I Fake My Guitar Videos, And You Should Too 😱
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Everyone has different rules on what’s acceptable here, but also most people are truly misinformed with how many of their favorite classic albums all include studio trickery.
There’s a reason so many 80s albums are all slightly sharp of A440.
My point is anyone calling Justin a fake has no idea what they’re talking about. Dude is a monster player and has nothing to hide
Right, and personally I feel like the studio is the place for experimenting and tweaking. The problem is in a live setting. If you have to fake that and deceive, then you've got a problem.
oh man, this is the spicy content we need!
in all seriousness... you hit the nail on the head with this vid man, I can 100% relate.
Yeah, there's something about once you hit record, lol. There are so many times that i play a solo perfectly over and over but then hit record and it all goes out the window 😂
Or when you know someone is hearing you all of a sudden. "I'm not actually this bad, I swear!"
Very big of you to talk openly about this. Thank you
You hit the nail on the head 🤘🏼 When I first started out uploading around 2017/2018, I’d spend all day (literally) recording a 5 minute track, trying to get it perfect in one take. This was under the assumption (as well as my naivety) all the other pros got a 100% genuine take, 100% of the time.
When I learned from a friend of mine (a well-known guitarist I won’t name) that he does the odd punch-in here, and might pre-record something there, it helped a lot knowing that even guys like him are human, and he simply doesn’t have the time to spend all day getting a take that’s 100% accurate.
Although I won’t pre-record with the intention of miming it (because it seems to obvious to me), I’ll do it to firstly, thoroughly practice what I’m filming. When I film the take for real, I’ll play along with the pre-recorded version in the background - this has helped me a lot because it gets the timing basically spot-on, and you can tell during the take if anything is off, rather than finding out later. And finally, if I do discover a note I’ve played is out of time or ‘weak’, I can simply punch it in from the pre-recorded version I prepared before filming.
Over the last 5 years I’ve realised how naive I used to be about the whole thing, and how naive some people still are. At the end of the day, pro guitarists don’t have anything to prove. I’ve been plying 23 years avidly, I’ll play for the rest of my life and it’s my passion. BUT - I won’t be spending all day getting the exact take I did on the record for a few thousand views, it just isn’t worth the time. I like to drop a live audio vid here and there just to show I can actually play my tracks live, but we mustn’t forget that we are only human, and it’s ok to use technology to our advantage to save us time, and prevent us burning out. Music is supposed to be fun, and not a chore!
Additionally, some guys of course take it to extremes, but when it’s totally obvious, you won’t be the only one to notice!
Well said my man :)
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i did my takes one time only. Either you can play or you cant. Production cant touch a lack of practice. At the time i didnt hold the pick properly and didnt understand strict outside alternate picking. Ive revised my techniques and am still working. Given the plethora of guitarists most are so jaded to listen to professionals and not bat an eye. Whats important is self reference and what you think. Seven million youtube views doesnt equate with great music just group think.
So honest. I appreciate that.
As a viewer (and guitarist trying to improve) I'd love to know what content is edited as I'm consuming it. I wonder if content creators could simply add a text box to relevant video timestamps: "the audio you're hearing has been altered" and / or "the video you're watching was not recorded simultaneously with the audio you're hearing". In my opinion these labels would allow creators to increase content generation rates without being accused of "faking" results.
A good point, seeing other guitar players I would love to known as well. I have to say, at a certain point I quickly see when something is mimed or so (and much more people are doing it) but these kind of honesty could be really improving the guitar scene
Such a good, honest video. It doesn't matter how good you are (that isn't even an issue). Video production is a totally different beast to actually playing guitar. For instance, I only have one camera, so when I want to do a fancy playthrough with multiple camera angles (either switching between angles or displaying more than one on screen simultaneously), I have NO CHOICE but to mime.
This is totally different to people trying to pretend they're better than they are by faking their playing.
That‘s another good reason, I have the same case. My cams are fixed and I only have one to move around.
Thanks for this peek into your recording process. Some good tips for practicing and recording guitar.
Great as always !💚
I'm really happy you made this video, I am always seeking perfection in my takes and I literally never post because I compare myself too harshly. I work in video production and post so I know the tricks and know that sometimes it's best for the final product, but I hold myself back still lol.. thanks again and shred on, hope to run into you At or around NAMM in Jan..
Merry x-mas to yoi too, Justin!!
