A Massive Steam Deck Upgrade - DeckHD In-depth Review

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
  • DeckHD is a new custom screen mod for the Steam Deck. It promises improved color accuracy and a 1200p resolution increase. In this in-depth review, we cover the installation process, how it stacks up against the stock Deck, and how the Deck performs at 1200p.
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    Intro / Unboxing - 00:00
    Installation / Tips & Advice - 00:48
    First Boot - 04:06
    Color Accuracy Deep Dive - 05:30
    Stock vs. DeckHD - 10:37
    Viewing Angles - 12:02
    Can the Deck game at 1200p? - 12:24
    Panel Benchmarks - 14:41
    Price & Thoughts - 17:57
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  • @TakiUdon
    @TakiUdon  10 месяцев назад +134

    Available here: store.deckhd.com/discount/taki-udon

    • @middle_pickup
      @middle_pickup 10 месяцев назад +6

      Do you think it would be possible for Valve to sell an upgrade motherboard with APU? Seems like they could upgrade the platform to ryzen 7000 without changing its layout.

    • @Chaosghoul
      @Chaosghoul 10 месяцев назад

      You mentioned a 15 fps drop on spiderman but unfortunately didn't have og screen performance numbers for the games you showed. Where you seeing similar reductions in those other games too?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  10 месяцев назад +5

      @@Chaosghoul you mean for Elden Ring and FF15? Elden Ring went from 43 to 30-32. FF15 went from 47 to 30.

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  10 месяцев назад +8

      @@middle_pickup it would be easier for a 3rd party company to sell a product like that. The problem is the cooling can't handle 7000 series.

    • @Chaosghoul
      @Chaosghoul 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@TakiUdon Yes, exactly this, thank you so much!

  • @electrofreak0
    @electrofreak0 10 месяцев назад +1468

    Honestly, I think I'd prefer a good OLED with 800p over another LCD with better res. Better yet, do it like Nintendo and take advantage of those big bezels to make the OLED screen a bit bigger than stock too. I doubt that is even possible, but if it is, I'd much prefer it. Having a Steam Deck with an 800p OLED 7.5" screen would be neat.

    • @aqyx
      @aqyx 10 месяцев назад +28

      I think it would come down to the game for me, for fast paced stuff I'd definitely prefer a lower res OLED but for playing slow paced games I'd prefer the higher res IPS

    • @cringeusername9705
      @cringeusername9705 10 месяцев назад +30

      Valve has said it isn’t possible to drop an oled in the deck.

    • @TinkerTaverns
      @TinkerTaverns 10 месяцев назад +97

      @@cringeusername9705 If I recall it was less about it being impossible and more about it not suiting their priorities with the steam deck. I think OLEDs typically draw more power, and obviously cost more. So given the cost and battery life implications, they stuck with a standard IPS

    • @patbateman69420
      @patbateman69420 10 месяцев назад +30

      ​@cringeusername9705 I don't remember them saying it was impossible, but I remember them saying that it wasn't as easy as people would think (eg. just dropping an OLED screen in).

    • @user-ds8rj2vc4v
      @user-ds8rj2vc4v 10 месяцев назад +20

      That's why I'm waiting for the Steam Deck 2. I'm hoping that it launches with an OLED screen.

  • @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ
    @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ 10 месяцев назад +332

    Steam decks are slowly becoming the real life ship of theseus

    • @DowneyMax
      @DowneyMax 10 месяцев назад +25

      And slowly, Steam Decks will be its replacement for philosophical inquiry

    • @fairphoneuser9009
      @fairphoneuser9009 10 месяцев назад +13

      So you build a new Steam Deck out of the replaced parts?

    • @KingVulpes
      @KingVulpes 10 месяцев назад +1

      Come back to me when you build a new steam deck

    • @Queldonus
      @Queldonus 10 месяцев назад +11

      Same as every gaming PC I’ve built.

    • @andremalerba5281
      @andremalerba5281 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Queldonussame applies for skateboards LOL
      The only part I still have from my first skateboard are the trucks

  • @hungryweeb69
    @hungryweeb69 10 месяцев назад +211

    Actually it's better to buy this when changing the entire shell for steam deck, so the old screen can be a backup and minimize the risk of breaking your original screen. So just remove everything from the old steam deck except the screen and just migrate everything to new custom shell and new screen. Hitting 2 bird with 1 stones, so it's much much easier for someone without any experience with fear of breaking the original screen

    • @monafairy99
      @monafairy99 10 месяцев назад +7

      You are so smart! thank you

    • @Queldonus
      @Queldonus 10 месяцев назад +3

      That’s brilliant. I’m doing this.

    • @noahbleam2805
      @noahbleam2805 10 месяцев назад +1

      This is what I plan to do

    • @Zorro_Nostalgico
      @Zorro_Nostalgico 10 месяцев назад +3

      I was actually just thinking of doing this. I refuse to take out the original screen and scraping out the adhesive

    • @Loanr
      @Loanr 10 месяцев назад +8

      This was also my idea but sadly you can't do that. Underneath the display are screws to get the metal main construction and battery out. Also there is another ribbon cable squished inbetween. Without removing the screen you can't fully switch shells.

