Donner Wireless DMX - How to setup | Review | Mobile DJ Tips
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October 18th, 2019 - Donner DMX
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This is one of those products that is just a no brainier to buy-have-and-own. Now I just need a solid wireless audio solution... or did I already find that too?
You got me curious...when are you going to share your wireless audio find with us? Great video, as usual.
Wireless audio u can get the U3 wireless system... But I would use it more for a.ceremony than rely on it for weddings
I own the Xvive U3 and I've used it for mics and dinner music. It performed perfectly.
You've made references using Alto stealth in past vids. How has that worked for you?
@@PapaRay922 I literally smashed it because it was way too unreliable.
I’m running these for some remote moving heads / crowd blinder clusters at an event. Working very well and have been very reliable
Definitely one of the best purchases I’ve made in the last couple of years. Great video Ricky!
Great video, We have been using this donner system in our shows and they are truly plug and play in most cases, once you plug them in, your dmx cabling is done, we use one receiver per light, it’s expensive to buy them, but the pay off for themselves by saving you time on running dmx wires.
This is an excellent tutorial that answers all the questions I can think of about wireless lights!
Thanks Rick…well done!
Thanks Rick, great log. Good break down info on this product it help me out a lot on the setup. Keep on doing good log on product break down..
Great review! Spot on and extremely helpful for the questions I had
they are ok ive had to replace 3 out 6 in 3years and ive had lag issues in a large crowd no matter the channel but they work great for any event under 500 people
This is super helpful. Love your channel keep doing what you're doing👍
great vid! as always. thanks for the info.
This is a great video! Thanks Rick.
Thanks Rick this really helps me as a beginner
Bro I am always scrambling to find a pin to turn my donners on/off at gigs. Never thought to use the power adapter. Thanks for the tip! Genius
Biro pen (with lid removed) also works well
I always use the charge plug
@@hetheringtonrichard I had to google what a Biro pen is 😆
U don't need a pin to turn it on the button use your thumb and if it doesn't work it means that the button is twisted in the casing and u got to open it up and realign it then it should work right as far as the button but watch out for the battery 🔋 getting looseots not secured at all. Donner made a trash product for dmx use...
Great vid man. super informative! I wound up getting these and going through the instructions...only to find that they were super bad lol. English was def not their first language (no offense to them) Product still rocks. Wound up having to figure it out (not hard at all) super straight forward and you answered all the "Other" questions I had about these. Kudos my friend!
I bought the powered set. Simply mounted the power supply to the last light in the power chain and used the iec link out into a standard 3 pin uk socket. Never need charging just plug the light in and go.
Thank you this was so helpful!!
Ice and informative, I use these they are great 😎🎧👍🏻
First nice vid like usual good job
thanks for the video i was looking for this info regard from texas
I'm glad I came across this vid as I've recently got a pair of chauvet intimidator 160 spot
I'm using a doner transmitter and reciver they work fine on a pair of adj spectra pix master slave but can't seem to get them to work on my chauvet intimidator spot 160
Enjoying watching all your vids during lockdown excellent
I have the donners too very nice for the price also I have been able to Use them with my wash fx 2’s and mega hex pars for master slave
Just Ordered. Will keep you posted. Thanks for your help.
Mr Rick web. Thank you for this information. I am so upset I just learned about being able to change the channels/colors. I had a big event on Saturday where the venue had the same system transmitter, and it kept connecting with my donners. I gave up and didn’t use my moving heads at all 😔 was very upset now I’m even more upset knowing there was a solution lol.
Thank you for talking your time on teaching us.
Awesome video.. Great content.
Great one Rick!
This is a great tips to all 👍👍👍👍
Guys, i have a question, i have 2 gig bars irc and 2 chauvet moving heads, do i need just the donners and the 1 transmitter or do i need to buy the dmx box like the show Express or adj ?
Another thing to mention. They run off 5V power. What I'll do occasionally is plug my showxpress box into one USB port on my laptop, and plug a USB to 2.5mm barrel connector cable into the wireless dmx transmitter to power it.
Then I can walk around anywhere with the laptop completely wireless while controlling the lights.
