Very impressed with this bike. I had a '08 Enduro converted to supermoto...unbelievable bike. Now I ride the '17 450 6days supermoto, just like the one you built...loving it. Thanks for review Chopsy!
So far the anti wheelie has never cut in for me on mode one with everything enabled, the front wheel comes up and I haven't trusted it to save me yet, I thought it was broken
@@matth8924 I believe its 3 hours labour, so dependent on local rates etc. I’d say c£200. Average service cost isnt too bad, first service was £140, and thats not too bad considering the bike has 2 oil filters.
@Pete Pester I'm looking for a dependable bike to daily. would you say this bike is more reliable than the drz? I know you shouldn't really compare the 690 because its almost twice the bike and twice the cost, im just curious about the longevity and service intervals difference.
Your videos 2 years ago were the reason I bought a new 701 in South Africa 👍 sold all my bikes when I moved back to the UK last year - glad I found your channel again - subscribed! See you on the road soon - 701 v 690
Great review Mr Chops, you and 44th are my 'go to' RUclips channels, thanks for the hard work you put in. I owned a 690 Duke R 2016(TFT dash ), which was the first of the new type engines. It was a fantastic bike, super frugal and never used a drop of oil, even wheeling it through 4th and quick enough for the road, for me anyway. I might just have to go for the SMCR as I do miss my Duke R.
On my 2019 690 Enduro R I get 160+ range doing “normal” adventure riding. Agree on engine performance and overall character of the bike. A more complete dash definitely needed and a seat upgrade a must.
I swapped my 959 for one at the start of the year and loved every minute , learnt so much about bike control using it and it’s makes you smile every ride
Seriously rate the 690/701 I’ve been using a 2013 since 2015 covered 20K using a daily as well as longer journeys from the south coast to Scotland they are more then capable as a sole bike. They are gently giants can just cruise or take an absolute smashing off the limiter on the back wheel. I’m planning on going onto the new 2021 smcr next year 👌
Love mine chops won’t be getting rid of it any time soon. Don’t need 200bhp to put a grin on your face. You can still surprise some sports bikes on it.
Got the 2011 smc and love it, when it works properly :)) although only 20k kms electrical, efi and fuel pump issues gave me a hard time. Definetly not a japanese bike, but as I said, it puts a smile on your face when you ride it.
I tried the 701sm and the 701 Svartpilen, opted for the Svartpilen as it suited me better but as above that mix of great engine, light weight and handling is fantastic
Would you say it would be a good first bike for a beginner? I don't really want to buy a 600cc sport bike because it's a bit too much for a beginner, yet I really dislike riding 300-400cc sport bike variants. It would be mostly used for city commuting and hooning, pretty much no highway use. Would you think that SMC 690 R would be too hard to control? Does it just wheelie under throttle or something like that? I might get myself a DRZ400SM or something similar if 690 proves to be a handful to ride.
@@lazar2175 great bike no it's not a handful. Unless you want it to be. It's has maps 1&2 1 is anti wheelie 2 is full out no traction control. have fun best bike I've ever road. And I've ridden alot of bikes.
Also got my 2019 this february (huge rebate over the 2020 model, while being virtually identical), and i second every point you made. I've done ~6500km by now, also zero oil consumption, and i regularly get >250km per tank (actually close to 290km on the current one). PowerParts seat is a must, Berotec CUMPAN as rev/oil temp display is a great addon. I recommend also getting the PowerParts airbox lid, that adds a lot of grunt in the low end and makes it a much smoother ride a low revs (30km/h zones, anyone?). SP Connect Moto Pro Mount for the smartphone, the classic SHIN YO mirrors mounted over the controls, Zeta Armor Pro with XC plastics... and the Remus Black Hawk for a much improved (while still not annoying) sound.
After watching your videos on the 690 in Portugal and SMF from the Netherlands, I had a ride on a demo, Twenty metres down the road,,,,,I was sold, In your words chopsie ''what a bike, WHAT A BIKE'' Had a ride around town, went back to the dealer and bought one.
@@LambChopRides I think your videos are great for the dealers. Regarding the smc r and the R, KTM must of had loads of enquiries/sales. So they've got to give you a special deal on yours . Keep the vids coming. Well done.
Cheers for this Chops, I tend to listen to your videos as audio only in the van at work, you have, without trying, a great way of explaining and detailing your experiences that only a great depth of previous experience can convey, similar to Richi Vida, met you a couple times up NEC, let's hope for a better 2021.👍
Awesome review as always LCR, honestly there’s no other reviewer or reviewers that have your unique skill set and vast experience, keep up the hooligan even if you can’t show it 🇨🇦
I have a 2019 SMC R 690 and a Duke 2020 890R. Both great. The Duke 890R IS winning all comparison tests (just slightly) against the best middle weight bike of modern times: The Street Triple. But if I had to have ONE---the SMC R is just the essence of bare bones fun. It walks right by my friend's old skool KTM 990 Adventure as well. FYI: The dash is somewhat "fixed" on the 2021 with a tach and better dash switches and brakes. Rottweiler on this is maybe the best Rotty mod I have felt on ALL/ANY of the 6 KTM's I have put that kit on. A big gob of new power waits right at the twist bit open point off a cruise. It jumps now!
I currently have a 2020 890R also and was thinking about picking up a 21 690 SMC R glad to see you like them both. Which do you end up riding more often?
