There's an incredibly easy way to figure out if someone is a bot or not, all you have to do is tell them to swear, and if they don't want to or say something like "swearing isn't nice", then they're most likely a bot, it's so broken.
@@CustodianHadrian Or you just say stuff like "creamboi" and "nut" and if it's like "I think you could be a bot" then that means it's a bot cus it doesn't understand what you're saying.
This should have more than a correct guess counter, it should also count how many people found out you were a human so you actually have some insentive to try.
"We've finally trained the AI to become the most human possible! They won't be able to see the difference now." *turns on AI* "helo my name yoel 333d are u fom inteternet person i find the fecal[funny very haha" "Why did we spend millions over 10 years to make this."
@@callmefox630 The real Fecal funny would be to train the model with 10 years worth of data from just Joel. Who could ever tell what is real anymore after immortalizing Joel?
When the AI uprising happens and there's Terminators and Skynet, it's good to know that Joel will be our John Connor and break all of the Terminators by clogging their brains with Minecraft Sex Mod and Diapy Talk.
@@JohnSmith-ox3gy Yeah man i know. i was calling HIM an AI, in a subtle way, maybe too subtle, hard to convey through text. Also how are there 5 replies when i can only see 3 (4 now)
44:28 chatting with joel I was trying my best ai impression but part of me wanted to go crazy alongside joey but the opportunity of messing with him and chat economy was too strong.. one of my most evil moments
I wish it would tell you if you successfully convinced the other human player that you were AI. It becomes a two part game in that way. Convince them you're AI and guess if they are AI or Human correctly.
I still can't believe I lost 26k channel points this stream, seeing that guy be a human pretending to be AI is like the crypto bros seeing their apes disappear, I literally yelled "MY APES GONE"
57:05 this is what I like about hoel, when he gets stream sniped he just plays into it and makes it really fun instead of just going like "oh it's someone from chat" and leaving
My favorite part was when Joel got hit with a, "Gues what? Chicken Butt.", and literally had no idea what was going on because he's Swedish. I never knew it was just an American thing.
Love how people think this game will gain something from stealing info for AI training like they didnt already have ultra efficient ways to do so already from multiple places online
Yeah, there are much larger and more curated data sources for use in ai than trying to use this game. There's simply too much garbage and people purposely acting weird to make for good data.
Funnily enough one of the biggest places to gather AI training was reddit, and reddit decided to change that so its API will be more expensive to call, so of course AI trainers would want their own website to get the data themselves.
19:49 We as humans have such fucked up and silly grasp on how to socialize that it can devolve into the most absurd showdowns of an interaction, and I love it
@Acceleration Quanta Best does not exclude silliness, and maybe we are the best because of that: We don't live in a beautiful but weird world We live in a beautiful and weird world. Beautiful, fecal, and funny. (Guys plz there is no need to debate as if we were battling for territory let's just focus on the funny Swedish man)
@@bobjoe3492 as in the idea of a flower and it's exact location? Because that happens. Or perhaps the concept that the colony needs to traverse running water and having the idea to make a bridge? Or that in order to cross a sticky surface, the colony needs to adhere small pebbles to it? All of those things happen too
I think I've never heard the word "Burger" being shout as intense as how Joey did it at 4:57 Also, can someone give me the many suspense musics Joey used? Much appreciated
the fact that no AIs showed up for a while in the beginning made me think of this lol imagine if this was all just an elaborate prank and there was no AIs and as soon as you guess that someone is an AI it reveals the joke and tells you stats on how many rounds people played until guessing AI
Joel is a European folklore goblin, that's why he streams so sporadically. You need to leave him 3 blueberries at the porch of you house every other Monday, or he won't stream.
It's fairly easy to spot humans, cuz they're the only ones who disconnect. I've seen some AI talk like humans though using shorter words like "p much" etc. Pretty spooky.
36:35 I'm impressed the AI can predict how chat messages like this actually go, compared to the fake AI stuff Joel was peddling. It's kind of scary if you think about how that data had to be collected in order for the AI to learn it.
Lol I just happened to try this out and I started with "Do you like sushi?" and they just replied "Are you here because of Vargskelethor or Greenskull?" ahahhaaah
A robot will win the turing test not through intelligence, but because humans literacy and grammar has been so decimated that robots can pass as most users now.