Depends... i just got mine, and they have reversed polarity of the plug. So i have to break one usb cable and swap the wires.
These are so awesome, I've been using them on my set ups for 3 years. I didn't they wireless battery operated ones, definitely going to buy a set. Thanks!
Decibel Duo hey, have you been using the exact same brand? Have they ever failed to you? I want to go wireless but I am afraid that they lose connection or so
19Jose91 yes, they’re great! Never lost connection and have used them inside a gym with the receiver at my lights and transmitter at the opposite end of the gym.
Thanks man. I hadn’t used it for a couple years and forgot….
I use a Sennheiser G3 system for my wireless audio. Works well. The belt packs. You can use them in a chain to go really far.
What's Up Rick Great Video. I Have The Donner Wireless & They Do Work On Master/Slave Mode. I Use Them With The Kinta FX On Each Side Of My Speakers & They Work Great. Never Had A Problem With Them.
Must be light dependent
I have been using Donner for over a year now and I've been able to run M/S with it without any issues. Remember, you can only use 7 receivers per 1 transmitter (if I remember correctly). So if you have an 8 uplight setup, you'll have the transmitter on one par (set as the M) and the rest on S.
I noticed it has 7 id group colors:
1: red
2: green
3: red + green
4: blue
5: red + blue
6: green +blue
7: red + green + blue
I have RGBWA equipments which include white and ambar colors. That means will they will not operate with these colors?
@@paulo.esteves one thing is the group of the wireless signal (coded by colours, I guess that’s what you refer to with the 7 groups) and the other is your lights colours. This just sends the dmx signal, you’re mixing 2 different concepts. It will work no matter what your lights are like
Thank you!!!!!
Thanks Dj Web!!
Good video, thanks for sharing! I've used those, except Lixada brand. I have problems with one, it shuts off a few seconds after I turn it on (sometimes). I think it may be on a different color, and i didn't even notice. 🤪
Hi Rick, Do you know if this will work on most/any DMX systems (512) etc
great video
What I am not seeing is the ability to set a "2nd receiver" (and 3rd and 4th) to a different dmx color and control them *independently*. Currently, you have a transmitter's color matching a receiver's color. Fine, BUT, can those two (or more) fixtures/receivers operate *independently* when going down the Wireless DMX route using one (1) transmitter? To reiterate and clarify, this set being reviewed operates 7 fixtures ***together*** --as in synced with each other, ONLY. That is limited! Can anyone assist me with this? Correct me if I'm mistaken? Thanks!!!
Can the transmitter be used with a D-fi light (i.e. a Chauvet Freedom series)
If i have 10 lights and want to split them 5 and 5 can you use 1 Is there transmitter
Great video... saw these on Amazon wanted to know if they were any good
I own 2 harbinger v2315s and 2 harbinger v2212s and 1 harbinger v2218 sub. I could go to qsc or jbl?
Just got them charged for tomorrow’s event. Hoping for a good outcome.
Thanks Rick! Will keep you posted.
These are a total game changer!! So worth the investment!
Nice content
So the onluy thing i had a question and i was hoping you would include is what if you have a different kind and model uplights or moving heads like Jmaz and a ADJ heaving heads would they work or zinc together with those dongles
Yes. You need to put a donner reciver into each of those fixtures. Then program them appropriately in the dmx software. See my lighting playlist!
Hey rick thank you for the video it’s awesome now my question is i dont have to plug the power for every one of the lights?
Buy the battery receivers and your good. No power needed.
Has anyone be able to get them connected to chalet freedom sticks with their built in receiver? I tried red (first channel) and dr ch 1 but nothing get through. :(
I'm using these for the first time and i can't figure out how to shut them off when not in use. I've pushed on the button and the lights on the receiver don't turn off... which leads me to think they are not turned off.
can you do a quick video close-up of you turning them on and off??? How hard are you supposed to push the button? Does it click or anything to let you know?
thanks - I didn't realize the transmitter needed signal for them to blink green.
Also another option which I did with my lights is I installed wireless dmx pcp boards in them.. this way u don't have to worry about recharging ...they work exactly the same as this and they pair up perfectly with my donner (and non donner) dongles as well.. I have a video showing how it works in my channel.
