⏱️ Timestamps by TimeSkip ⏱️ 00:00:00 - Podcast Disclaimer 00:05:56 - Checking on Family 00:14:32 - Karaoke Night Experience 00:25:03 - Dirk's Legal Troubles Explained 00:36:31 - The Role of Older Artists in Mentorship 00:41:43 - Addressing Senseless Killings 00:49:21 - Choosing Heroes Wisely 00:54:22 - Empathy and Understanding in Communities 01:00:21 - Luck and Life Choices 01:06:32 - The Importance of Guidance 01:18:20 - The Plus One Dilemma 01:25:16 - Fantasy Sports Picks Overview 01:35:52 - Music Releases and Reactions 01:40:56 - Understanding Trauma and Crime 01:47:24 - Mendez Brothers Case Discussion 01:52:37 - Hip Hop Media's Role Today 01:58:15 - Kendrick's Media Choices 02:03:18 - Importance of Black Media 02:10:01 - Artist Attachment to Work 02:17:52 - Ecosystem of Hip-Hop Media 02:24:00 - AI Chatbot Lawsuit Overview 02:29:00 - AI's Role in Mental Health 02:38:00 - Ethics of AI in Healthcare 02:47:40 - Travel Plans & Future Aspirations 02:53:09 - Jealousy & Insecurity in Relationships 02:58:22 - Halloween Food Network Show Commentary 03:05:00 - Scorpio Season and Relationships 03:11:40 - Planning for Special Occasions 03:16:40 - Financial Planning for Relationships
Lol call it out for what yall so busy trying save everybody especially every black mf for what everybody can't be saved holding them accountable when they already in prison does what exactly nothing the same mf going hear this and still go drill a Mf
Brother we been having stop the violence & save the youth marches within the black community for over half a century now. It ain't rocket science, niggas fuck shit up & don't care until karma hit & sometimes not even then.
Durk is a grown ass man that is 32 years old, who lived and glorified that street life. Stop making excuses for him. Just because you like the nigga music doesn’t mean he can’t be held accountable. I’m tired of people tryna give street niggas grace when innocent people get caught in the crosshairs. Joe your co-host need to do better
Very deep! You can’t even argue that point. Trauma is real and once we are older (cause I’m 38), like Joe and the rest of the crew, you see things VERY different and we tend to forget that we worked through different traumas by this age.
@@vashonsantiago818 ehh that’s a distorted view of his take. I believe it’s more about depression and not knowing how to properly cope or address with your losses and emotions. This then leads to them trying to find purpose out of the want to kill themselves by killing others and usually they find purpose in a gang unit. Depending on the persons story I believe this to be true but not a blanket statement
@@JohnJohn_TheComedian yes, I agree. I just think there's a factor missing that keeps them from hurting themselves directly (in a sense) and a factor added that provokes them to want others to feel hurt (like they do). Either way no excuse, develop better coping skills somehow (other than hurting others)
Dude literally broke down in tears and told Durk to let the beef Go.. so all the “they need guidance “ is bullshit. Whoever that interviewer was gave him guidance and a warning and Durk still did what he did
Most women don’t to be honest. Speaking for myself I don’t know much about him besides he’s connected to King Von who ppl dubbed a “serial killer” so this all seems like the logical conclusion 🤷🏽♀️
lol she ain’t goin, 😆 and Joe the only one spitting game. Niggas tried to tell the youngins it ain’t worth it but niggas think they tough til they get put in the can fr
@@TGUTTAExiT21 as someone apart of his generation half of em truly are lost souls dawg. They 16-17 with not a single ounce of guidance and it’s being reflected in there way they are going about these killings. Everyone wants to comment on how lost the next generation is without actually being mentors and I get it Joe saying they are already lost at that age but that just mean we gotta be there when they are younger.
@@Diovolentelmfao ain’t nobody have to guide them 😂 you learnt that bs at age 5, you do a crime be ready to do the time. We all know the family that gangbangs but there’s always that one dude who refuses to live that lifestyle and CHOOSES NOT TO. 😂 take you cape off, grown ass man trying to make a excuse for other grown men’s behavior and actions. Damn shameful 😭
@@ulisesrangel4912 nah we all don’t got family that bang , somebody gotta break the generational curses and pay it forward to the next generation. And if helping the youth and educating them on what else is out there in the world is putting on a cape okay then🤷🏽♂️. You niggas be 4 blunts deep tryna act cool for the internet stay blessed 🤞🏾
People don't want to admit that we treat real situations that have actual victims like a TV show. We don't take anything seriously anymore. That's why people in power find it so easy to play in our faces
Perfectly put, that king von shit was crazy. Dude was by every definition a serial killer. Yet people tried to argue circumstance as if personal choice has nothing to do with it. Then the masses wonder why we as a culture and creed of people are never taken seriously! The blatant acceptance of degeneracy in our culture over the last 50 years has been appalling.
Jaewon is making excuses for his generation. The fools of the past taught us some lessons. We saw how biggie and Tupac played out. How long do you have to see the turmoil in hip hop to realize the whole thing is POISON. Cut the BS jaewon!
@@jbrown7No that’s all them niggas cared to absorb… it’s no ones fault except his own. Why are we addressing everything except Durk knew it was wrong. We all adults, we know right from wrong. So did he, he just doesn’t care
I keep posting this cuz it was helpful for me personally to learn: 1) Harper bazaar has their first black female editor in chief who asked Kendrick 2) journalist capturing it is a black woman 3) interviewer sza is a black woman Sounds like Kendrick is supporting black women and diversity at a traditional org. That’s a GOOD thing!