Klasse, dass du das einfach mal offen aussprichst. Ich mache es genauso und es sind immer wieder Typen dabei, die dann schreiben: „Das hast du nicht gespielt“. Echt zum verrückt werden. Klasse Idee es mal so klar zu sagen. Viele Grüße aus Köln, Joachim
This is an interesting topic. I used to post playthroughrs for a long time on both of my guitar channels, but around 2021 I started feeling very self-conscious about being a "fake" guitarist. My obsession with having perfect recordings grew and - long story short - I haven't posted anything since then. While I still don't fully agree with people miming to their pre-recorded guitar, I do understand that such is life of a content creator and you're in the constant churn. Hell, I'm autistic and I have ADHD, if I practice the same thing everyday for a month straight, I risk severe burnout that will stop me from playing guitar for months or years (like it did last time).
Not all of us can be Jack Gardiner, sit down in front of a camera and jam for 5 minutes, while still sounding awesome. Oh well.
Recently I incorporated something new into my practice routine and that seems to help tremendously. I've thought about it for a long time before and I always dreaded it. This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done with guitar, but it's really the most effective tool: I started practicing by recording. I don't practice licks, runs or ideas outside of recording anymore. If I record it a thousand times, I'll listen to every smallest detail a thousand times and I can actually focus on it and fix the small problems. This has improved my timefeel, dynamics, how tense my body gets when I play something. It's been life-changing, but so far I only did it for a few weeks, so who knows if I'll be able to keep it up ;)
Thanks for talking about this, I do think this is important to hear for many online guitarists, regardless of which side of the fence you end up. While I do wish all of us could post unedited videos, they'd likely get lost in the algorithm and then nobody could do it as a job.
I always set my OBS to record my DI signal along with video, even if I don't intend to use any real audio. It's good to have the option to drop in some live audio for the parts where its acceptable
Faking anything is just that; faking. But yeah, a lot of players on social media do it to various degrees. To me, the real and raw audio/video (just mic'd and EQ'd) is much better than a hodgepodge of best takes spliced into a supercut and synched up to a visual reenactment... which never looks right and just comes off as inauthentic. Some people do it better than others. I'd rather see/hear real playing, even with the mistakes. It tells you more about the player; it's more personal. Most people can't/won't put themselves out there like that though. It's scary!
my playing is raw on one take on my channel. Theres players better and worse than me. Thats reality.
respectable. for me its just about the music at this point and whether i enjoy whats going on. Fake videos used to bother me many years ago, but im so far past that i just couldnt care less now. I would rather see an amazing polished song or solo and I think its really up to the musician or creator to show the world how they want people to percieve their music
On my channel is my playing on one take raw recordings.
Since then ive learned to alternate outside pick. I had no idea what i was doing and yet i sound good.
I know my playing and it pleases me. Most people dont care about guitar anyway. Guitarists know if they are doing good. No need to fake it. Practice is what is needed
Great video, thank you, Justin.
I for one like to upload the raw audio of what I play. I never edit stuff I upload. I guess it's my way to rebel against the trend of super clean and perfect guitar recordings. The old school of guitarists didn't sound like guys nowadays, and both approaches are valid, but I guess it's just matter of taste.
I have no general problem with editing or miming. Miming is reasonable just because the video production aspect of it becomes a completely separate entity and as a creator you can focus more on multi-cam shots and the visuals in general. Having to do audio and video at the same time is rather stressful when you have to setup and keep track of everything on your own without any help.
I do think the trend right now is to over-edit guitar parts, though. I don't like that at all. When everything is quantized, even the whammy bar use, it's just wrong. I don't want to call anybody out by name but what I've seen recently is just terrible: A guy playing an alternate picking run and you could see just by watching his technique that the picking was totally inconsistent, yet the audio presented was perfectly clean and 100% quantized. That isn't just a lapse while miming. That's straight up faking guitar playing by presenting a technique that the guy wasn't even able to pull off on his very best day. Play keyboard with a square wave lead if you want that kind of artificial sound.
Imo it's just like movies and ADR use, there's more layers to that specific idea creatively but gotta do what you gotta do to make presentation great....you're making a video, it's not a recorded VOD or something
Great video! We all fix things here and there. It's nothing new. Pretty much every single MTV clip back in the day consisted of lip and finger syncing too! I mean, come on, do people really think that Slash is actually recording his epic solo live in the November Rain clip?
Happy Holidays and keep being awesome, dude!
Great take on that!
Very honest and interesting. I'm a Luddite, I can't fake it.
Hehe good for you in this case :D
Justin, firstly, no judgement, you are doing your thing, and it is up to you to do so in the most efficient way possible, while holding **your own** principles. You making this video is 100% the right call! And I will continue to follow without any hesitation. Thank you for being you and sharing!