I did the same I have about 19 lights all with the dmx PCB boards and it cost me less than what a 5 pack of donner battery powered dongles cost. I haven't tried pairing the Donner up with my boards I may have to until I order some more boards for my new lights.
dale olivier jr if you need /want to try the donners..I have a hook up for some free sample units..just send me ur email
I have a set of the Donner rechargeable ones I had 5 but only have 4 now because one of the batteries failed and almost caught fire while charging. That's why I haven't used them since.
@@abo7uson where can I find individual donner receivers?
Can you connect the transmitter directly to a Dmx controller?
Het Rick. I am thinking of getting a the 7 piece stealth black set and pairing them with my new soundswitch based lighting. Any experience with that combo or advice? I am a longtime ADJ Wifly user. Thanks for the videos.
Kaylen uses the donner with soundswitch
I’ve heard you can run them on slave mode at longest you out your transmitter on the master light
Rick, I use these successfully as a Master/Slave solution. Example: I have 2 Gigbar II's. The master is controlled by the foot pedal remote that comes with the Gigbar. I plug the transmitter into the DMX-out of the master and plug the power supply into the power outlet conveniently located on the back. Next, I plug a battery-powered receiver into the DMX-in socket of the slave and make sure that Gigbar is set to Slave mode. When I use the foot pedal remote control for the master, the slave follows suit perfectly! After all, the DMX output on a master IS a DMX signal. Why did it not work for you?
I think its light dependent
Newbie question, using for CO2 Jet, easiest wireless DMX controller for 3-4 piece system?
Thanks 🤘
I dont use jets
Now question is. If you have uplighting that has built in wireless dmx, can u use the transmitter 2.4gh and set the uplights to corresponding color?
Yep!
Does it work with lights that have different channels that don’t match. Like example the Chauvet TBbt3 is DMX channels 3&9 and the adj inno pocket is DMX channels 6&15 will these still transmit the signal to where they match and work?
I recommend watching my video on how dmx works. Dmx is transmitted in 512 channels. Each light only uses a certain about of those channels.
How many units can you daisy chain together with 3 pin DMX cable before the signal from the first unit( that has the receiver in it) before the signal degradation
Over 100. You will run out of space on your universe before you run out of signal
Great video. Is there a power on/off button the battery powered receivers to conserve battery power?
Yes
If plugged into the in or out port, would it supply power to recharge the battery as it is receiving signal Or find one that will activate once power is turned on to the fixture instead of worrying about the battery.
Yes it would
How long do the batteries last before going out
What about if I put the lights on different channels? Does the 25 receiver limit apply to lights with built in wireless?
Technically yes. But I have since revised this. Its more like 100 pwr transmitter
Hey Rick, nice video 🤗
I have 2 question please, how many receivers can be used on a transmitter? if I buy two sets of 7+1 can I use 14 receivers with a single transmitter? on the same color? And can they only be used for LED par or can they also be used for moving head, more precisely can I put 4 receivers to 4 moving heads and 4 to 4 LED par? or do you recommend that I use a receiver only for the first device and for the following devices normal cable? But if the pars Device they are not close to each other can I use a receiver for each separate device? Thank you very much and I greatly appreciate it if you manage to respond to the comment! 🤗🤗🤗
No limit. Used over 100 of them at an event before
Hey Rick..trying to use 2 transmitters to extend the wifi connection. When plugging in second transmitter to an uplight, it loses the connection. Any thoughts?
I ran into this as well need to do more digging. I think it can be a competition of transmitters
Just wondering when your putting out your 3rd video of the lighting series. I want to how you program your shows using chauvet show Express.
Late November.
Sweet! I appreciate it man.
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Excellent review do you get a signal out from a powered speaker to the control board as well?
No
Great contact. Just out of curiosity can these plugs straight into the DMX controller? Meaning can I put the transmitter in the controller and then the receiver in the light and make it work? Thanks
Absolutely thats what i do ever gig
Saweeeet 🏆
I have donner transmitter with 3 receivers all adapter powered. I want to buy some more. Will they link up automatically if I stay with same brand?
Yep. Just put them on the current color channel you have your current receivers and transmitters.