@@chichi.phil413 I believe when you’re raised by a woman and father, you understand how to treat a woman or a person with respect what I’m saying is if I give you $20. It’s not because I love you. It’s cause I want you to get a f bowl of cereal and not starve to death.
These guys are podding - DELIBERATELY pretending not to know what Punch is referring to... but, MOST establishment Hip Hop media ( Ak, 22, Mase Cam etc) were pro-Drake. It was the people, and the small independent media that were with Kendrick. And Punch is right, Hip Hop media has been co-opted by vultures, and sucks🤨
I like that Joe kept it real on the Durk topic. These rappers put it out there for the world to see. It's sad, but that's the reality we are living in.
@@Yourdaddy-d2o that’s my point a lot of things Joe is saying you gotta stop making excuses for a lot these dumb acts , because adults do like to make excuses for everything when it’s not about a debate it’s about the are the rules & if you break them it comes with consequences it is what it is it’s no sugarcoating
@@blueruinray facts bro. They sound real goofy up there trying to make excuses for them. You did the crime as a man and bragged about it. You gotta stand on it as a man if you get caught. Everything else is excuses
@b.kiddaffie5960 On Joe Budden's interview he stated that's the point of Flip being there, to capture and hype up the younger group of folks.. Yea, J'won is most definitely pointless on here, Chile Bye😂👋👋👋
That boy be saying shit he see on twitter, he never says anything that makes you think. I’m 24 and he hasn’t brought up any of the troubles the average young black male goes through today. Instead we just kid a rich kid’s nonchalant takes on the world
Watch the episode of the view yesterday just to see what’s the difference. Nothing these guys just said the N-word more but talk about diversity. These are grown children.
It’s crazy that record labels aren’t implicated in these RICO cases. Durk wasn’t just making local mixtapes. These companies distributed and profited from the same music prosecutors are using as evidence in court. IMO, the labels are a huge part of the problem . When a rapper dies or goes to prison, the label just moves on to the next rapper, repeating the cycle. They collect all the profits without facing any legal consequences or accountability
Because that’s the business. Those people at record labels are soulless, but you know that. So why make it easier for them to profit from you or move on. It’s your job as a man to recognize this. And if you can’t it’s your duty as a man to take accountability and say you fucked up. There’s no excuses for anything that happened to Durk. Stop defending that grown ass man, he knew better
PSA!!!! Broward County is NOT Miami.. it is a separate county from Dade. Broward County is where Kodak is from but that’s not Miami. Pembroke Pines, Miramar, Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Pompano, Coral Springs, etc are all Broward County. Shoutout to Broward County! 🙌🏽💯
This was a much needed conversation and Ish and Joe are right. At a certain point in life certain things need to be outgrown and trauma is not an excuse or a crutch. We all been through some shit, but it where you from....it's where you're going! The hood creates confused and traumatized boys who are struggling through manhood. It's ok to value yourself and stop trying to be tough.
It’s only until we start losing STARS that everybody wants to play politician! When 100 kids every summer die in the BX to gun violence and mindless killings nobody bats a fucking eye, but when Kflock and Dthang get locked up? Oh now it’s a community wide generational problem 😂😂😂. You can’t make this shit up bro! How many times u see a heartbroken mother crying on the news saying her son was a good kid? Meanwhile lil Timmy had 13 bodies by the time he was 13 🫠. Our communities will not learn because we only hold each other accountable AFTER the point of no return.
@@jbeataman when Umar speaks he talks as if everything he's saying is correct and always cuts people off that challenges the shit he be saying. He only wants to hear himself talk.
That's too cute they swear not many women even watch the pod, I don't understand why we wouldn't, my daughter loves it as well. Not to mention my husband and one of my son's. My other son's could care less either way about them😂
@tonynicolas4144 N'all actually you just sound stupid and your comment was pointless. Go play with yourself and find something more positively productive to do. For the record I am subscribed there's more to life then just sitting around waiting on social media entertainment✌️👋👋👋
I'm so glad Joe said what he said in response not jus about the lil Durk situation but all of these artists/entertainers wit all the senseless stuff they do, people getting killed or killing people.
Joe when you compare prison rehabilitation in America vs other countries, our prison systems are not primarily focused on rehabilitation so I can understand especially with Mel being from Canada why she says our attempts at rehabilitation are BS
AS A MATURE WOMAN/ MOTHER BORN & RAISED IN CHICAGO..... THE USELESS LOSS OF LIFE IS HEARTBREAKING. AND WITH THE INCEPTION OF DRILL, THE YOUNG GUYS ARE WILLING TO CRASH OUT & DO THINGS FOR A HIT RECORD. AND REMEMBER THERE IS NO EXPIRATION ON GET BACK, THE POLICE DO NOT CARE IF NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO GET YOUR LIFE TOGETHER. YOU ALL LAID IT OUT ON THE INTERNET
The responses to the young man is proving his point. He's trying tell them how they think, and they're dismissing him. The best advice my mom ever gave me was to give the next generation the same grace she gave me and my friends, because we ALL fuck up. Unfortunately, many of my peers forget how much they've fucked up.
