I understand that a (perhaps two) turret ring from an unknown RN battleship was recycled for use in the The Lovell Radio Telescope (Jodrell Bank). Perhaps you could tell us all about it? Or if you have already covered this in another video then sorry I missed it
I can't wait until you do french cruiser submarines, itll be 20 minutes of you trolling the french lol :P keep em coming man thanks we love what you do.
Q & A. A great deal of effort went into putting torpedo batteries on destroyers, cruisers, and capital ships for use in fleet battles. How many capital ships were actually torpedoed during engagements such surface ships?
The Revenge Class were built as a cheaper version of the QEs. What did this cost cutting allow the Royal Navy to get and if 10 QEs were built instead of 5 of each, do you think the increased investment would be worth it for the Royal Navy?
Are submarines part of your content, if yes, then can you please talk about the various designs for U-boat conning towers? Cause I don't seem to find their reasons why they chose that shape in particular
A published naval historian friend of mine said to me recently that the post-WWII narrative that battleships were “relegated to secondary roles” such as convoy escort and shore bombardment is a misunderstanding of naval strategy. Battleships were not built to destroy other battleships but to exercise sea control. Period. The R-Class were much, and in many cases justifiably maligned for design limitations, but the PMs and leaders of Canada, Australia, and New Zealand surely slept easier knowing they were shepherding large troop convoys through dangerous waters. On February 8th 1941, when the Ramillies, alone guarded 41 tankers and freighters loaded with essential materials bound for England, the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau refused to give battle because of her mere presence. This is a supreme example of sea control, a victory won without firing a shot. At D-Day, naval gunnery support has been well documented as absolutely essential to disrupting and destroying German counter attacks. Also, the R-Class were really quite strikingly handsome ships.
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. Sun Tzu When two modern capital ships just nope out because an 'outdated' battleship is standing there, that's an efficient use of a battleship.
@@nk_3332 They were modern in as much as they were built more recently but they only had 11" guns compared to Ramillies 15" guns. Plus she had much thicker armour. Also she was only 27 years old at that time. Which isn't bad for a battleship. Plus her various refits to bring her more up to date. No doubt both captains of the German ships realised that trying to defeat such a powerful ship would mean one or both of them would be sunk or damaged beyond repair and so decided discretion was the better part of valour.
Granted that the presence of Ramillies was instrumental in the protection of the convoy menaced by the German battlecruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, it is important to bear in mind that German Admiral Lutjen's orders expressly forbade him from attacking convoys escorted by battleships. This order was likely a result of the naval battle of Narvik, where Gneisenau was damaged by the British battlecruiser Renown's 15-inch guns. The numerically superior British fleet could easily afford to have one or two of its older capital ships damaged in battle. The Germans, of course, could not risk this. As was proven by the destruction of the Bismarck, the German navy could not win a war of attrition.
@@Makeyourselfbig Actually, Ramilies only had thicker deck armour, but not thicker armour overall. It was purely because of the 11inch guns that the Scharnhorst sisters didn't engage. If they had their 15inch guns as they were originally designed to have, they would have engaged Ramilies instead because they would've had the superior firepower.
No student of this, but the camouflage at 4:01 is very effective. Even pictured at point blank range, the phony "bow" is very convincing, and the stern is similarly treated. Would have made her look farther away than reality.
Didn't they have the K class submarine class in WWI, where it was discarded as a failure in part because of this? (The hilarity of its crush depth to length ratio being less than 0.7, coal boiler technology, lack of collapsible funnels, and (lack of) quality of dive plane control ALSO being more than enough to bring Doctor Professor Drach's lecture mode to the fore in explaining why the Royal Navy, like the Soviet Navy and the Chrysler Corporation, should have never built anything labeled the "K Class".)
Having lived in North London (specifically Totenham) I feel you should all be glad to know Ramillies gun is quietly trained on the local soccer pitch. The Russians haven't a chance! Great video! Also, proper football has 3 downs, not four.
She was named for the Battle of Ramilles, fought in May 1706 during the War of the Spanish Succession. The senior British commander there was the Duke of Marlborough. God I love history...
I am so appreciative of your efforts, Drach !! And that the rest of us benefit from it as a whole ? It's indeed a beautiful thing- everyone wins !! Thank God you'd found your life's calling, my friend. Keep on truckin', brother- God Save Drachinifel !!! 🚬😎
She was built in Clydebank. (There is a monument built outside the site of the yard where she built) You didn't mention that when she was duelling the German shore guns, her captain wore a warriors skirt that had been gifted to the ship. Or that she was considered old enough to be 'disposable' which is why she was often given dangerous jobs.
