Trialling on Farm Bosses
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- One of the most fearsome challenges many players face is joining in on a new guilds farm raid but for you, it's a brand new experience. So let's look at how I tackle that challenge.
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Oh, Mike. We all know you only made this whole video because your guild was memeing you for clicking that lock gate and you wanted to show your side of the story.
The gate hacked his mouse.
I didn't, I don't watch gaming streams, cause paint drying is more fun and wouldn't miss it for twitch beggers/thots XD
Here, I thought it was as simple as doing as told, follow the guide. Assuming not WF race, just us mortal mid tier trash.
Your clarification is appreciated.
@@ElPincheDruk of course, there's some really solid info in this video. He always makes real informative and helpful content.
But I'm also quite certain that if anyone in his guild noticed him randomly clicking a lock portal (and I bet they did, players at that level catch a lot more stuff than you'd think and there were 19 other pairs of eyes to notice), the jokes would have started flying.
"What you doing over there, mike? Having a piss?"
"Feel free to join us anytime you like, Mike "
"No, guys, the lock gate hacked my mouse, I swear. Look, I'll show you"
When I did some raid leading, there were several high dps I turned down because they didn't show any initiative to deal with mechanics. Taking lower dps that sacrificed damage to run into nowhere to soak shit helped progression waaaaay more.
Hey man just wanted to say your videos really made me feel better...about nearly scuffing a trial for the first time ever in my wow career.
jumped in to heal for my first time in raid since 2007 on *mythic conclave*. I legit had the mindset that I was untouchable and "better" for being an OG raider. I was shit, and got a shit reception. You helped me deal with this confusing and stressful situation :3
Well you should have used Flap and not disengage.
Everyone knows Flap is one of druid's best abilities.
truth
This was such a great video, Preach. The step by step insights were so valuable to people that are trying to improve their play!
Not gonna lie, I watch this video from time to time because it genuinely helped me to get better at handling stressful raiding/m+ situations. My thought pattern changed from "OH MY GOD WHAT DO I DO NOW OH FCK I'M DEAD AGH" to "So this is happening. I am very aware of my low hp and the horrible position I'm in if I don't do something right now." That "I am very aware of the situation" just helped me learn to stay calm in combat and I honestly really appreciate that ☆
So many awkward camera moments on mecha, one of the things I dislike the most about this game is playing the camera mini-game
Yes amen and then they make Tol dagor and waycrest manor. ^^
that and in messy fights like this with all sorts of things going on at the same time, needlessly seeing all sorts of extra crap like friendly spell graphics etc, layering crap on layers of crap thats layered on crap. sometimes cant see if bosses are casting something, which direction they are facing, subtle environmental mechanic graphics etc
Imagine WoW VR
Tol Dagor 3rd boss is the fucking worst for that. Yes Bliz, I would love to not be able to see a room properly with bombs exploding and shit. Cheers, well designed area.
Glad someone else noticed. Or you LoS behind the thing, but you can't see Mekka is shooting the blast directly at you. I actually died once because of that.
I joined my current guild on cenarius in legion. This was also my first mythic experience. I was supposed to go with them to a heroic raid before, but that didn't happen for some reason I can't remember any more. So my first mythic experience was the hardest boss of the tier with a guild I had never played with before. Lovely circumstances.
I was terrified that any mistake would mean a swift end to my trial. It went ok. I did alright personally, but as expected was absolutely terrible at handling the vines mechanic. Looking back, the guys were reasonable of course, and wouldn't have kicked me even if it went badly. Nobody expects everything to go perfectly first time, especially on the first mythic experience. Doesn't stop this from being really nerve-wrecking.
Haven't played wow in 10 yrs. Still loving the videos.
Thanks for this. I was trialing for my first time tonight and I've never really been through a serious trial process before. This helped calm my nerves a lot since I was brought into their farm night on a lot of bosses I haven't even seen before.
Why wouldn’t a raid leader quickly go over the strat for someone they know hasn’t done the fight? It takes a bit of time but so do wipes
Time basically, you want to down the most bosses, if each save/day you have a trail then it's about 2 minutes on each boss that you have to explain the mechanic, that translates into at least 1 less kill. And if you take at a certain level that time could be for farming or m+ if you finish early.
