They indeed saved Jing Yuan because they wan to slaughter him again in a much grander scale with the summon meta, with better kitted units like Aglea and Castorice. Trust me nothing.....no unit in HSR is safe from powercreep)
Im a day 1 f2p player and i uninstalled after the latest moc. I was able to consistently 36 star moc until this one, and seeing my invested acheron and jingliu teams not be able to 3 star moc 12 was very frustrating. I still think hsr is a good game but i dont see the powercreep issue slowing down anytime soon with rememberance path and amphoreus characters on the horizon, which is why i decided to call it quits now
I completely agree with you; the insane HP inflation this MoC shocked me as well. I hope they work something out with this for F2P players like you because its really getting out of control.
@@Saberdud Yup. I pulled Lingsha when my account was like 2 months old at a time when I was struggling.... Lingsha is an apex sustain and she saved my account and is on almost every single team I have for the last 4 months. Can't imagine what I would have done without her.... wait another month for Aventurine?
tbh newer players are in a better spot than old players. old players who listened to content creators hype up bad characters on their release (even though no one could have predicted those chars falling off later) and invested resources into them basically bricked their accounts. New characters can pull with better data and invest resources much better
I mean you can still clear with 4* only, it’s just not fun like other games because you need DDD and very high investment. These clears have always been available on Bilibili. Part of the powercreep problem is also that the community makes the game seem much harder than it actually is. So I was thrown for a loop when i see the Asta DOT (No S1/E1), Sampo DOT, 2 cost DHIL clear fine. Seele even clears off element Svarog without eidolons (the trotters are an excuse btw, she will clear with a different buff). This is when I realized the HP problem is much smaller than it actually is. And the community had fallen for the FOMO tactics. the company WANTS you to think you can’t clear without E1 Robin. They want you to think you need to pull a new limited dps every other patch. In reality the bar is far lower. I also do not agree with some of these takes. What do you mean you want to clear using an ancient dps and no LC/Eidolon? Why do we keep enforcing these bans against fun and damage? On a character from almost two YEARS ago. If you have no support eidolons or LCs for Seele it means you never cared to play her. I’m wondering if these players are enforcing a self imposed challenge where they never pull a new dps and never improve their older dps either. What happened to growing the account?
There’s a lot of factors that impact the “powercreep” in hsr and just like you said in theory you can clear with 4* only but at the cost of what? Cracked relics where you spend months farming for or tons of planning+retries to calculate the amount of rng it takes. No sane player would do that unless it’s a content creator.
I was never able to get any of the limited support characters either due to me quitting for months on end and never actually having the resources to get pity on them when I would come back to pull for them or losing 50/50 if I did get a 5 star so now even with the herta I'm struggling to clear content other players would consider easy
Yeah, it sucks for players in your situation that didn't get the 5* supports and thus, need to either struggle to clear content or HIGHLY invest into even 4* to get just close to the 5* options. . .
@@kokkroplayzgacha gallagher is actually helping abit on one of my teams but my other teams needs 2 supports to not get destroyed and its annoying and even with Gallagher if he gets cc'd by a boss that does a ton of damage or attacks 5 times in a row I'm kinda cooked
Word. I'm pretty new to HSR (started in August 2024) so I am just realizing these issues now as I finally reach end-game. It's a shame that the characters I actually like (e.g., Blade, Seele, Bronya, Kafka, DHIL) are just not that great in the new end-game or in general outside the end-game... Why would I ever use e.g. DHIL when Rappa is in the game? Her super last 3 turns (not 1) and she ignores weaknesses. Why would I ever use Kafka when I have Acheron who ignores weaknesses, cannot lose energy and does more damage? It's not even about "I can still clear". It's about "do I want this fight to be harder or easier?" or "do I want the fight to time 10 minutes or 2 minutes?" Then I don't actually like the personality of the META characters. I think Ruan Mei is a B!tch. She f**king poisons you when you first meet her for no reason aside from she can... Similarly, I hate Feixiao's character/personality, and I think Rappa's persona is cringe.... but we're supposed to use them even they're unlikeable? Is Hoyo really pushing bad personality into META characters on purpose? It's like they don't want me to pull.
@@yamechitiyo8410 Agreed. :) It's purely my take on whether I like them. I don't think the characters are poorly written, and they're consistent in their personality/journey.
Barely 9% of the players care about MoC or endgame content in general, it doesn't even give you enough stellar jades for a couple of pulls, it's literally out of pride to put your characters into test, besides there is people out there making 0 cycle videos with 4 stars supports and Seele, it goes to show that this powercreep "issue" is not an issue at all, I have consistently played since day one, completely free to play, and they are quite generous to the point you can freely choose and pull for who you like, my superbreak team is busted, and now my second team will be as well since I will pull for Aglaea, that will pair perfectly with my Sunday E1.
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until they lock break bars, break meta is the only one "more or less" confy in this crazy powercreep meta
For sure, fundamentally its super strong but still concerning how much they forced the meta and it can be easily countered. . .
Let's not assume that they aren't increasing the enemy defence as well... Sometimes it feels this way in the end game.
if they save jing yuan, they can save the other units, except arlan cause he's black
WOW that last part 😭, but for sure old characters can be strong if given a really specific support tuned to them like Jingyuan did!
