Actually he was on brink of death after "Battle of the Catalaunian Plains" Roman mistake saved his life, he was ready to burn yourself alive in pyre made of horse saddles
how about any barbarian tribe with the dei mod and on hard difficulty IT'S SO FRUSTRATING they just spam these amazing units into there armies SOMEHOW not losing grasp of their economy it's pissing me off at the moment
One time I was the lombards and I attacked the vicking nations. Conquered them all, but one got away as a hord, and fled by boat to bloody Lisbon. So when I was macking my empire, conquering everything I could, I got to them there, then they fled by boat again to France and besieged one of my cities. O won the siege and killed them off with my army staitioned in France.
@@pewienpanzmiasta6292 exactly, not just conquer cities, you have to kill the hole nation. In previous total war games I could just go around the armies and conquer the cities and boom they are gone. In this one they are persistant.
@@lorddrechelardschaft5609 I like it, it gives more realism to a nation. Like if your last city falls you just dont disapear or turn into rebels you continue surviving and fighting. Its more realistic and harder.
*Audio is a bit messed up during the no.5 pick. Don't know why this happened and I can't seem to fix it. What I was trying to say and got cut off was that you suffer shit loads of attrition. That's all you're missing*
HOW TO DEAL WITH THE HUNS !! Legend you are noob !!! Marrige with Attila when he is Young and HE WILL NEVER TOUCH YOU EVER even in legendary !!! Was playing as East Rome! And then the other AI Factions kills him is over !!!
Well, i dont think he defeated them. The very next year the huns reached Italy, and the Romans showed no resistence. So my conclusion is: the battle between Attila and Aetius should have been a draw or a win for Attila.
@@czoborarpi aetius (which is called ezio in Italian like auditore from ac2 btw) did definitely defeat attila, but he let him flee for reasons which are still being debated to this day, so attila went back to get the rest of his army and marched on rome the next year. You might be wondering why no one was there to defend the capital, well aetius who was the most competent General around was unfortunately executed for treason (because he let attila run away) so there wasn't a good enough commander to defend Rome. As we all know the emperor was weak, the empire was getting attacked from all sides, there was no money left and not enough manpower. So attila had an easy time
How to beat Attila* Play as horde faction* Conquer and settle Britain and Ireland* Build powerful navy* Cower there for decades until Attila dies of old age*
@@tera2314 Well, playing as WRE I think Attila won't be the biggest of your problems, I think first of all you should manage to STAY ALIVE since WRE is a pain in the ass to play
@@b3ygghsas Just burn down everything from England to Spain, then turtle in Italy until all your provinces are fully developed, WRE has the best late-game army that can crush any horde factions if you can sustain a strong economy, but the Huns are really hard to beat though.
I was playing the Venetians in Medieval 2, and was getting ready to mop up the area when the Mongols moved in. Never have I been destroyed so badly that the map over by Jerusalem went dark. I ended up building an army that specialized in fighting them, bringing archers, alot of cavalry, and shielded units. After invading with over 10 armies, and winning, it was probably my favorite save of all time.
The Sassanids in Attila are a total joke. Playing as the ERE, you can destroy several stacks a turn, torch their capital province to the ground, and convert half their settlements to Christianity, and they STILL spit in your face at the prospect of a mere truce. Ultra frustrating
diplomacy in Rome 2 is questionable at best. Hello roman emperor, I know you own half the map and could destroy us next turn if you want but... pay us 5000 gold or we declare war
@@Duke_of_Lorraine Stronger you are, more hated you are. And it would not be funny and too easy if other factions would shit on their pants and just wait you to declare war on them when you're ready to attack them... It's a game after all, too much accuracy would only make the game pointless when you reach some power.
The sassanids are fucking annoying when playing as the ERE. They constantly start wars with me and I have to keep wasting my time I want to spend absorbing europe, fighting and slaughtering their people.
@@salviniusaugustus6567 Games like Eu4 deal with this problem in a slightly more believable way, by making it possible for a single faction to rule only so much territory at peak efficiency (due to "state limit") while the rest are territories. Taking land too quickly will cause people to hate you and form coalitions against you (like historical ones against Rev. France), and many actions are tied to "monarch points" which are produced by the ruler and hired advisors (one allowed for each type) .
Also, NEVER kill Attila with agents except if you got the "just a man" advice. If you defeat Attila one battle per turn and let him run you will have him too close for the next victories and the last killing. If you use agents you will deal with the elite hunic armies for more turns (because attila is not avaliable to hit him in battles while hurt) and you must find Attila through the map again while you deal with their armies.
I'm currently playing Attila as the Geats, I managed to raze most of Roman territories in France and northern Italy (even went as far as to raze Rome itself) after they betray me, while still being in wat with Romans I managed to make 4 doom stacks and started hunting Huns in the balkans like there was no tomorrow, after like 10 or so hordes and 3 encounters with Attila I finally get the event in which he died, I'm currently tracking and hunting down the rest of the hordes and I can finally proudly call myself "THE HORDE SLAYER, KILLER OF ATTILA AND TERROR OF ROME"
Having to deal with sassanid empire to the east , the hunnic hoards from the North, and trying to prop up (or just take) the West is why I personally love eastern Roman empire playthroughs in Attila. Its campaigns like that why Attila is my favorite total war.
@@amp8295 Lol agreed. If they attacked me in the field, I'd just sit in a corner of the map with spears in the testudo and archers behind them. Though they are easier to deal with during settlement battles
I've found forts to be... kind of effective. Although still not that effective against their heavy onagers... Especially if your faction can't field them without capturing them.
I though the hardest faction to deal with is "legend of totalwar". I mean comeon, every single title of total war, this faction conquer the whole map before early game finishes.... How is one suppose to beat this faction with all the cheese, save scum, glitches, teleports that is bestowed to this faction? Absolutely undefeatable! Does anyone have any experience with beating the "legend of totalwar" faction? Please help!
There is one strategy I've seen that makes dealing with Hunnic armies a little more manageable, and it's actually very similar to the strategy you used for the Mongols in Medieval II: using the defensive stance for an army creates something much like Medieval II's forts, and in that fort you pack the best siege equipment you have, usually giant onagers. When the battle begins, position whatever regular troops you've got defensively at the encampment's entrances and use the onagers to hammer away at the Huns' general from the safety of your fort.
Rajputs in Broken Crescent mod of Medieval 2. I was playing as Cilician Armenia and when I reached India, all other lands were already conquered, but I couldn't fight against their elephants without elephants. It took quite much time to find the proper tactics, create armies of horsemen with javelines and finally defeat them. I actually don't use javeline units, that's why first I couldn't do anything against them. The difficulty was also BC-s regional recruitment system. You can recruit units only from their historical regions. Most part of my armies that faced with Rajputs in the beginning were Arabic, Afghani and other mercenaries. generally much weaker than my original troops.
The Tumurids were a nightmare, it was scary when I saw them expand westwards like a schadow covering the worldmap. I was glad I was safe on the British Isles and Americas XD
Merchants would obviously be number one on his list. For a serious answer though, I think most experienced Total War players resent how much customization was taken away from the games starting with Empire TW. Rome 1 and Medieval 2 had great modding tools and options for custom battles. I was so disappointed when I tried a custom battle in Empire for the first time and saw how limited my options were. Really soured my experience of the game.
Realm Divide as a lategame challenge mechanic instead of Huns/Mongols/Chaos. Because it actually gives you play around features that don't focus on cheesing or just besting an unending horde of baddies (once you know about it of course. I think everyone ot heir ass smacked by their first Shogun 2 run)
Yeah I'm surprised they're not ahead of the Mongols on the list. The only reason I can think of is that they show up so late you can pretty much dominate the map by then.
@@CentreSwift yeah, but that means that they will most likely not wipe you out, but they will be still hard to deal with. Mongolians can be beaten by conventional tactics. But against the timurids you can just go "total war" and spam high tier armies with lots of cannons and pray. (Seriously. I never found a satisfying way to deal with those elephants besides throwing entire armies against them)
@@paulenan9636 I found getting lucky with a stack without 🐘 helps when spamming heavy horse archers and a general, group them in a 'ball' and run around until the ammo is gone then run (or charge if they're weak) and you've killed most of them without taking much damage. While there are 🐘 it sucks but I just overwhelmed them with more horse archers focusing on non-🐘 first as the 🐘 soak up arrows. Without horse archers I would just prey in a citadel with spears archers and a catapult or 2. :)
@@CentreSwift well, honestly, without Elefants you can do whatever, cause now you have a normal Mongolian-like invasion to deal with. The problem is the elefant-part of the army. That is usually the reason i spam armies. To kill every last elefant, so I can finally deal with the rest by conventional means.
Did they change how Chaos worked in Warhammer 2? In Warhammer 1 I remember them constantly spawning as long as one Chaos stack is left alive. You have to kill Archaon and then wipe out all armies to stop chaos from coming back.