  • @repinsvizios
    @repinsvizios 10 месяцев назад +184

    Another use case for it is if you, like me, play most games at 960x600, in order to improve performance/battery life, as that would make nearest neighbour scaling perfect. Right now, games look a little fuzzy at 540p/600p, due to scaling to 720p/800p.

    • @polar-star64
      @polar-star64 10 месяцев назад +20

      For the perfect upscaling, you're talking about integer scaling

    • @afsyah
      @afsyah 10 месяцев назад +2

      Did the same, play in 960x600 and enjoy long battery life 😄

    • @manuelfabris7541
      @manuelfabris7541 10 месяцев назад +3

      I run all games at 1280X800 with all settings turned off or down. Less than 800p looks blurry to my eyes

    • @iurigrang
      @iurigrang 10 месяцев назад

      Is there some reason to run the game at 540p/600p native instead of upscaling to 800p/1080p? I feel like most games that benefit from lower res have at least some taau implementation to take advantage of the higher res

    • @me77111
      @me77111 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@iurigrangdepends on the purpose for running at the lower resolution. You could do it simply for better battery life. Also you can do it for high end emulation to free up a little CPU power

  • @MsRmart999
    @MsRmart999 10 месяцев назад +60

    The couple of color issues with this screen really make it feel like they're oversaturating the screen at the factory, possibly leading to some things being inaccurate like the sand in DKC and the logo in Pokemon

    • @mnovaes
      @mnovaes 10 месяцев назад +7

      When looking at the color accuracy reference charts, DeckHD is actually much more accurate across the board, whites included, what seemed off was because of the inaccurate stock SteamDeck display used used as "reference" for white balance for instance.

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 10 месяцев назад

    I've been waiting for this. Hoping to see a bunch of these.

  • @SDLNEXUS
    @SDLNEXUS 10 месяцев назад

    Top video Taki, thank-you ! Surprised by the detail must have been a lot of work, but really helpful information.

  • @All_Things_Band
    @All_Things_Band 10 месяцев назад

    Wtg! First time visiting channel. Thank you for the great work.

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the effort I have yet to get a stream deck but this is very helpful and informative .

  • @Sebastian_Kaito
    @Sebastian_Kaito 10 месяцев назад +8

    We need a comparison of the Deck HD vs the stock screen with vibrantdeck installed.

  • @wingsfromheaven8788
    @wingsfromheaven8788 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing work on this comparison

  • @keepitshort4208
    @keepitshort4208 10 месяцев назад +2

    You have a shelf of decks
    I like the transparent one 👍🏼
    The colors are deep in background color and in the distant of the viewer (as further away colors are more vibrant)

  • @DaveAdams222
    @DaveAdams222 10 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for this, Taki! I was one of the OGs that signed up for the release announcement and was genuinely going to do this. Your video has helped me to pump the brakes a bit and wait to see what the community and "market" does when it comes to this mod. I think I'm also just so dang happy with my Deck as is (Cryo, Smokeless Overclock, PTM7950, JSAUX RGB Backplate, 1TB SSD) that I now don't see a need for the screen upgrade, especially with my ROG Ally sitting right next to it. I'll still consider this upgrade for later down the line, but for now, I'll just wait.

  • @marcusupshaw829
    @marcusupshaw829 10 месяцев назад

    Excellent work there. Very informative

  • @Mrfrerob
    @Mrfrerob 10 месяцев назад +10

    Great video Taki! As other have said I’m not looking to swap a screen for resolution upgrades but I would for a high quality OLED for better colors and black levels. That’s my only gripe with the deck. For demanding titles I still use my gaming PC.

  • @schlittytube
    @schlittytube 10 месяцев назад +44

    Sadly too many strings attached for me. I was really looking forward to more color and resolution given the types of games I play on Deck. I was the def within target audience. But they were originally advertising in the 90's before dropping to that 87%. Which, cool of them to be honest about the panels they ended up with but the leap ended up less. The loss of contrast, brightness and the whites hurts big time too. The gap ended up way more narrow. Too narrow. Then the BIOS stuff is rough. Understandable it is needed, cool they made a mostly seamless solution, but it needs to be open source full stop. Which they have yet to commit to last I heard. I don't want to rely solely on them to be around in perpetuity to always update it. I went from chomping at the bit back on announcement to lukewarm and likely spending that 100 elsewhere. Still a neat project. Cool to see they're pushing hard on the development end to get the most out of it. But it just didn't quite make it to the moon in the end.