Hi LCR. Bought one after your launch video in Portimao. Love it. It’s my third bike but its the one I always ride for shorter and twisty trips. Have the comfort seat (46 years old and have a 3 level lombar fusion...), Wings Exhaust and some protection parts. Thinking of replacing the 16’’ front sprocket for the 15’’ tooth to try it out. Have it for 4 months and 1.200 miles. I do have oil leaks from the front sprocket oring + from the top of the clutch case near the oil filter. Agree with everything you mention on the video review. After winter will upgrade for DNA filter + open airbox top from DNA + powercommander V with dyno tuning. Please buy it and keep posting videos on the SMCR project!!!
I too had the countershaft leak and updated with the new bushing, o-ring which has been redesigned. Will see if that resolves this minor issue. I do get some seeping from the oil filter cap but not enough to be concerned. Great motor and lightweight adv bike for me.
Can you elaborate on the protection you put on there? I got the crash pads for the axles, and a nice orange skid plate from IBEX, but i'm looking for either a pair of frame sliders (yes, i know the problems they can present) or even better, a whole cage / crash bars.
@@jangrewe Hi. I have the KTM Powerparts axle sliders, the KTM Powerparts carbon protectors for the engine cases (clutch & ignition), the KTM Powerparts plastic skid plate, R&G frame sliders, R&G handlebar end protectors. The R&G frame sliders www.rg-racing.com/browsebike/KTM/690_SMCR/2019/CP0404/ do get "on the way" when riding fast, I often bump into them with my legs.
@@ClaudioSubtil1974 Thanks, i was also considering the carbon protectors, but they charge quite a bit for those. Considering the 3 points that the axle sliders and a cage would provide, they may not even be necessary (just my theory, i'd need to check). Thanks also for confirming what i previously heard about the R&G sliders and comfort, so those are definitely off my list then. I just came across these crash guards, and email the manufacturer if they're compatible with the SMC R, too: outbackmotortek.net/product/ktm-690r-adventure-crash-bars/ - that's probably the most comfortable and least flip-lever'y option.
I absolutely love my ‘19! It easily keeps up with liter bikes in the twisty stuff. The Powerparts seat is a must though. I may trade up to a ‘21 just to get the tach and gear indicator.
I used to have one of these (chopped it in for a 2020 KTM SDR) and totally agree with you about the gold wheels. Would’ve finished off the bike perfectly!
Great revue and I agree totally. I bought my 2020 in March and have had no problems. I did change the seat however. My butt still hurts but at least it's my whole butt.
G'day Mr Chops.Neat video. Refer to your question, Should you buy one? Answer "Nah". Too expensive for what it is. Riding it on a long journey would be a pain in the Butt, but it looks good. We've been out of lockdown in Victoria for a week now but still limited to a 25 kms radius.
Great video again chops 👍 Looking forward to the GSX-S 1000 review as I've got one in the garage and personally think that it's a great machine for the money. Also was you doing a double take on that female cyclists backside? 🤣🤣
Great video, hope your having a good weekend. Couple of things I was wondering. Firstly is it a good bike for beginner? I want to buy myself one and I have motorcross to superbike experience but my son who is 19 will be getting his license soon, he’s ridden 125 road legal and my superbike on occasion (private land of course 😅) So will swap over be okay? For me it will be to enjoy super Moto bike again then pass on to my son? Second of all the bike holds its value so well, would you recommend a new one at about 9k so I can run in myself or to buy maybe a 19/20/21 edition? Keeping in mind these are still 7.5-8.5k anyway. KR Nick
Knox is good stuff Chopsy, you're lucky to get them as a sponsor. KTM690 SMC is a bit of a tool. Think I'd be more tempted by the 690 Enduro R though 😉
I had a 2014 one for 4 months. Bought young second hand with 9000km and no mods other then tail tidy. First ride home a lot of gearbox issues (false neutrals etc no matter how hard or soft i shifted), arrive home and look over it -> Back wheel half of it covered in grime. Cleaned it and looked for leaks but didnt see anything. Next ride same story, look again and find a leak on the shifter, bad O-ring. Back to dealer and replaced it, leak stopped but the gearbox kept having issues (once again false neutrals and going out of gear in acceleration). Sold it a bit later , what a dissapointment. Even my Husaberg fs570 supermotard (which I bought with the money i got for the 690) had less problems.
I have an older model which I am in love it the only things I would want different on your bike are: screen display I'd prefer two exhausts like the model of 2007 and some wind protection (like the one i have on my own) because that's a machine that yu can travel for few hundred km
Great vid love my 2019 enduro r no oil used at 7k. The only thing lets mine down are occasional false neutrals when changing up with quick shifter. Usually when trying to blat past a row of cars. Agree very revvy engine loves being thrashed. Great fun wet dry or muddy
Yes there is a false netrua but I hardly ever hit it, once you know how to ride the bike (correct lever pressure etc) its fine. My 701 was worse for it, perhaps they have improved it..
What's reliability been like on the SMCR? Heard some things about them spending a lot of time at dealerships getting fixed? Thought best to hear from an actual owner.
Hi there Mr Chops, do you use the knox riding shirt with inbuilt armour? Whats your thought? Great vid as always, looking forward to you upgrades to this bike. Tnx...