Same I'm pretty sure that's how it works still in Warhammer 2. You have to kill (have currently recovering from wounds) Archaeon. Then eliminate EVERY chaos stack. Or they keep spawning armies.
I think you do not have to wipe them out, you just have to keep them in the north of Kislev. Which is not that hard with the regular warrior of chaos armies, but an absolute mess with the warherds of chaos
In Mortal Empires Warriors of Chaos is a tribal faction like a Beastmen. So for defeating WoC you should eliminate all their hordes(include Archaon, ofc). After WoC is defeated Chaos Invasions stops. Spawning doomstacks - they are another factions - Servants of Chaos and Slaves of Chaos.
I fought the Mongols when I was using my third ruler, I were playing as Holy Roman Empire and had more soldiers than them, but thease soldiers were spread throught all my territories and I could only take a small fraction of them to fight the Mongols. That were rough, my heir had a really bad time trying just to hold them and stop the advance of their troops, and when my king arrived with his special army (a lot of my best knights trained for years only for this battle) he quickliy died with the attack of a canon (I had very bad luck) and his army lost his moral and were compleetly raped. So I had to fight only with my previous heir (the new king now) and his weaker army... No joke, I am sure they had 10x my number of soldiers, at least... But I managed it, I used some type of Blitzkrieg, I attacked one flank of their army, where there were generals more separetad from all the other generals, and than the other flank, and the other... with time I were able to weak them so much that my new king could kill them all on a last battle. Sadly he died after that, for his age, but he wasn't the last king's son anyway, probably even older than him. In the end I won and lost only one city (a city that I basically left behind in order to have time ro organize my troops), but that were rough. That were rough body.
"Chaos is not hard to deal with" when the game first launched they were a nightmare, but ironically CA completely nerfed Chaos by putting the Beastmen into the game. Beastmen aren't that hard to fight, but they work on the exact same mechanic as chaos (destroy cities to gain resources to buy troops) and they get their start much, much earlier than chaos. in the playthroughs i've done since the beastmen launched, they've generally swallowed half of what chaos would have by the time chaos shows up, which means chaos isn't as strong as the would be. The second part of my tactic for chaos (I played vamp counts) was to take over and fortify enough regions to keep a good bank, then raze an entire line of provences as a breakwater. between doing that, and the beastmen, chaos simply cannot fund itself into being a threat. it's armies are still really strong, but instead of dealing with 12 of them you're dealing with 6 at best, and you can bait them into traps where you can easily start killing them. chaos went from a nightmare to almost a joke.
I recently had a pretty convincing success against the Chaos by employing agents to Block Army their doomstacks, when you do that their armies disperse and are not close enough to support each other and you can pick them one by one via auto-combat by bringing 2 or 3 armies. You can even bait them, if you have two Chaos stacks next to each other, block one of the stacks, leave one of your armies a 70-80% marching distance from the other and when their turn comes, the Chaos army that's not blocked will attack your army but then you can withdraw and on the next turn attack the isolated army with two armies of your own and just auto. 1v1 auto-combat rates you pretty poorly, however two armies vs a chaos stack can outright destroy it with losing only like 10-15% of the troops, that can be replenished in a turn or two.
I'm liking this video for no other reason than the fact that you quickly just started the countdown. No dumb intro. No logo showcasing. No nonsense. Just getting right to the reason we all clicked. Thank you.
I got to say that strategy for dealing with the Mongols by luring them into forts then assaulting them, thereby negating their excessively ridiculous advantages on open ground is inspired and brilliant. I'm definitely going to try that next to round and I'll probably try something similar in a couple other TW games just to see if it works in slightly different circumstances.
I’ll never forget when playing the HRE in medieval 2 I came across the mongols who had all of Anatolia down to Egypt and I couldn’t hold any settlement for long and just when I broke through...the tumurids or however tf you spell it showed up
My game basically became Warhammer lol, 5 generations of Emperors holding Thorn against a never ending horde of Timurids. I gave multiple Polish territories to Papal States to act as a buffer between me and the Timurids. The Mongols have taken over the entirety of the Middle East.
For the huns in attilla, just bring a few catapults and good units for defense, and when your gonna be fighting the huns build a fort. It makes it a lot easier. But as far as the most difficult faction to beat in a total war, in my opinion it would be the Hojo in shogun 1. Because if you don't deal with them in the early game, they will spam castles and armies. It is a slog to get threw all of it. If you start on the other side of the map, your screwed. Oh yeah did I forget to mention that they have several geishas and assassins? It also doesn't help that the ai in shogun 1 is actually decent and wont easily be cheesed. And that unit control in shogun 1 is garbage (and you cant choose how your troops are deployed while attacking in a field battle).
The Mongols should be higher up in my opinion, also the Timurids should be there. But one of the most annoying factions that I encountered in a Total War game were those desert people who live in the south in the Lord of the Rings mod in MTWII. They just spam units and walking to their cities takes ages because they're basically at the edge of the map.
You mean the Haradrim, they're pretty strong I must say. Especially in my Dol Amroth campaign, where you don't have access to particularly good archers and you can't exploit their low armour stats, in melee they tend to go toe to toe with your heavy infantry because of their extremely high attack stats, the best strategy I found was to pin them down with militia units and cycle charge/shoot them in the back, granted you're gonna lose a lot of units.
@@scorpion5574 Yeah those are the ones. It's so annoying because when you've killed them they just spam a couple more doomstacks your way. I don't know if this is true but they seemed to move their doomstacks trough the desert much faster than I could get to their cities too.
@@defendkebab797 Oh yeah that's the last stand script, It's pretty annoying. Idk what faction you're playing but generally archers and javelines are their main weaknesses, if they have Oliphaunts with them don't be afraid, those things just melt down against javelin fire, personally I find the Orcs of the misty mountains more annoying, they're literally everywhere and won't stop sending full stacks of trash at me
Actually another piece for why they’re difficult to deal with: if you do anything to any of their allies, they hate you for the rest of the game and diplomacy is absolutely impossible
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Another difficult things about the Huns is when they offer you peace, sometimes with money. You want to stop fighting them, but you don't want to hurt relations with your other allies.
Mongols usually end up wiping themselves out trying to meat-grinder their way through my settlements. I'll never forget the first great seige of Antioch where 5 Mongol doomstacks died to my English Spearmen and Longbowmen in a single battle. They took the city in the next go immediately after but by the end of that they had maybe 1/3rd of their forces left and I had plenty of reinforcements waiting.
@@milfredcummings717 Serbs celebrates New Year at 13-14 January meanwhile rest of the world celebrates it at 31 December-1 January...We use Julian calender so as Makedonians, Bulgarians(i think) and Russians(i think)...it`s also called Ortodox New Year..
Weirdly enough, the Huns have always been nice to my faction in TW:Attila. Even during my two games as Eastern Rome, he was willing (and did) to commit political marriages. I've gotten so used to it that whenever I play Attila, I welcome the arrival of Attila, since it means I've now gotten my roaming attack dog/rear guard.
@Claystead is it guaranteed to work because Attila has fucked 3 of my games as eastern Roman Empire and the sassanids appear to help him too. But thanks I will try it
Tokugawa in TW:S2. You start at war with the Oda, who are the strongest clan early game, your starting province isn't great (even though it's not bad) your clan Traits are completely useless and you start as Vassal, meaning you cant declare Wars, can't allie with other clans, lose a big portion of your money every turn and the Imagawa (clan you're vassal of) can drag you into multiple wars with pretty strong clans. Furthermore, your special unit isn't that good
Hattori and Uesugi are even worse. With the Tokugawa, all you need to do is bribe the Oda army (doesn't work on legendary iirc) or wipe it out in the first turn. Then you march to Owari (one of the richest provinces in the game) and take it. Then you put your Metsuke in Owari and replenish your losses. Once you have done that, simply wait for other factions to declare war on you (you can also bait them by leaving Owari undefended). Ironically, the higher the difficulty the easier things get, since factions will be more likely to declare war on you. Just fight all you neighboours that dare to go at war with you and expand into Kansai. By being a vassal, you will not have to worry about your western front, since the Imagawa usually don't go at war with the Hojo and the Takeda (their only neighbours) and they don't betray you, unless you trigger Realm Divide. If someone ever manages to get to the Imagawa territories or if some of their neighbours declares war on you and wipes them out, you'll kill two birds with one stone: you are now an independent faction and you have two more provinces to expand into. Once your position in Japan is consolidated, just play as you would with any other faction. For your army, just spam Ashigaru and, optional, light cavalry in the early-mid game. In the late game add some samurai tier cavalry, if you want. Never use Samurai, Warrior Monks or siege units. That's basically how you win in legendary with the Tokugawa and, despite their shitty "bonuses", they're not particularly hard, not even at the start of your campaign. The Hattori and the Uesugi on the other hand...
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki I agree that the Hattori are very hard too, but the Uesugi? They are not hard! The warrior monks are great and yours are better and cheaper. You can take Sados Island early and thus have a easy to defend province with a gold mine! You can allie with whatever clan gets the Hold over the Tohoku Region and thus only fight on the Takeda front! Furthermore, you get more money from trade, combine that With Sado island and you got yourself a good economy.