It comes from the place of a nigga who doesn’t know what accountability is. Niggas are not dumb victims, we know right from wrong…. It’s just that simple.
He’s from New York bro. These types of people will literally witness a homeless person. Get stabbed or jerk off and walk over them like if it’s a garbage bag on the street.
At minute 50:58 about this gun finally the youngest one in the group brings up the most important point ! mental health in our community, which plays a big role in this we are raised on survival mode that’s not something someone can turn off just by becoming rich.
Man, if you’re a criminal you’re criminal life‘s about choices. I grew up in survival mode you know right from wrong. You play stupid games you get stupid prizes stop making excuses for people in our community who choose to do stupid inside society, then we as a community always want tweet post RIP are free John John why free John John if he’s out here killing people that’s a menace to society we don’t know nobody out here like that
@@Yourdaddy-d2o I 10000% agree with you but that doesn’t take away from those who aren’t / weren’t as fortune as you and I. People have undiagnosed mental health issues but because they don’t know their impulsive actions as just set aside as a criminal . Bipolar being a big factor in our communities goes untreated in a lot and makes their lives horrible .
@@comfortablewoman that’s still an anomaly not everybody has bipolar disease in our community. A lot of people choose to make bad decisions. That’s all it comes down to. I was raised in the same environment raised by my grandparents no mother no dad not once have I ever thought about shooting somebody common sense can’t get away with it if you can’t see all the people around you that commit murders go to jail and never come home again that’s on you as a person stop making excuses.
Joe i thank you and the entire crew for speaking on these troubled artists. It's incredibly sad to follow this music only to hear they passed or are in prison. I'm praying we can figure some way to change this, all of us.
That hurt. Joe loved his dad so much and he wasn't around. My parents were around and I don't have a strong bond with them. That's just the way it goes. I hope you both get reunited one day. ❤
Stop hating on the youngster. Y’all sound crazy. He’s a smart young man speaking from youngsters perspective. He’ll learn and get better. But he spoke his truth. And that’s Jada son. Respect it and protect it.
I'm glad Ish wasn't afraid to voice his opinion on the Menendez situation. I understand different sides but Ish made a great point in regards to why he doesn't think it's fair them being resentenced, if that's the case
Ill never understand trying to rationalize or excuse all this gang violence, especially amongst rappers. These arent 12 year olds in the hood doing what they are tought to survive, these are grown ass rich men choosing to beef and break the law, leading to victims and further glorification of ignorant and violent behavior. If Durk did the crime he should do the time. Simple
Jwon is a different breed. His intellect, critical thinking skills, wisdom and analytics are insanely impressive. I fully understood Flips point about sometimes you need 10 years to understand and move in wisdom or grace. Ish & JB are podding and not thinking outside of their scope... its weird. Sometimes she uses too many words, and I'm a woman who uses lots of words.
When flip says it takes a village to raise a child people only think about the good villages that raise children. What about the bad villages that raise children such as the bad villages they got a hold of Lil Durk King Von NBA YoungBoy i’m pretty sure they were raised by villages, but the villages that raise them were bad. Look at the things that they had them doing it is most importantly a dad to raise a son because dad keeps his son out of jail and his daughter off stripperpoles. If you’re able to forget having a village raise your children, that is how many different moral values that to your children that you may not agree with if you’re able to take care of your children and take care of your children you can put your morals and value solely instead of relying on other people to do that that’s the problem with our community.
"it takes a village to raise" is about a positive and healthy environment. That's the whole point of the saying. Obviously there's bad influences and other factors, but that is not the point of the quote. It's very simple.
@@TGUTTAExiT21 that’s what I was saying that’s what I said. We need to stop relying on villages to raise our kids and raise them ourselves to make a kid raise yourself. Don’t rely on other people to raise your.
I’m glad they have jaewon on here I really enjoyed him being on one of their other ep and is a different and younger perspective he just has to get comfortable and not let joe get to him
Lol everyone was right on the Durk topic. I don’t know why people are picking sides. Holding him accountable as an adult doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge his trauma-induced decision making. Everything doesn’t need to be A or B. A & B are both correct.
You can now watch Joe Budden TV in Spanish: bit.ly/JBPSpanish
Si tu Ai convence a mi hijo de salir así, habrá casos de personas desaparecidas.
demo unlocked! shout out to the jbp💯
It’s Hilarious 😂
But still a smart move
Lmfaoo oh shit
⏱️ Timestamps by TimeSkip ⏱️
00:00:00 - Podcast Disclaimer
00:05:56 - Checking on Family
00:14:32 - Karaoke Night Experience
00:25:03 - Dirk's Legal Troubles Explained
00:36:31 - The Role of Older Artists in Mentorship
00:41:43 - Addressing Senseless Killings
00:49:21 - Choosing Heroes Wisely
00:54:22 - Empathy and Understanding in Communities
01:00:21 - Luck and Life Choices
01:06:32 - The Importance of Guidance
01:18:20 - The Plus One Dilemma
01:25:16 - Fantasy Sports Picks Overview
01:35:52 - Music Releases and Reactions
01:40:56 - Understanding Trauma and Crime
01:47:24 - Mendez Brothers Case Discussion
01:52:37 - Hip Hop Media's Role Today
01:58:15 - Kendrick's Media Choices
02:03:18 - Importance of Black Media
02:10:01 - Artist Attachment to Work
02:17:52 - Ecosystem of Hip-Hop Media
02:24:00 - AI Chatbot Lawsuit Overview
02:29:00 - AI's Role in Mental Health
02:38:00 - Ethics of AI in Healthcare
02:47:40 - Travel Plans & Future Aspirations
02:53:09 - Jealousy & Insecurity in Relationships
02:58:22 - Halloween Food Network Show Commentary
03:05:00 - Scorpio Season and Relationships
03:11:40 - Planning for Special Occasions
03:16:40 - Financial Planning for Relationships
Is this an AI programme?
