Using Console N as a Channelstrip workhorse and this unit as an 'outboard EQ' gives absolute insane results! A rich analogue sound that easily holds up with the sound of my favourite producers (known to have nice desks, mixers and outboard gear). Producing electronic music in the box and longing for mixing desk non-linearities and fat/raw analog sound, this is absolute a no-brainer. Plugin Alliance is definitely the king right now!
After a long hiatus, tried to mix with this and a few other newer plugins that have transformer emulation. Plugs have come so far! Not much difference to hardware anymore. It's also fast to mix with this plugin. Just a few bands you can boost or cut, and it sounds good. So damn easy to make stuff sound good and separated in the midrange. That transformer sound modern plugs give is like a really expensive sounding finishing touch. Almost like passing audio through hardware. Lindell, Kiive and Pulsar. These guys know their stuff! Highly recommended.
This has become my go-to for vocals. It's one of those plugins that instantly sound good. You can get great results very quickly. The Eq bands combine perfectly, the compressor has a nice, bright color and the saturation fits the overall sound. Highly recommend trying this out!
I've been adding the NA Need 84 and Need Pre Trilogy -(73/81/84) to my Lindell 80 Channel and Bus . . . They play nice together . . . ! . . . Like at a Family Reunion BBQ . . . ! . . . And with the Lindell 80 Bus and Channel as the Foundation . . . The Need 84 comes sniffing around, saying . . . "Hey, What's Cooking over Here . . . !?@y@?! . . . ! . . . "It Sure Smells Good" . . . ! . . . "Can I Join In" . . . !?@y@?! . . . ! . . . 🙂 (-;
Kickass....I've been waiting for someone to make a plug-in like the Waves NLS with the channel and mix buss, but with the 1084 model, like the 8028 console at Sound City. It seems everyone does a 1073 emulation, but the 1084 is overlooked.
RUN do not walk to get this Lindell 80. Amazing 5 ways to Sunday. Watched a video of Robin from Neve talking about the BCM10 (sidecar 8028 kinda for $40k) to get more under the hood info from Neve and learn more about the sections. Gonna save that $40K for now! Putting the bus module across the busses? **lsdfoaiwefn(droool)lakf;oawenfw!** Stoopid good! Very exciting to work with. Between this and the Focusrite, PA has me questioning my Slate sub. Thanks for your videos, Mike! Your experience is invaluable!
I urge you to review Acustica Audio's Gold3 if you liked this Lindell 80 series! I trialled it recently and was blown away by the preamps (particularly bus 72 and 73), so i bought it last night. Would love to see a deep dive on the plugin from you. P.s. i bought your advanced mastering course a few hours ago, after years of following your youtube channel for free. Can't wait to dive in. Bless you. Bless you very much.
I think emulations of Vintage equipment should ditch those fixed frequencies. Those were technical and/or economical limitations of their time and you can’t tell me that engineers of that time weren’t happy when new EQs and console channels came out which didn’t have those limitations. At least make it optional, like e.g. shift+click let’s you fine tune the frequencies. Or the other way round like DMGaudio did with their trackcomp: even for the vintage emulations you have all the flexibility of modern software but when using the alt-key it gives you the stepped parameters with the original values (like the stepped attack of a SSLbus compressor).
You make a good point, but I am a bit divided on this. The fixed frequencies are part of the sound and it forces you to be resourceful the same way engineers from that time needed to be to achieve a great sounding record. My biggest frustration with using the 1073 was wanting that extra mid band. that's why I like the 1081 EQ the best for flexibility in that regard. Kinda the best of both worlds. If I had a complaint here, I wish I had the ability to change the order of the components to EQ after compression. Cheers! Mike
That interesting...I heard Sylvia Massy say how much she likes the 1073 style Eq for that reason because its difficult to mess up. I actually like the thought of that as well.. There are SO many options for continuously Variable EQ's, Slate's 1073 doesn't have the fixed frequencies if I remember correctly, that I actually dig this style myself, again for the reasons Michael was describing...all good stuff!
About 15:24 into this, when you click the Nuke button, there is a bunch of noise that comes into the audio that then shuts off when you turn off Nuke. Does that have something to do with the "noise" preference?