Yes I do, Ive had it for a couple of years its fantastic. Close fitting armour is the way forward. Otherwise if its just in a jacket it just moves on impact.
Kinda surprised that not losing oil is worth mentioning nowadays. None of my bikes (from 1995-now) ever burned any noticeable amount of oil (Honda, Aprilia, BMW).
Bought my 2019 ktm 790 duke but now discovered these!. For the fun factor this looks better. Think its worth trading in the duke for this? As long as these can handle the miles and have similar comfort im in.
Does this 360 camera make me look fat? 🙂 Brilliant bike keep supermotos alive. Wait a minute didn't you have the springs redone by ktm? I must have missed you mentioning that.
@@LambChopRides well fat jokes aside I think it is such a good subject maybe work it into another video or video on its own. Some new riders never touch their suspension settings, and some heavier guys like us don’t consider swapping their springs, especially on a bike they want to keep. In California for example racetech you can look up based on bike and rider weight. WP via ktm is awesome too. Big guys suffer with bikes that are made for short and thin people 🤓
Thanks for the vid Chopsy, great little bike. By the way keep on riding through lockdown brother, as a biker its our form of physical and mental exercise. If you did bin it I doubt you would break the NHS.
I own a Hyper 821 SP too, this is the reason I never tried the 690SMC, but I really like it a lot. And never dared to try it, as I‘d had that voice in my head, telling me to decide between my Hyper and the SMC. Is the lighter-weight much nicer on the KTM? The Hyper is quiet a power-smc and I love it, but I assume, the KTM has this extrem nice nimbleness the Hyper doesn‘t have.... am I right???
Well because of the super low piston height the piston weight is super low and the engine has this super nice character. Unfortunately everything comes at a cost. Here it unfortunately is the prevention of combustion gas leakage to the bottom of the engine, because you only have two compression rings and the oil ring(lack of english vocabulary here) this makes the perfect seal impossible, especially on deceleration where there is no real pressure from the top and the piston starts tipping and thus leaking exhaust gas into the bottom end because the exhaust mixture is quite Rich while accelerating there this is quite a lot of fuel that will eventually find it's way into the oil... After about a content of 2% the oil won't be able to do it's job right and proper lubrication won't be possible. This is the reason why so many 690's "just die " after 30000kms on the KTM service schedule because it doesn't account for this dilution. when you change your oil ever 2-3 thousand miles this shouldn't be a major concern as fuel levels need about this mileage to reach the 2% mark. You are right though your engine is properly run in as the oil level stays constant/rises. Which means it doesn't blow by oil as much oil to the top as is being added in by fuel. Oil is the thicker liquid-> better seal than having leakage both ways. There are oils out there that account for this dilution and minimize these effects . One that comes to mind is the Motul 15w60 300v Offroad which is specially designed for these super flat piston engines and thus as additives that keep the oil viscous enough. The higher viscosity because the 690engine is prone to becoming quite hot and because the oil WILL get diluted. The lower rod bearing in the newer engines is a "fluid bearing" or is it viscous bearing which is super dependant on viscosity and the timing chain tensioner needs proper viscosity as well. If the oil isn't thick enough these critical components won't be able to do their job right. Hope this helps. Greetings from Luxembourg All the stuff I mentioned above is tremendously explained in german w/english subtitles here: pirateracingtv
Very very interesting and thanks for explaining so well. So answer is 3k oil changes? This is something I'm going to do anyway as 6k to me is too much for such an engine. So you would recommend the motul 300?
The anti-wheelie control isn't linked to the TC. It's linked to the modes or maps: mode 1 is roadmode, and won't allow wheelies, whereas mode 2 is SM-mode, and will allow for wheelies (even with TC on).
aye, seems to address a cpl of your points, rev counter & gear indicator. hope they've not dulled it down with Euro 5, work arounds for that anyways I guess. be a tough one choosing the s'moto or the enduro though, would like to get it dirty.. in theory
140 kilos must be the dry weight. Do you prefer this to the 701SM? I've been debating a 701 for use in the Algarve. Maybe the 690 would be better. I am going to watch all your 690 videos.
I have a 2020 and bought it after watching your videos. I had a slight oil leak from the sprocket seal. Will be upgrading the clutch slave cylinder as a precaution tho. MCN graffix do great graphics kits for these. Just buy it chopsy! At the end of the day you can still sell it later on and get you money back! Then I can copy your mods!! 🤣🤣
Yeah Ive heard the clutch masters can go, I will probably get an Oberon version as a precautionary measure. Sprocket seal is another one Ive heard but not been effected by that either
Anti wheelie? I never knew my bike had that? It's got traction control and abs?? You can disable them by placing a spacer in front of the rear wheel sensor so it can't read signal.
Why are so many roads over there only wide enough for 1 vehicle? You seem to have to come to a stop when there is a vehicle coming the opposite direction. Can't imagine how sketchy it is around a blind corner.
@@LambChopRides I have a 2016 Duke 690 R and I love it. Have had 3 of those in a row. Damn KTM don't make it anymore. The 890R is nice but I don't need more power or speed and the 890 is 30kg heavier. So a SMC-R is next.
