The unexpected landing of the Victron Cerbo GX on the PowerWall 2.1 - the saviour of communication?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
  • I finally show what is in the mystery box. It is very exciting stuff what Ed from Off-Grid Power Systems has send me. UNBELIEVABLE what he put in this parcel! So, I give him a nice plug for that! Thanks a lot, Ed!
    We are continuing working on the new PowerWall 2.1 and install some cable ducts for the cable runs. The Victron Cerbo GX is certainly a fantastic device with a lot, I mean A LOT of communication ports all around. We quickly mount this on the new PowerWall as well. I need a new name for the Cerbo to connect to the Victron VRM, so please leave any suggestions down in the comment section.
    I also have some... aeh not so good news, I guess... from Seplos again. I really don't understand the philosophy about their product design for this new BMS 🤷‍♂️
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  • @rahsomali
    @rahsomali 2 года назад +14

    you deserve more. you're our unofficial lab. I don't buy things before I check your verdict.. I honestly think you should make a "wishlist" then put all the things you would love to have. most of us are happy to get them for you.

    • @pete9501
      @pete9501 2 года назад +8

      True, but what is the lab for? You might think its about batteries, but I have a feeling that is just a cover story, its actually about beer 🙂

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +4

      It is all about the beer and sharing my experience...😂
      I already have most of the equipment now but yeah, I still have some items on my list but we will get there over time.

  • @evil17
    @evil17 2 года назад +2

    Name: Off Grid Garage Cerbo GX. Another great video Andy and a very nice new toy to play with.
    Waited ages for a com cable for my 3 x Seplos “Suntorque” 5kw batteries, it arrived, and i still cant get communication with the BMS’s. After 6 months of ginning around I have got them working ok, sort of, but they have been a real hassle to get going right. I bumped the voltage a little (56v) from 55.2v and they jumped from around 70% to 98-100% soon after, so I am guessing the SOC reporting is actually triggered by voltage, but that is a big jump from 70-100%, hopefully this has reset the BMS and it will work better now & Ill drop off the voltage again. Love ur vids & look forward them. Cheers

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Thanks for sharing, Evan. I hope Seplos can get it sorted as I have the JK-BMSes on my fingertips and ready to go. I won't be mucking around much with the Seplos any more if they don't work.

  • @4x4TruckOtto
    @4x4TruckOtto 2 года назад +1

    Great Andy 😊. No new suggestion because already mentioned: OGG Cerbo GX. In a few months i will start to install my own off grid system in my expedition truck with a Cerbo GX. I learned much from you. Thank you. Keep going on. Greetings from South Tyrol in Italy. 😊

  • @FutureSystem738
    @FutureSystem738 2 года назад +2

    As always - thanks Andy, great stuff. 👍
    You’ll be able to keep the lights on in your whole street by the time you’ve finished building your Powerwalls.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      Hahaha, yeah, maybe... but we're planning on getting a 2nd EV in a few months so I will need a bit of power myself...

  • @ascenttev6022
    @ascenttev6022 2 года назад +7

    Awesome as always Andy.
    Ed Jones truly wowed me.
    Off-Grid Garage J.Ed in honour of Ed Jones sounds cool.

  • @coastalchaos839
    @coastalchaos839 2 года назад +1

    Watching you from the UK using stored sun power! Thank you Andy for your work and educational videos.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Great, love it when people get inspired and do their own projects! Thanks a lot.

  • @pulith5220
    @pulith5220 2 года назад

    "Off grid garage Ed" as a thank you for him. Great one as always.

  • @airgead5391
    @airgead5391 2 года назад +1

    Nice! I have a Cerbo GX too, so I will follow all your testing with glee!

  • @onthelake9554
    @onthelake9554 2 года назад +3

    Thank you Off Grid Power Systems for supporting Andy !

  • @douglasmarquis3446
    @douglasmarquis3446 2 года назад +1

    Welcome to the Cerbo GX world, I really like mine and I think you are going to enjoy your's.

  • @tujuprojects
    @tujuprojects 2 года назад +4

    Now Cerbo, next Pylontech. You’re slowly getting there.

  • @davidmills2266
    @davidmills2266 2 года назад +1

    Great video Andy....so funny. looking forward to seing outcome as ive been using a cerbo

  • @MrSqueegey
    @MrSqueegey 2 года назад +4

    First thing,love the secret beer fridge.