    • @FoxbatStargazer
      @FoxbatStargazer 10 месяцев назад +3

      What “source” are you expecting. They are hacking valve’s bios. Like they can tell you where hex edits should go for a particular bios version. But then valve updates and they have to hunt for new locations again.
      Fingers crossed that steamos 3.5 is the solution, with it looking more hardware agnostic in many ways.

    • @schlittytube
      @schlittytube 10 месяцев назад

      @@FoxbatStargazer Fair enough. Hadn't heard it explained/framed in those terms. Perhaps they should explain it the same if it's accurate to the situation. Prior they've said they 'haven't decided' or at best are 'aiming to' when the open source question was asked. Obviously the dream solution is for Valve to just open it up on their end but as Taki said in the video; not something you should flat out bank on.

    • @maurice5402
      @maurice5402 10 месяцев назад

      Have you tried vibrantdeck for deck loader? It's definitely a big improvement

  • @allenfrisch
    @allenfrisch 10 месяцев назад +4

    It's nice to see that Taki's elves are still employed in his workshop!

  • @stevenhoule1866
    @stevenhoule1866 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you, very informative. I had wanted to do this mod but I probably won't upgrade unless something happens to my stock screen.

  • @RobStevens64
    @RobStevens64 10 месяцев назад +21

    Interesting video, Taki. I think the real advantage with the DeckHD screen would be running at 600p and scaled up. With perfect pixel doubling / scaling, this should allow you to get really great performance and better visuals (400p is way too low a starting point, 600p should be just barely acceptable for AI scaling like FSR). I think $99 is a good price for this. Now I just need someone I can pay to do this and a shell swap for me. 😅

  • @danhex
    @danhex 10 месяцев назад

    First video i have seen on the deck hd screen. Nice

  • @lieftheshinigami
    @lieftheshinigami 10 месяцев назад +5

    This is a cool option for people who want the higher resolution display, but in my opinion, that 800p display is the special sauce for the deck. Makes it to where the APU doesn't have to work as hard to play games, therefore improving performance and/or battery life. Personally, like many others, I'd prefer an 800p OLED drop-in, or a better quality 800p display over a higher-res screen.

    • @no-barknoonan1335
      @no-barknoonan1335 10 месяцев назад +1

      800p with better colors or OLED would be an almost immediate buy for me as well.

  • @retrobros9684
    @retrobros9684 10 месяцев назад

    Super cool helpers! ❤

  • @mr.bigmangames
    @mr.bigmangames 10 месяцев назад

    Whats the po int of this mod? Downgade your decks perfomance by 20-30%?

  • @xanastarYT
    @xanastarYT 10 месяцев назад +6

    I would love either a good VRR or OLED screen on the steam deck, but honestly can't imagine the performance tanking would be worth the res upgrade at all at the same screen size - maybe if we could get a bigger (smaller bezel) screen it would look nicer and the extra detail would be noticeable

  • @theish9
    @theish9 5 месяцев назад

    Well done. Very good content

  • @mrredoficial
    @mrredoficial 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great video. Suggestion: You should add text next to each comparison so we can identify which one you are talking about. At some point you switch the deck with the DeckHD to the top and I had not realized so it was a bit confusing. Thank you.

  • @charles2000wang
    @charles2000wang 7 месяцев назад +4

    Valve announced new OLED models making this upgrade obsolete.

    • @merouby
      @merouby 4 месяца назад

      No, as it still doesn't reach 1200p nor does 1080p like the DeckHD does - and it doesn't force you to sell your existing LCD deck

    • @mr.kenway4554
      @mr.kenway4554 3 месяца назад

      @@merouby But does it need 1200p

  • @ArtyShat
    @ArtyShat 10 месяцев назад +25

    Would have preferred a screen with smaller bezels, making it 7.5" or 8", still 800p but OLED and 120hz. That would be a perfect screen in my opinion in terms of performance and power consumption.

    • @kosztaz87
      @kosztaz87 10 месяцев назад +4

      Exactly my thoughts. I don't want higher resolution, I want amazing contrast and colours. And yes a size increase would also be good. So yeah, you described the perfect screen I would want too.

    • @kassperplus
      @kassperplus 10 месяцев назад

      totally agree, deck 2 must be like this or deck pro

  • @Jmcinally94
    @Jmcinally94 10 месяцев назад

    20:10 "...but it should be mentioned here" perfect edit!

  • @0525ohhwell
    @0525ohhwell 10 месяцев назад +5

    The heated bed on a 3d printer is also pretty solid for removing a screen.

  • @chedhead3278
    @chedhead3278 10 месяцев назад

    Cheers Taki. While not a slam dunk it is nice to see more choice in the expanding Steam Deck eco-system. In fact it gives me a warm glow 🤭

  • @beeseechurger
    @beeseechurger 10 месяцев назад +1

    I didn’t know Taki had 3 hands, that’s impressive. Probably helpful for an install of this sort.

