Abandoned On a Dive Trip and Lost Forever | Last Moments
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2021
- When you're stranded at sea, it's only a matter of time before you perish. But how do you go?
"Thomas Joseph Lonergan (born December 28, 1964) and Eileen Cassidy Lonergan (née Hains; born March 3, 1969) were a married American couple who were unintentionally abandoned in the Coral Sea off Australia's northeast coast on January 25, 1998, during a group scuba diving trip on MV Outer Edge. Their absences were not noted by the boat crew until two days later on January 27 and while search efforts resulted in the discovery of personal effects presumed to be those of the Lonergans, they did not lead to their discovery. Their whereabouts are unknown, though both are presumed dead.
The couple's disappearance and deaths resulted in "a crisis of confidence in north Queensland's dive industry" and resulted in tighter mandatory safety regulations for diving boats in Australia. Their disappearances also served as the inspiration for the 2003 film Open Water."
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Oklahoma bombing video when? God I’m fucking annoying if you have been reading this shit.
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Seriously one of the scariest ways to die. To sit there for dozens of hours knowing you're going to die, and your last moments being you drowning, probably being awake, but not having enough strength to keep yourself above the water.
@@Leon-gt8gm Later in the video, Qxir says that they probably took them off in a state of delirium.
So basically like Monday mornings..?
@@Leon-gt8gm does it hurt to finish the video before arguing?
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if you are a healthy adult, take little sips of saltwater your system can handle it, keep your head moist to keep evaporative cooling going and never give up, never surrender, survive for as long as possible - miracles sometimes happen
the captain is ultimately responsible for making sure he doesn't leave anyone behind. he's the freakin captain! he didn't kill them per se, but his negligence did lead to their death.
And he's not even punished! No wonder the diving tourism suffered. No one want to be killed there
Its Killing without intent, aka manslaughter
Also a poorly managed company which also leads to these sorts of scenarios where safety is compromised.
I'd say he did kill them.
He was knowingly their only way yo survive and he took it from them.
If he didn't, they would survive, if he did, they would be guaranteed to die.
Pretty much a definition of killing in my book.
@@kos2919 didnt you hear he didnt get charged with a crime but his company was fined to bankruptsy
The fact that the pair's diaries were taken out of context sickens me. EVEN IF that were true and the pair attempted suicide it IS STILL THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LEADER FOR THEIR CHARGES. Straight disgusting.
why take such an elaborate way to commit suicide? Among other people? It boggles me that nobody cared to check on them... but this probably can happen, although seldomly. Imagine a group of tourists heading to dive, there might be pairs, there might be bigger groups and where was this unlucky pair, nobody had enough time to talk to each other and probably they all appeared 'the same' in their gear. The biggest mistake was not counting the entire party. There might be smaller groups reporting to the captain that 'they are all here' and maybe someone was anxious getting back, especially under the hot sun. Let's not forget the sun rays reflection from the surface of the water. During this confusion the cap or his crew could have simply asked the divers if everyone is ready to head back and gotten the positive answer.
Their thoughts in their diaries have nothing to do with getting left behind in the middle of the ocean. That’s not how anyone plans to go. Also what was the point of starting a new life secretly? They could just move like normal people do if they wanted. Dumb theories for sure.
It wasn’t suicidal. That’s just the normal thoughts of average men.
An attempt by the insurance company and charter group to sidestep responsibility!
The use of a few sentences from the diaries is pathetic, and everybody involved in this horror story should be permanently banned from your dives. Some should go to jail for extreme negligence.
Nobody noticed 2 sets of diving gear, a left over bag, or that 2 people were missing. Despite the fact that people apparently remembered seeing them before they were left behind.... This is one of those stories where it feels like they were forgotten on purpose
But why would they be forgotten tho???
More likely the people who "remember" seeing them left behind thought they were left there for a reason.
Or they're just making it up to be part of the controversy. People will do anything for drama.
The correct way to manage a dive trip is for ONE crew member to be responsible for counting heads. When it's not clear whose responsibility it is, or if it's everyone's responsibility, then everyone might assume that someone else has done it.
@Amy F They cant visually count everyone? Bro what? They have eyes?
@@froglifes6829 that's not what they said
We can always count on Qxir for another whimsical and uplifting tale to brighten up your day
Yeah, im always just really depressed but whenever i get to hear about these wonderfull tales i cant help but feel like a little kid sittin on my paps lap listening to some old war stories.
I am also of the opinion Carthage should be destroyed
Oh yes ofc
Hmm, you seem like the person who would serve the servants
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@@ramirogaraycochea4292 I would but I’m a little Dumb for that. People call me a Senseless Apprentice because I’ve got Tourette’s
Tour guide: hm feels like i forgot something
Also tour guide: still nevermind ehh
If you forgot then it wasn’t important.