Durk*
@@Muntw.2.0 I think it is
@@Muntw.2.0yes it is.
Finally you back
Joe is 100a% on the dirk situation… adults gotta adult and stop tryna sugar coat the bullshit. Call it out and maybe it’ll stop!
They worried about being called 40 & Broke. Shoutout Big Sad
Lol call it out for what yall so busy trying save everybody especially every black mf for what everybody can't be saved holding them accountable when they already in prison does what exactly nothing the same mf going hear this and still go drill a Mf
Brother we been having stop the violence & save the youth marches within the black community for over half a century now. It ain't rocket science, niggas fuck shit up & don't care until karma hit & sometimes not even then.
Joe has a track record of being a human punching bag. Also ran under some real ninjas but used them as protection
That’s bc Joe ain’t never did shit
Durk is a grown ass man that is 32 years old, who lived and glorified that street life. Stop making excuses for him. Just because you like the nigga music doesn’t mean he can’t be held accountable. I’m tired of people tryna give street niggas grace when innocent people get caught in the crosshairs. Joe your co-host need to do better
They’re too ignorant to care, but that’s a good f-ing point
Exactly
Hold ur horses. U not black
People give excuses for killers but talk bad about Diddy. Understand death people don't come back .
@@Jeyapollo u not blk so mind yo business
That quote J-won dropped about “suicidal thoughts turn into homicidal impulses” is deep !!!
Very deep! You can’t even argue that point. Trauma is real and once we are older (cause I’m 38), like Joe and the rest of the crew, you see things VERY different and we tend to forget that we worked through different traumas by this age.
A new way of saying misery loves company, yet still no excuse.
@@vashonsantiago818 ehh that’s a distorted view of his take. I believe it’s more about depression and not knowing how to properly cope or address with your losses and emotions. This then leads to them trying to find purpose out of the want to kill themselves by killing others and usually they find purpose in a gang unit. Depending on the persons story I believe this to be true but not a blanket statement
@@JohnJohn_TheComedian yes, I agree. I just think there's a factor missing that keeps them from hurting themselves directly (in a sense) and a factor added that provokes them to want others to feel hurt (like they do). Either way no excuse, develop better coping skills somehow (other than hurting others)
@@vashonsantiago818 He’s just saying you can’t simplify the sentiment with “Misery loves company”
Dude literally broke down in tears and told Durk to let the beef Go.. so all the “they need guidance “ is bullshit. Whoever that interviewer was gave him guidance and a warning and Durk still did what he did
Yup and by that time it was already too late for durk
I believe it was Walo! He did that for young thug & them too, but thug & them did seem more receptive of what he was trying to tell them!!
@@NEHL_SOUL they literally opened up that episode championing his diss 🤣
@@thecolormahogany2000 shut up
1:06:40 of Durk’s MDWG interview w/ Gillie & Wallo
Mel don’t give a damn about that durk shit 😂😂😂
She’s a feminist man
Most women don’t to be honest. Speaking for myself I don’t know much about him besides he’s connected to King Von who ppl dubbed a “serial killer” so this all seems like the logical conclusion 🤷🏽♀️
I like how she didn't try to jump in... sometimes you have to sit some things out
lol she ain’t goin, 😆 and Joe the only one spitting game. Niggas tried to tell the youngins it ain’t worth it but niggas think they tough til they get put in the can fr
why should she
The Chief Keef take was 1000% spot on. Glad he took his opportunity and moved on to a better life
I hear a lot of excuses for Durk which is ridiculous. Joe AT LEAST said something reasonable.
Super hard gangbusters, the victims still suffering, live in the bed you create.
I'm so glad Flip and Joe checked Jaewon. His generation has 0 accountability.
@@TGUTTAExiT21 as someone apart of his generation half of em truly are lost souls dawg. They 16-17 with not a single ounce of guidance and it’s being reflected in there way they are going about these killings. Everyone wants to comment on how lost the next generation is without actually being mentors and I get it Joe saying they are already lost at that age but that just mean we gotta be there when they are younger.
@@Diovolentelmfao ain’t nobody have to guide them 😂 you learnt that bs at age 5, you do a crime be ready to do the time. We all know the family that gangbangs but there’s always that one dude who refuses to live that lifestyle and CHOOSES NOT TO. 😂 take you cape off, grown ass man trying to make a excuse for other grown men’s behavior and actions. Damn shameful 😭
@@ulisesrangel4912 nah we all don’t got family that bang , somebody gotta break the generational curses and pay it forward to the next generation. And if helping the youth and educating them on what else is out there in the world is putting on a cape okay then🤷🏽♂️. You niggas be 4 blunts deep tryna act cool for the internet stay blessed 🤞🏾
Mel was glowing this pod.She looks so pretty and happy.
She does
💯😍 you ain’t lying
Absolutely love M4 aka Mel Ford❤️
I love that she is part of this pod !
