Thankyou for featuring our shortlived national pride Proton Putra WRC.... But atleast its successor were competetive and alive including: -Proton Satria Neo s2000 -Proton Iriz R5
My favourite car has to be the proton wat a bad ass looking car and a great size and wat a shame set of circumstances that led to the colin mcrae R4 not being released not to say we also lost one of the most exciting talented and fearless drivers and a great man but that's just life I suppose anyways awesome video bro I'm definitely subbed up
Who else thought the Peugeot 305 looked pretty awesome and would of looked great in livery on an rally stage would love to know how that would of done 🤔
@@kressy its okay that like 5 months ago I barely knew a thing so I wrote that. It was too dangerous to race in that cars and 5 months ago I didn't know that.
I saw the proton many times as i worked at Prodrive. I believe it was the only one made. The gearbox was part of a program that involved Skoda (octavia) and Seat so they all shared development costs . I built most of the Skoda boxes with a colleague and did a lot of work with the Seat too.
I was present at Goodwood 2006 when the McRae R4 was first shown; I recall there being plenty of attention to it from both the public and other drivers. In fact I've read Petter Solberg managed to reserve the first production model for himself whenever it would have been produced! A travesty that we lost Colin and his wonderful project to provide a car that was inexpensive, versatile, and supported younger drivers getting into the sport. I believe the only example is owned and preserved by his father Jimmy McRae; it would be great to see it out on active display again someday.
Nice video. The Escort RS1700T actually did compete in rallying. Ford SA campaigned one in the South African Rally Championship from '83 to '86. It's only victory was in the Nissan International Rally of 1985.
Best regard from 🇲🇾! Thankyou for featuring our shortlived national pride Proton Putra WRC.... But atleast its successor were competetive and alive including: -Proton Satria Neo s2000 -Proton Iriz R5
Kita dah patut competitive lebih dari Ford or VW. NEO S2000 dulu pun lawan dgn Fiesta dan Polo. Last2 kelaut jadinya. Karamjit pun dpt bawak NEO 1.6 je. Memang lahanat puak management Proton lepas Tuan Syed dicampak ke UiTM.😡
Great video! I really cannot imagine why someone would hit dislike. Unfortunately the rally world is not like the old days. Group B was superb, even Group A at the 90s was great.
Could any one sue FIAT for destroying Lancia as a brand and technical and design-wise phalanx?!? The S4 was already obscene, but the ECV ... who would not like to see it in drag races against F1 or motorcycles? Just as a german rally driver (don't remember who exactly) said: the S4 acceleractes like a motorbike, in any single gear.
You cannot sue FIAT for what they do to their own assets. All these conglomerates make cars to sell and hence make money, they sell whats profitable or dont sell it at all, lancia was owned by fiat even before all the rally shenanigans but i guess when they left the wrc the promotion through it of the sporty models ended hence the demand plumited and they decided to just make whatever of the marque.
@@strahinjastevic7480 but it is still a crime how they treat a legendary icon brand. I mean: what did Chrysler add to automobile history compared to Lancia?
Great video! It's a shame us Malaysians never got to see the Putra WRC in action. If it did ran, Prodrive will have difficulties taking care two factory teams at the same time 😆 At least the car got its resting place that it deserves....I wonder when will they fire up that car for the public? 😁
Everything I have read about Group S says that the engines were intended to be limited to 300 hp to reduce speeds to a manageable level, so we never would have seen the crazy power numbers here in real life. In a way the class morphed into World Rally Car; with the 300hp limit, and low homologation numbers so car makers didn’t need to produce a turbo 4WD model to compete.
È incredibile come tutto era vario e cambiava velocemente nell'epoca dei gruppi B, con questo non voglio dire che sono migliori ma questa componente purtroppo si è persa
All these unraced cars got me thinking about concepts, specifically the Peugeot Quasar which I had a model of as a kid, and up one pops at the end of the video, nice one! :-)
Hate the Audi it sounds great but looks shit. Colins R4 was amazing, so sad that Jimmy or Alistair didn't finish the project in honour of Colin. I actually like the look of the Proton even though its side profile is very similar to the Subaru, but that's not a bad thing 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🏁
If you think Colin's R4 contraption was amazing, what you reckon of Andy Burtons creations then!..Let's be honest,you can't really mention home built specials in the same breath as factory developed cars.
