The New York Knicks Are OUT Of GAS!!
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
- The New York Knicks Are TOO GASSED To Beat The Indiana Pacers according to Gilbert Arenas as He & The Gil's Arena Crew discuss the Knicks back to back losses at the hands of the Indiana Pacers and debate if Coach Thibs intense rotations are too much to handle in the NBA Playoffs, leading to injuries for key players like Jalen Brunson, Julius Randle, OG Anunoby and Josh Hart.
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Keyon Martin always sit back and listen before speaking! Very wise man!
OG
Loved having him as a Knicks fan! He was great in Denver too
I love when he go bat shit crazy on Rashad though. 😂😂
😂 Using the word 'wise' when talking about Gil's Arena is hilarious
It’s actually because he has a stuttering problem that he now seems to have under control so those pregnant pauses aren’t him really thinking about his answer it’s his condition
1. Randle got injured because Jaime Jacquez made a reckless play
2. Mitch has been getting injured every year way before Thibs, his playoff injury Embiid INTENTIONALLY injured him
3. Bogdonavic BARELY got any minutes and then Batum dove into his ankles.
4. OG has been getting injured his entire career.
None of these injuries are because of Thibs, and the reason Thibs has been “running his guys into the ground” is because of these injuries all year that had nothing to do with minutes. If Thibs started playing Diakite and Charlie Brown, we would’ve been losing and he’d get heat for that too. So wtf do yall want the man to do? Knicks were dealt the most unlucky, shittiest hand this year, but it’s not because of Thibs
Well said .. idk what they expect
I agree with that. His rotations are what’s gonna keep him from winning a title or be a real contender. It’s the coach
What coaching is making the Knicks win a chip? Lmao. This the best they was gone do.
@@yoyoyonono6329 I know lmfao
It’s def the rotation but they don’t have 4 players
Idiot Randles injury Mitch and bogdonovic injuries aren’t from workload only Og u can make a case for but he’s only playing those minutes because of the other missing guys
His rotations are like that because he plays the guys who earn his trust if you don’t earn his trust he not playing you plus injuries Knicks really don’t have a lot of options rn but to do what they doing
I CANT TELL!!! 31pt VICTORY LAST NIGHT!... 3-2 KNICKS!!! lets go NY!!
Gil’s got a good point. This generation has gotten too soft to complain abt playing time
Gil's the face of this generation = spoiled, stupid, entitled, oblivious & have "0" intentions of playing hard to win = Gil brainwashed ALL these kids to just be themselves
gimme 5 mill a year ill play 60 minutes everygame clean the floor after and then go to the gym to work on my J
@@CahlilWesson they don't deserve or earn even that much
“do you!” 😂😂😂 8:57
Kenyon Martin was a SAVAGE when he was on the Knicks.
Better when he was on the Nets
@@loslakers530 Younger then too.
One man bands don't go far. They've been riding JB and no team can sustain that. They could have used JR's muscle and production in the paint.
JB has played 44 minutes multiple times in the past two weeks. Thibs is running him into the ground
@@baldeagle4710 Exactly
@@baldeagle4710did you not just hear what these 2 said lmao they’re supposed to be able to play that much they are way more durable than most teams
It ain’t even that deep lol they just lost og that’s it
I tried to tell Knicks fans that, but they thought it could happen
They missing OG and Julius
“You got 2 1/2 mins I do need some water”😂😂
Your videos are solid, keep up the good work
This is why coaches need to play everybody in the playoffs you never know what the others can do
Yes you do.. you had the whole season to tell 😂wtf are you talking about
OG, JR and Bogdanovic all hurt. That’s why the rotation is small. Those three would be in rotation for sure. So Thibs got to do what he has to do.
If I was in the NBA I want Josh Hart minutes 💪🏾🤷🏾♂️
They burned out by playing too much defense but hey better that way than to give up
they're too gassed b/c Thibs run his starters into the ground. been like that since the bulls
@kxngmuzikig2417 How is the Randle injury on Thibs? How is Mitch Robinson getting hurt on Thibs? I can give you OG but that's all.
@@jdxsr85let’s just honest here Doesn’t Tib have a track record of Players always getting Injuried on his watch.. check the consistency of the high number of minutes those players played while getting hurt playing for Tibs
@tipwewurkk6639 Thibs wasn't even at the top of the list of coaches who play their starters the most minutes this season fyi.
@tipwewurkk6639 Julius Randle and Jalen Brunson came in 15th in most minutes played this year fyi.
They also had an early start sunday, for a short handed team that could make a difference
I wanted to play every minute of every game. I hated it when my coach would take me out the game. If I got tired, a timeout would be called.