Her feet look delish too as always 🤤
Having discernment and having a foresight is a blessing and a gift everyone does not have.
People don't want to admit that we treat real situations that have actual victims like a TV show. We don't take anything seriously anymore. That's why people in power find it so easy to play in our faces
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@@Micisme86 facts
Perfectly put, that king von shit was crazy. Dude was by every definition a serial killer. Yet people tried to argue circumstance as if personal choice has nothing to do with it. Then the masses wonder why we as a culture and creed of people are never taken seriously! The blatant acceptance of degeneracy in our culture over the last 50 years has been appalling.
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@@premejon8300 and they still try to argue for von! shit is CRAZY
Jaewon is making excuses for his generation. The fools of the past taught us some lessons. We saw how biggie and Tupac played out. How long do you have to see the turmoil in hip hop to realize the whole thing is POISON. Cut the BS jaewon!
Not true at all , rappers and other ogs around the world continued to push negative lifestyles on the youth
@@jbrown7you think every rapper and OG raps about negativity? It’s being pushed more but not everyone raps that way so that take is bs
Biggie and pac was made up beef. This street beef it’s different
@@jbrown7No that’s all them niggas cared to absorb… it’s no ones fault except his own. Why are we addressing everything except Durk knew it was wrong. We all adults, we know right from wrong. So did he, he just doesn’t care
Word he not even from the hood. He need to sit these talks tf out.
I keep posting this cuz it was helpful for me personally to learn:
1) Harper bazaar has their first black female editor in chief who asked Kendrick
2) journalist capturing it is a black woman
3) interviewer sza is a black woman
Sounds like Kendrick is supporting black women and diversity at a traditional org. That’s a GOOD thing!
@@chichi.phil413 I believe when you’re raised by a woman and father, you understand how to treat a woman or a person with respect what I’m saying is if I give you $20. It’s not because I love you. It’s cause I want you to get a f bowl of cereal and not starve to death.
Very insightful!
These guys are podding - DELIBERATELY pretending not to know what Punch is referring to... but, MOST establishment Hip Hop media ( Ak, 22, Mase Cam etc) were pro-Drake. It was the people, and the small independent media that were with Kendrick. And Punch is right, Hip Hop media has been co-opted by vultures, and sucks🤨
If u ever thought K dot didn't support BW then you were a feminist who probably have unresolved issues about BM. Sad
Yessss 🙌🙌🙌
I like that Joe kept it real on the Durk topic. These rappers put it out there for the world to see. It's sad, but that's the reality we are living in.
Durk is 32. He don’t need a OG and at that age where you from means nothing bc you grown enough to know better. Stop the excuses and sobbing
32 not old
You learn the hard lessons in your 30s fr
@GiftedDee that's old enough to realize get the f out he the oldest out of all those guys acting childish still
Agreed
@@GiftedDee32 is OLD enough to know fucking better!!!!! Goofball!
How does flip sit on that high chair for over 3 hours every pod.
Ego. short man thinks he’s bigger than everybody
His butt has more cushioning than anyone else on the show. Including Mel 😅
@@IyaPatsyOriginalEgunlady damm 😎
He’s a toddler, he’s used to sitting on high chairs
That seat needs an eject button. He needs to go asap
Dirk did not give a shit about nothing walo was saying
I’m loving this pod nowadays. Starts off so light and funny most days. Necessary before talking about the day to day.
There is nothing in my life that I’ve ever done that I could honestly say it was someone else’s fault! Accountability is the key to all change 🤷🏾♂️
Joe: Mel
Mel: 👁️ 👁️ …….. what?
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This Conversation shows me how dumb people are. Common sense is rare. To try n justify any of this is wild lol Joe killing the whole crew today.
Flip doesn’t understand every debate or take doesn’t need push back just listen sometimes
Then it’s not a debate
@@Yourdaddy-d2o that’s my point a lot of things Joe is saying you gotta stop making excuses for a lot these dumb acts , because adults do like to make excuses for everything when it’s not about a debate it’s about the are the rules & if you break them it comes with consequences it is what it is it’s no sugarcoating
@@blueruinray facts bro. They sound real goofy up there trying to make excuses for them. You did the crime as a man and bragged about it. You gotta stand on it as a man if you get caught. Everything else is excuses
@@blueruinray duh am saying the same thing
@@blueruinray it’s one thing to offer push back but let the audience know where you personal feel
hope everybody have a blessed sunday!
Everytime Mel talkes Flip smiles lmaoooo
Ice > Jaekwon. People hates ice but he is needed.
Facts get the kid outta there lol
Jwon is needed cause its definitely a generational gap
Definitely
He's corny and knows very little.
@b.kiddaffie5960 On Joe Budden's interview he stated that's the point of Flip being there, to capture and hype up the younger group of folks.. Yea, J'won is most definitely pointless on here, Chile Bye😂👋👋👋
That boy be saying shit he see on twitter, he never says anything that makes you think. I’m 24 and he hasn’t brought up any of the troubles the average young black male goes through today. Instead we just kid a rich kid’s nonchalant takes on the world
@@Diovolente you don't even know hom sound like you should listen more and talk way less
Nothing better on a Sunday. Shoutout the crew
Praise GOD
Watch the episode of the view yesterday just to see what’s the difference. Nothing these guys just said the N-word more but talk about diversity. These are grown children.