They indeed saved Jing Yuan because they wan to slaughter him again in a much grander scale with the summon meta, with better kitted units like Aglea and Castorice. Trust me nothing.....no unit in HSR is safe from powercreep)
Im a day 1 f2p player and i uninstalled after the latest moc. I was able to consistently 36 star moc until this one, and seeing my invested acheron and jingliu teams not be able to 3 star moc 12 was very frustrating. I still think hsr is a good game but i dont see the powercreep issue slowing down anytime soon with rememberance path and amphoreus characters on the horizon, which is why i decided to call it quits now
I completely agree with you; the insane HP inflation this MoC shocked me as well. I hope they work something out with this for F2P players like you because its really getting out of control.
Word.
I'm pretty new to HSR (started in August 2024) so I am just realizing these issues now as I finally reach end-game.
you gotta pull meta supports from what I've researched
@@Saberdud Yup. I pulled Lingsha when my account was like 2 months old at a time when I was struggling.... Lingsha is an apex sustain and she saved my account and is on almost every single team I have for the last 4 months.
Can't imagine what I would have done without her.... wait another month for Aventurine?
tbh newer players are in a better spot than old players. old players who listened to content creators hype up bad characters on their release (even though no one could have predicted those chars falling off later) and invested resources into them basically bricked their accounts. New characters can pull with better data and invest resources much better
The hame has not even been out for 2 years yet. They're going to not only force us out of the meta, they're going to force us out of the game.
I mean you can still clear with 4* only, it’s just not fun like other games because you need DDD and very high investment. These clears have always been available on Bilibili.
Part of the powercreep problem is also that the community makes the game seem much harder than it actually is. So I was thrown for a loop when i see the Asta DOT (No S1/E1), Sampo DOT, 2 cost DHIL clear fine. Seele even clears off element Svarog without eidolons (the trotters are an excuse btw, she will clear with a different buff).
This is when I realized the HP problem is much smaller than it actually is. And the community had fallen for the FOMO tactics.
the company WANTS you to think you can’t clear without E1 Robin. They want you to think you need to pull a new limited dps every other patch. In reality the bar is far lower.
I also do not agree with some of these takes. What do you mean you want to clear using an ancient dps and no LC/Eidolon? Why do we keep enforcing these bans against fun and damage? On a character from almost two YEARS ago. If you have no support eidolons or LCs for Seele it means you never cared to play her.
I’m wondering if these players are enforcing a self imposed challenge where they never pull a new dps and never improve their older dps either. What happened to growing the account?
There’s a lot of factors that impact the “powercreep” in hsr and just like you said in theory you can clear with 4* only but at the cost of what? Cracked relics where you spend months farming for or tons of planning+retries to calculate the amount of rng it takes. No sane player would do that unless it’s a content creator.
I was never able to get any of the limited support characters either due to me quitting for months on end and never actually having the resources to get pity on them when I would come back to pull for them or losing 50/50 if I did get a 5 star so now even with the herta I'm struggling to clear content other players would consider easy
Yeah, it sucks for players in your situation that didn't get the 5* supports and thus, need to either struggle to clear content or HIGHLY invest into even 4* to get just close to the 5* options. . .
@@kokkroplayzgacha gallagher is actually helping abit on one of my teams but my other teams needs 2 supports to not get destroyed and its annoying and even with Gallagher if he gets cc'd by a boss that does a ton of damage or attacks 5 times in a row I'm kinda cooked
Word. I'm pretty new to HSR (started in August 2024) so I am just realizing these issues now as I finally reach end-game. It's a shame that the characters I actually like (e.g., Blade, Seele, Bronya, Kafka, DHIL) are just not that great in the new end-game or in general outside the end-game...
Why would I ever use e.g. DHIL when Rappa is in the game? Her super last 3 turns (not 1) and she ignores weaknesses. Why would I ever use Kafka when I have Acheron who ignores weaknesses, cannot lose energy and does more damage? It's not even about "I can still clear". It's about "do I want this fight to be harder or easier?" or "do I want the fight to time 10 minutes or 2 minutes?"
Then I don't actually like the personality of the META characters. I think Ruan Mei is a B!tch. She f**king poisons you when you first meet her for no reason aside from she can... Similarly, I hate Feixiao's character/personality, and I think Rappa's persona is cringe.... but we're supposed to use them even they're unlikeable?
Is Hoyo really pushing bad personality into META characters on purpose? It's like they don't want me to pull.
Agreed with you until the last part. “Bad personality” is purely subjective
@@yamechitiyo8410 Agreed. :) It's purely my take on whether I like them. I don't think the characters are poorly written, and they're consistent in their personality/journey.
Actually in acherons case, she basically speed runs world mobs with 1 technique point.
Barely 9% of the players care about MoC or endgame content in general, it doesn't even give you enough stellar jades for a couple of pulls, it's literally out of pride to put your characters into test, besides there is people out there making 0 cycle videos with 4 stars supports and Seele, it goes to show that this powercreep "issue" is not an issue at all, I have consistently played since day one, completely free to play, and they are quite generous to the point you can freely choose and pull for who you like, my superbreak team is busted, and now my second team will be as well since I will pull for Aglaea, that will pair perfectly with my Sunday E1.
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