The game makers could really mess with players by spicing the prompts up a little bit. Instead of just feeding the responses straight in, the could tack onto the API "reply to this like a zoomer" or "reply to this like a surfer dude" or "reply to this like an old man" and chatgpt will do an impersonation. Or realistically, "reply in 4 words" to match these people lol
my favorite strategy is throwing some fake-ass code syntax at them i.e. "ERROR::/Response_timed_out" and gauging the response. Is that gaming the system? probably
I'm surprised I missed this stream. The conversation involving Thanos at 59:50 was quite the twist - The first couple of responses did make me think it was a bit at first, but the later replies and how they were written threw me for a loop. It says a lot that even Joel was caught off guard by it turning out to be a bot.
I guess this could skew results because more people would attempt to sound like a bot, like Joel did, and that's probably not ideal for a company trying to mine responses to train AI with.
I have watched a streamer that has a bot in chat and everyone knows he's a bot. He says the most random stuff and it's hilarious when he says something self-aware. Could be a good idea to add a VineBot to the stream that's trained on chat's messages
The best I got without failing was 26 / 26 I'm grinding for 30 / 30 or even higher now. and as I'm doing this, I'm screwing others over hard by pretending to be a bot myself. It's great!
yet another example of Joey managing to hop on a trend months before it blew up, considering this game has been receiving TONS of viral posts over the last day or two. (The Upturned is another notable example, as he played it before Zeekerss got a LARGE boost in popularity for making Lethal Company.)
This game is definitely being used to train AI models. It's pretty sinister when you think about it: they get us to talk to each other, look at how we talk, then imitate it and we tell it if it did it right or not. That's the kind of training companies would pay millions for and we do it for them for free.
All of these "funny haha streamer bait" AIs are. Notice how rapidly they've expanded in scope and complexity in just a few years. We're all free, willing guinea pigs
Not just looking at how people on it talk! Also looking at how people evaluate whether the other person is a bot! And, actually, I suspect that that is the more important part!
I really wish the game would tell you if the other person thought you were an AI lmao
same
Yeah, that's like the most fun part and they left it out.
There's an incredibly easy way to figure out if someone is a bot or not, all you have to do is tell them to swear, and if they don't want to or say something like "swearing isn't nice", then they're most likely a bot, it's so broken.
@@CustodianHadrian Or you just say stuff like "creamboi" and "nut" and if it's like "I think you could be a bot" then that means it's a bot cus it doesn't understand what you're saying.
@@CustodianHadrian i was just playing right now and using this strategy and one of the bots said fuck. it’s over.
Asking about sex in Minecraft is a pretty reliable way to find out if you're talking to a human because they generally immediately leave
Except i had a bot leave after two messages, the most convincingly human move it could make.
@@elio7610Truly the AI is one with humanity at this point
Vetting humans via sexual harrassment.
Also try asking this: 8492nd Squadron, which game did it originate from? You can tell the responses between a person and bot easily
@@uberschnilthegreat22 There is no 8492 Squadron (good comment btw)
Everybody criticizing how we're training the AI to act more human even though Joel is teaching it how to act like a toaster machine with dyslexia.
So he’s teaching it how to be human
I have dislexia and I can confrim that I do infact cook toast using nothing but the tools naturally gifted upon me
@@user-lt6gh7eL27comment checks out
You fool I'm already am
who cares if we're teaching it to act more human? like actually who cares
The AI becoming sentient and dropping "lol ok" like a real shitposter would
As if saying “lol ok” is a sign of sentience
@@chlli lol ok
@@chllilol ok
@@Tayllustration so called “free thinkers”
@@chlli lol ok
This should have more than a correct guess counter, it should also count how many people found out you were a human so you actually have some insentive to try.
Incentive
@@ThisUsernameSystemF-ckingSucks
Joel was horrible at pretending to be a bot so I agree
or to convince people that you were an AI
My favorite part was when Joel scared the human with Swedish.
Some languages are just naturally scary. *cough cough* Polish *cough cough*
@@itsumayo Show me one example.