We're all plus ones listening to the podcast.
Jaewon really be saying some stupid shit sometimes thinking they gon agree I’m glad Joe went into OG mode and took over
Facts mfs be D eating “he just like his pops”
“Kiss raised a strong headed soul”
I fw bro heavy tho
Nah bruh that’s emannys bag 😂
What was stupid that he said?
@@bluethingableemanny is 🗑️🚮 he’s definitely the fuccoff of the pod
@@chiefsoze3272nothing! Young cuz is very smart and articulate
"I'm not gonna trade MY life in, for yours" 💯
That's a bar
Joe:Mel
Mel: What? "Stares blankly"😂😂😂😂😂😂
we suppose to pretend like they not smashin
@@younggunz07bro what?🤣🤣
@@younggunz07they not go ofy
Like shorty, are you podding or NOT
😂😂😂
1:37:37 as a mom there’s something about a father son relationship that is super beautiful.
When Joe said he had a front row seat…It hit home for me. If you know who his father is then you know Joe is absolutely right. Sad situation.
Excellent point JWON about the homicidal impulses.
Yes! Very mature and deep point
It’s crazy that record labels aren’t implicated in these RICO cases. Durk wasn’t just making local mixtapes. These companies distributed and profited from the same music prosecutors are using as evidence in court. IMO, the labels are a huge part of the problem . When a rapper dies or goes to prison, the label just moves on to the next rapper, repeating the cycle. They collect all the profits without facing any legal consequences or accountability
Because that’s the business. Those people at record labels are soulless, but you know that. So why make it easier for them to profit from you or move on. It’s your job as a man to recognize this. And if you can’t it’s your duty as a man to take accountability and say you fucked up. There’s no excuses for anything that happened to Durk. Stop defending that grown ass man, he knew better
thas like blaming the car makers in a drive by
Well you know we can't say what race what kind of people are running the music labels and profiting off of this cycle 🤐👐🏾
Flip needa let that ☀️ shine on his dome ⏸️
Gotta take that size 10 snapback off sometimes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol people that don’t wear hats. that joke flew over their head 😂😂😂 that’s snapback. Might be a little too tight.
Size 10 3/4 😂😂😂
PSA!!!! Broward County is NOT Miami.. it is a separate county from Dade. Broward County is where Kodak is from but that’s not Miami. Pembroke Pines, Miramar, Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale, Pompano, Coral Springs, etc are all Broward County.
Shoutout to Broward County! 🙌🏽💯
Yea but it's known because it's by Miami,ya are little sister. Yo know
Exactly!
Miramar boy right here 🙋🏽♂️
@@will_9910 you almost Miami
💯 Facts how all them niggas so dumb af... we know the diff between the Brooklyn, Bronx, queens, etc... its just disrespect fucc em' 954/305 💯💯
Parks immediately flipped from Jaewon side to Joe's side when Joe got mad at the room about Durk. 🤣
Parks smart, he know where his bread is buttered lol jk 😂
😂he just wants peace
@@ramonredarez398 ong!
@@maiyapaiya 😂😂😂
He’s Joes puppet
This was a much needed conversation and Ish and Joe are right. At a certain point in life certain things need to be outgrown and trauma is not an excuse or a crutch. We all been through some shit, but it where you from....it's where you're going! The hood creates confused and traumatized boys who are struggling through manhood. It's ok to value yourself and stop trying to be tough.
correct
Weekly reminder to keep grindin and to never stop following your dreams! Sending love and peace JBP family 💪🏾
I'm not tryna hear og's ain't talking to the young fellas. Accountability is dead
They talking bout Lil Durk needed guidance like he ain’t almost 40 beefing kids 10+ younger. 🙄
Calling someone that’s in their early 30s almost 40 is crazy. That’s like saying a 12 year old is almost 20
@@Nunofyabizzzzz lol I was exaggerating but my point still stands. Him and Von were too damn old for that stupid shit
But when Umar say rap has done more harm than good to our culture Joe act like he was speaking a foreign language.
It’s only until we start losing STARS that everybody wants to play politician! When 100 kids every summer die in the BX to gun violence and mindless killings nobody bats a fucking eye, but when Kflock and Dthang get locked up? Oh now it’s a community wide generational problem 😂😂😂. You can’t make this shit up bro! How many times u see a heartbroken mother crying on the news saying her son was a good kid? Meanwhile lil Timmy had 13 bodies by the time he was 13 🫠. Our communities will not learn because we only hold each other accountable AFTER the point of no return.
Because he was. Joe who is from that field compared to Umar who isn't has a different perspective. I don't think that hard to understand.
@@jbeataman when Umar speaks he talks as if everything he's saying is correct and always cuts people off that challenges the shit he be saying. He only wants to hear himself talk.
@@will_9910He clearly wasn’t, because Joe basically agreed here.
A older person would say “ that wasn’t luck Joe that was Blessed”
GUN JAMMING SITUATION
Part of the problem on the Durk and drill shit is that the black community praises and respects criminals but they won’t say that
Why they not talking about the Abercrombie and Fitch CEO ?