@@thatoneguynextdoor8794 The Usegi are one of the worst faction in the game (the third worst, to be precise: the first and the second are the Hattori and the Tokugawa respectively). Their bonuses are crap, except for the one that increases the monk success chance, which can be put to sume use. The trade income bonus is negligible, since you make most of your trade income via sea routes, and you don't want to trade via sea, because it will make you discover more clans, and the more clans know about you the more factions are likely to declare war on you. The boost to their warrior monks sounds good in theory, but is bad in practice. Warrior monks are among the worst units in singleplayer, because they are not cost-effective, since they take two turns to recruit, not to mention their insane upkeep cost (even when reduced by the Usegi's bonus) and all the kokus and time you have to invest in order to be able to recruit them. The Usegi also start with a vassal, which is more of a con than it is a pro, because more clans will be able to declare war to you in the very early game. Lastly, their starting province is shit: it is large, so it will take more times for your armies to move within it; and it also borders many other clans, which means that you will be prone to multi-front wars. And wherever you expand on Honshu, there are no easily defensible provinces you can fortify. Infact, you'd be better off abandoning Echigo entirely and going for Sado (whose proximity to Echigo is the only thing that saves the Usegi from being utter shit and having the worst start). Once you take Sado, you should conquer the Mogami and the Date and then expand to western Japan. Thus, I would dare to say that if a clan has so many flaws and it forces you to expand in such an unnatural way to be played effectively, one would not go out on a limb saying that it is one of the worst and most difficult factions to play.
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki Warrior monks aren't worth it? Then your experience is pretty different to mine. You can't make Full-Stacks of them but in my opinion they are great nonetheless. Bow warrior monks are easily the best ranged unit for every clan except the Chosokabe, for them it's the Daikyu-Samurai. Bow warrior monks have great reload and accuracy skills. Naginata warrior monks aren't bad either, since they are good in melee and have that ability (forgot its name) that weakens morale of nearby enemies. While it's true that it's a long way to warrior monks, and an expensive upkeep, it's not true that they don't pay off. Yes, your starting province is a big pain in the A**, and yes, the uesugi are one of the harder clans, but I would definitely not place them amongst the 3 worst.
In Rome II: Total War, I would say the Desert Kingdoms are the hardest challenge after they have gained access to their best units. Particularly Kush with their 20 armor penetration damage high tier infantry, and Masaesyli with their Numidian Noble Cavalry and Desert Legionnaires. Nabatea and Saba are also not to be underestimated. All this especially if you are using Better AI Recruitment and More Aggressive AI mods together like I currently am. Nabatea and Masaesyli are my favorite factions now, and I use an All Factions Auxilia mod to gain access to Kush's insanely high damage infantry. I don't even use Sebidee's unit mods or any unit mods now, just Auxiliaries. The game is complete with just that, in my opinion
Sadly, the AI in Rome 2 is stupid and ends up making full stack armies of slave infantry instead of making decent armies. Mods fix it, mostly, but it's still silly
Dwarves > Greenskins? Wtf? In my experience orks win over dwarves(as well as 80% of the AI factions in the "old world") in almost every game and they have fcking Waaagh mechanic, which allows them to spawn full army with no upkeep needed, which follows their main army. And they get top 3(mostly right after me and my buddies if we play co-op. Or after me and Lothern if it is single player) by strength rating every campaign i play unless they have very big unlucky disaster during first 10 to 15 turns. PS: i'm talking AI vs AI, and AI vs Player difficulty, not PvP How come gnomes are better and greenskins aren't even there, Legend? I was sure #1 will be orks when i saw #2.
I completely disagree, in all my campaigns the Dwarves win over the Greenskins handily or at least to a standstill. The dwarves almost never get eliminated by the AI in my games.
Hayden Fowler I’m inclined to agree with you. Every single ME campaign I have played that is not vampires or green skins, (where I attack early), the dwarf faction(s) rule half the world in the late game and become the final enemy to face. Most prevalent when I’ve played the dark / high elves, where I have to attack multiple points so the AI’s armies don’t all turn up at one point. I have only once seen the green skins last past turn 100-150 because chaos was attacking and the dwarf armies turned to fight them. The orcs still died out by turn 200.
@@haydenfowler8297 Are we talkig WH2? Are we talking Old World Campaign? Are we talking highest difficulties? Because u r the first one(excluding Legend) to say(to me) AI dwarwes have some kind of a chance against orks. In my experience EVERY dwarven faction is dead by turn 80 and their territories belong to orcs. And i'm not even exaggerating.Also orcs LOVE to confederate other orcish tribes more often than dwfs
@@vitorossi7839 I'm talking both and on all difficulties, the dwarves almost always conquer the whole badlands on my games. The only time they don't is when I attack them first , but if it's just them vs the ai they always win in my experience.
I'll never forget my first WH2 play, standard boring Empire. I had taken all the lowlands all the way to the eastern mountains (including the Vampire lands), and had allied with the Dwarves. Now it was getting to be "that time" (Chaos time!) in the Campaign so I was being a bad ally, not helping the Dwarves...they had gotten pushed back to a SINGLE settlement by I think it was a confederation of the Greenskins...upon defeating the majority of my Chaos foes, I went to check on the weee Dwarves, expecting they were still turtled up in their last camp...They had rallied and pushed back the Greenskin confederation to almost the entire southern edge of the map LOL
@LegendofTotalWar There is something messed up with the Norsca part. I think you also forgot to mention that Norsca is the cheesiest faction ever made: chariot and mammoth spam are very annoying to fight against. I would have agreed with you about the dwarves until 3 months ago, but since the Vampire Coast release, they get destroyed pretty consistently by the Greenskins. I totally agree about the Huns. I think they are also affected by a bug that doesn't register when you kill Attila, so you actually have to wait until he dies of old age. Also: why are there no Timurids on this list? Aren't they the real ultimate enemy in medieval 2?
Yes, but theoretically that should only happen 3 times and the fourth (or even the third) you should be able to kill him for good and put an end to the Hun threat. However in my campaign I killed him in battle at least 5 to 6 times. By that I don't mean that I defeated the army, I mean that I actually focused his unit, surrounded it and leave no survivors among his bodyguards
Also, here's the thing with the Huns. If you're playing as a Roman faction, it's actually easier to to defeat the Huns. Here's the reason. The Romans (particularly the Western Romans) have the best ability to withstand their missile units because certain troops have a 100% block rate when they go into a stationary testudo. If their missiles are withstood, they become pretty weak after that. You also must position your troops in a circular or semi-circular form when fighting them on the battle field-- even better if you can position yourself at the edge of the map. When fighting in a settlement or city, you simply block off the choke points into the center. This even works when you've got two full stacks against you and your garrisons are beefed up at the choke-point settlements (if you play the Roman factions correctly, consolidating your empire into a bottle-necked version of itself where only certain settlements can be attacked, and beefing up your garrisons in those). I disagree with your point on complete annihilation in battle. While it's true if they aren't annihilated in battle and instead recruit crap mercenaries, they also recruit more of their own units again anyway, and in the process, their remnants will continue to attack you even afterward. If you annihilate them, yes, they'll respawn, but they'll respawn waaaaaaay far away in the east where they'll have to fight their way back to get to you again, as opposed to simply recruiting on the spot when they're right next door to you after being defeated, and also causing your garrison or army that just fought them the inability to replenish. But still, I see what you're saying concerning your strategy; I think your strategy would work very well! Just in my own experience, though, I find my strategy very efficient. Cheers for this list!
Hattori Bandits. They need multiple buildings to be recruited, that you have to research and stuff, but they even lose a 1v1 with Yumi Ashigaru (Bow militia) both in ranged and melee combat
@@thatoneguynextdoor8794 Hattori Bandits have pretty fantastic stealth abilities paired with a full-range bow and improved accuracy, so yes a saw is better at cutting through a block of wood than a scalpel but that doesn't say anything about the value of a scalpel as a tool. I'd also argue that the bandits aren't elite so much as a faction-unique side-grade (as opposed to upgrade). Notably, their recruitment cost and upkeep are the same as said Yumi Ashigaru. Plus they can totally cheese out the AI, it's pretty funny.
Against the Mongols, the trick was to find and choose battlefields with suitable high ground, then use a couple of sacrifice units to keep them busy, while the rest of your troops rain down death upon them from high ground, target their generals, then they just melt away after that, ensure you have a good general with you while you do this. I've melted several Mongol Armies with this strategy, just make sure you have reinforcements nearby to resupply your Army, when more of their Armies come to attack you. This was a really easy cheap method to bring their invasion to a halt. Just make sure to use spies to be aware of their movements so you don't put yourself in a terrible situation, and so you can pick the best battlefield for this strategy, usually on steep hills with limited access, which creates natural choke points and areas where their Armies get held up against your sacrifice units. Make sure your sacrifice units have high shield and health values and maximum morale to last as long as possible. This method is very effective if you know what you are doing. Makes the Mongols seem easy after a while. Use units with maximum missile damage, and don't be afraid to have at least 2 trebuchets to help kill their generals and 2 cavalry units to finish them off and cause maximum damage
Well atleast its historically accurate that the hunns are so OP they pretty much changed Europe directly and indirectly through force and intimidation. Btw Total War Attila is the best game because the game hates you.