Wow, interesting video. Even though qi'm a rally fan, I wasn't aware of the very short-lived Group S era. I would have liked to see the Proton Putra WRC in action, it would have been interesting to see competing against Subaru, Mitsubishi & Ford at that time. And even more specially the McRae R4 with all it represents. Keep on racing hard where ever you are now Colin, and thanks for the show !
You know, they built testing circuit for Audi near the town Zlín. (Barum rallye) Jestli si to chceš najít na mapě, tak je to u obce Dešná kousek od Zlína.
I was thinking Porsche 959 but it did race winning the Paris Dakar and it's class at the 24hours of Le Mans but I think the Ferrari 288GTO never raced.
@@brinquedosdepaiefilho its simply a mirage asti with impreza 22b styling because prodrive doing gc8 coupe wrc car at the same time...so it make sense it have the similar design language
Ned Boase The current 2020 Kristoffersson WRX Polo is the ex-Solberg 2018 WRX chassis, which was the ex-Mikkelsen 2016 WRC chassis (chassis no. 16 if I am not wrong)
@@haruntheworld i think it's a 2014 one, guess they didnt care that it was an early spec one since they needed to convert most of it anyway, all the rallycross polos before 2017 were purpose built.
Buddy14 Previous Johan’s Polo is now driven by Sondre Evjen in EuroRX (still Kristoffersson Motorsport Team) Of course, RX cars don’t need to have been WRC’s before, and there is many cars that are proper builds for RX. But for 2018, with the Diesel Gate, VW retired from WRC. So they looked for a cheaper championship, and created a Factory/Private Team the VW-PSRX(-KMS) Team. VW bring their WRC car with some 2018 Evo spec, and they together convert it. That’s also why these cars have their radiator on the front.
The Audi Quattro RS002 looks like a circuit car, maybe for Le Mans. Maybe if the Group S was not cancelled, WRC cars would be like this Audi. The Colin McRae R4 looks like a mini Group S. Thanks for this video.
so how many times did Mercedes abort from the WRC shortly before the season? Seem to recall the 190e 2.3-16 was originally intended for WRC but quietly "redeployed" to ETCC duties as soon as the Quattro appeared.
Love all these cars, great video! I especially like the RS1700T, classic 80's shape for me. I wonder if in 30 years time we will be looking back at EV rally car prototypes??
It's crazy to think about just how revolutionary the quattro system was. Also, the D4 was also meant to be an affordable car for amateur teams just starting out. Shame that history had other plans...
Yeah. Just sad that Audi Sport and Roland Gumpert weren't allowed to build a pure mid-engined rally car. They already knew the Quattro would suffer in 1982.
Ahora se puede añadir el Toyota Yaris GR WRC en esta lista, puesto que no va a debutar en el 2021. The Toyota Yaris GR WRC can now be added to this list, as it will not debut in 2021.
Just as a little pointer, the mk3 escort driving over the carpet, isn't an rs1700t. Its a gartrac mk3 with a vauxhall XE engine in it. Its a tribute to the rs1700t. The rest are genuine rs1700t.
Thanks man, for now I am only on RUclips, I don't have a big Channel... Maybe If It grows I Will open an Instagram or facebook Page... But why this question?
Good choice, even tho dacia didn't participate at rally, there are people that use them at rally, like the sandero or the old ones like the supernova,solenza and models with numbers as names (ex: 1100,1300,1310,1400 and 1410 sport.
I for one was kind of glad Group S was cancelled. These things made group B look like toy cars and coupled with uncontrollable crowds we would have seen a massive tragedy. That would maybe have resulted in rallying probably being banned for good
50.000! Finally!! This is a special video for this goal, thank you guys!
No, thank you!!! Greetings from Germany!
Thankyou for featuring our shortlived national pride
Proton Putra WRC....