  • @lvgs7348
    @lvgs7348 7 месяцев назад +5

    I wonder if this company will continue making these now that the OLED is out😅

  • @joshs5909
    @joshs5909 10 месяцев назад

    It's always a good chuckle when you post a video in which your third hand pops into the screen to help in some way 😂

  • @DustoMan
    @DustoMan 10 месяцев назад +5

    I'd be really interested in this if 1. There's official bios support and 2. FSR 3 gets added to the deck where it's just a slider to enable like FSR 1 is. I know games will have it added, but I want built-in support in Steam OS.

  • @darthmack1178
    @darthmack1178 10 месяцев назад

    Big ups to Taki for this. Always informative and concise. Big shout out to your assistant. This mod is a no for me, I am on the waitlist but this video changed my mind. Imma just stay with using Vibrant Deck. It’s good enough.

  • @samuelmeasa9283
    @samuelmeasa9283 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this video.
    I'm looking to get a second Steam Deck and have been making a list of upgrades. White shell with red buttons, heatsink, hall stick, graphite film and a 2Tb hard drive. Would love to see a tear down/rebuild if you opt to get a 4th Desk to build yourself an SD2.

  • @matthias6933
    @matthias6933 10 месяцев назад +1

    Would be very interesting to see the impact on battery life in various games. I'm quite sure that limiting fps is much more effective than having a lower resolution but it would be interesting regardless

  • @TheLexikitty
    @TheLexikitty 10 месяцев назад

    Unrelated question I’m sorry, but I am legally blind and the steam deck Magnifier does not work on the menus, how did you access the option for scaling the menus?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  10 месяцев назад

      If you visit their website, they have the full guide on what you need to do. I don't know how it will work with the stock screen though.

  • @eddyg4622
    @eddyg4622 10 месяцев назад

    I love the Logitech G Cloud. Really cool to see its screen being used for comparison. It's one of the reasons I play it way more than my Steam Deck.

  • @Stig69
    @Stig69 8 месяцев назад

    I like the Tortex picks with dremel'd off logos haha

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome!!

  • @gianlucaangeli2905
    @gianlucaangeli2905 10 месяцев назад +25

    i'm gonna be honest: i think the Deck default screen is perfectly fine. I got my deck a few days ago with the new refurbished program and i was a bit worried about the screen since so many people complained about the colors etc. But I don't even think you need vibrant deck to make it looks good. I bet most people are simply used to the amoled screen on their phone so the Deck screen lock "bad" in comparison. But personally i have no problem with it. So i'm not really sold on this mod. If anything i'd rather have an 800p oled screen with a lower power consumption.
    EDIT: again, for those saying "if you compare it to another device..." yeah, sure.
    But you don't have that problem on a normal gaming scenario when you are obviously only watching at the deck's screen.
    p.s. If you think that is a "bad screen" you have never seen a bad screen lmao.

    • @JigglypuffTutorials
      @JigglypuffTutorials 10 месяцев назад +4

      if you have any nicer screens in your house, the deck one pales in comparison. Even objectively, the color accuracy and color gamut is FAR below average. It’s the weakest point of the deck

    • @animetodamaximum
      @animetodamaximum 10 месяцев назад +2

      Don't look at any other handheld screen and you should be fine. I personally cannot go back to it.

    • @jinx20001
      @jinx20001 10 месяцев назад +2

      the stock screen is pretty bad compared to just about anything else out there in a mobile device but its not offensively bad, you can play games and be happy enough, thing is though if you look at any other display side by side the flaws become obvious, like the deck cant display deep reds at all, they always appear orange and next to a display that can show deep reds its quite an eye opener, just one example.
      i think everybody would prefer oled, I use a LG C1 oled for my pc and its awesome, HDR is second to none on an oled and dark room gaming is next level but the problem is on a portable device dark room gaming is only one scenario and Oleds lack brightness for outdoors, i have also witnessed first hand burn in on my pc display and i have only owned it just under 2 years and in that time ive taken massive measures to prevent it and still have spotted it with certain colors. Nah... id be quite happy with a standard LCD aslong as its a quality one on the next steam deck. What i do completely disagree on is sticking with 800p resolution, i have a deck and rog ally side by side and there are many examples i can point out where text is blurry or outright partially missing on the steam deck due to the resolution while on the ally its crystal clear and intact at 1080p... i have no issue at all with higher res screens on these portable machines, on newer games you have options to reduce it if framerate isn't there right but on indie titles which these things are perfect for the resolution and framerate is king, hades on the ally is a totally different game at 1080p 120hz flat compared to 800p 60hz on deck and the deck could absolutely push that game at over 800p and over 60 so its a shame.
      So for those reasons id say this deckHD upgrade is more than worth it for the resolution alone, that instantly makes the 5000 plus indie games available on steam over the last few years crisper and nicer to look at. I wont be getting one for my deck, but not because its not a good upgrade but because its not good enough so why bother when i have the ally, needed to be higher framerate, better contrast and brighter and then it would be excellent upgrade but i certainly think if people dont think the resolution is worth it im not with them and they should get out and try these higher res devices before assuming its not worth it.