No they didn't. Did everyone forget Atilla himself was driven off by the Western Romans and Visigoths at the Battle of Chalons and neither the Huns or Mongols ever came back? The furthest west the Mongols went was the edges of Eastern Europe, where they were beaten back and driven off. The Huns never came back to Europe either, and the alliances that were formed to combat Atilla fell apart rather quickly and things returned to normal. The impact Atilla had was that there were more dead people and burned villages than normal.
Strat for the Mongols in Medieval 2 Step 1: Get trusty Citadel on their warpath (I used Thorn in Poland) Step 2: Put your best general there Step 3: Buckle up Step 4: Fight like 30 battles at said Citadel Also bar none the most annoying factions to defeat are the horde factions in Barbarian Invasion. (I had the hardest time tracking down the Roxoloni) because you have to literally kill every last one of them. It's so shitty
totally agree. Another advantage of the huns is their catapults which are like very accurate massive machine guns. Thankfully they only get 2 per stack but if you are facing a siege against 3 of their stacks, good luck.
Medieval II once you have cannon towers, against the Timurids. Sally out when they besiege you, but stay behind your walls, behind your towers. Your towers will shoot at their troops for an hour while they don't move.
Top 5 underrated units would be nice to see. I agree on Atilla too, got lucky to get an alliance with the Huns on my Franks campaign, we've been best friends ever since destroying Romans together and all that. :)
I surrounded Attila with two full stack Roman Legions as he was retreating away after destroying his last army. He hid in a forest with his one remaining cavalry unit and all i simply had to do was tighten the noose until he had nowhere to go. The Huns were finished that day and the world became Rome’s for the taking!
The worst part about dealing with the Dawi is that they seem to be programmed to hole up in their stupid holds whenever they feel even slightly threatened. And it's even worse if you're playing as Vampire Counts/Coast cause you have to deal with that fucking untainted attrition.
Usually I'd say list vids are lazy and stupid but yours are always going to be filled with great expertise. I think it's a concise way to flex your muscles without having to show a super long campaign. Good vid!
Imo hardest part of Timurids and Mongols is just how many troops they can muster, it's problem with the other factions but it's just the most thorny for them. I was playing HRE and i spent like 5 generations of Emperors just trying to fight off the Timurids, they weren't killed in battle or assassinated, they died of old age after fighting Timurids for so long. I ended up naming the fortress they defended Cadia because of how many people in that blasted place have spent their whole lives fighting off Timurids. Plus i think they ran out of elephants so i just resorted to using guns and crossbows to beat the hell out of their horse archers.
I sure can. I'd like to do this one sometime. It's probably not going to be top comment this time because its usually one of the first comments that make it. We'll try get this one through soon though
One thing any TW player should've learned from Attila and onwards to Warhammer is to make the very best possible use of heroes. I'd be beating the Huns on auto after my 3 captains have done a tremendous job reducing every stack to about a third of its strenghth, then you go in with 2 full stacks (as WRE), having maintained peace for as long as humanly possible beforehand. As for Mongols, try them on the Stainless Steel 6.4 mod (Late Era) where Byzantium, if it gets the flying start it is capable of, can actually build up armies fully capable of defeating the Mongols 1 on 1 or 2 on 2, sometimes even 1 on 2. Nevertheless, the Mongols are even stronger there with their units and they start with dozens of stacks, the fighting is quite simply monumental, the prize is Caucusus, Middle East and Persia.
This was helpful. I have a campaign as the Ostrogoths, I was able to beat back the first wave of Huns with a coalition of allies in Greece and the Balkans, which is where I settled. The coalition made a nice buffer between me and the Huns. I then made peace. The second wave came, getting rid of a few of the buffer zone states - I let my allies lose territory rather than fight the Huns myself. Now I’ve watched this vid, I’m convinced I’ve made the right decision, I don’t want that smoke! That said it would be nice to expel the Huns, but I think I’d prefer to go on a ‘crusade’ to Cyprus and Jerusalem rather than fighting the Huns if they are that difficult to deal with
The Norsca part is really jumpy. Might just be my computer.
it's the video
I have the issue too
Yea I got that
Problem with the video
He's not using vysnc or anything like that.
"And killing Attila is not easy"
It is highly accurate either in realtime history, or in game
Dude didn't even die from battle but from partying
Actually he was on brink of death after "Battle of the Catalaunian Plains"
Roman mistake saved his life, he was ready to burn yourself alive in pyre made of horse saddles
Then dies of a nosebleed
Nosebleed can do it
Vodka has entered the chat
Attila has left the chat
These are getting more and more entertaining to watch, definitely a good idea
how about any barbarian tribe with the dei mod and on hard difficulty IT'S SO FRUSTRATING they just spam these amazing units into there armies SOMEHOW not losing grasp of their economy it's pissing me off at the moment
all of the factions in attila leaving their homeland to settle 5000 miles away to harass you for half the game
One time I was the lombards and I attacked the vicking nations. Conquered them all, but one got away as a hord, and fled by boat to bloody Lisbon. So when I was macking my empire, conquering everything I could, I got to them there, then they fled by boat again to France and besieged one of my cities. O won the siege and killed them off with my army staitioned in France.
It is why i love attila. This game is just more challenging than others.
@@pewienpanzmiasta6292 exactly, not just conquer cities, you have to kill the hole nation. In previous total war games I could just go around the armies and conquer the cities and boom they are gone. In this one they are persistant.
Challenging ? its tedious nothing else dealing with this migration shit
@@lorddrechelardschaft5609 I like it, it gives more realism to a nation. Like if your last city falls you just dont disapear or turn into rebels you continue surviving and fighting. Its more realistic and harder.
Top 5 most difficult starts in total war
Hank Most of em would be in Shogun 2.
Clan mors
Hank Bavaria in Napoleon Total War.
Including mods, Khwarezmian Late Campaign on SS 6.4
GREAT IDEA MATE!!!
*Audio is a bit messed up during the no.5 pick. Don't know why this happened and I can't seem to fix it. What I was trying to say and got cut off was that you suffer shit loads of attrition. That's all you're missing*
Fuck, we wil fuck them up after
HOW TO DEAL WITH THE HUNS !! Legend you are noob !!! Marrige with Attila when he is Young and HE WILL NEVER TOUCH YOU EVER even in legendary !!! Was playing as East Rome! And then the other AI Factions kills him is over !!!
@@Frozenmenss1 Как го нареди набързо! :D
"Assassinate the mongol leaders"
Yeah....
Ask the Old man of the mountain at Masyaf castle how that shit went lol
Underrated comment!
Al Mualim
I didn’t get it, can somebody explane to me please ?
@@utku1441 Assassins Creed 1
Nuketheplanetnow6 thanks mate I get it now.
Top 5 disaster campaigns you enjoyed playing in Total War.
Archaon "I am lord of the endtimes"
Attila "Hold my drink."
Attila
@@fadirabadi3071 I know, but I really can't be asked to change it.
@@Claudiustheimmortal click on the three dots to edit.
@@leewarner1780 I know I was just being really lazy, I've changed it now.
*Hold my qımız
Defeating the Huns but not wiping them out: that is actually exactly what the Roman general Aetius did.
Johnny Thunder He was a smart guy, he knew about the AI exploit.
Well, i dont think he defeated them. The very next year the huns reached Italy, and the Romans showed no resistence. So my conclusion is: the battle between Attila and Aetius should have been a draw or a win for Attila.
@@czoborarpi aetius (which is called ezio in Italian like auditore from ac2 btw) did definitely defeat attila, but he let him flee for reasons which are still being debated to this day, so attila went back to get the rest of his army and marched on rome the next year. You might be wondering why no one was there to defend the capital, well aetius who was the most competent General around was unfortunately executed for treason (because he let attila run away) so there wasn't a good enough commander to defend Rome. As we all know the emperor was weak, the empire was getting attacked from all sides, there was no money left and not enough manpower. So attila had an easy time
Aetius speech before battle was "Let's get down to business and defeat the huns"
@@loods2215 But then Atilla was bought off anyways and never sacked rome or Ravenna (the actual capital at the time)
i once defeated Mongols as Russia - still my greatest achievement in Total war.
How to beat Attila*
Play as horde faction*
Conquer and settle Britain and Ireland*
Build powerful navy*
Cower there for decades until Attila dies of old age*
It would take a long time lol since Attila is not even born yet at the start of the campaign
Yes it does
Horde faction is not necessary . You can be either celt or western rome for that .