  • @maczista2153
    @maczista2153 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video’s, Name it Off-2-Grid! Greetings from Holland❤

  • @gumpster6
    @gumpster6 2 года назад

    Very generous of Ed to donate some items. I'm not familiar with the Cerbo GX but look forward to seeing if it provides anything beyond what you already had.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      The Cerbo acts basically as the communication central point, same as the Raspberry Pi does. They both run the exact same software. The Cerbo has the advantage of having all these connection points and advanced functionality with programming and relays outputs.

    • @gumpster6
      @gumpster6 2 года назад

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like anyone "needing" the Cerbo would be a rare case (as the Raspberry Pi seems to have served you well). I hope you are able to find a use for the extra features.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      @@gumpster6 The Raspi is totally fine for for these installations. But they are very hard to get and if, prices are super high. So there is not much to save when using a Pi vs the Cerbo.

  • @roaxth
    @roaxth 2 года назад +2

    Andy, your intro was great as always.

  • @pedromoonunit430
    @pedromoonunit430 2 года назад +4

    Andy please straighten your Cerbo GX the crookedness is triggering my OCD. 😁

    • @lexicase8805
      @lexicase8805 2 года назад +1

      I came to the comments to see if anyone else had said this, i agree! This is off grid garage not the wonky grid garage! 🤣

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      I'm really surprised how many people picked up on that. 😂

  • @stephenmayers4033
    @stephenmayers4033 2 года назад +1

    Another fantastic vid Andy, What style. You could name the new setup a thingamebob!!

  • @excillisbank2611
    @excillisbank2611 2 года назад

    Tout simplement INCROYABLE et merci aussi ED !🤩

  • @jimduke5545
    @jimduke5545 2 года назад +2

    “Vicky,” the off grid power wall

  • @juergwyser6520
    @juergwyser6520 2 года назад +9

    Andy, please check which production number the Cerbo has. The most recent one have a quality issue and the power input and can only stand 12 and 24 Volts but NOT 48V, except you solder a capacitor over the DC input! Quite a shame for a quality company like Victron. I bought one and burned it, now I know why......

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +2

      I know... that's now circling for a while out there. Thanks for reminding everyone.

  • @tujuprojects
    @tujuprojects 2 года назад +6

    If you put 48v into it, it will break it. See the Victron forum for more info.

    • @tujuprojects
      @tujuprojects 2 года назад

      Name it Off-grid smoked! 😊

    • @HolgerNestmann
      @HolgerNestmann 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for that!

    • @tujuprojects
      @tujuprojects 2 года назад

      @@HolgerNestmann i was lucky to feed only 12V to it even my bank is 48v. Saved a lot of money with that.

    • @HolgerNestmann
      @HolgerNestmann 2 года назад +1

      @@tujuprojects Yeah, I didn‘t know and it is hanging off the 48V System right now on my remote property. If I cant find such a capacitor I will feed 12v to it too

    • @tujuprojects
      @tujuprojects 2 года назад

      @@HolgerNestmann we should be entitled for refund. Some moneny back or discounts from coming purchases.

  • @martdaymo
    @martdaymo 2 года назад +2

    Finally something to watch

  • @davidhancock7377
    @davidhancock7377 2 года назад +2

    You have to call the power wall ( Ed Jones) 😁😁

  • @airgead5391
    @airgead5391 2 года назад +1

    Man, you have some funny birds there over in Australia, and at least one funny bloke too!

  • @BeastMovies
    @BeastMovies 2 года назад +3

    Wow, $100 for a $5 fuse. Must be pure gold from Victron.

    • @rbartsch
      @rbartsch 2 года назад +2

      No, Platinum. 😉

    • @davidb.5544
      @davidb.5544 2 года назад

      There are huge differences in specifications for fuses and the higher the voltage and higher the interrupt capacity the more expensive they get.

    • @CollinBaillie
      @CollinBaillie 2 года назад

      @@davidb.5544 The and a "captive market" under warranty terms and conditions...

  • @alexb.6800
    @alexb.6800 2 года назад +2

    My favorite RUclips channel!

  • @wayne8113
    @wayne8113 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Andy, (Off-Grid Garage Ed GX)

  • @LITTLEEXPERIMENTCHANNEL1
    @LITTLEEXPERIMENTCHANNEL1 2 года назад +1

    Its good to see a reputable solar mentor cracking a beer open every now and then while we are learning from all the content.
    Its a bit like going to an IPAF course and seeing your instructor doing the same so you can pass the course more relaxed.