I love the improvement you've made with your audio. I used to have to turn down the volume for the opening "Kabooms" and then turn it back up to hear you talk. No longer.
A pleasure as always to listen to one of your presentations while sipping coffee on a Saturday morning. I seem to always come away having learned something that I hadn't known before. Ramillies seems to have had a reputation as a 'straight shooter,' it makes me wonder what might have happened if Scharnhorst and Gneisenau's lookouts hadn't spotted or recognized Ramillies in time to avoid action. I think that together they could have taken her down, but at the cost of at least one needing serious rebuilding or being lost entirely.
The two battle cruisers would've had the problem they always had against Royal Navy ships of BB/BC classes. To wit, they were undergunned, and to consistently score hits with 11" guns they would have to get well within the effective range of Ramillies's 15" guns. Given the Royal's heavier hitting power and thicker armor, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau would've been at a real disadvantage in a slugging match. Critical hits or nothing, mein kamerad! And given Scharnhorst's reputation as a jinxed ship, a couple of hits by "super-charged" shells would've been likely, with the result of the raiders scurrying away.
Indeed, it comes from early victims in conflicts like the 2nd Boer War where the basic system was used as a form of field artillery. You'd be having a nice time taking shots with your rifle when you'd suddenly find yourself surrounded by lots of little explosions followed quickly by a pom-pom-pom noise as the sound waves caught up with the shells. Basically it was the Mk19 grenade launcher of its day and equally horrifying.
My Uncle James (Jim, Dad's elder brother) served on Ramillies at one time before WWII broke out, he later was a Petty Officer on HMS Valentine (destroyer) that was sunk by Stuka bombing in the Scheltd Estuary in 1940 - his body was never found - it was just after I was born. Dad never got over his death.
And thank you sir for your video about one of the less glamorous, but still essential ships of the fleet (in much the same role as the American "Standard" class). She and her sisters did their jobs, and don't owe anyone any apologies.
This was an excellent video. Please consider doing videos of the other Revenge and Queen Elizabeth class battleships that you have not done a video yet. You do great work.
Personally I would love to hear Drach's take on the Revenge's unfortunate pair of collisions in Halifax harbor which made all the gate ships make fun of her whenever she came through
@@FandersonUfo For Battleships though: one of the Yamato twins was too eager, and her stern swamped the opposite bank to her slipway with a tidal wave 😆.
I was taken to the Imperial War Museum around 1970. The guns outside (and the German mini sub) were the things I remember. I never knew the guns were not from the same ship! It's good to re-learn stuff you thought you knew.
My wife's father served on HMS Tern a river gunboat hardly no anything about her only that she was scuttled during the invasion of Hong Kong in 1941. Wife's father fought on her and was captured. Any chance you could do a vid on these boats? So little known about them.
Fortunately my father escaped being assigned to the ship due to being hospitalised in Pompey Hospital during 1944 as he had also escaped being assigned to the Hood shortly before it’s trip to the Greenland Strait. He’d previously served aboard Nelson, Rodney, Malaya, the U.S.S.South Dakota, as signals with the Home Fleet, and the Valiant. He lost many friends and shipmates aboard the Naiad and Repulse.
Great video as always. My father was on Resolution at the outbreak of WW2. Just a note, I believe that it is one of Resolutions old guns that is mounted outside the IWM. It certainly used to be, according to the plaque.
Ok, just found out that Resolutions gun was fitted to the monitor you mention. It was then placed outside the IWM but it is stated as Resolutions on the plaque.
in ww2 my grandpa was a small lad from Australia, the only time he recalls seeing a battleship once, that being Ramillies. he told me about the grandeur of the ship.
I remember staring at so many pictures of this ship, trying to get the 1943-44 camouflage scheme right for a 1:2400 scale model. What didn't help was, that in the black and white photos, the RN light blue and light grey are often indistinguishable as were the dark blue and dark grey. Which necessitated even more staring. I think I did alright in the end though.
I wonder if there are any photos of all 5 of the QE class and all 5 of the Revenge class together. It would be a missed opportunity if nobody got a good photo of them in formation
The battle ensign that HMS Revenge flew at Jutland is in the Church at St Just Cornwall, With shell holes in it. I often wonder in those days we had a 1200 fleet navy, and what about now, please do not laugh ! Can numbers sink any lower ? no pun intended !