@@tera2314 Well, playing as WRE I think Attila won't be the biggest of your problems, I think first of all you should manage to STAY ALIVE since WRE is a pain in the ass to play
@@b3ygghsas Just burn down everything from England to Spain, then turtle in Italy until all your provinces are fully developed, WRE has the best late-game army that can crush any horde factions if you can sustain a strong economy, but the Huns are really hard to beat though.
I was playing the Venetians in Medieval 2, and was getting ready to mop up the area when the Mongols moved in. Never have I been destroyed so badly that the map over by Jerusalem went dark. I ended up building an army that specialized in fighting them, bringing archers, alot of cavalry, and shielded units. After invading with over 10 armies, and winning, it was probably my favorite save of all time.
The Sassanids in Attila are a total joke. Playing as the ERE, you can destroy several stacks a turn, torch their capital province to the ground, and convert half their settlements to Christianity, and they STILL spit in your face at the prospect of a mere truce. Ultra frustrating
diplomacy in Rome 2 is questionable at best. Hello roman emperor, I know you own half the map and could destroy us next turn if you want but... pay us 5000 gold or we declare war
@@Duke_of_Lorraine
Stronger you are, more hated you are. And it would not be funny and too easy if other factions would shit on their pants and just wait you to declare war on them when you're ready to attack them... It's a game after all, too much accuracy would only make the game pointless when you reach some power.
Duke of Lorraine lol this is legit
The sassanids are fucking annoying when playing as the ERE. They constantly start wars with me and I have to keep wasting my time I want to spend absorbing europe, fighting and slaughtering their people.
@@salviniusaugustus6567 Games like Eu4 deal with this problem in a slightly more believable way, by making it possible for a single faction to rule only so much territory at peak efficiency (due to "state limit") while the rest are territories. Taking land too quickly will cause people to hate you and form coalitions against you (like historical ones against Rev. France), and many actions are tied to "monarch points" which are produced by the ruler and hired advisors (one allowed for each type) .
Legend there's something wrong with the recording around 0:47 your line is broken.
"(...) you need to dedicate ATWZXWHY Norsca in my opinion (...)"
no its not?
@@rebelfriend1818 Yes there is
@@rebelfriend1818 Maybe your brain lag overlapped with the broken parts of the video.
@@rebelfriend1818 it's a few seconds earlier, like 0:40
Also, NEVER kill Attila with agents except if you got the "just a man" advice. If you defeat Attila one battle per turn and let him run you will have him too close for the next victories and the last killing. If you use agents you will deal with the elite hunic armies for more turns (because attila is not avaliable to hit him in battles while hurt) and you must find Attila through the map again while you deal with their armies.
I'm currently playing Attila as the Geats, I managed to raze most of Roman territories in France and northern Italy (even went as far as to raze Rome itself) after they betray me, while still being in wat with Romans I managed to make 4 doom stacks and started hunting Huns in the balkans like there was no tomorrow, after like 10 or so hordes and 3 encounters with Attila I finally get the event in which he died, I'm currently tracking and hunting down the rest of the hordes and I can finally proudly call myself "THE HORDE SLAYER, KILLER OF ATTILA AND TERROR OF ROME"
easy or normal mode?
@@dwizzle2132 could be hard. If you get numerical superiority (with top notch troops) is not that hard to win a battle.
Having to deal with sassanid empire to the east , the hunnic hoards from the North, and trying to prop up (or just take) the West is why I personally love eastern Roman empire playthroughs in Attila. Its campaigns like that why Attila is my favorite total war.
I’ve lost many a total war campaign drowning in a sea of Hunnic cavalry.
Winning strategy? Tagmata and defensive circle with spears (at least lanciarii senores) in defensive testudo
@@amp8295 Lol agreed. If they attacked me in the field, I'd just sit in a corner of the map with spears in the testudo and archers behind them. Though they are easier to deal with during settlement battles
@@ieuanjones7615 What difficulty are you playing?
I've found forts to be... kind of effective. Although still not that effective against their heavy onagers... Especially if your faction can't field them without capturing them.
Pro strat for dealing with the huns = play as the huns.
You almost never have the troops to play as they do.
Top 5 most cost effective units in total war
One of the winners has to be dismounted feudal knights.
Yari ashigaru
Yari ashigaru number 1 by a country mile
Peasants, hordes of Peasants.
Specifically, Oda Yari Ashigaru
Top 5 overhaul mods.
I though the hardest faction to deal with is "legend of totalwar". I mean comeon, every single title of total war, this faction conquer the whole map before early game finishes.... How is one suppose to beat this faction with all the cheese, save scum, glitches, teleports that is bestowed to this faction? Absolutely undefeatable! Does anyone have any experience with beating the "legend of totalwar" faction? Please help!
If you're playing Rome 1 use PoM, that should work
Might have to ask CA
There is one strategy I've seen that makes dealing with Hunnic armies a little more manageable, and it's actually very similar to the strategy you used for the Mongols in Medieval II: using the defensive stance for an army creates something much like Medieval II's forts, and in that fort you pack the best siege equipment you have, usually giant onagers. When the battle begins, position whatever regular troops you've got defensively at the encampment's entrances and use the onagers to hammer away at the Huns' general from the safety of your fort.
Love the feeling of the Campaign in Attila, it really feels like the end of the world.
Way to defeat Mongols: Just play as Spain and run away to the New World(or just wait for the HRE and Russia to defeat them
Rajputs in Broken Crescent mod of Medieval 2. I was playing as Cilician Armenia and when I reached India, all other lands were already conquered, but I couldn't fight against their elephants without elephants. It took quite much time to find the proper tactics, create armies of horsemen with javelines and finally defeat them. I actually don't use javeline units, that's why first I couldn't do anything against them. The difficulty was also BC-s regional recruitment system. You can recruit units only from their historical regions. Most part of my armies that faced with Rajputs in the beginning were Arabic, Afghani and other mercenaries. generally much weaker than my original troops.
Top 5 best looking fractions
2/1 best fraction
10/1 my man.
I'm love me a good 4/7. Just look at that glorious fraction
I prefer 4/20
I find 9/11 is quite pleasing to look at.
Not even an honourable mention for the Timurids?
Corey Graham much worse than the mongols.
Elephants in a medieval game yep you are fuckedd
nah, not counting them when i'm close to winning the campaign before they arrive.
The Tumurids were a nightmare, it was scary when I saw them expand westwards like a schadow covering the worldmap. I was glad I was safe on the British Isles and Americas XD
Top 5 best features added to Total War (and maybe a follow up about the top 5 worst features).
Top 5 innovations in Total War sounds great!
Merchants would obviously be number one on his list.
For a serious answer though, I think most experienced Total War players resent how much customization was taken away from the games starting with Empire TW. Rome 1 and Medieval 2 had great modding tools and options for custom battles. I was so disappointed when I tried a custom battle in Empire for the first time and saw how limited my options were. Really soured my experience of the game.
Realm Divide as a lategame challenge mechanic instead of Huns/Mongols/Chaos. Because it actually gives you play around features that don't focus on cheesing or just besting an unending horde of baddies (once you know about it of course. I think everyone ot heir ass smacked by their first Shogun 2 run)
“Let’s get down to business, to defeat…the huns!”
top 5 legend's favorite units
i agree with this list. huns are straight up broken
I have found the perfect strategy against the Mongols in Medieval II: I modded the game so they never spawn. Works like a charm.
I always found the timurids way more of a challenge than the mongols when i played against them.
Yeah I'm surprised they're not ahead of the Mongols on the list. The only reason I can think of is that they show up so late you can pretty much dominate the map by then.
There are less of them but those elephants...
@@CentreSwift yeah, but that means that they will most likely not wipe you out, but they will be still hard to deal with. Mongolians can be beaten by conventional tactics. But against the timurids you can just go "total war" and spam high tier armies with lots of cannons and pray. (Seriously. I never found a satisfying way to deal with those elephants besides throwing entire armies against them)
@@paulenan9636 I found getting lucky with a stack without 🐘 helps when spamming heavy horse archers and a general, group them in a 'ball' and run around until the ammo is gone then run (or charge if they're weak) and you've killed most of them without taking much damage.
While there are 🐘 it sucks but I just overwhelmed them with more horse archers focusing on non-🐘 first as the 🐘 soak up arrows. Without horse archers I would just prey in a citadel with spears archers and a catapult or 2. :)
@@CentreSwift well, honestly, without Elefants you can do whatever, cause now you have a normal Mongolian-like invasion to deal with. The problem is the elefant-part of the army. That is usually the reason i spam armies. To kill every last elefant, so I can finally deal with the rest by conventional means.
Did they change how Chaos worked in Warhammer 2? In Warhammer 1 I remember them constantly spawning as long as one Chaos stack is left alive. You have to kill Archaon and then wipe out all armies to stop chaos from coming back.
Same I'm pretty sure that's how it works still in Warhammer 2. You have to kill (have currently recovering from wounds) Archaeon. Then eliminate EVERY chaos stack. Or they keep spawning armies.