Do you have any recommendations for supermotos I’m able to get at 17, I’ve been looking around but I’ve only heard bad things about ones that I would be able to ride, anyway love the bike and great video
Kawasaki just came out with the KLX300SM, you should check it out (basically noone has reviewed them yet but as far as I can tell it's a good option). Also if you can get it or not depends on where you live and the laws in place for 17 year olds
also.. my Duke 690R (with the fancy balanced engine) used about 1 litre of fancy pants oil every 1000 miles for its first 10k miles. Now it's run in a bit it seems to use a bit less. Must be a fair bit of variability with tolerances in these LC4s.
Good video but touring on one I've been riding for 45 years I've ridden loads of different bikes ..I owned a 690 super Moto a few years ago superb hooligan fun but distance no freaking way...most uncomfortable bike I've ever ridden I even fitted the comfort seat not much better ...5 hours your going to be in pain
My 701sm has been really unreliable, clutch slave went, thermostat went and overheated and salt in the wound the fuel pump just failed all in under 4k miles
I rented a 701 in Colorado it had like 1500 miles on it and every time I stopped at a red light the radiator overflow started pissing all over the ground. My friend had an Duke 390 had problems with the thermostat and bike was overheating. KTM makes really fun bikes, but they clealry aren't among the most reliable bikes. I also had a 990 Superduke which I loved, but it was leaking oil and coolant and had to go to like 3 dealers to finally get it resolved.
Very impressed with this bike. I had a '08 Enduro converted to supermoto...unbelievable bike. Now I ride the '17 450 6days supermoto, just like the one you built...loving it. Thanks for review Chopsy!
The anti-wheelie actually allows you to pull perfect wheelies! That's brilliant.
Just the job eh!! :-)
Is that map one with tcs and abs enabled?
Is it the same anti wheelie on the 790 duke? Too scared to attempt it woth it off haha
Really? How?
So far the anti wheelie has never cut in for me on mode one with everything enabled, the front wheel comes up and I haven't trusted it to save me yet, I thought it was broken
Ive got a 2019, and not a problem at all with it.
How expensive is the valve check at 6K miles cost at a dealer?
@@matth8924 I believe its 3 hours labour, so dependent on local rates etc. I’d say c£200. Average service cost isnt too bad, first service was £140, and thats not too bad considering the bike has 2 oil filters.
@Pete Pester I'm looking for a dependable bike to daily. would you say this bike is more reliable than the drz? I know you shouldn't really compare the 690 because its almost twice the bike and twice the cost, im just curious about the longevity and service intervals difference.
@Pete Pester All I needed to know, thanks!
@@blixxy1320 I ride a 701 and my mate is on a drz 400, the only thing I'd say is the drz lacks the power for the road but everything else is fine
Your videos 2 years ago were the reason I bought a new 701 in South Africa 👍 sold all my bikes when I moved back to the UK last year - glad I found your channel again - subscribed! See you on the road soon - 701 v 690
Great review Mr Chops, you and 44th are my 'go to' RUclips channels, thanks for the hard work you put in. I owned a 690 Duke R 2016(TFT dash ), which was the first of the new type engines. It was a fantastic bike, super frugal and never used a drop of oil, even wheeling it through 4th and quick enough for the road, for me anyway. I might just have to go for the SMCR as I do miss my Duke R.
Thanks Jonny really appreciated buddy
On my 2019 690 Enduro R I get 160+ range doing “normal” adventure riding. Agree on engine performance and overall character of the bike. A more complete dash definitely needed and a seat upgrade a must.
Keep the garage diversified, Chopsy. Will say it again. Best moto RUclips reviewer, hands down.
Thank you 👍👍
I swapped my 959 for one at the start of the year and loved every minute , learnt so much about bike control using it and it’s makes you smile every ride
Great fun arnt they!
Seriously rate the 690/701 I’ve been using a 2013 since 2015 covered 20K using a daily as well as longer journeys from the south coast to Scotland they are more then capable as a sole bike. They are gently giants can just cruise or take an absolute smashing off the limiter on the back wheel. I’m planning on going onto the new 2021 smcr next year 👌
Did you have any issues with the 2013? Looking at buying one with 15k miles on it
Love mine chops won’t be getting rid of it any time soon. Don’t need 200bhp to put a grin on your face. You can still surprise some sports bikes on it.
I had an XR650R that I supermotarded . Had it for a few years. I had more fun on that bike than anything else I’ve had !!
With an aftermarket gear position indicator and a loud exhaust I could be very very tempted with one of these as a second bike. Nice review Chops
Ha ha - that knee level 360 shot makes it look like a mini-moto :-D
Nice video though Sir, credit to you.
Got the 2011 smc and love it, when it works properly :)) although only 20k kms electrical, efi and fuel pump issues gave me a hard time. Definetly not a japanese bike, but as I said, it puts a smile on your face when you ride it.
I tried the 701sm and the 701 Svartpilen, opted for the Svartpilen as it suited me better but as above that mix of great engine, light weight and handling is fantastic
I have 2019 5000 miles. Not one issue. Absolutely love this bike.
Would you say it would be a good first bike for a beginner? I don't really want to buy a 600cc sport bike because it's a bit too much for a beginner, yet I really dislike riding 300-400cc sport bike variants.
It would be mostly used for city commuting and hooning, pretty much no highway use.
Would you think that SMC 690 R would be too hard to control? Does it just wheelie under throttle or something like that? I might get myself a DRZ400SM or something similar if 690 proves to be a handful to ride.
