@@princesszeldaprincess447Yes, but as OP points out, his daughter dropped out of high school to care for her baby. Sure, baby might have state insurance, but what about the things that insurance/wic/food stamps doesn't cover? Seeing as she doesn't have a high school diploma and can only work part time... She's not being paid a lot.
@Cherries2249 so what you want, both of them charged with SA. Come on have some common sense. While I agree that a 14 year old can not consent legally. Legally being the key word because actully they can consent because if one had not consented it would be a crime. But in the case of 2 minors so close in age that both consented there simply isn't a crime, not legally or even morally.
@cheekyftoro8962 there is no crime, but a 14 year old can't give informed consent, not just consent, but informed consent, when it comes to sex, because how can they when their brains literally aren't developed enough for them to understand consequences and long-term effects of what they're doing? They're children who cannot give informed consent. The fact it's not a crime doesn't make my statement any less true
@Cherries2249 This who thered the initial comment my comment on the initial comment is all about it being a crime. If ypu don't understand the conversation you should probably not try to join in on it until you do.
Making sure the baby is cared for is a good thing. But your daughter herself is still just a child. And obviously much too young to have a child on her own. As was seen by her neglect. It's a shame on both sides tbh.
I agree, this was a lose lose battle, only issue is with this is he probably lost a daughter and a grandson in the process, that's a very tough decision
Na, children shouldn’t have children it’s as simple as that and OP seems like the type that would’ve raised the baby if he could but ultimately the daughters poor decisions lead to this outcome
My parents helped me raise my child when I had him at 15. He's 21. Outstanding young person. Helpful, respectful and caring. My dad is my son's best friend. My son graduated highschool and went out with his friends and my dad and his friends love my dad as much as he does.
@jheriking5585 that's great. It's amazing that you were able to raise your child despite being so young. Unfortunately not everyone around that age has the same amount of maturity/help that you had. You sound proud. You should be
@@PratibhaKamble-mw3ji she had the option to abort or get the baby into adoption, if she decided to keep the baby she has to be responsable of her Child even if she is still a kid, because she decided to keep them
Considering the parents didn't go after him at all, something tells me either she doesn't know who the father (that's on her) or she lied about critical info, so her parents might be trying to avoid any lawsuits. For example: age or taking a more effective birth control like the shot. Or maybe dad's *already* in jail, so no help there.
(who was most likely a 15 year old as well or around that age) Stop acting like its always someone older, plus it takes two people to get a girl pregnant and the story had no mention of sexual assault or anything like that
Okay, but is the daughter okay? Yes, the baby is most likely in better hands now, but the girl is going to need some serious counseling and has needed some serious counseling.
@@LyricalIAmA restart? You really think that's how she sees it? No, her parents failed her. She's 15 and they left her to raise a baby without any support then had the baby taken when she, obviously, wasn't able to do so.
@@Ittybitty43the OP said the family barely made enough money to care for 3 of them. What wad he supposed to do? Take food out of his sick wife's mouth to feed his ignorant daughter and later grandson when he's old enough? Daughter wanted to be a mom, she got the mom experience.
There are programs he could have helped themselves or even helped his daughter. there is a reason ehy his wife is upset, she wanted her daughter and grandchild there and wouod have galdly suffered herself so her husband could provide for their child. @alexismyers6053
You have entirely too much confidence in kids caring about sex ed. Sex is fun and feels good, thats what dumbass kids care about. Proper sex ed wont just magically fix that.
@ZaxTax-h8t other countries have comprehensive sex education and in school resources Last time I looked up the stats the u.s. was number 1 for unplanned teen pregnancy and the number 2 country (I believe France at the time) had half our rate Sex ed works
@@dockilldreth9709 I had sex Ed and we still ended up with at last 2 middle school pregnancy's and 5 high school ones. And was just my time in school and my class. Sex Ed only works if the culture is receptive.
Well SHE was given the choice to give the child up for adoption..... SHE knew full well that her parents weren't well off and couldn't help her even if they wanted to..... So SHE made the decision and she will be the one to be blamed for HER decision.... Not the idiot she got pregnant by since he has No uterus.
How are her parents neglectful? They gave her optiins and told her that the health of the mother they could not support her and the baby. She kept the baby and works only a part time job and barely feeds the baby. That is on her.
@@whyareyouhere3698 SHE is 15 she could've never been trusted whit making the right choice the parents were in fact not the brightest or bulb in the shed if they thought she woould understand the consecuences of her actions and lf course a 15 year old could never support a baby on her own, both the kids dad and the grandparents are a structural part of the problem
I had my son at 15 and while I failed in some ways, he’s now 17 and gives me flowers and tells me how much of a good mom I was, even with my eff ups.,I graduated at 17, worked multiple jobs, moved away from my abusive family at 18, and took care of my kids alone most of my life, rarely asking for anything of anyone. Maturity is subjective. a class act of a hillbilly may be seen as fancy and mature compared to their counterparts, doesn’t make them mature but the standards of LA lifestyle. That was me, I was mature enough to know to breastfeed my baby, keep him dry, warm, and loved, to pay my bills on time, to work hard, but I was not mentally mature to deal with daily run ins with stress and exhaustion
Wow wow 😳😳 she needs protection too! But you did the right choice! How come she was not on some protection against pregnancy? And get the father investigated! Dropped out of school? No no no no! She was really put in a bade place 😢 she should been moved out and put in foster care too! This whole is wrong after wrong!!
Thats why teens shouldnt have kids. It is recommendable that she went to work to support her baby, its also not impossible she missed feeding and diaper changes, BUT. She is not realistic enough to unds her sacrifices are not enough. When shes 18 and she gets reported, it would be jailtime. Or worst, if the baby dies in her care.
DAMN....that is a bit much 😳 what did you really expect from a 15 yr teen mother that herself dont know which way is up. Yeah u helped her by taking her baby away. Now you can " STEP IN " By getting the baby from CPS ! 🤨 FAMILY IS THE WORST !
He wont. He wanted her to kill the baby. When she refused, he wanted her to give the baby away. She refused that too now he just wants the baby gone. Wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted his daughter gone too. He doesn’t seem to give a fuck about her. all he does is bitch and complain about her about how much of an inconvenience she is to him
SIR YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. People are always spewing crap about babies and blessing setting so many people up to fail. Being a Parent is tough work. Being a husband to a disabled wife is just as hard. Then you add a teenager that feels neglected and a baby that's being neglected you have a full blown crisis. YOU WERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO GET HELP FOR YOUR GRANDCHILD and that's the best for him. Your daughter needs therapy and that lil boys family need to step in and help if not all parents need to agree to allow the baby to be adopted. Be at peace at least you got him help before it was too late.
the daughter is only a child too but what i go back to is that every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child and it would be hard to see that at 15 i think it's just unfortunate circumstances and im sure op and their daughter would love to have better circumstances
He gave options bc the were already not financially stable she wanted to keep it he didn’t want to force her to lose her child she started neglecting the baby to save money…they were helping with the baby but there so much the op who is working full time to provide for everyone and the mom who’s on disability but they said she had to be responsible and take care of her child she showed signs of neglect it’s not like the op wants to work himself to death to provided everything for her since she had to take part responsibilities the mom probably watch the baby while they were at work and she probably though it would work if her parents watch the baby whenever she wasn’t around… I’ve heard of a lot of teen mom who’s parents help them and care for the baby then the mom started being reckless and spending less time in the house she was probably taking advantage of the help she got and lucky it was caught early on
This is an ignorant statement. The OP even stated he is working unsustainable hours, it seems to me he is already working so many hours just to try and support his family that he can't do anything else. This 15 year woman should feel guilty. Yes she is 15, not a legal adult bur also not 5. She is smart enough and old enough to know exactly what happens when you do not practice safe sex. I also bet she assumed mommy and daddy would do it for her. In this circumstance she caused the whole situation expecting her parents to react just like you. And see I do know this because my niece has done the exact same thing. And she too expects that my SIL, wife, myself, and her grandparents will take care of the baby for her even though my SIL struggles to make ends meet. See the thing here is that is no longer a child, she is now a parent, and she is expected to be a parent. The OP is being a parent doing everything he can to provide for his child, but that does not extend to the baby. Especially depending on state law, not many states have grand parent rights so his hands are tied. Either he works himself literally to death or he gets CPS and the police involved. At least this way he can still support his family and his grandchild can be removed from a neglectful parent and hopefully be placed in a safe loving environment until the ACTUAL PARENT can support the baby. All the guilt and blame is on the 15 year old. And shame on you for bashing a father that is doing everything he can to take care of his family while also "being the villain" to make sure his grandson is OK and taken care of.
Everyone blames the parents. That baby was an option his child chose to have. These kids think being a parent is easy and they fill their heads up thinking babies only need love. YOU EXCUSE THE KID BUT BLAME THE FATHER. He's already dealing with enough and he was strong enough to call for help for the baby. He did WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST. We don't know how disabled his wife is or how bad they are struggling. NOT EVERYONE IS AT HOME THANKING GOD FOR A BABY. Babies are a huge burden and responsibility that this brave man said he simply can't handle. SAVE THAT ENERGY FOR THE LITTLE BOYS PARENTS OR THE KID WHO DECIDED TO ADD MORE STRESS TO A STRESSFUL HOUSEHOLD. Babies are a blessing😂😂😂😂.. no they aren't.
Could have gone to a charity, churches, etc to help support the girl and the baby, then teach her how to raise a baby properly. Dad probably got tired of the crying and called out of annoyance.
What part of wife is disabled and he working every hour he can and barely getting by? What time do you want him to put "change/feed the baby" on his calendar? The daughter made a poor choice, but it was her choice. My mom had me at 16, and I was never unfed or unclean.
Right.... there's programs that gives formula, beans ,rice, cereal, regular milk and juice for free. Churches give out food, diapers sometimes money. Then there's social services. The baby's father left but she can still get support from him. Maybe his family can help. Jeez did they try anything? Sounds like they all could use help. Hopefully the social worker will make suggestions including parenting classes.
@@AnaPriscillaPorto remember, gen x was the only generation that raised their kids mostly. It's slowly becoming an expectation that the parents raise their kid's children so that the kid can have a childhood.
@@kitsumekat hello from Eastern Europe, it's actually weird not to have grandmas and grandpas to help with a kid and a huge predictor of people never reproducing without such familial support here.
@ZaxTax-h8t That's irrelevant if the child is already in the world. Having 4 parents contribute to assisting the teens while they grow up is way better than chancing the Russian Roulette of adoption.
She's 15! If CPS removes the baby from your house, they should take your daughter too. She is a child you are responsible for, and you're obviously a neglectful parent. Otherwise, your daughter wouldn't be a 15 year old single parent struggling to provide for her baby. How can you refuse to support your underaged daughter?