Sure would be nice if you did a few ocean going tugs. Spent some time one in the late seventies on a world War two tug while in the coast guard. Love your work
The R class are such the "Red Headed Step Child" of the WW1-Interwar-WW2 Battleship Fleet. You know it's not an auspicious class of ships when they are best known for having one of their number be the target of a daring U-Boat raid. With only two of the R class at the Battle of Jutland they weren't really known for their WW1 service. And then in the Interwar period they were sort of put to the side when the Queen Elizabeths were the WW1 era Battleships favored for upgrades. Once WW2 came around they were good for nothing but convoy escort and shore bombardment. And that brings us back to the Royal Oak being sunk at port at the beginning of the war; the most famous act of the class was sinking while moored at port.
Well, it fits that R-class were not impressive compared to others because they were not supposed to be anything but the economy battleships to cheaply provide a full squadron to the Line of Battle. The fact that the treaties would basically end the Line of Battle engagement by reducing battleship and battlecruiser numbers too low to allow them to function as originally conceived was not known when R-classes were launching. Thus, they seem unimpressive because they were never intended to be and by WW2, they were even less able to impress because of the lack of opportunity.
Convoy escort seems dull, but was so utterly important. The fact that Scharnhorst and Gneisenau stood down on seeing Ramilles speaks volumes to her vital importance in the war.
An interesting video on the battleship HMS Ramilies I read often here and there but I know relatively little. Just had a look on Wikipedia regarding this beautiful battleship to have a good idea. It is written that the ship was updated for coastal bombardment duties in 1944, could anyone help me with does it mean updating for coastal bombardment and what it consists with updating?
I can only add something i have learned from hearsay, namely that in 1944, Tirpitz and Prinz Eugen were similarly upgraded. Apparantly they just needed to measure the distance to a distinctive landmark and its bearing with their stereoscopic rangefinders and could then quickly calculate an "excellent" firing solution for shore bombardment. Hope this helps.
Given that, for the Allies, naval bombardment was chiefly indirect fire beyond visual line of sight, probably improved radio among other things for coordinating with spotter planes and shore parties.
In addition to the above mentioned, the balance of the main magazines was changes to carry more HE, and various defences like anti-missile systems were also installed on most ships specced for D-Day bombardment missions
Azur Lane really needs to do a "ships of D-Day" event. Arkansas, Texas, Ramillies and a destroyer or two, plus special skins for Nelson, Nevada, Warspite, and Erebus.
The 15” 42cal Mk 1 gun was probably the best main battery weapon to have been utilised on multiple vessels of the Royal Navy. My reference books on the subject are conspicuous by their absence (probably still in storage) BUT looking at data from R.A. Burt’s ‘The Last British Battleship’, for exactly the same type of guns as used for HMS Vanguard’s main battery, it states that dependent on the charge used, at +30 degrees maximum achievable range was between 33,000 to 36,500 yards. The latter figure equates to 20.73 statute miles or 33.37km. HMS Warspite achieved the furthest recorded gunnery hit on another moving vessel in July 1940 when it landed a direct 15” hit on the Italian battleship Guilio Cesare at around 26,000 yards/14.77 miles/23.77km. (Scharnhorst is reported to have hit HMS Glorious at a similar or possibly slightly greater range) Pretty damn good considering at sea level the horizon is only about 3.1 miles/5km away.
@@davidpope3943 Found the answer to my question as whether the super charge was ever used with 30 degree mount and the answer is no. "However, from a study of the records, it would appear that no ship ever fired a shot using Super Charges, although they were used by the coastal artillery at Dover. Super Charges were not issued to ships with 30 degree mountings as the increased barrel wear and mounting stress was not considered to be acceptable."
These ships were roughly the equivalent of the US Standard Colorados, yet they were already being removed from service even before the war in the Pacific was over. I'm not saying it was a bad decision, but the USN was still keeping the Arkansas and the two New York class battleships busy.
Now I want a full list of all known ship launch dates To see which lines up with everyone’s birthdays... The Sinking of USS Maine contributing to the start of the Spanish Civil war is the only one I could find for mine
You mean the Spanish-US-American war don't you, while the results of that conflict certainly didn't boost Spain's stability going forward, a incident more than a quarter of a century before should hardly count as contributing in any significant way to the start of that conflict
@@theokamis5865 Both yes and no to your point. The Maine incident has little in common with the treaty of Versailles and it's aftermath. First of: one started a war, the second ended it. The mentioned conflict also didn't include the same opposing sides as the initial one (Spain vs. another Spain/US vs. Spain), while WW2 involved largely the same players on the same sides, being mostly a revanchist war, while the Spanish civil war was not about retributive for the Maine incident.
HMS Ramillies: named for an indecisive battle against the French in 1705... hmmm, since this is a Revenge class I would have gone with "HMS Smite Thee". more in line with her origin.