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It was kinda the other tourist's fault too. Like how do you not realize there are two other people not on the boat?
Also the tour guide: oh, I left the garage light on!
"Oh no"
"Anyway"
Hi, I'm actually the grandson of Johnny (John Hains the first, my father is John Hains Jr.), I never would've expected to see this story become so public but my dad has told me about it and apparently was interviewed about it as well some time ago. I was actually taken aback when I saw the photo of Eileen when looking through the thumbnail playback, it's fascinating how these events of the past are still talked about to this day. Thank you for covering this, and I hope it spreads more awareness of the strong need to be focused and ensure all of the divers are together and not lost.
No offense intended but who is Johnny Hains, and what does it have to do with this story?
@@drw1926 John Hains is the father of Eileen Lonergan, the woman that died.
Theres a movie about this..
Sorry for your loss
Happened to me off Cyprus. I was about 25 years old. Unattended dive boat lost its mooring and the wind whisked it away. Cypriot dive leader swam away so I was alone. Luckily coastguard ship found me before it got dark. But definitely worst experience of my life. Being helpless to save yourself is the worst feeling ever. I remember being sea sick, an emotional wreck, and in a panic. I became very tired and wanted to sleep. The waves got quite big. I made the mistake of taking off my bouyancy jacket and straddling it so my body was out the water as much as possible, thinking that maybe a plane would spot me easier, and fish couldn't bite my legs, but I managed to hang on to the jacket. Trying to get on the coastguard ship was tough. I was exhausted and getting slammed into the side of the ship in big waves. Im very careful what boats I get on now. Its true that "Worse things do happen at sea" Although happy to say I made 50+ boat dives in UK waters without any issues. Do your research and be careful who you dive with.
I bet you the tour guide couldn’t tell his arse from his elbow let alone count all the passengers
There's way too many stoners and disinterested teenagers that end up in that line of work, especially when it comes to ocean-related activities for some reason.
There is a reason we physically count AND touch every single person as they load into a helicopter in the military.
And he's not even jailed! No wonder the diving industry suffered. No one want to dive if the company don't get punished.
If they were experienced enough to be using some of their own equipment, then they were also experienced enough to know that leaving the group/general vicinity of the dive site is a bad idea
@@kos2919 Probably the entire tourist industry suffered. You’d have to be crazy to vacation in Australia after hearing that story. If all they get is a fine for negligently leaving some couple in the middle of the ocean, they probably won’t even get that if you get killed by a spider, stingray, drop bear, or any of Australia’s millions of natural hazards.
Lesson: make friends with the boat crew on the way to the diving site
No joke. It's a good idea anytime you travel with strangers to get to know as many people as possible so they don't forget you or your face. While this incident might be rare, it's still a good idea in case you disappear under more sinister circumstances.
@@wanderinghistorian Yeah, and it works both ways. It may be you who notices someone is missing or in trouble.
Better still, count the number of passengers yourself and make sure the crew have the same figures.
When I went for a holiday in the Philippines these guys around 21 were freaking out in the lobby, so me and my girlfriend at the time we talking to them. They said they're other friend hadn't come home after a booze/dive. We looked after their stuff so they could go with the police...2 hours later we go walking along the beach and see the guys sobbing with navy around them, I'll never forget the look one of them have me when I shrugged my shoulders at him and he just shook his head slowly
Anyway, we went on a booze cruise the next day and made sure we were close mates with all the crew and passengers lol... Fucking RIP though
or don't make enemies
Ive been diving at that location. The water temp that time of year is up around 30C, so too hot to swim any real distance. There are also numerous stingers and the danger of box jelly fish. After a day out there you would be praying for a shark to finish you off. It was a huge deal in Australia when the Lonergan's vanished, and it was outrageous that nobody was held accountable in the end through punishment.
I was in the dive business for over 30 years. Divers/snorkelers get left behind REGULARLY, but most of the time there is another boat close by to bring them in. Since they are usually out of towner's, they don't sue and the owner makes a big scene of firing the crew and apologizing. After they leave, he hires everyone back and it's business as usual. Welcome to the Florida Keys 🥴
Sounds like the diving industry needs to adopt an absolute safety culture and conduct thorough investigations of any and all incidents regardless of whether loss of life happens much in the way the aviation industry does.
That’s horrible
Lol. I work in restaurants for 30 years....if people knew the truth they would never eat out again. I value your candor
@@JustOneOpinion wdym
@@JustOneOpinion please go into detail....
I remember when I did my PADI dive certification this story was part of the course to show the importance of knowing where all the divers are.
At my PADI license aswell
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They don’t do that anymore I don’t know why tho
@@thatbrittishgentleman340ye3 I did mine a couple years ago and I remember being told this story in one of the training videos. Not sure about how recently it's been updated.