80 series consoles were designed by Rupert Neve, no compressors on every channel as you see in this plugin. These are the most iconic consoles in Neve's history. All consoles after these were designed by other engineers that worked for Neve. The BX Console N is an emulation of the Neve VXS, a late 90's console with compressors on every channel and a way more sophisticated signalflow and design. It has variable freqs on the EQs and also has gates on every channel. Sonically, they are both great sounding consoles but the 80 series has a much more uniquely rich tonal character to it than the VSX which is more transparent with a better high frequency response. The 80 series Neve's have richer low mids and low end that images more clearly than any other consoles out there. The tradeoff is a slight lack of clarity and smoothness on the top end. Hope this answers your question...
Plugin has a bug. Settings or changes made to the channel strip & bus will reset back to default after closing and opening (any) sessions. This happen in NI Maschine 2.8.5 and Studio One 4 (latest update). Running Windows 10 64 bit
Using Console N as a Channelstrip workhorse and this unit as an 'outboard EQ' gives absolute insane results! A rich analogue sound that easily holds up with the sound of my favourite producers (known to have nice desks, mixers and outboard gear). Producing electronic music in the box and longing for mixing desk non-linearities and fat/raw analog sound, this is absolute a no-brainer. Plugin Alliance is definitely the king right now!
PA owns the channelstrip market for sure!
@Pie de Boer How do you setup your daw? The Lindell on channel & Bus + Console N as an insert to process the signal ?
After a long hiatus, tried to mix with this and a few other newer plugins that have transformer emulation. Plugs have come so far! Not much difference to hardware anymore.
It's also fast to mix with this plugin. Just a few bands you can boost or cut, and it sounds good. So damn easy to make stuff sound good and separated in the midrange.
That transformer sound modern plugs give is like a really expensive sounding finishing touch. Almost like passing audio through hardware. Lindell, Kiive and Pulsar. These guys know their stuff! Highly recommended.
It's a joy to listen to you here because your excitement about this awesome plugin translates so well. Cheers
This has become my go-to for vocals. It's one of those plugins that instantly sound good. You can get great results very quickly. The Eq bands combine perfectly, the compressor has a nice, bright color and the saturation fits the overall sound. Highly recommend trying this out!
I’ve been adding the bus to the beginning of every chain and I’m loving the results
I've been adding the NA Need 84 and Need Pre Trilogy -(73/81/84) to my Lindell 80 Channel and Bus . . . They play nice together . . . ! . . . Like at a Family Reunion BBQ . . . ! . . . And with the Lindell 80 Bus and Channel as the Foundation . . . The Need 84 comes sniffing around, saying . . . "Hey, What's Cooking over Here . . . !?@y@?! . . . ! . . . "It Sure Smells Good" . . . ! . . . "Can I Join In" . . . !?@y@?! . . . ! . . . 🙂
(-;
You give the best plugin overviews on RUclips
It’s my favorite on heavy guitars and kick and snare. Soooo good!!!
Love your videos. So educational. It's "passion food" for me. Yes i just made up a term
Cheers!
Great review. I just got this and it's amazing. With Waves SSL, Omni and THIS. I got different tonal variations and totally fattens the sound. Thanks
I just bought this thing. Man.... it's pretty awesome.
Can't wait to hear it Mike. If you get a chance to bounce offline at x16, it would be great to hear your thoughts too.
Bouncing X16 sounds amazing!
Couldn’t wait for this one, thanks Mike!!🤘
This one caught me by surprise as did the Focusrite.
Always top-notch reviews.
Love PA/BW.
Any chance you could review Acustica Gold 3?
Cheers!
What an amazing plugin .... and very CPU friendly too.
Well made video! So informative!
Kickass....I've been waiting for someone to make a plug-in like the Waves NLS with the channel and mix buss, but with the 1084 model, like the 8028 console at Sound City. It seems everyone does a 1073 emulation, but the 1084 is overlooked.
Yeah, this is the only 1084 emulation that I know of. The 31102 is another great one from the 8068 that was a favorite of mine.
RUN do not walk to get this Lindell 80. Amazing 5 ways to Sunday. Watched a video of Robin from Neve talking about the BCM10 (sidecar 8028 kinda for $40k) to get more under the hood info from Neve and learn more about the sections. Gonna save that $40K for now! Putting the bus module across the busses? **lsdfoaiwefn(droool)lakf;oawenfw!** Stoopid good! Very exciting to work with. Between this and the Focusrite, PA has me questioning my Slate sub. Thanks for your videos, Mike! Your experience is invaluable!