Well if the mother is sick and on welfare and he becuse of that can't provide to more than his daughter that is what he is responsible for and if she get pregnant with her boyfriend he can't force her to get a abortion but he can force her to step up and be responsible of the baby if she keeps it for the baby's sake...?
@karolinaastrom1469 so explain to me how a 15 year old is supposed to both care for a baby 24/7 without any support and also financially support said child. The parents failed her and failed the child she brought into this world. Yes, she's responsible but op is the adult and is responsible for her. Op failed first then set his daughter up to fail.
You did the right thing. Hard as it is, that baby needs a stable environment and parent. You're doing what's best for both of them. Your daughter is also too young mentally and emotionally to be a good parent. She still needs to be a kid herself. She loves him, but love isn't always enough, as tough a realization that is as well. Try for an open adoption, that way, you can still see the baby and know how he is doing. This will help your daughter's transition more as well. Rather than simply taking him away and telling her to move on.
Imagine being the only adult in the house and casually watching your young teenager neglect her baby because she doesn't have the resources to do otherwise. Neglecting every child in the house and then calling CPS is crazy.
Wow what a beautiful way to say that teenagers are stupid and therefore should not be trusted.... I mean you took ALL accountability away from the 15 year old as if somehow parents can and should watch their kids 24/7.... Stop with the BS that teenagers are not responsible for getting pregnant!
When has he had time to watch his daughter be neglectful when he works insane hours just to make ends meet? He told her from the beginning of her options and that he couldn't afford another mouth to feed. Her stubbornness led to this.
@@whyareyouhere3698 why are you JUST blaming her? It takes 2 to tango. Plus now that Roe v Wade is repealed it's not like she could just NOT have the baby anyways. Stupid actions have stupid consequences. Voters should hear MORE of these stories to show that WE'RE ALL responsible for messed up situations like this!
OK. I don't know what he expected to happen. Obviously, a young teen would be struggling to care for a child with only a part-time job. I mean who will watch the child if she does full time? Not the parents as they said they wouldn't support her. If the baby is still an infant she can't put him in daycare and the baby's father left so she was ALONE. No help. NOTHING. This is the result of not only the teen mom's choices but ultimately the parent's choices as well. A good alternative would've been her staying with her parents and them all getting jobs and putting their money together to care for the baby and other necessities. They could've ALL taken care of the baby. One watches the baby while the other two work and vice versa. Was this to show her the consequence of her actions? If so good job. You ruined a relationship with your child and set her up for failure. I just don't understand how a parent who claims to love their child would make this decision and not immediately take it back once they realize that they are setting her up for failure. Did they teach her how to cook? Pay bills? Or did they just come to this decision knowing full well they didn't sufficiently teach her independence yet? Again WHAT. WERE. THEY. EXPECTING. Obviously, the girl was trying, but there's a limit to what you can do when your options are limited. This is so tragic. Parents out there, just know there are other options. There's the one I mentioned, as well as her just using the money on the baby while not worrying about bills until they can go to daycare or reach proper schooling age. THEN they can help with the bills or groceries until she has learned/you have taught her independence and can live out on her own. Parenting doesn't stop when they have done something you don't agree with, become a parent themselves, or become a young adult. It's UNTIL YOU DIE. THAT INCLUDES TEACHING THEM ESSENTIAL LIFE SKILLS EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE A CHILD AT A YOUNG AGE. YOU'RE JOB IS. NOT. DONE! DO BETTER!
@@Masterk1988as a man who watched his teenage sister grow up they think there invincible and nothing can go wrong they will go out of there way to prove you wrong it’s kinda scary
@@-beelzebub right? I didn't have any sisters but I have a lot of cousins that are around my age and growing up just wow some of the stuff they would do regardless of what their parents would do to try and stop them.
Whats sad is that this probably doesnt even reflect on their parenting. I'm 16. My mom is lenient asf. My dads a bit more helicopter, but only has visitation rights. I'm always concerned for the other kids in my class are going through. I've heard way too much crap about vaping, sex and stuff that's just straight up immoral. Deadass heard someone talk about how they watched their friend take advantage of a drunk girl. And another guy is lying to his gf that he's 19 when he's only 16. The most rebellious thing I've been doing is going to the park for 20 minutes after school to unwind against my moms wishes and telling her that the buss comes a little late. And procrastination, that probably has something to do with ADHD. And the most rebellious thing I've aspired to do is steal out of a crispy cream dumpster. Y'know, crap that wouldn't hurt anyone. The crap they get up to makes me scared for what I would have become if I were a more social and outgoing person, this type of behavior gotta be influenced by friends. I think this because sometimes I look at how much fun they seem to be having, feel envious, and wonder if I'm waisting my youth. But then I listen to what girls are always crying about in our bathrooms (strangely frequent occurrence) and I realise that, no. I'm not growing up too slow, they are just going too fast.
Yeah... You failed your child and decided to "do right" by the child that was easier to deal with, the baby. Just call cps and be a hero! Meanwhile your kid that was your full responsibility and you needed to do more for is struggling.
@@Brit626I agree bc op is already working maximum mom is on disability and she’s working part time but it’s not a lot of help of financially support they should’ve charged child support
@@milkshakeyaoiyaoiyay3368 bro I am in highschool,( last year). I am not from America and I have never seen kids stupid like American kids........have they ever heard of condoms.......🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄stop defending these stupid children who don't the consequences of their actions......
Wait. Did you not hear the story at all? He gave her options even though they were financially struggling with a disabled person and she still went ahead to have the child. On top of that, she was neglecting the child. What was he supposed to do? Allow the child to grow up in a broken home with a neglectful mother who is ALSO a child herself?
The daughter fucked up and got pregnant as a teenager wtf is wrong with expecting her to behave like a parent, she's the one who is to blame not the father
You did right by for ur grandchild but did u do right to ur daughter. Did u try talking to her first. Get her some therapy for this ordeal? Get her some support group? Or just have father and daughter moment?
Wow so instead of helping your kid, who is VERY CLEARLY STRUGGLING, you decide to make her struggle even worse and potentially make your grandchilds life even worse. The foster system is not kind.
He can help, he alredy has to take care of a sick wife and a Daughter not that Smart. If You can't take care of your children dosen't have them, don't expect your parents take care of them For You.
@@xCoatlicuex well by the way he was talking about her I doubt this man cares about his daughter let alone loves her, if he truly did he would've made sure she knew it, so she wouldn't get pregnant by the first boy to tell a pretty lie. People let your children know you love them, I didn't have a rebellious teenage phase, you know why? Because everyday my parents give me hugs and tell me they love me not just through their words but through their actions as well, you need to make sure that your child knows that you have their best interests at heart so they don't go sleeping around at 15 getting pregnant.
Okay but the Mother is disabled and that would be irresponsible to make her care for a baby and the Father is barely making it home from all the hours of work and barely having enough money to pay the bills. They ARE HELPING by making sure the baby is fed, bathed, and clothed but it doesn't means they can afford to do that forever either. And their kid dropped out of school to work but leaving a dipper in for too long can cause rashes and infections leading to UTIs. The baby could become sick from that and that's another payment they can't afford, thus they can't afford to give that child a proper home to begin with. I believe that putting the baby up for adoption would be better. It might not be great, the system is a hard one but at least the baby can be cared for by a munch of adults and maybe adopted to a good family that can give them a good future. And I say this as someone who's been on the system btw.
1) the girl was neglecting a baby 2) The teen shouldn’t be a mom at 15. And her actions shows why. 3) Seeing OP’s circumstances, they did the right thing because how dare the teen mom be reckless and the OP have to suffer the consequences? I’m all for supporting teen moms, I’m not for supporting idiots or teen pregnancy.
@xCoatlicuex I'm 23 I have an almost 8 month old. My parents help me out when I need a babysitter they're there grandparents should help out as my grandparents help my parents when I was little and ill obviously do the same it takes a village as they say.
What can he do? They can barely afford to take care of themselves, never mind the extra mouth... It sucks, but it's the only option. She can go for an open adoption, and hopefully be in her baby's life as he grows up.
@LookingGlass69 how about actually helping her? He bitches about being tight on money but makes no mention about helping her apply for the probably countless programs that could help her. Snap, WIC, child support, welfare, etc. He may also be entitled to benefits for his own daughter through his wife's disability. He's a garbage parent. All he cares about is forcing his postpartum child into full-time labor but somehow magically take care of a baby alone.
1) Op is poor and already works crazy hours for barely any money 2) Op's wife is disabled 3) Daughter is irresponsible 4)Op clearly stated at the beginning that he worked far too long hours to completely support his daughter and would do the bare legal minimum due to his schedule 5) I personally believe that it wasn't Op's fault. In the end, even if Op taught the daughter to wait till 18 or more for having kids, it was her choice to do the erm... Thing and he shouldn't be held accountable for his daughter's choices when stating during the pregnancy he wouldn't be able to support her with his pay. If there is anyone to blame, its the daughter and father of the op's grandkid.
She had choices and she made one, you'll feel guilty but you're not wrong, now it's your decision as to what you do put your grandson in foster care or take on the responsibility. No one knows what her reaction will be, will she shape up and be a better mother if he's taken or will not learn anything from her decisions if you take full responsibility for the child... you can't tell what the outcome will be, it's up to you as to what should be done....
Abort the Mission clesrly would've been the best option post the fact. CPS, foster care, the high potential of not being adopted by decent people is a nightmare way of existence for a young life. Unwanted children don't fare well in this world.
You let your anger get in the way of caring for your daughter. She gets to decide what to do with her body, but as she was 15, you still have a responsibility to take care of her and you've forgotten that. You could have reacted better and stopped her from spiralling downwards into a hole she cant get out of alone. She didnt become not your problem just because she had a child.
How the hell does your logic work?? - Its her body, she can do what she wants - You have to take accountability fot her actions If its her body, her choice, then its her choice, her responsibility. She was neglecting her child and OP made the decision to call CPS to help. He is the sole breadwinner of the family and told her before birth that he cannot support a child financially.
@coreymeredith4001 I never said the parents were 'accountable' for her actions or responsible for her child. I said that *she* is still an underage child and they still have a responsibility to take care of *her*. Underage children don't stop being underage children the day they give birth, and having a grandchild doesnt absolve the parents of their responsibility to their child. Her parents neglected her because they were angry at her. Read the words I actually said, not words you made up to misinterpret my intention.
This is what I hate about these situations, the girl could have given up the child to a couple that could have loved him for his entire life, but she keeps him and neglected him just for CPS to take it away anyway.
So you're saying that your 15 year daughter got pregnant and instead of supporting her you gave her the ultimatum to either abort the baby of fend for herself? I think the daughter is the one who need child service more than the baby
He barely makes enough money to support himself, his ill wife who can't work, and their daughter. What did you want him to do. Cut back on hours and make them all homeless?
