Chinese Steam 2011 - Beitai Steelworks 3
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2012
- A worker undertakes the dusty job of removing the accumulated ash from the track at the loco fire cleaning area. A SY pushes vats of molten slag past past the 'dry pit' to the 'pond' tipping area. Before tipping can take place the crust that has formed on top of the slag must be broken with a large iron ball. As the molten slag is tipped into the water a vast quantity of steam is produced.
The partially emptied cauldrons are then moved forward for the remainder of the molten slag and the hard crust to be tipped out. Sometimes a few knocks by the iron ball is required to help the process along. After having release agent sprayed into the vats they are returned to the furnaces for another load. Meanwhile the slag is quenched with water and then pushed by bulldozer onto a conveyor. In the conveyor shed a worker sits beside the belt apparently pushing random lumps off the belt. The crushed slag is used in the production of cement.
Filmed December 2011
Thank you for filming and posting. Soon no one will be using steam engines anywhere and videos like this will be the last ones shot in high resolution color. People may not appreciate that now but in a hundred years they will.
Absolutely amazing thank you for sharing !
Incredible. Great work!!!
I’d love to see the engines preserved. These workhorses have been through a lot. They belong in a museum!
They use these every day. Steam engines are still made in china.
@@farmcentralohio Sorry, not true. Only Sandaoling in Western China still uses a few JS class until late next year. The last steam locomotive was built in China in 1999.
@@blackthorne57 Oh good for you, you figured out how to google something. Congrats.
farm.central. ohio C’mon man that’s a bit rude. You got something wrong and he corrected you for it. No need to fight
@@farmcentralohio I am writing from first hand experience. I have visited China seven times to film and photograph the steam locomotives at work. I am also in contact with recent visitors. Please be polite it will do you no harm
Superb video. I hope more rail fans explore your videos. Steam hard at work, dirt and grime at its best. Your video captures the real nature of steam.
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+Bob Johnson Thank you
+blackthorne57
Wen Chu Never. It’s rare to see really any kind of steam in the US, let alone it hard at work and earning money for a railroad.
Beautiful camera work and sound, and very interesting subject.
Great camera work to show steam locomotives still at work in high resolution. It won't be the same once the diesels take over. So this is recorded for posterity. Well done!
Ah, so this is where the raw materials for my eco e-scooter, LED bulbs and electric car are made!
No.
@@mememachine5244 yes
No, this is what they coat children's toys with...
@@ffjsb What do you mean? This is a steelworks. Please don't post daft comments.
@@blackthorne57 You're an idiot if you don't know that a LOT of hazardous materials show up in Chinese made goods. That's just a fact, even though the comment I made THREE YEARS AGO was sarcasm....
Fascinating viewing, as always.
You have not disappointed. Excellent video !
fantastic footage. thank you
What Pennsylvania used to look like.
you can still see the leftover in Altoona or Pitts right?
O o f
As a resident of PA, I'm glad it doesn't anymore.
Thatguyontheinternet the things you see in the video no longer exist in China as well
@@naggersgonnanag Uh, the pollution still does....
There's nothing "counterfeit" about the hard work these Chinese people perform.
Camera work is beautiful.
Excellent video!
5*
The slag tapped from the bottom of the Beitai blast furnaces is not basic slag. Basic slag used a fertiliser is a by-product of steel making by the basic version of the Bessemer process.
Very Nice Vedeo !
Pittsburgh has definitely come a long way since the early 1900s. You can still see the scars left from slag dumps and steel mills decades after they've been torn down.
Is there any sites that show pics of that?
Excelente vídeo
Very interesting! I enjoyed the video very much. Thanks
Thank you
От такой работы лёгкие свои выплюнешь
Superb video.
Well done. Salut from Poland.
00:55 This is Hell. Amazing. Nice video, thank you.
0:55
They all have steam horns - that's clever, they need to be heard in such a noisy place.
"steam horns"
@@AaronR264 Yes, they're horns not whistles, as you would normally find on a steam locomotive. I think the Southern Pacific used horns instead of whistles in the US in the later years of steam.
Absolutely amazing! The Chinese are such hard working and industrious people exhibiting such fine examples of human ingenuity. I admire them for retaining steam motive power well into the 21st century. Despite the advantages of diesels, use of steam hasn't seemed to adversely effect China's competitive edge.
Sorry to say but non of the technology involved is originated or invented in China. But Chinese are very hard working people not sure why use steam is really polluting burning coal
Robert Haxor It's my understanding they don't, or didn't, have the technology to build diesel-electric locomotives. They know how to build steamers so they simply kept using them. They also wanted to reduce dependency on foreign oil. They have plenty of coal and are using it.
Those locos look like the German ones captured during the War by the Russians and then sold to China.