@@twurtle5908 I did mine just a few weeks ago so it’s recent
That letter was pretty sad and creepy. I can’t imagine being left out in the middle of the ocean to die and drown.
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Im just wondering why they would bring something to write with while scooba diving?!
@@niks9652 Im wondering wtf how did he tred water and write that shit
I can't believe the handwriting was so calm and neat, even when for sure they'd be in extreme fear, thinking they hade no hope of making it out alive less they get external help
How tf do you NOT notice that TWO SETS of likely expensive diving gear has gone missing? And they didn't even check the bag until a day later? That must've been the single sketchiest diving company on that side of the Pacific.
"I think I forgot something."
"If you forgot, then it wasn't important."
Jesus I have ADD if I forgot it it’s most likely the most important thing I need that day.
The fact you didn't read their final words but let it simply display over the music was a truly chilling touch, one can only imagine their desperation. At least they didn't die completely alone, and had each other.
I hope they went together, I would hate to be still sane and see my spouse go loopy and drown in front of me, knowing that's what awaited me
@@TFisher1993 damn
But that also painful in a way, knowing that your beloved one is having the same fate as you.
@@risn5478 Yeah I'm with you, it's gotta be worse knowing you can't save them nor yourself.
until the first one died.
then it was alone and a corpse of someone you love :)
I used to do paddle board rentals, and you bet your irish bottom I counted each and every one of them at the end of the day. They're frickin expensive. I find it amazing the staff wouldn't keep track of their expensive diving gear, oh and the people in it too.
It might seem weird but I have a harder time understanding how they didn't miss the gear. Passengers generally take care of themselves and might walk away on their own. But if I'm the boss nobody's going home today until I know what happened to wetsuits number 37 and 38 because they are expensive and could still have people in them.
If every day the gear that is damaged gets sent out for repairs which takes days to come back, it's normal to have under-100 (percent) suits at all times.
if they need maintenance every 3 months for 2 days, that's 2/90 that's missing or an average of 2-3 suits a day. Unless you have a strict repair log, seeing 2 suits missing is probably a normal sight.
Remember, you need one suit for everyone on board not for the CAPACITY of the ship. If you have 100 suits, 10 are missing you leave port with 90 customers, come back, all suits are accounted for unless you count the people.
None of the clues are enough to raise the alarm. Missing suits are normal, forgotten bags are normal, since they were together the buddy system yields nothing.
Even if you give people tokens they lose them and you still return to port, most days, with missing tokens.
Nothing short of a passenger manifest and attention can fix this.
One BCD was marked with Lonnergan's name. It might be that they brought their own gear except for cylinders of air, if you're a big divng company you probably wouldn't notice that two cylinders were missing. I used to do volunteer work for a small and really professional diving company and you could have walked off with a tank of air without anyone noticing or caring. I accidentally had a few packs of lead shot weight (that stuff isn't super expensive though it would still cost over 100 for the amount I had because it was 'marine grade') in my BCD for about a year before I realized that it was there and gave it back.
We always got to know *everyone* who went out on the water with us however, the people were more important than the equipment.
One guy managed to get himself 'lost' (at least to us because we were diving with about 1m of visibility) until we surfaced after 5 minutes and saw him upside down kicking his feet. The idiot had knocked his weights off and being in a drysuit went to the surface feet first, head still submerged and unable to right himself.
people who are negligent or stupid are usually that way all the way down, and also there's an infinity of this kind of trip so odds are it had to happen eventually.
@@daviddavidson2357 Okay now THAT makes complete sense. You're right, they're unlikely to have written their names in rental suits. Admittedly I know zero about diving, but I would expect shared dive suits to need some kind of cleaning/drying and the mouthpieces for the regulators to need some kind of sanitizing. Checking out 50 rentals and only cleaning 48 for storage should be a red flag for someone.
Makes sense that air cylinders and weights would be both so numerous and specialized that you would worry about misplaced more than stolen. But if I sign the cheques... a suit, mask, or flippers can all too easily walk away with the user, and lots of jerks will try. We better count the loaners after every trip and keep a close eye on anyone who shows up with the same brand we use.
For those who dont know, every scuba diving suit and kit has a BCD. It's basically a life vest that you can inflate by your self Or by your oxygen tank. With a fully inflated BCD it is very difficult to go under water and every vest has a set amount of weights in the pockets of it to keep you weighted down from the sheer buoyancy of an oxygen tank. BCD's can be deflated so that the wearer can sink into the water with ease. It could be possible that the BCD's deflated and because of pure exhaustion could not manually inflate the vests. Because no air is keeping the vest up they had no choice but to take them off. Tired and sore they probably struggled and drowned with no vest. RIP
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As an Australian, I can say with certainty that sharks are not the things you should fear in the open sea, or any part of the ocean, it’s the jellyfish that are scary. Some of them you can’t even see, but you can certainly feel them.