@@glensiembida1888 can you really say it experienced humanhood if it never had a thought before? we are human because we think and feel. fetus can feel only after 24-25 weeks and they start developing some form of consciousness at 24-28 weeks. itll never be same as a newborn or baby even if its same species as us
@@ap4tite In recent years, modern medicine has revealed the truth about unborn babies, overwhelmingly confirming that an unborn baby is human. Even “Pro-abortion” biologists agree
As you can't cope yourself why would you expect your daughter to be able to cope? She's still a child herself. She needed more support than just a roof over her head. The baby is the most vunerable so must obviously be cared for. ...CPS will also be looking into you and your wife regarding if you adequate enough t care f vunerable 15yr old! They may just offer her a placement with her baby.... Whatever happens you have ensured the end of your relationships as father and grandfather. .
I hope they do offer her a placement with her baby. Obviously her parents don't give a shit about her. She could use some parenting while she learns to be a parent. She seems like she is trying since she dropped out to work and takes care of her baby solo.
Where is the blame because he never blamed hisdaughter?? He said he was terrified for his daughter. I think your projecting brother and not taking the fathers already existing struggles into account, nor are you holding the young mother accountable for her role in have and neglecting a baby she chose to keep and give birth to. We in the us are so spoiled that we forget that other countries 15 -17 is considered adult age and responsibilities are expected. Even young mothers around her age don’t get three choices in other countries they only have one choice and that is to keep and raise the baby. The truth is in America, we’ve allowed the sexualization of minors and has lost our morals and values when it comes to sexual compulsion and have just allowed to except degenerate ways from people who claim to want acceptance, but only want to influence and bully others to not only approve but also indoctrinate
@andrewwilson3963 how did he fail as a parent though? How is it his fault that his child got pregnant at 15? He even have her options on how to go about the pregnancy and she STILL went ahead with the pregnancy knowing FULL WELL that her family is financially struggling, has a disabled mom and a father who has odd working hours and cannot be present. She STILL went ahead to have the child knowing she was still in school and having a baby and working at the same time would be difficult. She made all these decisions herself, so how did they fail her? Because I remember fully well the father said they would only help based on what is LEGALLY required, so no, they didn't fail as parents. She chose to have the child knowing fully well all these were laid out to her
@kora9591 murder isn't a choice she is 15 a child her getting pregnant and having her dad tell her to either murder the baby or deal with it is shitry parenting.
@@andrewwilson3963 actually abortion isn’t illegal depending where u are Edit- Also the dad said she had 3 option have the baby adopted raise the baby with the parent providing legal requirements or abort the baby she chose the most difficult choice
YTA why would you call those people instead of stepping in and helping your daughter if you’re so concerned? How does calling child services benefit in anyway? She can’t afford diapers so she delays diaper change. How about you help her get some diapers🤦🏽♀️
With what money? They are already struggling financially as is. He is working himself to death to make sure they have a roof over their heads, food on the table, lights, running water and heat. Where is the outrage for the idiot that knocked her up and then split
Just wait until the update of him getting investigated by cps for the truancy, forcing her to work less than a month postpartum, etc. or him sending her away
Why? Because he clearly stated that they warned her and even layer down options but she still heeded to have the child even when they were financially struggling as well as the mother being disabled. So how is he the AH in this situation?
Ayo, she was working full time and doing the best she could. They’re the truly neglectful ones here. If they knew she was skipping feedings and diapers because she had no choice because she had no money, they should have helped. They could have helped and they didn’t.
I don't think you understand. They said part time not Full time. Full time means she would be relying on her parents to care for the kid while she works meaning feedings and diaper changes would not be missed. Part time it's all on her with minor help from her parents. Plus they explicitly said that they wouldn't be helping. And before you reply with "BuT iTs ThErE GrAnDkId ThEy sHoUlD bE hElPiNg AnYwAy!" Keep in mind the wife is on disability and the OP is working ungodly hours just to keep them afloat and explicitly said they would NOT be helping financially and before you say "WhAt AbOuT pHiScAlLy?" The wife is on disability and the dad is working a lot. The child would be in a potentially worse situation. Yes I know she's barely scraping by but so are her parents!
To put this in perspective. Your struggling financially and your 15 year old child tells you she's pregnant meaning another person to feed clothe and provide for and you told them you would not be able to help. And then upon seeing that the way things are going your grandkid is in potential danger. And your only option to help is CPS. Would you make the call? They had to, and despite knowing it's for the best it's tearing them up inside.
@@GameOn-vr3zxum no? Part time means significantly less money so where the fuck is that money coming from to pay for diapers and formula? They wont pay for any of that and you cant get water from a dry well. She was not trying to hurt her son but she literally didn’t have the money. She can’t drive either, so if she wants to go to a food pantry her parents need to drive her or find someone else who can do it.
What an ass what sick kind of parent/grandparent wouldn’t help their kid and grandkid even if I was barley getting by myself I’d never call cps if they’re living under my roof Its still my job to take care of them
No one wants to accept that the teenager made a choice and she had to deal with the consequences. They are a poor family. They didn't have the money to take care of another person.
So the baby should just wait for that day while sitting in dirty diapers? the teen is the AH for not thinking about the consequences of her actions, for deciding to keep the baby too and not at the very least give it up for adoption because she knows she can't give it what it needs. This is a real baby, she's not just playing house
It is financially hard to take care of ourselves and another human being and having a baby and teenagers don’t fully understand what it truly is. Take care of a baby. I didn’t know until I had my child. I think that a little more help or helping to teach the daughter a little bit better might help, this kid drive a child completely out of your house and completely out of your life. You need to think what is more important if your daughter has the part-time job why can’t she pay for the move needs in that part-time job and you continue to pay what you’re paying for her yet she made a mistake. You gave her the option of keeping the baby thoughas her parent responsible the same time
15... she is a child herself and your responsibility 😒 😢 not everyone needs to procreate, if you don't have the means to take care of another human why bring them into this world for pain and suffering? 😢
You should not have let her quit school. You should have taught her better to begin with. You should be guilty, and you need to give her an apology for your own neglect in her training. The fact that op recommended abortion first for his own grandchild tells me that he neglected moral training first of all. The one area of training that could have kept all of this from happening. That hard call would never have been necessary but better late than never, I suppose, and at least you get a grandchild out of this.
Because she made a mature decision to keep the baby, KNOWING she couldn't care for it properly. My sister did the same thing when my niece, ALSO fifteen, had her first baby. You know what my niece did? She got herself a job, hired a baby sitter, and busted her ass to graduate and get a better job. Now, my niece is graduated, has had a couple more babies since then, and has her own place. There are many issues in this case, and all of them are due to the fact that they are treading the poverty line. -- Mom is disabled and gets social security checks. I wouldn't want her taking care of a baby if she can barely take care of herself. Mom can't watch the baby while OP and their daughter are at work. -- OP works, and odd hours at that. He can't take care of the baby either. -- Then, we have a fifteen year old girl who is undereducated, making minimum wage, and is likely neglecting her own hygiene and sleep to take care of her son. She loves her boy, it's obvious they all do, but sometimes, love isn't enough. As sucky as it is, OP made the right call. His child doesn't have the financial means to take care of a baby when she is undereducated.
@kitsumekat id agree with you if we were talking about someone in their twenties but this is a literal teenager who is struggling. She’s supposed to still be dependent on her parents, she is still a child and I think it’s insane to expect her to be able to just raise a kid entirely on her own.
@Brit626 I agree, I’m just saying OP should have expected this and I feel bad for the girl because she’s still a child herself who is struggling and is barely getting any support from her parents while expected to be a parent herself.
The baby is only 2 months old, not 10 months old. The girl is 15 with a baby so there's so many resources she could have applied for. She clearly couldn't afford diapers. Did they make sure she went to apply for WIC, food stamps, TEA, and other thing? If she wasn't directed to those resources first, then yta. Although she's clearly out there doing adult thing, she's still a child. She needs help
@@quinton01And what could a 15 year old provide by herself too? In order to give the baby a decent living, they should be helping each other. Teenager preganancy is no joke, there's only so much to consider other than "the daughter is a sl*t and should take all the responsability"
@@quinton01medicaid. Food pantries. Wic. Snap. Tanf. Pregnancy resource centers (they provide financial material & emotional support to new parents and their babies). Local churches. Many other local charities. Buy nothing groups. Extreme couponing. Selling anything that isnt an absolute necessity. Asking friends and family for help. Its hard but it’s possible
What disability is it that your wife have that can't look after her own grandson at home for a couple of hours? The daughter was trying hard and was possibly with post partum depression! She got a job and a new born to look after, come on! Where are her grandparents?! How come nobody went to court over this and demand child support from her ex's family? If I was her father I'd have been out for justice and blood 💀
why does it matter what disability the wife has, it was not her decision to give birth = not her responsibility to care for that child. grandparents are not free babysitters, they have their own life and needs to take care of, especially if they have disability
@rinipork that teen lives with her parents, what happened to the "it takes a village to raise a child"??? She got a job and stepped up already, she can't be at 2 places at the same time! Her father works too, so it's left one person to look after the baby. Why can't she change diapers or give a bottle of formula to that baby? Is she tetraplegic and that unable to care for her grandson?? Calling CPS only fucked up their daughter (whom they already failed by letting her sleep around tbh) and now they are separated from their grandson too who is only a few months old who is left with the system.
@@battlesister1559and then dad did what's best for everyone and put it up for adoption. Daughter ca go back to school and the kid will be taken care of. Stop thinking purely on emotion and use your tiny brain for once in your life.
This is why kids get traumatized and hate their parents. You refused to help and called cps shes 15 your wife could at least help her ir tlk her through motherhood. Adoption or abortion traumatic. As parents yall should be locked up she got pregnant on yall watch. This disgusts me i would nvr betray my child like this. If yall helped her with finding resources she could finish school and work part-time. Yall are dooming her to a life of brokenness
@@kpalmer7044 did you hear the story at all? Wife is disabled and he works odd jobs at all Hours. They physically and financially can't help because of their own crappy situation.