But atleast its successor were competetive and alive including:
-Proton Satria Neo s2000
-Proton Iriz R5
My favourite car has to be the proton wat a bad ass looking car and a great size and wat a shame set of circumstances that led to the colin mcrae R4 not being released not to say we also lost one of the most exciting talented and fearless drivers and a great man but that's just life I suppose anyways awesome video bro I'm definitely subbed up
Who else thought the Peugeot 305 looked pretty awesome and would of looked great in livery on an rally stage would love to know how that would of done 🤔
Audi: makes an AWD car
everyone: * retires their RWD car *
Lancia: Here's our 037.
@@lenartsparovec5157 needed though
@@lenartsparovec5157 nope, the car that ended group b was the delta s4
@@kressy I know the crash of Henri Toivonen
@@lenartsparovec5157 ah sorry mate. I misunderstood what you meant there
@@kressy its okay that like 5 months ago I barely knew a thing so I wrote that. It was too dangerous to race in that cars and 5 months ago I didn't know that.
Ford RS1700T was used for 2 full seasons in rallies in South Africa. Serge Damsaux was the driver. Was successfull.
Lancia today 😣
@@ugo.g477 what does that have to do with the original comment?
Thank you for that! I could have sworn i'd seen it race but really couldn't be arse to do a search.
I saw the proton many times as i worked at Prodrive. I believe it was the only one made. The gearbox was part of a program that involved Skoda (octavia) and Seat so they all shared development costs . I built most of the Skoda boxes with a colleague and did a lot of work with the Seat too.
Any known testing mileage done? Or does it run at all?
Had to laugh when i read, "a more extreme version of the S4."
The Lancia Delta S4 was already batshit crazy enough!
facts group S would have been insane lol
Old lancia's cars is always wonderful. And well designed. My dream will always be an old lancia
Lancia today 😣
@@ugo.g477 the new Stratos cloud return to rally
@@graysonbyass-rascoe4326 thats not an actual lancia
@@strahinjastevic7480 what do you mean it's the name of the world rally championship winning car
@@graysonbyass-rascoe4326 the new "stratos" has nothing to do with lancia
Great video I actually learnt a few things and saw a few cars I hadn’t seen before, very well researched, great job!
That Toyota Mr2 😍
750kg and 2,2L 750hp engine... that's nuts!
Also looks evil, i love it!
Power to weight ratio is precisely at 1:1
@@zeeks4338 Koenigsegg grandfather
Just wondering how much it related to the Group B Celica?!?
@@martinb.770 u mean wrc/ group a?
@@captainautismo5452 no, Group B, the square-edged one, not the later curvy model
I was present at Goodwood 2006 when the McRae R4 was first shown; I recall there being plenty of attention to it from both the public and other drivers. In fact I've read Petter Solberg managed to reserve the first production model for himself whenever it would have been produced! A travesty that we lost Colin and his wonderful project to provide a car that was inexpensive, versatile, and supported younger drivers getting into the sport. I believe the only example is owned and preserved by his father Jimmy McRae; it would be great to see it out on active display again someday.
The R4 is looked after by Bill Gwynne Motorsport and it was on static show at the Syresham Classic Car show a coupe of weeks ago
Is it based on a focus ?
@@thephantomarse8525 Ford Ka - front engined 2.5 Millington
@@sydwall4445
Wow cool i had never seen one untill this video sad that we lost colin and it never went into production
Nice video. The Escort RS1700T actually did compete in rallying. Ford SA campaigned one in the South African Rally Championship from '83 to '86. It's only victory was in the Nissan International Rally of 1985.
That Is a news for me. You are right. Sorry
Competed in Ireland too...
Love that Pug 305 with blistered arches
Best regard from 🇲🇾!
Thankyou for featuring our shortlived national pride
Proton Putra WRC....
But atleast its successor were competetive and alive including:
-Proton Satria Neo s2000
-Proton Iriz R5
Kita dah patut competitive lebih dari Ford or VW. NEO S2000 dulu pun lawan dgn Fiesta dan Polo. Last2 kelaut jadinya. Karamjit pun dpt bawak NEO 1.6 je. Memang lahanat puak management Proton lepas Tuan Syed dicampak ke UiTM.😡
Fact::: 99% of people clicked this to see that lancia on the thumbnail ❤️
I’m one of them 👍......stunning shot of a car👍
Great video! I really cannot imagine why someone would hit dislike. Unfortunately the rally world is not like the old days. Group B was superb, even Group A at the 90s was great.