Or Man-o-war
Yeah man im scared of jellyfish since first seeing these ugly scary creatures. And frightened of them since watching that old hollywood movie where they have nightmares become reality while living in the underwater station. I think the black guy lawrence fishburn was in the movie too
Theyre a silent invisible death. And come in huge swarms. Its so disgusting
Sharks look scary, but if you stay know how to deal with them, they are fine. Jellyfish are literally killing machines
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti Jellyfish are the closest thing we have in reality to a living slime monster from fantasy media. In fact, I believe that was the prime inspiration. Either or that way, I'm absolutely terrified of them - a living jelly which can often kill you with just a touch is something totally alien.
@@ThinBear4 since I saw football sized ones in the literal hundreds scattered all around the beach in the northsea when the Water was at the Back, it was the last time I went to a beach that is not in spain or italy. That was maybe 10 years ago and theyre increasing extremely in numbers for years now
Everything that dive slate implies is horrific, this must be one of the worst ways to go since the entire time you know what’s going to happen yet are powerless to stop it.
After the initial confusion, panic, and hours upon hours of waiting for rescue, they would've cried and said their goodbyes to each other before delirium slowly took their minds.
I've read about so many heart wrenching and terrifying tragedies like this on the internet over the years it's unbelievable. They made a film about this called open water. I can't bring myself to watch it.
My only problem with the slate is if you look at how in line and neat the righting is, imagine trying to right in the middle of the sea floating and trying to keep a float ? Sus
@@noodlebom3925 you realize thats not a photo of the actual slate right?
@@noodlebom3925 SUS?????
@@noodlebom3925 That's NOT a photo of the actual message. What you saw in this video was a transcript of the message written. So the words are correct. But the actual message written on the slate that was found were not as easy to read.
I first learned about this case from the film, "Open Water." It's still hard to fathom that no one on board noticed their absence on the return trip. The Skipper should have done jail time for this unforgivable fiasco. I always wondered if many of them weren't consuming alcohol afterwards.
I’ve worked as a commercial diver and dive master for rec tours for many years and this tragedy should never ever have happened ! It’s unforgivable and those responsible should be spending life in prison. 🤬
This hits home. I’m from Louisiana and dive regularly out of Alabama. One dive I had been separated from my dive buddy but continued on, I know it’s a mistake but that is common practice with the group and I followed their much more experienced lead. I surfaced after a standard length dive to find myself about 500 yards from the boat which was circling the bouy upwind and up current.
The current had carried me too far during my slow ascent and I had not noticed due to the murk. My BC decided then to not inflate leaving me treading water. The strong wind made a nice 3-5ft chop. I could see them but they could not see or hear me. I used my whistle and shouted at the top of my lungs. That was especially hard while treading water and getting hit in face with waves.
I didn’t have the inflatable orange noodles to signal. So I waved my spear gun and kept whistling and yelling. After about 10 minutes they luckily spotted me and came and picked me up. But for a few minutes there I was absolutely convinced I was going to die and there’s nothing I can do.
Jesus Christ that sounds horrible, glad your still among us
@Ur Mom shut
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@@Tank175
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@@doppio8602 what
It'd be really cool if he did a video on Bob Wright and Ken Moore. Two American medics who, on D-Day, set up an aide station in a church and cared for wounded German and American soldiers even when in unimaginable amounts of danger
Yarnhub on youtube is a great WW2 stories channel that did a feature on these 2 heros. highly recommend
@@elevated_0574 I saw that one and I really enjoyed it
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Watch a channel called YarnHub they have that video keep looking to
Yeah but that's a good story with good people. I need terrifying endings where everyone dies.
As a Queenslander I sadly remember this story too well.
It shows you what happens when corners are cut and safety is compromised.
The suggestion that they deliberately caused the operator to abandon them and to not even notice their mistake for days is insane.
That would require complicity on both sides which is a dumb af theory.
All this series has taught me is to avoid water by any means necessary.
more specifically, diving of any kind
I never drink it.
Yeah especially saturation diving
I get, "You're a pussy with no sense of adventure."
Yep. Yes I am. You can keep the whole damn ocean.
It's an entirely different biome, the closest you'd get to an alien world while on earth.
While I think it should be studied, I'm definitely of the belief I, personally, have no business down there :p
The scary part about it , is the fact they dehydrate then die a water logged death, water is so essential to life, yet the ocean can be your grave.
God's a prick innit
That’s irony for you
And knowing how badly I get dehydrated just after a 2 hour leisurely snorkel. This has gotta be terrifying. I did a tour out to Agincourt Reef in 2015, and it's FAR from shore. *shudders*
Water, water everywhere...nary a drop to drink
A shower brings relief, a deluge brings death!