    • @SToad
      @SToad 10 месяцев назад

      I played the rog ally a little and you can see the difference with a better screen. For some reason a slightly glossy screen protector for the deck made it look slightly better but the screen is underwhelming. You just get used to it.
      Hopefully in 2037 when the deck 2 drops they actually put a decent screen this time around.

    • @gianlucaangeli2905
      @gianlucaangeli2905 10 месяцев назад

      read the edit ^

  • @haroldcampos9661
    @haroldcampos9661 10 месяцев назад +7

    Most of the games I play are so undemanding that bumping up their resolution wouldn't change anything. My deck is all modified with a purple extremerate shell and storage upgrades, so I say go for it. But only if you can handle the disassembly. Having gone through it for the front plate, it's not so much difficult, but painstaking. Adhesive comes off pretty easy with your thumb nail.

  • @orcinsd
    @orcinsd 10 месяцев назад +2

    Very informative. I've been looking for this type of review for it. I had already bought a second steamdeck to modify. Have done everything to it (etched glass screen, hall effect joy sticks, 2TB Sabarant nvme, clear extremerate case) would have loved to put this screen on that deck also.
    I suppose I can still do it, or maybe it's an excuse to buy a third deck and do a different case on it.
    First world problems...

    • @arunkn09
      @arunkn09 9 месяцев назад +1

      Hi, which one did you buy? 64GB, 256 GB, or the 512 GB version? I am looking to buy one, are they all same, if we replace the SSD to the 2TB we get the same performance or do they differ?

    • @orcinsd
      @orcinsd 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@arunkn09 64GB, same performance for all decks regardless of the storage.

  • @IcoKirov
    @IcoKirov 10 месяцев назад +10

    If you wonder how your games will perform on this, find a 1200p monitor and hook it up. Use it as the only display and play the games. It should be almost if not identical from performance standpoint.

    • @ArtoriasNX
      @ArtoriasNX 10 месяцев назад

      probably only older games I suspect.

    • @IcoKirov
      @IcoKirov 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ArtoriasNX ?
      Newer games on lowest 30fps will be possible, as shown in the video.
      But you can always lower the resolution and/or use fsr. 1200p is a good standpoint for 960x600 gaming since it won't be as blurry as on a 800p display.

    • @mechanicalmonk2020
      @mechanicalmonk2020 10 месяцев назад

      It'll be a slightly worse performance since it's more efficient for the APU to draw on the internal screen

    • @IcoKirov
      @IcoKirov 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@mechanicalmonk2020 yeah, but it won't be that different. Maybe a few percentages.

    • @no-barknoonan1335
      @no-barknoonan1335 10 месяцев назад

      ​​@@IcoKirovHow good does 600p upscaled to 1200 look? I've seen people mention that, I understand it's a clean upscale in terms of the math, but is there anything special that comes about because of that?
      Specifically, does 600p upscaled to 1200p look about as good as native 800p on the native screen? Does it look worse? Better? Otherwise this would lower the decks ability to run the most difficult to run games and still deliver decent performance and visuals.

  • @csolisr
    @csolisr 10 месяцев назад +7

    My biggest complaint about the screen is that it seems to have no variable screen refresh rate support. Would help a lot to run things at a higher resolution to mitigate the lower frame rate.

    • @cqllel5186
      @cqllel5186 10 месяцев назад

      I think VRR is for refresh rates that go beyond 60hz and for Freesync/Gsync. If you have a display that has more than 60hz, then the VRR option will become available for you via Wibdows display settings. At least, that's exactly how it is for me
      Steam Decc should only have 60hz. If you connect the Decc to a display that has more than 60hz, the VRR option should automatically become available. That's how it is with my laptop

    • @Broodjemetbeleg
      @Broodjemetbeleg 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@cqllel5186vrr works below 60hz

  • @carlos2004
    @carlos2004 10 месяцев назад +1

    since i first heard about this product, i became interested in it. the upgrade sure looks nice, but i'm not sure the extra money and effort will be worth it, especially since i now use my retroid pocket more than my deck. but i'll keep this in mind in case i decide to upgrade later on.

  • @FunFreakeyy
    @FunFreakeyy 10 месяцев назад +4

    Great video! Valve has a reason why they chose a 800p panel, it's the sweetspot between performance and ppi resolution on a small screen. This video is another proof of that. I would prefer a high refresh rate panel for emulation and older games over a little bit more ppi that you won't notice in most games.

    • @Queldonus
      @Queldonus 10 месяцев назад

      I’ve been following the deckHD project in the hopes that they will give us that in the future.

    • @matthewkolar7560
      @matthewkolar7560 10 месяцев назад

      I second this wholeheartedly, a 800p 120hz OLED panel with less bezel area and FREESYNC support would be a far better fit with the other bits of the hardware. I would love to do interstitial screen blanking on my emulated GBA games at 60hzx2.

