How do comments like these make any sense? I mean come on! Why not just enjoy the sights and sounds of these locomotives hard at work? Also, there are no Victorian cities in China. Who cares!
2:41 Never thought of turning on the windshield wipers? Or saving wear? Nice seeing these locomotives in real use. Thank you. Unfortunately they have the English pip-squeak whistles. Great video from inside the locomotive! Hope you also got to fire the locomotive.
Chris Newman, extraordinario video, me traes recuerdo de mi padre que fue ferroviario y su padre (mi abuelo) tambien lo fue en la línea San Martín. Estas máquinas eran muy buenas, saludos de Argentina. Roberto-Córdoba Argentina
I have noticed in many vids about this pass and about Sandaoling that when there is a double header (like here), they use their whistles . One blows his whistle a the other answers. I thought at first they communicated by some code but there is always a What is the use? I know there must be a reason but which? I also notice that, at many places in the vid, the people aboard the locomotive protect their face (see 15:43). Against what? Soot or dust from the chimney or from the fireplace?
My English is not good, please forgive me The reason why the train whistles on the bridge is that most of the railway bridges are at the traffic interchanges, and there are roads or water transport channels below. The train whistles in advance, mainly to remind all personnel to leave near the bridge as soon as possible, so as to ensure the normal operation of the train and the safety of life and property of personnel near the bridge. And to pay the highest tribute to the people who have paid their blood, sweat and lives for the construction of the railway bridge.
@Dr Moriarty Indeed, and perspective is important, I remember reading that all of the preserved steam locomotives (in Britain at least) combined, burned less coal in a year nationwide than a single coal fired powerplant burns in a day.
@Dr Moriarty Even so, that likely would have resulted in a minimal overall effect as the sheer amount of energy consumed for electricity can be generated in much better ways today.
@Dr Moriarty As for electricity usage, I know here in Canada where I live, nationally fossil fuels currently sit between 15-20% of our national grid as of today. So it certainly is possible, the old coal fired plant near me is currently being turned into a convention center of all things!
I don’t know why they use the air horns more often than the steam whistles. I would stick with the whistles on these particular engines compared to the awful-sounding air horns.
who cares that they're obsolete? 这都是15年前的视频了，当让是比较老的火车头，中国最年轻的蒸汽火车头是’99 年造的。在西方，70之后基本上全都停用了。That's why we're willing to travel across the globe to see these machinese working in their true inviroment. They're inefficient, but glorious and romantic. The whole point of this video is to share how they were (until damn recently in SanDaoLing) used in the wild, and not tucked away in a museum, spotless and perfect, but cold and dark.
You tell me they fire a ten and a eight wheeler bye hand? guess they don't care much about the life of a fireman, if they had an auger feed, the driver would probably half to do it.
Besides not being able to count, not everywhere in the World is effeicency up to Your Standards! We just happen to be very lucky to be born here and should be grateful as all get out! But some folks just love to critize everything! A Great Job Done On The Video and keep up the Good Job! Dan Wright in U. S. of A. Feburary 22nd, 2019
don pollard, dan wright, come on gentlemen, willibilli c probably should have just used the term drivers instead of wheelers. his sympathies are right. my father fired on australian 6 drivers with 3 cylinders and said it was bloody hard work. he also fired on an 8 driver with 3 cylinders and there were times when the auger drive(mechanical stoker) had broken down. he said these were the hardest days of work he ever did. while on this subject i raise the issue of a renowned british engine designer gresley who saw fit to put a corridor in the tender to exchange firemen on the move instead of importing those new fangled mechanical stokers from usa for his top line 6 driver express locos. there might have been a class thing going on here.
@@vsvnrg3263 actually the corridor tender was introduced because over here in England drivers can only work on track they are trained on, so English crews back then weren't experienced in Scotland and vice versa, thus driving a service from London to Edinburgh proved difficult. Thus, to make the service faster and to remove a crew change stop at York, the corridor tender was introduced so both driver and fireman could change on the move
@@vsvnrg3263 on top of that, our loading guage is smaller than yours, a mechanical stoker would use all coal in an hour. The closest we had were coal pushers to help the fireman by pushing the coal to the front of the tender. The only time mechanical stokers were used was on the LMS Garratts, but it was removed as it was too expensive to maintain and was too big for most of the network
Magnificent engines. landscape and atmosphere! :-)
Marvellous and magical. The cab ride over the pass is one of the best I've seen!
The most "environmentally friendly" and "Green" locomotives were stream. Water vapor and coal ash. All natural.
So victorian cities were black by accident then? Did you think before you wrote that?
How do comments like these make any sense? I mean come on! Why not just enjoy the sights and sounds of these locomotives hard at work? Also, there are no Victorian cities in China. Who cares!
Excellent video. Very enjoyable to watch
2:41 Never thought of turning on the windshield wipers? Or saving wear?
Nice seeing these locomotives in real use. Thank you. Unfortunately they have the English pip-squeak whistles. Great video from inside the locomotive! Hope you also got to fire the locomotive.