  • @IXISSV
    @IXISSV 2 года назад +1

    "Big Blue Box" 👍👍 cos its all going to be blue victron stuff 😁

  • @tedhamilton2362
    @tedhamilton2362 2 года назад +2

    Off-Grid Garage Cerbo GX

  • @SoluSolaire
    @SoluSolaire 2 года назад +1

    Enjoy the Cerbo ! Andy !

  • @marioegal9156
    @marioegal9156 2 года назад +1

    Name: Offgrid Garage vici (Vici for victron)
    Why don’t you try a Batrium BMS, it can manage many cluster together. It would be interesting
    You are the best 👍🏻 weiter so

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Thanks Mario.
      I'm in contact with Batrium for a while but wanted to test consumer grade BMS. Not many people will buy the (overpriced) Batrium solution.

  • @KevIsOffGrid
    @KevIsOffGrid 2 года назад +2

    Off Grid Blue Garage - for the fact that its more Victron heavy than your other ;)

  • @jean-denislamarre1560
    @jean-denislamarre1560 2 года назад +1

    Peter ! You should call it Peter !

  • @milchmann2007
    @milchmann2007 2 года назад +2

    Sehr schönes Video. Schön zu sehen, das dir das Oettinger Beer auch down under schmeckt.😊 Du machst es sehr locker und ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg. Liebe Grüße aus Germany. Ich baue auch eine PV-3 Phasen Anlage mit Victron Komponenten auf

  • @jamiebrock7157
    @jamiebrock7157 2 года назад

    Oh wow signature solar just came out with a video 2 hours after Andy's about the victron serbo.. what synchronicity

  • @howardadams4072
    @howardadams4072 2 года назад +15

    Caution with the Cerbo GX as l think the HDMI metal socket is battery negative. My system developed a positive earth fault, and I blew up my first Cerbo when I added a mains powered LCD monitor which earthed the HDMI lead screening.

    • @davidmills2266
      @davidmills2266 2 года назад +4

      great heads up!!! Had it connected to a big screen tv with no issue temporarily but will think again after hearing this! Cheers

    • @repairman2be250
      @repairman2be250 2 года назад

      Then there should be a large warning somewhere.

    • @davidmills2266
      @davidmills2266 2 года назад

      Although also possible theres a short in the hdmi-usb cable

    • @howardadams4072
      @howardadams4072 2 года назад

      @@davidmills2266 No I had a full earth short to my positive Aux supply which was Breaker'd at 6A. So, the 13A UK socket earth was at +25V potential DC, through the LCD monitor, through the HDMI lead and big spark when the earth pin touched the socket and no Cerbo GX anymore. So, I assumed the Cerbo GX HDMI socket shield is at -VE potential?

    • @wideawaketotruth5301
      @wideawaketotruth5301 2 года назад

      Hey Andy, thanks for keeping us on the inside. Cheers my friend!

  • @PowerPaulAu
    @PowerPaulAu 2 года назад +9

    The Cerbo GX is so so so easy to use and set up compared to the RasPi, you'll love it. I'm about to put one in my van (yes I finally bit the bullet and went full Victron).
    And the Ruuvitags are something a customer of mine installs all the time with my batteries. he often puts one in the fridge, one in the freezer, one in the battery/inverter compartment of a caravan, and sometimes even more. I've just convinced Solar4RV's (a shop down here in Melbourne) to stock them, so now you know where you can order more when you want to monitor each BMS as well as the SPAT fridge. ;)

    • @holdenman8850
      @holdenman8850 2 года назад +1

      I'm guessing that would be Matt at Extreme?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Thanks a lot Paul. I'll have a look what the prices are with them.