Because you wanna sort out the lazy pos who shows up to a boss without having put any effort into researching what's actually going on. It's not that hard to read a random wowhead guide and go through a log replay.
@@MrOPD you can clear raids with just watching a vid and not talk to the raid lead? WoW in 2020 man, WoW in 2020 xDDDDD
I trialed on heroic night, then got to move on to alternate, then people left, guess who's on the main roster now! lol
every single thing you said resonated with me so much damn, expecially the finding your own spot, thats soooo huge its crazy. one month ago i was wipeing in heroic and due to an extreme ammount of luck and hard work i managed to get into a guild and i am now 7/9 and in the progress roster. and all what you said its EXACTLY what happened to me.
Great video, very informative. I would say that your guilds Druid class officer should have given you the quick and dirty about the fight as a whole, but it's been so long since I raided I don't even know if class officers are a thing now, lol.
As a trial people will only remember what mechanics you messed up, not where you end on damage. How alive were you is really all I remember
it's easy to stay alive if you're doing 39k dps. Staying alive is the bare minimum, if you're joining a potential famed guild then you absolutely must do high dmg.
@@Sammysapphira increasing dmg on future kills is easy. Fixing dumb mistakes and mentality isn't. Sure you can't do garbage dps but topping meters isn't necessary.
This video is so relatable, even though I was in most of my guild's kills when you come to a boss that you haven't been in for some reason you have to catch so many different things at once and basically catch up with everyone who's had potentially hundreds of pulls more than you.
I was having trouble sleeping. I turned on this video and went right to sleep.
This was actually great. Reminded me of tuning in to watch Day9 do SC2 analysis.
1 rouge in raid, immediately drops off meter :feelsbadman:
And I know there's more to it blah blah blah, but as someone who doesn't even have an active sub atm, I still hope to see my blushy brothers kicking ass :(
Andrew Wilson we are 🤟🏻
One of my everlasting memories will forever be welcoming a former guildie after 2 years of not playing wow while progressing ICC 25 hc, when he asked what we needed him to do, standing in front of marrowgar the other RL that knew him from vanilla replied "zerg stuff, do damage", the guy then proceeded to never die and cleared everything up to sindragosa without a clue about the fights, yet performed better than most other damage dealers xD
Granted, raiding was different, but i still find it amusing^^
I like the highlight of the trial process here. I have gone though this before and thank you for helping people see what goes down in this process :D
34:00 you get hit by the sheep explosion fire thingy not the boss ability ! he would have one shot you with the landing :D
I may be wrong about this but i think the "bait" is just for the player targeted with wormhole generator(teleports whole raid to target) then blast off(boss leap) goes onto a random player which will be where the wormhole target is since the whole raid will be on them now. Which is then immediately followed by a buster cannon. So you only bait the blast off if you get targeted with wormhole, but everyone needs to then dodge buster cannon.
On finding your spot:
Just ask during trash about it. Usually at least one guy with experience will know a spot for you close to him.
This video really puts into perspective how hard this fight actually is. So much personal responsibility and so many small things that can go wrong and wipe you
any chance we will get an updated noobie account series since your main account is banned?
Yea, i hate camera angles on that fight. Few times I had to use my ice block since i wasn't 100% sure which way cannon was shooting, since it was blocked by a leaf.
"Like 2 people maybe." You hit like 5 people XD Also the people before you fucked up since there's 2 spaces next to the wall that you spotted as well in the end where they should place it. That way it's a lot safer during the intermission to place your debuffs since you can stand against the rock.
The disengage into catform near the end seemed to have worked out without you taking damage from the Crash Down, even if it was very close. Crash Down deals so much damage that it's pretty a one-shot without a strong defensive cooldown.
he soaked two of the flame thingies midair (look at the debuff icon above his character frame), thats why he dropped so hard. he did dodge the crash down successfully
one of my trials was mid-progress mythic mannoroth and archimonde. it's much different trialing in progress than cleared content.
if it was like that for most trials then there would probably be a lot more confident players because they can see that other people aren't always performing 100% perfect against bosses. however that being said it is somewhat needed for guilds to trial on farm bosses for various reasons.
how you react to an environment such as the guild itself, the fights, the comp, and if you've done it or not already on those characters can tell a lot of a player and their skill/aim.