Abraham Codpiece Some of China's steam locomotives have an American look to them. I've been told some were built off American blue prints? I don't know if that's true or not but any steam is good steam.
g bridgman the WESTERN CIVILISATION were like that 2 or 300 years ago. HOW ELSE DID WE DEVELOP THE MODERN WORLD now we have given all that away.
And yeah, fantastic video.
Very nice.
Those trains are awesome, It has to be said.:-)
Realy old train :O director of this fabric is a vintage lover :P
What are the slagcars made out of? Or lined with? Asbestos?
The slagcars are made of heavy gauge steel. There is no asbestos used in their construction.
設備は近代化されながらも
今でも現役バリバリなのがうれしいなあ
8:50 so cool!
8.50 - level 80 automated technology
8:50
Those horns are exactly the sound of the start of a game in ROLLERBALL!
You get to work outside in the fresh air.
Thank you for sharing thiese videos. I still don't want to work there!
Steam everywhere, fascinating!!!!
A lot of that is toxic gasses like sulfur dioxide off the slag. Real shithole place to work.
@@TheNemosdaddy The air temperature was very cold, hence the steam from the water that is sprayed on the slag to cool it down. As for sulphur dioxide, it has a very distinctive smell that I know very well from my years working in a laboratory, I did not smell any SO2 coming from the slag.
SO2 comes from the coal, not the slag.
Rip the respiritory systems of all of those workers...
Yup. And now RIP the respiratory system of those with COVID.
So do they send Bulldozers or something to pick it up once it cools down ?
Yes. The cooled slag is pushed to a conveyor then crushed to even size lumps for use in road building. You can see this after about 8 mins on this video.
The guy in blue at 10:11 is also seen in the recent report from BBC that showed the modern inner workings of the steelworks in 2019... thats crazy
What a strange comment! Many Chinese workers wear blue overalls. You have absolutely no evidence this person appeared in a recent BBC documentary. Your comments are welcome but not childish ones.
Very nice and very interesting. I like steam engines very much but I dont understand Why? Why are they useing steam engines today? The diesels are more efficient. I think they could have a hudge reserve of coal. Free coal. Probably
There is now only one place in China (and the rest of the world) that steam locos are in regular daily use, that is the open-cast coal mine at Sandaoling in the west of China. You are correct, the coal was 'free'. Diesels are more efficient but more difficult to maintain. Another reason for withdrawing steam was said to be pollution but diesels are certainly not pollution free.
blackthorne57 Do any of the steam locos in the video still exist?
@@dergenmusic2081 Parallel Music There is a large railway museum in Beijing with static exhibits of many loco types used on China's railways. A few QJ class are/were stored at Daban on the Ji Tong line in Inner Mongolia for use on tourist trains over the JingPeng Pass (I do not know if they still operate). There are also a few preserved lines that use C2 class 0-8-0 narrow gauge locos. There is probably more, China is a big country.
There is still one place to see the very last real working steam in the world at Sandoaling open cast coal mine in western China, it will finish late next year.
blackthorne57 Cool thx so much.
the last steam loco engine of this video stop work in march 20223, now no more steam engines in wor
Man, no wonder the Chinese have to chew they're air.
Belgie places what looks nowadays the same.
I wonder what that huge brown pipeline was used for.
An interesting question. I do not know the answer but it may be for fuel for the blast furnaces, oil or natural gas. A lot of compressed air is also used but I think this was produced next to the furnaces. It anybody knows the answer please post here.
How were they rocking the cauldrons?
The couldron is tipped by a cog wheel driven by an eectric motor. The rocking is caused by the motor being rapidly switched from forward to reverse.
You have really caught all the action, George! Is this slag same as the "Basic Slag" that farmers used to spread on fields? Provided Phosphorus, I think.
Found it interesting that they are using steam engines! Amazing
Sadly the old blast furnaces and the steam engines finished shortly after my visit.
How is tipping achieved?
An electric motor attached to a cog wheel rotates the cauldron.
I think this would be my dream job.
Dante's inferno.
greta thumberg APPROVED!
Ahhh... so THIS is where Chitanium was made. I always wondered.
I think this is chinesium ore.
Yes it is. EVERYTHING is made in China. So is Chitanium,
🤣🤣🤣🤣
What is the material of the slag cauldrons?
Heavy duty steel. A release agent is sprayed into the cauldron to help the release of the slag.
How does the technique assure that when the slag is tapped or poured from the furnace, it is not hot enough to melt the cauldron?
@@b43xoit Although still very hot after leaving the furnace, it starts to cool rapidly and is not hot enough to melt the thick steel of the cauldron.
Isn't slag basically just lava ?