    • @extremeacc101
      @extremeacc101 2 года назад +1

      @@holdenman8850
      Hey, I know that guy. 😊

    • @holdenman8850
      @holdenman8850 2 года назад

      @@extremeacc101 You know everybody lol

  • @ragohy
    @ragohy 2 года назад +6

    Hi Andy, I would name it "Off Grid Garage GX".
    Btw your Cerbo GX is mounted "krumm" 🤔.
    Cheers, Henry 🍻

  • @pedromoonunit430
    @pedromoonunit430 2 года назад +3

    'The Off Grid Garage Blue Wall'

  • @GapRecordingsNamibia
    @GapRecordingsNamibia 2 года назад +5

    May I suggest using the touch50 or touch70 screens? 2 reasons, 1: it can be powered directly from the cerbo by the usb port next to the hdmi port, 2: it is touch sensitive. This will stop any funny earthing issues by using externaly powered moniters.
    Congrats on the cerbo,I had to ditch my pi because of no canhat availability in my area, I got hold of a venus gx.
    Just a quick tip for the CAN setup, my batteries did not get detected, the reason was the incorrect can settings, my gx was on "VE.Can & Lynx Ion BMS (250kbit/s).
    It should be CAN-bus BMS (500 kbit/s).
    Access this from: Settings - Services - VE.Can port - CAN-bus profile. Also the RJ45 is not a straight or cross (A-B) configuration, so just make sure you get the correct config for VE.Can and your battery(s)...
    Good luck Andy, lots of decisions.

    • @romeowhiskey1146
      @romeowhiskey1146 2 года назад +1

      Touch 70! Bigger is always better!

    • @djordjeblaga7815
      @djordjeblaga7815 2 года назад +1

      Fun fact: There's 7" Touch screens available for a fraction of the price, they're made for Raspis. About 80€ instead of 350... Although I haven't gotten the touch functionality working on mine yet, but it might just be because I don't have a micro usb cable with data pins...

    • @GapRecordingsNamibia
      @GapRecordingsNamibia 2 года назад

      Do you perhaps have a link?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Thank you.
      I like the wireless display far more than having a HDMI connection. I'm using my old tablet for that reason. I also use the remote console on my mobile phone and computer inside the house.
      Yeah, the CAN needs to be on 500kB/s for the Seplos battery for example.

  • @dirkityourself
    @dirkityourself 2 года назад +1

    Nice to see Miss Piggy again on 5:49.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      She hasn't been in the videos for a while, ey?

    • @dirkityourself
      @dirkityourself 2 года назад +1

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Yes, I've been thinking about watching your videos at all once she's gone. (Spaaaaaaß!!!) :)

  • @peters8080
    @peters8080 2 года назад +1

    Give me a breaker over a fuse, call it a personal preference. Combined switch i and high interrupt capacity fusing.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      Yes, I'm with you on that. However fuses have certain advantages in some cases...

  • @gavinnoname1424
    @gavinnoname1424 2 года назад +1

    Go for it Andy, replace the Seplos BMS in the case with a JKBMS. As a fellow Seplos 280DIY owner I'd like to see a BMS swap out

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      I'll wait for their replacement BMSes first and if they still don't perform...

  • @upnorthandpersonal
    @upnorthandpersonal 2 года назад +2

    Ruuvi is great - I have them all over the place. Finnish company by the way ;)

  • @IanNature7
    @IanNature7 2 года назад +1

    „mobil OffGridGarage“ of course 🤔 i mean you „can“ 😂 next to the OffGrid Tower 🥳

  • @frejaresund3770
    @frejaresund3770 2 года назад +2

    Peter grid garage.
    Off Peter garage.
    Off grid Peter.

  • @ToddDesiato
    @ToddDesiato 2 года назад +1

    Off-Grid Garage Cerbo

  • @rbartsch
    @rbartsch 2 года назад +3

    Andy, just name the Cerbo GX "Off-Grid Garage GX" for "Garage Xtended" 😉

  • @peteradshead2383
    @peteradshead2383 2 года назад +1

    Now you have the Cerbo GX are you going to have to get a new set of VE-direct cable , or can you still use the VE-direct to usb cables ?
    Because to me the Cerbo GX used a different set of cable which are cheaper and doesn't look like there is any electronics between the 2 VE-direct plugs ?.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Hi Peter, We can still use the USB adapters as well as VE.Direct cables. It can be a mix of all sort of connections now. That is one advantage of the Cerbo, it takes everything.
      You're correct, the VE.Direct cables don't use any converters, it's a pure RS232 signal I believe. Victron still recommends using the VE.Direct to RS232 adapter because of the galvanic isolation circuits they have.

  • @DennisLaDenmark
    @DennisLaDenmark 2 года назад +1

    With the cerbo GX the touch screen are powered by the USB port next to the HDMI. I added a noname 7"touch screen and it woks perfectly at mine. But now I'm trying to make a raspberryPI VenusOS for my brother and it seems to work fine with Touchscreen after a little coding on the PI.