I think you do not have to wipe them out, you just have to keep them in the north of Kislev. Which is not that hard with the regular warrior of chaos armies, but an absolute mess with the warherds of chaos
@@paulenan9636 In most of my campaigns I find that Kislev tends to unzip it's pants and give Chaos and Norsca a reason to call them daddy.
@@hohhoch3617 huh. In my playthroughs they get thouroughly dicked by the Norse first and then wiped out by chaos. Every time.
In Mortal Empires Warriors of Chaos is a tribal faction like a Beastmen. So for defeating WoC you should eliminate all their hordes(include Archaon, ofc). After WoC is defeated Chaos Invasions stops. Spawning doomstacks - they are another factions - Servants of Chaos and Slaves of Chaos.
I fought the Mongols when I was using my third ruler, I were playing as Holy Roman Empire and had more soldiers than them, but thease soldiers were spread throught all my territories and I could only take a small fraction of them to fight the Mongols. That were rough, my heir had a really bad time trying just to hold them and stop the advance of their troops, and when my king arrived with his special army (a lot of my best knights trained for years only for this battle) he quickliy died with the attack of a canon (I had very bad luck) and his army lost his moral and were compleetly raped. So I had to fight only with my previous heir (the new king now) and his weaker army... No joke, I am sure they had 10x my number of soldiers, at least... But I managed it, I used some type of Blitzkrieg, I attacked one flank of their army, where there were generals more separetad from all the other generals, and than the other flank, and the other... with time I were able to weak them so much that my new king could kill them all on a last battle. Sadly he died after that, for his age, but he wasn't the last king's son anyway, probably even older than him. In the end I won and lost only one city (a city that I basically left behind in order to have time ro organize my troops), but that were rough.
That were rough body.
top 5 reasons to enable vsync
no
Top 5 favourite Total War features
Renaming cities to their Roman equivalent.
"Join War Againts" + "Payment"
"Psst. Wanna buy some map information?"
Watchtowers
"Chaos is not hard to deal with"
when the game first launched they were a nightmare, but ironically CA completely nerfed Chaos by putting the Beastmen into the game. Beastmen aren't that hard to fight, but they work on the exact same mechanic as chaos (destroy cities to gain resources to buy troops) and they get their start much, much earlier than chaos. in the playthroughs i've done since the beastmen launched, they've generally swallowed half of what chaos would have by the time chaos shows up, which means chaos isn't as strong as the would be. The second part of my tactic for chaos (I played vamp counts) was to take over and fortify enough regions to keep a good bank, then raze an entire line of provences as a breakwater. between doing that, and the beastmen, chaos simply cannot fund itself into being a threat. it's armies are still really strong, but instead of dealing with 12 of them you're dealing with 6 at best, and you can bait them into traps where you can easily start killing them.
chaos went from a nightmare to almost a joke.
That tactic also works with creating rebels and buffer regions in shogun 2.
I recently had a pretty convincing success against the Chaos by employing agents to Block Army their doomstacks, when you do that their armies disperse and are not close enough to support each other and you can pick them one by one via auto-combat by bringing 2 or 3 armies. You can even bait them, if you have two Chaos stacks next to each other, block one of the stacks, leave one of your armies a 70-80% marching distance from the other and when their turn comes, the Chaos army that's not blocked will attack your army but then you can withdraw and on the next turn attack the isolated army with two armies of your own and just auto. 1v1 auto-combat rates you pretty poorly, however two armies vs a chaos stack can outright destroy it with losing only like 10-15% of the troops, that can be replenished in a turn or two.
I'm liking this video for no other reason than the fact that you quickly just started the countdown. No dumb intro. No logo showcasing. No nonsense. Just getting right to the reason we all clicked.
Thank you.
@6:20 "There's not much more to say about the Dwarfs; bit of a short one"
Ba-dum-tish!
I got to say that strategy for dealing with the Mongols by luring them into forts then assaulting them, thereby negating their excessively ridiculous advantages on open ground is inspired and brilliant. I'm definitely going to try that next to round and I'll probably try something similar in a couple other TW games just to see if it works in slightly different circumstances.
I don't care what the video is about. The thumbnail brought me here regardless.
Nice to see lists like these where the maker actually has good knowledge and experience of the subject.
The huns are insane man
Damn son... that guy in the thumbnail just got back from killing an entire army by himself.
I’ll never forget when playing the HRE in medieval 2 I came across the mongols who had all of Anatolia down to Egypt and I couldn’t hold any settlement for long and just when I broke through...the tumurids or however tf you spell it showed up
My game basically became Warhammer lol, 5 generations of Emperors holding Thorn against a never ending horde of Timurids. I gave multiple Polish territories to Papal States to act as a buffer between me and the Timurids. The Mongols have taken over the entirety of the Middle East.
Timurids
0:33 wtf happened . dodgy cut?
hmm thats wierd. Shouldn't be a cut there.
@@LegendofTotalWar I think it might be on YT's side because it happened to me at 0:37 and 0:42.
Idk if it's just me, but there's also the annoying tearing line towards the bottom of the screen.
@@HighlanderJosh yup. tearing is there. i think that just his hardware not keeping up with scrolling
happens to me at 0:35 and 0:42
Honorable mentions
Late game Egypt (Rome 1)
SPQR (their armies need serious effort to defeat)
playing orcs get declared war on by dwarfs -restarts game-
Playing the orcs you should defeat Dwarfs ASAP. Unless this is done, you chances to survive are minimal.
It's almost like they're mortal enemies or something. Lol
For the huns in attilla, just bring a few catapults and good units for defense, and when your gonna be fighting the huns build a fort. It makes it a lot easier.
But as far as the most difficult faction to beat in a total war, in my opinion it would be the Hojo in shogun 1. Because if you don't deal with them in the early game, they will spam castles and armies. It is a slog to get threw all of it. If you start on the other side of the map, your screwed. Oh yeah did I forget to mention that they have several geishas and assassins? It also doesn't help that the ai in shogun 1 is actually decent and wont easily be cheesed. And that unit control in shogun 1 is garbage (and you cant choose how your troops are deployed while attacking in a field battle).
I don’t know if difficult but the Maratha Confederacy blitz the map in empire and it’s very tedious to bring them down
@Claystead Yes I've seen the same Maratha's and Poland tend to dominate Empire
ATK Productions Prussia does to
Are you by any chance playing darthmod?...
I think of Maratha as T-Series. Comes out of nowhere
The Mongols should be higher up in my opinion, also the Timurids should be there. But one of the most annoying factions that I encountered in a Total War game were those desert people who live in the south in the Lord of the Rings mod in MTWII. They just spam units and walking to their cities takes ages because they're basically at the edge of the map.
You mean the Haradrim, they're pretty strong I must say. Especially in my Dol Amroth campaign, where you don't have access to particularly good archers and you can't exploit their low armour stats, in melee they tend to go toe to toe with your heavy infantry because of their extremely high attack stats, the best strategy I found was to pin them down with militia units and cycle charge/shoot them in the back, granted you're gonna lose a lot of units.
@@scorpion5574 Yeah those are the ones. It's so annoying because when you've killed them they just spam a couple more doomstacks your way. I don't know if this is true but they seemed to move their doomstacks trough the desert much faster than I could get to their cities too.
@@defendkebab797 Oh yeah that's the last stand script, It's pretty annoying. Idk what faction you're playing but generally archers and javelines are their main weaknesses, if they have Oliphaunts with them don't be afraid, those things just melt down against javelin fire, personally I find the Orcs of the misty mountains more annoying, they're literally everywhere and won't stop sending full stacks of trash at me
Top 5 largest Fractions in provinces
Dwarves: "Not much to say here, a bit of a short one." That's racist.
It’s a grudge
@@GrumbakiThat's going in the book...
Actually another piece for why they’re difficult to deal with: if you do anything to any of their allies, they hate you for the rest of the game and diplomacy is absolutely impossible
I like how you describe the Huns like Robert Baratheon explaining dothraki To Cersei
Top 5 most historically accurate Warhammer factions.
the least historically accurate would be skaven, because they don’t exist.
Top 5 ships of the line in Rome: Total War
Little sad to see no gunpowder age discussion but informative none the less. Glad I found this channel
Thumbnail: that's just me when I don't have a shield in mount and blade
"See ya next time fuckers" is probably the most geniuene thing i've heard in a youtube video that's been recorded. Thank you, you got a subscriber sir !
Top 5 most fun factions to play as in Total War
Another difficult things about the Huns is when they offer you peace, sometimes with money. You want to stop fighting them, but you don't want to hurt relations with your other allies.
Legend I think the audio is a bit messed up.
Yeah
Mongols usually end up wiping themselves out trying to meat-grinder their way through my settlements. I'll never forget the first great seige of Antioch where 5 Mongol doomstacks died to my English Spearmen and Longbowmen in a single battle. They took the city in the next go immediately after but by the end of that they had maybe 1/3rd of their forces left and I had plenty of reinforcements waiting.
Happy Serbian New Year!!!
Wish you good luck in a new year!!!!