@@Cherries2249notice the douche canoe doesn’t specify what her disability actually is. It doesn’t sound like she is bedridden, unconscious, or brain damaged if she is capable of caring for her grandson a few hours at a time. Being unable to work can be due to all kinds of things and most people with disabilities are capable of being caring, attentive, safe, competent caregivers. Just because she has a disability doesn’t necessarily mean she cannot help with her grandson and it sounds like in this situation she can but op is mad because he hates his daughter and wants to punish her for getting pregnant and not being willing to kill her child or give him away (both are extremely difficult for many )
I am conflicted..but i am leaning towards calling him an AH. His daughter is still a child and that's true but her situation was very complicated yet she still tried to be there for her baby. It's so overwhelming to take care of a newborn, especially being a kid yourself and especially having no partner. She must have still been not fully recovered from the birth and yet she had to step up as a parent. And now her father's trying to separate her from her child she obviously wants. He should have been offering more support and care instead of calling cps. If he cared about his daughter and grandsom, he would never do that. While she was still learning to accept her new life, which extremely difficult as it is, she sill was there for the kid. Neglect? Maybe. Yet how should she know how to do things properly when he doesn't teach her? And why didn't he help her financially to cover diapers expenses? I really don't understand. I can't imagine muself being a single teen mom but i know for a fact that my mother, bless her soul, would have offered me her kind support and help. She is a single mom and managed to brought up me on my own while my family was in such a debt collectors were banging on our door and threatening to take me. She had an option, she was suggested giving me up for adoption but her endless love proved she couldn't do that and she didn't. She was not a teenager, she was 25 but so inexperienced in life (long story of my abusive family member nobody is interested in). My mom is still my main supporter and the person who loves me unconditionally. Yet OP forbidding his daughter to love her kid and his grandson to know and love his mother. He might find a wealthier house but can it really worth not knowing the person who gave birth to you and loved you while dealing with teen motherhood? He might not find a foster family and be left in the system til he's 18 - and we all know what can happen in those places. Is the risk worth it? I'm not sure. Why i gave my mom's story is because it shows that no matter how hard the circumstances are, it can still be pulled off. I really don't think OP is in such a position when they barely make their ends meet and i do believe if he genuinely love his daughter and grandson, he would never do what he did. He'll break the daughter's heart and she'll never forgive him if she loses the kid. Life is hard but turning your back on the family is so cruel and wrong
OP's daughter is 15, a minor, and too young to raise a child. OP did what is best for his grandson. Daughter may feel betrayed and angry, but as she grows, she'll understand that OP did what was best for the baby and for her.
It may do you some good to learn more about the conditions some children grow up in. I certainly would have been better off being placed in foster care as an infant rather than staying with my mother. As a foster parent myself now, I take pride in providing a healthy, stable home for kids. It has provided them and their mothers the space and time to develop healthier bonds.
I mean, what did he expect when he refused to support her more than the absolute bare minimum? Shes a kid herself and he blatantly told her she either abort, give her baby away, or raise him without her parenta support???? And now hes acting surprised that she struggled???? Be realistic for a second. He KNEW she wouldn't be able to do this alone. He KNEW she would struggle. Yet he choose to sit back and watch, then have her baby taken from her when she obviously wasn't able to do this alone??? Its no wonder he feels guilty. He knows he failed his daughter and grandson. He didn't "do the right thing" by calling CPS. If he actually wanted to do the right thing he would have supported her to the best of your ability, which he clearly didn't as he said in the post he told her he would only do the bare minimum legally required. She did her best. She dropped out of school and got a job, even if it is only part time she's 15!!! What did he expect her to do?? Did he honestly think anyone was going to hire a 15yr old for any decent full time position? Much less one that would allow her to solely support her child??? I wouldn't be surprised if she went no contact when she moves out. He set her up for failure from the beginning, sat back and neglected her and her baby, and then had the audacity to have her baby taken away and act like shes some POS mom who didn't care when she very clearly did. If she ever forgives him I'd be genuinely shocked. She had her baby taken away, despite the fact she was trying her damn best to care for him. I can't even begin to imagine the pain she is suffering right now. Losing her baby, being betrayed by her own father, and now wondering and fearing for her babys safety and well being. It's common knowledge that the foster system is cruel and fucked up. Kids have been abused and killed in the system and that's what he sent his grandson into because he expected a 15 year old to be able to raise a baby alone. SMDH. He should feel guilty and ashamed. I'm surprised CPS didn't remove her from the home as well, since she was obviously being neglected too. Honestly, they should've taken her and the baby to a place where she would actually be supported and receive the help they needed instead of being forced to be a 15yr old single mom, forced to drop out of highschool and get a job to try to support herself and a newborn, despite her father knowing she wouldn't be able to due to her age and sitting back watching her fail without providing any support whatsoever. Edit to add: Before anyone comes for me, yeah I heard the grandmother was on disability and his job wasn't substantial. That doesn't mean what he did was okay in any way. It doesn't mean he's in the right for neglecting his daughter and her son by refusing to help them any more than hes "legally required to", which he obviously didn't even do. She's 15. He knowingly and willingly set her up for failure and now wants to act like the victim because she's, rightfully, upset with him.
@@katie5920he wont get real parents. He’ll likely get pos people who only want the money. Risk of neglect, physical abuse, and sexual abuse are much higher in foster homes
Why not in this case sit down and tell it isn't working and looking for an adoption home with her, why call CPS? It's like he's punishing and shaming her for not being able to shoulder a responsibility he always knew would break her
Ya because as we all know the system is full of the best people not abusive or neglectful at all... you're as bad of a grandparent as a parent evidently. You feel guilty because you're doing something awful and your conscience knows it. You're her parents and should have insisted on adoption in the first place.
That is tough, geeah. Well I'll say this if you move with love and care everything will be fine. ❤ Moving with malice and I'll intenion? May God bless you.
Your daughter is a baby, but your GRANDSON is a true baby! He cannot fend for himself. I’m glad you stepped in.
They didn’t step in to help. They stepped in to get rid of a financial burden .
@@Lab757she was literally neglecting her child!
It is called post partum depression or ppd for those imbeciles that can’t understand it causes a mother to be neglectful
@@princesszeldaprincess447Yes, but as OP points out, his daughter dropped out of high school to care for her baby. Sure, baby might have state insurance, but what about the things that insurance/wic/food stamps doesn't cover? Seeing as she doesn't have a high school diploma and can only work part time... She's not being paid a lot.
@@Lab757thats what most men think of, is the money side of things and not what's moral. He definitely did it because of money.
What. The. Hell. There should be some serious crimes with this, getting pregnancy at 15, or probably 14 at the time is ABSOLUTELY crazy.
While I know American laws are weak and pathetic about protecting children. How would ot be illigal if 2 14 year olds have sex.
@@cheekyftoro8962 in my opinion neither of them can consent not even with each other. They're children
@Cherries2249 so what you want, both of them charged with SA. Come on have some common sense. While I agree that a 14 year old can not consent legally. Legally being the key word because actully they can consent because if one had not consented it would be a crime. But in the case of 2 minors so close in age that both consented there simply isn't a crime, not legally or even morally.
@cheekyftoro8962 there is no crime, but a 14 year old can't give informed consent, not just consent, but informed consent, when it comes to sex, because how can they when their brains literally aren't developed enough for them to understand consequences and long-term effects of what they're doing? They're children who cannot give informed consent. The fact it's not a crime doesn't make my statement any less true
@Cherries2249 This who thered the initial comment my comment on the initial comment is all about it being a crime. If ypu don't understand the conversation you should probably not try to join in on it until you do.
The "father" left unexpectedly??? Nah, that was totally expected!! What 15-17 year old wants to be tied down as a father with a child????
He should have worn a condom then.
I expected that.
The father should've kept it in his pants. But we're so used to letting the fathers of and telling the mothers to close their legs.
@@hopeausbyn1734 every single one of us expected that.
@@Kaesar_v it was clearly a decision to have underage sex on both of them, they are both at fault so don't pick sides
Making sure the baby is cared for is a good thing. But your daughter herself is still just a child. And obviously much too young to have a child on her own. As was seen by her neglect. It's a shame on both sides tbh.
I agree, this was a lose lose battle, only issue is with this is he probably lost a daughter and a grandson in the process, that's a very tough decision
Na, children shouldn’t have children it’s as simple as that and OP seems like the type that would’ve raised the baby if he could but ultimately the daughters poor decisions lead to this outcome
My parents helped me raise my child when I had him at 15. He's 21. Outstanding young person. Helpful, respectful and caring. My dad is my son's best friend. My son graduated highschool and went out with his friends and my dad and his friends love my dad as much as he does.
@jheriking5585 that's great. It's amazing that you were able to raise your child despite being so young. Unfortunately not everyone around that age has the same amount of maturity/help that you had. You sound proud. You should be
Just what i think
An innocent baby was being neglected. Anything outside of that is secondary. Get the baby to someone who will love and care for it
You know that the "mother" who is a minor is still a kid right?
@@PratibhaKamble-mw3ji she had the option to abort or get the baby into adoption, if she decided to keep the baby she has to be responsable of her Child even if she is still a kid, because she decided to keep them
@@PratibhaKamble-mw3ji She insisted on keeping the baby. She had a responsibility to it and she failed.
@@CrimpyPlateparents failed her. Who will hire a 15 year old full-time. Parents not even doing the bare minimum for the teen or the teens baby.
@@sararoby2566 Did you miss the part where the grandma was on disability and grandpa was more than he should already?
A lot of commenters are bashing the parents, but there's no outrage for the idiot that knocked up a 15 year old and then split
Considering the parents didn't go after him at all, something tells me either she doesn't know who the father (that's on her) or she lied about critical info, so her parents might be trying to avoid any lawsuits. For example: age or taking a more effective birth control like the shot.
Or maybe dad's *already* in jail, so no help there.
Sadly there never is. The irresponsible ejaculator is ALWAYS let off the hook
(who was most likely a 15 year old as well or around that age)
Stop acting like its always someone older, plus it takes two people to get a girl pregnant and the story had no mention of sexual assault or anything like that
Okay, but is the daughter okay? Yes, the baby is most likely in better hands now, but the girl is going to need some serious counseling and has needed some serious counseling.
She got a restart
@@LyricalIAmA restart? You really think that's how she sees it? No, her parents failed her. She's 15 and they left her to raise a baby without any support then had the baby taken when she, obviously, wasn't able to do so.
@@Ittybitty43true,I mean she left the school to take care of the kid,I mean she already left school.
@@Ittybitty43the OP said the family barely made enough money to care for 3 of them. What wad he supposed to do? Take food out of his sick wife's mouth to feed his ignorant daughter and later grandson when he's old enough? Daughter wanted to be a mom, she got the mom experience.
There are programs he could have helped themselves or even helped his daughter. there is a reason ehy his wife is upset, she wanted her daughter and grandchild there and wouod have galdly suffered herself so her husband could provide for their child. @alexismyers6053
Can we talk about CPS ACTUALLY TAKING A SITUATION SERIOUSLY FOR ONCE?!?!
You know it's bad when CPS gives a crap.
If proper sex ed was taught in school teen pregnancy wouldn't be such an issue
Doubtful.