    • @doucet2006
      @doucet2006 2 года назад +1

      Do you have the code you use for the raspberry pi?
      I have the Victron logo but missing the coding

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      I think you can use Kevin's project here on Githup for that: github.com/kwindrem/RpiDisplaySetup

    • @DennisLaDenmark
      @DennisLaDenmark 2 года назад

      @@doucet2006 yes I have the code. I'm using venusOS 2.91 on a RaspberryPI 2 with Touchscreen. And now it works fine.

  • @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading
    @Dutch_off_grid_homesteading Год назад +1

    Heya, oh wouw you have a very good community here. off grid garage ed's or something

  • @IndependentNewsMedia
    @IndependentNewsMedia 2 года назад +1

    OffGridGarageMini - as everything has been miniaturised.

  • @richeagleton5285
    @richeagleton5285 2 года назад +1

    Where do you get your cable run covers the. Cable ways I need a way to cover my conked without costing an arm and a leg and I like the plastic run ways

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      I bought them at a local electrical store but you can also get them online from eBay and Amazon.

  • @Sanwizard1
    @Sanwizard1 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for pushing Seplos though! I have rhe exact same issue with 4 x 6.9KW Masons and 3 x 14KW Masons.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Oh wow, I can't believe they still haven't fixed that yet. I assume that only the new BMS can communicate between different batteries. They should replace yours for free.

  • @robertmclean6629
    @robertmclean6629 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your vids!!!!!

  • @mmmmmmacke
    @mmmmmmacke 2 года назад +1

    Name it "The Peterwall" ✌😆

  • @Lawiah0
    @Lawiah0 2 года назад +1

    Hey Andy, is the Off-Grid Garage Logo half-full or half-empty?

  • @photocromax
    @photocromax 2 года назад +2

    I would suggest "Off Grid GarageX". BTW, with actual Raspberry Pi prices and unobtanium availability, the Cerbo GX is starting to be more appealing, also considering that you don't have to buy usb to victron adapters.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Great suggestion, I like it.
      I've got a Raspi on back order for 7 months now, still no ETA. so this is not an option any more, I guess.
      Victron still recommends the VE.Direct to RS232 adapters due to the isolation of the circuits when connecting to other gear.

  • @jamess1787
    @jamess1787 2 года назад +1

    "Off-grid CGX"
    👍

  • @bernhardeigenhuis3522
    @bernhardeigenhuis3522 2 года назад

    Good video, is there an Chinese alternative for the Victron USB to RS485 cable to connect ET112 to Cerbo GX?

  • @batterynerd8779
    @batterynerd8779 2 года назад +1

    Hey Andy, what is your experience with those Amazon 100 Amp breakers? Like those with the red switch. Do they have high resistance? High heat? Great video thanks!

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      You mean these ones? amzn.to/3bsxOSD
      I have used them once and they didn't work. I would not trust them at all.
      Use these ones, they are the real deal and SAFE: amzn.to/3fpEqW3

  • @stanislavmlcuch2085
    @stanislavmlcuch2085 2 года назад +1

    OGG PowerWall 2.1 😆
    Btw. I am waiting for the Cerbo GX for almost 4 weeks 🤨

  • @TrevorFraserAU
    @TrevorFraserAU 2 года назад +1

    Everything should just be called Peter..... and if there is any confusion, just append the next available number... 😂

  • @tedreumer
    @tedreumer 2 года назад +1

    Off Grid Garage Cerbo

  • @the_0ther_0ne_59
    @the_0ther_0ne_59 2 года назад +1

    I have a Victron SmartSolar charge controller 250 | 85 an I intend to buy a LiFePO4 battery. Is there any danger for this charger if the BMS of the battery disconnects the battery and the charger is still connected to the solar panels array?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      I have tested this many times with my controllers and disconnected the battery under full charge. The Victron controllers can handle that and go into absorption mode/voltage, still supplying power to your loads if they can keep up.

  • @rahsomali
    @rahsomali 2 года назад

    ahaha I am definitely gonna try the "off-grid-garage for 30% off. love your humor Andy 😂

  • @mikehotel5652
    @mikehotel5652 2 года назад +1

    Off-Grid Garage Ed

  • @jean-sebastienhamel9762
    @jean-sebastienhamel9762 2 года назад +1

    Ok, but how does the raspberry pi communicate with the charge controller, shunt, inverters?