I'm in love with the ECV2 since I'm a kid.
Thanks for this great work !
I love the wicked race car designs in the 80s! That would never happen nowdays
Could any one sue FIAT for destroying Lancia as a brand and technical and design-wise phalanx?!?
The S4 was already obscene, but the ECV ... who would not like to see it in drag races against F1 or motorcycles?
Just as a german rally driver (don't remember who exactly) said: the S4 acceleractes like a motorbike, in any single gear.
You cannot sue FIAT for what they do to their own assets. All these conglomerates make cars to sell and hence make money, they sell whats profitable or dont sell it at all, lancia was owned by fiat even before all the rally shenanigans but i guess when they left the wrc the promotion through it of the sporty models ended hence the demand plumited and they decided to just make whatever of the marque.
@@strahinjastevic7480 but it is still a crime how they treat a legendary icon brand. I mean: what did Chrysler add to automobile history compared to Lancia?
congratulations for the 50000, but you deserve much more ! Although french i've learned new things about the 305 v6 and the Logan, tks for that 👍
Great video! It's a shame us Malaysians never got to see the Putra WRC in action. If it did ran, Prodrive will have difficulties taking care two factory teams at the same time 😆
At least the car got its resting place that it deserves....I wonder when will they fire up that car for the public? 😁
Toyota MR2 (222D)
Production date: 1984
Engine: 2.2L
Power: 750 BHP
Weight: 750Kg
😳 WTF!? 😂💪👍
Everything I have read about Group S says that the engines were intended to be limited to 300 hp to reduce speeds to a manageable level, so we never would have seen the crazy power numbers here in real life.
In a way the class morphed into World Rally Car; with the 300hp limit, and low homologation numbers so car makers didn’t need to produce a turbo 4WD model to compete.
È incredibile come tutto era vario e cambiava velocemente nell'epoca dei gruppi B, con questo non voglio dire che sono migliori ma questa componente purtroppo si è persa
That SL was sold as a coupe for awhile, with alloy trunk and boot lids and 5.0 engine it was a blast
You forgot the Porsche 959.
That Lancia 🤪🤪🤪
sergio covelli looks like an absolute rally weapon!! I would choose the lancia if i had the choice🤩
Unica e insuperabile....missile terra aria.....
Only 600 hp .... I don't think . The last s4 was powered by 700 hp engine
@@pietrobruseghini8021 the ECV1 was said to have 800hp, not 600hp.
Excellent video! Some cars I never knew existed. Thank you so much. Richard from South Africa
Wow, there is some great research involved in this video! Thanks for sharing your passion!
That MR2 is wild!
Imagine all those rally cars designed for group b but never met the light of day
Like the Daihatsu Charade. Would have altered the image of that car so much.
WOW TheRub! This is a stunning video
Well if group B hadn't been abolished we would have seen Ferrari 288 compete as well probably...
Well, i always thought that group S was racing cars and not rallly cars, i was wrong :)
All these unraced cars got me thinking about concepts, specifically the Peugeot Quasar which I had a model of as a kid, and up one pops at the end of the video, nice one! :-)
Hate the Audi it sounds great but looks shit. Colins R4 was amazing, so sad that Jimmy or Alistair didn't finish the project in honour of Colin. I actually like the look of the Proton even though its side profile is very similar to the Subaru, but that's not a bad thing 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🏁
If you think Colin's R4 contraption was amazing, what you reckon of Andy Burtons creations then!..Let's be honest,you can't really mention home built specials in the same breath as factory developed cars.
Richard burns is a better rally driver than Colin mcrae
That Peugeot is beautiful. I'm salivating.
Awesome video, some real “blasts from the past” there 👍
Wow, interesting video. Even though qi'm a rally fan, I wasn't aware of the very short-lived Group S era. I would have liked to see the Proton Putra WRC in action, it would have been interesting to see competing against Subaru, Mitsubishi & Ford at that time.
And even more specially the McRae R4 with all it represents. Keep on racing hard where ever you are now Colin, and thanks for the show !
The logan looks like it was mended in a shed
Lancia should be first in that list!