Actually a decisive British and allied victory, with the French army routed in 4 hours, and followed by a string of allied victories that drove them from the most of the Spanish Netherlands. In context, actually a rather more decisive victory than the more famous Battle of Blenheim two years prior. In this context an entirely fitting name for an "R".
I was listening to a video from another channel on the Invasion of Tinian. It seemed to me that this invasion (and many in the Pacific) did not have the long term work that was done on an invasion like D-Day. I get that the UDTs were very active in mine and obstacle removal for D-Day. I hear little about such activities in other amphibious landings. I would have thought that obstacles and mines would be a really simple passive way of making landings much more difficult. This would allow active defenses to be more effective (I think). Was there just not that much offshore obstacle/minefield construction generally or were there more UDT heavy landings and we don't hear about it?
I guess we all have seen the film of the HMS Barham blowing up after being torpedoed. The comentary is that the after magazine is what blew up. But could it be possible that the explosion was caused by water entering the boilers? Was that a thing that could happen?
Pinned post for Q&A :)
I understand that a (perhaps two) turret ring from an unknown RN battleship was recycled for use in the The Lovell Radio Telescope (Jodrell Bank). Perhaps you could tell us all about it? Or if you have already covered this in another video then sorry I missed it
I can't wait until you do french cruiser submarines, itll be 20 minutes of you trolling the french lol :P keep em coming man thanks we love what you do.
Q & A. A great deal of effort went into putting torpedo batteries on destroyers, cruisers, and capital ships for use in fleet battles. How many capital ships were actually torpedoed during engagements such surface ships?
The Revenge Class were built as a cheaper version of the QEs. What did this cost cutting allow the Royal Navy to get and if 10 QEs were built instead of 5 of each, do you think the increased investment would be worth it for the Royal Navy?
Are submarines part of your content, if yes, then can you please talk about the various designs for U-boat conning towers?
Cause I don't seem to find their reasons why they chose that shape in particular
A published naval historian friend of mine said to me recently that the post-WWII narrative that battleships were “relegated to secondary roles” such as convoy escort and shore bombardment is a misunderstanding of naval strategy.
Battleships were not built to destroy other battleships but to exercise sea control. Period.
The R-Class were much, and in many cases justifiably maligned for design limitations, but the PMs and leaders of Canada, Australia, and New Zealand surely slept easier knowing they were shepherding large troop convoys through dangerous waters.
On February 8th 1941, when the Ramillies, alone guarded 41 tankers and freighters loaded with essential materials bound for England, the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau refused to give battle because of her mere presence. This is a supreme example of sea control, a victory won without firing a shot.
At D-Day, naval gunnery support has been well documented as absolutely essential to disrupting and destroying German counter attacks.
Also, the R-Class were really quite strikingly handsome ships.
For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.
Sun Tzu
When two modern capital ships just nope out because an 'outdated' battleship is standing there, that's an efficient use of a battleship.
@@nk_3332 Exactly.
@@nk_3332 They were modern in as much as they were built more recently but they only had 11" guns compared to Ramillies 15" guns. Plus she had much thicker armour. Also she was only 27 years old at that time. Which isn't bad for a battleship. Plus her various refits to bring her more up to date. No doubt both captains of the German ships realised that trying to defeat such a powerful ship would mean one or both of them would be sunk or damaged beyond repair and so decided discretion was the better part of valour.
Granted that the presence of Ramillies was instrumental in the protection of the convoy menaced by the German battlecruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, it is important to bear in mind that German Admiral Lutjen's orders expressly forbade him from attacking convoys escorted by battleships. This order was likely a result of the naval battle of Narvik, where Gneisenau was damaged by the British battlecruiser Renown's 15-inch guns. The numerically superior British fleet could easily afford to have one or two of its older capital ships damaged in battle. The Germans, of course, could not risk this. As was proven by the destruction of the Bismarck, the German navy could not win a war of attrition.
@@Makeyourselfbig Actually, Ramilies only had thicker deck armour, but not thicker armour overall. It was purely because of the 11inch guns that the Scharnhorst sisters didn't engage. If they had their 15inch guns as they were originally designed to have, they would have engaged Ramilies instead because they would've had the superior firepower.
Excellent video, as always. Those WW1 era battlewagons were sure beautiful ships. And now I know why the people of North London haven't risen up! 🤔
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I came here to say how gorgeous the Revenge class were. Instead I'm offering my support to your comment :-)
No student of this, but the camouflage at 4:01 is very effective. Even pictured at point blank range, the phony "bow" is very convincing, and the stern is similarly treated. Would have made her look farther away than reality.