They did on the last pod a little and they jumped to another subject during the talk
My husband literally lets me know when JBP posts. He’s knows the way to my heart 🫶🏾😏
That's too cute they swear not many women even watch the pod, I don't understand why we wouldn't, my daughter loves it as well. Not to mention my husband and one of my son's. My other son's could care less either way about them😂
This is gonna sound like hate but you can just hit the subscribe
@@tonynicolas4144leave her alone. That’s her bonding with her spouse, you jerk 😂
@@tonynicolas4144or maybe she works for Joe and her comment is faker than Joe buthurt
@tonynicolas4144 N'all actually you just sound stupid and your comment was pointless. Go play with yourself and find something more positively productive to do. For the record I am subscribed there's more to life then just sitting around waiting on social media entertainment✌️👋👋👋
I'm so glad Joe said what he said in response not jus about the lil Durk situation but all of these artists/entertainers wit all the senseless stuff they do, people getting killed or killing people.
Joe Budden sit back and grow old gracefully. This is one thing, you can’t get ready for. Just be thankful, many don’t get to do it. ❤
Ish: my feet growing yoo
Parks: CONGRATS 🎉😂😂😂
King of the one liners😂
Mark Lamont Hill: “Did we just become best friends?”
Ish: “YEP!”
He gets the women and the men 😮
😂😂😂😂😂
@@ronicasmith3956 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Joe when you compare prison rehabilitation in America vs other countries, our prison systems are not primarily focused on rehabilitation so I can understand especially with Mel being from Canada why she says our attempts at rehabilitation are BS
Exactly! And what did Joe mean when he said it was anti-black to say that?
when that Gun jammed there is no such thing as luck luck doesnt exist THAT WAS GOD JOE!
As far as “Hip Hop Media” just because you’re black doesn’t mean you fall under that. I don’t see Shannon Sharpe as HHM at all.
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AS A MATURE WOMAN/ MOTHER BORN & RAISED IN CHICAGO..... THE USELESS LOSS OF LIFE IS HEARTBREAKING. AND WITH THE INCEPTION OF DRILL, THE YOUNG GUYS ARE WILLING TO CRASH OUT & DO THINGS FOR A HIT RECORD. AND REMEMBER THERE IS NO EXPIRATION ON GET BACK, THE POLICE DO NOT CARE IF NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO GET YOUR LIFE TOGETHER. YOU ALL LAID IT OUT ON THE INTERNET
Between the antics, flip gives it up…most genuine podder of the jbp. Joe kept it real today.
Mels hair line is crazy!!!
@@racheller8753 she needs better wigs
YT SHIT LOL
"You don't have to live your raps"
This shxt Joe said had me dying😂😂 but it had to be said 💯
I’m glad Durk got caught, as a community let’s stop glorifying street crime and non sense… maybe the next generation can prosper..
Needed Ice this episode, we miss u Big Freeze!!
Ish is definitely the type to leave you hanging when you see him at the mall. 🤦🏽♂️😆😆😆17:06
Joe is dressed like a white gay man from jersey shore. I love the pants
If cam pull it off so can Joe never seen Yankee cap that colorful. I can’t wear it but like Bruce Bruce say “ it looks good on you” no Diddy.😂
@@TNNest2023 GAYY 😂
That ain’t luck Joe. That’s God.
Is it god when the gun don’t jam?
This is why I love the JBP. Real conversation, with no filters. Real grown up ishh. While spitting game
The responses to the young man is proving his point. He's trying tell them how they think, and they're dismissing him. The best advice my mom ever gave me was to give the next generation the same grace she gave me and my friends, because we ALL fuck up. Unfortunately, many of my peers forget how much they've fucked up.
It comes from the place of a nigga who doesn’t know what accountability is. Niggas are not dumb victims, we know right from wrong…. It’s just that simple.
Jwon got a big future in this podcast space I think if he listen to joe he will be bigger than joe
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@@Littles973 u named after Joe Willy stop what u doing u a whole pause
I literally HATE when Flip tries saying something prolific & is soo wrong🤦🏾♂️
This dude making excuses for senseless killings 🤦🏾♂️
He’s from New York bro. These types of people will literally witness a homeless person. Get stabbed or jerk off and walk over them like if it’s a garbage bag on the street.
“You can’t tell someone how to grieve” was the dumbest shit ever
@@hawdarkshooter bro they’re New Yorkers. They’ll walk over a homeless person OD and not give a shit.
most of it isnt senseless though it usually starts out senseless yeah
Flip is really needed on this pod
We understand it irks your soul speaking on such topics but we appreciate you touching on the topic
Flip actually can never leave this podcast 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 first 10 mins alone 😂😂😂😂
Flip w the lint roller sending me 😂😂😂
Thank you Joe, for the right take on the Lil Durk situation
Flip was on his A game today.. he had insight and had me cracking up .. salute
Shannon Sharpe is not hip hop media lol...
Streets said Jaewon to the JBP is like Poole to the wizards 😭
Cold blooded 😂
"Damn!!" (Kevin Hart voice)
😂😂😂😂
I don't see it. Jaewon is more like holiday to Celtics
@@Seven_Aint_Ninedefinitely not dru just won a chip over there ...jaewon bronny to the Lakers
At minute 50:58 about this gun finally the youngest one in the group brings up the most important point ! mental health in our community, which plays a big role in this we are raised on survival mode that’s not something someone can turn off just by becoming rich.