Chris Newman, extraordinario video, me traes recuerdo de mi padre que fue ferroviario y su padre (mi abuelo) tambien lo fue en la línea San Martín. Estas máquinas eran muy buenas, saludos de Argentina.
Roberto-Córdoba Argentina
Really good video! Well done!
great video very interesting
Those steam crews should be given respirators going through the tunnels. Bad enough in the lead loco, imagine what it's like in the second.
Interesting video. Is there a banking engine at the back of the train?
What height is the pass?
48:08 Should have shown the semaphore change aspect when the train passed it.
23:04 That locomotive is now RJ Corman No. 2008.
Very enjoyable
Thank You sir!
I have noticed in many vids about this pass and about Sandaoling that when there is a double header (like here), they use their whistles . One blows his whistle a the other answers. I thought at first they communicated by some code but there is always a What is the use? I know there must be a reason but which?
I also notice that, at many places in the vid, the people aboard the locomotive protect their face (see 15:43). Against what? Soot or dust from the chimney or from the fireplace?
My English is not good, please forgive me
The reason why the train whistles on the bridge is that most of the railway bridges are at the traffic interchanges, and there are roads or water transport channels below. The train whistles in advance, mainly to remind all personnel to leave near the bridge as soon as possible, so as to ensure the normal operation of the train and the safety of life and property of personnel near the bridge.
And to pay the highest tribute to the people who have paid their blood, sweat and lives for the construction of the railway bridge.
I love that sharp crisp bark of those engines, inefficient and expensive to run, sure. But cool as anything :D
@Dr Moriarty Oh for sure :) But they are crazy amounts of fun if it is a weekend passtime and not a 9-5 job where money is the end goal.
@Dr Moriarty Indeed, and perspective is important, I remember reading that all of the preserved steam locomotives (in Britain at least) combined, burned less coal in a year nationwide than a single coal fired powerplant burns in a day.
@Dr Moriarty Even so, that likely would have resulted in a minimal overall effect as the sheer amount of energy consumed for electricity can be generated in much better ways today.
@Dr Moriarty I was simply making a point about the scales of coal use. Sorry if I confused you
@Dr Moriarty As for electricity usage, I know here in Canada where I live, nationally fossil fuels currently sit between 15-20% of our national grid as of today. So it certainly is possible, the old coal fired plant near me is currently being turned into a convention center of all things!
Nice!!
The steam whistle on those QJ's sounds really sweet. What's with those ghastly air horns?
steam locomotives revenge on the diesel. steam says I can not only toot my horn but also that of a stinking diesel. Steam rules!!!!
I don’t know why they use the air horns more often than the steam whistles. I would stick with the whistles on these particular engines compared to the awful-sounding air horns.
蒸汽機確實太落後了。少數煤礦企業使用成本還行。
這些車都是老車了，早就停產了。
who cares that they're obsolete? 这都是15年前的视频了，当让是比较老的火车头，中国最年轻的蒸汽火车头是’99 年造的。在西方，70之后基本上全都停用了。That's why we're willing to travel across the globe to see these machinese working in their true inviroment. They're inefficient, but glorious and romantic. The whole point of this video is to share how they were (until damn recently in SanDaoLing) used in the wild, and not tucked away in a museum, spotless and perfect, but cold and dark.
The train is good
You tell me they fire a ten and a eight wheeler bye hand? guess they don't care much about the life of a fireman, if they had an auger feed, the driver would probably half to do it.
You can't count!
Besides not being able to count, not everywhere in the World is effeicency up to Your Standards! We just happen to be very lucky to be born here and should be grateful as all get out! But some folks just love to critize everything! A Great Job Done On The Video and keep up the Good Job! Dan Wright in U. S. of A. Feburary 22nd, 2019
don pollard, dan wright, come on gentlemen, willibilli c probably should have just used the term drivers instead of wheelers. his sympathies are right. my father fired on australian 6 drivers with 3 cylinders and said it was bloody hard work. he also fired on an 8 driver with 3 cylinders and there were times when the auger drive(mechanical stoker) had broken down. he said these were the hardest days of work he ever did. while on this subject i raise the issue of a renowned british engine designer gresley who saw fit to put a corridor in the tender to exchange firemen on the move instead of importing those new fangled mechanical stokers from usa for his top line 6 driver express locos. there might have been a class thing going on here.
@@vsvnrg3263 actually the corridor tender was introduced because over here in England drivers can only work on track they are trained on, so English crews back then weren't experienced in Scotland and vice versa, thus driving a service from London to Edinburgh proved difficult. Thus, to make the service faster and to remove a crew change stop at York, the corridor tender was introduced so both driver and fireman could change on the move
@@vsvnrg3263 on top of that, our loading guage is smaller than yours, a mechanical stoker would use all coal in an hour. The closest we had were coal pushers to help the fireman by pushing the coal to the front of the tender. The only time mechanical stokers were used was on the LMS Garratts, but it was removed as it was too expensive to maintain and was too big for most of the network