@@amytaylor8487 Doing fine Thanks for asking .
@@amytaylor8487 bruh
That Slipway was awarded the Pour le Merite by the Kaiser himself.
Nein!
That comment seriously killed me, well done sir! 😅
@@michaelkovacic2608 👍😂😂
@@DaveSCameron Doch!!!
Heh. Good thing I don’t have dentures, they would have gone flying when I saw your comment!
One of the most aesthetically pleasing and underrated classes of battleships IMO
Very nice lines to her, the designers definitely got the look right.
I love it! “You must be at least THIS FAST to take part.” 🤣🤣🤣
Didn't they have the K class submarine class in WWI, where it was discarded as a failure in part because of this? (The hilarity of its crush depth to length ratio being less than 0.7, coal boiler technology, lack of collapsible funnels, and (lack of) quality of dive plane control ALSO being more than enough to bring Doctor Professor Drach's lecture mode to the fore in explaining why the Royal Navy, like the Soviet Navy and the Chrysler Corporation, should have never built anything labeled the "K Class".)
I'm so early that my Mk. 14 Torpedoes are missing ships completely and the BuOrd is refusing to return my calls
Typical BuOrd things in the first half, not gunna lie
BuOrd left you on "seen"
Enter: admiral Ernest J King.
Having lived in North London (specifically Totenham) I feel you should all be glad to know Ramillies gun is quietly trained on the local soccer pitch.
The Russians haven't a chance!
Great video! Also, proper football has 3 downs, not four.
Proper football is also a lot more boring than our bastard spawn of a sport.
Rugby is proper tackle ball
As an American, I can say...
We don't do "proper" well. Audacious, bawdy and uncivilized?
We've got that down.
@@johngregory4801 That's ok as a Canadian we wait until it gets cold and break out our hockey sticks.
@@leftcoaster67 With the exception of Toronto's inhabitants.
HMS Ramillies' ship's bell also survives, on display at HMCS Star in Hamilton Ontario, near HMCS Haida
Drach's intro music really hits different the 678th time 👌
What a fine looking ship. The bow is positively menacing and her Dazzle just completes her.
After the two upgrades, she was quite a good looking ship.
That masssive connign tower and the two forward turrets make her look massive and powerful.
I love her name, says alot to rugged design as to she was a "retro platform " for second great conflict- Cheers
She was named for the Battle of Ramilles, fought in May 1706 during the War of the Spanish Succession. The senior British commander there was the Duke of Marlborough.
God I love history...
I can now confirm that while Drach with breakfast at home is still and always the best, Drach in the break room at work is still worth it.
Prince Philip served aboard her during her Indian ocean and Mediterranean operations.
I like the her looks - especially the funnel cap - very balanced design
Still my favorite British battleship name behind Warspite
Second for me will alway be Repulse (RIP)
I still think Iron Duke is an excellent name for a big gun steel warship, also has a aimbot
HMS Revenge - look up the history of the name en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_ship_Revenge_(1577)
For me it's a toss up between Warspite and Rodney
Ramillies 🤝Formidable
causing problems during launch
I volunteer to check whether they can slide off my slipway. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I am so appreciative of your efforts, Drach !! And that the rest of us benefit from it as a whole ? It's indeed a beautiful thing- everyone wins !! Thank God you'd found your life's calling, my friend. Keep on truckin', brother- God Save Drachinifel !!!
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She was built in Clydebank. (There is a monument built outside the site of the yard where she built) You didn't mention that when she was duelling the German shore guns, her captain wore a warriors skirt that had been gifted to the ship. Or that she was considered old enough to be 'disposable' which is why she was often given dangerous jobs.
Thank you! My Dad served on this great ship, and I now know more about this battleship than I ever did before. 👍😎
I have been looking forward to this one for a long time, splendid stuff as always
Me too.
Me three.
Me four!
Excellent! I saw her gun when I was visiting London - now I know where it came from! Lol - ty for your vids, Drachinifel
I love the improvement you've made with your audio. I used to have to turn down the volume for the opening "Kabooms" and then turn it back up to hear you talk. No longer.
A pleasure as always to listen to one of your presentations while sipping coffee on a Saturday morning. I seem to always come away having learned something that I hadn't known before.
Ramillies seems to have had a reputation as a 'straight shooter,' it makes me wonder what might have happened if Scharnhorst and Gneisenau's lookouts hadn't spotted or recognized Ramillies in time to avoid action. I think that together they could have taken her down, but at the cost of at least one needing serious rebuilding or being lost entirely.