That said, not all people do this, and I believe very very strongly that if you were to leave in your "human" mistakes, then you would garner even more viewers. My favorite active guitar player (so no dead ones like Jimi etc lol) is Brandon Ellis. He is fairly vocal against "miming", and even records his IG and YT takes with the room guitar strings intentionally mixed in. It sounds AWESOME.
That all said, I am a guitar purist, and I only play and record guitar live, and never mix in or edit notes in post. If I catch a producer doing that I'll make him stop it (but sometimes they just do it anyways which is annoying and sounds like shit every time).
The way I practice a solo for instance, is to make certain I can play it how I like, AT LEAST 50-75% of the time prior to recording it for "release" (whatever that means, publish to IG, record an album, etc). And then when I record the solo, it needs to be in one shot. I believe this is the only way to get the human sound. Listen to the first few bars of Jeff Beck's "Cause We've Ended as Lovers", and you can hear the fret buzz on one note, it's TERRIBLE! But it sounds great!
Edit: Yes I am aware many guitar players will record several takes and mash together the best parts, that's a somewhat separate issue, but it is VERY common and can be done nicely I admit.
This all motivates me to make my own channel and do only real live stuff, because it's my favorite style and I think not many do this, apparently. Cheers my dude, still love your vids!
Yeah, Brandon is a legit monster player. There are other ones, too, like Rick Graham. He also doesn't fake a thing. He'd rather just do another take or he lives with the smaller mistakes (like unwanted string noise or missing a harmonic) and still uploads the video. As a viewer/listener it creates a lot of sympathy for him.
@@CYBERDROiD9000 Sounds like I need to check out Rick Graham...!
Def. Worth to check out Rick Graham, he is a beast. But he rarely uploads something nowadays and to be honest, I believe this pressure that you can have while recording something is part of it. It can destroy all the fun.
And of course I know brendon, I even made a full video about him here on this channel :)
I think Rick has health problems for quite a while now and that's why he sadly isn't uploading a lot at the moment. Let's wish him the best. @@justin.hombach
@@justin.hombach Holy smokes! Rick is next level, that is amazing stuff. I am checking out your Brandon Ellis vid now. By the way, I've been listening to Eternity's End a lot lately, Arcturus Prime is my jam! Thanks Justin keep rocking man!
Recording performance live (video and audio in the same time) is just the best way to feel absolutely horrible.
Pros: maybe you will become better a tiny bit and maybe fellow musicians will approve your efforts if it matters.
Cons: it will take sooo much time and effort that you will feel absolutely exhausted, chances are you will just drop many ideas (I know I did) and will be heavily discouraged to record anything at all in the future. In the end you either say 'f*** it', record few takes and mix something from those takes, or you say 'f*** it' and put your guitar up for sale.
I'm all for 'live' stuff as long as it doesn't require 1000 takes and doesn't discourage people from recording. However, if we look at these records not like sportsmanship contests, but an actual music, then 'live' aspect doesn't really matter. Quality of the 'end product' matters. All the blood, sweat, endless takes etc are things that rarely get appreciated IMHO.
Lmao the Lucas Mann clip at 01:00, I remember how I believed he was actually playing that when I was way younger and inexperienced, crazy how blatantly obvious it is to me now lol
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Hey Justin, thanks for the video. I was wondering when it comes to actually recording an album, how much would you say the solos are edited/punched in? Just curious to know if it's really all that common for the top level players to nail solos in one take, or if what we are hearing is pieced together/edited?
It depends, when it is a guest solo where I know: „I probably will never play this live“, I tend to write something that would be much harder to reproduce and edit a bit more. But for example in my Bands like Erernitys End, I know I may have to play it live one day… of course there is still certain edit, that means maybe playing some more difficult runs individually etc.
But f.e. I once did a guest solo for the band Humankind (song: the end of everything), the whole production was extremely over produced (playing a chord, stop recording the next chord etc) really typical for a modern production… so I said by the solo: Fuck it! I‘m going to play this solo one take!! 😂
If a virtuoso musician can't play a 10 second clip without making mistakes, is he really a virtuoso?
I think it really depends, every Virtuoso has his weaknesses and strength. But I bet a „Virtuoso“ would not ask himself the question like you did. And to get something to a point „without a mistake“ it often only cost you one thing: Time! And sometimes you just don‘t have this time, especially in times like these (that was a lot of „times“) where you prepare for a big concert and get paid just for preparing and playing the big concert. Social Media made everything a bit differently.
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Personally I prefer a live recording with the mistakes left in. The odd mistake here or there is no big deal. However, it hits a point where there are maybe too many mistakes which says there are problems and a guitarists playing something harder than they can really manage.
Honesty is best. I think RUclips guitarists need to ditch the miming and just leave the mistakes.