    • @Spacemonkeymojo
      @Spacemonkeymojo 10 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly. Valve designed the entire Steam Deck, obviously they would’ve chosen all the components carefully so upgrading the screen like this is just dumb as it messes up the equilibrium between all the components. Upgrading the joysticks to Hall Effect joysticks is a better mod than this screen replacement because it’s easier and it’ll help your joysticks last longer/have better accuracy.
      This screen mod is too difficult and you won’t notice any difference unless you have another Steam Deck right next to it to compare with. It’s a very silly mod.

  • @michaelmcclintick9541
    @michaelmcclintick9541 10 месяцев назад

    Great video. Thank you. Yeah wait for the deck to go on sale again or get the refurbished ones and with the money you save, pick up the screen.

  • @yfrufeyfryd2129
    @yfrufeyfryd2129 10 месяцев назад

    thanks for the video. To me the difference isnt that much in comparison to the tradeoffs, as you said maybe I'd consider it for a repair case.

  • @Sunny01331
    @Sunny01331 10 месяцев назад +4

    I like this idea, but I wish they would have made a 1200p screen that was larger with smaller bezels.

  • @zaldronthesage
    @zaldronthesage 10 месяцев назад +91

    This is pretty nuts. If Valve can just release the steam deck 2 with an upgraded screen and chipset, they would have a serious product on their hands.

    • @Chaosghoul
      @Chaosghoul 10 месяцев назад +8

      or similar screen and better chipset but have every game bump by 20-30 fps

    • @gianlucaangeli2905
      @gianlucaangeli2905 10 месяцев назад +46

      A new (more powerful) chipset would simply create more problems for the devs AND valve. Right now the deck is working well because they can focus on optimizing for a single HW configuration.

    • @JDabz96
      @JDabz96 10 месяцев назад +5

      Yea the deck is perfect as is, everyone I've showed it to it blew there mind

    • @pin00ch
      @pin00ch 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@JDabz96 I'll take a size reduction over everything else!

    • @JDabz96
      @JDabz96 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@pin00ch on the bezels I agree

  • @Evercade_Effect
    @Evercade_Effect 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very in depth testing and I geek out over this type of stuff. I appreciate your honest review. It's good to know the pros and the cons. The biggest issue is that it's not yet supported in the official BIOS and requires its own modified BIOS.

  • @daddykarlmarx6183
    @daddykarlmarx6183 10 месяцев назад +11

    My biggest problem is that that higher res kills fps and many games already have to use fsr to get decent performance, and pretty much all the color changes can be achieved simply by installing vibrant deck. If you already need a screen replacement then sure why not but otherwise its just not worth the money and hassle, especially with the bios that seems really annoying

    • @minty_x
      @minty_x 10 месяцев назад +1

      Saturation is not the same as color accuracy. Plus, you will get color banding from the display trying to show levels of saturation it physically cannot

    • @BahhBahhBrownSheep
      @BahhBahhBrownSheep 10 месяцев назад

      @@minty_xlaymans like this will never understand, no point in trying to explain it to them. They’re happy with the mediocrity that is the deck’s display.

  • @maxpowers156
    @maxpowers156 10 месяцев назад

    The third hand at 2:50 scared the hell outta me!! lol

    • @hawshimagical
      @hawshimagical 10 месяцев назад

      now i just imagine taki udon has 3 hands because of this comment

  • @JayTsTech
    @JayTsTech 10 месяцев назад +17

    I think its pretty clear most people would prefer an 800p oled

    • @bipbop3121
      @bipbop3121 10 месяцев назад

      Most people isn't all people. More accurate screen, sure. VRR, sure. OLED, eh.

    • @SicSemperBeats
      @SicSemperBeats 10 месяцев назад

      Its also very clear after multiple explanations including one from one of the engineers that it isn't feasible or frankly possible. Why does everyone keep parroting the same thing?

    • @JayTsTech
      @JayTsTech 10 месяцев назад

      @@SicSemperBeats because everyone would rather have an oled duh

  • @GraysonZimmer
    @GraysonZimmer 10 месяцев назад

    Great video but I would like to see these without the overhead/studio lights for a better direct comparison.

  • @Chaosghoul
    @Chaosghoul 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for this.
    I was really looking forward to this screen but was very afraid of the fps drop being way more noticeable than the difference in resolution.
    You mentioned about a 15 fps drop in Spiderman but didn't tell us any comparison numbers for the other titles you showed. Were those games dropping similarly in performance?

    • @Chaosghoul
      @Chaosghoul 10 месяцев назад +4

      Quoting Taki from another comment: "Elden Ring went from 43 to 30-32. FF15 went from 47 to 30."

    • @patrickpaul7141
      @patrickpaul7141 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@Chaosghoul that's a big dip in fps

    • @Chaosghoul
      @Chaosghoul 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@patrickpaul7141 yes

  • @SneakyJoeRu
    @SneakyJoeRu 10 месяцев назад

    How does it feel with all games in FSR mode? I believe it can benefit from higher panel resolution while still rendering 800p or 600p video? I already play most of my games with FSR just for added FPS.