I think you can use them as Master Slave. Assuming the transmitter and receivers are paired... On the MASTER LIGHT, plug a transmitter in the DMX OUT. select a program to run on the light. Then plug a receiver on another light - DMX IN and then on that light select a DMX channel until you see the same program running on the first light. I believe that it will work. Thanks for the Video
This is correct....I was going to reply with the same thing.
i had issues witht hr donner and airstream where signals drops and i can operate the lights.. i would either have to turn off the airstream to restart or use a dmx cable ti move the donner master away from the airstream
You try different wireless channels?
@@DJRickWeb yeah I tried different channels on the dinner and it still does it. All my lights have different dmx addresses. Does the airstream sometime have issues with reception because it has a wireless network?
Shouldn't since it creates the network
Do you have any idea if when turned on, the battery last longer if no DMX signal is being sent to it?...ie, i'd like to turn them on at 2pm, but not use them until 6 or 7pm once dancing starts
Idk. But the batter last at least 10 hours
@@DJRickWeb yeah...saw another vid and he had his last 8...definitely a long time. I gotta pull the trigger..anything to save in break down and set up
Hi Rick. Do these have any stepping issues while fading colors? I picked up the Chauvet Di-Fi XLR ones and the stepping is so noticable with those it's almost unusable. I was wondering if these are better...
Minor. The fades look smooth to my eye
@@DJRickWeb cool. Thank you! I actually tested the Donner against the Chauvet D-Fi XLR over the weekend and they both do the same thing. Crossfades and chases are barely noticible but fade in and out from black to any color is more noticeable. Chauvet support says this is expected due to design. At this point I'll take the convenience over the limitation. 👍
Would this be reliable for a light show where timing is critical, or would it be best to stick to hardwire?
Hardwire if timing is important. That said we have done music synced light shows with wireless. Just build in delay to the programing
Can u do a custom case for thoes donners
Do they work the same on dmx smoke machines and dmx flame machines as they do on lights
If programed yes
Master slave works fine idk what your talking about,set one light as master and the other as slave or sometimes channel 1, and it should work!
Question, do you need to put terminators on all the lights when using wireless?
No terminators are only nessary for long chains of like 20+ lights daisy chained together with cables
hey if I have battery-powered uplighting am i. able to out one of the receivers on the master uplighting so I can sync all colors to the rest of the uplights without adding each receiver to them?
Depends what uplighting you have.
DJ Rick Web Chauvet DJ Freedom Par
@@DJRickWeb its the Chauvet Freedom Hex Par battrery powered
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Open Question for anyone to answer...So when using the chauvet wash FX2 with 1 of the wireless receivers. What setting do you have to put the light on for it to be able to work ?
I got the light to work with a wired DMX connection (it somehow automatically detected the DMX connection) but not wireless with 1 of the Donner receivers
3 channel or 8 channel depends on how you programmed it
@@DJRickWeb In my setup I have three Wash FX2's running on 8Ch. Mode with the Donners and they work flawlessly
I have a question Rick. I just purchased a set of the Donner wireless DMX dongles. Do I still need a terminator on my last light?
No
@@DJRickWeb Thanks. By the way, you are doing an EXCELLENT job with your RUclips videos. Very Informative. Keep up the good work.
Good video. Where can I find the battery operated ones. No longer on Amazon. Thanks
Just have to wait on a restock
Great show, can I combine my dmx go with donner batteries
Absolutely
Hi i've buyed one of this dmx system, it works well just 2 time and only for 3/4 ours then all the receiver stop to work in the same moment. i think is a problem of the antenna, can you tell me what i can do in this case?
Be sure to change of the intial color channel the wireless is running off out the box. Which is normal red wireless color. Change to blue yellow or teal. As the intial channel can have interferance from other devices
I'm curious to hear more of why you say that the master/slave option with the wireless donners will not work. I have ran 4 ADJ mega hex par lights before using the first light as master, the remaining three in slave mode, and then turning the ir remote signal off for the last three. In doing so all 4 of my lights then adjust and follow along to exactly what the master light was doing. Rick can you elaborate on this a little bit more please?