Man, if you’re a criminal you’re criminal life‘s about choices. I grew up in survival mode you know right from wrong. You play stupid games you get stupid prizes stop making excuses for people in our community who choose to do stupid inside society, then we as a community always want tweet post RIP are free John John why free John John if he’s out here killing people that’s a menace to society we don’t know nobody out here like that
@@Yourdaddy-d2o I 10000% agree with you but that doesn’t take away from those who aren’t / weren’t as fortune as you and I. People have undiagnosed mental health issues but because they don’t know their impulsive actions as just set aside as a criminal . Bipolar being a big factor in our communities goes untreated in a lot and makes their lives horrible .
@@comfortablewoman that’s still an anomaly not everybody has bipolar disease in our community. A lot of people choose to make bad decisions. That’s all it comes down to. I was raised in the same environment raised by my grandparents no mother no dad not once have I ever thought about shooting somebody common sense can’t get away with it if you can’t see all the people around you that commit murders go to jail and never come home again that’s on you as a person stop making excuses.
I fell down to my kneeeeeees when the law came
Joe i thank you and the entire crew for speaking on these troubled artists. It's incredibly sad to follow this music only to hear they passed or are in prison. I'm praying we can figure some way to change this, all of us.
That hurt. Joe loved his dad so much and he wasn't around. My parents were around and I don't have a strong bond with them. That's just the way it goes. I hope you both get reunited one day. ❤
Throw a cowboy hat on Joe and I swear Beyonce wore that same sweeties candy fit bruh.
Stop hating on the youngster. Y’all sound crazy. He’s a smart young man speaking from youngsters perspective. He’ll learn and get better. But he spoke his truth. And that’s Jada son. Respect it and protect it.
Yea all these people even Joe are proving his point lol no one coming at these dudes with love something a lot of them been missing they whole life
Jae’won said something high level right here at 50:48
Yea that was a good take from him for sure
Real talk, I would like to read that book
More excuses and zero accountability. Black community will never get better
Joe wearing thay hoodie again? Lol he must be tryna pander to us 9 to 5ers 😂
Yall said flip was cooking the first 10 minutes of the pod...15 mins in and don't see no water boiling on the stove 🤷🏾♂️ where's ice? He's needed
😂 no👨🏾🍳
Flip definitely can't boil water yet alone cook when it comes to real conversations.
JWON be looking Mad AF! 😂
Bc he still wet behind the ears but think he GROWN.
Hopefully Ice is back next week
Jaewon is a very intelligent young man. I like his perspective on the pod. He offers a great and clear outlook on every topic.
1:07:43 Flip got the chills
I'm glad Ish wasn't afraid to voice his opinion on the Menendez situation. I understand different sides but Ish made a great point in regards to why he doesn't think it's fair them being resentenced, if that's the case
Ill never understand trying to rationalize or excuse all this gang violence, especially amongst rappers. These arent 12 year olds in the hood doing what they are tought to survive, these are grown ass rich men choosing to beef and break the law, leading to victims and further glorification of ignorant and violent behavior. If Durk did the crime he should do the time. Simple
8:14 😂😂😂 Flip is HILARIOUS!!!
He is absolutely needed, on this podcast!
No he's not funny.. He's too old to be acting the way he is.
Absolutely agree with you !! Flip is hilarious !
I love love love Flip ❤️
The pod definitely needs his energy 🙌🏾
Respect to Queenz Flip on the growth & maturity!!!
Jwon is a different breed. His intellect, critical thinking skills, wisdom and analytics are insanely impressive.
I fully understood Flips point about sometimes you need 10 years to understand and move in wisdom or grace. Ish & JB are podding and not thinking outside of their scope... its weird.
Sometimes she uses too many words, and I'm a woman who uses lots of words.
When flip says it takes a village to raise a child people only think about the good villages that raise children. What about the bad villages that raise children such as the bad villages they got a hold of Lil Durk King Von NBA YoungBoy i’m pretty sure they were raised by villages, but the villages that raise them were bad. Look at the things that they had them doing it is most importantly a dad to raise a son because dad keeps his son out of jail and his daughter off stripperpoles. If you’re able to forget having a village raise your children, that is how many different moral values that to your children that you may not agree with if you’re able to take care of your children and take care of your children you can put your morals and value solely instead of relying on other people to do that that’s the problem with our community.
"it takes a village to raise" is about a positive and healthy environment.
That's the whole point of the saying.
Obviously there's bad influences and other factors, but that is not the point of the quote.
It's very simple.
Exactly every village different. Got the crackhead uncle babysitting u while mom at work hit different 😂
Kanye, Common, Chief Keef and Lupe come from the SAME Villages. Your Grown Ass choices are your own. Enough with the blame game snd excuses.
@@TGUTTAExiT21 that’s what I was saying that’s what I said. We need to stop relying on villages to raise our kids and raise them ourselves to make a kid raise yourself. Don’t rely on other people to raise your.
@13:54 I Looove Joe's sweatshirt. 🥰 He wore that on the "...Not Like Us" episode, too.
Ish relates EVERYTHING to money is very scary 😭 like Bro not EVERYTHING is about money. Ppl value morals over money
He’s allllllllways about money asking how much stuff cost,or say”oh he got that spanky”,”they got money over there”
I’m glad they have jaewon on here I really enjoyed him being on one of their other ep and is a different and younger perspective he just has to get comfortable and not let joe get to him
Lol everyone was right on the Durk topic. I don’t know why people are picking sides. Holding him accountable as an adult doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge his trauma-induced decision making. Everything doesn’t need to be A or B. A & B are both correct.
Excuses