So now the old heads all averaged 48 mins huh🤣🤣
If they averaged 48 mins I’m pretty sure they were dead tired by game 4-5 of a playoff series
We in the civilian world work 10 hours a day for 6 days. Do you think an athlete playing all the game is tired?
Jesus....you zoomers are r*tards
The knicks are short handed. Down 2 starters. JR is whatever. But the losing started when OG went down. Simple. They need OG size and defensive capability while being a threat at the 3 and cutting.
Bro they play a basketball game for 48 mins every 2 days. How tf are they gassed. Soft ass players bro. Like hart said, people doing 12 hour shifts are tired. I agree with Gil
I guess Thibodaux ain't learned nothing from running D-Rose to the ground. Now, he's running his team to the ground
Brunson is the next Derrick Rose
@@baldeagle4710 It seems like it
@@baldeagle4710 ignorant casual smmfh
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@@Brilliance728 👍🏿
I knew eventually the Knicks would breakdown. Thibs is notorious for wearing his players out over the course of the season. It's not just the players logging a lot of minutes. I'm sure those players have had a lot of hard practices. All that adds up.
You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Have you ever seen a New York Knicks Practice?
Alot can be said about Thibs...but Knicks have missed 3 starters all the way from mid-point of the season. And in the playoffs, they are again, missing 3 starters and their best scorer off the bench. Let's look at that before we point at the coach.
They really only had one injury from January until the playoffs started
@@user-lt1fx2he5s your absolutely speaking out of your ass mitchell robinson, og, and randle were injured
No Mccants ?! I’m out
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The problem is thibs gives alot of the wrong guys minutes and doesnt play guys who can help..overplays our best players til theyre all hurt..josh hart cant keep this up the way he plays
This aged well huh?
Very well 😱
Its kind of simple. You have bigger stronger faster guys playing a more athletic style. Thus why the majoriry of the inuries are lower leg. No other sport requires EVERY player to make the amount of motions: runnig, jumping, changing the direction, changing speed, back pedal, potentially diving in every play ? Thats why you have to understand how todays players would wear out older generations. They are moving way too fast jumping way higher, shooting from farther .
It’s THIB!!! He is using his rotations are shit he’s using his shortened playoff lineup in the regular season
Answer to first question…..NO! Knicks just proved all pundits wrong. We are not running out of gas! Let’s go Knicks!
They were real tired game 5. Exhausted.
Guess that didn’t age too well🤣🤣
Hating on Julius is dumb, that man would play if he could and also just goes to show how good he is if you claim you know exactly where he’s going and he still gets the bucket. Also, one of the main facets of his game is his physicality and using the right shoulder to drive into defenders chests
Injured or not, Julius is missing anyway when it's PO time.
The TV timeouts are killing the league and the game. So much stopping and starting hard to get momentum and stop it also!
It may not be about the fatigue but there are two things can't be ignored: 1. the more minutes you play, the more likely you get injured; 2. the less the bench players are played, the worse they perform when they are needed. It is a vicious circle.
Where's the Pacer hater thought they was gonna get swept
Pacers ain't gonna get full respect, their path to the ECF was watered down by 2 severely banged up teams missing starters. Pacers may get to the ECF this year, but everyone knows they had a cake walk.
@@robertcampoverde7460If they lost to any of the watered down teams the media would be talking 💩about them. The Pacers have been beating the Bucks since last season and they beat the Knicks 2-1 this season…Pacers in 6🔥
@adrianmorris456 they would 100% get torched if they lose this series. They aren't going to lose those. So they will need to settle with the "you had a cake walk" narrative. Pacers have a good team, but nobody will recognize how good they are because of their first 2 rounds. That said, if they find a way to topple Boston, narrative will most likely change again. So they still got a chance. If they demolished by Boston though, you are definitely getting the "they wouldn't have been there if Bucks and Knicks were healthy" narrative.
You're 2-2 against a 7 players team, where 4 starters are injured and their star player too.
You definitely deserve respect smh
@@robertcampoverde7460that maybe the case if they beat the Knicks but I don't think so much the bucks I mean the regular season the pacers was 4-1 against a mainly healthy Buck's team & the only game the Bucks did win Giannis had to drop a franchise record 64 points to win now having said that this same pacers team dropped 140 in a win against a healthy Knicks team also & finished the regular season 2-1 against them & yes the regular season does matter regardless if the playoffs is totally different thing but people act like only one team can play better in the playoffs like the other team ain't gonna step their game up as well
It's the Cavs I dont understand; Allen been out for seven games with a rib contusion? Is it in his lung? Mitchell out with sore muscles?