Serbian new year? Is that like chinese new year?
Eddie Must No, just a little late : )
@@milfredcummings717 Serbs celebrates New Year at 13-14 January meanwhile rest of the world celebrates it at 31 December-1 January...We use Julian calender so as Makedonians, Bulgarians(i think) and Russians(i think)...it`s also called Ortodox New Year..
I know Dejan, I am Croat. Happy New Year!
Weirdly enough, the Huns have always been nice to my faction in TW:Attila. Even during my two games as Eastern Rome, he was willing (and did) to commit political marriages. I've gotten so used to it that whenever I play Attila, I welcome the arrival of Attila, since it means I've now gotten my roaming attack dog/rear guard.
I tried to battle Attila with 2 full stack generals and he wiped my whole army with his cavalry. The huns are a pain
@Claystead is it guaranteed to work because Attila has fucked 3 of my games as eastern Roman Empire and the sassanids appear to help him too. But thanks I will try it
Rome: Total war 1: the egyptians are impossible because they never run out of troops and have constantly full armies in the late game
Top 5 hardest factions to play
I freakin love the short intro tho. Normally you would skip about 2-5 minutes for an "intro" to start of the video.
top 5 hardest total war starts
Tokugawa in TW:S2.
You start at war with the Oda, who are the strongest clan early game, your starting province isn't great (even though it's not bad) your clan Traits are completely useless and you start as Vassal, meaning you cant declare Wars, can't allie with other clans, lose a big portion of your money every turn and the Imagawa (clan you're vassal of) can drag you into multiple wars with pretty strong clans.
Furthermore, your special unit isn't that good
Hattori and Uesugi are even worse. With the Tokugawa, all you need to do is bribe the Oda army (doesn't work on legendary iirc) or wipe it out in the first turn. Then you march to Owari (one of the richest provinces in the game) and take it. Then you put your Metsuke in Owari and replenish your losses. Once you have done that, simply wait for other factions to declare war on you (you can also bait them by leaving Owari undefended). Ironically, the higher the difficulty the easier things get, since factions will be more likely to declare war on you.
Just fight all you neighboours that dare to go at war with you and expand into Kansai. By being a vassal, you will not have to worry about your western front, since the Imagawa usually don't go at war with the Hojo and the Takeda (their only neighbours) and they don't betray you, unless you trigger Realm Divide. If someone ever manages to get to the Imagawa territories or if some of their neighbours declares war on you and wipes them out, you'll kill two birds with one stone: you are now an independent faction and you have two more provinces to expand into.
Once your position in Japan is consolidated, just play as you would with any other faction.
For your army, just spam Ashigaru and, optional, light cavalry in the early-mid game. In the late game add some samurai tier cavalry, if you want. Never use Samurai, Warrior Monks or siege units.
That's basically how you win in legendary with the Tokugawa and, despite their shitty "bonuses", they're not particularly hard, not even at the start of your campaign.
The Hattori and the Uesugi on the other hand...
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki I agree that the Hattori are very hard too, but the Uesugi? They are not hard! The warrior monks are great and yours are better and cheaper. You can take Sados Island early and thus have a easy to defend province with a gold mine! You can allie with whatever clan gets the Hold over the Tohoku Region and thus only fight on the Takeda front! Furthermore, you get more money from trade, combine that With Sado island and you got yourself a good economy.
@@thatoneguynextdoor8794 The Usegi are one of the worst faction in the game (the third worst, to be precise: the first and the second are the Hattori and the Tokugawa respectively).
Their bonuses are crap, except for the one that increases the monk success chance, which can be put to sume use. The trade income bonus is negligible, since you make most of your trade income via sea routes, and you don't want to trade via sea, because it will make you discover more clans, and the more clans know about you the more factions are likely to declare war on you.
The boost to their warrior monks sounds good in theory, but is bad in practice. Warrior monks are among the worst units in singleplayer, because they are not cost-effective, since they take two turns to recruit, not to mention their insane upkeep cost (even when reduced by the Usegi's bonus) and all the kokus and time you have to invest in order to be able to recruit them.
The Usegi also start with a vassal, which is more of a con than it is a pro, because more clans will be able to declare war to you in the very early game.
Lastly, their starting province is shit: it is large, so it will take more times for your armies to move within it; and it also borders many other clans, which means that you will be prone to multi-front wars. And wherever you expand on Honshu, there are no easily defensible provinces you can fortify.
Infact, you'd be better off abandoning Echigo entirely and going for Sado (whose proximity to Echigo is the only thing that saves the Usegi from being utter shit and having the worst start). Once you take Sado, you should conquer the Mogami and the Date and then expand to western Japan.
Thus, I would dare to say that if a clan has so many flaws and it forces you to expand in such an unnatural way to be played effectively, one would not go out on a limb saying that it is one of the worst and most difficult factions to play.
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki Warrior monks aren't worth it? Then your experience is pretty different to mine. You can't make Full-Stacks of them but in my opinion they are great nonetheless. Bow warrior monks are easily the best ranged unit for every clan except the Chosokabe, for them it's the Daikyu-Samurai. Bow warrior monks have great reload and accuracy skills. Naginata warrior monks aren't bad either, since they are good in melee and have that ability (forgot its name) that weakens morale of nearby enemies.
While it's true that it's a long way to warrior monks, and an expensive upkeep, it's not true that they don't pay off.
Yes, your starting province is a big pain in the A**, and yes, the uesugi are one of the harder clans, but I would definitely not place them amongst the 3 worst.
In Rome II: Total War, I would say the Desert Kingdoms are the hardest challenge after they have gained access to their best units. Particularly Kush with their 20 armor penetration damage high tier infantry, and Masaesyli with their Numidian Noble Cavalry and Desert Legionnaires. Nabatea and Saba are also not to be underestimated. All this especially if you are using Better AI Recruitment and More Aggressive AI mods together like I currently am. Nabatea and Masaesyli are my favorite factions now, and I use an All Factions Auxilia mod to gain access to Kush's insanely high damage infantry.
I don't even use Sebidee's unit mods or any unit mods now, just Auxiliaries. The game is complete with just that, in my opinion
Sadly, the AI in Rome 2 is stupid and ends up making full stack armies of slave infantry instead of making decent armies. Mods fix it, mostly, but it's still silly
Dwarves > Greenskins? Wtf?
In my experience orks win over dwarves(as well as 80% of the AI factions in the "old world") in almost every game and they have fcking Waaagh mechanic, which allows them to spawn full army with no upkeep needed, which follows their main army. And they get top 3(mostly right after me and my buddies if we play co-op. Or after me and Lothern if it is single player) by strength rating every campaign i play unless they have very big unlucky disaster during first 10 to 15 turns.
PS: i'm talking AI vs AI, and AI vs Player difficulty, not PvP
How come gnomes are better and greenskins aren't even there, Legend? I was sure #1 will be orks when i saw #2.
Vito Rossi exactly the same for me. Green skins are always the major threat in my game and easily spread over the whole map
I completely disagree, in all my campaigns the Dwarves win over the Greenskins handily or at least to a standstill. The dwarves almost never get eliminated by the AI in my games.
Hayden Fowler I’m inclined to agree with you. Every single ME campaign I have played that is not vampires or green skins, (where I attack early), the dwarf faction(s) rule half the world in the late game and become the final enemy to face. Most prevalent when I’ve played the dark / high elves, where I have to attack multiple points so the AI’s armies don’t all turn up at one point. I have only once seen the green skins last past turn 100-150 because chaos was attacking and the dwarf armies turned to fight them. The orcs still died out by turn 200.
@@haydenfowler8297 Are we talkig WH2? Are we talking Old World Campaign? Are we talking highest difficulties? Because u r the first one(excluding Legend) to say(to me) AI dwarwes have some kind of a chance against orks. In my experience EVERY dwarven faction is dead by turn 80 and their territories belong to orcs. And i'm not even exaggerating.Also orcs LOVE to confederate other orcish tribes more often than dwfs
@@vitorossi7839 I'm talking both and on all difficulties, the dwarves almost always conquer the whole badlands on my games. The only time they don't is when I attack them first , but if it's just them vs the ai they always win in my experience.
Destroy the papal state in medieval II is hard too because you have to kill all the priest or destroy all the catholic factions .
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I'll never forget my first WH2 play, standard boring Empire. I had taken all the lowlands all the way to the eastern mountains (including the Vampire lands), and had allied with the Dwarves. Now it was getting to be "that time" (Chaos time!) in the Campaign so I was being a bad ally, not helping the Dwarves...they had gotten pushed back to a SINGLE settlement by I think it was a confederation of the Greenskins...upon defeating the majority of my Chaos foes, I went to check on the weee Dwarves, expecting they were still turtled up in their last camp...They had rallied and pushed back the Greenskin confederation to almost the entire southern edge of the map LOL
@LegendofTotalWar
There is something messed up with the Norsca part. I think you also forgot to mention that Norsca is the cheesiest faction ever made: chariot and mammoth spam are very annoying to fight against. I would have agreed with you about the dwarves until 3 months ago, but since the Vampire Coast release, they get destroyed pretty consistently by the Greenskins. I totally agree about the Huns. I think they are also affected by a bug that doesn't register when you kill Attila, so you actually have to wait until he dies of old age. Also: why are there no Timurids on this list? Aren't they the real ultimate enemy in medieval 2?