  • @Curare0202
    @Curare0202 2 года назад +1

    Hi Andy, why not name it the "ED-System"?

  • @jadu79
    @jadu79 2 года назад +1

    my suggested name is Off-Grid Garage 2.1 or 3.0 (so it shows what build it is)

  • @heppyfpv1847
    @heppyfpv1847 2 года назад +3

    You are so funny, Andy 😀😀😀

  • @mikeunum
    @mikeunum 2 года назад +1

    15:19 - finally the Cerbo GX my lovely grown up guy toy.
    @Off-Grid Garage: a new Name for the Cerbo GX -> Einstein Off-Grid Garage
    Dutch price for the Cerbo GX is 350,- Euro and it is worth it. We / I use it in every customer installation.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      I would definitely use it in customer installations as well. No way you would setup a Raspi just to save $100

  • @gjbevers
    @gjbevers 2 года назад

    Andy, name the new system: Off Grid Power System, as a thank for the donation.
    I love all your videos, very helpful. Myself I set up a 45kW lithium system with a bunch of Victron equipment. Available under Victron World as Sinchu Orphanage.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      But that may collide with Ed's own system if he sets one up.
      I'll have a look at your system in VRM. Thanks for sharing, always interested in looking at other systems...
      Edit: Found it! Wow, look at all these MPPTs you're using. I like it very much!

    • @gjbevers
      @gjbevers 2 года назад +1

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Thanks Andy for your interest. Indeed, it's a complicated system. 9 MPPT's, 3 x MG Lithium rack of 15kW (45kW total), Cerbo GX, Smartshunt. Before I had lead acid batteries, with all Mastervolt products. Mastervolt isn't going forward with their software, so I changed to Victron.
      What you don't see is that also are connected 3 x Mastervolt inverters, connected as 1 phase, nominal 12kW max 21kW, 3 x 80A chargers and an automatic control for charging through grid power / generator. Grid power isn't always available or too low in voltage. The (selfmade) system determines if gris power is standby and proper voltage, if not the generator (3 cilinder Deutz diesel) will automatic start until for a certain time the grid power is steady. Further a windmill and still a lot of Mastervolt distributors and shunts.
      I limited the charge (and discharge) in the DVCC of the Cerbo GX to 450A, if not charging can peak 600A what is too much for the system and cables. This because we are completely off grid and I calculated the system so that we still have enough power in the raining season.
      Keep on doing the great job! Your video's are exactly what people want, simple, honest and clear.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      @@gjbevers Very, very interesting. Thanks a lot for sharing. That's an awesome system you have there and well designed from what I can read. Great work!

  • @brianlawrence7986
    @brianlawrence7986 2 года назад +1

    How about the Off-Grid Garage Peter for the name lol

  • @Tek69
    @Tek69 2 года назад +2

    Hey Andy, I have the Venus GX, it has a Beagle Bone Black as it’s brain, interesting to see what the Cerbo uses as it’s brain. Are you going to crack it open to see?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      I won't open it, it is still under warranty. I'm sure you can run a script which shows these information?

    • @Tek69
      @Tek69 2 года назад

      There’s no tamper seal on it, no one will know , be adventurous live dangerously. 😂

  • @kelgadeke5102
    @kelgadeke5102 2 года назад +1

    “The Ed Jones Spat Optimiser PW 2.1”

  • @danmc1313
    @danmc1313 2 года назад +2

    I've a stack of boxes of containing the exact same system ready to build, right down to the Seplos Mason 280AH (Although with the 200A BMS fortunately). This series of videos could not have come at a better time. Thank you. I also have a JK BMS en route too. Would you use both BMS' in the Mason or only one? I like the idea of the JK's active balancing, yet the Seplos is actually designed to fit in the case and has the LCD. If only one can be used it's a dlllema!