@@lazar2175 great bike no it's not a handful. Unless you want it to be. It's has maps 1&2 1 is anti wheelie 2 is full out no traction control. have fun best bike I've ever road. And I've ridden alot of bikes.
Also got my 2019 this february (huge rebate over the 2020 model, while being virtually identical), and i second every point you made.
I've done ~6500km by now, also zero oil consumption, and i regularly get >250km per tank (actually close to 290km on the current one). PowerParts seat is a must, Berotec CUMPAN as rev/oil temp display is a great addon. I recommend also getting the PowerParts airbox lid, that adds a lot of grunt in the low end and makes it a much smoother ride a low revs (30km/h zones, anyone?). SP Connect Moto Pro Mount for the smartphone, the classic SHIN YO mirrors mounted over the controls, Zeta Armor Pro with XC plastics... and the Remus Black Hawk for a much improved (while still not annoying) sound.
Thanks for the gauge tips I have checked that out! Think one of those might make an appearance 😎😎
Fun to see this video after first watching your latest vid on this bike. Ended up being such a savage from here.
After watching your videos on the 690 in Portugal and SMF from the Netherlands, I had a ride on a demo, Twenty metres down the road,,,,,I was sold, In your words chopsie ''what a bike, WHAT A BIKE'' Had a ride around town, went back to the dealer and bought one.
Fantastic machine isnt it, glad to hear you bought one! Think Im going to have to buy it!
@@LambChopRides I think your videos are great for the dealers. Regarding the smc r and the R, KTM must of had loads of enquiries/sales. So they've got to give you a special deal on yours . Keep the vids coming. Well done.
just bought mine yesterday
so happy with it
(USA)
Buy it. Life is short. 👍🏻
For comments like you its bc ppl like me is broke lmfao, i actually went and bought the bih 2day😭😭
@@Gboyzcapo I’m jealous of you! 😭😝
I had a 2009 KTM 690 smr for four years it did not miss a beat
I bought a 690 smcr 2019 as my first bike, went from a 50cc hehe I love it !
Cheers for this Chops, I tend to listen to your videos as audio only in the van at work, you have, without trying, a great way of explaining and detailing your experiences that only a great depth of previous experience can convey, similar to Richi Vida, met you a couple times up NEC, let's hope for a better 2021.👍
Thanks Wayno appreciated, shame no NEC this year eh :-(
@@LambChopRides yes, the annual pilgrimage lol
Great vid. BTW 3:32 looks like the Grom version of this bike 😜
Awesome review as always LCR, honestly there’s no other reviewer or reviewers that have your unique skill set and vast experience, keep up the hooligan even if you can’t show it 🇨🇦
Thanks matey really appreciated that 👍
I have a 2019 SMC R 690 and a Duke 2020 890R. Both great. The Duke 890R IS winning all comparison tests (just slightly) against the best middle weight bike of modern times: The Street Triple. But if I had to have ONE---the SMC R is just the essence of bare bones fun. It walks right by my friend's old skool KTM 990 Adventure as well. FYI: The dash is somewhat "fixed" on the 2021 with a tach and better dash switches and brakes. Rottweiler on this is maybe the best Rotty mod I have felt on ALL/ANY of the 6 KTM's I have put that kit on. A big gob of new power waits right at the twist bit open point off a cruise. It jumps now!
Next year will be doing a 690 SMCR vs Duke 890R comparison certainly. Both bikes geared for fun 😎😎
I currently have a 2020 890R also and was thinking about picking up a 21 690 SMC R glad to see you like them both. Which do you end up riding more often?
@@MistressDarkTruth If I had to sell ONE-I’d keep smc as it is so fun and so different than anything else.
The 2021 version of this looks lush! Tempted!!
Yeah it does! Plastics swap hehe
Hi LCR. Bought one after your launch video in Portimao. Love it. It’s my third bike but its the one I always ride for shorter and twisty trips. Have the comfort seat (46 years old and have a 3 level lombar fusion...), Wings Exhaust and some protection parts. Thinking of replacing the 16’’ front sprocket for the 15’’ tooth to try it out. Have it for 4 months and 1.200 miles. I do have oil leaks from the front sprocket oring + from the top of the clutch case near the oil filter. Agree with everything you mention on the video review. After winter will upgrade for DNA filter + open airbox top from DNA + powercommander V with dyno tuning. Please buy it and keep posting videos on the SMCR project!!!
I too had the countershaft leak and updated with the new bushing, o-ring which has been redesigned. Will see if that resolves this minor issue. I do get some seeping from the oil filter cap but not enough to be concerned. Great motor and lightweight adv bike for me.
Can you elaborate on the protection you put on there? I got the crash pads for the axles, and a nice orange skid plate from IBEX, but i'm looking for either a pair of frame sliders (yes, i know the problems they can present) or even better, a whole cage / crash bars.
@@jangrewe Hi. I have the KTM Powerparts axle sliders, the KTM Powerparts carbon protectors for the engine cases (clutch & ignition), the KTM Powerparts plastic skid plate, R&G frame sliders, R&G handlebar end protectors. The R&G frame sliders www.rg-racing.com/browsebike/KTM/690_SMCR/2019/CP0404/ do get "on the way" when riding fast, I often bump into them with my legs.