The two battle cruisers would've had the problem they always had against Royal Navy ships of BB/BC classes. To wit, they were undergunned, and to consistently score hits with 11" guns they would have to get well within the effective range of Ramillies's 15" guns. Given the Royal's heavier hitting power and thicker armor, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau would've been at a real disadvantage in a slugging match. Critical hits or nothing, mein kamerad! And given Scharnhorst's reputation as a jinxed ship, a couple of hits by "super-charged" shells would've been likely, with the result of the raiders scurrying away.
@@observationsfromthebunker9639 I came to say something similar.
Liked the initial picture with Traveller style peeps in the foreground and a little man with a top hat mid ground. Very Steam punk.
Your enthusiasm always lightens the tone of your videos!
Great work Drach! 😎
I bet that super charged 15 inch gun was to be respected if you found it pointing at your ship.
Saturday Lunchtime viewing sorted.
Thanks Drac.
The Rs get a bit overlooked in comparison to their legendary sisters the QEs, but they were absolutely gorgeous and very capable ships. Love 'em.
Thank you for covering this ship .
A suggestion. The CSS Florida. Blockade runner.
This Battleship killed a high ranking SS general in Normandy during a barrage I believe.
Early crew reporting in
Epic as always. Could you please do the Powerful class cruisers eventually? Pretty please.
Another nice ship biographey. Much appreciated.
Her turrets just sitting there... *menacingly*!
I never realized the name pompom was derived from the noise it made when firing. (most models had a designation like QF4 or QF2 for quick firing).
It still had the QF designation I believe
Indeed, it comes from early victims in conflicts like the 2nd Boer War where the basic system was used as a form of field artillery. You'd be having a nice time taking shots with your rifle when you'd suddenly find yourself surrounded by lots of little explosions followed quickly by a pom-pom-pom noise as the sound waves caught up with the shells. Basically it was the Mk19 grenade launcher of its day and equally horrifying.
There's a sculpture of Ramillies in Clydebank at the site of Beardmore's shipyard where she was built.
My Uncle James (Jim, Dad's elder brother) served on Ramillies at one time before WWII broke out, he later was a Petty Officer on HMS Valentine (destroyer) that was sunk by Stuka bombing in the Scheltd Estuary in 1940 - his body was never found - it was just after I was born. Dad never got over his death.
Thank you, Drachinifel.
Seen those guns many times - they are huge.
And thank you sir for your video about one of the less glamorous, but still essential ships of the fleet (in much the same role as the American "Standard" class). She and her sisters did their jobs, and don't owe anyone any apologies.
This was an excellent video. Please consider doing videos of the other Revenge and Queen Elizabeth class battleships that you have not done a video yet. You do great work.
Personally I would love to hear Drach's take on the Revenge's unfortunate pair of collisions in Halifax harbor which made all the gate ships make fun of her whenever she came through
Any episode on HMS Royal Oak would be shorter than others.
One of my absolute favorite names for a Royal Navy ship. Rolls right off the tongue.
Ramilles was reluctant at launch
... while HMS Formidable was too eager 😉.
@@TSR1989FF - an Impatient CV perhaps
@@FandersonUfo For Battleships though: one of the Yamato twins was too eager, and her stern swamped the opposite bank to her slipway with a tidal wave 😆.
@@TSR1989FF - Musashi was almost too big for Nagasaki harbour
@@FandersonUfo That too 🤔
I came across HMS Ramillies a few times when reading a book about the war against Vichy France, the Madagascar campaign in particular.
Saw this in my feed, set down my coffee, and was excited for another dreadnought video. Please do more of these, the old battleships are amazing
I was taken to the Imperial War Museum around 1970. The guns outside (and the German mini sub) were the things I remember. I never knew the guns were not from the same ship! It's good to re-learn stuff you thought you knew.
There's also a 14 inch gun from a KGV class battleship outside the Royal Arsenals collection at Fort Nelson near Portsmouth.
My wife's father served on HMS Tern a river gunboat hardly no anything about her only that she was scuttled during the invasion of Hong Kong in 1941. Wife's father fought on her and was captured.
Any chance you could do a vid on these boats? So little known about them.
Hell im so early warspite is still circling the high sea fleet daring them to even try to sink her.
Fortunately my father escaped being assigned to the ship due to being hospitalised in Pompey Hospital during 1944 as he had also escaped being assigned to the Hood shortly before it’s trip to the Greenland Strait. He’d previously served aboard Nelson, Rodney, Malaya, the U.S.S.South Dakota, as signals with the Home Fleet, and the Valiant. He lost many friends and shipmates aboard the Naiad and Repulse.