    • @GapRecordingsNamibia
      @GapRecordingsNamibia 2 года назад +1

      Yes. I agree with everything @Ben C Naylor has said. If I may add to that... Definitely DO NOT try and use two BMS's on one battery, that is looking for a heap of trouble and a world of hurt when it DOES go wrong, and believe me..... It will inevitably go wrong.... Ask me how I know this? 😁 Secondly, JK does have screens, you would need to "customize" the enclosure for it to fit. If I am not mistaken, Andy has one with the display? I stand to be corrected though. Next, If you are doing this to get CAN communication you need to make sure that your receiving devices can interpret the CAN language used by the JK stuff. If I were you, I would just make sure to get the same model of BMS make sure it supports native CAN and RS485 and use that.... It will be the least amount of trouble. Hope this helps. Good luck!

    • @danmc1313
      @danmc1313 2 года назад +1

      @@GapRecordingsNamibia ​ @Ben C Naylor Thanks for the info. In hindsight I should have just bought the NEEEEY Active Balancer instead. On the plus side I've a back up BMS I suppose. I will certainly check out the screens.

  • @alsemi-back-up579
    @alsemi-back-up579 2 года назад

    First Power Wall Was Better!!!!! Must Be Nice To Have So Much Money You Can Afford All The Victron Equipment For 2 Power Walls!!!!

  • @juergwyser6520
    @juergwyser6520 2 года назад

    Question to the pros: do you connect the Cerbo (or Raspberry) directly to the battery or after the BMS? I just had an ugly experience as the BMS triggered the low voltage condition (battery empty) and therefore the Cerbo also switched off. To avoid that I consider to connect the Cerbo directly to the battery. Any experiences in the community? thx for any reply!

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      I would say, if the BMS has disconnected for any reason, that's it. Something went wrong and you need to look at it anyway and change your design.

  • @svajunasslavickas8141
    @svajunasslavickas8141 2 года назад +1

    Off-Grid Garage Victron

  • @jamespitstock3427
    @jamespitstock3427 2 года назад +3

    Hi Andy. I'd be very interested if you do some testing with Venus OS Large on the Cerbo GX. The Node Red functionality looks useful. "Off-grid Spat Cooler"

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Thanks James, I have the 'Large' already running on my second Pi for testing purposes. Node Red is another of these many projects here on the channel.

  • @A2an
    @A2an 2 года назад +2

    Call it "Blue Ed"

  • @stefankulcsar823
    @stefankulcsar823 2 года назад +1

    Name it "Off-Grid Garage 2.0"

  • @rcourt1977
    @rcourt1977 2 года назад +1

    If you want to save money on the BMS-CAN/A cable you can just link add 3 link cables (+/-/GND) to a cheap RJ45 eithernet 2 port socket and then just use chap ethernet cables.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Yeah, I was going to make my own cable, just cut one in the middle and solder the 3 pins we need. Victron has the pin-out on their website.

  • @ksredadare
    @ksredadare 2 года назад

    Hallo, eine Frage wie sind deine Erfahrungen mit dem externen Bluetooth Adapter am Cerbo? Bringt dieser eine bessere Verbindung oder auch mehr Optionen für andere Geräte? VG aus München

  • @chogardjr.
    @chogardjr. 2 года назад

    You don't need the bluetooth adapter for the CerboGX if you connect it to the internet. I have my CerboGX connected via Ethernet to a 4G router/modem. I use VRM Portal (free from Victron) to connect and monitor EVERYTHING connected to my system. In the VRM Portal it gives you the "Remote Console" where you can access the CerboGX as if you had the touch screen connected to it. I highly suggest looking into the VRM Portal.
    I have a Quattro 24/5000/120, Lynx Shunt, Lynx PowerIn, Lynx Distributer, Victron MPPT 150/60, Victron MPPT 150/100, CerboGX...connected to 2 solar arrays - 2200w & 2000W charging six 12v300a LFP connected 2S3P for 23kWh battery backup.
    PLEASE LOOK INTO Victron's VRM PORTAL!

    • @cuisinartOH1
      @cuisinartOH1 2 года назад +1

      The Bluetooth dongle is for using the RuuviTag, or any other BLE accessories Andy wants to experiment with.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Charles must be new to the channel. I'm using VRM for over a year now 😊

  • @thattoolguy9432
    @thattoolguy9432 2 года назад +1

    Bended Off-Grid Garage 😁

  • @DrCoolZic
    @DrCoolZic 2 года назад

    I agree that it is unacceptable that the different versions of the BMS can’t communicate. But in order for you to test the two batteries working together can’t you negotiate with them that they send you two 200A bms. This configuration should work and should allow you to perform the tests.
    Another thing that concern me is the fact that the Seplos BMS has only one CAN port? Usually a CAN bus needs to be terminated on each side with a terminator (like it is done with the Victron equipments). It will probably work without it but this is definitely a bad practice unless they have added a terminator inside the BMS?