Cheers Sean! And thanks for the extra info.
Hey Sean, tell me more about the Focusrite plugins! Why do you like them so much? Which ones are your favourites? Sell me...
Saw this released. Thought 'I'll wait until Michael's review and demo'. Thank you.
Glad I was able to turn this one around quickly
Always check up for your reviews 👍🏼 keep it up
Love the neve. Primarily use the pre and the eq. Its buttery smooth
what is buttery smooth actually mean?
I urge you to review Acustica Audio's Gold3 if you liked this Lindell 80 series! I trialled it recently and was blown away by the preamps (particularly bus 72 and 73), so i bought it last night. Would love to see a deep dive on the plugin from you.
P.s. i bought your advanced mastering course a few hours ago, after years of following your youtube channel for free. Can't wait to dive in. Bless you. Bless you very much.
On my list!
I think emulations of Vintage equipment should ditch those fixed frequencies. Those were technical and/or economical limitations of their time and you can’t tell me that engineers of that time weren’t happy when new EQs and console channels came out which didn’t have those limitations.
At least make it optional, like e.g. shift+click let’s you fine tune the frequencies. Or the other way round like DMGaudio did with their trackcomp: even for the vintage emulations you have all the flexibility of modern software but when using the alt-key it gives you the stepped parameters with the original values (like the stepped attack of a SSLbus compressor).
You make a good point, but I am a bit divided on this. The fixed frequencies are part of the sound and it forces you to be resourceful the same way engineers from that time needed to be to achieve a great sounding record. My biggest frustration with using the 1073 was wanting that extra mid band. that's why I like the 1081 EQ the best for flexibility in that regard. Kinda the best of both worlds.
If I had a complaint here, I wish I had the ability to change the order of the components to EQ after compression.
Cheers!
Mike
That interesting...I heard Sylvia Massy say how much she likes the 1073 style Eq for that reason because its difficult to mess up. I actually like the thought of that as well.. There are SO many options for continuously Variable EQ's, Slate's 1073 doesn't have the fixed frequencies if I remember correctly, that I actually dig this style myself, again for the reasons Michael was describing...all good stuff!
Thank you.Sounds great. I find the the UAD1073 richer and warmer, but that one as a great color anyway especially the compressor.
what does warmer mean to you?
About 15:24 into this, when you click the Nuke button, there is a bunch of noise that comes into the audio that then shuts off when you turn off Nuke. Does that have something to do with the "noise" preference?
This or the updated UAD API Vision channel strip plugin?
I am declaring this the first posted comment underneath this video program.
:-)
It's official !
Hi homeboy. How do you like it compared to a UAD Neve 1084? Which one is better
Great review again Mike, still thinking about doing a P.A. subscription but haven't decided yet. Bless & a good wknd.
Cheers! PA sub would be a great investment
What would be the difference in real world usage regarding the Lindell 80 and the Console-N?
80 series consoles were designed by Rupert Neve, no compressors on every channel as you see in this plugin. These are the most iconic consoles in Neve's history. All consoles after these were designed by other engineers that worked for Neve. The BX Console N is an emulation of the Neve VXS, a late 90's console with compressors on every channel and a way more sophisticated signalflow and design. It has variable freqs on the EQs and also has gates on every channel.
Sonically, they are both great sounding consoles but the 80 series has a much more uniquely rich tonal character to it than the VSX which is more transparent with a better high frequency response. The 80 series Neve's have richer low mids and low end that images more clearly than any other consoles out there. The tradeoff is a slight lack of clarity and smoothness on the top end.
Hope this answers your question...
@@mixingwithmike Thank you for your reply. I ended up purchasing it. I'm still unsure which one I like best, but practice makes perfect. lol
Plugin has a bug. Settings or changes made to the channel strip & bus will reset back to default after closing and opening (any) sessions. This happen in NI Maschine 2.8.5 and Studio One 4 (latest update). Running Windows 10 64 bit
on cubase 10 pro too
Hope they fix that soon
Don Classico the only (good) reason I haven’t bought it yet 🤷🏻♂️...just sayin’ PA (ahem)
@@stephenpertesis6738 its fixed now ehem lol