You guys don't have written strategy on a discord or a forum for trials?
We have our officiers discuss strategy and everything is written down after, trials can just read all of that before coming into the raid, helps them a lot.
Reading in 2k19 LUL
They were most likely in a farm mode mentality and they just forgot he hadnt done the fight yet. Also he wasnt trialing, just using this instance as an example.
15:15 The wormhole generator ability sheeps one person who needs to be dispelled, and knocks another person high into the air who needs to either use something to negate fall damage, or get gripped.
reminds me of a livegig as guitarist. no rehears, songs i've never played or heard before. it was a hell of a reading session, survived it thou.
my advice: trust yourself and the team, dont panic and try to free up
braincapacity for observation.
"there are a lot of things we have bait in the past"
-preach
Punished Preach: A Fallen Legend
A top-down camera angle would be great in phase 2 if it weren't for the fact that the flames are paper thin, you can barely see them at that angle
Disenage going up cancels going up btw ;) Thats why you always disenage after TP :)
"I definitely hit somebody" ... you hit 5 somebodies, Mike. Five.
xD
A Leader gives information and direction, a leader spots the weakest link and fixes it (trial in this case gets info about fight etc)
A person with superiority complex along with the psychopath gene takes the title "Leader" without ever being one.
yeah it's like this in all mmo's whenever we have to pug someone in ffxiv we're like that's your spot you do that mechanic and maybe some additional info like we rotate clockwise or counterclockwise for this mechanic... What keeps amazing me tho is that for one fight, that is usually the same for all groups there can easily be five plus different strategies that all work great (some are safer, some give more dps up time etc).
When i did trial on Maiden in ToS i used my Leap of Faith to grip raidleader up from the big hole! Such a strong play. Except we had different affinity so it wiped us :)
Just joined a new guild who had a bunch of post outs one night. Got pulled into Stormwall Blockade when I originally wasn't even going to see progression until maybe Crucible. Killed the boss, trial passed.
I haven't trialed in raids since BC-Cata, and Cata taught me I no longer have the reflexes to not die to "stupid", and raid mechanics are insane BONKERS now compared to then. I was able to play Ret and Enh as hybrids back then, deal decent dps, and save people's asses without using specific addons barring DBM.
Watching modern raid vids gives me a migraine. I have no idea htf peeps do it.
"Running around always costs you DPS" BM hunter m8 c'mon
here's a scenario for you:
my old guild fell apart over christmas after years due to roster problems and our inability to clear mythic due to a huge skill gap between best and worst in the guild due to needing people to fill spots, so as raid leader and officer of this former guild i look for a new guild, i join a guild on the same realm as me with raid days that suit my work schedule, i told them that i was main tank i had maybe swapped to a dps spec a handful of times only throughout all of uldir, so all my gear was set up for tanking and my dps gear was pretty terrible, they understood and still took me on a dps trial.
here's the problem: they were comparing me to another dps of the same class/spec from their roster who was fully decked out with bis azerite traits, with a perfect set of dps trinkets (something i didn't have at all), so after 2 weeks of raids i was 'sat' 4 raids out of 6 total (so only got invited to 2 raids), obviously while i was under geared compared to some of them, and had no dps traits due to being main tank and having no dps trinkets, so following 3 weeks i get invited to only around a third of all raids on the calendar, some of those raids i had to tank so not even performing the role i was recruited for, and after voicing my opinion i found out that due to being vocal about bad decisions (former raid leader self taking over) and the leadership didn't like that so i was 'failed' my trial because i wasn't anywhere close to the other guy with the significantly better gear setup compared to me, and i was too negative for the team when voicing my opinion.
these guilds are all over the place on alliance side due to having too few good places to go as i have personally found out myself through needing to find a new guild for the first time in like 8/9 years.
Sounds like a guild you wouldnt want to join anyways. Pretty dumb though.
You can flap or you can travel form -> wild charge leap to safety. Druid isn't one of the classes that needs a grip ever.