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      Yes, I have asked for a replacement of the BMS and they wanted to wait until the new BMS come out in a few days. They will send them over as soon as available. We hopefully can just replace them in the existing batteries and the will start talking.
      The BMS have an internal CAN terminator, so need to be at the end of the bus.
      This is something I never understand from their design perspective. Why not use solely CAN communication between the BMSes instead of RS485. It would make life a lot easier. I understand that some inverters use RS485 for communication rather than CAN and Seplos wants to cover as many requirements as possible but having two different BMS versions for either case is certainly a messy solution.

    • @DrCoolZic
      @DrCoolZic 2 года назад

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia If they need to send you new BMS that probably means that a hardware modification is needed? Otherwise they could have sent you only new firmware!

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      @@DrCoolZic I think it's a new designed BMS with additional functions alike Bluetooth (so it needs this extra chip anyway). Not entirely sure how they want to marketing this as many people seems to have communication issues with their BMS and there is no real solution but only some sub-optimal workarounds. Many would want a new working BMS from them...

  • @nvranas
    @nvranas 2 года назад +1

    ΚΑΛΩΣ ΟΡΙΣΕΣ ΣΤΗΝ BLUE POWER ΟΜΑΔΑ!

  • @ΝώνταςΑθανασιάδης
    @ΝώνταςΑθανασιάδης 8 месяцев назад

    Hello andy !!!!please please please ,help me. I bought the jk bms JK RESS Active Balance BMS PB2A16S20P - (7S - 16S) - 200A - LiFePO4 / Li-Ion / LTO , and i dont know what cable to buy for the cerbo

  • @jeffpowell1616
    @jeffpowell1616 2 года назад

    I am very interested in the cerbo gx. Are you planning to use those relays for anything?

  • @jogi_54
    @jogi_54 2 года назад +1

    Honestly, I can't understand, that a Fuse, which needs tools, to be exchanged or disconnected is the same, al a breaker
    Pls help

  • @berndausdemallgau3743
    @berndausdemallgau3743 2 года назад +1

    Öttingerbier aus Deutschland, cool

  • @keithcress1335
    @keithcress1335 2 года назад +1

    Call it Rat Face. I kid! Why would you call it anything but the "Off Grid Garage Cerbo GX"? I agree with Evan. Could even drop the "GX".
    Also I agree., life's too short I'd love to see you replace those Siphlic BMSes with some JKs.

  • @mampfi442
    @mampfi442 2 года назад +1

    What about Off-Grid Powerwall?

  • @TheOffGridShop
    @TheOffGridShop 2 года назад

    Have you looked at using a batruim BMS?

    • @davidb.5544
      @davidb.5544 2 года назад +1

      I know people have already asked Andy about that BMS in past but is not as streamlined like some of the other BMSs that have phone apps. It would be nice however if Andy could test it out since it is from a company right in his backyard and directly works with a Victron system.

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад +1

      Yes, I'm in contact with Batrium for a while but never pulled the trigger on it. I like the consumer grade BMSs. I'm sure Batrium will just work once you muddle through all the setup and programming but not many will buy one due to the overpriced components.

    • @TheOffGridShop
      @TheOffGridShop 2 года назад

      @@OffGridGarageAustralia Ah ok. Get it. I will shoot you an email. Thank you Mike

  • @elflames1280
    @elflames1280 2 года назад +1

    Name submission:
    O-GG-Mini_Ed
    Like the name Its compact yet its going to be mighty.

  • @jmnasman
    @jmnasman 2 года назад +1

    Any touch screen with HDMI will work. It's cheaper than buying the Victron unit. Just get JK BMS if they work with Victron

    • @OffGridGarageAustralia
      @OffGridGarageAustralia  2 года назад

      I would rather prefer a wireless solution for such a screen so I can have it inside my house. I'm using my old tablet for that purpose at the moment connecting to the IP of the Raspi.

    • @somebody1869
      @somebody1869 2 года назад

      I finally added a Waveshare 5” screen. It was a hassle needing to use my phone on the boat. I wanted a solution that would work after my phone inevitably goes for an unplanned swim… again!