  • @_Turbocat777
    @_Turbocat777 10 месяцев назад +28

    25fps being good enough for Nintendo had me dying LOL 🤭
    🙏🙇Greatly appreciate the efforts you put into this video showing us the pros and cons.
    Personally I think the custom Bios is a deal breaker for me. not that it's too much effort but the possibility of it breaking later if it isn't updated.
    that being said I also think the other points about color accuracy and brightness are also not worth the trade off and hassles involved.
    For others it may be a great alternative and upgrade. it's all about use-case.

  • @marc_li
    @marc_li 10 месяцев назад +2

    800p is crispy enough on a handheld display. IMO a bezel free ~8 inch screen would make the Steam Deck so much better.

    • @GuyManley
      @GuyManley 10 месяцев назад

      Steam Deck XL :)

  • @KingKevin108
    @KingKevin108 10 месяцев назад

    What this taught me is my monitor has garbage color accuracy and / or I'm color blind. I could only barely tell the differences and usually not until you pointed them out

  • @kingof9x
    @kingof9x 10 месяцев назад

    I have a full set of mods waiting for this screen to all be installed.

  • @Paradigmfusion
    @Paradigmfusion 9 месяцев назад

    screen res for the deck is perfect given its specs, but Id love to see a OLED panel in there.

  • @ethanspaziani1070
    @ethanspaziani1070 9 месяцев назад

    I'd really like a slightly bigger screen please something that takes up those black bezel areas would be a perfect size for me

  • @samh5886
    @samh5886 10 месяцев назад +12

    Overall not worth the effort, price and the need to flash their bios for most people, maybe to repair a faulty screen.
    I also like screens that don't exceed SRGB 100% which can leads to super exaggerated colors (unless they support HDR or has SRGB clamp mode), so the overall image looks decent to me.

    • @r4yker442
      @r4yker442 9 месяцев назад

      Maybe it is time for an oculist check-up
      Simply Google up sRGB and Adobe RGB, then compare them on 100% dci-p3 screen

  • @GuyManley
    @GuyManley 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting. I'm curious if using FSR 1/2 or Xess in supported titles has an apprciable improvement since the native resolution is higher. For example, FSR peformance on my 4K monitor with my PC looks completely useable in Resident Evil 4 remake because it's pulling up from 1080p. Performance mode FSR is too low quality on Steamdeck's 800p display because it's pulling up from 400p and not a lot of detail can be recreated in the reconstruction. Cheers!

  • @Mark6O9
    @Mark6O9 10 месяцев назад

    God I wish I could get a deck and get all these cool mods for it. And if I could solder them

  • @Kuriketto
    @Kuriketto 10 месяцев назад

    If only we could get a Framework-like modular handheld. Great in-depth video on this display, though.

  • @CarlMarx
    @CarlMarx 10 месяцев назад

    I'd be happy if the steam deck came to market here

  • @professorprofessorson4831
    @professorprofessorson4831 10 месяцев назад +2

    1:31 where do you get extra hand upgrade like this? Does it come pre-assemble? Does it come in a pair?

  • @FaKz92
    @FaKz92 10 месяцев назад

    Good explanations. I'm just wondering how much the color saturation difference would be if you include "decky loader" + "vibrant deck"... 🤔🤔🤔

  • @KaiPosadowsky
    @KaiPosadowsky 10 месяцев назад

    Great test overall.
    Question: What is that interesting round plug (USB-C) in the deck in most scenes? Something special?

  • @askopte
    @askopte 10 месяцев назад

    The most sensible Deck screen update, in my opinion, is neither a panel upgrade (like OLED, although i'd like to have that if possible) nor high res/refresh (deck can't drive that anyways). The best thing to do is to add a 24-60hz freesync. Even 48-60hz can do a lot of help as deck in many situation, while not powerful enough to do a 60fps lock, can usually hit around 50 fps.

  • @ungratefulmango
    @ungratefulmango 10 месяцев назад +2

    Somehow I assumed the screen would be larger. Also, if I'm being honest, I don't really care that much about extra resolution for a screen this size.
    I'd be happy with an 800p OLED screen which had a larger display area. The screen has huge bezels which could be reduced, just like how the Switch OLED did.

  • @SonixMDTCK
    @SonixMDTCK 10 месяцев назад

    Watching this video in 360p 🔥 stock screen all day errrrday 🤙🏼

  • @Malisteen
    @Malisteen 10 месяцев назад

    if you're planning to do a full shell swap and screen replacement at the same time, do you still have to pry the original screen away from the original shell as part of the mod process?

