contest 😊 She spent the rest of her life pretending to be Mary Ann,( Even when Dawn wasn't working,) she was Volunteering for a Charity group in a village With no Connection to the modern world. They didn't have electricity or clean water, but upon seeing the group a native woman started pointing excitedly at Dawn and then she grabbed her in a bear hug with tears streaming down her face, She just kept repeating "You are Mary Ann" The girl had worked as a maid at a hotel on a different part of the island chain, and had seen dozens of reruns of Gilligan's island while she worked there. So a year later these volunteers walk into their village, And one of them just happens to be Mary Ann.. Dawn Wells was very gracious and understanding Of this new fan, talking with her, Giving her a hug and an autograph. Dawn was stunned that she was recognized at a primitive
Village in the middle of nowhere. 😊
Thanks for sharing!
The person who took over the role of ginger and Gilligan island was no good. She was no ginger. You could tell she was fake sorry but she was no good. I guess Tina Louise is the only one who could be ginger on Gilligan’s Island. By the way, where have you been you used to do about TV shows all the time and I haven’t seen any one of them lately.”
She was a fake ginger she night might be fake on anything else she did but she definitely was a fake ginger. I’m sure she’s a good person, but not as ginger. She was just fake.