Great video as always. My father was on Resolution at the outbreak of WW2. Just a note, I believe that it is one of Resolutions old guns that is mounted outside the IWM. It certainly used to be, according to the plaque.
Ok, just found out that Resolutions gun was fitted to the monitor you mention. It was then placed outside the IWM but it is stated as Resolutions on the plaque.
Morning Captain.
About to walk out the door and then this comes on.... be a minute.
Beautiful ships the "R" class, when will we ever have a 1/700 scale model in plastic !?
Good service career overall. Like many of her USN counterparts, just never in the starring role.
in ww2 my grandpa was a small lad from Australia, the only time he recalls seeing a battleship once, that being Ramillies. he told me about the grandeur of the ship.
Two of the R class ships participated in Operation Fish in October 1939.
I remember staring at so many pictures of this ship, trying to get the 1943-44 camouflage scheme right for a 1:2400 scale model. What didn't help was, that in the black and white photos, the RN light blue and light grey are often indistinguishable as were the dark blue and dark grey. Which necessitated even more staring. I think I did alright in the end though.
Hello there👋👋,how are you doing today?hope you’re having a good start?God bless you!💕
Thanks for reviewing the history.
It was enjoyable!
I was hoping for a Star Fortress ... but this is fine!
Thank you drach 👌👍
Great video.
A really beautiful warship.
I wonder if there are any photos of all 5 of the QE class and all 5 of the Revenge class together. It would be a missed opportunity if nobody got a good photo of them in formation
The battle ensign that HMS Revenge flew at Jutland is in the Church at St Just Cornwall, With shell holes in it. I often wonder in those days we had a 1200 fleet navy, and what about now, please do not laugh ! Can numbers sink any lower ? no pun intended !
one of the most aesthetically beautiful ships of the British navy.
Dang it Drach, now I want to build a model of this ship, painted in the dazzle camo.
Beautiful ship.
Sure would be nice if you did a few ocean going tugs. Spent some time one in the late seventies on a world War two tug while in the coast guard. Love your work
Mille needs a full episode for sure to flesh out all her adventures.
HMS “Floating Menacingly”
The R class are such the "Red Headed Step Child" of the WW1-Interwar-WW2 Battleship Fleet. You know it's not an auspicious class of ships when they are best known for having one of their number be the target of a daring U-Boat raid.
With only two of the R class at the Battle of Jutland they weren't really known for their WW1 service. And then in the Interwar period they were sort of put to the side when the Queen Elizabeths were the WW1 era Battleships favored for upgrades. Once WW2 came around they were good for nothing but convoy escort and shore bombardment. And that brings us back to the Royal Oak being sunk at port at the beginning of the war; the most famous act of the class was sinking while moored at port.
Well, it fits that R-class were not impressive compared to others because they were not supposed to be anything but the economy battleships to cheaply provide a full squadron to the Line of Battle. The fact that the treaties would basically end the Line of Battle engagement by reducing battleship and battlecruiser numbers too low to allow them to function as originally conceived was not known when R-classes were launching. Thus, they seem unimpressive because they were never intended to be and by WW2, they were even less able to impress because of the lack of opportunity.
And regrettably, Royal Oak had received the most modernisation of all of her sisters.
Convoy escort seems dull, but was so utterly important. The fact that Scharnhorst and Gneisenau stood down on seeing Ramilles speaks volumes to her vital importance in the war.
Fun Fact:
Standard heavy space stations in warhammer 40k are called Ramillies starforts.
There are some really effective camoflage schemes on that ship
Interesting ship history. Possibly more interesting than some more famous ships.
An interesting video on the battleship HMS Ramilies I read often here and there but I know relatively little. Just had a look on Wikipedia regarding this beautiful battleship to have a good idea. It is written that the ship was updated for coastal bombardment duties in 1944, could anyone help me with does it mean updating for coastal bombardment and what it consists with updating?
I can only add something i have learned from hearsay, namely that in 1944, Tirpitz and Prinz Eugen were similarly upgraded. Apparantly they just needed to measure the distance to a distinctive landmark and its bearing with their stereoscopic rangefinders and could then quickly calculate an "excellent" firing solution for shore bombardment. Hope this helps.
Given that, for the Allies, naval bombardment was chiefly indirect fire beyond visual line of sight, probably improved radio among other things for coordinating with spotter planes and shore parties.
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In addition to the above mentioned, the balance of the main magazines was changes to carry more HE, and various defences like anti-missile systems were also installed on most ships specced for D-Day bombardment missions
Nice commentary at the end
Love the camo pattern on the last picture, Can you tell me what colours they were ?