You have entirely too much confidence in kids caring about sex ed. Sex is fun and feels good, thats what dumbass kids care about. Proper sex ed wont just magically fix that.
@ZaxTax-h8t other countries have comprehensive sex education and in school resources
Last time I looked up the stats the u.s. was number 1 for unplanned teen pregnancy and the number 2 country (I believe France at the time) had half our rate
Sex ed works
@@dockilldreth9709 I had sex Ed and we still ended up with at last 2 middle school pregnancy's and 5 high school ones.
And was just my time in school and my class.
Sex Ed only works if the culture is receptive.
That's been disproven with the most extreme sex ed teens that are active teen pregnancy, stds have sky rocketed.
Weird how no one talks about the dad who left and only blame the girl who works to keep her baby alive with neglectful parents
Well SHE was given the choice to give the child up for adoption..... SHE knew full well that her parents weren't well off and couldn't help her even if they wanted to..... So SHE made the decision and she will be the one to be blamed for HER decision.... Not the idiot she got pregnant by since he has No uterus.
How are her parents neglectful? They gave her optiins and told her that the health of the mother they could not support her and the baby. She kept the baby and works only a part time job and barely feeds the baby. That is on her.
SHE chose to keep it NOT HIM
Why would a kid be saddled with caring for a baby? She chose to keep it ! Do you expect a 14-15 year old to provide child support money?
@@whyareyouhere3698 SHE is 15 she could've never been trusted whit making the right choice the parents were in fact not the brightest or bulb in the shed if they thought she woould understand the consecuences of her actions and lf course a 15 year old could never support a baby on her own, both the kids dad and the grandparents are a structural part of the problem
I had my son at 15 and while I failed in some ways, he’s now 17 and gives me flowers and tells me how much of a good mom I was, even with my eff ups.,I graduated at 17, worked multiple jobs, moved away from my abusive family at 18, and took care of my kids alone most of my life, rarely asking for anything of anyone. Maturity is subjective. a class act of a hillbilly may be seen as fancy and mature compared to their counterparts, doesn’t make them mature but the standards of LA lifestyle. That was me, I was mature enough to know to breastfeed my baby, keep him dry, warm, and loved, to pay my bills on time, to work hard, but I was not mentally mature to deal with daily run ins with stress and exhaustion
Thing is they probably didn't teach her anything nor tried to after she gave birth.
Wow wow 😳😳 she needs protection too! But you did the right choice! How come she was not on some protection against pregnancy? And get the father investigated! Dropped out of school? No no no no! She was really put in a bade place 😢 she should been moved out and put in foster care too! This whole is wrong after wrong!!
No birth control methods are 100% effective. Also, investigate the father for what?
you wanna investigate an underaged boy? for what? two children being irresponsible?
Thats why teens shouldnt have kids. It is recommendable that she went to work to support her baby, its also not impossible she missed feeding and diaper changes, BUT. She is not realistic enough to unds her sacrifices are not enough. When shes 18 and she gets reported, it would be jailtime. Or worst, if the baby dies in her care.
Having a baby that young is crazy
DAMN....that is a bit much 😳 what did you really expect from a 15 yr teen mother that herself dont know which way is up. Yeah u helped her by taking her baby away. Now you can " STEP IN " By getting the baby from CPS ! 🤨 FAMILY IS THE WORST !
He wont. He wanted her to kill the baby. When she refused, he wanted her to give the baby away. She refused that too now he just wants the baby gone. Wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted his daughter gone too. He doesn’t seem to give a fuck about her. all he does is bitch and complain about her about how much of an inconvenience she is to him
SIR YOU DID THE RIGHT THING. People are always spewing crap about babies and blessing setting so many people up to fail. Being a Parent is tough work. Being a husband to a disabled wife is just as hard. Then you add a teenager that feels neglected and a baby that's being neglected you have a full blown crisis. YOU WERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO GET HELP FOR YOUR GRANDCHILD and that's the best for him. Your daughter needs therapy and that lil boys family need to step in and help if not all parents need to agree to allow the baby to be adopted. Be at peace at least you got him help before it was too late.
OP should feel guilty. Your baby had a baby and you're neglecting her too. What's best for your family would be for you to step tf up
the daughter is only a child too but what i go back to is that every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child and it would be hard to see that at 15 i think it's just unfortunate circumstances and im sure op and their daughter would love to have better circumstances
He gave options bc the were already not financially stable she wanted to keep it he didn’t want to force her to lose her child she started neglecting the baby to save money…they were helping with the baby but there so much the op who is working full time to provide for everyone and the mom who’s on disability but they said she had to be responsible and take care of her child she showed signs of neglect it’s not like the op wants to work himself to death to provided everything for her since she had to take part responsibilities the mom probably watch the baby while they were at work and she probably though it would work if her parents watch the baby whenever she wasn’t around… I’ve heard of a lot of teen mom who’s parents help them and care for the baby then the mom started being reckless and spending less time in the house she was probably taking advantage of the help she got and lucky it was caught early on
This is an ignorant statement.
The OP even stated he is working unsustainable hours, it seems to me he is already working so many hours just to try and support his family that he can't do anything else.
This 15 year woman should feel guilty. Yes she is 15, not a legal adult bur also not 5. She is smart enough and old enough to know exactly what happens when you do not practice safe sex. I also bet she assumed mommy and daddy would do it for her.
In this circumstance she caused the whole situation expecting her parents to react just like you.
And see I do know this because my niece has done the exact same thing. And she too expects that my SIL, wife, myself, and her grandparents will take care of the baby for her even though my SIL struggles to make ends meet.
See the thing here is that is no longer a child, she is now a parent, and she is expected to be a parent. The OP is being a parent doing everything he can to provide for his child, but that does not extend to the baby. Especially depending on state law, not many states have grand parent rights so his hands are tied.
Either he works himself literally to death or he gets CPS and the police involved. At least this way he can still support his family and his grandchild can be removed from a neglectful parent and hopefully be placed in a safe loving environment until the ACTUAL PARENT can support the baby.
All the guilt and blame is on the 15 year old. And shame on you for bashing a father that is doing everything he can to take care of his family while also "being the villain" to make sure his grandson is OK and taken care of.
Everyone blames the parents. That baby was an option his child chose to have. These kids think being a parent is easy and they fill their heads up thinking babies only need love. YOU EXCUSE THE KID BUT BLAME THE FATHER. He's already dealing with enough and he was strong enough to call for help for the baby. He did WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST. We don't know how disabled his wife is or how bad they are struggling. NOT EVERYONE IS AT HOME THANKING GOD FOR A BABY. Babies are a huge burden and responsibility that this brave man said he simply can't handle. SAVE THAT ENERGY FOR THE LITTLE BOYS PARENTS OR THE KID WHO DECIDED TO ADD MORE STRESS TO A STRESSFUL HOUSEHOLD. Babies are a blessing😂😂😂😂.. no they aren't.
Could have gone to a charity, churches, etc to help support the girl and the baby, then teach her how to raise a baby properly. Dad probably got tired of the crying and called out of annoyance.
What part of wife is disabled and he working every hour he can and barely getting by? What time do you want him to put "change/feed the baby" on his calendar? The daughter made a poor choice, but it was her choice. My mom had me at 16, and I was never unfed or unclean.
Right.... there's programs that gives formula, beans ,rice, cereal, regular milk and juice for free. Churches give out food, diapers sometimes money. Then there's social services. The baby's father left but she can still get support from him. Maybe his family can help. Jeez did they try anything? Sounds like they all could use help. Hopefully the social worker will make suggestions including parenting classes.
@@AnaPriscillaPorto remember, gen x was the only generation that raised their kids mostly.
It's slowly becoming an expectation that the parents raise their kid's children so that the kid can have a childhood.
@@kitsumekat hello from Eastern Europe, it's actually weird not to have grandmas and grandpas to help with a kid and a huge predictor of people never reproducing without such familial support here.
A dollar store or hand me downs too. Its starting to sound like there is a lot of options in this situation.
Always be the bad guy to protect any child idc who is upset do what's best for the child
Is someone else tired of the pistaccio pastry, hot chocolate and homemade tomato pasta trio?
Fr, they don't even switch up the videos anymore.
Am I the only one that thinks that a crime has been committed upon that cup? Yeah, yeah, yeah story..sad whatever, but that cup though.
Where's the other set of grandparents
Get the other parents involved. It takes a village.
No, it doesn't. It takes common sense and having a child at 15 is stupid.
@ZaxTax-h8t That's irrelevant if the child is already in the world. Having 4 parents contribute to assisting the teens while they grow up is way better than chancing the Russian Roulette of adoption.
They left the state and blocked the girl and her parents on everything
@princesslulu5795 They can't run from child support
You did right. That child needs to be adopted by someone who will love it and gone it the care it deserves.
It’s a hard choice, you chose to give the baby a chance at a better life. Your daughter will understand once she matures properly.
Or she will hate him till the day he dies.
She's 15! If CPS removes the baby from your house, they should take your daughter too. She is a child you are responsible for, and you're obviously a neglectful parent. Otherwise, your daughter wouldn't be a 15 year old single parent struggling to provide for her baby. How can you refuse to support your underaged daughter?
Agree so fucking much with this statement
Well if the mother is sick and on welfare and he becuse of that can't provide to more than his daughter that is what he is responsible for and if she get pregnant with her boyfriend he can't force her to get a abortion but he can force her to step up and be responsible of the baby if she keeps it for the baby's sake...?
@karolinaastrom1469 so explain to me how a 15 year old is supposed to both care for a baby 24/7 without any support and also financially support said child. The parents failed her and failed the child she brought into this world. Yes, she's responsible but op is the adult and is responsible for her. Op failed first then set his daughter up to fail.
@@karolinaastrom1469
Then OP should've called on himself years ago
15 year old child had a baby that means the parents were obviously not being good to teach their child anything.
You did the right thing. Hard as it is, that baby needs a stable environment and parent. You're doing what's best for both of them. Your daughter is also too young mentally and emotionally to be a good parent. She still needs to be a kid herself. She loves him, but love isn't always enough, as tough a realization that is as well. Try for an open adoption, that way, you can still see the baby and know how he is doing. This will help your daughter's transition more as well. Rather than simply taking him away and telling her to move on.
Imagine being the only adult in the house and casually watching your young teenager neglect her baby because she doesn't have the resources to do otherwise. Neglecting every child in the house and then calling CPS is crazy.
He failed as a father and grandfather
Wow what a beautiful way to say that teenagers are stupid and therefore should not be trusted.... I mean you took ALL accountability away from the 15 year old as if somehow parents can and should watch their kids 24/7....
Stop with the BS that teenagers are not responsible for getting pregnant!
When has he had time to watch his daughter be neglectful when he works insane hours just to make ends meet? He told her from the beginning of her options and that he couldn't afford another mouth to feed. Her stubbornness led to this.