I think the worst part about this is that you’re not the only one going through this- you have to watch your loved one go through the same struggles. You either die first and leave them alone knowing they will have the same fate or hopelessly watch them die before you knowing you’ll be soon to follow.
While this is true, I personally would find solace in spending my last moments with someone I love, and know that I won't be going alone. The part I would be afraid of is separation, that one of us dies, and the other lives. The pain of losing a loved one, the survivors guilt that it should have been them, the trauma of the experience would in my eyes be worse than death.
I'm getting quite annoyed that youtube keeps forgetting to recommend these videos to me. Great video as always.
I assume this is what the movie "Open Water" was based upon.
(It's literally this exact scenario if anyone wants a watch. It is not sensationalized at all, just slow, cold, and brutal.)
I was trying to remember the name of that film as soon as I realised what this video was about. But yeah, almost certain this is what it's based on.
yes the movie is based off this story. i was born in Baton Rouge and have heard of the story many times. i believe the family was upset about the movie
Read the description
Open Water 2 was better.
I saw the title and thought, "Oh no. He's covering the story that Open Water is based on."
That movie is honestly one of the scariest psychological horror movies I've seen.
As a kid I nearly died at sea when I was caught in a rip current. I've never really ventured far from the beach since.
My takeaway from this series:
The scariest thing of all is negligent mouth breathers in positions of responsibility.
edit: For some reason people feel the need to comment on how mouth breathing doesn't really mean anything in regards to mental capabilities. Of course this is true?? It's a figure of speech. Stop getting offended at everything.
Unqualified community care workers in a sea of corruption. As little as 2 days training, with Google as weapon for knowledge in health care. Lots of people have drowned by there neglect
I’m a frequent mouth breather because I have serious allergies and nasal septal surgery issues. The stupid phrase makes no sense as an insult about IQ, so maybe you’re the low IQ person here.
@@sliglusamelius8578 Maybe you need to work on you self confidence if you think "negligent mouth breathers" was meant to insult people with medical conditions affecting their airways.
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Or maybe you need to find a new insult that makes sense. Since liberals won’t let us use standard pejorative terms like !diot (it would hurt feelings because it’s mean), we have to make up really insulting nonsense like “mouth breathers”. No thanks. I prefer terms like
!diot, Mor^n, Ree tard. (I can’t type them or deletion will happen).
@@sliglusamelius8578 You're correct, and of course I avoid the obvious ban words when I can, but I don't subscribe to the ideology that I need to self-censor on the internet.
I just can't be arsed and someone will be put me to my place if I act out too much. Cheers.
What the hell are these “Australian Dollars”, down here we call em Dollarydoos
Kangaroo-koins
Doalas
@@yamabushi170 nice
"Down there" you can call 'em whatever you wish, but to the world at large they are strange foreign objects of little or no concern.
I thought this was going to be a tale from the bottle, then 2 minutes in I saw last moments in the title and said "Oh shit."
I was almost the same, but when he didn't open with a joke I knew something was off. Then I looked and saw last moments.
The movie "Open Water" which was based on these events was so chilling... Probably because they went down the worst case scenario road of their death.. Amazingly sad movie. I cried even more only after realizing it was based on this true story.
Why something like that? Waste of time and heart.
I was on a dive boat that sank off Key West on Feb. 21, 1990. We treaded water all night and were picked up by CG 12.5 hours later. We didn't have shark problems but the Portuguese Man O War jellies caused great pain and put one guy in anaphylactic shock. There were sharks around, they would just bump us and not bite because of the cold water. It was February,and sharks don't like to open their mouths in colder water than they are used to. Lucky us. It happens...
The absolute mind fk. "It will be ok honey, i am sure they will come back soon" I hope you 2 went peacefully, perhaps passed out from exhaustion and was spared an ending of panic.
Somehow, of all your Last Moments series, this is the most chilling yet. It's probably the least graphic of all but the circumstances are just so horrifying.
I blame this video for my fear of the ocean. Thanks, Qxir
I blame Jaws
I blame the fact you can't see anything, and that the ocean is a vastly unknown/unexplored universe by humans, and so at any moment something could come right up to you...
Whether it be some squid or jellyfish (big or small), on their way to either scare you, poison you, or stab you..
Or merely a school of 1000 salmon swimming right into you, so you're surrounded by a dark mass of wiggly slimy unpredictible aliens
I blame the ocean
@@familiarsting4108 I blame Cathulu
@@familiarsting4108 It was always the jaws
Tom and Aileen at this moment ...you mean everything
Diaries aren’t going to have normal thoughts lol they’re going to have those off the wall random thoughts that you wouldn’t share with other people whether those thoughts are going to be followed through or not
So you think he was lying to himself? "Hahaha I only wrote about killing myself ironically, I didn't actually think like this, but I wrote it on a diary anyway". It's the same way for many people who committed suicide, midway through falling from a building they regret it or when hanging themselves you see them flailing around and trying to grab the rope to survive. It's human instinct, of course he regretted it at the end.