🏁
I am from Czech republic and I'm amazed by the fact that the Audi tested Quattro 2 in here during that era.
You know, they built testing circuit for Audi near the town Zlín. (Barum rallye)
Jestli si to chceš najít na mapě, tak je to u obce Dešná kousek od Zlína.
@@jangenzer424 Aha, já jsem původem ze Zlína, ale toto jsem netušil. Děkuju!
Enhorabuena y gracias por tus vídeos!!!
Wow that 305 is stunning
Very good video
And congrats 50k ;)
Congrats on 50k
I was thinking Porsche 959 but it did race winning the Paris Dakar and it's class at the 24hours of Le Mans but I think the Ferrari 288GTO never raced.
Fascinating video with all those weird looking prototypes
That Proton would've been a *very* interesting development.
When the final decision was given to a lady in a goverment's department fuck it all up!
Proton just took the front of a lancer and the back of a Impreza
No, not the taillights, they are from an 90's Mitsubishi Colt.
@@antongustafssonhall7780 exactly what I would say, thank you. But still, it looks a lot like a Subaru rear end lol
mirage asti
@@brinquedosdepaiefilho its simply a mirage asti with impreza 22b styling because prodrive doing gc8 coupe wrc car at the same time...so it make sense it have the similar design language
And too bad even we malaysian didnt even manage to see how it drive or testing
Great thank for these video and for showing us those special killed models!!!
👍👍👍😉
Bet the magician didnt expect his trick to work so well!
Wow, this is awesome work dude, I’ve seen these cars but only mainly in pictures so to see them all on film is crazy Cool 😎, Cheer’s for the upload 👍
Bravo, hai avuto una bella idea a creare questo video! Complimenti.
That was some good info 👍👍
Great video! Many congratulations 👍
The Proton is a Mitsubishi Mirage Asti! Super badass to see it was a WRC car!
this toyota Group S car looks amazing
The Polo runs strong in FIA WRX
Different thing
Ned Boase The current 2020 Kristoffersson WRX Polo is the ex-Solberg 2018 WRX chassis, which was the ex-Mikkelsen 2016 WRC chassis (chassis no. 16 if I am not wrong)
@@haruntheworld i think it's a 2014 one, guess they didnt care that it was an early spec one since they needed to convert most of it anyway, all the rallycross polos before 2017 were purpose built.
Buddy14 Previous Johan’s Polo is now driven by Sondre Evjen in EuroRX (still Kristoffersson Motorsport Team)
Of course, RX cars don’t need to have been WRC’s before, and there is many cars that are proper builds for RX.
But for 2018, with the Diesel Gate, VW retired from WRC.
So they looked for a cheaper championship, and created a Factory/Private Team the VW-PSRX(-KMS) Team.
VW bring their WRC car with some 2018 Evo spec, and they together convert it.
That’s also why these cars have their radiator on the front.
Buddy14 PS : and after 2 years, when VW retired from the collaboration, Kristoffersson buy one (and I believe that Solberg did the same)
6:00 Oh you touch my tralala
The rs002 has that interesting mix between rs200 and porsche and the sound of quattro
the volkswagen polo races all the time in WRX lol. thanks for showing the ford escort 1700T :) had that kit on my crappy xr3i in 1998
It was not the WRC plus version that VW used in WRX
@@TheRUBrally cool...did not kow that. thx for the info
Its freaky how much the mr2 looks like a lancia 037
Really informative and interesting video. Top man
Thank you from Belgium!!
The Audi Quattro RS002 looks like a circuit car, maybe for Le Mans.
Maybe if the Group S was not cancelled, WRC cars would be like this Audi.
The Colin McRae R4 looks like a mini Group S.
Thanks for this video.
6:57 James may dream rally car 😂
Definetly
@@cecainemaresainnebunesc8962 qduuko0
The road at14:15 is Cwmystwyth,between Rhayader and Devils Bridge in Wales.
There is someone that use a Dacia like this for rally near where i live that's really cool
Gutted we never got to see that Polo
It would have been nice to the 'Mazda Familia Sport 4' in that list, but it was so, so rare, you probably didn't know it existed.
My favourite is the Polo WRC plus
Agree!