For all you fans who arent GOOD at basketball or played basketball with PASSION a real hooper/baller whatever the fuck you wanna call it plays like 10-20 games of 21 and can be on the courts from sun to night playing. I used to wake up meet with the guys 5 am do runs all the way to 9-10pm and it was at a park where D1, OVERSEAS AND NBA PLAYERS ran runs.some nba refs did tournaments too.
And then you woke up from your dream.
Bro the nba players now train like Kobe just because they played 32 mins in a game don’t mean they weren’t up at 3am before the game training. Cos that’s what Kobe did and everyone started copying him
I never was a hooper but we always went to our local park after school. It was always the same guy on the court. Sometimes he was alone. Sometimes he was playing 21 w/ someone. Sometimes he was in a pickup game. But he was always there, everyday.
@@luvdemjets1998its always a guy that coulda made it big but got hurt in college or sum, got one of those in my neighborhood he been nice ever since i shot a ball
More scoring threats=more rotates
More rotates= More running
Players as a WHOLE train more today, do more on court, all while as a whole doing more stuff off the court. This decades pace is the highest ever , obviously they ain’t gon be less tired.
I hear you, but if the other teams best player is getting more rest due to depth of the talent pool, it’s gonna be tough.
Who's the best player
facts in mike first 8 seasons minus the year he got hurt he missed 7 games before retirement .. all 82 deep playoff run without all the modern day technology
It comes down.
To this indiana has more soldiers than new york point blank period have a good night
He never played 40 minutes in his basketball life so why is he talking shit IT'S alot to get beat up every night for the whole game .
Gilbert so funny 😂
This aged well 😱😳
the 80s players and the 90s players have like 10 year careers... todays players are 15 seasons+ thats the effect of rest and recovery.
Let us assume you are correct. Why not just let us all come over to your house and play the games on your computer.
That way the players can play for 80 years. That's assuming they can use a game 🎮 controller at 5 years old.
But you are not correct. So we will have to stick with the game we have
There's plenty of players back in the day who played 15 plus seasons. Like alot
@@josedelnegro46 ... if you think the world only works in those extremes than you cant be helped. It is an effect called "diminishing marginal returns". You have to be shape and play enough games to be properly conditioned (Joel Emiid suffered from this on this playoff run) but too many games/minutes will deteriorate performance (the knicks right now). And there are literally thousands of fitness podcast, books, studies and scientific proof of the important of rest and recover on performance. Its really not a hard concept to grasp.
@@kingjulian3997 ok.. fine "plenty of players" played 15 seasons.. do you think the number of players playing 15 seasons has increase or decreased over time?
that’s the impact of resting games, this is not the impact of playing less minutes a game, all that does is harm the conditioning for when the post season come
Was going to go off on these fools but they gave the best take from all media outlets, and the knicks proved that it was just a bad game. Gave them the same smackdown in game 5. Let's go knicks.
Tatum and JB a couple years ago they were tired after the east
Yep. And Steph was fresh as a daisy because he sat out the last 6 weeks of the regular season and they mostly breezed through the Western Conf playoffs. That's why I think the Celtics are being smart this time: 'Don't kill yourself or risk injury over one game in series.'
“Not to say those players aren’t good enough, but they’re not good enough to win a championship…” she might as well said, no disrespect 😂😂😂
If you want guys to play high minutes then the trade off will be more bad games because of fatigue and shorter career prime for players plus most guys play more total games in high school at that pace and time limit than they do college games so they’re bodies will break down much sooner in the NBA
Julius, Mitch, bogey and OG out. Don’t comment on the Knicks if you haven’t watched this season. The bench are starters right now
Same ol coach tom.
Yea they look exhausted last night huh
these people know basketball
We don’t care what Gilbert gotta say Knicks fans ready to go win or lose it was a great season
This aged well or it still is hahaha
Thibs have no choice most of his starter was already hurt didnt run none of them to the ground got to play the hand u dealt .....trying see if 12 thru 15 can show something
He should have rested JB in Game 3 though
Reminds me of when derrick rose got hurt.
Knicks are down Randle,Mitchell and OG,,,it is what it is.
They were doing to find a game plan eventually. Jaylen not gonna hit 40 a game all the way to a ring. Good coaching and teams will shut his down
I agree about Randle only going left smh. BUT HE WOULD COOK BOTH OF YOU IN REAL LIFE!
So i wanna see Gil's response to Knicks Pacers Game 5. Are they actually out of gas?
JB Donte OG Randle Ihart/ Mcbride, hart, Bogs, Precious, Mitch.. thats thibs rotation.. 10 players he doesnt have 4 of them n yall keep saying he running players into ground.. yall sound stupid.. he has no choice.. yall want him to trust his reserves..
Bring back rj and iq!! I love that answer haha
If with Anunoby Knicks were overperforming. At some point its just too much
Thibs got them goin crazy on defense then they look like a shell of their self on offense late.