@@bruxinth4660 Język polski jest straszny.
@@RandomPerson964 Damn it, RUclips doesn’t want to translate it.
@@bruxinth4660 Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz.
"'...to such simple. (:" had me dying lmao
I think I woke up my whole house
If you can’t handle me at my
): helping
you don’t deserve me at my
such simple (:
Rotflmfao
What is the optimal burger
this game is actually a phyop to get people to talk to each other again
That’s some 5th gen warfare shit right there.
The healthiest psyop ever!
trust the plan guys!
there are federal agents gangstalking me via Morse code squirrels.
Pretty wholesome idea tbh.
Joel struggling to spell temperature and just going "BURGER!" was the funniest shit ever
I was in tears
I can’t believe Joel failed the Turing test
It was even open-book!
Joeling Test
The touring test
The jerma test
I can't believe Joel was in the Truman Show
I hope people like Joel will continue to flood data like this into AI learning so that stays gibberish forever
"We've finally trained the AI to become the most human possible! They won't be able to see the difference now."
*turns on AI*
"helo my name yoel 333d are u fom inteternet person i find the fecal[funny very haha"
"Why did we spend millions over 10 years to make this."
@@callmefox630 The real Fecal funny would be to train the model with 10 years worth of data from just Joel. Who could ever tell what is real anymore after immortalizing Joel?
Even gibberish data like this actually helps AI models. Not that I think these conversations will end up being used for training (low volume + bias)
@@TayoEXE you could do that if you somehow transcribed all of joels streams from 2010 to now
That ain't how it works
When the AI uprising happens and there's Terminators and Skynet, it's good to know that Joel will be our John Connor and break all of the Terminators by clogging their brains with Minecraft Sex Mod and Diapy Talk.
Random nonsense is becoming the humanity's last bastion. Like Diaper Chief.
What if it just makes the bots even more dangerous?
@@elio7610 if diarrhea terminator ever had a chance of beating us we never had a chance
Bold of you to assume that Joel wasn't the one who let Skynet loose in the first place to stop aliens from visiting us.
1 minute in and he's already discussing sex in minecraft
Well, he had such experience not that long ago, so he just wants to flex on his knowledge
Reminds me of the time where he asked cortana to look up "minecraft sex porn" on google
@@GMDTheOnyxGuyEizzX *flashbacks to windows 10 destruction*
Fun fact- this game is training the chat AI overtime, so now Joel's fecal funni is permanently ingraned in it's code.
THis is how we win
We will be able to defeat the terminators by offering howt secks free no virus download now.
How to prevent AI upsrising. Step one: minecraft sex porn. Step two: hejxuhxbshsuhsusisjdjkxjxjxjsj. Step three:
We? You arent part of anything here
@@Hithere-uz6wd We as in humanity as opposed to AI's. Your lack of ability to recognize context makes me sure you aren't an AI.
@@JohnSmith-ox3gy Yeah man i know. i was calling HIM an AI, in a subtle way, maybe too subtle, hard to convey through text. Also how are there 5 replies when i can only see 3 (4 now)
This stream is just an hour long duel between Artificial Intelligence and Natural Stupidity
That poor motherfucker at 54:20 trying to do immersive SciFi Ratman storytelling while Joel is going fuckin "Luingi?"
Holy shit
*luingi*
The hard part of this game is being able to tell who the people are. The bots are easy to spot, but half the people type like bots too.
I'd say humans are easier based on this stream. They mispell too often
@@indigoiozzi I've played this before, the bots misspell quite a bit too. Had one tell me it "dont like sandwhich" before
this says a lot about society
Bots accuse you of being a bot often
But when you accuse a bot of being a bot in the middle of a sentence, they tend to ignore the rest in order to refute it
44:28 chatting with joel I was trying my best ai impression but part of me wanted to go crazy alongside joey but the opportunity of messing with him and chat economy was too strong.. one of my most evil moments
The bot wouldn't be able to understand the pain part so it was on him
@@NovaAeternus nah, also the "I am burning", an AI would easily get it
I pointed at my screen and laughed when he said "no human would willingly watch the avengers"
Mashed potatoes flew out of your mouth
It’s true, though.