@@whyareyouhere3698 why are you JUST blaming her? It takes 2 to tango. Plus now that Roe v Wade is repealed it's not like she could just NOT have the baby anyways. Stupid actions have stupid consequences. Voters should hear MORE of these stories to show that WE'RE ALL responsible for messed up situations like this!
@@syeneingram1218these stories are usually older and likely took place BEFORE the appeal.
OK. I don't know what he expected to happen. Obviously, a young teen would be struggling to care for a child with only a part-time job. I mean who will watch the child if she does full time? Not the parents as they said they wouldn't support her. If the baby is still an infant she can't put him in daycare and the baby's father left so she was ALONE. No help. NOTHING. This is the result of not only the teen mom's choices but ultimately the parent's choices as well. A good alternative would've been her staying with her parents and them all getting jobs and putting their money together to care for the baby and other necessities. They could've ALL taken care of the baby. One watches the baby while the other two work and vice versa.
Was this to show her the consequence of her actions? If so good job. You ruined a relationship with your child and set her up for failure. I just don't understand how a parent who claims to love their child would make this decision and not immediately take it back once they realize that they are setting her up for failure. Did they teach her how to cook? Pay bills? Or did they just come to this decision knowing full well they didn't sufficiently teach her independence yet? Again WHAT. WERE. THEY. EXPECTING.
Obviously, the girl was trying, but there's a limit to what you can do when your options are limited. This is so tragic. Parents out there, just know there are other options. There's the one I mentioned, as well as her just using the money on the baby while not worrying about bills until they can go to daycare or reach proper schooling age. THEN they can help with the bills or groceries until she has learned/you have taught her independence and can live out on her own. Parenting doesn't stop when they have done something you don't agree with, become a parent themselves, or become a young adult. It's UNTIL YOU DIE. THAT INCLUDES TEACHING THEM ESSENTIAL LIFE SKILLS EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE A CHILD AT A YOUNG AGE. YOU'RE JOB IS. NOT. DONE!
DO BETTER!
You did right by your grandchild, but you failed your daughter, getting pregnant at 15 is not good
Guess u have never heard of how rebellious teenage girls are and how they go above and beyond to not listen to their parents 😅.
@@Masterk1988as a man who watched his teenage sister grow up they think there invincible and nothing can go wrong they will go out of there way to prove you wrong it’s kinda scary
@@-beelzebub right? I didn't have any sisters but I have a lot of cousins that are around my age and growing up just wow some of the stuff they would do regardless of what their parents would do to try and stop them.
@@Masterk1988 it’s a losing battle man gotta watch em like a darn hawk
Whats sad is that this probably doesnt even reflect on their parenting. I'm 16. My mom is lenient asf. My dads a bit more helicopter, but only has visitation rights. I'm always concerned for the other kids in my class are going through. I've heard way too much crap about vaping, sex and stuff that's just straight up immoral. Deadass heard someone talk about how they watched their friend take advantage of a drunk girl. And another guy is lying to his gf that he's 19 when he's only 16.
The most rebellious thing I've been doing is going to the park for 20 minutes after school to unwind against my moms wishes and telling her that the buss comes a little late. And procrastination, that probably has something to do with ADHD. And the most rebellious thing I've aspired to do is steal out of a crispy cream dumpster. Y'know, crap that wouldn't hurt anyone.
The crap they get up to makes me scared for what I would have become if I were a more social and outgoing person, this type of behavior gotta be influenced by friends.
I think this because sometimes I look at how much fun they seem to be having, feel envious, and wonder if I'm waisting my youth. But then I listen to what girls are always crying about in our bathrooms (strangely frequent occurrence) and I realise that, no. I'm not growing up too slow, they are just going too fast.
Yeah... You failed your child and decided to "do right" by the child that was easier to deal with, the baby. Just call cps and be a hero! Meanwhile your kid that was your full responsibility and you needed to do more for is struggling.
Everyone scumbags
Grandpa did the proper thing. This is when CPS is actually needed.
It's a super sucky situation though because she obviously WANTED her baby, but just lacks the financial means to take care of him.
@@Brit626I agree bc op is already working maximum mom is on disability and she’s working part time but it’s not a lot of help of financially support they should’ve charged child support
Bro i dont get it why some children want to ruin there childhood by having a baby like do they dont want a career or better life.......🙄
Children are stupid sometimes. That thought probably didn't even cross her mind.
@milkshakeyaoiyaoiyay3368 I don't think a child is that stupid at the age of 15...... Like she knew about intimacy.
@@baaakkkaaaaa I'm not sure how long you've been out of highschool but children are unbelievably dumb sometimes.
@@milkshakeyaoiyaoiyay3368 bro I am in highschool,( last year). I am not from America and I have never seen kids stupid like American kids........have they ever heard of condoms.......🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄stop defending these stupid children who don't the consequences of their actions......
@@milkshakeyaoiyaoiyay3368 yk there is time for everything like when to focus on career and when to have kids....
This same man will be upset when the daughter puts him in a home or atops talling to them once she moves out
Better than letting a child die because the girl wanted to play parent without understand the meaning of the Word
She ain't paying for his home. He better figure it out himself since he can't be bothered to be a parent.
Wait. Did you not hear the story at all? He gave her options even though they were financially struggling with a disabled person and she still went ahead to have the child. On top of that, she was neglecting the child. What was he supposed to do? Allow the child to grow up in a broken home with a neglectful mother who is ALSO a child herself?
The daughter fucked up and got pregnant as a teenager wtf is wrong with expecting her to behave like a parent, she's the one who is to blame not the father
You did right by for ur grandchild but did u do right to ur daughter. Did u try talking to her first. Get her some therapy for this ordeal? Get her some support group? Or just have father and daughter moment?
He said he's struggling and barely getting by financially and you're talking about "gEt hEr tHerApY" lmfao how out of touch are you
@@lifematch dude, therapy cost $100+ a session. Where do expect OP to find that?
@@kitsumekat I’m Canadian and in Canada you can get Psychotherapy that is funded by OHIP.
@@pessimist583 You do know most developed countries has universal healthcare? In Canada psychotherapy is covered by OHIP.
@@lifematch and I'm American who has to pay for it. Even if OP can get her in, it's going to be a nightmare for him to keep her in therapy.
Wow so instead of helping your kid, who is VERY CLEARLY STRUGGLING, you decide to make her struggle even worse and potentially make your grandchilds life even worse. The foster system is not kind.
He can help, he alredy has to take care of a sick wife and a Daughter not that Smart. If You can't take care of your children dosen't have them, don't expect your parents take care of them For You.
@@xCoatlicuex well by the way he was talking about her I doubt this man cares about his daughter let alone loves her, if he truly did he would've made sure she knew it, so she wouldn't get pregnant by the first boy to tell a pretty lie. People let your children know you love them, I didn't have a rebellious teenage phase, you know why? Because everyday my parents give me hugs and tell me they love me not just through their words but through their actions as well, you need to make sure that your child knows that you have their best interests at heart so they don't go sleeping around at 15 getting pregnant.
Okay but the Mother is disabled and that would be irresponsible to make her care for a baby and the Father is barely making it home from all the hours of work and barely having enough money to pay the bills. They ARE HELPING by making sure the baby is fed, bathed, and clothed but it doesn't means they can afford to do that forever either. And their kid dropped out of school to work but leaving a dipper in for too long can cause rashes and infections leading to UTIs. The baby could become sick from that and that's another payment they can't afford, thus they can't afford to give that child a proper home to begin with. I believe that putting the baby up for adoption would be better. It might not be great, the system is a hard one but at least the baby can be cared for by a munch of adults and maybe adopted to a good family that can give them a good future. And I say this as someone who's been on the system btw.
1) the girl was neglecting a baby 2) The teen shouldn’t be a mom at 15. And her actions shows why. 3) Seeing OP’s circumstances, they did the right thing because how dare the teen mom be reckless and the OP have to suffer the consequences?
I’m all for supporting teen moms, I’m not for supporting idiots or teen pregnancy.
@xCoatlicuex I'm 23 I have an almost 8 month old. My parents help me out when I need a babysitter they're there grandparents should help out as my grandparents help my parents when I was little and ill obviously do the same it takes a village as they say.
Find the father, go to court with him, get the money. The daughter probably knows who he is and can find him in a year book.
Sad you failed your daughter and now your grandson. You know you went too far that's why you feel guilty.
NTA. Good!!! 15 years wild too 😅
Hell she had horrible parents she was doomed from the start . Then instead of stepping in he calls cps
What are they supposed to do? They can't afford to live themselves much less another baby. Perhaps she could had kept her legs closed, how about that.
What can he do? They can barely afford to take care of themselves, never mind the extra mouth... It sucks, but it's the only option. She can go for an open adoption, and hopefully be in her baby's life as he grows up.
@LookingGlass69 how about actually helping her? He bitches about being tight on money but makes no mention about helping her apply for the probably countless programs that could help her. Snap, WIC, child support, welfare, etc. He may also be entitled to benefits for his own daughter through his wife's disability. He's a garbage parent. All he cares about is forcing his postpartum child into full-time labor but somehow magically take care of a baby alone.
@nibbles2734 she was strong and independent to get a creampie but not to apply to those programs herself. Funny how that works.
@@LookingGlass69so why you not keeping the same energy with the baby's daddy? He needs to be held responsible too. It takes two to tango.
1) Op is poor and already works crazy hours for barely any money
2) Op's wife is disabled
3) Daughter is irresponsible
4)Op clearly stated at the beginning that he worked far too long hours to completely support his daughter and would do the bare legal minimum due to his schedule
5) I personally believe that it wasn't Op's fault. In the end, even if Op taught the daughter to wait till 18 or more for having kids, it was her choice to do the erm... Thing and he shouldn't be held accountable for his daughter's choices when stating during the pregnancy he wouldn't be able to support her with his pay. If there is anyone to blame, its the daughter and father of the op's grandkid.
I be he didn't even bother to teach her about sex ed, otherwise she wouldn't be pregnant in the first place.
@nidohime6233 what 15 year old doesn't know about sex
She had choices and she made one, you'll feel guilty but you're not wrong, now it's your decision as to what you do put your grandson in foster care or take on the responsibility. No one knows what her reaction will be, will she shape up and be a better mother if he's taken or will not learn anything from her decisions if you take full responsibility for the child... you can't tell what the outcome will be, it's up to you as to what should be done....
Abort the Mission clesrly would've been the best option post the fact. CPS, foster care, the high potential of not being adopted by decent people is a nightmare way of existence for a young life. Unwanted children don't fare well in this world.
As if the child services actually give the babies to better families.