It will also let the listeners know if the person they are watching is really someone they should be listening too and taking advice from.
maybe you could do a video or comment on how you would actually make those edits for people not well experienced in recording through DAWS? Like i cant imagine how you would go about fixing a single note in a fast run , wouldnt punching in be really hard to line it up since its so fast?
In a Single run I wouldn‘t fix an individual Note, maybe if it is the last one, I rather would play the whole run again so that‘s in flow. Of course when you put the grid of the daw on the subdivision of the run, you potentially could fix individual notes.
@@justin.hombach thank you Justin! this video has been among the most interesting youve uploaded
Actually everyone is doing this when they record their song in the studio, it's just a time saver. You can play some bad notes and correct it on the spot
Top of the Pops had most musicians miming to backing tracks for the best part of 40 years and most people were none the wiser. People listen with their eyes, fixing things in post has existed for as long as video editing has been around. Life is too short to spend time perfecting everything.
How bad guitarist I am explains the fact I cannot spot mistakes you've shown in mistake video.. :(
I must say on the other hand that I am executing some of your exercises and thank you, they are very effective :)
I totally agree to this one. I am not ashamed fixing harmonics or unwanted hits. I'm a small content creator and I do not exaggerate anything, and I don''t deceive. My time is extremely limited and I'm okay making it %95 and fix the rest. And now I have more time to practice, I can focus on the long run and create content for my friends and myself. Thanks for being real man. And I already saw you live, I know how good you are! Cheers
Wie fühlt sich das an, selbst Yngwie in Grund und Boden spielen zu können? :D
Keine Ahnung, weil ich glaube nicht, dass ich das kann 😂😂 Ich kann Vll Dinge die Yngwie nicht beherrscht… aber dieses Selbstbewusstsein, mein Gott, davon kann ich nur träumen ☺️
Ich wusste es immer 😂
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song name @2:00
That‘s something I wrote just to post as a reel… So it had no name so far, let me name this: „for Alwin“ 😂
@@justin.hombach 😅 damm!!!Make it a song!!!
In my opinion, fake is only when you try to deceive. If someone really can't play, but make it look like it, that's a problem. If it's done to save time and be more efficient, i totally get it. Guitar is frustrating. You can wake up one day and feel like a virtuoso and the next you feel like you need a hal Leonard book. Haha
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Props to you for making this video, it takes balls to admit. I'll be the odd man out here in the comments and just think out loud.
I can empathize with being a content creator (altough I'm not one myself) and that it's stressful to keep churning out stuff at a high pace, and high quality at that to keep things interesting. I find the faking problematic. it's sending signals that you are doing something that you're not, that you're doing stuff live when it is in fact not live. No doubt you CAN play and ARE playing these things you post in your videos, just not to the degree that it's being portrayed. Other content creators probably spot this right away since alot of them are doing the same thing.
6:55 "So what should I do"
It's interesting to me that this is such a black or white choice: Completely fake it with MIDI guitar OR fix mistakes by editing. There's obviously more options that arent even being considered, such as: Lower the tempo, simplify the idea, record the thing anyway but leave it in with eventual mistakes mistakes etc etc... There's many guitarists that post stuff their live audio recording: Mateus Asato, Tom Quayle, Nathaniel Murphy, Ian Waye, Bastian Martinez, Rick Graham (has even done totally impromptu video lessons with mistakes and all... has posted several instagram clips per day in the past), Rick Beato (even if he's not a virtuoso like the forementioned, he still doesnt edit his stuff like that, to my knowledge), Jack Gardiner who you interviewed recently... He did a solo for Dirty Loops, and you can tell the audio is from a live take. There's a few mistakes riddled in that clip, a botched note in a tapping section toward the end.. but he posted it anyway. There's others like the aforementioned... but again, there's also the content creators that edit their videos to try to get closer to the guitarists who are at the top.
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not really, I am glad you are human 🤖
That’s lame I like mistakes it’s more real
The real problem is, you are making yourself more important than what you really are 😂😂. Like a fantasy that anyone really cares that you cheat yourself 😂
I don’t really think he is, it’s just a video talking about modern guitar recording and he doesn’t claim he’s some master. I think it’s educational
@@gabimeredith1 I would think something educational wouldn't have a insult in it towards another guitar player . He knows what he did Lucas mann as a point in his video is just ridiculous
All guitar collab are prerecorded and its totally fake acting
You didn't want to take the extra 2 weeks to master it and do a true performance on camera so you faked it. Not a lot to be proud of there tbh.
Yeah, there's something about once you hit record, lol. There are so many times that i play a solo perfectly over and over but then hit record and it all goes out the window 😂