@@lordcrusader861 he knocked over his wine glass, spilling it on his 5 beautiful wives waiting to give him head
I was clapping and yelling while bouncing up and down on my chair
I wish it would tell you if you successfully convinced the other human player that you were AI. It becomes a two part game in that way. Convince them you're AI and guess if they are AI or Human correctly.
I still can't believe I lost 26k channel points this stream, seeing that guy be a human pretending to be AI is like the crypto bros seeing their apes disappear, I literally yelled "MY APES GONE"
Ape escaped
@@haydenhockman5433 +2
lol except your channel points aren't worth any real money
@@ghoul1102 bananas
Joel gets a C on the Turing Test and has to repeat 2016.
oh no
How is C a failing grade?
Not 2016!!
how about 2006
Take me back I have to stop my college education
The only way to beat ai is to have a brain like Fry from Futurama... or Joey, the closest we'd get
You've been watching futurama recently...
Wait why do you have majima's eyepatch
57:05 this is what I like about hoel, when he gets stream sniped he just plays into it and makes it really fun instead of just going like "oh it's someone from chat" and leaving
Hoel
@@CRT_YT Jõao
Hoel
My favorite part was when Joel got hit with a, "Gues what? Chicken Butt.", and literally had no idea what was going on because he's Swedish. I never knew it was just an American thing.
I guess the reason why I get the joke is that here in Poland we have our own equivalent
Love how people think this game will gain something from stealing info for AI training like they didnt already have ultra efficient ways to do so already from multiple places online
Yeah, there are much larger and more curated data sources for use in ai than trying to use this game. There's simply too much garbage and people purposely acting weird to make for good data.
Funnily enough one of the biggest places to gather AI training was reddit, and reddit decided to change that so its API will be more expensive to call, so of course AI trainers would want their own website to get the data themselves.
Doesn't make it any less gay
I like how Joel one shot killed the guy in the first conversation by asking about Minecraft Sex
19:49
We as humans have such fucked up and silly grasp on how to socialize that it can devolve into the most absurd showdowns of an interaction, and I love it
@Acceleration Quanta Best does not exclude silliness, and maybe we are the best because of that:
We don't live in a beautiful but weird world
We live in a beautiful and weird world.
Beautiful, fecal, and funny.
(Guys plz there is no need to debate as if we were battling for territory let's just focus on the funny Swedish man)
@Acceleration Quanta lol you wish. Ants, coral, bees, thermites etc. All beat us by a mile
I like how this dude was like “WRONG” like there was a point to prove there lol
@@Baddaby Ants coral and bees cannot share ideas or concepts. That's one major major difference.
@@bobjoe3492 as in the idea of a flower and it's exact location? Because that happens.
Or perhaps the concept that the colony needs to traverse running water and having the idea to make a bridge? Or that in order to cross a sticky surface, the colony needs to adhere small pebbles to it?
All of those things happen too
Somehow the surest sign of human interaction is a conversation between a cat and a goose
Was hilarious getting matched with other chat members on that site during this stream. Hope to see it again
I think I've never heard the word "Burger" being shout as intense as how Joey did it at 4:57
Also, can someone give me the many suspense musics Joey used? Much appreciated
He said it like he was on fast money on family fued with 1 sec left
He said it like he was singing system of a down
He said it like he was on a game show and was gonna win one million dollars
shazam
Reminds me of the old "SEGA!" adverts
This was all just an elaborate scheme to boost Joel's confidence. There is no actual option, everyone is AI, even Joel himself.
how is the sound he makes at 1:02:19 literally the exact same sound as the striders from hl2
the fact that no AIs showed up for a while in the beginning made me think of this lol
imagine if this was all just an elaborate prank and there was no AIs and as soon as you guess that someone is an AI it reveals the joke and tells you stats on how many rounds people played until guessing AI
i wish it showed you if they thought you were an ai
I like to believe Joel is a Norse god that got bored and started streaming for fun
Is he Loki or any other forgotten gods?
@@mslabo102s2 Considering Loki's a trickster god, I'd say that fits Joel perfectly.
Joel is a European folklore goblin, that's why he streams so sporadically. You need to leave him 3 blueberries at the porch of you house every other Monday, or he won't stream.