This is why I have a fear of being in the ocean or sea
If the elements don’t get you the animals swimming below will
Yeah.
It’s big and you’re no longer top of the food chain in there.
@@ColonizerChan That was talked about in JAWS. You should watch it some time.
@@ColonizerChan My oh my, you really are full of yourself. I imagine you have NO idea what I meant when I brought up that movie. There is a very good scene where a character....oh, just realized that you aren't worth my time.
I don't fear the sea - i fear STUPID PEOPLE
Dude wrote a letter while floating in the ocean and it was legible. I can barely write anything readable even when sitting down at a desk. Amazing.
It probably looked like crap, what you saw on the screen probably wasn't the actual writing.
I don’t understand that part. He had a pen and paper on him whilst diving? Is this typical?
@@MattPuxty They had Dive Slates which is a sort of waterproof board that can be written on in order to communicate while under the water. They're standard in a lot of dives.
@@brighbytes Interesting… thanks!
Almost every safety procedure was built in response to the death of someone before you. Kind of creepy when you really think about it.
They say ocean survival is largely a mental battle and I think this story is a really good example of that. You've got to hang in there until the last possible second because that might be the second when a passing boat spots you.
Yeah problem is dehydration usually leads to delirium and coma at a late stage. Your brain stops working properly and you do counterintuitive things like take your gear or clothes off. Its a question of lasting long enough before delirium sets in (which w severe dehydration in hot weather can be very fast ~24hrs, in cold weather it might be closer to ~2-3 days) or finding a fresh water source.
I'm a mariner who was just in Port Alma, QLD and passed through the Great Barrier Reef. Though I've never heard this tale before, I've often pondered the horror of falling overside, maybe leaning on a handrail that's a bit too rusty and gives way. There's only 16 people on my ship, and no one would notice me missing for many hours while the ship keeps sailing along. These two went through what my mind struggles to fathom - to be left treading water until exhaustion or dehydration takes you under for the last time
This is kind of one of my phobias. And I don't even scuba, but I have been out on snorkel boats of of f California, Hawaii, and in the Caribbean. To make sure this doesn't happen to me, I always chat with the boat pilot and/or crew on the way out to the dive site, tell them my name, ask where they're from and how they like working on the boat, etc. Most importantly, I give them half of their tip on the way out, and tell them there's more where that came from when we get back. That pretty much guarantees they're looking for my face on the way back to the harbor. If you'd tip a waiter or a taxi driver, then why the hell wouldn't you tip someone into whose hands you're putting your life?
This is almost the opposite of Nutty Putty Cave yet it's almost identical. Rather than being tightly confined, you're in the vast openness, yet equally powerless.
I got a scuba ad under this video. RUclips ad algorithms have a weird sense of humor.
"This guy wants to die and I'm afraid of getting caught up in that...I'm gonna take him to international waters"
That's why it couldn't be taken as evidence of suicide. Full context is needed since it gives a full picture of what they really thought.
Even if it was suicide (though I don't believe that) it doesn't erase the fact the company just left them behind!
@@maxthecharacter1296 2 things/events can be true at the same time. He was a thrill seeker, she worried that his thrill seeking ways would get him and herself killed one day, and then at some point, it just comes true. There are stupid people in place of power that shouldn't be there, just look at Joe Biden.
@@IntrovertedOreo I get it. And while it holds some truth (especially the part about Joe Biden), we don't know the full context.
After this could be the context.
"I hate cats so much. Just the other day I was scratched by one of them. They should all just die."
And here is the rest.
"But the other day my sister showed me a good cat that was nice. Huh, I guess they aren't so bad after all."
See how context is important?
found the redpilled child lol
I was caught in a similar situation when diving in Jamaica when I was 14. It was my first ocean dive. Only 3 of us were in the water: dive master, my dad, and me. One guy on the boat. Plan was for him(skipper) to meet us on the other side of the reef about 3/4 mile away. We surfaced and he was nowhere to be found. We were only about 2-3 miles off the shore, but the currents wouldn’t let us swim inland. We just puffed up our BCD’s and bobbed in the water for an hour. Eventually, a fishing boat came by and sent word out to the dive shack. They came with another boat to get us. Kinda funny looking back
Idk if I'd call it funny. That skipper almost got you killed because of his incompetence.
The soundtrack together with your as always chilling telling of the events transformed this episode into a Universal Nightmare almost like it was me who was abandoned on another world, in another galaxy, devoid of life and dying of thirst while surrounded by undrinkable water as far as the eye could see. That was awesome!