Damn this is literally me right now. Going from Heroic to Mythic in a 6/9M guild. Seems to be going well so far, thanks for the thoughts Preach!
you made those mistakes on purpose to show off how ELITIST you are, jk love you mike, the herald of the ban
He died for our sins.
@@Terrabreak133 for our sims
Well guilds should bring trials and new player for training and designate specific time for that activity if they want a long term member. Guild leaders should encourage players to learn from their mistake and know how receive criticism. It takes time not just to learn, but to practice your actions as well in-game. Patience.
great vid dude the choppy footage hurt my eyes tho
For the fall - flap --- disengge. :)
Hey Mike, thanks for a cool video. Wondering how you get the role icons on your raid frames?
great vid #FreePreach
He deserved his ban.
Thanks for the pointers! Massive help!
the sheep fire clipped your disengage at the same time you pressed it, which knocks you back, so it interrupted your disengage not the boss
mr ashton himself
Was watching how to make a madras curry then this popped up. Worth!
how do you make one?
I'm on vacation for 3 raid nights. Guild killed rastakan the first night I was gone and are working on mecha next week. It's going to be interesting to come back into mecha or stormwall prog having never pulled it.
Don’t worry, around 100+ pulls on Mekkaboi is the ballpark number before you get a kill. So you’ll probably come back to wiping on phase 3.
@@Enucentro Yea I heard mecha is the real first wall of the raid. We have had no issues with any other bosses yet (Just a bunch of vacations that slowed prog)
Stupid question, but does running around as a melee cost you dps? I've always wondered if it makes a difference, though I always figured it doesn't as long as you are in range of the boss.
No, it does not. The downside however is that strafing like a lunatic usually can fuck over other melee dps on certain bosses (Fetid Mythic for example). And if you have that A/D spam ingrained into your muscle memory it can be hard to unlearn it.
@@EliteRocketBear that's what I thought. I do spam A and D, though, if the fight permits it. I get bored otherwise.
I never started that lunatic runBouts - and it bugs me when someone does it...
It causes more issues than not.
If you get bored when you fight you should try a different specc or class or even game...
ADHD is a thing yes - but unless you actually suffer from this, then you are just being silly with the way you think.
A bad habbit can be trained away, but if you excuse it with something like "being bored"; you need to reevaluate how you think and how you resolve things.
@@Catjamfan or, alternatively, you could mind your own business. My fiddling has never caused issues during raids because I know what I'm doing.
What's so wrong with asking for clarity on the roots or an explanation of the markers? And why you ths RL assume you knew their strategy if it was your first raid with them? Whatever questions you had could have been answered in 30 seconds; Which is better than causing a wipe of you messed up.
Yes, I agree. There is something weird about being knocked up.
The talk at the end about how the guild cant give you an essay about the entire fight isnt just about that being viable timewise.
There is just no way a normal human is going to remember an entire list of stuff thats being rattled start to finish
and apply it in any meaningful way.
I had this on Horridon way back. Went into a "raid group" together with a friend.
We stand in the arena and the raidleader rattled down every ability of every mob for every gate and how to handle each of the 5 phases over a span of 10 minutes.
I didnt even pretent to listen after the first gate. Needless to say the fight did not go as the guy had planned.
Guide to how to treat trials
-Always socially exclude them
-If they happen to top some long time raider in your guild. Call 'em arsehole and kick them
-If masterloot is coming back. Grief them
-Tell them to get Discord and set them to trial role with ridiculous rules
-If trial calls someone out for these rules you kick them and feel free to trash talk about them for next month
If you're coming into that, walk away and look for another guild. :)
@@suntiger745 Just pointing out what casual N/HC guilds do. No need to smash your keyboard :)
Casual n/hc guilds do??
No. Shitty people do it.
See it everywhere.
Mike even hints to the attitude existing here....
Not telling someone jackshi"" is just stupid and part of the psycopath-gene which sadly is spreading ...
Anyone who works as a team does not do this.
They explain, help out, communicate and ask.
Stop painting Normal or HC guilds as some niche behaviour and see it for what it is:
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@@spongethebob8658 Casual N/HC guilds are the only kind I've ever been a part of and none of them have done that.