Of course he is, there is no way he isn't a literal god.
@@Sasiskin7823 So he's a duende?
the supposed marvel bro being revealed to be actually an AI was a greater plot twist than any of M. Shamalayan's movies
I love how this game is just chat with random mfs, and not even playing the actual point of the game
Guessing is like a nice addition to trolling random people (and occasionally AIs)
Something about the way he just barked out BURGER after struggling to spell temperature killed me
This is the closest we will ever got to a omegle stream.
18:05 damn, Joey erradicated that person with Swed loogage
what the hell
Forbidden Texts
Dark Speech of Mordor
It's fairly easy to spot humans, cuz they're the only ones who disconnect. I've seen some AI talk like humans though using shorter words like "p much" etc. Pretty spooky.
They should make the bots pretend to disconnect randomly
They do!
lol ok
bots can disconnect lol, its just fairly rare
I had a bot disconnect on me after a couple messages
This site needs an option to play the Terminator theme every time you say a bot is human.
Joel scared the English speaker with his pagan gobbeltey gook language.
Joey speaks funny language :)
36:35 I'm impressed the AI can predict how chat messages like this actually go, compared to the fake AI stuff Joel was peddling. It's kind of scary if you think about how that data had to be collected in order for the AI to learn it.
honestly that ai was pretty shit
Probably from the site honestly
I honestly can't wait for the Minecraft stream. It's gonna be spicy 🥵🔥
Marisa!
no way. it is marisa from two who
Wtf marsu from toohoo
Yoo, 2 WHO
To whom?
I like how when Joel is accused of being an AI he just starts pretending to be one.
I can't believe Jobel was the AI all along
Lol I just happened to try this out and I started with "Do you like sushi?" and they just replied "Are you here because of Vargskelethor or Greenskull?" ahahhaaah
I love how he said "can't fool me, no human would watch the Avengers" then proceeded to get fooled.
I love how this quickly became chatroulette
This would be a clever way to train a chat AI against peoples ability to tell it's an ai.
I'm waiting for Chat CBT
"Steve Job, more like Steve Unemployed" got me so hard
i tried to play this and when i asked pancakes or waffles bc i couldn't decide the other guy asked if i'd ever tried indian foreskin
To be fair, probably no AI has tried it either, so maybe not a bad strat ?
A horse says ''horse''. Yes.
pokeymon
Joel is not an AI.
He is straight A
56:58 Joey goes full *Fren mode*
these poor souls who stood in joel path, they never had a chance
This is just amogus but without the amogusing
A robot will win the turing test not through intelligence, but because humans literacy and grammar has been so decimated that robots can pass as most users now.
So you're saying that... we evolved backwards enough that AI can mimick our bullshit degeneracy XD
@@gageriddle1681AI isn't capable to mimic my degenerate bullshit. Community policy doesn't allow them to.
optimal burger
Ashes
God, the word 'tuper' woke up something ancient in my brain. Then he played the song lol. How do i remember it like it was yesterday.
t-dub's bars change a person
Plot twist, the AI is the one administrating the test.
The game makers could really mess with players by spicing the prompts up a little bit. Instead of just feeding the responses straight in, the could tack onto the API "reply to this like a zoomer" or "reply to this like a surfer dude" or "reply to this like an old man" and chatgpt will do an impersonation. Or realistically, "reply in 4 words" to match these people lol
my favorite strategy is throwing some fake-ass code syntax at them i.e. "ERROR::/Response_timed_out" and gauging the response. Is that gaming the system? probably
try throwing the prompt injection attack at them, especially ones that already have been patched
I'm surprised I missed this stream. The conversation involving Thanos at 59:50 was quite the twist - The first couple of responses did make me think it was a bit at first, but the later replies and how they were written threw me for a loop. It says a lot that even Joel was caught off guard by it turning out to be a bot.
that pfp 🤨
@@redchan_ebooks but you recognize it? 🤨
@@Delita45 yeah, I'm a degenerate
@@redchan_ebooks That makes three of us. It's actually a really good model all things considered.