So glad I found your channel, my favorite videos to pass the time with
If you get lost at sea and can't see land but you know roughly where you are, wait until the sun starts to set to indicate which direction is West and from there you can figure out what your heading roughly needs to be. Also don't abandon your gear it helps you stay buoyant and the flippers will aid in swimming.
But if they were so far that they couldn't see land in a distance it would be impossible for them to swim such a distance after being dehydratated and exhausted
@@jirkavebr-czmapper8059 yeah but its better than doing nothing
@@emosewasikcin Not really, it has always be said to stay where you are its the best chance of being found, the guides know where you were last, and they are the only ones that know where you were.
@Thunderjunk Mcbuttram But does it apply to open sea tho? In land, sure. But in water even if they know the general area where they last saw you, the currents may take you away... And I suppose that search ans rescue teams knows how to calculate the distance you could swim, to establish the search zone. Plus, the closer to land the better.
@@moteroargentino7944 yeah there is that, one would assume they would know the currents and so know where you would be, i think i would just lay on my back and hope to found soon.
This is probably one of the most terrifying things to happen to someone. the diaries are very odd as well
Meh... a diary is supposed to be a collection of your innermost thoughts that only you (supposedly) will ever see. I myself have kept journals since high school and I've written some pretty fucked up shit in them that could easily be taken out of context.
I was trying to think of a context where the diary entries aren't damning, and I came up with the interpretation that Tom wasn't so much depressed as he was just driven to do dangerous adrenaline junky type things and that he felt he'd accomplished enough that if he died doing something wild he would have no regrets. Like the mindset a lot of Everest climbers have I suppose. As for Eileen, she knew Tom felt this sort of reckless abandon and also knew that she would inevitably be there with him on what ever expedition that killed him, taking a risk herself.
We'll never really know of course, but if the family and police are to be believed about the full context, this was an example that came to mind that convinced me that the entries weren't damning enough to assume anything other than them being left behind to drown by accident.
@@-HumanOnEarth- Considering that Tom was the one whom wrote on the slate asking for help and saying that they were abandoned makes it pretty clear it wasn't some kind of suicide.
@@archygrey9093 Yes that's the most damning piece of evidence as to why the official story of them getting left behind is indeed what occurred. I believe Tom was an adrenaline junky at peace with the idea that he could die anytime, but I don't think he was specifically looking to die intentionally.
@@-HumanOnEarth- yeah, being “ready to die” is not the same thing as wanting to die.
That had to be one of the most terrifying feelings ever. Dozens of miles off shore with no hope of rescue.
This channel literally gives me reason why i should not even dream trying scuba diving or caving or any other extreme stuff. Just stay on the ground, no going up or down the surface
I swear qxir's hair is different every video
That's what he does with all the millions he gets from RUclips, hairdo's and wigs.
That left eye never changes though
But those Ears!! That'll never change...😉
@@hotsoss1095it fr NEVER does, does it?
Wtf this is my phone background lol, so I was confused for a sec
Wow, I don't think I've ever been this early before. Can't wait to see 10 others post the same!
Same, I took a moment to think of a good comment to make that could get me likes lmao.
This happened to me on a dive tour in Hawaii. Except that a search party was sent out for me. Being "found" in the sea once you are lost is almost impossible. The only reason I was found is that a "voice" told me to wet my scuba mask and use it as a reflector to "flash" in the sun. That is how I was found. It was my first dive. Unless the "voice" told me to do that, I would not be writing this.
I should have been terrified, but I was not. The reason I was not terrified is that I was already dead once during an OBE as a 6 year old during a tonsillectomy. I have already been dead.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Finally a new episode. Thank you 😊
I've been stranded at sea on Queenslands reefs, admittedly this is exactly why I carry emergency locator beacons, they can be stored safely in a watertight container among my person and prevented me and likely many others in the past from suffering the same fate, though I wasn't lost due to negligence, just an unpredictable fast moving current I could not escape in time.
I remember watching 999 rescue on a Friday night as a child. Brought back that same feeling of abject terror I used to have... I god damn love this channel
"They sounded a whistle" - for scuba divers.. sure.. seems legit 😂
Sound is louder and faster in water. You can hear a helicopter overhead while in a submarine under the waves.
@@malnutritionboy The transition between media greatly reduces the signal strength, as much of it is reflected. Also, the human ear's effectiveness is very much reduced while submerged, due to the same reason, as well as a dampening effect on the eardrum. This is why sensory deprivation chambers submerge the ears.
😂👍🏻
By whistle they mean more like a train or truck whistle - a deep, long, loud honk, not a sports whistle. Some companies also bang on the side of the boat three times, which creates a loud sound that travels well through water.