I'm sure it happens, in fact it pretty much did happen to a player who joined our guild, but I highly doubt it is the norm, since none of the other players who joined our guilds told such stories.
totaly my 1st HC LoD run back in the wrath days. totaly agree
that smoker's cough tho
Pretty sure the bait was for Wormhole.
To be fair just taking the more simple example of the roots at the start, its such a dick move to not just tell the new guy who you just told to handle the roots "dks are going to pull adds into the middle, after that you need to mass root the first one". Even if hewasnt such a newborn at the tinker fight, maybe his previous guild used another strat, who knows. It takes 5 fcking seconds, why would you not just make him clear to him?
Why aren't you guys using something like Typhoon or Thunderstorm to help supplement the DK grips for CC'ing the bots? Not critiquing, just honestly curious...seems like it'd build in some redundancy for those "everything's gone pear-shaped" moments
They got 3 DKs, when you only need 2 for this fight, so it shouldn't be a big issue that needs backup. When we did the kill we only had 2 DKs in and only had our shammys on a thunderstorm backup duty for 1 set of bots since one of the DKs had to tank the boss when 1 set spawned. I also think priest's shining force works on the bots, so they got plenty of backup if shit goes completely bonkers and a bot is stuck in one of the camps. But generally with 3 dks, they won't ever need any backup whatsoever.
Hey Preach, can I ask you for your Weak Aura for Balance?
We had a pug warrior ( I play warrior for the team) and he didn’t stop damage for like 2 minutes then called out the damage meters. He got booted
What trinket is that?
26:57...you gave 7 ppl in your raid that dot. LOL
Really interesting vid, can relate to so much of it xD
People who dosnt stop dmg when "stop dps" is called triggers me so fucking bad, and to make it worse they sometimes call a wipe for pushing the boss on a bad time.
Did you get “let go” from your guild Mike?
75th?
where can i find the videos of you doing the Mythic Race stuff?
maybe the vods are still up at methods twitch :)
Follow Rules first. DPS or Healing is not your prio. And i know what you mean, its like here is the keys to this f16 fighter this and this is what you need to do now good luck pilot.... Me: Wait what ??
forever alone trinket ftw!
thanks mike, informative!
JADAM's in a preach vid POG
Personally the trials I remember or ask my RL too keep around are people who talk while raiding (this doesnt have to be just chit chat, it could be tips or tricks for strategy or asking how to do something). People that stay alive and dont fuck mechanics (high dps is a good thing but not everything cause gear will fix that in most cases). People that try to help out by taking responsibility for shit ( this could be from dispelling to clearing bombs on jade fire). Trials that know their class and try to use their utility for a better and easier kill ( it might be a farm boss but an easier and faster kill will be recognized). Lastly trials that do something clutch (like off healing that tank when healers are oom, as a healer I will see that, to picking up roles that belonged to people that died). As a trial u just got to show what u can bring to the table, and every little thing does count in my books. ALSO DONT BE A DICK/AGRO DUDE that rages in coms. I'm my books talking about negativity over coms is a huge con. That might be as little as a deep sigh, to telling people how to improve when we all can tell u arnt pulling ur weight ( had a trial that would say to the raid members on how to do their rotation better while having a 5 ilvl orgimar clock equipped and using azerite traits of another spec cause it's expensive to redo traits).
Also people that stick through a prog fight are in the good books. Took us 115 pulls on mythic opulence, the trials that stuck with us are now proper members.
longest apology in history
I'm sorry but you can't be serious here right ? You're saying when a new member joins a raid group the raid leader doesn't inform them of the tactic that they are implementing during a kill? So you must just guess and potentially wipe the raid.
Some times the RL wont remember all the tactics for the fight. Only the major ones, for example the positioning of range. The RL might not be range and forget where exactly the camera angles are best. Also there are RL that are bad at communication and u got to figure shit out on the spot especially on a farm fight. Preach is also highlighting the things u can do as a trial to get a roster spot. Like self healing, personal responsibilities and positioning.
@@perow4029 I get that i'm just surprised they didn't mention about marks/why things are positioned
@@jakeholding715 You usually do not explain much stuff on farm bosses. Unless someone asks about shit. Asking is always good.
@@Traumglanz a LEADER explains basics and special jobs every time.