Lava is molten rock, slag is iron ore after the iron has been removed leaving the molten waste (rock) so I suppose they are more or less the same. A geologist may wish to correct me if I am wrong.
Welcome to HELL!
I know this is really hazardous for the enviroment, but man this looks cool af, steam punk vibes
Less of an envioremental problem now. These old blast furnaces and the steam locomotives have be replaced by much less polluting facilites.
@@blackthorne57 they upgraded everything at once? There must be some of these steam engines and old blast furnaces going now.
@@ratking948 Sorry, no steam locos working in China now. This is true worldwide, preserved/heritage railways yes but no everyday working steam.
@@blackthorne57 damn these videos are amazing! I had no idea these had been working up until recently.
내화재 제거 정말 효율적인듯..
기가 막히네 이래 쉽게 제거가 되.
Diesels? We no need no stinkin' diesel rocomotives!
I wonder why the Old Steam engines we used to use here in the U.S. were so loud and noisy, while the ones the Chinese use in this video are so quiet
+Starguard ! The engine is not working very hard.
+Varinki Oh. Thanks!
+Starguard ! Also, steam engines tend to get less noisy, when they start to get dirty. Once everything is covered with dust, grease, burnt oil, coal dust etc. a lot of the mechanical and steam induced noises are damped (and so is the efficiency). For a brand new steamer with everything in perfect condition, everything sounds a bit more sharp, edgy and therefore, louder. The effect is very small and you probably can´t hear the difference from a video though
Its quiet BECAUSE YOU HAVE your volume turned DOWN. Im deaf almost and i have to keep the volume down
6.08 THE CAULDRONS OF HELL.
We did this in Cleveland & Lorain Ohio just a few years ag
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Que manera de contaminar el suelo y el aire. Espero que el producto final, no sean "vainas de balas". º)
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Why the Chinese are using Steam Locomotives for Steel Mill Switching?
Why not? Coal was freely available for the steelworks, the locos were realiable and easy to maintain. The old blast furnaces closed soon after my visit and the steam locos were then scrapped.
@@blackthorne57 why were the steam locos scrapped? The new blast furnaces were that different?
@@ratking948 Progress!! They were replaced by diesel locos. There are no steam locos anywhere in the world still working on industrial railways.
Surprised they actually still use Steam Engines. Probably because they can't afford anything else in the rural areas.
no, because the operating cost of steam loco is significantly lower than the cost of diesel or electric loco not even taking into consideration the fact that they also dig the coal and water from the same ground where they operate and steam loco has low maintenance cost , no oil change, no engine rebuild nothing like that.
China has the fastest high speed trains in the world, many more than the US
It would be great in the winter.......what kind of metal/waste what ever it is???
It is called slag. It is what is left over when iron is extracted from iron ore in the blast furnace. The slag from Beitai was crushed and used in materials for road building.
@@blackthorne57 oh ok....thank you for the information.......that's what I find interesting...people.do stuff different all over.the world....I like to learn stuff like that....thank you for responding!!!
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Send Greta there to sort them out. She could lecture them on the error of their ways. I'm sure they would be only too please to follow her advice.
it is no wonder there is so much smog in china
and that's why china wants to Industry upgrade, energy upgrade.
we had it in Britan for a hundred years untill the rich people in the city of london started to die then laws came out to change things
Toyota Prius production plant?
The Toyota Prius is a Japanese car.
@@blackthorne57 Yes and Apple is an American company haha, doesn't say anything about production really
Its mordor
Coalbrookdaole, UK, or Rhur zone, 1856, colorized.
really????
2020. European Union is still fighting the global warming . LOL.
Это какой год?
+Georg Sanctus 2011
no Brasil é assim se roubar tem direitos atribuídos pela constituição
That sounds more like a horn than a whistle
You are correct, Chinese steam locos had air horns as well as steam whistles.
This children is where you go if you don't say your prayers each night.
This is where you go to have fun if you like these monster machines like the person taking the video. OR.
This is where you go to have a job and take care of family. Personally I'd pray to have a job that means my families would be taken care of. A little hard and dirty work is nothing to be scared of, I'd prefer that over a cushy office job any day.!!!
@@michaelf6232 Well said
hell on earth
este país é muito bom em extensão mas ordem o povo indiciplinado os políticos do maior ao menor só pensa em roubar
нормально, наверняка там на угле всё производство, не нужно думать о дизельном топливе, задачу свою выполняют
Почему они в 2011 ездят на паровозах? почему не купили новый современный локомотив?
Горы. На высоте тепловозы теряют мощность. Паровые машины нет. Электричество дорого тянуть. Все просто.
Они поди уголь из карьера таскают. Получается для паровоза топливо на халяву. Только воду подливай.