@@ClaudioSubtil1974 Thanks, i was also considering the carbon protectors, but they charge quite a bit for those. Considering the 3 points that the axle sliders and a cage would provide, they may not even be necessary (just my theory, i'd need to check).
Thanks also for confirming what i previously heard about the R&G sliders and comfort, so those are definitely off my list then.
I just came across these crash guards, and email the manufacturer if they're compatible with the SMC R, too: outbackmotortek.net/product/ktm-690r-adventure-crash-bars/ - that's probably the most comfortable and least flip-lever'y option.
I have a 2020 as my only bike drive it all year everyday a big joy again 😊
Just bought an older 690 , holy wow. They are special.
I absolutely love my ‘19! It easily keeps up with liter bikes in the twisty stuff. The Powerparts seat is a must though.
I may trade up to a ‘21 just to get the tach and gear indicator.
I'm wondering if its can be retro fitted... 😁😁
@@LambChopRides Oh yeah! That would be AWESOME!
Looks great fun! Personally I'd love a 390 SMCR for backroads blasting - it would be more than enough for me I think. Not on the horizon sadly...
Rumours are ktm making 490 smcr
The 690 is just about exciting enough power wise but soon feels slow. Anything less would be painful.
Oh god it looks even better in this video than in all the shop's ad pics.
Have I got space in the garage for a 3rd bike though....
Great videos on the KTM 690 smc under the corona times, it’s a really fun bike to ride. Cheers from Sweden.
Thanks! 👍
I used to have one of these (chopped it in for a 2020 KTM SDR) and totally agree with you about the gold wheels. Would’ve finished off the bike perfectly!
Great revue and I agree totally. I bought my 2020 in March and have had no problems. I did change the seat however. My butt still hurts but at least it's my whole butt.
allright I am selling a Kidney! ;-)
me too
I'll buy your kidneys and get a nice bit of diced steak from the butchers and make a delicious steak and kidney pie......!!!.👍🤪
G'day Mr Chops.Neat video. Refer to your question, Should you buy one? Answer "Nah". Too expensive for what it is. Riding
it on a long journey would be a pain in the Butt, but it looks good. We've been out of lockdown in Victoria for a week now but
still limited to a 25 kms radius.
Well, I would like an 1100 Hypermotard to go with my 690 SMCR. I think they fit in sufficiently different niches!
Great video again chops 👍
Looking forward to the GSX-S 1000 review as I've got one in the garage and personally think that it's a great machine for the money.
Also was you doing a double take on that female cyclists backside? 🤣🤣
Yeah absolutely agree, GSXS vid will be out soon
Great video, hope your having a good weekend.
Couple of things I was wondering. Firstly is it a good bike for beginner? I want to buy myself one and I have motorcross to superbike experience but my son who is 19 will be getting his license soon, he’s ridden 125 road legal and my superbike on occasion (private land of course 😅)
So will swap over be okay? For me it will be to enjoy super Moto bike again then pass on to my son?
Second of all the bike holds its value so well, would you recommend a new one at about 9k so I can run in myself or to buy maybe a 19/20/21 edition? Keeping in mind these are still 7.5-8.5k anyway.
KR
Nick
Knox is good stuff Chopsy, you're lucky to get them as a sponsor. KTM690 SMC is a bit of a tool. Think I'd be more tempted by the 690 Enduro R though 😉
Yeah very lucky Nick great company, Enduro R is more versatile certainly and only slightly less of a weapon on the streets! 👍👍
I had a 2014 one for 4 months. Bought young second hand with 9000km and no mods other then tail tidy. First ride home a lot of gearbox issues (false neutrals etc no matter how hard or soft i shifted), arrive home and look over it -> Back wheel half of it covered in grime. Cleaned it and looked for leaks but didnt see anything. Next ride same story, look again and find a leak on the shifter, bad O-ring. Back to dealer and replaced it, leak stopped but the gearbox kept having issues (once again false neutrals and going out of gear in acceleration). Sold it a bit later , what a dissapointment.
Even my Husaberg fs570 supermotard (which I bought with the money i got for the 690) had less problems.
I have an older model which I am in love it
the only things I would want different on your bike are:
screen display
I'd prefer two exhausts like the model of 2007
and some wind protection (like the one i have on my own) because that's a machine that yu can travel for few hundred km
Great vid love my 2019 enduro r no oil used at 7k. The only thing lets mine down are occasional false neutrals when changing up with quick shifter. Usually when trying to blat past a row of cars. Agree very revvy engine loves being thrashed. Great fun wet dry or muddy
Yes there is a false netrua but I hardly ever hit it, once you know how to ride the bike (correct lever pressure etc) its fine. My 701 was worse for it, perhaps they have improved it..
I think you said it yourself in the vid a hyper 950 has it all, that's surely worth a purchase 😉
Also the Duke 890 R is less than £10k now.
Which one is better for city hoonin?And a little bit 5-10 km s highway runs weekend.Duke 390 or 690 SMCR?Nice Review tho.
An SMCR by a mile, much more fun and can do motorway stuff 👍
Looks like the 2021 SMCR has a gear indicator and will show revs Mr Chops 👍
Yeah heard that! Wonder if you can retro fit...
@@LambChopRides Yep, I think KTM will sell some of those 😉
Great review I have had my 2019 for a year and half and no issues, is the Rottweiler intake worth the money and is the performance noticeable.