Azur Lane really needs to do a "ships of D-Day" event. Arkansas, Texas, Ramillies and a destroyer or two, plus special skins for Nelson, Nevada, Warspite, and Erebus.
2:36 crew on foremast got roasted
Excellent video. Such a shame that not a single British Battleship was preserved. They are all very striking ships.
HMS Ramillies was the Flagship of the invasion of Madagascar
Commanded by
Robert Sturges and 3 Commando during the invasion of Madagascar.
Thanks!
OK, the inevitable question arises. Could the 30 degree mounts as on Queen Elizabeth also fire supercharges and if they could, to what range
The 15” 42cal Mk 1 gun was probably the best main battery weapon to have been utilised on multiple vessels of the Royal Navy. My reference books on the subject are conspicuous by their absence (probably still in storage) BUT looking at data from R.A. Burt’s ‘The Last British Battleship’, for exactly the same type of guns as used for HMS Vanguard’s main battery, it states that dependent on the charge used, at +30 degrees maximum achievable range was between 33,000 to 36,500 yards.
The latter figure equates to 20.73 statute miles or 33.37km.
HMS Warspite achieved the furthest recorded gunnery hit on another moving vessel in July 1940 when it landed a direct 15” hit on the Italian battleship Guilio Cesare at around 26,000 yards/14.77 miles/23.77km. (Scharnhorst is reported to have hit HMS Glorious at a similar or possibly slightly greater range)
Pretty damn good considering at sea level the horizon is only about 3.1 miles/5km away.
@@davidpope3943 Found the answer to my question as whether the super charge was ever used with 30 degree mount and the answer is no. "However, from a study of the records, it would appear that no ship ever fired a shot using Super Charges, although they were used by the coastal artillery at Dover. Super Charges were not issued to ships with 30 degree mountings as the increased barrel wear and mounting stress was not considered to be acceptable."
The best battleship name imo
These ships were roughly the equivalent of the US Standard Colorados, yet they were already being removed from service even before the war in the Pacific was over. I'm not saying it was a bad decision, but the USN was still keeping the Arkansas and the two New York class battleships busy.
Now I want a full list of all known ship launch dates
To see which lines up with everyone’s birthdays...
The Sinking of USS Maine contributing to the start of the Spanish Civil war is the only one I could find for mine
Surely the Maine Blowing up was the start of the Spainish/USA War
You mean the Spanish-US-American war don't you, while the results of that conflict certainly didn't boost Spain's stability going forward, a incident more than a quarter of a century before should hardly count as contributing in any significant way to the start of that conflict
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@@theokamis5865 Both yes and no to your point. The Maine incident has little in common with the treaty of Versailles and it's aftermath. First of: one started a war, the second ended it. The mentioned conflict also didn't include the same opposing sides as the initial one (Spain vs. another Spain/US vs. Spain), while WW2 involved largely the same players on the same sides, being mostly a revanchist war, while the Spanish civil war was not about retributive for the Maine incident.
HMS Roberts Monitor, i just know she was involved in shore targeting on D-Day
That was the source of the other 15 inch gun at the Imperial War Museum
Are you gonna make a review about the konig class?
HMS Ramillies: named for an indecisive battle against the French in 1705... hmmm, since this is a Revenge class I would have gone with "HMS Smite Thee". more in line with her origin.
Actually a decisive British and allied victory, with the French army routed in 4 hours, and followed by a string of allied victories that drove them from the most of the Spanish Netherlands. In context, actually a rather more decisive victory than the more famous Battle of Blenheim two years prior. In this context an entirely fitting name for an "R".
I was listening to a video from another channel on the Invasion of Tinian. It seemed to me that this invasion (and many in the Pacific) did not have the long term work that was done on an invasion like D-Day. I get that the UDTs were very active in mine and obstacle removal for D-Day. I hear little about such activities in other amphibious landings. I would have thought that obstacles and mines would be a really simple passive way of making landings much more difficult. This would allow active defenses to be more effective (I think). Was there just not that much offshore obstacle/minefield construction generally or were there more UDT heavy landings and we don't hear about it?
Quite a service career!
Now waiting for a drydock question about how far the 15 inch gun can fire and which house is in trouble.
I can't wait for her azur lane appearance. She can bombard my shore any day!
I guess we all have seen the film of the HMS Barham blowing up after being torpedoed. The comentary is that the after magazine is what blew up. But could it be possible that the explosion was caused by water entering the boilers? Was that a thing that could happen?
Boilers are not near the magazines.
A boiler explosion would be much smaller. There is dark smoke and enormous flames, evidence of explosives and not just superheated water.
One the best names for a capital ship in my opinion...
great video