Please make more of these, so chilling and incredibly interesting. Great work so far!
Just remember this simple acronym for things to remember before heading back to shore on a boat: EGGS
E - phonE
G - dive Gear
G -
S - all of the paSsengers
Easy and straiGht forward. Thanks man!
Why did that make me laugh?
@@Archonch no yoke
😅
It's so weird that it might work but it won't
Still a hugely underrated channel
This is why you “make friends” with fellow tour members. So hopefully someone realizes you’re missing from the boat or bus or train etc
The thought of this is the closest I've ever come to having a panic attack. Now it is set in stone, I am not going near the water, no matter what. Thanks for helping me really make this decision.
Got left behind on a Bahama booze cruise uninhabited island waypoint,luckily it came back the next day..so much for the buddy system, thanks Karen.
Me upon seeing Qxir uploaded: “Alright Nico, you’ve been blessed today. Now promise yourself to do all your work after.”
After: “mAyBe I sHoUlD rEwAtCh A oLdEr VidEo”
I really enjoy all the content you provide and the manner in which you arrange and display it! Top notch, informative and to the point. Keep up the awesome work Qxir, I plan to continue watching every single one of the videos you post. Always interesting and eye opening material 👍🏻
Their final slate writing is terrifying. I can't imagine the fear they must have felt...being on the open sea is already pretty scary, but being stranded there with no possible escape? Totally chills my spine man.
On an unrelated note, January 26th is my birthday, and I've noticed in a lot of true crime, horror, etc. for some reason bad things happen on or around the 26th, so I started taking notes. I guess this is another horrific event to add to the list.
Thank god, I was going through withdrawals on my "dread-rearing tales" addiction
Always glad to see your uploads, mate!
It’s a mighty fine day when this man uploads
The utter incompetence of the dive boat crew in this case is incredible, topped only by the fact that in the end no one was held accountable for leaving this couple to suffer a horrible death. I hope the crew that was on that boat that day are having trouble living with it, they should be. A terrible way to die. And one of the tragic things about it is that I've read there was a dive platform within swimming distance of where they probably surfaced but because they were level with the water they couldn't see it.
Absolutely the video I needed today to raise my mood, praise!
Qxir you magnificent Irish bastard, 4.4k hits in 18 mins, says a lot, I still maintain the notion this has become the channel on YT, good shit dude, keep it up
As a boat captain who leads swim trips, this is my worst nightmare. Its hard to get a good headcount but its important
This really is the greatest channel there is on youtube
This might be the most captivating series on the entire platform. Incredible.
I’ve come back in time to say this video is amazing
Ah yes, the inspiration behind the horror/thriller film 'Open Water'. I highly suggest giving it a watch if you haven't seen it. It's obviously just a "this might have been how it went down" story but still good none the less.
I just dont understand how Qxir hasnt blown up more than he already has. All of these videos are super entertaining, accurate and well put together. Deserving of a million subs, just my opinion.
Love this channel
Love your content Qxir! Hoping you’re doing well man.
I spent only a few minutes at sea after the boat I was on nearly capsized recently, and that was terrifying enough, watching the boat travelling off in the rolling sea. Deep water has always been a fear for me.
Loving the videos! It’s the way you tell them! CHILLING! Brilliant!
Wow. This is the thing of terrible nightmares. In the early 1980s, my family went to Bonaire and we took the "hotel course" to get out scuba diving by the third day from the dive boat. I clearly remember the emphasis put on diving with a partner and there was also an employed guide who went around and constantly monitored all of us. Before we left the boat to dive, they had a peg-board with numbers and you had to place your tag on a board to signify you were diving. When you returned, you had to put the tag back on the board to show you returned. There was a great deal of redundancy. The dive outfit in this case must have been very shoddy for this to happen. I'm amazed that they all escaped charges.
The sad part is that their remains were probably ate by some fish. Or sank to the bottom of the abyss I’m not sure which is worse tho
When u die while in your casket you will be ate by worms. We are gonna decompose one way or the other
Kinda doesn’t matter at that point.
@@dcagepcutta6488 at the bottom of a hole in the ground or at the bottom of the sea yeah it kinda doesn't matter at that point
It would be eaten by sea life anyway. Once they’re dead, it little matters to them what became of their bodies, though
This happened to my parents in Hawaii! Luckily the boat hadn't gotten very far, and one of the other couples on the boat spotted my parents in the water shouting and signaling for help.
man!! I can't even wrap my head around this.
Great video!
The mere fact this even happen is insane you would think the other divers would have noticed unbelievable
"What's the headcount, mate?"
"Not totally sure, mate. I can only count to three."
"Were there more than you can count, mate?"
"Aye, captain mate."
"Close enough. We outta' here!"
Awesome vid!