Another great review Chops and we do love a Supermoto👌
sweet bike
it looks like a Grom sized bike from some of them camera shots.
great update
What's reliability been like on the SMCR? Heard some things about them spending a lot of time at dealerships getting fixed? Thought best to hear from an actual owner.
Hi there Mr Chops, do you use the knox riding shirt with inbuilt armour?
Whats your thought?
Great vid as always, looking forward to you upgrades to this bike. Tnx...
Yes I do, Ive had it for a couple of years its fantastic. Close fitting armour is the way forward. Otherwise if its just in a jacket it just moves on impact.
Just have 2021 yesterday, so easy bike . Great reviw
Kinda surprised that not losing oil is worth mentioning nowadays. None of my bikes (from 1995-now) ever burned any noticeable amount of oil (Honda, Aprilia, BMW).
Big singles were they? I suspect not
@@LambChopRides That's correct, all 2-4 cylinders. So it's a single cylinder 'thing'?
Brilliant Review
Seems like your sold on it , Do you have to watch out for Low Bridges with that camera on your back ? !!
Best regards Shaun
haha yes! Tricky off-road with the low hanging trees
Would be great to have an update on the KTM690SMCR. Is it a keeper? Any reliability issues or new mods?
Yes I absolutely need to do an update here 👍
Bought my 2019 ktm 790 duke but now discovered these!. For the fun factor this looks better. Think its worth trading in the duke for this? As long as these can handle the miles and have similar comfort im in.
Does this 360 camera make me look fat? 🙂 Brilliant bike keep supermotos alive.
Wait a minute didn't you have the springs redone by ktm? I must have missed you mentioning that.
Yes correct I did forgot to mention that bit 👍
@@LambChopRides well fat jokes aside I think it is such a good subject maybe work it into another video or video on its own. Some new riders never touch their suspension settings, and some heavier guys like us don’t consider swapping their springs, especially on a bike they want to keep. In California for example racetech you can look up based on bike and rider weight. WP via ktm is awesome too. Big guys suffer with bikes that are made for short and thin people 🤓
Thanks for the vid Chopsy, great little bike.
By the way keep on riding through lockdown brother, as a biker its our form of physical and mental exercise.
If you did bin it I doubt you would break the NHS.
Thanks Mr Dragon :-)
Yep Knox stuff is excellent, and all British too.
Arse trauma 🤣 love looking back at your videos
I own a Hyper 821 SP too, this is the reason I never tried the 690SMC, but I really like it a lot. And never dared to try it, as I‘d had that voice in my head, telling me to decide between my Hyper and the SMC. Is the lighter-weight much nicer on the KTM? The Hyper is quiet a power-smc and I love it, but I assume, the KTM has this extrem nice nimbleness the Hyper doesn‘t have.... am I right???
You cannot not love a 690 series in any form.Cheers.JHB-SA.
My dream bike 😍 will transition from Duke 690 shortly.
Brilliant chops I hope you keep it thanks from Danny
"this engine hasn't burnt a single drop of oil" that my friend is the magic of oil dilution 😢
690 owner here not hating
Sorry, can you explain that?
Do you mean water from the cooling system is leaking in to the oil? poppycock, not on mine coolant level is upper part of max
Well because of the super low piston height the piston weight is super low and the engine has this super nice character. Unfortunately everything comes at a cost. Here it unfortunately is the prevention of combustion gas leakage to the bottom of the engine, because you only have two compression rings and the oil ring(lack of english vocabulary here) this makes the perfect seal impossible, especially on deceleration where there is no real pressure from the top and the piston starts tipping and thus leaking exhaust gas into the bottom end because the exhaust mixture is quite Rich while accelerating there this is quite a lot of fuel that will eventually find it's way into the oil... After about a content of 2% the oil won't be able to do it's job right and proper lubrication won't be possible. This is the reason why so many 690's "just die " after 30000kms on the KTM service schedule because it doesn't account for this dilution. when you change your oil ever 2-3 thousand miles this shouldn't be a major concern as fuel levels need about this mileage to reach the 2% mark.
You are right though your engine is properly run in as the oil level stays constant/rises. Which means it doesn't blow by oil as much oil to the top as is being added in by fuel. Oil is the thicker liquid-> better seal than having leakage both ways. There are oils out there that account for this dilution and minimize these effects . One that comes to mind is the Motul 15w60 300v Offroad which is specially designed for these super flat piston engines and thus as additives that keep the oil viscous enough. The higher viscosity because the 690engine is prone to becoming quite hot and because the oil WILL get diluted. The lower rod bearing in the newer engines is a "fluid bearing" or is it viscous bearing which is super dependant on viscosity and the timing chain tensioner needs proper viscosity as well. If the oil isn't thick enough these critical components won't be able to do their job right.
Hope this helps. Greetings from Luxembourg
All the stuff I mentioned above is tremendously explained in german w/english subtitles here: pirateracingtv
@@GGLiEx good answer mate
Very very interesting and thanks for explaining so well. So answer is 3k oil changes? This is something I'm going to do anyway as 6k to me is too much for such an engine. So you would recommend the motul 300?
So, how did you ran it in? Thank you for the review!
The anti-wheelie control isn't linked to the TC. It's linked to the modes or maps: mode 1 is roadmode, and won't allow wheelies, whereas mode 2 is SM-mode, and will allow for wheelies (even with TC on).