A person with psychopath gene and superiority complex only takes the title "leader" and sucks at it.
Elitism from the banned players bench. It's strong and unsettling.
For some reason i like listeneing to you and your storries. Keep it up
hmm, should I take advice from a banned player? :D
I am bad and i feel bad :P
video hurts to watch due to "breaks" that youtube gives
you are confusing a bait with a kite....
When someone leaves their guild to "progress", it shows a lack of loyalty. I have nothing but disdain for disloyal people.
If someone leaves their guild to progress they are trying to take the next step in raiding and maybe also become better at the game. Especially if you play on a higher level than the rest of your guild and want to find players who share your mentality. It's a better option than becoming frustrated with your current guild and maybe even lash out at your fellow raiders in an elitist outburst because they are not "on your level". No mythic raider started in a top mythic guild and everyone who wanted to achieve this had to part ways with old guildmates one time or another in order to become a more serious raider.
A self aware guild understands this and wishes you good luck on your journey. A spiteful, pitiful guild will start questioning your loyalty.
It's not vanilla anymore, where you leaving meant that an entire month worth of loot drops are gone from the guild. And even then, you joining a guild doesn't mean you sell your soul to them. Of course there are ways to be an asshole and to abuse a guild before leaving, but in general that's not what happens. Just don't be a dick about it and tell them beforehand so they can try to replace you in time.
You are not bound to your guild or your raiding team. You are not forced to stay in the same guild for years. It's not disloyal to strife for higher goals while your guild is content with settling for less. Or would you call someone who leaves his local sports team to play at a national level disloyal too?
Justify it any way that makes you feel good.
I watch this and just supper jelly on druid utility, can priests please get some? :(
Yeah give them more utility even though they are being stacked as they are OP already.
@@Xenamos That had nothing to do with my statement.
Get new person into raid. Know they are new person. Don't bother to run through strategy so they at least have a chance of knowing what they're doing.
Erm no: that's extraordinarily bad raid leading. Obviously it would be a run through of specific points, not the whole fight mechanics. However you have this backwards. Trials shouldn't have to ask this sort of thing. Trials should automatically be told this sort of thing. To not tell them is spectacularly incompetent raid leadership.
Wtf who the f would trial preach ^^
Thank god there is personal loot now and trials can get loot while they are being tested on bosses that the guild spent 100 trys on. They surely deserve this.
1. the trial is not putting the same effort into that bosskill as all the other guys. He is basically being boostet for "free". So he doesnt deserve anything. You dont need all 20 men to kill farmbosses.
2. Trials get loot that nobody else needs and with every boss dropping like 5 items and hoping for titanforges almost any loot after 2-3 kills isnt needed anymore.
3. Why would you give a trial loot that somebody from your steady roster needs? You dont know yet if that trial is suitable for your guild and any loot would potentially wasted on him.
4. trial periods are like 2-4 weeks. I think you can manage yourself with 4 weeks without loot espacially with mithic+ around.
@@timolupwik Raided anywhere between worldrank 30-800 since vanilla and every guild is doing it this way because its the only reasonable way to handle loot in a progression guild. But your insults tell me that you are running out of good points and that is probably because you dont know how raiding guilds work. Also you didnt even read what I wrote. Is this the mmo-champion forums?
@@timolupwik I mean if you still didnt read what I wrote and keep on assuming things and insulting me for it, then there is no point arguing with you. You are mmo-champion forums incarnate. That means you are stupid. Have fun with your wrong opinion.
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75% of the points you addressed could've been solved simply by looking at a log replay - would've showed you were to stand, when to bait, where to go with what markers, where bots are gripped to, when to root, everything. An additional 20% could've been solved by watching any video at all before going into this fight - what your guild is doing here isn't special, everyone is doing that, you would've found out about the awkward camera situation, about the robot handling, about the bomb drop locations, about the bait, the knockup/sheep/lifegrip situation everything.The only thing you had to ask was your role in the root rotation.