I was thinking this too. In paper anyway
It might be light dependent I test it three years ago with the adj mega tri par plus lights.
Master Slave definitely work with these for me with 4 Chauvet Intimidator 255s. I use it all the time. 1 transmitter to master and 3 receivers for slaves.
Great video by the way. You are helping newbies a great deal.
@@DJRickWeb I could see where that could be light dependent. Thanks for responding back to me. Keep them records spinnin'
You can run them master / slave. It is light dependant. I run 4 ADJ Pocket Pro master / slave no problems. 100 percent recommend getting some Doners
Rick, do i need to have a wifly for the Donner set up to work, or can plug the transmitter in a normal DMX controller ?
Like an ADJ obey 3?
You don't need wifi. Or wifly.
@2:44 I’m confused cause I thought you could run the donner transmitter & receivers to lights as master/slave. I just saw a RUclips video showcasing exactly that.
Its apparently light dependent. Some work some dont
DJ Rick Web that’s what I thought. A friend of mine has 1 transmitter and master/slaves various lights no problem with the receivers. Generally if the light has dmx in/out then it should work.
Cool, are they ip65 waterproof?
Thanks for sharing this information, Rick. The question I have is will those receivers fit on pars being used as uplighting? I ask this because of the position on the ADJ Hex Par, they are pointed horizontally to the floor. Some pars will have the receivers pointed directly to the floor. Will this interfere with being able to fit without hitting the ground? Thanks for the informative content and keep rocking!
Probably. Just get a short 1' dmx cable and it solves that problem
DJ Rick Web great suggestion.
How do you like the Ape Lab Maxi’s. I’m thinking of possibly going that route and eventually DMXing them with SoundSwitch. What are your thoughts? They are quite expensive but I think the overall quality and build should last a long time.
can the transmitter be plug on the dmx controller will that work out? or the chauvet obey 3?
Yeah...
@@DJRickWeb ok thanks
I would check and test the master slave statement.. It works for me! In Master/Slave, when you link via DMX, the master transmitts DMX!
Master/Slave works for me too.
How do u program it on Master slave ?
I noticed it has 7 id group colors:
1: red
2: green
3: red + green
4: blue
5: red + blue
6: green +blue
7: red + green + blue
I have RGBWA equipments which include white and ambar colors. That means will they will not operate with these colors?
If you're still checking comments, do you know if these work with etc systems? I cannot get the transmitter to recognize signal from my board. Is there a way to change the protocol of the transmitter or anything like that? Thanks!
I am not sure what etc systems are..
@@DJRickWeb ETC? Electronic Theatre Controls? They make light boards and a bunch of other stuff.
@sameshmundra7844 thats cool!
Not sure why you say they won't work master/slave...I have the Chinly brand, which are the Donner knock offs and use them exclusively master/slave and they work awesome. I've even mastered the output of a gigbar to pars, with no issues. Keep one par behind the booth for accent with the transmitter plugged in and control them with the remote.
These absolutely do work as master slave from light to light. I do this often and use the IR remote to control the master
Same here. Works fine!
do you need to add DMX terminators in the outputs not used?
No. Only time you need a terminator is when you have 20 to 30 + lights chained in a line
Well… The second time around will hopefully be better than the first. 😂 Just got the second shipment from Amazon today. Will keep you posted.
How many chargers come with (for example) the 7-pack?
7. They come with 1 for every piece.
transmitter is on same channel as reciever. no blinking to say they're communicating. board and light are working, would you say it's a defective transmitter?
Power cycle the receiver.
Also make sure they are actually on the same channel. The transmitter changes color when it gets a dmx signal.
@@DJRickWeb No dice, 8:04 my transmitter doesn't blink red and receiver (charged and plugged in) doesn't blink green when connected to powered 512 dmx controller.
Never tried it with an alog controller.
Got the wired, a total waste. Need the battery ones BUT what happens if you need to change a battery ? Is it easy ?
Really you dont. Just buy new ones. I just replaced all 5 of my original ones as 2 the batteries mo longer work. Its been 5 years though
DJ Rick web how you by other transmitter do you have the link
No donner has been out of stock lately. Something to do with shipping issues