This was a no win situation, I feel like you did the right thing but I get why you feel the way you do
You let your anger get in the way of caring for your daughter. She gets to decide what to do with her body, but as she was 15, you still have a responsibility to take care of her and you've forgotten that. You could have reacted better and stopped her from spiralling downwards into a hole she cant get out of alone. She didnt become not your problem just because she had a child.
How the hell does your logic work??
- Its her body, she can do what she wants
- You have to take accountability fot her actions
If its her body, her choice, then its her choice, her responsibility.
She was neglecting her child and OP made the decision to call CPS to help. He is the sole breadwinner of the family and told her before birth that he cannot support a child financially.
@coreymeredith4001 I never said the parents were 'accountable' for her actions or responsible for her child. I said that *she* is still an underage child and they still have a responsibility to take care of *her*. Underage children don't stop being underage children the day they give birth, and having a grandchild doesnt absolve the parents of their responsibility to their child. Her parents neglected her because they were angry at her. Read the words I actually said, not words you made up to misinterpret my intention.
İf the other Man is like 18+ he is going to jail
You did the right thing.
And anti-choicers wonder why we say that bringing a baby to the world isn't always the right choice.
I mean just cause the baby’s parents made some shitty decisions doesn’t mean the baby has to pay for that by dying.
@@Starlight06 Literal babies, or fetuses?
@@pokemonsonicgirl123 Doesn’t matter, it’s a living breathing organism. Why should it pay for someone else’s poor choices?
@@Starlight06 Yes it does. And you can't punish someone who doesn't exist.
@@pokemonsonicgirl123 How doesn’t it exist when it’s literally right there growing in the mom’s womb
This is what I hate about these situations, the girl could have given up the child to a couple that could have loved him for his entire life, but she keeps him and neglected him just for CPS to take it away anyway.
Hard choices made. I prefer the baby stay with parent but im sure youd have seen the signs.
So you're saying that your 15 year daughter got pregnant and instead of supporting her you gave her the ultimatum to either abort the baby of fend for herself? I think the daughter is the one who need child service more than the baby
He barely makes enough money to support himself, his ill wife who can't work, and their daughter. What did you want him to do. Cut back on hours and make them all homeless?
Wow OP failed his daughter big time , no way should his child be bringing up a child . 😪😪
I know that feeling, of doing the right thing, but bretraying them, it comes at a greater outcome at the cost of trust❤
thats what happens when people think fetuses are same as babies
They are. Its just a name given to know the stage of the kids development.
Not even doctors consider a fetus less human or a different species.
A fetus is just a name of the stage the human is in development. Like toddler and newborn. It doesn't remove the value or remove its humanhood
@@glensiembida1888 can you really say it experienced humanhood if it never had a thought before? we are human because we think and feel. fetus can feel only after 24-25 weeks and they start developing some form of consciousness at 24-28 weeks. itll never be same as a newborn or baby even if its same species as us
@@glensiembida1888 i never claimed theyre diffrent species
@@ap4tite In recent years, modern medicine has revealed the truth about unborn babies, overwhelmingly confirming that an unborn baby is human. Even “Pro-abortion” biologists agree
I would never do that to my child and grandchild. I would help anyway i could. Not just the legal bare minimum. Awful parents.
As you can't cope yourself why would you expect your daughter to be able to cope? She's still a child herself.
She needed more support than just a roof over her head.
The baby is the most vunerable so must obviously be cared for.
...CPS will also be looking into you and your wife regarding if you adequate enough t care f vunerable 15yr old!
They may just offer her a placement with her baby....
Whatever happens you have ensured the end of your relationships as father and grandfather. .
I hope they do offer her a placement with her baby. Obviously her parents don't give a shit about her. She could use some parenting while she learns to be a parent. She seems like she is trying since she dropped out to work and takes care of her baby solo.
@@nibbles2734there's no trying you either do or don't.
You cabt afford it don't have it
So you failed as a parent and blame the child wtf dropping out of school
He never said he blames his child
Where is the blame because he never blamed hisdaughter?? He said he was terrified for his daughter. I think your projecting brother and not taking the fathers already existing struggles into account, nor are you holding the young mother accountable for her role in have and neglecting a baby she chose to keep and give birth to. We in the us are so spoiled that we forget that other countries 15 -17 is considered adult age and responsibilities are expected. Even young mothers around her age don’t get three choices in other countries they only have one choice and that is to keep and raise the baby. The truth is in America, we’ve allowed the sexualization of minors and has lost our morals and values when it comes to sexual compulsion and have just allowed to except degenerate ways from people who claim to want acceptance, but only want to influence and bully others to not only approve but also indoctrinate
@andrewwilson3963 how did he fail as a parent though? How is it his fault that his child got pregnant at 15? He even have her options on how to go about the pregnancy and she STILL went ahead with the pregnancy knowing FULL WELL that her family is financially struggling, has a disabled mom and a father who has odd working hours and cannot be present. She STILL went ahead to have the child knowing she was still in school and having a baby and working at the same time would be difficult. She made all these decisions herself, so how did they fail her? Because I remember fully well the father said they would only help based on what is LEGALLY required, so no, they didn't fail as parents. She chose to have the child knowing fully well all these were laid out to her
@kora9591 murder isn't a choice she is 15 a child her getting pregnant and having her dad tell her to either murder the baby or deal with it is shitry parenting.
@@andrewwilson3963 actually abortion isn’t illegal depending where u are
Edit- Also the dad said she had 3 option have the baby adopted raise the baby with the parent providing legal requirements or abort the baby she chose the most difficult choice
YTA why would you call those people instead of stepping in and helping your daughter if you’re so concerned? How does calling child services benefit in anyway? She can’t afford diapers so she delays diaper change. How about you help her get some diapers🤦🏽♀️
With what money? They are already struggling financially as is. He is working himself to death to make sure they have a roof over their heads, food on the table, lights, running water and heat. Where is the outrage for the idiot that knocked her up and then split
Just wait until the update of him getting investigated by cps for the truancy, forcing her to work less than a month postpartum, etc. or him sending her away
He doesn't deserve to have neither the daughter, nor his grandchild.
Why?
Why? Because he clearly stated that they warned her and even layer down options but she still heeded to have the child even when they were financially struggling as well as the mother being disabled. So how is he the AH in this situation?
@@kora9591 I never said he was.
Maybe stop spuring out long enough to get your thoughts across kid.
@ZaxTax-h8t ??? But I wasn't replying to you though. I was replying to the main comment
@@kora9591 k.
Ayo, she was working full time and doing the best she could. They’re the truly neglectful ones here.
If they knew she was skipping feedings and diapers because she had no choice because she had no money, they should have helped. They could have helped and they didn’t.
I don't think you understand. They said part time not Full time. Full time means she would be relying on her parents to care for the kid while she works meaning feedings and diaper changes would not be missed. Part time it's all on her with minor help from her parents. Plus they explicitly said that they wouldn't be helping. And before you reply with "BuT iTs ThErE GrAnDkId ThEy sHoUlD bE hElPiNg AnYwAy!" Keep in mind the wife is on disability and the OP is working ungodly hours just to keep them afloat and explicitly said they would NOT be helping financially and before you say "WhAt AbOuT pHiScAlLy?" The wife is on disability and the dad is working a lot. The child would be in a potentially worse situation. Yes I know she's barely scraping by but so are her parents!
To put this in perspective. Your struggling financially and your 15 year old child tells you she's pregnant meaning another person to feed clothe and provide for and you told them you would not be able to help. And then upon seeing that the way things are going your grandkid is in potential danger. And your only option to help is CPS. Would you make the call? They had to, and despite knowing it's for the best it's tearing them up inside.
@@GameOn-vr3zxum no? Part time means significantly less money so where the fuck is that money coming from to pay for diapers and formula? They wont pay for any of that and you cant get water from a dry well. She was not trying to hurt her son but she literally didn’t have the money. She can’t drive either, so if she wants to go to a food pantry her parents need to drive her or find someone else who can do it.
The baby’s mother needs to consider what is best for him. That’s what a good mother does.
What an ass what sick kind of parent/grandparent wouldn’t help their kid and grandkid even if I was barley getting by myself I’d never call cps if they’re living under my roof Its still my job to take care of them
No one wants to accept that the teenager made a choice and she had to deal with the consequences. They are a poor family. They didn't have the money to take care of another person.
She's trying. Can't you see? When she gets better or gets a better job, she'll be a good mother so yta
Or she will have a dead baby - she isnt feeding the baby when she should so she can save money. She isn't changing the baby to
So the baby should just wait for that day while sitting in dirty diapers? the teen is the AH for not thinking about the consequences of her actions, for deciding to keep the baby too and not at the very least give it up for adoption because she knows she can't give it what it needs.
This is a real baby, she's not just playing house
@katie5920 CPS should take the daughter and the baby
It is financially hard to take care of ourselves and another human being and having a baby and teenagers don’t fully understand what it truly is. Take care of a baby. I didn’t know until I had my child. I think that a little more help or helping to teach the daughter a little bit better might help, this kid drive a child completely out of your house and completely out of your life. You need to think what is more important if your daughter has the part-time job why can’t she pay for the move needs in that part-time job and you continue to pay what you’re paying for her yet she made a mistake. You gave her the option of keeping the baby thoughas her parent responsible the same time
What's the first thing she made it looks good
You aren't wrong, but don't expect your daughter to ever forgive you if she finds out. This the type of thing you take to the grave
She knows already
15... she is a child herself and your responsibility 😒 😢 not everyone needs to procreate, if you don't have the means to take care of another human why bring them into this world for pain and suffering? 😢
They didn't bring that baby into the world, their immature kid did.
You should not have let her quit school. You should have taught her better to begin with. You should be guilty, and you need to give her an apology for your own neglect in her training. The fact that op recommended abortion first for his own grandchild tells me that he neglected moral training first of all. The one area of training that could have kept all of this from happening. That hard call would never have been necessary but better late than never, I suppose, and at least you get a grandchild out of this.
no wonder she struggled. she’s still a child and you expect her to raise another child entirely on her own.
Because she made a mature decision to keep the baby, KNOWING she couldn't care for it properly. My sister did the same thing when my niece, ALSO fifteen, had her first baby. You know what my niece did? She got herself a job, hired a baby sitter, and busted her ass to graduate and get a better job.
Now, my niece is graduated, has had a couple more babies since then, and has her own place.
There are many issues in this case, and all of them are due to the fact that they are treading the poverty line.
-- Mom is disabled and gets social security checks. I wouldn't want her taking care of a baby if she can barely take care of herself. Mom can't watch the baby while OP and their daughter are at work.
-- OP works, and odd hours at that. He can't take care of the baby either.
-- Then, we have a fifteen year old girl who is undereducated, making minimum wage, and is likely neglecting her own hygiene and sleep to take care of her son.