It’s K Mart😂🏁🏁🏁🫡
If I’m the wolfs I’ll be looking to add Josh hart
He not leaving his best friends
Update
We’re cooked
The 90's players were conditioned to play 40+ minutes. Player's these days are conditioned to play 40 games total!!!
There way more possessions now then the 90s you knew that though you just choose to ignore it
How is Adam so sure he did it?
I’m reading these comments and y’all really blaming the coach. Saying he playing these professional athletes to the grown
How about you blame the players
For not conditioning themselves
Not being in the gym
Let’s keep it real all these injuries have to do with the players not training hard
They play the game and go home
We hear now how they don’t really practice anymore
So..y'all gone cover the wnba season? ☠️
They just got a lot of players hurt that’s it they undermanned
Don't understand why this is such a big deal. Like Gil said back in his playing days, players routinely played 40 plus minutes. This is the same story with pitchers in baseball. No one pitches complete games anymore. Sports is getting soft.
Man this didn't age well.... 😴
It’s 2 fold:
1. Thibs is synonymous with running his players into the ground(I still blame him for D.Rose’s career altering injury)
2. The game is faster and there’s more ground to cover, so those things compounded with the minutes is a different game than the slow paced, inside the 3 point line game of old.
They Missing Randel At This Point To Bang
Who’s Russell?
@@mandunya my Fault…Randal
I told everyone I know the Knicks should’ve thrown those to home games and just balled out at home. That’s the point of home court. They would’ve had rest and maybe burkes would’ve come alive.
If you love the competition and love playing basketball you want to play 48 mins.
Everyone knows Tibbs destroys players
That’s just narrative from his bulls days I don’t think that the case here is
Thibs is known for riding his players into the ground. The pace of play is different than in the 90s and 00s. The Knicks are definitely feeling the ill effects of playing too much. Players are getting injured and it’s just a matter of time.
Exactly
Here's the thing though, the Pacers can play their pace for 48 minutes BECAUSE they have fresh legs. The Knicks don't condition to defend that because the Pacers don't even condition for that. They lean on their bench.
It ain’t even that deep the Knicks just lost og that’s the reason
Organisations a😢responsible for the league being a injury riddled team. They draft injury prone players year after year and because one is such a “generational talent” they ignore the obvious. We know this but we still force it. AD, Zion, Kyrie,Joel…we knew this coming in then blame them for being unhealthy.
Kenyon never made an all defensive team but be acting like he is the all time defender
I bet Commissioner Silver was happy to see the boxscores of 31 Free throws Knicks and 8 Pacers but than saw the Final score and had the same reaction as he had at the All Star game 😂. Everyone knows the league wants Knicks vs Celtics in the ECF!
The fts are almost always unbalanced in favor of the team getting blown out. The nba doesn't want unwatchable games
no man. That msg magic will revive them. expect only a 10 pt pacer win
Sike. How about a 30 pt loss
Brunson is they only offense you can’t win like that you only get so far
Ofcourse they running on empty thibbs been running them top starters into the fucking ground
We’ve known this forever tho. There’s a reason why thibs is ranked as the worst coach to play for for like 3 yrs running and like half the yrs out of the last 15. You can’t run dudes. 45-48 mins a night. Humans aren’t machines
Paid more, play less and injure more???
I do think Thibs runs his guys into the ground during the regular season and it comes back to bite during the playoffs
This happens every year with a tibbs team
no it dosent yall just run with narratives
But people keep hiring Thibs. lol I don’t understand why his bosses don’t demand a diff approach, I don’t know why he doesn’t demand a diff approach
CASUAL NON KNICKS DONT COMMENT.. YOU DONT EVEN FOLLOW THE KNICKS SMMFH LMAO
They keep hiring him because all his teams go to the playoffs and he gets the most out of the talent he has to work with
Lazy take
They getting out worked and out coached
they dont have depth they keep getting injured man
No excuses. He ran the depth into the ground too@@deanthelemur1716
We're missing 4 key pieces. How are you supposed to win like that?
Gil doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about he’s always comparing the game today to when he played new flash Gil they play faster and move quicker laterally vs the 2000s the wear and tear on the knees and body is far worse right now than it’s ever been that’s why you see so many freak injuries that are non contact
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But but but these guys can go play in the NFL right now lol? Ronnie Lott cut his finger off and kept playing.
For the first time i agree with arenas…it is what it is..luka on a bad knee is averaging like 42 min in the playoffs..everyone is hurt in playoffs
How bout them pacers🐶🐶
3-1 and knicks out of gas.... you guys trying to be wrong every day?
Fire Thibs PLEASE. Hes been proving for years that he shortens careers