Yes but mode 2 allows more wheelies but it's still on. It will cut power if the bike thinks the wheel it too high or raising too quickly.
looking at getting one to compliment the Superduke.. likely gonna wait for the 21 model now though
Just been announced!
aye, seems to address a cpl of your points, rev counter & gear indicator. hope they've not dulled it down with Euro 5, work arounds for that anyways I guess. be a tough one choosing the s'moto or the enduro though, would like to get it dirty.. in theory
nice one chopsi, but where's the duke, hope its progresing.
140 kilos must be the dry weight.
Do you prefer this to the 701SM? I've been debating a 701 for use in the Algarve. Maybe the 690 would be better. I am going to watch all your 690 videos.
Same bike really 1990, well both the 2020 models are anyway, older ones some slight differences
I have a 2020 and bought it after watching your videos. I had a slight oil leak from the sprocket seal. Will be upgrading the clutch slave cylinder as a precaution tho.
MCN graffix do great graphics kits for these.
Just buy it chopsy! At the end of the day you can still sell it later on and get you money back! Then I can copy your mods!! 🤣🤣
Yeah Ive heard the clutch masters can go, I will probably get an Oberon version as a precautionary measure. Sprocket seal is another one Ive heard but not been effected by that either
Lamb Chop Rides if you do buy it, I think there should be a SMC R meet up for the channel!!
Yes good idea 😁
Compared to the price of other bikes I think KTM's are priced pretty fair.
Anti wheelie? I never knew my bike had that? It's got traction control and abs?? You can disable them by placing a spacer in front of the rear wheel sensor so it can't read signal.
Good vid this, looking forward to future content.
Appreciate it!
I’d expect a quickshifter should only be used in hard acceleration at high revs
Great video as usual, Winchester hill ?
Yes correct!!
Why are so many roads over there only wide enough for 1 vehicle? You seem to have to come to a stop when there is a vehicle coming the opposite direction. Can't imagine how sketchy it is around a blind corner.
These are our quiet back roads, loads of them around my way. Great fun, normally very quiet and 60 mph speed limits
"I wouldn't change anything else"
Moments later...
The ultimate SMC-R build where I change everything.
🤪🤪🤪
Haha 👍
@@LambChopRides I have a 2016 Duke 690 R and I love it.
Have had 3 of those in a row.
Damn KTM don't make it anymore.
The 890R is nice but I don't need more power or speed and the 890 is 30kg heavier.
So a SMC-R is next.
Yes buy one
Tempted. Had a 16 model that used a lot of oil-how did you break it in?
Do you have any recommendations for supermotos I’m able to get at 17, I’ve been looking around but I’ve only heard bad things about ones that I would be able to ride, anyway love the bike and great video
Not much around for you unfortunately.. Sinnis do a very 125 which looks ok 👍
Kawasaki just came out with the KLX300SM, you should check it out (basically noone has reviewed them yet but as far as I can tell it's a good option). Also if you can get it or not depends on where you live and the laws in place for 17 year olds
Is it good as a first bike?
I'm in a conundrum between this or the Z900rs but it's just going to be a fun bike with no commuting and maybe one long trip a year... what you think?
Ktm 690smr
Looking forward to kit corner and live stream thanks👍❤️
Looks like a lot of fun👌🏽
Thanks for posting. With proper tires (if available) can it be used as an adventure bike where there are dirt roads?
Yes absolutely it can, or buy the enduro version 👍
@@LambChopRides Are you referring to the KTM 690 Enduro?
also.. my Duke 690R (with the fancy balanced engine) used about 1 litre of fancy pants oil every 1000 miles for its first 10k miles. Now it's run in a bit it seems to use a bit less. Must be a fair bit of variability with tolerances in these LC4s.
Great vid
All the best chops
Thanks 👍
Hope you buy this one Chops :) would love to see a build project on it :)
Good video but touring on one I've been riding for 45 years I've ridden loads of different bikes ..I owned a 690 super Moto a few years ago superb hooligan fun but distance no freaking way...most uncomfortable bike I've ever ridden I even fitted the comfort seat not much better ...5 hours your going to be in pain
I want to know how many miles before engine rebuild. Doesn't ktm say like 24k miles before top end?
For my 9 and a half, I want blister-inducing LED lighting and a fancy TFT dash, thanks.
leave all the fun to me then, have fun looking at your fancy tft dash
@@rh_8599 I will, coz I've got a 690 Duke R :P
My 701sm has been really unreliable, clutch slave went, thermostat went and overheated and salt in the wound the fuel pump just failed all in under 4k miles
@Dangerous Dave maybe I got a Friday bike, hopefully after I swap the fuel pump I can get some trouble free miles
I rented a 701 in Colorado it had like 1500 miles on it and every time I stopped at a red light the radiator overflow started pissing all over the ground. My friend had an Duke 390 had problems with the thermostat and bike was overheating. KTM makes really fun bikes, but they clealry aren't among the most reliable bikes. I also had a 990 Superduke which I loved, but it was leaking oil and coolant and had to go to like 3 dealers to finally get it resolved.
Tell you what, I'll look after it until the Hypers back on the road....
Deal?
Great review 👍
I don’t think lock downs are the answer just plain old self accountably , there’s nothing like playing in the dirt
Nice one chop's buy it 😂👍