She loves her boy, it's obvious they all do, but sometimes, love isn't enough. As sucky as it is, OP made the right call. His child doesn't have the financial means to take care of a baby when she is undereducated.
She wanted a child after given three options.
She should not expect someone else to constantly be there to raise her kid.
@kitsumekat id agree with you if we were talking about someone in their twenties but this is a literal teenager who is struggling. She’s supposed to still be dependent on her parents, she is still a child and I think it’s insane to expect her to be able to just raise a kid entirely on her own.
@Brit626 I agree, I’m just saying OP should have expected this and I feel bad for the girl because she’s still a child herself who is struggling and is barely getting any support from her parents while expected to be a parent herself.
@@Cal-fb7we that's the consequence of playing the big people's game. She lay down and made that baby. These are her consequences.
Omg why do people think he should raise a child he never intended or agreed to have. Hes responsible for her. Not her baby
The baby is only 2 months old, not 10 months old. The girl is 15 with a baby so there's so many resources she could have applied for. She clearly couldn't afford diapers. Did they make sure she went to apply for WIC, food stamps, TEA, and other thing? If she wasn't directed to those resources first, then yta. Although she's clearly out there doing adult thing, she's still a child. She needs help
"We didnt raise you like that, why would you raise yours like this"
And when she goes to tell him why he was given up all of the blame will be put on the grandparents.
"doing what's best for my grandson", but he just said that it was unfortunate that his daughter decided to keep the baby.
She should hate you because you could’ve supported her
Are you his accountant? How do you know what he can and cannot afford?
@@quinton01And what could a 15 year old provide by herself too? In order to give the baby a decent living, they should be helping each other. Teenager preganancy is no joke, there's only so much to consider other than "the daughter is a sl*t and should take all the responsability"
@@quinton01medicaid. Food pantries. Wic. Snap. Tanf. Pregnancy resource centers (they provide financial material & emotional support to new parents and their babies). Local churches. Many other local charities. Buy nothing groups. Extreme couponing. Selling anything that isnt an absolute necessity. Asking friends and family for help. Its hard but it’s possible
If your daughter has a baby at 15, you did some neglecting yourself at one point.
What disability is it that your wife have that can't look after her own grandson at home for a couple of hours? The daughter was trying hard and was possibly with post partum depression! She got a job and a new born to look after, come on! Where are her grandparents?! How come nobody went to court over this and demand child support from her ex's family? If I was her father I'd have been out for justice and blood 💀
why does it matter what disability the wife has, it was not her decision to give birth = not her responsibility to care for that child. grandparents are not free babysitters, they have their own life and needs to take care of, especially if they have disability
@rinipork that teen lives with her parents, what happened to the "it takes a village to raise a child"??? She got a job and stepped up already, she can't be at 2 places at the same time! Her father works too, so it's left one person to look after the baby. Why can't she change diapers or give a bottle of formula to that baby? Is she tetraplegic and that unable to care for her grandson?? Calling CPS only fucked up their daughter (whom they already failed by letting her sleep around tbh) and now they are separated from their grandson too who is only a few months old who is left with the system.
@@battlesister1559and then dad did what's best for everyone and put it up for adoption.
Daughter ca go back to school and the kid will be taken care of.
Stop thinking purely on emotion and use your tiny brain for once in your life.
I don’t know… Keep in mind she is 15 and taking care of a child a very big responsibility! But what she did isn’t excusable so… idk
I wish CPS would give funds to family memebers to raise the children
This is why kids get traumatized and hate their parents. You refused to help and called cps shes 15 your wife could at least help her ir tlk her through motherhood. Adoption or abortion traumatic. As parents yall should be locked up she got pregnant on yall watch. This disgusts me i would nvr betray my child like this. If yall helped her with finding resources she could finish school and work part-time. Yall are dooming her to a life of brokenness
@@kpalmer7044 did you hear the story at all? Wife is disabled and he works odd jobs at all Hours. They physically and financially can't help because of their own crappy situation.
@@Cherries2249notice the douche canoe doesn’t specify what her disability actually is. It doesn’t sound like she is bedridden, unconscious, or brain damaged if she is capable of caring for her grandson a few hours at a time. Being unable to work can be due to all kinds of things and most people with disabilities are capable of being caring, attentive, safe, competent caregivers. Just because she has a disability doesn’t necessarily mean she cannot help with her grandson and it sounds like in this situation she can but op is mad because he hates his daughter and wants to punish her for getting pregnant and not being willing to kill her child or give him away (both are extremely difficult for many )
These kinda stories always make me wonder how non-existent is sex ed there?
If he was better parents, she wanna rent a young boy and got in that situation.It's all your fault for not being a good parent
I am conflicted..but i am leaning towards calling him an AH. His daughter is still a child and that's true but her situation was very complicated yet she still tried to be there for her baby. It's so overwhelming to take care of a newborn, especially being a kid yourself and especially having no partner. She must have still been not fully recovered from the birth and yet she had to step up as a parent. And now her father's trying to separate her from her child she obviously wants. He should have been offering more support and care instead of calling cps. If he cared about his daughter and grandsom, he would never do that. While she was still learning to accept her new life, which extremely difficult as it is, she sill was there for the kid. Neglect? Maybe. Yet how should she know how to do things properly when he doesn't teach her? And why didn't he help her financially to cover diapers expenses? I really don't understand. I can't imagine muself being a single teen mom but i know for a fact that my mother, bless her soul, would have offered me her kind support and help. She is a single mom and managed to brought up me on my own while my family was in such a debt collectors were banging on our door and threatening to take me. She had an option, she was suggested giving me up for adoption but her endless love proved she couldn't do that and she didn't. She was not a teenager, she was 25 but so inexperienced in life (long story of my abusive family member nobody is interested in). My mom is still my main supporter and the person who loves me unconditionally. Yet OP forbidding his daughter to love her kid and his grandson to know and love his mother. He might find a wealthier house but can it really worth not knowing the person who gave birth to you and loved you while dealing with teen motherhood? He might not find a foster family and be left in the system til he's 18 - and we all know what can happen in those places. Is the risk worth it? I'm not sure. Why i gave my mom's story is because it shows that no matter how hard the circumstances are, it can still be pulled off. I really don't think OP is in such a position when they barely make their ends meet and i do believe if he genuinely love his daughter and grandson, he would never do what he did. He'll break the daughter's heart and she'll never forgive him if she loses the kid. Life is hard but turning your back on the family is so cruel and wrong
Hope the kid os taken. The grandparents couldnt raise their own kid. Their kid was neglecting the baby. None of them deserve that baby.
Needed to be done your daughter can't even look after herself let alone that little baby boy who deserves a better start in life.
Always do whats best for the kids
OP's daughter is 15, a minor, and too young to raise a child. OP did what is best for his grandson.
Daughter may feel betrayed and angry, but as she grows, she'll understand that OP did what was best for the baby and for her.
If you did the right thing you would not recommend ending your grandchild or send them off to foster care... I could not do that.
It may do you some good to learn more about the conditions some children grow up in. I certainly would have been better off being placed in foster care as an infant rather than staying with my mother. As a foster parent myself now, I take pride in providing a healthy, stable home for kids. It has provided them and their mothers the space and time to develop healthier bonds.
Poor kids. It's for the better if the baby gets adopted, but I'm sure that girl really loves her son. She's just too young and ill equipped right now.
I mean, what did he expect when he refused to support her more than the absolute bare minimum? Shes a kid herself and he blatantly told her she either abort, give her baby away, or raise him without her parenta support???? And now hes acting surprised that she struggled???? Be realistic for a second. He KNEW she wouldn't be able to do this alone. He KNEW she would struggle. Yet he choose to sit back and watch, then have her baby taken from her when she obviously wasn't able to do this alone???
Its no wonder he feels guilty. He knows he failed his daughter and grandson. He didn't "do the right thing" by calling CPS. If he actually wanted to do the right thing he would have supported her to the best of your ability, which he clearly didn't as he said in the post he told her he would only do the bare minimum legally required. She did her best. She dropped out of school and got a job, even if it is only part time she's 15!!! What did he expect her to do?? Did he honestly think anyone was going to hire a 15yr old for any decent full time position? Much less one that would allow her to solely support her child???
I wouldn't be surprised if she went no contact when she moves out. He set her up for failure from the beginning, sat back and neglected her and her baby, and then had the audacity to have her baby taken away and act like shes some POS mom who didn't care when she very clearly did. If she ever forgives him I'd be genuinely shocked. She had her baby taken away, despite the fact she was trying her damn best to care for him. I can't even begin to imagine the pain she is suffering right now. Losing her baby, being betrayed by her own father, and now wondering and fearing for her babys safety and well being.
It's common knowledge that the foster system is cruel and fucked up. Kids have been abused and killed in the system and that's what he sent his grandson into because he expected a 15 year old to be able to raise a baby alone. SMDH. He should feel guilty and ashamed.
I'm surprised CPS didn't remove her from the home as well, since she was obviously being neglected too. Honestly, they should've taken her and the baby to a place where she would actually be supported and receive the help they needed instead of being forced to be a 15yr old single mom, forced to drop out of highschool and get a job to try to support herself and a newborn, despite her father knowing she wouldn't be able to due to her age and sitting back watching her fail without providing any support whatsoever.
Edit to add: Before anyone comes for me, yeah I heard the grandmother was on disability and his job wasn't substantial. That doesn't mean what he did was okay in any way. It doesn't mean he's in the right for neglecting his daughter and her son by refusing to help them any more than hes "legally required to", which he obviously didn't even do. She's 15. He knowingly and willingly set her up for failure and now wants to act like the victim because she's, rightfully, upset with him.
She's 15...help her, teach her...I think you're a horrible parent and grandparent
They're great grandparents for calling CPS
That baby needs real parents not a 15 year old neglectful mother and an absent dad
@@katie5920he wont get real parents. He’ll likely get pos people who only want the money. Risk of neglect, physical abuse, and sexual abuse are much higher in foster homes
Good luck having relationship with your daughter now😔
You did the right thing. You called CFS to ensure your grandchild had someone to care for your grandchild
Why not in this case sit down and tell it isn't working and looking for an adoption home with her, why call CPS? It's like he's punishing and shaming her for not being able to shoulder a responsibility he always knew would break her
Ya because as we all know the system is full of the best people not abusive or neglectful at all... you're as bad of a grandparent as a parent evidently. You feel guilty because you're doing something awful and your conscience knows it. You're her parents and should have insisted on adoption in the first place.
That is tough, geeah. Well I'll say this if you move with love and care everything will be fine. ❤ Moving with malice and I'll intenion? May God bless you.
Never call cps, especially on your own kid. wtf heartless parents