  • @91722854
    @91722854 9 месяцев назад

    would be great if steam deck eventually goes into the a modular handheld console, like framework laptop

  • @killzekat
    @killzekat 10 месяцев назад

    The potential and current drawbacks installing this 1200p screen comes with makes me think that i'll stay with the O.G screen and Vibrant Deck.
    But i understand the appeal it can have for pixel peepers.

  • @filbertjiu
    @filbertjiu 10 месяцев назад

    honestly i dont have any steam deck but still watching it till end.

  • @seekey13
    @seekey13 10 месяцев назад +3

    How hard would this mod be if you also did a full shell swap at the same time? Wouldn't that eliminate prying out a screen?

    • @TakiUdon
      @TakiUdon  10 месяцев назад +2

      I doesn't. It only gives you the ability to not care if you damage the stock screen when you remove it.

  • @Dragoninja833
    @Dragoninja833 10 месяцев назад

    Did the device run warmer? Doing some benchmarks and measuring heat would be a nice thing to see.

  • @reluttr2
    @reluttr2 10 месяцев назад +4

    The bios thing is really a dealbreaker, especially since they are reluctant to explain what/how they patch the bios to work with the screen. I mean, how do they expect valve to officially support it if they keep how they are doing it locked away?

    • @DustoMan
      @DustoMan 10 месяцев назад +1

      I think I read that they have reached out to Valve and talked to them about adding support. One method is to have the OS read a text file that lets the OS know what screen resolution and orientation that is installed on the deck. I think Valve is open to supporting 3rd party screens, but it's way down the list on priority.

  • @Revelation_From_God
    @Revelation_From_God 9 месяцев назад

    I have a GPD Win 4 and looking for similar upgrade i know bezels keep the screen safe from damage but slimmer bezels should be just fine

  • @matthewwain9958
    @matthewwain9958 9 месяцев назад +1

    Surprised there isn't an option with a screen that fills out the black bars yet.

  • @doofy3564
    @doofy3564 10 месяцев назад

    Just like the first wave of Steam deck peripherals/accessories were replaced by much better options months later, I believe this too will be replaced when someone makes an oled or 120 hz screen. I'll wait considering the quality, price, and hassle it would take when switch has an oled version.

  • @Greydawg
    @Greydawg 10 месяцев назад +1

    What's interesting to me is increasing the resolution to 1080p *often doesn't reduce performance on the Deck.* Marvel's Midnight Suns, for example, doesn't run great on the Deck, but in docked mode at 1080p it's a near-identical frame rate as 800p. Seeing as the 1080p resolution is the outlier for the DeckHD's use, it's a worthwhile note for many expecting a significant performance drop.

    • @giorhivers1672
      @giorhivers1672 10 месяцев назад

      Not sure what you talking about the game runs fine for me and my deck is not modified at all. Might have a glitch or clip here and there but it’s no different from my pc

    • @Greydawg
      @Greydawg 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@giorhivers1672 semantics perhaps, but my point was only that the resolution increase doesn't often affect the performance is all.

  • @rehnai
    @rehnai 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the review Taki.
    What's the name of the game you played at 18:30 ?
    it looks great

  • @coolkid4381
    @coolkid4381 10 месяцев назад

    if you stream from your pc to your deck this would be an AMAZING upgrade

  • @rebound2001
    @rebound2001 10 месяцев назад

    I don't really play any crazy resolution games due to frame rate so I think the original screen is ok for me, it's awesome people made this though, just the extra battery it must use.

  • @goldfingerdash
    @goldfingerdash 9 месяцев назад

    I am hoping that the AMD Color Management in SteamOS 3.5 will be a nice benefit for the stock screen.

  • @StuffOfSonny
    @StuffOfSonny 10 месяцев назад

    I'll probably find myself interested in this screen once higher capacity batteries become available, as it's already my biggest bottle neck at 800p.

  • @GeoDudeB
    @GeoDudeB 10 месяцев назад

    I wish there was a place that did all these mods for me.

  • @-aexc-
    @-aexc- 10 месяцев назад +1

    man, I just want a better 800p LCD/oled display. the resolution is not the issue with the steam deck screen

  • @Kid15X
    @Kid15X 10 месяцев назад +1

    I really wish the Deck had smaller bezels, most of the time running games at 720p, they're letterboxed and it means the actual games feel really tiny

  • @enrikes9877
    @enrikes9877 10 месяцев назад

    Hey what was that white case you had on the steam deck. It looks sick!

  • @netizenz7182
    @netizenz7182 10 месяцев назад

    Hello, nice video ! What about battery life comparison between playing 1200p and 800p ? Thanks

  • @Clanps
    @Clanps 10 месяцев назад

    I wish the screen quality was better on the deck, OLED would be nice or at least on the software side have a gamma adjustment under the software side, I find some games that are too dark don't have a gamma adjustment slider. I know Wayland (gaming mode) doesn't have any gamma adjustment right now but I'm sure valve could make something themselves. As for the resolution, I have pretty bad eyesight so I don't really notice the pixel density.