I thought it was intentional for him to basically work as a hero (only getting wounded when you kill him).
Yes, but theoretically that should only happen 3 times and the fourth (or even the third) you should be able to kill him for good and put an end to the Hun threat. However in my campaign I killed him in battle at least 5 to 6 times. By that I don't mean that I defeated the army, I mean that I actually focused his unit, surrounded it and leave no survivors among his bodyguards
Also, here's the thing with the Huns.
If you're playing as a Roman faction, it's actually easier to to defeat the Huns. Here's the reason. The Romans (particularly the Western Romans) have the best ability to withstand their missile units because certain troops have a 100% block rate when they go into a stationary testudo. If their missiles are withstood, they become pretty weak after that. You also must position your troops in a circular or semi-circular form when fighting them on the battle field-- even better if you can position yourself at the edge of the map. When fighting in a settlement or city, you simply block off the choke points into the center. This even works when you've got two full stacks against you and your garrisons are beefed up at the choke-point settlements (if you play the Roman factions correctly, consolidating your empire into a bottle-necked version of itself where only certain settlements can be attacked, and beefing up your garrisons in those).
I disagree with your point on complete annihilation in battle. While it's true if they aren't annihilated in battle and instead recruit crap mercenaries, they also recruit more of their own units again anyway, and in the process, their remnants will continue to attack you even afterward. If you annihilate them, yes, they'll respawn, but they'll respawn waaaaaaay far away in the east where they'll have to fight their way back to get to you again, as opposed to simply recruiting on the spot when they're right next door to you after being defeated, and also causing your garrison or army that just fought them the inability to replenish. But still, I see what you're saying concerning your strategy; I think your strategy would work very well! Just in my own experience, though, I find my strategy very efficient.
Cheers for this list!
at 0:36 and 0:42 the sound skips a bit
"Not much more to say about the dwarfs ... bit of a short one."
I see what you did there. :P
Top 5 worst elite units across all TW games :D! So in other words the worst of the best units you can get for a faction.
Protectores Domistici
Hattori Bandits.
They need multiple buildings to be recruited, that you have to research and stuff, but they even lose a 1v1 with Yumi Ashigaru (Bow militia) both in ranged and melee combat
@@thatoneguynextdoor8794 Hattori Bandits have pretty fantastic stealth abilities paired with a full-range bow and improved accuracy, so yes a saw is better at cutting through a block of wood than a scalpel but that doesn't say anything about the value of a scalpel as a tool. I'd also argue that the bandits aren't elite so much as a faction-unique side-grade (as opposed to upgrade). Notably, their recruitment cost and upkeep are the same as said Yumi Ashigaru. Plus they can totally cheese out the AI, it's pretty funny.
Against the Mongols, the trick was to find and choose battlefields with suitable high ground, then use a couple of sacrifice units to keep them busy, while the rest of your troops rain down death upon them from high ground, target their generals, then they just melt away after that, ensure you have a good general with you while you do this. I've melted several Mongol Armies with this strategy, just make sure you have reinforcements nearby to resupply your Army, when more of their Armies come to attack you. This was a really easy cheap method to bring their invasion to a halt. Just make sure to use spies to be aware of their movements so you don't put yourself in a terrible situation, and so you can pick the best battlefield for this strategy, usually on steep hills with limited access, which creates natural choke points and areas where their Armies get held up against your sacrifice units. Make sure your sacrifice units have high shield and health values and maximum morale to last as long as possible. This method is very effective if you know what you are doing. Makes the Mongols seem easy after a while. Use units with maximum missile damage, and don't be afraid to have at least 2 trebuchets to help kill their generals and 2 cavalry units to finish them off and cause maximum damage
Well atleast its historically accurate that the hunns are so OP they pretty much changed Europe directly and indirectly through force and intimidation. Btw Total War Attila is the best game because the game hates you.
No they didn't. Did everyone forget Atilla himself was driven off by the Western Romans and Visigoths at the Battle of Chalons and neither the Huns or Mongols ever came back? The furthest west the Mongols went was the edges of Eastern Europe, where they were beaten back and driven off. The Huns never came back to Europe either, and the alliances that were formed to combat Atilla fell apart rather quickly and things returned to normal. The impact Atilla had was that there were more dead people and burned villages than normal.
Strat for the Mongols in Medieval 2
Step 1: Get trusty Citadel on their warpath (I used Thorn in Poland)
Step 2: Put your best general there
Step 3: Buckle up
Step 4: Fight like 30 battles at said Citadel
Also bar none the most annoying factions to defeat are the horde factions in Barbarian Invasion. (I had the hardest time tracking down the Roxoloni) because you have to literally kill every last one of them. It's so shitty
5 most under/overrated mods for TW
Overrated:
1) England (M2TW)
2) Greece (Rome I)
3) Sparta (Rome I)
4) Prussia (Empire)
5) Macedon (Rome II)
Underrated:
1) Sendai (FoTS)
2) Parthia (Rome I)
3) Egypt (Rome I)
4) Egypt (M2TW)
5) Milan (M2TW)
totally agree.
Another advantage of the huns is their catapults which are like very accurate massive machine guns. Thankfully they only get 2 per stack but if you are facing a siege against 3 of their stacks, good luck.
Top 5 stupid exploits
Medieval II once you have cannon towers, against the Timurids. Sally out when they besiege you, but stay behind your walls, behind your towers. Your towers will shoot at their troops for an hour while they don't move.
Top 5 underrated units would be nice to see.
I agree on Atilla too, got lucky to get an alliance with the Huns on my Franks campaign, we've been best friends ever since destroying Romans together and all that. :)
Liking my own comment to get the ball rolling
I surrounded Attila with two full stack Roman Legions as he was retreating away after destroying his last army. He hid in a forest with his one remaining cavalry unit and all i simply had to do was tighten the noose until he had nowhere to go.
The Huns were finished that day and the world became Rome’s for the taking!
The worst part about dealing with the Dawi is that they seem to be programmed to hole up in their stupid holds whenever they feel even slightly threatened. And it's even worse if you're playing as Vampire Counts/Coast cause you have to deal with that fucking untainted attrition.
Norsca is gangsta until the wandering crocodile appears in Albion
Its amusing that in Attila all ranged units can basically just rapid fire laser beams, they dont even have to light the damn arrows
Usually I'd say list vids are lazy and stupid but yours are always going to be filled with great expertise. I think it's a concise way to flex your muscles without having to show a super long campaign. Good vid!
Top 5 most difficult historical battles
Imo hardest part of Timurids and Mongols is just how many troops they can muster, it's problem with the other factions but it's just the most thorny for them. I was playing HRE and i spent like 5 generations of Emperors just trying to fight off the Timurids, they weren't killed in battle or assassinated, they died of old age after fighting Timurids for so long. I ended up naming the fortress they defended Cadia because of how many people in that blasted place have spent their whole lives fighting off Timurids.
Plus i think they ran out of elephants so i just resorted to using guns and crossbows to beat the hell out of their horse archers.
I don't know if you're able to answer this question but let's go. "Top 5 soundtracks in Total War."
I sure can. I'd like to do this one sometime. It's probably not going to be top comment this time because its usually one of the first comments that make it. We'll try get this one through soon though
@@LegendofTotalWar Kick ass man, don't worry, i can sit back and watch the other suggestions since they are also great. +
One thing any TW player should've learned from Attila and onwards to Warhammer is to make the very best possible use of heroes. I'd be beating the Huns on auto after my 3 captains have done a tremendous job reducing every stack to about a third of its strenghth, then you go in with 2 full stacks (as WRE), having maintained peace for as long as humanly possible beforehand.
As for Mongols, try them on the Stainless Steel 6.4 mod (Late Era) where Byzantium, if it gets the flying start it is capable of, can actually build up armies fully capable of defeating the Mongols 1 on 1 or 2 on 2, sometimes even 1 on 2. Nevertheless, the Mongols are even stronger there with their units and they start with dozens of stacks, the fighting is quite simply monumental, the prize is Caucusus, Middle East and Persia.
This was helpful. I have a campaign as the Ostrogoths, I was able to beat back the first wave of Huns with a coalition of allies in Greece and the Balkans, which is where I settled. The coalition made a nice buffer between me and the Huns. I then made peace. The second wave came, getting rid of a few of the buffer zone states - I let my allies lose territory rather than fight the Huns myself. Now I’ve watched this vid, I’m convinced I’ve made the right decision, I don’t want that smoke! That said it would be nice to expel the Huns, but I think I’d prefer to go on a ‘crusade’ to Cyprus and Jerusalem rather than fighting the Huns if they are that difficult to deal with