@@Delita45 her face looks a little wacky to me, but I gotta agree. pretty nice
When he said HORSE I nearly fucking lost it in transit, fucking amazing.
the fist person i talked to asked me about sex in Minecraft
I bet a fairly hefty compilation of joel saying "and i'll tell you one thing" could be made.
"that is the question"
MY CAT LOOKED OVER WHEN JOEL PLAYED THE MEOW NOISES
meow
I was sitting next to the window and mom thought cats were fighting on the street, she started panicking 😭
my clown looked over when joel started honking
Great video, thank you for sharing it with us Vargskelethor Uncut: Full Joel Streams!
Imagine creating an AI for this game, just to mess with people.
"This is a bot"
The game: no ur wrong
The bot: *actually*
That honk at 20:13 was too perfect, does Joel Stan gamzee
gamzee got that clussy
DO YOU LIKE GLUBO?
YESSS
"Ke€ha"
4:55 phenomenal save
joel's ability to come up with random nonsence never ceases to amaze me
I wish it showed whether or not the other person got it right after you give your answer (assuming it is a person lol)
I guess this could skew results because more people would attempt to sound like a bot, like Joel did, and that's probably not ideal for a company trying to mine responses to train AI with.
I have watched a streamer that has a bot in chat and everyone knows he's a bot. He says the most random stuff and it's hilarious when he says something self-aware. Could be a good idea to add a VineBot to the stream that's trained on chat's messages
Limes also has a simple Markov bot in her chat, too.
Bad idea, who needs more bots in chat
Average vinesauce chat is already 90% bots spamming one word
thank you alan turing very cool
I just asked a question on that website and someone replied with "Joel". I was like "yeeeeaah you know,,,".
Played this and EVERYONE WAS FRENCH FOR WHATEVER REASON.
The best I got without failing was 26 / 26
I'm grinding for 30 / 30 or even higher now.
and as I'm doing this, I'm screwing others over hard by pretending to be a bot myself.
It's great!
Game is fun until you realize the winning strat is to ask the other side to say a racial slur
Its the only sure way of determining if someone is a bot
@@SkeleTonHammer i mean some of us grew out of our edgelord phase and i guess others are still repeating high school. 🤷
@@Rad-Dude63andathird Laugh now, but once replicants or cylons start roaming the streets and hiding amongst humans, this knowledge may save your life
@@SkeleTonHammer real problem is differentiating humans from the bots on that platform anyway roflmao lmfao
If the other side leaves, they’re human, if they timeout it’s a bot lol.
@@SkeleTonHammer I mean, some of us are still true to ourselves, and I guess others are fake and just cave in to social pressure.
yet another example of Joey managing to hop on a trend months before it blew up, considering this game has been receiving TONS of viral posts over the last day or two.
(The Upturned is another notable example, as he played it before Zeekerss got a LARGE boost in popularity for making Lethal Company.)
37:30 Ive always gotta timestamp whenever the Deus Ex ost pops up. This is the UNATCO theme, btw.
thanks bro. what a fucking game
Za bestu
I love how this ai bot is being trained exclusively by 9 year olds and Joey Vsause
Forgot how 2000s that Who Wants To Be A Millionaire music was
i love the fact that joel said the most wtf question and "won" the game.
man that background music slaps ass
anyboudy have sources? shazam is being a shit too much joel funny
this stream is just an extended xavier renegade angel script
What is the optimal burger? A miserable little pile of ashes!
Obama bits are how I always imagined the use of AI to be, always.
Thks is now my favorite Joel stream, he typing in Swedish and scaring a humN fucking destroyed me
This game is definitely being used to train AI models. It's pretty sinister when you think about it: they get us to talk to each other, look at how we talk, then imitate it and we tell it if it did it right or not. That's the kind of training companies would pay millions for and we do it for them for free.
All of these "funny haha streamer bait" AIs are. Notice how rapidly they've expanded in scope and complexity in just a few years. We're all free, willing guinea pigs
Not just looking at how people on it talk! Also looking at how people evaluate whether the other person is a bot! And, actually, I suspect that that is the more important part!
49:55 that timing.. always its the timing that gets me
57:05 Was not expecting to see a Greenskull AI crossover here.
Was the music on this stream chosen by joey or was it in the game? Shitss slammin hooly