This video gives a terrible impression about just going in and winging it, figuring out shit on the fly and just naturally adapting to it - which is a great skill to have if you can just do that. But that is just a terrible advice to give to players who are trying to make it through their trial phase. Just open a log, watch the replay for like 5 minutes and you can avoid half of the pitfalls Preach is mentioning in this vid, many of which stem from his seeming unwillingness to prepare for the fights (which, again, can work if you're good at the game but is a terrible advice to give to people who are generally not that good or don't have 15 years of experience under their belt).
Mr Peter Parker the problem with the replay feature is that it won't show you everything as well as it can in game, it won't show you the camera issue, it won't show you the addons being used and it won't give you a good understanding of the timing of the fight. For position and a few extra bits of information it's definitely helpful but it will never paint the full picture. As for watching a video before the fight again it won't really do much since one you are actually within the fight you won't know the timing of abilities and events that well.
Other than that the video did a good job at showcasing what to do if something goes wrong or you become lost as to what's going on.
@@MrJayza89 That's why you also watch literally any kill video after or before you watch the replay. And you also read a guide beforehand so you know what the fight actually does (unlike Preach who doesn't know about the boss TP knockup sheep whatever thing).
You obviously will not be able to play the fight perfectly the first time you're there, but Preach gives the impression of literally doing 0 prep and just reacting to everything - which again is a horrible advice to give to anyone who's not raiding at like world#100.
Prep for bosses you haven't seen yet. Then prep some more. And after that prep some more. Don't just go in there and wing it because log replays don't show you addons used so they're basically pointless ~~~
20:26 why didnt you just use your Mass entanglement? Its instant cast, and the CD is the same ad the duration, so there was 0 reason to use Entangling Roots. In my opinion, that wouldve actually been a negative in judging a trial, as it shows a lack of class knowledge
Other than that detail, love the vid, very informative
Didn't want to mass roots the 3rd bot in the wrong place, hence the DK gripping it so single roots better there. You could have wiped the raid in that situation.
He had another spark bot spawning at that time, he would have to entangle that one too, and since he saved mass entangle he was able to refresh the entangle on all the bots at the sime time, so using entangling roots there was actually better.
i believe he did that cause the other bot wasnt in place and he didn want to waste mass entanglement cd if it was needed right after to get both bots rooted in the right place
He had to use it less than 30 seconds later. Mass roots is one of the most important spells in this boss fight, you can’t afford to have it on cooldown when you really need it
@@Quintaner he didnt tho? His only root was the first of 3, so the next bot was the third druids, he had loads of time until his Mass root was needed
If you havent played a fight with the guild or at all for that matter, you should feel responsible to go to a person of your role / spec from your guild and talk the fight/s over to get as much information as you can beforehand. Watching a video ahead of time and making some notes you can ask about also helps. That will leave a good impression by itself because so little trials are doing that in the first place. If there is no one willing to explain the fights to you, you are probably in the wrong guild anyway. But dont make the mistake and wait for any of the raiders to come to YOU and tell you stuff. Take the initiative.
Led plenty of fights and entire guilds through my 14 years of playing - I always ask "anyone not sure of what to do?" Before we even start the raid.
Before each boss I also quickly go through basics.
"Nuke -hide with debuff-cc adds-interrupt X-dispell Y".
It takes NO time to do...
If I have anyone on special stuff likw mike here I also say "mike cc add when in mid"
Done.
This entire "I am too "leet" to explain tactics" is just ridiculous...
The attitude bothers me a lot, its a bully attitude of people who have a bad view of things and the psychopath gene...
If you are a team - you work as a team.
You help eachother and make sure everyone knows and is ok.
If you have a newbie with you - you dont point and laugh at him/her...
You see if he/she asks things first - then fill in if necessary.
You can judge if someone is a good addition to the team on their personality clicking with the rest, tactics and skill can be taught -- personalities cant.
3 views and 5 likes???? I think RUclips is crazy again...
A like can be (but isn't always) counted immediately upon clicking the button, which you can do before even watching the video. A view, however, isn't counted unless you've actually watched a significant portion of the video; views aren't +1 as soon as the video begins loading. So if you have more people hit Like than sit through the whole video early on after upload, you get a situation where number of likes > number of recorded views.
If you do not know what this is you must be new on youtube welcome, hope you have a good time here.
You can look this up here on youtube.
Short version is that there are servers all over the world
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