Tested by Marcus Gronholm
The Mercedes 450SLC came 3rd in the 1980 Safari Rally and the 500SLC 1st and 2nd in the Cote d'Ivoire of the same year according to the WRC website.
i saw the car number 8 for sale some years ago, i dont know what happen to it, what a shame, i saved some pictures of it
They kept it at the now defunct R3 workshop in Shah Alam Malaysia.
so how many times did Mercedes abort from the WRC shortly before the season? Seem to recall the 190e 2.3-16 was originally intended for WRC but quietly "redeployed" to ETCC duties as soon as the Quattro appeared.
Love all these cars, great video!
I especially like the RS1700T, classic 80's shape for me.
I wonder if in 30 years time we will be looking back at EV rally car prototypes??
awesome video
Nice video, but where is Ferrari 288 GTO? It was build for group B, but also never raced...
Hi, I was in doubt to insert It. Following my researches and some other rally experts opinions, It is not sure that It was a missing group b car.
@@TheRUBrally, well, I'm not an expert :)
4:40, can see the Boreham Ford Motorsport technical legend, the late Mick Jones in this group photo.
It's crazy to think about just how revolutionary the quattro system was. Also, the D4 was also meant to be an affordable car for amateur teams just starting out. Shame that history had other plans...
Yeah. Just sad that Audi Sport and Roland Gumpert weren't allowed to build a pure mid-engined rally car. They already knew the Quattro would suffer in 1982.
Just Lancia❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Gran video, alcune auto conosciute e altre meno. Sei riuscito a reclutare qualche inglese?
La scena con Robin Hood della Disney mi ha steso😁
Ahaha speravo qualcuno lo notasse! No purtroppo è tutto inglese del mio sacco... Speriamo non ci siano troppi errori
Lancia ECV2 looks like the Quattro RS002, but better
It doesn’t look one bit like it but k
very nice video !!
Cool Video 😊
awesome....great video...........MK2 AWESOME
Looks like Subaru stole the Proton Putra design in broad day light right in front of them!
😂
This Proton is basically a Mitsubishi
Nice video, though I hoped to see Lada Samara Eva included in video also....
Wait Proton are still testing their car. +1 from me the video was great. (Didnt know benz tried in rally sport :D)
guess a driving couch and going fast over bumpy roads dont mix too well :D
Ahora se puede añadir el Toyota Yaris GR WRC en esta lista, puesto que no va a debutar en el 2021.
The Toyota Yaris GR WRC can now be added to this list, as it will not debut in 2021.
Yes, I am looking to create another 10 cars list with also the GR WRC ;)
Just as a little pointer, the mk3 escort driving over the carpet, isn't an rs1700t. Its a gartrac mk3 with a vauxhall XE engine in it. Its a tribute to the rs1700t. The rest are genuine rs1700t.
I really would love to have seen how the cars evolved had group B not got banned. Formula R
You should’ve put the 308 GT/M group b Ferrari in, I’m pretty sure it didn’t race but I’m not 100% sure
Was the colin mcrae car just a focus rs/st with different pannels the shape looks the same and has a 2.5l engine too
Great work!
Thanks for car history lesson.)
Do you have a instagram page? Or other type media?
Thanks man, for now I am only on RUclips, I don't have a big Channel... Maybe If It grows I Will open an Instagram or facebook Page... But why this question?
Logan S2000 😍
Good choice, even tho dacia didn't participate at rally, there are people that use them at rally, like the sandero or the old ones like the supernova,solenza and models with numbers as names (ex: 1100,1300,1310,1400 and 1410 sport.
I for one was kind of glad Group S was cancelled. These things made group B look like toy cars and coupled with uncontrollable crowds we would have seen a massive tragedy. That would maybe have resulted in rallying probably being banned for good
Oh how you tease by showing the Peugeot Quasar at 15:10
thats an epic moment 5:42 🤩
the Mercedes did race in wrc :-) with Peter Diekmann & Holger Bohne, Rally San Remo 1981
According to my researches, that was not the Mercedes in this video, but another (not so much) different model :)
Privileged to have my videos as part of this. Thank you
Never raced? They are alive and kicking to me 😉