Потому что там нет "эффективных" менеджеров. Если так выгодно, значит все идут на хер. Мы так СССР сделали мировой державой, Китай так выдвигает себя. А с новым локомотивом придет куча проверяющих и охранителей прав человека, с которыми все производство и загнется. Как у нас
This is all about efficiency, they dig coal from the ground, get water from the ground and with the help of a low wage person power the transport sending product where it needs to go. From business stand of view no other way is cheaper than this not speaking of absolutely zero or close to it of cost of maintenance. Insurance? Forget it common thats only in the Bureaucratic States Of Corporate America
The US Economy will never withstand this onslaught.
That place looks like a model example of proper environmental techniques. Said no one ever. Rofl. It actually looks like a terribly bad place fully of dangerous working conditions and toxic air.
This shouldn't even be legal.
Watch the engineer chain smoking to clean the air he has to breathe
much like any other industrilsed country over the last 200 years
Not the beautiful modern and new china the chicoms want us to see. Industry on this scale though is impressive to see.
Shortly after my visit in 2011, the old blast furnaces at this steelworks were shut down and new, much less polluting furnaces put into use. Steam locos also finished at the same time. They were already using a completly enclosed coking furnace.
Steam locos with air horns. No No No!
I agree it takes a bit of getting used to! Except for one isolated location, there are now no working steam locos in China, not even a few with air-horns.
Human life seems to be so cheep in this place.
kenkenrd1 that’s your thought
Cheep like a bird.
@@RU-zm7wj yep
much like Britan during the indusrial revolution childern working in cotton mills to make some people very rich
watch this greta.
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Jetzt weiß ich endlich, warum ich meinen Diesel verschrotten soll.🤔
Da sieht man es mal wieder dass Deutschland, Österreich, Schweiz und andere Mitteleuropäische Länder nicht das Problem sind. Deutschland produziert nicht mal 0, 5% der Treibhausgase, sollte man mal bei den Asiaten Kontrollieren, und nicht uns unsere Dieselautos Wegnehmen damit wir und wieder neue(!) Autos kaufen können.
@@noobgamer-qb3gq Danke , dass ich nicht der einzige bin, der hier nur Dampflokokomotiven sieht.👍
noob gamer 1) hat Diesel nix mit Treibhaus zu tun. 2) pro Person produziert China weniger an Schadstoffen 3) die produzieren CO2 für dich mit. 4) dieses Abgas ist nicht im Wohngebiet. 5) dein Name ist Programm
@@David-cy5zu In China wird doch auf die Umwelt geschissen, so einen Blödsinn brauchst du mir nicht erzählen
Can someone please remind me again why we pay carbon tax?
No Idea! The old blast furnaces, coking plant and steam locomotives have all been replaced by modern more environmentally friendly alternatives. Without steel your life and everybody else's would be very different.
Because we don’t live in China
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é um país tem milhares de leis mas não são obedecidas é um país cujos seus administradores são corruptos
Você deve publicar em um fórum de assuntos atuais para seus discursos políticos. Meus vídeos não são declarações políticas, mas para todos desfrutarem.
You should post to a current affairs forum for your political rants. My videos are not political statements but for everybody to enjoy.
I do hope that geologists have come to this location to take rock samples of each of the rock layers to help interpret the fascinating geology of the area demonstrating sea level changes, massive tectonic shifts of this continent over millions of years as well as analysis of the coal showing its Carboniferous era. I hope that it is somewhere accessible on RUclips even though I have yet to find it.
I am confused by your comment, please explain the connection between a time-expired blast furnace and geology.
@@blackthorne57 sorry that you are confused about my comment. Of course I am absolutely enjoying your wonderful videos of steam trains. I have a strong additional interest in geology and I find it interesting to look at at the various strata layours of the open cut coal mine and to think about its geology as I watch your videos.
@@TrainLordJC Thank you for your kind comments. My confusion relates to the fact there does not appear to be any mines at Beitai (as far as I am aware). I think coal was mined nearby when the steelworks was established but I think the nearest mine is now about 50 km away. All geologists are likely to find in the vicinity of Beitai is a lot of contaminated soil. I would be happy to be corrected on this.
何捨ててるの？
高炉で鉄鉱石から鉄が抽出された後に残った溶融スラグです。
it is molten slag, left over after the iron has been extracted from the iron ore in the blast furnace.
Gretas World :D
People care about planting trees and electric cars and China be like: "Fuck it, no economy for that."
china planted more trees than any other country in the world and spends more per capita on green energy reserch than the whole of the west they are cleaning up their country big time I,ve seen it
@@stephenhill8790 You can't be serious...
@@torar_ I AM I HAVE BEEN OUT AS A ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT SO I DO KNOW
Just another industry ripe for disruption in the next 5 years.
poor peoples
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